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OS Roundtable: How Excited Are You That NCAA Games Are Potentially Returning?

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OS Roundtable: How Excited Are You That NCAA Games Are Potentially Returning?

It has been a huge week of news for the future of NCAA video games. With that in mind, we asked the staff how they were feeling after this exciting turn of events that has many of us eyeing the return of NCAA video games by 2021 or 2022.

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Jeff Botkin: As a major NCAA gaming fan, I am so excited about the possibility of NCAA sports gaming making a magnificent return. After all, there has been such a long layoff since NCAA Football 2014. The advancement of the consoles and graphics would make for a fantastic platform for NCAA games to return to. How great would it be to sit down on a Saturday afternoon and boot up a showdown between Notre Dame and USC? Or maybe an Oregon versus LSU. Imagine NCAA Football 2021 including broadcast overlays like the Pac-12 Network, Big 10 Network, ESPN, ABC and more. Imagine every college team being included, from division 1 teams to 1-AA.

Not only would I love to see NCAA Football return, I would also like to see NCAA Basketball and College Hoops 2K with March Madness and Selection Sunday. The possibility of taking your 16-seeded team to a national championship warms the soul. Or how about NCAA Baseball with metal bats and the drive to make it to a College World Series. I hope EA and 2K take the time and put in the leg work to bring these titles back to the sports gaming market. Fingers crossed.

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Josh Houtz: I’m not sure words can describe how excited I am for a potential return of NCAA Football. After all, it was one of the few games I would buy each and every year. No matter how good Madden was, NCAA Football always seemed to be one step ahead to me. How great was it to build a small division 1 school into a dynasty after years of recruiting and making the right decisions? And now that I’ve grown older, I’m starting to appreciate watching college football from noon on Saturday all the way through Pac-12 After Dark.

Anyway, nothing was more rewarding than having a Heisman hopeful dominate the college ranks. The game itself has also evolved over the years, which makes this more intriguing as well. Whether it be the various game-day traditions or the implementation of turnover chains, if it’s in the game it should be in the game. Still, the truth is it’s not all sunshine and roses. Anyone who has played Madden over the last several years should understand EA isn’t going to make a sequel to the ever-popular NCAA Football 14 and have it be an absolute hit at this point. Madden has taken a step back in some years and it would be hard not to assume that would trickle into an NCAA game. However, EA wouldn’t be the only company capable of making such a game. Imagine an NCAA game with 2K gameplay and presentation. Now that could have the potential to be a Heisman Trophy winner. In the end, the more football video games on the market the better — and the more NCAA games in general the better. After years of making money off of player likenesses, things are finally taking a step in the right direction. Here’s hoping for an NCAA Football 2021 and NCAA Football 2K because it’s what the fans and players deserve.

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TJ Henderson: Before the 2016 College Football Playoff National Championship, the EA Sports NCAA Football account (which had been dormant for almost two years) posted this video. Shortly thereafter, EA had to clarify that it was not a return announcement. The reaction to that video for many was the equivalent of seeing a loved one show signs of life after being in a decade-long coma. I was heartbroken all over again. Absolutely nothing in the world of sports gaming matched my passion for college games. Collectively, they may hold the record for most hours logged in my gaming life, even without them being around in the last few years. I can only imagine that there are developers at these studios who have felt that same passion burning, and I hope that translates into something truly special if and when they get to bring these games back to life.

In addition to the heavyweights making a return, I would also love if the new model proved accessible for smaller developers to get involved, perhaps to tackle other sports. Softball, wrestling, track and field, and more have their own rich histories in college athletics. If we’re returning to this wonderland, then I want to see some real niche stuff eventually happening. That said, even if we only get the big guns back, the NCAA breaking their stance on this is a miracle in and of itself. Whatever we get from here on out is frankly in territory I wasn’t sure we would ever see. If (when) a new NCAA Football and College Hoops are announced, I might be filed as a missing person after release day.

