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MLB The Show 20: Franchise Mode Rebranding, a Predictable But Nice Touch

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MLB The Show 20

MLB The Show 20: Franchise Mode Rebranding, a Predictable But Nice Touch

For anyone who has been tracking the “rebrand your franchise” bullet point, today’s news should not come as too much of a surprise. Our own Chris Huber outlined his predictions earlier this week, and today’s reveal by San Diego Studio puts most of the MLB The Show franchise mode rebrand in perspective (at least we think).

I will start off by saying things could still change or be expanded upon based on tomorrow’s livestreams from San Diego Studio — this is just a short marketing video — but I think they’re probably putting their best foot forward here with this feature’s bullet points. This means the bullet points below are probably the high points:

  • Create your own logo
  • Edit your team’s name
  • Design your team’s uniforms

If that’s the case, then fair enough. It’s a positive step because it’s something most of us have felt should be in the mode for some time now. Diamond Dynasty has had access to a very impressive customization suite for jersey creation, and being able to have that in franchise mode is just logical and smart. However, if this is all there is, and it’s limited in such a way where it only applies to one “new” team, obviously some people are still going to be disappointed. You’re not going to get a chance to create a full-on fictionalized league, and you’re also not going to get quite enough depth to really say this is a full-on expansion concept.

I say that because there is no mention of a stadium editor or creator. Now, most of us didn’t think there would be a full-on stadium creator during the sunset of this console generation, but we were holding out hope for some added generic stadiums. This could still happen (there are some subtle hints it may be in there based on this video), but if it does not, it does put a damper of sorts on the concept of a full rebrand for your team. At that point, it’s hard to even say you’re “relocating” a team — not that they ever said anything about relocation — if you don’t get some choices for a new stadium.

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On top of that, there is no mention of being able to import a logo like in NBA 2K. This, again, was not expected but would have been a nice surprise. The creation suite makes it so you still can find a lot of what you want — or create your own if you put in the time — but an import feature would have made the process simpler for many.

All that being said, I do think this feature will be much more appreciated by the hardcore franchise crowd if The Show team also mentions tomorrow some quality under-the-hood improvements to franchise mode. This would apply to things like roster logic, trade logic, rotating interleague schedules, player progression tweaks, bullpen management improvements, expanded rosters, and more diverse equipment and brands for that equipment (we’ve already seen some new Nike shoes, which is nice). I obviously have my doubts that will occur based on the recent past, but it would be the easiest way to sort of bring the entirety of the community together.

Regardless of what happens, getting a full minors with some actual face scans on day one is a big deal, and I don’t want the negativity to totally drown out whatever does or does not get revealed tomorrow for franchise mode. After all, not everything is about what we want. Not everyone could get the OSFM rosters or was aware they existed because not everyone was as online as us. Many people will also just be happy being able to create their high school or college team and put that in the franchise mode.

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As a final point, it’s interesting to consider where people’s expectations would be right now if they were just surprised by all of this rather than putting the pieces together ahead of time. While it’s nice that the developers have outlined their preview plan and dropped enough hints for people like us to figure out a lot of what they’ll talk about, it also makes some people feel underwhelmed when they get what they were already expecting. We’ve been talking about getting real minor leaguers for weeks. We’ve been talking about getting the Diamond Dynasty creation suite in franchise mode for weeks as well. To finally get confirmation of these things ends up being a “well, duh” more than “oh, sweet!” for some due to this fact.

Either way, there is no question Sony is fighting an uphill battle with the hardcore franchise mode crowd based on their own priorities they have set in recent years, so it’s not like they should get a free pass. However, this year is already an improvement over last even if it still doesn’t end up where some people want (or expect) it to be.

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  1. Pretty much what I expected, just moving the DD team editor over to franchise and pretending that's relocation. The absolute bare minimum. Very underwhelming.
    On a side note, whoever came up with the terrible puppet idea needs firing (preferably into the sun)
    I figured exactly what it would be. A token to try and appease the franchise crowd since nothing has been touched.
    Hopefully stream will address franchise logic changes.
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    I'm fine with it as it's the first year with it. If we don't get much change next year when new consoles are out then I'd be underwhelmed
    BigOscar
    Pretty much what I expected, just moving the DD team editor over to franchise and pretending that's relocation. The absolute bare minimum. Very underwhelming.
    On a side note, whoever came up with the terrible puppet idea needs firing (preferably into the sun)

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    The key here is in the “pick a stadium” dialog box.
    Hope they added a few generic major league stadiums.
    Edit: just saw Josh posted pretty same thing at same time :-)
    So I’ll add this. How many slots we’ll have free to replace an existing team ? If it’s just one away and one home slot then it will be very disappointing .
    Not to be super negative, but this really is something they could have implemented awhile ago. Throw the DD customizer into the franchise.
    I figured it would not be in-depth, and while I was not expecting a create-a-stadium or a true expansion, I was hoping for more. I likely won't touch this until those things are added.
    2k did it all in one. Madden did it all in one (even though its not great many were hoping for something similar).
    Oh well, some people will enjoy it even though it is very bare-bones. I fear this is the only franchise info we get as it is combined with the RTTS stream. Ill take the full minors as well.
    It is just unfortunate that the actual structure, meat & bones of franchise seems like it will be untouched.
    I was hoping for more, like ability to import logos via USB that we find online, say the Expos logo or other old teams logos, but this is exactly what I expected bare minimum DD editor...
    Lol, a huge thanks to all of those who have been asking for this so that we finally have it halfassed into the franchise mode instead of actual improvements that help me to replicate real life baseball. Improvements that are sorely needed just to keep up with real life happenings and rules, let alone other sports game’s franchise modes.
    Lipstick on a pig.
    bigwill33
    Lol, a huge thanks to all of those who have been asking for this so that we finally have it halfassed into the franchise mode instead of actual improvements that help me

