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MLB The Show 20: Looking to the Past and Present to Predict Franchise Mode Rebranding

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MLB The Show 20: Looking to the Past and Present to Predict Franchise Mode Rebranding

With February and March comes MLB The Show developer livestreams, in addition to other things like actual baseball — and groundhogs. Today, we’re focusing on the developer streams.

Since the MLB The Show livestream schedule was revealed, one of the most discussed points relates to the these vague words: “rebrand your team in Franchise Mode.” In the sub-header of this specific livestream, the explanation was that “franchise lets you change team name, location and logos.”

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You don’t have to be a sleuth to see something big was missing here: changing stadiums.

Was it intentionally left off of this list so it can be a big surprise? Or was it intentionally left off this list because it’s not in the game?

The forums here and elsewhere have explored the possibility of what rebranding might entail. Unfortunately, I don’t have the exact answers either (we’ll get those answers on February 13 during the next Sony San Diego stream). However, I can look at the four main elements of a rebrand, team name/location, logos, uniforms and stadiums, and how games in the past — MVP Baseball, All-Star Baseball, NBA 2K, NHL and Madden — have handled these areas to see if we can piece together what we’ll find out later this week.

Team Names & Locations

NBA 2K offers the best current option here. It has a list of available cities, and the ability to change your location name and team name. The cities available to choose from all have audio that the announcers will say.

Madden and NHL both have a list of cities to choose from, but no way of customizing them. If you moved your team to San Diego, you couldn’t call them California. In Madden, each city comes with a list of three available names, or you can keep what you already have. In NHL, you can name the team whatever you want.

Not surprisingly, MVP Baseball 2005 has the least robust set of options. However, the Owner Mode in this game was robust in that it allowed you to create a whole new stadium for your team, which is something we still don’t get very often today.

Another PS2 game that came out a few years before MVP offered some fun options: All-Star Baseball. While not the same as what’s likely happening in The Show (the stream schedule says nothing about expansion, which is what this game had), the game had a list of 36 expansion cities and 30 team names. Nothing was editable, and the logos were final, but some of them looked a lot better than most of the generic stuff EA was working with later on.

When it comes to The Show, I’m expecting to get the logo creator/editor that’s available in Diamond Dynasty. With that in mind, I imagine we’ll be able to name the team whatever we want. We should also be getting the location and team name, in addition to audio slots for each.

I think the best-case scenario for MLB The Show is a list of about 20 pre-selected cities. You would see the usual cities like Montreal, San Jose, Charlotte, Portland, Las Vegas, etc. Baseball is an outdoor sport, so having cities with information about times zones, temperatures and weather would be nice. I know that some cities would be left out, so there would be some backlash there.

In comparison, while Madden’s offerings are limited, they come with full announcing audio integration. Brandon Gaudin will say “The London Monarchs” rather than “The home team” or perhaps worse, nothing at all. Matt Vasgersian’s current audio sounds decent, but you can tell that it’s been spliced together.

Logos

NBA 2K does the best job here. You can upload any image you want and can download other users’ images. Not much more you could want.

NHL and MVP Baseball have custom logos to choose from, and in NHL you could recolor any of them. It’s not the best options, but they get the job done.

Madden and All-Star Baseball all had preset logos to choose from. Those logos were tied to the name of your team.

As I said above, I’m expecting to have the same Diamond Dynasty logo creator we’ve had the past few years. In terms of effectiveness, I’d say it’s on par with what NHL currently has to offer. When working with shapes, letters and fonts in the game, you can create some pretty good logos. However, it’s not quite on the level of uploading a logo from elsewhere. That would be a welcome improvement to the current system.

Uniforms

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Once again, NBA 2K takes the cake here. Having enough usable templates for design novices but still giving more of a blank canvas to those more savvy users is great. There’s still room to improve as I said a few months ago, but it’s the best out there.

NHL provides customization of any template in use in the league, while MVP Baseball gave you 60 templates to choose from with no editable colors.

After choosing a team in Madden, you’re given a choice of three different uniforms. With about 15 cities to choose from, three nicknames per city and three uniforms per nickname, you’d think there would be 100-plus uniforms options, but there are only about 20 templates in there. Unfortunately, some of them are templates already in use in the NFL, which can sour the experience.

In All-Star Baseball, the away uniforms were tied to your chosen city, while the home uniforms were tied to your chosen logo.