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  1. At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly . 
    howboutdat
    At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly .*

    Exactly this. My excitement for this news is lukewarm, because I don't have much trust that EA will put out a college game that is as good as it SHOULD be.
    howboutdat
    At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly .*

    I don't know. IN my opinion on the ps3/xbox360 NCAA Football was always better than Madden. on the ps2 the NCAA Football game was on par with Madden at the time. Ill even say NCAA Football has been better than Madden since the 07 release.
    These are two different development teams I assume. so I have faith that the same quality for the NCAA title will carry through to the next gen release, if we ever get one.
    with all this said I doubt that we'll see a NCAA title in ay sport for at least 5 years. player likeliness is only one issue.
    Now they have to figure out how to set up a pay scale, for players and schools, and how that translates to merchandise, video games etc.
    this news still makes thing complex, unless these developers just incorporate the schools in games without player likeliness.
    howboutdat
    At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly .*

    Man, too true. We should be tempering our expectations for any future NCAA game based on how good Madden 20 was, and not how good NCAA 14 was.
    "Welcome to NCAA 22. What Dynasty Mode? You guys are going to pay us millions for virtual trading cards and NCAA UT mode."
    I'm very excited, can't wait. I hope they make not only football but basketball and baseball and even hockey. I would buy all those games. People worried about EA, who is to say 2k won't jump back in? They did have a college hoops game at the end.
    howboutdat
    At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly .*

    Geez, Debbie Downer over here. Assuming NCAA 22 is the target date (PS5), we're talking 8 years without a new NCAA game, if that doesn't get you excited then just stick with NCAA 14 and PS3 graphics.
    I'm pretty excited. The fun for me is playing matchups that will never happen in college football's regular season like Alabama (Roll Tide!) vs. Baylor, and fun things like that. Seeing the different stadiums is fun too. I don't get into Madden-bashing because it suits my needs just fine, although admittedly it feels mostly the same year after year. I'm happy, if it happens.
    Balldude777
    Geez, Debbie Downer over here. Assuming NCAA 22 is the target date (PS5), we're talking 8 years without a new NCAA game, if that doesn't get you excited then just stick with NCAA 14 and PS3 graphics.

    ....so the draw here is the graphics? No wonder EA can continue to pump out crap and people eat it up.
    "Yeah, the game will probably be crap, but at least it has updated graphics!"
    I'm super excited and here is why; when the NCAA series got cancelled it was disappointing because that was/is my favorite game series of all-time bar none. But not only that....it also impacted how I felt about Madden from that point forward as well. For the longest, I looked at those 2 titles as one. You get NCAA in July, play dynasty mode, get you some draft classes ready and then Madden hits in August. Import those draft classes and the two games work together. But, once NCAA was taken away, playing Madden wasn't the same. Playing video games period haven't been the same. Heck, it's the reason I still play NCAA 14 to this day; the reason why I went and bought 10, 11 and 12 two months ago.
    So, getting my favorite title back in whatever form or fashion has me lit!
    Yea... im pretty f****'in excited
    I also have faith in Haumiller and Rex if they're back at the helm of it. They were always reliable on the franchise, they just didnt have the resources yet for a lot of things we wished. And it sounded like they were gonna give us a lot if College Football 15 was a thing on X1 and PS4
    Man...really really really hoping NCAA games come back!!
    I had so much fun building Purdue into a powerhouse in the early 2000s (something that can only be done in a video game...hah) ---- always found the college games to be more fun from a Dynasty point of view compared to Madden.
    Fingers Crossed!!!!!!!
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    mattjames2010
    ....so the draw here is the graphics? No wonder EA can continue to pump out crap and people eat it up.
    "Yeah, the game will probably be crap, but at least it has updated graphics!"

