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OS Roundtable: How You Feeling About MLB The Show 20 Right Now?

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OS Roundtable: How You Feeling About MLB The Show 20 Right Now?

OS Roundtable: After the reveal trailer and the livestream schedule being announced, how are you feeling about MLB The Show 20 at this moment?

Elliott Jenkins: I am very curious to see how the on-field changes and updates to franchise mode play out. It looks like San Diego Studio is taking fan feedback into consideration for this year, and I am very excited to see how different the gameplay feels. After years of the opposite, I am going to pass on Diamond Dynasty completely this year, and I am not interested in March to October.

Buried in the livestream schedule are two very interesting updates for me: franchise team editing and full minors rosters. To me, MLB The Show isn’t truly “released” until the first batch of OSFM rosters are ready, so I wonder how fleshed out the “full” minors will actually be. It could be a game changer. Being able to change team names and relocate franchises could also add tremendous replay value if it is done correctly as well. To be honest, I was not expecting as much as I wound up getting and will definitely be checking out the streams. I wrote about my love for MVP Baseball 2005‘s Owner mode this week, so here’s to hoping The Show’s franchise mode gets back on track.

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Chris Huber: I’m cautiously optimistic, but more cautious than optimistic. Two things factor into my feelings: I’m a franchise-mode-first guy, and I buy the game every other year. The last edition I have is MLB 18 The Show, so I’m buying it anyway. As mentioned above, the two things I’m also most interested in are the full minors rosters and the editing of a team within franchise mode. While I’d love to think we’re getting named rosters in the minor leagues, I’m still concerned it may just be 10 extra spots for a Single-A team. Beyond that, even if we do get real names, it also could be just a bunch of real player names with CAP faces that are just decent looking (which is what I saw being done with major league players in MLB 18 The Show and was disappointed).

With the team editing in franchise mode, are we getting something closer to NBA 2K where you can upload images? Or are we building logos from shapes like in Diamond Dynasty? Or something in between like we’ve seen in Madden with preset cities and branding? I’m also curious to know why the stream schedule says we can relocate, change our team name and edit our logos, but there is nothing about stadiums or uniforms. I think I may know why, but I hope I’m just coming in with low expectations in that department. It would be a real shame to change your logo and then be stuck with uniforms with a different logo on them. Additionally, it would stink to relocate, only to be stuck with the same stadium.

Outside of those two things, it looks like the game is bringing a renewed focus to defense this year. I hope that will help further differentiate players from one another. I’m excited to check out the streams but am also crossing my fingers that my excitement level is maintained after seeing them.

Kevin Scott: I have to say that I’m pretty excited by what I’ve seen and heard about MLB The Show 20 so far. Considering MLB The Show 19 was already the best sports game on the market in my eyes, all signs point to the developers listening to and responding to feedback in building on what was already great. For one thing, even just the mere mention of online leagues in the livestream has me ready to pre-order. In my opinion, it was the biggest thing missing from last year’s game, so if that’s been remedied, it just became a lot harder to poke holes in the series. Yes, the livestream describes them as “simple” leagues but that could mean a lot of things. How simple are we talking here?