    Okay sure, blame US....:jpshakehe
    Am I wrong? I thought this looked pretty good for the relocation fans, at least for the first wave of relocation. Looks like a ton of branding options.
    jcar0725
    Am I wrong? I thought this looked pretty good for the relocation fans, at least for the first wave of relocation. Looks like a ton of branding options.

    It is good. It is better than nothing. It's just that once it was confirmed, we already knew this was coming, and it is absolutely nothing more that we already expected. I am still happy about it. I expect it will be expanded on in the next few years.
    *while the board rage is still at lava levels*
    They NEVER said anything about relocation just rebranding, I do expect create a stadium in MLB 21 as they'll have had the dev kits for almost 2 years to work out the kinks
    Glad I lowered my expectations for this. No true relocation feature, just rebranding. Still excited to use it tbh.
    Hoping we see Create a Stadium next year to make the feature feel more complete.
    TripleCrown
    Hmmmmm :y11:
    good catch. Doesn't look like an existing one to me indeed.

    It definitely looks like a generic stadium, and I’m thinking it’s gonna be one of the stadiums for relocation!
    I'm OK with rebranding being the only BIG addition for this year that is worth marketing to the masses. Aside from FIFA (which is a different animal) MLB was the only sports game out there that didn't have at least some sort of rebranding and/or relocation option. It doesn't move the needle for me much personally, but it IS a big deal for many (and the creation suite is already quite robust).
    That said....there are a TON of little things that they COULD do that would make the mode much better. They wouldn't advertise them or probably wouldn't even talk about them on-stream....but they could make our lives better.
    A perfect example would be adding the correct minor league options to all players across the board. To 99% of the player base, that's a "who cares?" kind of thing. But I can practically hear a bunch of you drooling at that possibility....because we GET the depth it adds to roster planning and construction.
    Combine that with a "full minors" roster and the annual gameplay improvements, and that's a lot of oomph for a one year cycle.
    .........but it all comes down to the "little things" and whether or not they did them....
    Glad to see Generic stadiums "confirmed" that was the one thing I was hoping for. It would have been really disappointing to relocate a team and have them play in a current stadium or MiLB stadium.
    I am curious still if the logo behind home plate will change if you choose a MLB stadium.
    In DD your team's logo is down the 1st/3rd baselines and the MLB team logo is still behind the plate. I'm hoping they were able to replace that with your custom logo. Especially if you just change the logo but keep the team name the same.
    dalger21

    They mentioned many times RTTS is the most played mod. Then followed by DD & BR i think. Franchise probably 4th in the list I imagine. So guess where the money,focus & efforts are going.
    Only thing is maybe they forgot they built a base of hardcore fans over all those years who are back years over years supporting this game through this forum (roster, sliders and all).
    Ok, enough said. Let concentrate on the good news. There`s more good news this year for franchise players than last 2-3 years.
    I'm making some assumptions here but:
    - it looks like it only applies to a new franchise
    - it looks like you have to completely rebrand a team. No new alternates for already existing team brands.
    - no option to use current team brands and lettering.
    - might be 1 team only per franchise.
    If all of the above is true, then I have little to no interest in using the feature.
    I hope I'm wrong.
    At least there seems to be more generic stadiums. New spring training venues for me!
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    TheWarmWind
    I'm making some assumptions here but:
    - it looks like it only applies to a new franchise
    - it looks like you have to completely rebrand a team. No new alternates for already existing team brands.
    - no option to use current team brands and lettering.
    - might be 1 team only per franchise.
    If all of the above is true, then I have little to no interest in using the feature.
    I hope I'm wrong.
    At least there seems to be more generic stadiums. New spring training venues for me!
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    I don’t think it will apply to only new Franchises. If I had to guess, I think the creation suite is gonna be available at anytime during your Franchise, not just at the start. In Diamond Dynasty, you can edit your Uniforms and logos at any time. I don’t see why it wouldn’t be the same in Franchise.
    I also have a feeling you’ll be able to edit all 30 teams, as long as you’re usering them.
    Just my predictions though, maybe we’ll find out during the stream.
    Well, I wasn’t really expecting division restructuring but, at least it appears I can move the Rays, perhaps an entire new team to replace the Astros and rename them. Could add a little fun to the game. New generic stadium would be a must though.
    I just want to be able to edit coaches in case they ever put one on the Yankees with a beard wearing a retired number!
    Please! I've been BEGGING for this for over a DECADE!
    KnightTemplar
    Well, I wasn’t really expecting division restructuring but, at least it appears I can move the Rays, perhaps an entire new team to replace the Astros and rename them. Could add a little fun to the game. New generic stadium would be a must though.