    Obviously there will be other gameplay improvements. I still play NCAA 14 myself but don't kid yourself if you think that its gameplay holds up with Madden's now. Think about all the new catch animations, running/QB animations, Blocking/Tackling animations that have been added since then. I could go on, my point is the gameplay will be WAY better than the option now. Not to mention College Football has implemented a Playoff since!
    So to answer your question yes, I am looking forward to the new graphics of a college football game. But to answer your assumption, no it is not the only thing I look forward to.
    I'm not a big fan of college sports, but I do welcome them back to gaming only if 2K and EA can get their acts together. This was a disappointing year for football and basketball in terms of stepping up their game.
    howboutdat
    At the end of the day , the same suits who have messed Madden up over the last decade will be in charge of funds for this game too. Just keep that in mind before you get too excited to only be let down majorly .*

    You would have to totally bomb this game for this community to be let down for a new game after 8-9 years.
    if we do get another ncaa game i hope its its own team and diffrent group making it cuz if they just take madden and make it college it will have the same issues and sux like madden thats the thing that made ncaa better and diffrent it wasnt a madden clone
    I am definitely excited for the prospect of a new NCAA game. I don't play Madden so have no clue what that is like, but I have spent time with NCAA 10 through 14 and have to believe some updated gameplay along with a Dynasty mode that at least matches what we had in those iterations would work for me.
    I'd combine the physics engine from 14 along with the way 12 felt playing (I know that is a weird comparison), the recruiting of 13 and the stadium/game day atmosphere of 10 through 12 and that would be the perfect game for me
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    Balldude777
    Obviously there will be other gameplay improvements. I still play NCAA 14 myself but don't kid yourself if you think that its gameplay holds up with Madden's now. Think about all the new catch animations, running/QB animations, Blocking/Tackling animations that have been added since then. I could go on, my point is the gameplay will be WAY better than the option now. Not to mention College Football has implemented a Playoff since!
    So to answer your question yes, I am looking forward to the new graphics of a college football game. But to answer your assumption, no it is not the only thing I look forward to.

    I've played NCAA 14 recently and played Madden 20. There is more scripted parts in Madden 20, the AI for QBs have gotten worse, gang tackling/angles are still poor, and franchise mode STILL has wonky sim stats....this has been a freakin' problem since PS2 Madden.
    This isn't even getting into the fact that NCAA 14 already gutted a lot of what people loved about the PS2 gen NCAA games. And Madden still hasn't added in things they removed from PS2 gen.
    EA has always been a complete mixed bag in terms of what they add and subtract - too much good/bad adding/removed. It's never a solid progression and more of a sidestep. A continuous cycle.
    Balldude777
    Obviously there will be other gameplay improvements. I still play NCAA 14 myself but don't kid yourself if you think that its gameplay holds up with Madden's now. Think about all the new catch animations, running/QB animations, Blocking/Tackling animations that have been added since then. I could go on, my point is the gameplay will be WAY better than the option now. Not to mention College Football has implemented a Playoff since!
    So to answer your question yes, I am looking forward to the new graphics of a college football game. But to answer your assumption, no it is not the only thing I look forward to.

    Gameplay in NCAA 14 is better than current Madden is. I would want exactly ZERO madden code in any new game.
    What would be a perfect game in your guys' eyes? If the perfect game hit some of you over the head with a boat paddle, some of you would still bitch about something. 
    mikeq672
    Gameplay in NCAA 14 is better than current Madden is. I would want exactly ZERO madden code in any new game.

    Gameplay in 14 was still bad. No actual physics in the game so size and weight didn’t play a factor. Ball carriers seemed to always fall forward unless on the receiving end of a big hit, which could come from someone a third their size. Option defense was bad, pass coverage was REALLY bad, run fits were non existent and allowed huge running lanes, but it was still hard to run inside as you could trip over your blockers way too easily, the list goes on.
    The gameplay of 14 was not very good at all. I really don’t understand why we try to point to it as the gold standard of NCAA games. As long as they stick with this animation driven nonsense rather than some actual physics like we’ve seen in other football games, it will still have this same broken feel imo.
    Personally, I have zero faith in anything put out by EA Tiburon. Really hope they aren’t the ones jumping on the college game first.
    I would be very excited for this to come back. As an offline player, I get a ton of game time out of Dynasty Mode. The NFL is such a boring product because everything is the same that I rarely get to year three or four of a franchise. With NCAA, I get 10-15 years deep in Dynasty before starting a new one.
    Of course there will be microtransactions, but anyone using that as a reason to downplay the return is not seeing the forest for all of the trees. Or they just want to be negative.
    If it comes to PC I can fix most everything I'll have an issue with on the field. Features off of the field, though, that's a whole other ballgame where EA is struggling big time with Madden.
    It was touched on but IMO College Hoops 2k8 was the absolute pinnacle of sports gaming. There are things that game did (coach career, carousel, diff broadcasts/packages) that I absolutely miss. People still talk about NCAA 14 and for good reason but I, for one, really hope this marks the return of College Hoops. Being able to make a MyPlayer in CH and take them into 2k would just be...words can't even describe how good that would be haha.
    scagwi
    Just think of the micro transaction opportunities here guys!

