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NBA 2K20 Roster Update Available - See the Changes Here (11-21)

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NBA 2K20 Roster Update Available - See the Changes Here (11-21)

A new NBA 2K20 roster update is available. Check out all of the changes below.

  • Paul George: 94 OVR (+1)
  • Luka Doncic: 93 OVR (+3)
  • Karl-Anthony Towns: 91 OVR (+1)
  • Joel Embiid: 91 OVR (-1)
  • Kyrie Irving: 91 OVR (-1)
  • Bradley Beal: 89 OVR (+2)
  • Jimmy Butler: 89 OVR (+1)
  • Russell Westbrook: 88 OVR (-2)
  • D’Angelo Russell: 87 OVR (+2)
  • Rudy Gobert: 87 OVR (+1)
  • Eric Bledsoe: 86 OVR (+2)
  • Clint Capela: 86 OVR (+2)
  • Chris Paul: 86 OVR (+1)
  • Nikola Vucevic: 85 OVR (+1)
  • Jrue Holiday: 85 OVR (+1)
  • C.J. McCollum: 85 OVR (-1)
  • Draymond Green: 85 OVR (-1)
  • Kristaps Porzingis: 85 OVR (-2)
  • Andrew Wiggins: 84 OVR (+4)
  • Gordon Hayward: 83 OVR (+1)
  • Paul Millsap: 83 OVR (+1)
  • Ja Morant: 82 OVR (+1)
  • Bam Adebayo: 82 OVR (+1)
  • DeAndre Jordan: 82 OVR (+1)
  • Mike Conley: 82 OVR (-1)
  • Mitchell Robinson: 81 OVR (+1)
  • Spencer Dinwiddie: 81 OVR (+1)
  • Jaren Jackson Jr.: 81 OVR (-1)
  • Kyle Kuzma: 81 OVR (-3)
  • Devonte Graham: 80 OVR (+4)
  • Jabari Parker: 80 OVR (+2)
  • Evan Fournier: 80 OVR (+2)
  • Jonathan Isaac: 80 OVR (+2)
  • Ricky Rubio: 80 OVR (+1)
  • Goran Dragic: 80 OVR (+1)
  • Harrison Barnes: 80 OVR (+1)
  • Fred VanVleet: 80 OVR (+1)
  • Jeff Teague: 80 OVR (+1)
  • Dwight Howard: 80 OVR (-1)
  • Lauri Markkanen: 80 OVR (-2)
  • Bogdan Bogdanovic: 79 OVR (+3)
  • Eric Paschall: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Brook Lopez: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Collin Sexton: 79 OVR (+2)
  • JaVale McGee: 79 OVR (+2)
  • OG Anunoby: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Nemanja Bjelica: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Aron Baynes: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Moritz Wagner: 78 OVR (+4)
  • Brandon Clarke: 78 OVR (+2)
  • Kendrick Nunn: 78 OVR (+2)
  • Larry Nance Jr.: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Richaun Holmes: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Taj Gibson: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Delon Wright: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Derrick Favors: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Derrick White: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Thaddeus Young: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Marc Gasol: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Markelle Fultz: 77 OVR (+2)
  • George Hill: 77 OVR (+1)
  • P.J. Washington: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Christian Wood: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Patrick Mills: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Josh Okogie: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Rui Hachimura: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Meyers Leonard: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Joe Ingles: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Joe Harris: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Taurean Prince: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Alec Burks: 76 OVR (+4)
  • Kris Dunn: 76 OVR (+2)
  • Robert Williams: 76 OVR (+2)
  • Tomas Satoransky: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Bismack Biyombo: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 76 OVR (+1)
  • De’Andre Hunter: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Nicolas Batum: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Tim Hardaway Jr.: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Malik Beasley: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Chris Boucher: 75 OVR (+4)
  • Duncan Robinson: 75 OVR (+2)
  • James Ennis: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Donte DiVincenzo: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Brad Wanamaker: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Aaron Holiday: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Trey Burke: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Evan Turner: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Danuel House: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Omari Spellman: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Troy Brown Jr.: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Wesley Matthews: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Dennis Smith Jr.: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Mohamed Bamba: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Terence Davis: 74 OVR (+4)
  • Daniel Gafford: 74 OVR (+3)
  • Langston Galloway: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Matt Thomas: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Allen Crabbe: 74 OVR (+1)
  • Frank Ntilikina: 74 OVR (+1)
  • T.J. Leaf: 74 OVR (+1)
  • C.J. Miles: 74 OVR (+1)
  • Tyler Johnson: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Cameron Reddish: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Jeff Green: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Mario Hezonja: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Chimezie Metu: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Terrance Ferguson: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Frank Jackson: 73 OVR (+1)
  • Hamidou Diallo: 73 OVR (+1)
  • Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Thabo Sefolosha: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Marco Belinelli: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Solomon Hill: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Tony Bradley: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Ky Bowman: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Bruno Fernando: 72 OVR (+1)
  • JaKarr Sampson: 72 OVR (+1)
  • Cameron Johnson: 72 OVR (+1)
  • Semi Ojeleye: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Cory Joseph: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Chris Silva: 71 OVR (+4)
  • Javonte Green: 71 OVR (+2)
  • Carsen Edwards: 71 OVR (+1)
  • Matthew Dellavedova: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Rodney McGruder: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Wesley Iwundu: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Dwayne Bacon: 71 OVR (-2)
  • Lonnie Walker IV: 71 OVR (-2)
  • Chris Clemons: 70 OVR (+3)
  • Isaiah Hartenstein: 70 OVR (+2)
  • Elie Okobo: 70 OVR (+1)
  • Tyrone Wallace: 68 OVR (-1)
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  1. Luka about to be a BEAST in this game.   And slow clap for Wiggins man.  This might be his first rating increase of his 2K career.  
    UnbelievablyRAW
    Can someone tell me if Fred Vanleet got new badges/stamina boost? Terence Davis gonna be rated 78-79 soon
    Both Chris and Terence both got +4 ratings. I'm waiting to get home to check the ratings.
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    I don't see how Russell Westbrook went down. And maybe I thought James Harden would of got a boost for his streak.
    Again I'll check under the hood.
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    Fultz went up +2 (75) to (77)
    Beal went up +2 (87) to (89)
    Robinson from the Knicks goes from an (80) to an (81) along with a few other players. I'm surprised Julieus Randle didn't get a boost. I see PG13 went from a (93) to a (94) Granted he's been balling since his return from injury.
    WeFireThoseCannons
    I bet they just give them a boost or decrease by messing with the intangible rating. Do they actually say what skill they update to give boost?