    If you look in the background around 1:10, that looks like a generic stadium. The question now becomes how many generic stadiums are there.
    BigOscar
    Pretty much what I expected, just moving the DD team editor over to franchise and pretending that's relocation. The absolute bare minimum. Very underwhelming.
    On a side note, whoever came up with the terrible puppet idea needs firing (preferably into the sun)

    100% what I expected. Not sure why anyone would think franchise mode would get any kind of actual upgrade.
    So can we only edit uniforms if we completely rebrand a team or will we be able to edit existing team uniforms, like changing the default road undershirt color for example? Last year, the Braves had red sleeves on the road even though they wear the same blue ones home and away in real life and it just looked wrong. I'm hoping we can edit aspects of the existing uniforms without having to start from scratch
    Rotating interleague schedules? Nah. Smarter AI bullpen usage? Nah. Better CPU roster management? Nah. Fix for postseason rosters? Nah. But cool, hot dog hats.
    If we can "rebrand" more than 1 team and select generic stadiums, im all for it. Im interested in moving Miami, Tampa and possibly Oakland. If it allows me to do the above mentioned(change all that they mentioned, select a generic stadium and actually have the announcement in game be correct) inn all for it.
    Just angers me that theyve had all these years to implement relocation and havnt. If High Heat and MLB MVP 05 had it, why the hell can't tbey do it now with the technology and disk space they have now a days. Frustrating. And its not going to change on the 5 either
    But im a sucker and will still buy the damn game..
    ShadyFan25
    If you look in the background around 1:10, that looks like a generic stadium. The question now becomes how many generic stadiums are there.

    Yes, I see that. You would think five new ones would be a good start. It would suffice.
    Underwhelming for me personally, but pretty much what we expected. If there isn’t generic stadiums then I probably will never use. Still a cool add for those who will though.
    Kind of hard for me not to be excited since they announced ridin’s rosters are in the game out of the box. At this point SDS can do no wrong and it looks like another day one purchase for me
    I’m still on the fence. Real minor leaguers are nice and it’s nice they give us the option to rebrand teams. But I want to see what they have regarding roster management and the progression system. Otherwise I’ll just keep playing 19 and skip out on this one.
    Very enthusiastic about this!
    Would love to have the ability to add a logo/ patch on the left sleeve.
    I have hundreds of players I created that I'm transporting to 2020.
    I hope I can use this feature on those players.
    My fear is I will have to re-create those players one by one. To be able to incorporate this in my franchise.
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    TheWarmWind
    I'm making some assumptions here but:
    - it looks like it only applies to a new franchise
    - it looks like you have to completely rebrand a team. No new alternates for already existing team brands.
    - no option to use current team brands and lettering.
    - might be 1 team only per franchise.
    If all of the above is true, then I have little to no interest in using the feature.
    I hope I'm wrong.
    At least there seems to be more generic stadiums. New spring training venues for me!
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    I hope this isn't true. I have so much time invested in my players. I don't think I have it in me to do it again this year for 6 to 8 months. I think I will just skip this if it's not offered to my 400 created players.
    Wish they would open up franchises like roster. So I could incorporate my players.
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    Cool video. I already uploaded a couple logos for the jersey and ballcap.
    Search "windmill" - windmill with the sun rising behind it. Name of the team Midwest Farmers.
    There are more questions to be answered.
    Can I do this - and full minors - with a carry over franchise?
    One thing related to player happiness is location. Will the game recognize the location I choose or will I get the location of the franchise I edit? I'm fine either way but would like to know.
    bigwill33
    Lol, a huge thanks to all of those who have been asking for this so that we finally have it halfassed into the franchise mode instead of actual improvements that help me to replicate real life baseball. Improvements that are sorely needed just to keep up with real life happenings and rules, let alone other sports game’s franchise modes.
    Lipstick on a pig.

    Feels a little unfair to peeps in the community to blame them for wanting a rebranding feature while also acting like they wouldn't want the franchise mode to be more realistic in terms of logic.
    Perhaps refine this take a bit.
    ChaseB
    Feels a little unfair to peeps in the community to blame them for wanting a rebranding feature while also acting like they wouldn't want the franchise mode to be more realistic in terms of logic.
    Perhaps refine this take a bit.

    Agreed 100%.
    Also, it's not as if this is something that would have taken some insane amount of time, prohibiting them from improving other areas. It's just an editor they already had, put in a different mode. If they had the appetite to improve the other parts of franchise, this isn't the thing that stopped them.
    Others have mentioned it, but I'll also note that this will be infinitely more usable (at least for me) if they had options to
    1) Add or modify uniforms for existing team.
    2) Use existing team logos & fonts in the uniform creator for a expansion team (workaround for #1)
    3) Be able to import logos via USB or online suite instead of having to create them in their editor.
    MetsFan16
    Glad to see Generic stadiums "confirmed" that was the one thing I was hoping for.

    Where did you see this “confirmation”? Not doubting, just curious and hoping it’s true we are getting some new stadiums.
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    In the video, the Marlins throwbacks from 97 with the black sleeves were shown. Does this mean they will likely be included in the game this year?
    IUGB22
    In the video, the Marlins throwbacks from 97 with the black sleeves were shown. Does this mean they will likely be included in the game this year?