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  1. All good. This is a great game and I plan on spending lots of time with it after a few months off. The rebranding sounds interesting, but I think it might have some limitations right now, and that's okay. Ready for the real spring training to start and will be keeping my franchise (30 team control) updated until the game arrives. Ready to go. When all is said, this team has given us a wealth of options to make the game work. Kudos.
    I participated in the beta and some of the things I saw in the crowd (concession items), the hitting felt better even if I was not getting my timing down (I typically use a custom camera aimed more lower in the strikezone) and the announcement of franchise rebranding have me over the moon though I want more details before I preorder for sure. I love the 2k-badge approach for RTTS which I'm hoping can translate over to Franchise so I know what kinda hitter I'm dealing with though I'm 7 years in at this point.
    I'm looking forward to seeing the gameplay changes in the finished product. Also intrigued by the Full Minor League Rosters tidbit and what that holds in store.
    Also curious to see how in depth the rebranding of teams is inside franchise mode and what all in entails. Not something I'm personally excited about, but curious nevertheless to see what all is involved, and really glad that it appears to be a step in the right direction for many in the community who were looking for this level of customization.
    It's too early to determine whether I buy MLB 20 or pass on it. To base the decision on a trailer is just wrong. I need to wait to see what is said in the various developer streams. Historically I was a "Season" Manage Only player and have bought the game every year since MLB 2012. Now I have zero interest in DD and could care less about hot dog sales and/or creating a new fictional stadium after relocating some current MLB organization to Timbuktu. With that said, two years ago I got into RTTS, so my ultimate decision on "buy MLB 20" or "do not buy" will be based on what sort of changes were made to RTTS this year. If the only changes are new perks and/or the ability to play high school or college games for your RTTS player, I will pass since I am not planning on starting any new RTTS players. I have a new'ish RTTS player who was recently called up to the major league and at least for now he is the starting SS (on a bad team), so I plan on continuing using him for my RTTS games.
    Not excited and will most likely stick with 19 to get my Baseball fix. It looks like a lot of "CAN CAN" animations again for fielding and  what is going on in the dugout. For those who don't know what that means is that every team will most likely have the same celebration animations and fielding error animations. For example in MLB 19 every error in the infield is played the same way with the confused step forward animation.  I wonder if they will finally have a High Five animation for when  a run is scored or a key hit or defensive play is made. It's been 20 years LOL oh well by now! People who buy 2020 without playing any previous versions will be really excited about the game.
    pretty excited, almost to the point of indecency. I think I might love 20, enough so I'd consider marrying it, just dont want to be jilted at the altar come mid-March. I'd get it a diamond but it already has plenty lol
    I feel extremely optimistic. I've been wanting them to bring the Diamond Dynasty team creator over to franchise for a while. I'm anxious to find out how stadiums will work with rebranding and of course see what the mysterious "full minor league rosters" entails. I also hope they worked on some small things like more realistic salary requests, more trade slots, better trade logic, etc. Overall, I'm just happy they still care about us franchise guys. I finally get to be a little creative on a baseball game which is something I've been craving since the MVP series ended. I know the gameplay's gonna be top notch, so any additional features are huge wins in my book. It's gonna be a fun summer!
    As far as franchise goes. same stuff different year. with a roster update, but it looks like this year could be different finally! as for as minors go
    having said that usually this time of year I am exciting because we just see another boring patriots super bowl.. right now my attention is on the super bowl with my team being in it so my excitement might change after that this year
    I'm feeling both excited and curious about the game.
    I'm excited about full minor leagues and rebranding/relocation, but curious about how it is implemented. My best guess would be the Diamond Dynasty create a team system is now in Franchise. I just don't know about how in depth it all will be and what your home stadium is after relocation.
    I honestly believe relocation is being added in stages. The first stage was simple team rebranding which is being added this year. The next stage would be Create a Stadium to make the feature complete. Maybe we'll see Create a Stadium on Next Gen hardware in The Show 21.
    So I’m one of those suckers who ... gives 2K, EA bad SECA my $60 for football, baseball and basketball every season. With the show ... I’ve always taken that first day off of work/school for damn near two decades now. It’s my little holiday and I just enjoy it every single time. We are all expecting BIG things for the PS5 and rightfully so ... in the meantime ... I will enjoy the last game on the current gen consoles
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    I just finished a game with 19. The game is simply awesome.
    So how am I feeling? I want to see the franchise stream. That is really the big thing for me because I am so happy with gameplay on 19.
    It really is a wait and see. But that is such a testament to how fantastic 19 has been for me.
    As a casual franchise player, '19 is more than good enough for me. Probably the only thing that would get me to purchase '20 at release would be the relocation/rebranding being touted.
    If it's up to NBA2K standards (includes realignment), I'll buy it. If it's more like Madden, I'll wait for a significant price drop, or just wait for the PS5 and next year.
    And a little off topic, but since they released the trailer, are we allowed to discuss the beta or not? Thx
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    And a little off topic, but since they released the trailer, are we allowed to discuss the beta or not? Thx