For some reason, uniforms aren’t mentioned in the developer stream, which should be as worrisome as the stadiums being left off the list. But I think we’re getting the Diamond Dynasty creation suite within franchise mode. If that’s the case, It would be nice to get some updates there in regards to fonts and striping options. There’s also the question of uniform slots. Do we get alternates? Do they take the place of current uniforms, or are we able to get the current uniforms back?

Stadiums

This is the big question from everybody. NBA 2K and NHL do a great job with customization of everything around the arenas and the playing surfaces themselves. The ability to upload logos plays into 2K’s favor.

Madden has five stadiums to choose from now, but it used to have a pretty incredible stadium creator on the last generation of consoles. All-Star Baseball had seven generic stadiums to choose from, and there’s a video out there of an in-game tour of each, narrated by Derek Jeter.

Even though MVP NCAA Baseball 06 came out almost 15 years ago, the main thing people still remember about it is that you could edit your stadium. While the stands were static, you could set outfield wall distance, height and color/material. You could even give your stadium a cityscape background.

The worst-case scenario here is if there’s nothing at all done with the stadiums. As in, you move the Oakland A’s to Portland, but they still show up to work every day to play games in Oakland. If we’re stuck with the same stadium, then I’m not sure about the effectiveness of the feature. The best-case scenario is a blend of the stadium creation aspects of 10-year-old Madden (or even something like the indie lacrosse/tennis titles), with the customization of the current NBA 2K and NHL series.

I think we’re getting something like the All-Star Baseball series. There are already quite a few minor league parks available. So I think we’ll see around five MLB-caliber stadiums added to the game for use in relocation.

One thing that separates baseball from all the other major sports is the size of the playing surface. With football, hockey and basketball the court is the same. And in the games, you’re editing the things around it and the design of it. When customizing a stadium in baseball, the behind-the-scenes aspects of the game have to recognize that the size of the field is changing from a preset, hard-coded stadium already in the game. I know EA was able to do this 15 years ago, but I’m worried something will go awry in a game today.

Conclusion

Overall, I don’t think we’ll see anything different than what SDS has been using in past iterations of MLB The Show. I expect the Diamond Dynasty creation tools to be mostly the same, just now available within franchise mode. I hope neither uniforms nor stadiums were left off purposefully, and, at worst, we’ll get three uniforms slots and five pre-built stadiums to choose from. We’ll likely have the best version of this new feature coming with the next generation of consoles, and I think the development team is planning for that. Either way, I think my expectations will be met, but I hope I’ll be pleasantly surprised.

The MLB The Show 20 developer stream will discuss these things Thursday. After that the speculation will be over and the excitement or disappointment will kick in.

What kind of rebranding tools do you think we’re getting? What teams are you planning on moving or rebranding?

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  1. I agree. I think the best case scenario is a template of around 5 major league quality stadiums to choose from if there is in fact a full relocation option. But the pessimist in me also doesn’t see this as being an option, and instead we Are forced to play in default stadiums. In my opinion if the latter is the case instead of the former it will cheapen the feature and make it useless in franchise
    I guess your guess is correct.  We are getting the diamond dynasty creation code added to franchise.  
    I seriously doubt stadium builder but the good news is there are dozens of classic and created stadiums to choose from.
    All our questions are going to be answered this Thursday and with that I believe we will have some generic stadium options to relocate to.
    If not then the whole thing makes zero sense to me to implement. I don't think they (SDS) would do it half baked like that. So let's see what kind of stadium options we have.
    In short I am glad this feature has finally made it's way into the game as it has been asked for by the community for well over a decade now. This will inspire me to do a relocation franchise for sure.
    I hope we are pleasantly surprised with a deeper than expected customization suite for relocation.
    While I am excited for the MLB side I really hope to be able to do the same in Franchise mode for the Minors    I think it be a blast to create minor teams as well. 
    dodgerfan4eva
    So what I'm confused about will there be team expansions aso ? Or just team relocations.
    I'm betting NO on expansion, if only because of scheduling complications
    dodgerfan4eva
    So what I'm confused about will there be team expansions aso ? Or just team relocations.
    I would say expansion is very unlikely for this year. Even more unlikely then a full stadium creator. It probably would’ve been part of the notes for that stream on the stream schedule we got. Expansion would be something big that they would want to show off and get out there to build excitement, like relocation was. All that’s confirmed though is relocation and rebranding. But until Thursday we can always still hope for expansion too.
    Rocket32
    I would say expansion is very unlikely for this year. Even more unlikely then a full stadium creator. It probably would’ve been part of the notes for that stream on the stream schedule we got. Expansion would be something big that they would want to show off and get out there to build excitement, like relocation was. All that’s confirmed though is relocation and rebranding. But until Thursday we can always still hope for expansion too.