    Yes, yes it does.
    Godgers12
    I dont understand how NCAA Baseball had full stadium customization, yet some 14 years later it still has not made it's way into MLBTS...
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    I think it's probably an assets thing before anything else, honestly. Sure time and priority for sure play a part, but art assets are more expensive and unless they actually develop a solid creation suite for this, it would probably be time-intensive and expensive to make all the stuff for it. I understand why baseball create-a-stadium would happen last of all the major sports since the dimensions and stuff actually change place to place so it's not as straight forward to make a generic stadium creator as well.
    bigwill33
    Lol, a huge thanks to all of those who have been asking for this so that we finally have it halfassed into the franchise mode instead of actual improvements that help me to replicate real life baseball. Improvements that are sorely needed just to keep up with real life happenings and rules, let alone other sports game’s franchise modes.
    Lipstick on a pig.

    I use manage mode. Aside from a couple minor things I can't think of any rules or real life happenings which aren't in the game.
    Could you be specific?
    beau21
    Others have mentioned it, but I'll also note that this will be infinitely more usable (at least for me) if they had options to
    1) Add or modify uniforms for existing team.
    2) Use existing team logos & fonts in the uniform creator for a expansion team (workaround for #1)
    3) Be able to import logos via USB or online suite instead of having to create them in their editor.

    You can create an existing team logo/font and if you check the vault you will see many. The art program in DD is easy and fun to use.
    Search windmill in the logo vault and you will see what I created in about an hour - windmill with the sun rising behind it. Jerseys are easier with multiple fonts to choose from.
    If I knew how to make a youtube video explaining it I would.
    I have a question since I never played DD. With this rebranding thing, is there a workaround for relocation?
    Will I be able to pick the Rays, update an Expos logo from the vault (there will be plenty I guess), switch the name for MTL Expos & play in a generic stadium?
    If so, it's still not relocation but I'd be happy to start with that, That's the only thing that would make me drop my 4 year NYY franchise (I play every single pitch!) since I'm French Canadian :D
    agentlaw13
    Where did you see this “confirmation”? Not doubting, just curious and hoping it’s true we are getting some new stadiums.
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    So at 1:05 you’ll see in the background a generic stadium where your home team stadium usually is. At 1:17 it says select your stadium and it has Tropicana in the background.
    Could be a bit speculation hence the quotes for confirmed.
    Cool feature but not sure Ill ever be using it, for now. All I personally wanted was to be able to upload logos to a server ala NBA 2K, so I can edit MLB teams' current logos for specialty uniforms, like Mothers/Fathers Day, Players Weekend, etc. Definitely not doing that now because that'll take FOREVER, and the quality wouldnt be good anyways.
    Guess Ill stick to OOTP for franchise and The Show for a player career.
    Hardworker33
    I have a question since I never played DD. With this rebranding thing, is there a workaround for relocation?
    Will I be able to pick the Rays, update an Expos logo from the vault (there will be plenty I guess), switch the name for MTL Expos & play in a generic stadium?
    If so, it's still not relocation but I'd be happy to start with that, That's the only thing that would make me drop my 4 year NYY franchise (I play every single pitch!) since I'm French Canadian :D

    You can already play home games in any stadium you want. Current, classic or created.
    You can take a logo and switch name. Go to DD and check it out. You have to finish the tutorial first which takes about 10 minutes.
    I am pumped for tomorrows stream. The reason?
    Bacons Fictional Roster.
    If we do 30 team control and have the ability to create 30 custom teams?
    The immersion can be off the hook for a Fictional Franchise this year.
    As far as real life teams? I can see doing a rebranded Miami franchise easy.
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    Gagnon39
    Rotating interleague schedules? Nah. Smarter AI bullpen usage? Nah. Better CPU roster management? Nah. Fix for postseason rosters? Nah. But cool, hot dog hats.

    While I'm pleased about the new additions concerning team editing, the real question on my mind is whether I'll finally be able to bunt one over the fence this year. Each year I get closer than the year before. Let's hope they paid some more attention to this, so we can finally see some bunt homers.
    Armor and Sword
    I am pumped for tomorrows stream. The reason?
    Bacons Fictional Roster.
    If we do 30 team control and have the ability to create 30 custom teams?
    The immersion can be off the hook for a Fictional Franchise this year.
    As far as real life teams? I can see doing a rebranded Miami franchise easy.
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    This is what I was thinking as well!! If this is possible?! Man this could really change things going forward.
    Real world franchise gameplay? I would like to move Oakland to Virginia. But I don't know if we would be able to re align divisions?
    One thing that I have not seen mentioned. With this "Re Branding" and "Re Locating" will we be able to edit schedules or maybe finally have rotating schedules? I would think if we can move teams around some kind of schedule editing would almost be required?
    Bullit
    This is what I was thinking as well!! If this is possible?! Man this could really change things going forward.
    Real world franchise gameplay? I would like to move Oakland to Virginia. But I don't know if we would be able to re align divisions?
    One thing that I have not seen mentioned. With this "Re Branding" and "Re Locating" will we be able to edit schedules or maybe finally have rotating schedules? I would think if we can move teams around some kind of schedule editing would almost be required?