    that's a no go. but what's in the trailer is fair game. I really wish the Minute Maid Park in the trailer was the same one in the beta. :y220a:
    Armor and Sword
    I just finished a game with 19. The game is simply awesome.
    So how am I feeling? I want to see the franchise stream. That is really the big thing for me because I am so happy with gameplay on 19.
    It really is a wait and see. But that is such a testament to how fantastic 19 has been for me.
    I am really enjoying 19 again...I had gone back to 18, then I found the right settings with 19 and I'm loving it too. I feel like this game keeps getting incrementally better each year. Not a huge jump but it's enough for me. Very curious about team branding and relocation and all it entails
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    All ive wanted since MLB 10!!!! Is franchise relocation/create a team. FINALLY. Its so long overdue but thank god its finally here.
    Hopefully its implemented well, im sure it wont be poor but just hope its not shallow, like heres create a team and thats it. Either way im pleasantly optimistic for the first time in 3-4 years.
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    While I’ll probably never rebrand a team I’m happy for those excited about the addition. Now if they would implement expansion I’d be all in on that.
    I am VERY excited for full minor league rosters though. While I’ve always appreciated Ridins roster and Knights before him it was always a tough decision to start my franchise day one or wait for OSFM.
    Now hopefully I’ll be able to start day one with all prospects available.
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    In the past we have tried to do DD leagues. I am very curious to see what the new online league mode is all about.
    This could finally be what we have always tried to do.
    We would have a card draft (best part of it). And form our teams that way.
    We also played classic pitching/directional hitting. So it was as player ratings driven as it could be.
    Maybe we will have an interface that allows us to do a full on DD league with stat keeping and divisions etc.
    And we can still do our own private card draft and set up our roster rules as usual!!
    That has me excited. When you have sim minded players in a private league it makes for a good time.
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    Armor and Sword
    In the past we have tried to do DD leagues. I am very curious to see what the new online league mode is all about.
    This could finally be what we have always tried to do.
    We would have a card draft (best part of it). And form our teams that way.
    We also played classic pitching/directional hitting. So it was as player ratings driven as it could be.
    Maybe we will have an interface that allows us to do a full on DD league with stat keeping and divisions etc.
    And we can still do our own private card draft and set up our roster rules as usual!!
    That has me excited. When you have sim minded players in a private league it makes for a good time.
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    Anyway, im excited as hell about " CUSTOM LEAGUES ".. Couldnt believe my eyes. i thought for sure we wouldnt see or hear anything about leagues in general until we were well off into next gen! this is a good sign of things to come. Sony Sandiego was able to get the MLB spread the wealth with xbox and that is something we should all keep our eyes on... Maybe, just maybe the NFL sees this and gives Take-Two a call.. im also super excited about farm league players being in after ll these years. sad that the minor leagues wont exist in the next few years so i guess its a bit of an apology lol! the new mechanics were well overdue and the graphics seem to have been scaled back if you ask me... we'll see though.. 19 got a black friday purchase from me seeing that i was duped in 18 after preordering and finding out OFM had been outed so yeah, ill be waiting until some transparency is displayed before i spend.. cant waitto find out wht this mode contains.. should be better than nothing for sure!
    Armor and Sword
    In the past we have tried to do DD leagues. I am very curious to see what the new online league mode is all about.
    This could finally be what we have always tried to do.
    We would have a card draft (best part of it). And form our teams that way.
    We also played classic pitching/directional hitting. So it was as player ratings driven as it could be.
    Maybe we will have an interface that allows us to do a full on DD league with stat keeping and divisions etc.
    And we can still do our own private card draft and set up our roster rules as usual!!
    That has me excited. When you have sim minded players in a private league it makes for a good time.
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    Is this something you’re currently doing or your hopes for what could be coming?
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    For me it comes down to one thing. Injuries in MoM games. For whatever reason this has not worked the past 2 years and to be honest it having to through the transactions and manually put guys in the DL really killed alot of the fun.
    I can live with long relievers throwing 80 pitches in a blowout or dopey managerial moves by the CPU but if they don't fix the injury bug then I would probably not buy.
    I do though have great hope that with the Franchise mode changes they have made this year that this has been fixed. I'll wait and see and when someone posts that it is fixed (And they will be rest assured) then I am all in.
    Armor and Sword
    I just finished a game with 19. The game is simply awesome.
    So how am I feeling? I want to see the franchise stream. That is really the big thing for me because I am so happy with gameplay on 19.
    It really is a wait and see. But that is such a testament to how fantastic 19 has been for me.

    Once I realized how good directional hitting is, I can't put 19 down.
    Armor and Sword
    I just finished a game with 19. The game is simply awesome.
    So how am I feeling? I want to see the franchise stream. That is really the big thing for me because I am so happy with gameplay on 19.
    It really is a wait and see. But that is such a testament to how fantastic 19 has been for me.