    I update my own roster according to 2K ratings and I can confirm this is not true at all lol :freddy: Other than accessories and other stuff, they are doing a good job with ratings and badges.
    DancyHercules3
    I update my own roster according to 2K ratings and I can confirm this is not true at all lol :freddy: Other than accessories and other stuff, they are doing a good job with ratings and badges.

    Alrite good, since the intangibles would be a quick cheap way for them to do the updates. At least they are updating by skills.
    Weird I probably have Luka's ratings on the highside in my roster and he is an 89. I wonder where the ratings to get a +4 come from. Maybe it's a position thing.
    Smirkin Dirk
    Weird I probably have Luka's ratings on the highside in my roster and he is an 89. I wonder where the ratings to get a +4 come from. Maybe it's a position thing.

    Badges and their tier (Bronze/Silver/Gold/HOF) are an important factor this year in calculating the overall rating. Obviously, the more badges and the better the tier, the more the overall goes up. Reducing badges has the same effect as well.
    infemous
    Makes playing with the Grizzlies an eyesore tbh

    Why did 2k do that, last time I checked he was wearing the Kyrie 6 in one of those city colorways. Tonight he was Kyrie low 2 mr. crabs I think they called.
    Perhaps you haven't watched Devonte Graham playing lately. Kid is balling. Both have similar stats as well. VanVleet averaging 17 pts 7 assist. Graham averaging 18 pts 7 assist.
    XxKnicksRules215xX
    Why did 2k do that, last time I checked he was wearing the Kyrie 6 in one of those city colorways. Tonight he was Kyrie low 2 mr. crabs I think they called.

    Beggars belief. I hope it’s fixed next time that update required pops up. Grizzlies the team I like to use the most in Tier 3 PNO
    jeebs9
    I don't see how Russell Westbrook went down. And maybe I thought James Harden would of got a boost for his streak.
    Again I'll check under the hood.
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    shooting almost 19% from 3 and only 65% at rim. Defense sucks as well.
    Smirkin Dirk
    Weird I probably have Luka's ratings on the highside in my roster and he is an 89. I wonder where the ratings to get a +4 come from. Maybe it's a position thing.