    My hope is that can be developed in the future.
    For now let’s see what stadium options we have as far as generics. And also we have all those minor league fictional stadiums to use too. That can give a small town feel to a lot of rebranded teams and then you can have big city teams.
    Using our imaginations we can have some serious fun and a totally fresh franchise experience using fictional rosters and rebranding.
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    Armor and Sword
    My hope is that can be developed in the future.
    For now let’s see what stadium options we have as far as generics. And also we have all those minor league fictional stadiums to use too. That can give a small town feel to a lot of rebranded teams and then you can have big city teams.
    Using our imaginations we can have some serious fun and a totally fresh franchise experience using fictional rosters and rebranding.
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    They need to open up the uniform slots in my opinion. 2 uniforms just isn't going to cut it in this day and age, but so far it is a start with a ton of possibilities.
    ChaseB
    I think it's probably an assets thing before anything else, honestly. Sure time and priority for sure play a part, but art assets are more expensive and unless they actually develop a solid creation suite for this, it would probably be time-intensive and expensive to make all the stuff for it. I understand why baseball create-a-stadium would happen last of all the major sports since the dimensions and stuff actually change place to place so it's not as straight forward to make a generic stadium creator as well.

    Pretty much this. They touched on this a few years ago in the Presentation stream (I want to say for 17 or 18). They want nothing more than to add it to the game, but it's become a lot more difficult. The two main presentation guys said that in the old systems, it was easier because there wasn't much "building" of the stadium, it was just 2D assets.
    Now everything is 3D with different textures painted on, lighting, depth, and more that they'd have to both build into the game. So you'd have to build in and allow customization for every possible stadium scenario. Even if they give you 5 different types of stand for each section of the stadium (home plate, 1st base, 3rd base, LF, CF, RF), all of that would have to be built and coded in for every possible scenario in 3D.
    I think they'll get it in next gen when the system allows for more power to do so, but they've talked about eventually putting it in the game when they can do it right and not half *** it like they could get away with for PS2 and PS3.
    Meh could care less about this. I'm only playing with one major league team. I'm not looking to create a new one from scratch ever. On to the next video please!
    Armor and Sword
    I am pumped for tomorrows stream. The reason?
    Bacons Fictional Roster.
    If we do 30 team control and have the ability to create 30 custom teams?
    The immersion can be off the hook for a Fictional Franchise this year.
    As far as real life teams? I can see doing a rebranded Miami franchise easy.
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    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.
    desouza7
    Pretty much this. They touched on this a few years ago in the Presentation stream (I want to say for 17 or 18). They want nothing more than to add it to the game, but it's become a lot more difficult. The two main presentation guys said that in the old systems, it was easier because there wasn't much "building" of the stadium, it was just 2D assets.
    Now everything is 3D with different textures painted on, lighting, depth, and more that they'd have to both build into the game. So you'd have to build in and allow customization for every possible stadium scenario. Even if they give you 5 different types of stand for each section of the stadium (home plate, 1st base, 3rd base, LF, CF, RF), all of that would have to be built and coded in for every possible scenario in 3D.
    I think they'll get it in next gen when the system allows for more power to do so, but they've talked about eventually putting it in the game when they can do it right and not half *** it like they could get away with for PS2 and PS3.