    They could make a fortune having all of Oregon's different uniforms as $$ DLC in the game.... they use like 14 different combos each season
    While I'm excited for the possible return of NCAA Football, I have my excitement in check. Until we start hearing about the compensation models NCAA is proposing and hear rumors/reports that EA has approached NCAA about reaquiring the license, then I want to keep my hopes in check. But I do think the could get core group of developers back on the game. Ben Haumiller and Christian McCloud still works on Madden and Rex Dickson has said on twitter he would be very interested to get back to working on NCAA Football. For us, it would be important for the developers to get same level of creative Freedom as before. We all know Madden gets controlled by marketing and higher ups. I feel like as long as NCAA broke even and kept status quo, they had the creative freedom.
    For me, as long as they can pick up where they left off in NCAA 14(as far as modes) or not turn into Madden lite, I would buy day 1 with no hesitation. I've never said that about Madden. NCAA has so much more replayability for me. I'm a person where once I win a title and/or my team gets dominant, honestly I start losing interest. But with roster turnover and recruiting, you always got to think 1-2 years ahead. And that gives you something to play for. In a game like Madden, your roster can look and feel the same because of contracts and draft/FA. But with NCAA, your roster will look different every 2-3 years and you have to plan ahead especially if someone might declare early or transfer. Like when I get to year 9(6th year with current team), i can lose up to 8 players on offense and only of those players is a OL. My offense would look completely different, and I'm looking forward to adapting to it
    The possibility of a new NCAA game is exciting. As others have mentioned though, we need to check our expectations at the door. For one we are likely at minimum 2 years before a new game (which itself might be an ambitious prediction). Second, the sports gaming industry has changed a lot since NCAA 14. Back then we were still in the early stages of micro transactions. Regardless of what team has control of a new game, the higher ups will drive the flow of design, much like they do with madden and fifa.
    I want a new NCAA game, but I'm concerned what it will look like.
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    KSUowls
    The possibility of a new NCAA game is exciting. As others have mentioned though, we need to check our expectations at the door. For one we are likely at minimum 2 years before a new game (which itself might be an ambitious prediction). Second, the sports gaming industry has changed a lot since NCAA 14. Back then we were still in the early stages of micro transactions. Regardless of what team has control of a new game, the higher ups will drive the flow of design, much like they do with madden and fifa.
    I want a new NCAA game, but I'm concerned what it will look like.
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    I could see them using micro transactions for something like a UT mode using college stars of the past or throw back uniforms, and maybe even sponsorships in Dynasty mode.And I would be ok with those type of micro transactions if it helps add resources to the game
    The Black Redneck
    I could see them using micro transactions for something like a UT mode using college stars of the past or throw back uniforms, and maybe even sponsorships in Dynasty mode.And I would be ok with those type of micro transactions if it helps add resources to the game