    Completely agree, I love playing 19, I just want Franchise updates, and it looks like that's going to happen. Who are we kidding, they are getting my money day 1 regardless.
    adamj2281
    Completely agree, I love playing 19, I just want Franchise updates, and it looks like that's going to happen. Who are we kidding, they are getting my money day 1 regardless.

    Same, 100%.
    It would be nice to get the band back together for an online league. Would have to dust off the Wheelhouse Gang logo. It will be refreshing to have an outlet to play with like minded individuals who know how to play the sport instead of the savage life in DD arena.
    Also hoping the customization that they are talking about includes adjusting season length to franchise.
    Very excited! Have bought this game since Eric Chavez was on the cover. That being said, I’m hoping that the relocating of teams will also allow us to create a ballpark. Would suck to create a new team with a new logo, but have to choose a stadium that already exists with that stadiums respective logo
    duh1call3dston3s
    Very excited! Have bought this game since Eric Chavez was on the cover. That being said, I’m hoping that the relocating of teams will also allow us to create a ballpark. Would suck to create a new team with a new logo, but have to choose a stadium that already exists with that stadiums respective logo
    If there’s no create a stadium which I’m assuming there won’t be, at least for this year, it’ll probably be like Madden where you choose from a set of premade stadium options. Very unlikely we’ll have to choose from real life stadiums.
    shawn306
    For me it comes down to one thing. Injuries in MoM games. For whatever reason this has not worked the past 2 years and to be honest it having to through the transactions and manually put guys in the DL really killed alot of the fun.
    I can live with long relievers throwing 80 pitches in a blowout or dopey managerial moves by the CPU but if they don't fix the injury bug then I would probably not buy.
    I do though have great hope that with the Franchise mode changes they have made this year that this has been fixed. I'll wait and see and when someone posts that it is fixed (And they will be rest assured) then I am all in.