    Ratings actually have a diminished effect on OVR due to badges now affecting OVR.
    One side effect is that Intangibles has half the effect it used to.
    But it also means adjusting attributes is largely meaningless if you're trying to boost rating. It's all badges if you want to push players into the 80s this year.
    martymcflyy85
    Perhaps you haven't watched Devonte Graham playing lately. Kid is balling. Both have similar stats as well. VanVleet averaging 17 pts 7 assist. Graham averaging 18 pts 7 assist.

    I multi-qouted his post with the quickness but you beat me to it. Graham has been balling this season.
    Too bad we wasted a multi-year deal on Rozier. Now the backcourt rotation is kinda messed up. Seems like we're always in contract limbo. :jpshakehe
    HoustonHarden
    shooting almost 19% from 3 and only 65% at rim. Defense sucks as well.
    Hasn't been shooting badly since last year. What's the difference this year....?
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    UnbelievablyRAW
    Can someone tell me if Fred Vanleet got new badges/stamina boost? Terence Davis gonna be rated 78-79 soon

    He also needs a signature jumper update. Took them years to fix Lowry’s I wonder how long this will take.
    Can anyone tell me how on earth Trae Young deserves a 90+ 3pt rating and all those badges for shooting 35.8% on 8.6 shots (3.1 makes)?
    Bradley Beal shoots 2.9/8.4 (35.0%) and sits at 82 3pt rating, Buddy Hield shoots 3.9/9.9 (39.8) and has a 86.
    BasketBalla21
    I multi-qouted his post with the quickness but you beat me to it. Graham has been balling this season.
    Too bad we wasted a multi-year deal on Rozier. Now the backcourt rotation is kinda messed up. Seems like we're always in contract limbo. :jpshakehe

    Rozier's contract isn't really a waste, as nobody saw this coming from Graham (who is under
    contract for a paltry 1.6M in 2021). Charlotte's PG position is locked up for only 20M.
    Rozier has also been starting at SG next to him which is more or less an evolution the NBA has been steadily moving towards - double PG lineups, where-in the SG slides over when the starting PG leaves the game.
    jk31
    Can anyone tell me how on earth Trae Young deserves a 90+ 3pt rating and all those badges for shooting 35.8% on 8.6 shots (3.1 makes)?
    Bradley Beal shoots 2.9/8.4 (35.0%) and sits at 82 3pt rating, Buddy Hield shoots 3.9/9.9 (39.8) and has a 86.

    For the same reason Steph Curry has a 99 3pt rating. Favoritism / Fan Appeal
    jk31
    Can anyone tell me how on earth Trae Young deserves a 90+ 3pt rating and all those badges for shooting 35.8% on 8.6 shots (3.1 makes)?
    Bradley Beal shoots 2.9/8.4 (35.0%) and sits at 82 3pt rating, Buddy Hield shoots 3.9/9.9 (39.8) and has a 86.

    Q Rating. 2k has become worse and worse at this kind of thing.
    I got some huge beefs with some of the classic players ratings. I'm ready to post. But I don't know where.
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    Rashidi
    For the same reason Steph Curry has a 99 3pt rating. Favoritism / Fan Appeal

    That is not a good nor even a close comparison. Curry shot 43.7 percent from three last season and is 43.5 for his career. He has a wide lead on 3pt made for active players and has the highest career percentage of all active players. No player in the league has anywhere close to his shooting resume.
    Young on the other hand has league average 3pt percentage this year and has been below league average since being in the league.
    It is easy to see who’s rating is more accurate.
    PrettyT11
    That is not a good nor even a close comparison. Curry shot 43.7 percent from three last season and is 43.5 for his career. He has a wide lead on 3pt made for active players and has the highest career percentage of all active players. No player in the league has anywhere close to his shooting resume.
    Young on the other hand has league average 3pt percentage this year and has been below league average since being in the league.
    It is easy to see who’s rating is more accurate.

    One would really have to look at the data for how open guys are as well. It's one thing to be Kyle Korver and knock down open threes where you are the kickout guy. It's another to be knocking down threes like Steph where's he a primary focus of the D, doing pull ups, shooting off curls, shooting with hands in his face, etc.
    Comduklakis
    One would really have to look at the data for how open guys are as well. It's one thing to be Kyle Korver and knock down open threes where you are the kickout guy. It's another to be knocking down threes like Steph where's he a primary focus of the D, doing pull ups, shooting off curls, shooting with hands in his face, etc.