    I see how we can think it could help add resources. But if you look at it, it appears most of added "resources" goes to Career mode cinematics. Look at FIFA's The Journey, NBA2k My Career, Madden's Longshot/FotF, thats where most of the bonus revenue has gone. They already kind of started microtransactions in NCAA 14 with those Dynasty packs and uniform store along with UT. I just don't want next game to go heavy with microtransactions.
    They’ll put a new game out 2022-23. Have to wait for the NCAA to get all the new bylaws written. Man can’t for college sports to be back. Hopefully we’ll get a college baseball also.
    The Black Redneck
    I could see them using micro transactions for something like a UT mode using college stars of the past or throw back uniforms, and maybe even sponsorships in Dynasty mode.And I would be ok with those type of micro transactions if it helps add resources to the game
    Unfortunately what seems to happen is that these microtransaction 'features' end up perpetuating the need for those features. Instead of enhancements to for instance the dynasty mode, the focus ends up being on these other aspects which create the ongoing revenue streams so that those revenue generators are more appealing
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    mikeq672
    Gameplay in NCAA 14 is better than current Madden is. I would want exactly ZERO madden code in any new game.

    Disagree completely. Gameplay wise they've made major strides. Not too worried about that.
    They do need a dynasty mode that is at least as good as the one they had and hopefully better. Some people might put up with Madden's awful franchise mode but they won't for NCAA. The fun of recruiting and building a program is one of the main reason people were able to overlook a lot of gameplay stuff for so long while criticizing Madden.
    NYJets
    Disagree completely. Gameplay wise they've made major strides. Not too worried about that.
    They do need a dynasty mode that is at least as good as the one they had and hopefully better. Some people might put up with Madden's awful franchise mode but they won't for NCAA. The fun of recruiting and building a program is one of the main reason people were able to overlook a lot of gameplay stuff for so long while criticizing Madden.

    NCAA's dynasty mode really wasn't that deep, though. It's just the college game translates to a better video game experience.
    There wasn't much off-field management. There was no chemistry or morale system. There was absolutely zero interactivity for progressing players like there were in the older games or there even is now in Madden. The recruiting was streamlined to the point of being about as vanilla as it could be.
    The charm of the game was the fact that you still did get to recruit, see constant roster turnover, the schematic variety was crazy especially compared to an NFL game, and the coaching carousel made things somewhat fresh.
    There is probably less than a 1% chance the next NCAA game will lack a dynasty mode and it is probably less than 1% chance it will lack recruiting. So when the game is just a reskinned Madden with the gameplay tuned to be more wide open like it always was, then it will probably still have the charm that Madden just can never get thanks to the recruiting side of the game, the constant roster turnover, and the schematic variety.
    NCAA 14 was still a very barebones game that lacked any real depth. The recruiting was so simple and boring. The coach carousel was as basic as it gets, but the college game just comes with that certain charm that makes up for all of that.
    I don't expect the next NCAA to be any more in-depth than what CFM in Madden is anymore, but neither was NCAA 14 and it still was tons of fun thanks to the aforementioned reasons. It'll likely be more similar to being as vanilla as NCAA 14's dynasty mode than not, but that is probably more than enough for most people right now. So many are hungry for a CFB game that they forget how tired people were getting of the lackluster dynasty mode back when the series was alive.
    canes21
    NCAA's dynasty mode really wasn't that deep, though. It's just the college game translates to a better video game experience.
    There wasn't much off-field management. There was no chemistry or morale system. There was absolutely zero interactivity for progressing players like there were in the older games or there even is now in Madden. The recruiting was streamlined to the point of being about as vanilla as it could be.
    The charm of the game was the fact that you still did get to recruit, see constant roster turnover, the schematic variety was crazy especially compared to an NFL game, and the coaching carousel made things somewhat fresh.
    There is probably less than a 1% chance the next NCAA game will lack a dynasty mode and it is probably less than 1% chance it will lack recruiting. So when the game is just a reskinned Madden with the gameplay tuned to be more wide open like it always was, then it will probably still have the charm that Madden just can never get thanks to the recruiting side of the game, the constant roster turnover, and the schematic variety.
    NCAA 14 was still a very barebones game that lacked any real depth. The recruiting was so simple and boring. The coach carousel was as basic as it gets, but the college game just comes with that certain charm that makes up for all of that.
    I don't expect the next NCAA to be any more in-depth than what CFM in Madden is anymore, but neither was NCAA 14 and it still was tons of fun thanks to the aforementioned reasons. It'll likely be more similar to being as vanilla as NCAA 14's dynasty mode than not, but that is probably more than enough for most people right now. So many are hungry for a CFB game that they forget how tired people were getting of the lackluster dynasty mode back when the series was alive.