    Same with March to October, no injuries. They better step-up with MtoO this year because so far, for me, it’s a flop.
    I'd have been satisfied if the devs hadn't really done much new with MLB 20 and are instead focused on The Show 21 and delivering a truly revolutionary game on the PS5. They've actually announced quite a bit more than I was expecting.
    Jolly Roger
    I'd have been satisfied if the devs hadn't really done much new with MLB 20 and are instead focused on The Show 21 and delivering a truly revolutionary game on the PS5. They've actually announced quite a bit more than I was expecting.
    $ales finally went through the roof for Sony with 19, not only becoming SDS' best seller in the series but even surpassing the 15 year old record MVP 2004 set. according to NPD. things are only going to get better from here on out, as long as the economy stays red-hot. there is now room at the table for both Diamond Dynasty and Franchise mode. dancing days are here again.
    I pre-ordered months ago because I have gleaned 100s of hours of gameplay time from MLB 18 and 19. Even with the extra cash for the high-end pre-order edition, it is still money incredibly well-spent for me and I'll continue to support studios who produce good games (like MLB) and not support studios who produce low-quality ones (like NBA 2k and NHL).
    But I really am curious about some things with this year's title:
    Franchise: Unless it comes with full expansion/retraction options, rebranding does nothing for me. The minors thing has me intrigued a bit and depending on what it is, it could be a serious add. My bigger hopes rest on maybe SDS doing some roster logic work under the hood with the new 26 man rosters and whatever the heck this minors thing is. Anything else they do will be gravy for me.
    Gameplay: one thing....don't mess it up. Don't cater to the H2H guys; make them learn how to play the game better. If the game is as solid here as 19 was, I'll be happy. But I have to confess, their continued intrigue towards "competitive" gaming makes me nervous. Every sports game (sans Madden and only because it has a dedicated, dumbed-down mode for comp) has tanked gameplay-wise due to involvement with comp sports. This is by far the most-concerning thing for me with the series right now.
    MtO: They've hinted at more options and stuff to do in this mode. OK, great. But they also mentioned a "new reward structure". Sorry...but ugh...UNLESS this mode allows for customization of rosters and sliders (while disabling rewards). If it does have that option, this could be a great ancillary mode. If not, it's going to again be wasted (for me at least) by having it tied to rewards. Even money-hungry 2k took a step back and patched the game to allow for users to play MyGM with customized rosters and so on (while disabling the online stuff).
    DD: 18 catered heavily to offline grinding, 19 catered too heavily to the online crowd. They need to balance things. The 11th inning program offered a nice mix of stat grinding, moments, conquest, and online to allow people to progress. I'd like to see that kind of mix again. As I enjoy the mode offline only, I'd like to see that portion of the game made more interesting again (without it being the complete slog that 18 was for the online kiddies).
    Presentation: More Heidi. Nuff said. More story-telling about what is going on in your franchise in-game would be a massive step forward. I think expanding Heidi's role here could be a way of doing that (while reducing the redundancies in her lines she had in 19).
    I'm intrigued about where things could go this year and will be watching the upcoming streams very closely.
    I'm 47. I absolutely LOVE 19. It's THE GREATEST sports title I've EVER played in my tons of gaming years (from about every system ever made). I will purchase 20 on day 1. For me, it's like a movie: I don't care about the critics. If I love the genre, I'm going to go watch. Same is true with this game. I don't care about hidden eggs, player models not changing or anything else - 20 will definitely be as good as 19, and maybe a bit better. And that's good enough for me...
    My only wish: more retro ballparks and more real-life minor league ballparks. I want to be able to go back and play in older ballparks from the 80's (like old cavernous Cleveland stadium) and many others. It adds immersion to the historical files from the vault.
    I appreciate all the input here, and I read each post. But I guess maybe I'm a simpler person than most and I can't wait for 20 to arrive!
    Gameplay..if they fix cpu baserunning I’m all in. Franchise seems to be intriguing with the “ create a team location logo option”. Hoping I can customize schedule in my Franchise..
    Who am I kidding ...I already preordered and will be at my local GameStop as soon as they open on the 17th.
    I’m a sucker for this game!
    My biggest complaints about 19 all relate to the way franchise mode progresses over time. Annoyed at how scouting works. Annoyed at the draft. Annoyed at prospect generation. Annoyed at how teams fill their minor leagues with 35-year-old has beens and never weres instead of trying to develop young talent. Annoyed that developing young talent isn’t more in-depth and I can pretty much tell with 95% certainty whether a drafted prospect will ever make the big leagues.
    None of those annoyances prevent me from enjoying the game, but whether I buy 20 will probably depend on whether any of the franchise mode updates affect this sort of thing. I suspect they won’t.
    First on my list for a few years was the ability to do what has been available in DD - create your own team. The addition of that in franchise is big.
    I'm looking forward to mlbts 20
    Very positive about it, although I'm not a franchise guy as I don't have the time anymore and I know franchise has been a bit stale in years past. For the way I play, (single player, offline with current rosters for previous days games) I cant really fault what the guys do. Of the things I'd like to see, the guys seem to have addressed. For instance, for the longest time I've wanted more web gems in the outfield...and with the new ball indicator it looks like I'll be able to judge diving plays a little more easily and thus have a few more highlight reel plays. They've also again looked at how important defence is and if the ratings matter more than ever on that front then that’s a huge plus in my book. As long as the team don’t take away control options on the pitching, fielding and hitting, I see another good year of enjoyment for me.
    One thing that does need a major look at for me is base running and base running logic (and animations) but I can’t see that being addressed on the current gen
    Jeffrey Smith
    While I’ll probably never rebrand a team I’m happy for those excited about the addition. Now if they would implement expansion I’d be all in on that.
    I am VERY excited for full minor league rosters though. While I’ve always appreciated Ridins roster and Knights before him it was always a tough decision to start my franchise day one or wait for OSFM.
    Now hopefully I’ll be able to start day one with all prospects available.
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    I have trouble believing that Full Minors means they are naming all the Minor Leaguers. I bet you it means Single A Ball will be playable now. They still don't have the right to use Minor League Players in the game. I can see allot of people getting disappointed when its the same game but with expanded single A. Just make the schedule where it is Rotating every year and you don't have to play the same clubs year after year in interleague. Put injuries in to Manage Only Mode. Fix what is wrong with the game for 5 years now. I Can wait a week for the rosters, but this stuff they refuse to acknowledge like the scheduling or no injury bug is ridiculous.
    Skipped 18 and 19 in order to try my hand at OOTP. While that game is super in depth and very well developed, it's time to get back to physically crushing a ball 500 feet and watching/listening a ballpark erupt.
    I'm pretty stoked about 20...but definitely need/hope to see them add a game number option so I don't have to grind 162 games out like I did in '16...
    Ranger Fan
    I have trouble believing that Full Minors means they are naming all the Minor Leaguers. I bet you it means Single A Ball will be playable now. They still don't have the right to use Minor League Players in the game. I can see allot of people getting disappointed when its the same game but with expanded single A. Just make the schedule where it is Rotating every year and you don't have to play the same clubs year after year in interleague. Put injuries in to Manage Only Mode. Fix what is wrong with the game for 5 years now. I Can wait a week for the rosters, but this stuff they refuse to acknowledge like the scheduling or no injury bug is ridiculous.