    Expansion would be a formula for disaster due to scheduling. Near zero chance of that.
    I'm starting to think "change the location of your team" just means changing the name of your city. Like how the Angels went from the Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels. No real relocation, generic stadiums, or anything like that. Maybe we see that on PS5 next year.
    The way they've revealed and worded this stuff just seems weird to me. If true relocation is in the game, I feel like it would've been a big part of the trailer.
    I want relocation as much as anybody. I spend a ton of hours on NBA 2K and OOTP designing teams every year. My expectations are getting pretty low for this though. Hoping for a surprise though.
    I’m hoping we can relocate to historic stadiums - they’re already in the game, they’re already playable in franchise...seems easy enough in theory 
    I'm as pessimistic as anyone, but there is zero chance they have the gall to add franchise relocation, but force you to play in another MLB teams stadium as is. With the announcers saying "Welcome to Philadelphia, home of the Phillies..." There is just no way. My prediction is pre-built stadiums, one that favor hitters, one that favor pitchers, etc. The blow away would be actually being able to create the stadiums.
    BoSox59
    I’m hoping we can relocate to historic stadiums - they’re already in the game, they’re already playable in franchise...seems easy enough in theory*

    Well it is. You'd just select that stadium before the game. That wouldn't be adding anything at all.
    ShadyFan25
    I'm starting to think "change the location of your team" just means changing the name of your city. Like how the Angels went from the Anaheim Angels to the Los Angeles Angels. No real relocation, generic stadiums, or anything like that. Maybe we see that on PS5 next year.
    The way they've revealed and worded this stuff just seems weird to me. If true relocation is in the game, I feel like it would've been a big part of the trailer.
    I want relocation as much as anybody. I spend a ton of hours on NBA 2K and OOTP designing teams every year. My expectations are getting pretty low for this though. Hoping for a surprise though.

    I have this same mentality.
    I want to be wrong. But my gut tells me it is literally just changing the text and being able to change logos and uniforms, ala DD.
    I have said before this is a base and it feels like they are trying to feel things out before we get to the PS5.
    I want more. I hope we get more. But if we don't I don't want to be disappointed so I have set realistic expectations for myself.
    I'm a traditional franchise fan. The rebranding does nothing for me. I'm never changing the Yankees or changing the City.
    What will get me to commit to a preorder now is some logic changes. I want to hear they worked on salary and budget logic.
    They put the new 26 man roster and 28 man September call ups in.
    They changed trade deadline for playoff eligibility to July 31. I also need to hear they fixed the playoff eligibility which has been an issue for 7 years with injured players.
    Regression and retirement logic.....
    Hit some of those, that are not back of box features, and I'm in.
    Real minor league players and text changes for team names does not get me excited. I can edit players.
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    tabarnes19
    I'm a traditional franchise fan. The rebranding does nothing for me. I'm never changing the Yankees or changing the City.
    What will get me to commit to a preorder now is some logic changes. I want to hear they worked on salary and budget logic.
    They put the new 26 man roster and 28 man September call ups in.
    They changed trade deadline for playoff eligibility to July 31. I also need to hear they fixed the playoff eligibility which has been an issue for 7 years with injured players.
    Regression and retirement logic.....
    Hit some of those, that are not back of box features, and I'm in.
    Real minor league players and text changes for team names does not get me excited. I can edit players.
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    THIS!!!!!!!
    tabarnes19
    I'm a traditional franchise fan. The rebranding does nothing for me. I'm never changing the Yankees or changing the City.
    What will get me to commit to a preorder now is some logic changes. I want to hear they worked on salary and budget logic.
    They put the new 26 man roster and 28 man September call ups in.
    They changed trade deadline for playoff eligibility to July 31. I also need to hear they fixed the playoff eligibility which has been an issue for 7 years with injured players.
    Regression and retirement logic.....
    Hit some of those, that are not back of box features, and I'm in.
    Real minor league players and text changes for team names does not get me excited. I can edit players.
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    Amen.
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    Enthusiastic about the Diamond Dynasty creation addition to franchise .
    Looking forward to moving the Atlanta Braves back to Milwaukee I love the Braves uniforms they added this year.
    Hope they add an option for a shoulder patch. I am going to have a lot of fun with this. Thank you much.
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    The franchise relocation is the tipping point for me, but I'd like to see it come with realignment (doubtful). I want to undo a wrong and put the Astros and Brewers back where they belong. And I want put a team back in Montreal - probably Tampa Bay, but I believe the Expos were National League, so I dont know. But, it could be my own little baseball world and at least the Expos would be back!
    Excited for Thursday, but probably shouldnt get my hopes up.
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    tabarnes19
    I'm a traditional franchise fan. The rebranding does nothing for me. I'm never changing the Yankees or changing the City.
    What will get me to commit to a preorder now is some logic changes. I want to hear they worked on salary and budget logic.
    They put the new 26 man roster and 28 man September call ups in.
    They changed trade deadline for playoff eligibility to July 31. I also need to hear they fixed the playoff eligibility which has been an issue for 7 years with injured players.
    Regression and retirement logic.....
    Hit some of those, that are not back of box features, and I'm in.
    Real minor league players and text changes for team names does not get me excited. I can edit players.
    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