    I do agree with NCAA 14 dynasty not being as deep as it is claimed. While I'm having fun with NCAA 14, it is barebones. It is just the allure of recruiting, roster turnover, and Coach Carousel. When I got the game last month, I quickly realized that I didn't play dynasty in 14. I must have only played RTG before I traded it in first time around. I didn't know they streamlined recruiting. They took the Madden "12 year old" approach and dumbed things down. There could have been a lot more off the field interactions along with picking coordinators. I like the idea of Coach Carousel, but they could have done a lot more.
    We'll get the traditional Dynasty mode and RTG/career mode in possible future game. It just depends on if the streamlined approach. I get you want casuals not being overwhelmed-, but you push away hardcore fans when you streamline. Thats why sliders/options are important to balance out hardcores who want depth and casuals who want it simple
    illwill10
    I do agree with NCAA 14 dynasty not being as deep as it is claimed. While I'm having fun with NCAA 14, it is barebones. It is just the allure of recruiting, roster turnover, and Coach Carousel. When I got the game last month, I quickly realized that I didn't play dynasty in 14. I must have only played RTG before I traded it in first time around. I didn't know they streamlined recruiting. They took the Madden "12 year old" approach and dumbed things down. There could have been a lot more off the field interactions along with picking coordinators. I like the idea of Coach Carousel, but they could have done a lot more.
    We'll get the traditional Dynasty mode and RTG/career mode in possible future game. It just depends on if the streamlined approach. I get you want casuals not being overwhelmed-, but you push away hardcore fans when you streamline. Thats why sliders/options are important to balance out hardcores who want depth and casuals who want it simple

    It was never too deep, but you could actually call the prospect and pick the topics to talk about. It wasn't that great, but recruiting in NCAA 14 is too simple and easy. You literally are just allocating points and that is it. You're omnipotent with everything as well. You know exactly how much of a lead you have, when they are visiting anywhere, and that de-commits do not even exist.
    I doubt it will happen, but when the series returns I would love to see recruiting really fleshed out. I don't want to know if I am first or not on most recruits because most coaches don't know. You'll generally know if you have a legit chance, but you don't get told anything quantitative as it represented in the game. I'd like to see de-commits happen, have unofficial visits, have it to where academics are taken into account, have it to where recruits can visit a school and it not be known by everyone. Silent commits, and so much more.
    I won't cross my fingers for any of that to happen. Based off of Madden and how CFM is, I'd expect dynasty mode and recruiting to be about the same as it is in NCAA 14 except with scouting just being done a bit differently and the coach carousel probably being more fleshed out and basically being like NHL's.
    Junior Moe
    The most exciting thing to me is that we have gone from the door being slammed closed and locked, to now where the door is open provided the necessary pieces fall in order.
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    I would say the door is slightly cracked open. This was a big domino that fell, but more is needed. EA wants to get back into business and masses want to see a return of the game. The ball is still NCAA's court. I think the next domino to fall is continued pressure from states to continue legislature. That way NCAA can't delay this. Then once we start hearing NCAA's proposed compensation models, that's when we should start getting excited. Then EA, NCAA, and NFPA can come together to talk appropriate compensation
    I'll be excited when the game is released, and even then my excitement probably won't last too long when we all realize how bad it is. EA's MVP business model does not give me a ton of hope. We'll either get a re-skinned Madden or a port of NCAA '14. I'd honestly prefer the latter, so maybe that's something?
    I'd be slightly more excited about 2K and college hoops, but I don't even know if that will ever happen. EA might purchase an exclusive license again.
    Speaking of licenses, due to the changes with the CLC, we don't even know what licenses we may or may not get in a college game. Perhaps we have to prepare for a "Columbus State" or a "Large 14" conference.
    I purchased NCAA 14 and been playing it on the 360 and I just have to say I forgot how great this game was.
    I'm very excited with the new rule changes happening, it's 2019 people, times are different then 20 years ago, it's about time the NCAA caught up.
    In the meantime, I'd just be happy with an upgraded 14 with 4K quality and backwards compatible.
    MrOctober430
    I purchased NCAA 14 and been playing it on the 360 and I just have to say I forgot how great this game was.
    I'm very excited with the new rule changes happening, it's 2019 people, times are different then 20 years ago, it's about time the NCAA caught up.
    In the meantime, I'd just be happy with an upgraded 14 with 4K quality and backwards compatible.