    Exactly. If anybody ever in history deserves a 99 in 3pt it is Curry. When you look at his makes per game combined with his percentage and how many of them are unassisted and off the dribble he is far and away the best shooter ever.
    PrettyT11
    Exactly. If anybody ever in history deserves a 99 in 3pt it is Curry. When you look at his makes per game combined with his percentage and how many of them are unassisted and off the dribble he is far and away the best shooter ever.
    I have fought with Rashid for years on this same subject. I used the Ray Allen for example for years now. But Curry is a totally different story.
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    jk31
    Can anyone tell me how on earth Trae Young deserves a 90+ 3pt rating and all those badges for shooting 35.8% on 8.6 shots (3.1 makes)?
    Bradley Beal shoots 2.9/8.4 (35.0%) and sits at 82 3pt rating, Buddy Hield shoots 3.9/9.9 (39.8) and has a 86.

    fan appeal but also because he's known as a shooter from all over the court.
    Granted the other two can shoot that thang too but Young will pull up from the logo while the other two are more traditional, just with excellent range when need be.
    PrettyT11
    That is not a good nor even a close comparison. Curry shot 43.7 percent from three last season and is 43.5 for his career. He has a wide lead on 3pt made for active players and has the highest career percentage of all active players. No player in the league has anywhere close to his shooting resume.

    Yes, and his rating doesn't reflect where he belongs on 2K's own scale (how they determine 99.9% of other 3pt ratings).
    Just because Curry is the best shooter in history doesn't mean he deserves a maxed-out 99 rating every single season. Especially given the evolution of the badges system - it's not his overall percentage (3pt rating) that makes him the GOAT shooter.
    Rashidi
    Yes, and his rating doesn't reflect where he belongs on 2K's own scale (how they determine 99.9% of other 3pt ratings).
    Just because Curry is the best shooter in history doesn't mean he deserves a maxed-out 99 rating every single season. Especially given the evolution of the badges system - it's not his overall percentage (3pt rating) that makes him the GOAT shooter.

    Wasn’t saying he should have a 99 every year. We are speaking in reference to 2K20 which is mostly based off last season numbers. My entire point with Curry was your comparison to Young had zero merit. Also that if anybody was deserving of a 99 rating it is Curry.
    His overall percentage are a huge part of why he is the greatest shooter ever. The only people ahead of him percentage wise all time are guys who shot wide open assisted threes and their percentage is skewed by the years the line was shorter. People used to try and make arguments about the type of shots people took to argue for their lower percentages. Curry kills that argument cause he takes the most shots, the most difficult shots, and the percentage is still HIGHER than everybody’s. So there really is no argument against him cause he has damn near Steve Kerr level percentages with outrageous shot difficulty.
    PrettyT11
    We are speaking in reference to 2K20 which is mostly based off last season numbers. My entire point with Curry was your comparison to Young had zero merit.

    A review of what I said:
    Rashidi
    For the same reason Steph Curry has a 99 3pt rating. Favoritism / Fan Appeal

    Default 3pt Ratings / 2019 3pt Shooting
    85 James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    84 Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    84 Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    82 Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Young's production was clearly ignored when they came up with his rating. Just as it is every year with Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. You opted to address this with a Curry tangent.
    People used to try and make arguments about the type of shots people took to argue for their lower percentages. Curry kills that argument cause he takes the most shots, the most difficult shots, and the percentage is still HIGHER than everybody’s.

    86 Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    85 James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    84 Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    Unfortunately, 2K is CLEARLY selective with their application to that logic.
    Rashidi
    A review of what I said:
    Default 3pt Ratings / 2019 3pt Shooting
    85 James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    84 Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    84 Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    82 Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Young's production was clearly ignored when they came up with his rating. Just as it is every year with Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson. You opted to address this with a Curry tangent.
    86 Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    85 James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    84 Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    Unfortunately, 2K is CLEARLY selective with their application to that logic.

    There was no tangent. You wanted to make a direct comparison of Young and Curry ratings as if they are both way off. You clearly didn’t post Curry numbers cause it doesn’t go with your argument.
    99 Curry: 354-810 (43.7%)
    So he is clearly far and away better at 3pt shooting than everybody you listed. Curry shooting spot up open threes last season was a LEAGUE BEST 52.5%. With those metrics easily available again it isn’t a stretch as to why he has the highest rating. So yes I agree with you on Young being way off but trying to put Curry in that way off category is clearly wrong and off base.
    ksuttonjr76
    Does anyone feel like we should be getting another roster update soon?