    To build on this, people tend to forget when mentioning "but MVP had stadium creator on the PS2!" is that theres a few things: They had it in NCAA 06 and 07 but think back: they didnt have stands beyond the outfield walls (which is to be expected of most NCAA stadiums). So if you adjust the dimensions you dont have to worry about moving stands beyond the wall. With stands getting moved, you have potential clipping issues.
    The one in MVP 05 was very basic. If I remember correctly there were 4 maybe 5 different layouts you could choose from. And then the stands just get built from there. There wasnt actually that much customization, not like some people think there was. (I think seat color and grass cut were about all I can remember, maybe little decorations around the park? Been a while since I played 05).
    Bear in mind, I love MVP 05 and the two NCAA games. They're still some of my all time favs, but people put them on a pedestal too much sometimes. Maybe its nostalgia. Who knows.
    Now obviously there probably wont be any stadium customization this year (but maybe I'll be wrong with the stream tomorrow. I doubt it though), but like you said, making stuff "customizable" is way harder than it was back on the PS2. But I wont go on about stuff that's already been said.
    Me personally, I'm excited and think this is a good first step. I imagine they have to be saving a create-a-stadium feature for the next gen, possibly even 21 when the game goes multiplat, because that will be a big selling feature. Could go later for the next year as a reason for people to get 22, because Xbox and Switch players have been waiting for a full baseball sim. Hopefully extra sales from Xbox and Switch should hopefully justify Sony giving them a bigger team to work with and get more done year to year.
    Since it doesn’t look like they’re going to add in Olympic Stadium anytime soon, I really hope there’s a generic domed/indoor stadium to use for relocation or just to stick the Nats in with historical rosters
    TheBleedingRed21
    Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    This looks like it's going to be fun. Yes, it may be bare bone to start for this year but as long as they expand on it with full relocation/expansion options on the next Gen Consoles they can have just as good as a relocation/expansion feature as NBA 2K.
    I'm not holding out hope or anything but it would be nice if division/conference realignment was announced tomorrow in the stream or patched in at some point this year. More of a wishlist item for sure when it comes to MLB The Show 21 but will be fun to mess with in terms of classic rosters and classic teams.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    I notice they begin from the new franchise menu. I'd gladly pass on full minors to be able to create a custom team or import a custom team from the 19 vault in my carry over franchise.
    I'll start anew if I have to but would prefer to carry over the existing franchise and then create the custom team if that's an option.
    Hardworker33
    I have a question since I never played DD. With this rebranding thing, is there a workaround for relocation?
    Will I be able to pick the Rays, update an Expos logo from the vault (there will be plenty I guess), switch the name for MTL Expos & play in a generic stadium?
    If so, it's still not relocation but I'd be happy to start with that, That's the only thing that would make me drop my 4 year NYY franchise (I play every single pitch!) since I'm French Canadian :D
    That's what I'm hoping to do to; "move" the Rays to Montreal and bring back the Expos. I was hoping to undo the Astros/Brewers deal too, but doesn't sound like that will be possible. Expected, but a let down nonetheless.
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    Armor and Sword
    I am pumped for tomorrows stream. The reason?
    Bacons Fictional Roster.
    If we do 30 team control and have the ability to create 30 custom teams?
    The immersion can be off the hook for a Fictional Franchise this year.
    As far as real life teams? I can see doing a rebranded Miami franchise easy.
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    I’d like to import one teams worth of Bacons fictional roster and put them all on one team. Rebrand said team and play is as an expansion team. Put the fictional team up against the real major league.
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    As for under the hood stuff, I only have a few simple requests. First of all, I hope they have tested the hell out of importing a franchise from MLB 19. Each year there are some things that are a bit floopy when a franchise is carried over.
    Next, track minor league stats.
    Finally, and this should be easy as can be, is to add an option to alter the start times of games. After one season of starting a franchise, all the games are basically 1 PMish and 7 PMish, no option for late afternoon games and appropriate times for playoff games. We can change the weather, the theme, and whether or not retractable roofs are open or closed, so how hard could this be to add? Particularly since if you just play a single, non-franchise game, you can choose the start time. Nothing worse than a west coast team playing in the world series and having their home games start at 7PM Pacific Time. The October shadows are a huge part of the true feeling of playoff games.
    Juzbee
    As for under the hood stuff, I only have a few simple requests. First of all, I hope they have tested the hell out of importing a franchise from MLB 19. Each year there are some things that are a bit floopy when a franchise is carried over.
    Next, track minor league stats.
    Finally, and this should be easy as can be, is to add an option to alter the start times of games. After one season of starting a franchise, all the games are basically 1 PMish and 7 PMish, no option for late afternoon games and appropriate times for playoff games. We can change the weather, the theme, and whether or not retractable roofs are open or closed, so how hard could this be to add? Particularly since if you just play a single, non-franchise game, you can choose the start time. Nothing worse than a west coast team playing in the world series and having their home games start at 7PM Pacific Time. The October shadows are a huge part of the true feeling of playoff games.

    I forgot to mention that I will forever be asking for Tiger Stadium to be in the Classic Stadium list until it's there!
    tessl
    I notice they begin from the new franchise menu.]
    I'll start anew if I have to but would prefer to carry over the existing franchise and then create the custom team if that's an option.

    These headaches could be mitigated somewhat if they would allow us the functionality of:
    1) Exporting players from a franchise WITHOUT having cpu roster control on
    OR
    2) Allowing the export of a roster (or individual teams) from franchise mode.
    For the life of me, I have never been able to figure out why player export had to be tied to cpu roster control. Probably old code, but it's been this way since the beginning and makes no sense.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    Which at the very least opens up the possibility of creating your own league, or even single A.
    Buccosback
    I'm curious if they would expand rosters to 110-120 cause how will they decide the 15 minor leaguers in single A?

    Same as always. Try to get as many of the teams top prospects in as possible. Obviously not everyone will make it in,(if there is only 15 spots still, won't know until today) but we will try our best.
    Mauer4MVP
    I can't wait to rebrand the Astros as the Clowns
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    You may want to re-brand half the league because I am 100% sure many other teams have been stealing signs with technology as well. The Astros got caught because a former scorned players blew the whistle.
    This is not an isolated incident. It is more teams than you probably think too.
    And I am not an Astros fan.....but it is already getting tiresome all the ribbing.
    I think we can all move on.
    ShowTyme15
    Same as always. Try to get as many of the teams top prospects in as possible. Obviously not everyone will make it in,(if there is only 15 spots still, won't know until today) but we will try our best.
    Looks like aaa and aa will have 26 man rosters. If same number of total spots then A will have fewer.
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    Armor and Sword
    You may want to re-brand half the league because I am 100% sure many other teams have been stealing signs with technology as well. The Astros got caught because a former scorned players blew the whistle.
    This is not an isolated incident. It is more teams than you probably think too.
    And I am not an Astros fan.....but it is already getting tiresome all the ribbing.
    I think we can all move on.
    Not to hijack the thread about this but their the ones that are at the center of attention and their owner couldn't even admit they had an advantage today.
    They are sorry they got caught, not that they did it.
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    Mauer4MVP
    Not to hijack the thread about this but their the ones that are at the center of attention and their owner couldn't even admit they had an advantage today.
    They are sorry they got caught, not that they did it.
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    You know why? Because many other teams are doing it too. It is far from over.
    And no it does not make it right. I think it was and is despicable to blatantly cheat using technology to steal signs.
    Hinch.....I feel for him. But he could have stopped it and he did not. He was a great manager.....and he allowed the lunatics to run the asylum. He got exactly what he deserved. I don't think you will ever see him in MLB ever again.
    But this is going to go deeper if MLB wants it to. Question is.....will they put more black eye's on their game, which already has viewership issues.
    Who knows.
    Anyway like you I do not want to derail the thread.
    Armor and Sword
    You may want to re-brand half the league because I am 100% sure many other teams have been stealing signs with technology as well. The Astros got caught because a former scorned players blew the whistle.
    This is not an isolated incident. It is more teams than you probably think too.
    And I am not an Astros fan.....but it is already getting tiresome all the ribbing.
    I think we can all move on.