    I can’t disagree with anything you’re saying but I’m still gonna hold out hope for the inclusion of minor league players. If they were expanding rosters why not word it that way. They know what the term Full Minors means to this community and I have to believe they know the expectations they’re raising by using that term.
    Can’t wait until confirmation in two weeks.🤞🏻
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    Jeffrey Smith
    I can’t disagree with anything you’re saying but I’m still gonna hold out hope for the inclusion of minor league players. If they were expanding rosters why not word it that way. They know what the term Full Minors means to this community and I have to believe they know the expectations they’re raising by using that term.
    Can’t wait until confirmation in two weeks.🤞🏻
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    Sales 101 my man - hopeful for full minors, expecting playable A ball with expanded rosters.
    Do we have an authentic broadcast fielding camera yet? No? Darn. Purple night skies still as well. Ah well, better than brown.
    My yearly wishlist for the past eleven years has been limited to addressing these two things, lol. Someday they'll be addressed. Maybe as we look at PS5 then there is a shot. Their one excuse for no broadcast camera is that a ball can be hit down the lines and disappear into a corner, in which case there are far too many things they can do to remedy this and I hope they realize it.
    Am I excited, though? Yes. I'd probably be regardless, though. It's in my nature to be. The problem is I don't play the game as it's designed to play, meaning if something is on or set by default, I normally go about it differently anyway, haha.
    One other thing I hope for, since I use Retro fielding cam for offense and defense, is that they add the same camera delay on offense (after contact) that every other fielding camera elicits.
    Not to be the downer of the thread or being too negative.
    My concern with all of these additions, is what is getting taken out? For the past few years they have taken features out, from Season mode to Online Franchise.
    With the additions of team re-branding. Im worried about loosing some spots for alternate uniforms and retro uni's. It took us so long to get to the point where we are at now with the amount of Uni's we do have in the game. I would hate to loose them. Whether to Nike limitations or other added features.
    I am concerned with the core of Franchise as well. With MTO getting added features and trade hub or whatever its called. I am worried about the dumbing down of the mode for the masses. I mean I know that the purpose is to get more people to play the game. That I am a dying breed of gamer is obvious and I know change is inevitable. But I would be lying if I didn't say that I had concerns.
    Again, I am not trying to be mister negative or jumping on the I hate the wave of the future. Though I do hate the trends towards micro transactions and loot crates and such. But its Capitalism. That's the way things are going to be for a time. Everything is cyclical. But I do have concerns with this Franchise as a whole moving forward.
    I am sure I will pick this up eventually. But I will certainly not pre order or pay extra to get it "EArly" (see what I did there) as I do not agree with this business practice at all. I will wait for certain folks here on OS to review gameplay and the modes. Hopefully post some video and such. But the YouTube influences and such are just garbage DD stuff that does not interest me at all. So they do not drive my purchase. If anything they detract from it.
    I love and continue to play '19. If this is my last MLB The Show for a good bit, well I could be alright with that.
    Bullit
    Not to be the downer of the thread or being too negative.
    My concern with all of these additions, is what is getting taken out? For the past few years they have taken features out, from Season mode to Online Franchise.
    With the additions of team re-branding. Im worried about loosing some spots for alternate uniforms and retro uni's. It took as so long to get to the point where we are at now with the amount of Uni's we do have in the game. I would hate to loose them. Whether to Nike limitations or added features.
    I am concerned with the core of Franchise as well. With MTO getting added features and trade hub or whatever its called. I am worried about the dumbing down of the mode for the masses. I mean I know that the purpose is to get more people to play the game. That I am a dying breed of gamer is obvious and I know change is inevitable. But I would be lying if I didn't say that I had concerns.
    Again, I am not trying to be mister negative or jumping on the I hate the wave of the future. Though I do hate the trends towards micro transactions and loot crates and such. But its Capitalism. Thats the way things are going to be for a time. Everything is cyclical. But I do have concerns with this Franchise as a whole moving forward.
    I am sure I will pick this up eventually. But I will certainly not pre order or pay extra to get it "EArly" (see what I did there) as I do not agree with this business practice at. I will wait for certain folks here on OS to review gameplay and the modes. Hopefully post some video and such. But the YouTube influences and such are just garbage DD stuff that does not interest me at all. So they do not drive my purchase. If anything they detract from it.
    I love and continue to play '19. If this is my last MLB The Show for a good bit, well I could be alright with that.
    I'm definitely going to hang on to 19 forever, even with all its warts, because it could be the last one with a franchise mode as well know it. I just see MTO becoming that feature going forward, and I don't want any part of that.
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    Blzer
    Do we have an authentic broadcast fielding camera yet? No? Darn. Purple night skies still as well. Ah well, better than brown.
    My yearly wishlist for the past eleven years has been limited to addressing these two things, lol. Someday they'll be addressed. Maybe as we look at PS5 then there is a shot. Their one excuse for no broadcast camera is that a ball can be hit down the lines and disappear into a corner, in which case there are far too many things they can do to remedy this and I hope they realize it.
    Am I excited, though? Yes. I'd probably be regardless, though. It's in my nature to be. The problem is I don't play the game as it's designed to play, meaning if something is on or set by default, I normally go about it differently anyway, haha.
    One other thing I hope for, since I use Retro fielding cam for offense and defense, is that they add the same camera delay on offense (after contact) that every other fielding camera elicits.