    I got a list of stuff I'm ready to go off this time. A lot of classic players are missing or just have the wrong set up. I've waited for 3 updates to say anything. I'm not playing anymore lol
    The only roster update you'll need is mine once I finish this weekend. 2k's tendencies are really off and I also have some different ratings. Everyone check out what I've done so far for a preview before the whole thing is out.
    zten11
    The only roster update you'll need is mine once I finish this weekend. 2k's tendencies are really off and I also have some different ratings. Everyone check out what I've done so far for a preview before the whole thing is out.
    I play PNO. I'm kinda stuck with 2K's roster updates.
    ksuttonjr76
    I play PNO. I'm kinda stuck with 2K's roster updates.

    It's pretty much the only thing I play.
    That why I need these things fixed....
    PrettyT11
    You clearly didn’t post Curry numbers cause it doesn’t go with your argument.

    My argument, that certain players have their production ignored? Lol.
    So he is clearly far and away better at 3pt shooting than everybody you listed.

    I was very clearly illustrating the issues with Trae's 3pt rating by using players in his range. You know, the primary discussion?
    So yes I agree with you on Young being way off but trying to put Curry in that way off category is clearly wrong and off base.

    Newsflash: There is a difference between calling Curry an overrated shooter and acknowledging that 2K gives him bonus points to his rating. This is something 2K has historically done for MANY players over the last FIFTEEN YEARS.
    99 Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    95 Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    94 Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    90 J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    90 Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    88 Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    Curry isn't the only player on his team with a rep-inflated rating.
    Rashidi

    99 Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    95 Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    94 Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    90 J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    90 Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    88 Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)

    By 2K's Scale:
    93 (-1) Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    91 (-8) Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    91 (+1) Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    90 (NC) Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 (+2) Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    89 (-6) Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    88 (-2) J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    86 (+2) Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    86 (+1) James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    85 (+1) Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    84 (-2) Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    80 (-4) Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    79 (-3) Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Curry and Klay have major deviation from scale relative to their peers (while Trae and Luka were only moderately overrated). It's ludicrous to suggest Curry deserves a major boost based on "shot difficulty" (which is already accounted for some in scale) while Harden and Lillard are actually UNDERrated without that factoring that in.
    Default Shooting Badges
    Curry: 17 (3 HOF, 14 Gold)
    Klay: 16 (4 HOF, 9 Gold, 2 Silver)
    Harris: 8 (6 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze)
    Curry/Klay don't need the bonus points. That matters a helluva lot more than an otherwise 2-4 point disadvantage.
    Rashidi
    By 2K's Scale:
    93 (-1) Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    91 (-8) Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    91 (+1) Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    90 (NC) Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 (+2) Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    89 (-6) Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    88 (-2) J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    86 (+2) Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    86 (+1) James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    85 (+1) Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    84 (-2) Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    80 (-4) Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    79 (-3) Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Curry and Klay have major deviation from scale relative to their peers (while Trae and Luka were only moderately overrated). It's ludicrous to suggest Curry deserves a major boost based on "shot difficulty" (which is already accounted for some in scale) while Harden and Lillard are actually UNDERrated without that factoring that in.
    Default Shooting Badges
    Curry: 17 (3 HOF, 14 Gold)
    Klay: 16 (4 HOF, 9 Gold, 2 Silver)
    Harris: 8 (6 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze)
    Curry/Klay don't need the bonus points. That matters a helluva lot more than an otherwise 2-4 point disadvantage.

    you doing rosters this year?
    Wow, I never thought that on 2ks scale an 80 rating now correlates to that bad percentages. I mean, I know that 80 was just average, but these correlating percentages are just bad.
    jk31
    Wow, I never thought that on 2ks scale an 80 rating now correlates to that bad percentages. I mean, I know that 80 was just average, but these correlating percentages are just bad.
    Honestly, what Rashidi posted was the scale that I was to before (NBA 2K11) they started inflating ratings and giving players stupid badges.
    jk31
    Wow, I never thought that on 2ks scale an 80 rating now correlates to that bad percentages. I mean, I know that 80 was just average, but these correlating percentages are just bad.