    So this “buzzer” thing got me thinking. Why not turn it around so the pitcher has a buzzer and the catcher can pass through the pitch he wants with a clicker or something
    LastActionHero
    So this “buzzer” thing got me thinking. Why not turn it around so the pitcher has a buzzer and the catcher can pass through the pitch he wants with a clicker or something
    Buzzer is already un the game...goes by the name "guess pitch"
    In the video when he is playing with the new uniforms, he is still in Miami’s stadium. You can see the Marlin logo behind the plate. I hope he just selected the Miami stadium and there really are generic stadiums.
    Also I hope when using the uniform editor, the “Old” uniforms stay available to use. I really want to create the early 90’s Rangers “Nolan Ryan” jerseys but want to use the new powder blue ones as well.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    nice. that is a good find.
    LastActionHero
    So this “buzzer” thing got me thinking. Why not turn it around so the pitcher has a buzzer and the catcher can pass through the pitch he wants with a clicker or something

    LOL
    A couple of things. You do know that was an internet hoax right? There were no buzzers. And I think the pitcher would have serious pain after all that buzzing through a game LOL.
    Sign stealing is part of the game when it is done with the human eye.
    This was an abomination of that and I am sure the commissioners office will be on high alert and cracking down moving forward on technology being used to steal signs.
    Such a huge black eye on the league. What a shame.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    Marlins...team budget 102 million. Good to see budgets are still f'd up
    TheBleedingRed21
    I think you are gonna be in luck.. looking at the team screen where we pick our teams and users.. Marlins are not selected as USER and you can replace them with custom team by pressing R1. Cannot guarantee this, but it seems like it would be highly likely that since its not tied to user selection, you could replace them all.

    A missed opportunity on this screen. They should've made it so you could swap the real teams from division to division, thus allowing division realignment. But all you're affecting is the branding of the team...rosters stay the same, which is why the option is not there, if I understand correctly.
    You could still pull it off, but you'd have to trade all the players and import a custom "real MLB" team.
    NBA2K allows you to do it with ease...we were so damn close this year, but all things considered, I'm happy with how far they've gone.
    According to the stream you can do rebranding during the off season and with that being the case I'm guessing I can continue my carry over franchise and rebrand. I'm halfway thru my current season. Need to play another 80 or so games in the next month.
    This is great news.
    Developers have fulfilled the #1 thing on my list. Thank you.
    MetsFan16
    Well, I was dead wrong :lol:

    Lol...oh well! I’m excited to try out the rebranding feature but yeah, not having a few generic stadiums to choose from kills the immersion for me.
    I’m sure they will offer more going into the PS5 era but I thought if they were gonna roll the feature out this year that they would have at least thrown a few new stadiums in there in its introduction.
    Still gonna give the mode a go though. I actually played last night and tried a few different minor league stadiums and narrowed it down to one or two that I’ll use in my rebranded franchise.
    Regardless I’m still excited to get the game in my hands in about a month!
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    Did we get a definitive NO that the challenge system will NOT be expanded? Or was that not touched upon because it didn't have to do specifically with Franchise, DD, or RTTS?
    I know people are split, but for the sake of realism, I personally would love to be able to challenge more than just out/safe calls at 1st base with no base runners on....that is literally the ONLY situation that it ever pops up in.
    I'd love for it to be expanded to plays at other bases, like somebody steals 2nd or 3rd, maybe a play at the plate or a trap catch.
    Maybe that's something that just can't happen until PS5.
    JDL375
    Did we get a definitive NO that the challenge system will NOT be expanded? Or was that not touched upon because it didn't have to do specifically with Franchise, DD, or RTTS?
    I know people are split, but for the sake of realism, I personally would love to be able to challenge more than just out/safe calls at 1st base with no base runners on....that is literally the ONLY situation that it ever pops up in.
    I'd love for it to be expanded to plays at other bases, like somebody steals 2nd or 3rd, maybe a play at the plate or a trap catch.
    Maybe that's something that just can't happen until PS5.