    Yes, I would like all of these things to. But I also am realistic. DD and RTTS are there money maker modes, and adding real prospects not only helps franchise but also works to improve their “money maker” modes.
    I am actually super satisfied that they added real prospects because it is something they have never done before. Which means they are still trying to improve the offline experience, even if it is a big win for the DD crowd and RTTS crowd as well.
    Best case scenario the rebranding comes with 3-5 generic stadiums to apply to your team. Otherwise your pretty much right. It’s a useless feature unfortunately
    Culture Rot
    Well it is. You'd just select that stadium before the game. That wouldn't be adding anything at all.

    I get that, but under the current set up I can't, say, "relocate" the SF Giants to the Polo Grounds in NY as their default stadium with the dimensions influencing player stats and so on. I might be wrong, but there also isn't any team-specific branding with the current classic parks (apart from obvious ones like the Cardinal in Sportsman's Park) which would help for immersion.
    We've all probably been on the live streams and experienced the near impossibility of getting a question answered in the chat because of the heavy traffic which overwhelms the devs.
    My question for the upcoming stream is whether I can carry over my franchise from mlbts 19 to mlbts 20 and get none, some or all of the new features like franchise relocation and full minors.
    If I have to start a new franchise then I'll stop playing my current carry over franchise and wait for the game to be released.
    Therebelyell626
    Yes, I would like all of these things to. But I also am realistic. DD and RTTS are there money maker modes, and adding real prospects not only helps franchise but also works to improve their “money maker” modes.
    I am actually super satisfied that they added real prospects because it is something they have never done before. Which means they are still trying to improve the offline experience, even if it is a big win for the DD crowd and RTTS crowd as well.
    Best case scenario the rebranding comes with 3-5 generic stadiums to apply to your team. Otherwise your pretty much right. It’s a useless feature unfortunately

    I wouldn't say it's a useless feature without relocation. It's still pretty cool to be able to rebrand/design uniforms and logos. I'm sure a lot of people, including myself, will have fun making throwback sets or creating their own modern designs for teams.
    Full Relocation would obviously take this to the next level but I'm happy with being able to rebrand teams for now.
    The rebrand will be nice for people that play with with historic, generated or fictional rosters.
    When I was a kid I would probably create a league with local high schools and players.
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    tessl
    We've all probably been on the live streams and experienced the near impossibility of getting a question answered in the chat because of the heavy traffic which overwhelms the devs.
    My question for the upcoming stream is whether I can carry over my franchise from mlbts 19 to mlbts 20 and get none, some or all of the new features like franchise relocation and full minors.
    If I have to start a new franchise then I'll stop playing my current carry over franchise and wait for the game to be released.
    Likewise I would like to find out the answer to this.
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    ShadyFan25
    I wouldn't say it's a useless feature without relocation. It's still pretty cool to be able to rebrand/design uniforms and logos. I'm sure a lot of people, including myself, will have fun making throwback sets or creating their own modern designs for teams.
    Full Relocation would obviously take this to the next level but I'm happy with being able to rebrand teams for now.

    Good points. I am just saying it will be useless for me because I am not good at designing things like this
    tuckermaine
    So from what I understand you must play a full year in Franchise then in first off season is when you can rebrand or relocate...hoping not..

    No, they showed (and said) that you can rebrand any number of MLB teams at league creation.
    tuckermaine
    So from what I understand you must play a full year in Franchise then in first off season is when you can rebrand or relocate...hoping not..

    You can do it when you start the franchise as well when you are selecting teams.

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