    As far as lighting and details on the field like grass and dirt, nothing I want has ever been implemented presentation wise lol. The game looks incredibly archaic with its dated lighting and materials.
    I too hope the PS5 can push them over the edge and allow a much better looking game.
    It looks as though franchise mode is completely neglected... again, as there's no, "new" tab for at least the second straight year. I can't say its surprising, but I just get a little bit less excited each year when franchise mode is never touched.
    I hope that they do one thing... make it so we don't lose our jersey number in Road to The Show constantly. At least do that.
    I’ll be buying game on release..but I still haven’t seen any real changes animations or gameplay.
    Outfield animations as far as catching ..sliding catch or any others really have not changed in sometime.
    Would love some “different” outcomes in that area. You almost know exactly what animation will play out when a ball is hit in a certain area of the outfield.
    Cpu engine ..logic I hope is overhauled. Sliding into home plate ..never a collision..or variance .always same slide. I never see collisions in outfield..or “tweeners “ that create havoc between incoming outfielders and outgoing infielders. Just more variations.
    Third basemen charging bunts gather ball so close to home plate and then throw backwards at a very odd angle to “second”...very strange
    Attributes for baserunning logic as far as aggressiveness on basepaths separate from base stealing.
    Also just more choppers beat off the ground that create difficulties for infielders ..
    More variety in most every outcome ...
    Franchise....I’ll take what ever they give us I guess.
    Bullit
    Not to be the downer of the thread or being too negative.
    My concern with all of these additions, is what is getting taken out? For the past few years they have taken features out, from Season mode to Online Franchise.
    With the additions of team re-branding. Im worried about loosing some spots for alternate uniforms and retro uni's. It took us so long to get to the point where we are at now with the amount of Uni's we do have in the game. I would hate to loose them. Whether to Nike limitations or other added features.
    I am concerned with the core of Franchise as well. With MTO getting added features and trade hub or whatever its called. I am worried about the dumbing down of the mode for the masses. I mean I know that the purpose is to get more people to play the game. That I am a dying breed of gamer is obvious and I know change is inevitable. But I would be lying if I didn't say that I had concerns.
    Again, I am not trying to be mister negative or jumping on the I hate the wave of the future. Though I do hate the trends towards micro transactions and loot crates and such. But its Capitalism. That's the way things are going to be for a time. Everything is cyclical. But I do have concerns with this Franchise as a whole moving forward.
    I am sure I will pick this up eventually. But I will certainly not pre order or pay extra to get it "EArly" (see what I did there) as I do not agree with this business practice at all. I will wait for certain folks here on OS to review gameplay and the modes. Hopefully post some video and such. But the YouTube influences and such are just garbage DD stuff that does not interest me at all. So they do not drive my purchase. If anything they detract from it.
    I love and continue to play '19. If this is my last MLB The Show for a good bit, well I could be alright with that.
    I actually hope they do add microtransactions to franchise. I know, I know, microtransactions are the devil, but it would mean franchise could get some real attention. I can even think of a few really good implementations.
    Imagine this: DD had player cards, RttS had equipment cards, Franchise had quirk cards, where you can add little quirks to each of your players. Example: have a card called "a little more time in the cages" where a player gets a small boost in contact ratings at the cost of a little durability. You could have all sorts of interesting sidegrades that could act as your way of coaching or encouraging specific behavior out of players in your roster.
    Player cards could also be spent on creating draft prospects that will mirror the spent cards development path/career.
    All of this could be ignored for the purists, but it would drive stub sales and also increase demand on the card market. And the devs would finally have true motivation to improve franchise mode.
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    Sorry, but no
    TheWarmWind
    I actually hope they do add microtransactions to franchise. I know, I know, microtransactions are the devil, but it would mean franchise could get some real attention. I can even think of a few really good implementations.
    Imagine this: DD had player cards, RttS had equipment cards, Franchise had quirk cards, where you can add little quirks to each of your players. Example: have a card called "a little more time in the cages" where a player gets a small boost in contact ratings at the cost of a little durability. You could have all sorts of interesting sidegrades that could act as your way of coaching or encouraging specific behavior out of players in your roster.
    Player cards could also be spent on creating draft prospects that will mirror the spent cards development path/career.
    All of this could be ignored for the purists, but it would drive stub sales and also increase demand on the card market. And the devs would finally have true motivation to improve franchise mode.
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    Microtransactions for franchise is better than microtransactions for online. People should be able to cheat themselves all they want, just not others.
    The only thing is nothing should come exclusively through microtransactions though, meaning you could earn those same things through time and success without purchasing any.
    bravesfan1984
    Sorry, but no
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    Why so resistant? With the implementation I proposed, you could just ignore it and it would cost you nothing nor take anything away from the mode. You'd get all of the upside (more attention to franchise) with none of the downside.
    TheWarmWind
    Why so resistant? With the implementation I proposed, you could just ignore it and it would cost you nothing nor take anything away from the mode. You'd get all of the upside (more attention to franchise) with none of the downside.