    With it not being mentioned during the Gameplay Stream, I'm going to take that as an indication that they have not expanded the replay system.
    I'm guessing if they expanded it to other bases, they would've mentioned it in the gameplay stream.
    agentlaw13
    Lol...oh well! I’m excited to try out the rebranding feature but yeah, not having a few generic stadiums to choose from kills the immersion for me.
    I’m sure they will offer more going into the PS5 era but I thought if they were gonna roll the feature out this year that they would have at least thrown a few new stadiums in there in its introduction.
    Still gonna give the mode a go though. I actually played last night and tried a few different minor league stadiums and narrowed it down to one or two that I’ll use in my rebranded franchise.
    Regardless I’m still excited to get the game in my hands in about a month!
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    It doesn't really bother me although it would be a nice touch. I'm thinking about Old Miami, Shea or Old Atlanta because they have modern day dimensions unlike most of the classic ballparks.
    I haven't spent much time looking at the minor league ballparks. The ones I looked at don't seem to have dimensions listed. Which ones are you considering?
    One question I have is this - there is a quirk where player happiness depends on where he is from relative to location of the team. I wonder how that will be handled in the rebranded franchise.
    tessl
    It doesn't really bother me although it would be a nice touch. I'm thinking about Old Miami, Shea or Old Atlanta because they have modern day dimensions unlike most of the classic ballparks.
    I haven't spent much time looking at the minor league ballparks. The ones I looked at don't seem to have dimensions listed. Which ones are you considering?
    One question I have is this - there is a quirk where player happiness depends on where he is from relative to location of the team. I wonder how that will be handled in the rebranded franchise.

    Can’t remember the exact names but I think one is Statesmen Park(?) and the other is Capital Field(?). Looked for ones that had some stands in the outfield (to get a sense of the crowd size at the games) and backdrop of being in the middle of a city. I’m probably gonna relocate a team to Nashville and Capital Field has the backdrop similar to if there was a stadium downtown near the capital. We’ll dig a little deeper on the stadium choice once I have the new game
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    ramspeedkill
    What happens to old uniforms once you rebrand a team? You create a new home and road jersey but then what happens to 70s,80s,90s unis?

    It's a good bet they'd be gone forever.
    Raises a good question...what if you want to take a team and leave everything alone except it's name or city...can you do it? I'm betting you can't....once you "rebrand" everything gets set to default values.
    Hope I'm wrong.
    ramspeedkill
    What happens to old uniforms once you rebrand a team? You create a new home and road jersey but then what happens to 70s,80s,90s unis?

    They go to the great beyond I imagine?
    ramspeedkill
    What happens to old uniforms once you rebrand a team? You create a new home and road jersey but then what happens to 70s,80s,90s unis?

    It most likely is the same is the diamond dynasty suite. You get one home uniform and one road uniform of your design.
    I doubt you get any old uniforms. In the stream they said the first hit, home run etc will be described by the announcer as the first home run in the history of your team.
    agentlaw13
    Can’t remember the exact names but I think one is Statesmen Park(?) and the other is Capital Field(?). Looked for ones that had some stands in the outfield (to get a sense of the crowd size at the games) and backdrop of being in the middle of a city. I’m probably gonna relocate a team to Nashville and Capital Field has the backdrop similar to if there was a stadium downtown near the capital. We’ll dig a little deeper on the stadium choice once I have the new game
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    The closest to a neutral stadium I've seen from the old classic stadiums is Sportsman's Park. RF is a cheap home run. CF is pitcher friendly. LF is neutral. It's located in a city landscape. Downside is it says home of the Cardinals on the scoreboard.
    I've got about 80 games left in my current carry over franchise season. I'll try some minor league parks to see if there is one I like. The upside of that would be you are playing in a ballpark which isn't branded to a different team.
    tessl
    The closest to a neutral stadium I've seen from the old classic stadiums is Sportsman's Park. RF is a cheap home run. CF is pitcher friendly. LF is neutral. It's located in a city landscape. Downside is it says home of the Cardinals on the scoreboard.
    I've got about 80 games left in my current carry over franchise season. I'll try some minor league parks to see if there is one I like. The upside of that would be you are playing in a ballpark which isn't branded to a different team.

    Franco park and Statesman seem like the best options to me if you want a more city look. If I remember right then Franco’s capacity is one of the biggest out of the Show’s minor league stadiums too if that matters to you.
    Maybe we can kind of look at it in our heads as since the team is moving so quickly they have to play in that lesser stadium for now while their actual new MLB caliber one is being built. Realistically brand new sports stadiums don’t appear instantly out of thin air. Wouldn’t work for a sim heavy player and it does kind of only work assuming that we get generic stadiums or create a stadium feature next year. Maybe it’s a stretch but it’s a storyline to use in our heads to help make the best of what we have for now, right?
    Only problem I can think of with that is if you go to rebrand after carrying the franchise over next year, if you just change the stadium and not the location, would the special commentary reset and treat things for your team as a ‘first’ again? Assuming the carryover feature works going to a new console.
    I have one dilemma with Franchise Rebranding
    (and im too lazy to read this thread and see if my question has been answered)
    Will we get to make a secondary logo??? I mean there are so many instances where we see the team logos in Franchise Mode, and every MLB team currently has a main and alternate logo.
    Also please don't make our hat logos the definitive logo for the team like in DD :( :(, don't need to edit my new team's whole uniform just find out my logo is microscopic.
    CrimsonLeal
    I have one dilemma with Franchise Rebranding
    (and im too lazy to read this thread and see if my question has been answered)
    Will we get to make a secondary logo??? I mean there are so many instances where we see the team logos in Franchise Mode, and every MLB team currently has a main and alternate logo.
    Also please don't make our hat logos the definitive logo for the team like in DD :( :(, don't need to edit my new team's whole uniform just find out my logo is microscopic.

    Sorry but it is just the DD creation suite.

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