    Yeah, for the past several years I had been abiding by that chart from the Mike Wang interview on Complex for 2K16, where a 75 had you at 32%, an 85 at 41%, and an 80 around 35%. And up through 2K19 that was working for me.
    But I noticed the CPU's 3-point percentage this year is pretty brutal: about 20-25% in CPU vs. CPU games when the 3PT Success slider is left at 50. If they scaled up the 3PT rating this year without updating the player's ratings accordingly (average rating for guards & wings is still about 80), that might explain it.
    Rashidi
    My argument, that certain players have their production ignored? Lol.
    I was very clearly illustrating the issues with Trae's 3pt rating by using players in his range. You know, the primary discussion?
    Newsflash: There is a difference between calling Curry an overrated shooter and acknowledging that 2K gives him bonus points to his rating. This is something 2K has historically done for MANY players over the last FIFTEEN YEARS.
    99 Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    95 Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    94 Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    90 J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    90 Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    88 Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    Curry isn't the only player on his team with a rep-inflated rating.

    Rashidi
    By 2K's Scale:
    93 (-1) Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    91 (-8) Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    91 (+1) Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    90 (NC) Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 (+2) Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    89 (-6) Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    88 (-2) J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    86 (+2) Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    86 (+1) James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    85 (+1) Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    84 (-2) Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    80 (-4) Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    79 (-3) Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Curry and Klay have major deviation from scale relative to their peers (while Trae and Luka were only moderately overrated). It's ludicrous to suggest Curry deserves a major boost based on "shot difficulty" (which is already accounted for some in scale) while Harden and Lillard are actually UNDERrated without that factoring that in.
    Default Shooting Badges
    Curry: 17 (3 HOF, 14 Gold)
    Klay: 16 (4 HOF, 9 Gold, 2 Silver)
    Harris: 8 (6 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze)
    Curry/Klay don't need the bonus points. That matters a helluva lot more than an otherwise 2-4 point disadvantage.

    I don’t know how or what shot totals you are using cause that isn’t their numbers from last. It also isn’t any combo of last year plus this year or the last two years but that does make a difference cause the percentages are off. You are again missing the point but it’s cool lol. Now you have and do spend a ton of time with these ratings and we have had agreements and disagreements over the years but it is respected no doubt. But badges aside don’t you think other factors could be taken into consideration this year since they removed the multiple ratings for 3pt shooting and just went with the one rating??
    Cause if that is the case again Steph shot easily the best percentage in the league on open 3pt shots. So if the rating is just to determine the player’s ability to shoot a standstill 3pt shot and the badges determine the effectiveness of other types of 3pt shots then Curry should be right at the top of the list.
    Rashidi
    By 2K's Scale:
    93 (-1) Joe Harris: 187-407 (45.9%)
    91 (-8) Stephen Curry: 446-1054 (42.3%)
    91 (+1) Buddy Hield: 278-651 (42.7%)
    90 (NC) Danny Green: 237-554 (42.8%)
    90 (+2) Seth Curry: 134-303 (44.2%)
    89 (-6) Klay Thompson: 311-757 (41.1%)
    88 (-2) J.J. Redick: 276-692 (39.9%)
    86 (+2) Paul George: 307-804 (38.2%)
    86 (+1) James Harden: 426-1165 (36.6%)
    85 (+1) Damian Lillard: 296-801 (37.0%)
    84 (-2) Kevin Durant: 172-468 (36.8%)
    80 (-4) Luka Doncic: 168-514 (32.7%)
    79 (-3) Trae Young: 156-482 (32.4%)
    Curry and Klay have major deviation from scale relative to their peers (while Trae and Luka were only moderately overrated). It's ludicrous to suggest Curry deserves a major boost based on "shot difficulty" (which is already accounted for some in scale) while Harden and Lillard are actually UNDERrated without that factoring that in.
    Default Shooting Badges
    Curry: 17 (3 HOF, 14 Gold)
    Klay: 16 (4 HOF, 9 Gold, 2 Silver)
    Harris: 8 (6 Gold, 1 Silver, 1 Bronze)
    Curry/Klay don't need the bonus points. That matters a helluva lot more than an otherwise 2-4 point disadvantage.

    I don't believe you can discount difficulty though. The types of 3s that Harris and Green are taking are very different than what Curry or even Hield are taking. The question becomes how the ratings work now with so many badges. Is it just a rating for an open 3? Should badges be used for those who hit tougher shots than just catch and shoot (though there is a badge for that too)?

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