    I can just see it negatively impacting franchise mode the way we want to enjoy it (not including all the ridiculous ads and promotion of DD), even if you think there could be some benefits. I just don't think it would end well IMO. I could be wrong, but that's just how I'm thinking.
    TheWarmWind
    Why so resistant? With the implementation I proposed, you could just ignore it and it would cost you nothing nor take anything away from the mode. You'd get all of the upside (more attention to franchise) with none of the downside.
    yeah, as long as microtransactions are completely optional, there are no doubts in my mind they'd be good for franchise in the long run.
    TheWarmWind
    Why so resistant? With the implementation I proposed, you could just ignore it and it would cost you nothing nor take anything away from the mode. You'd get all of the upside (more attention to franchise) with none of the downside.

    Really good point - also I like your idea of each quirk having both positives and negatives rather than just positives. One thing that bugs me about RTTS and equipment is that there are no compromises in the attributes so you just add the highest level equipment and that’s it.
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    bravesfan1984
    I can just see it negatively impacting franchise mode the way we want to enjoy it (not including all the ridiculous ads and promotion of DD), even if you think there could be some benefits. I just don't think it would end well IMO. I could be wrong, but that's just how I'm thinking.

    NCAA 14 has/had OPTIONAL micro-transactions for their franchise mode. You could spend cash for time savers in dynasty mode. Plus they had the OPTIONAL uniform store where you could buy new uniforms and other items.
    Plus, The Show has had micro-transactions associated with its franchise mode (with the OPTIONAL sponsorships) for awhile now. Do you need to spend money for them? No...you can earn all the items just by playing. You can also use stubs for extra franchise budget. This year they added the HR calls and other stadium sound effects (which are incredibly fun and incredibly OPTIONAL).
    If game devs can find further OPTIONAL means for people to spend cash and help further monetize franchise modes (and make it "worth" improving), I will 100% throw funds at them. Why? Because I'll have spent close to 1000 hours playing a $60 game by the time 20 drops....you can't beat that value.
    After the first two streams, I'm more excited to play '20 due to the gameplay changes, most notably the defensive changes. Anything to continue to separate gold glovers from average to poor defenders is a welcomed addition in my book.
    Plus the attention paid to the catchers animations for blocking balls in the dirt as well as the new tag animations at the bases and '20 is shaping up to be a fun game to play in the field, which is a rare thing to say about a baseball video game. :)

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