    As much as I would like it to be BC, I just don't it will get the okay. Probably would need a few things changed up, like roster and roster share. I would just be happy with higher resolutions. But Xbox said their not looking to expand BC library until next gen.
    I’m really excited about a possible new NCAA game but I do have 1 question regarding the game and wonder what some other folks think. I help run a 32 man Madden League and we’ve discussed it in my group but would the NCAA game consider having a 32 man Online Dynasty Mode like Madden or would it likely be 12-16 again. A 28 (if they wanna limit it to 2 possible full conferences) or 40 man (for a possible 3) Online Dynasty would be fun as helk to do Recruiting in. 28 or 32 like Madden would be cool in my opinion.
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    Who knows. They've been all over the place with their online leagues. NCAA only allowed 12. Madden allows 32. NHL allowed 750 users. Yes, 750.
    I'd love to basically have it be unlimited like GM Connected was, but I doubt EA will find it to be worth the effort to be much more than 20-30 at most.
    canes21
    Who knows. They've been all over the place with their online leagues. NCAA only allowed 12. Madden allows 32. NHL allowed 750 users. Yes, 750.
    I'd love to basically have it be unlimited like GM Connected was, but I doubt EA will find it to be worth the effort to be much more than 20-30 at most.

    I wouldn’t want the whole 130 team Dynasty to be User controlled. It’s hard finding 32 guys who stick it out and play their games on Madden when they’re a 5 Win team. On NCAA you’d have a bunch of those type teams. 30 would be awesome, I just hope we get more than 12 cause since the possibility of this game coming back has come up I’ve have atleast 30 friends who’ve asked me if I’d run a league
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    NolesFanatic17
    I wouldn’t want the whole 130 team Dynasty to be User controlled. It’s hard finding 32 guys who stick it out and play their games on Madden when they’re a 5 Win team. On NCAA you’d have a bunch of those type teams. 30 would be awesome, I just hope we get more than 12 cause since the possibility of this game coming back has come up I’ve have atleast 30 friends who’ve asked me if I’d run a league
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    I'm all for it allowing 130 users. If you don't want 130 users then don't have 130 users. I am all for options as long as they are not halfway done.
    I really hope they did thing right. Build off of NCAA14 and go frm there they have the game play some what but it's a place to build without things looking crazy But with what the Mods have done it should be easy on EA to make this happen with all the resources they seem to have but don't use. I hoping for the best..
    PackerScooter
    I'm pretty excited. The fun for me is playing matchups that will never happen in college football's regular season like Alabama (Roll Tide!) vs. Baylor, and fun things like that. Seeing the different stadiums is fun too. I don't get into Madden-bashing because it suits my needs just fine, although admittedly it feels mostly the same year after year. I'm happy, if it happens.

    I don't know... at the rate the current CFP picture is shaping up, you just might get your wish at this year's Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl :cavalry::wedgie::grin:
    PackerScooter
    I'm pretty excited. The fun for me is playing matchups that will never happen in college football's season like Alabama (Roll Tide!) vs. Baylor, and fun things like that. Seeing the different stadiums is fun too. I don't get into Madden-bashing because it suits my needs just fine, although admittedly it feels mostly the same year after year. I'm happy, if it happens.

    igolfbad
    I don't know... at the rate the current CFP picture is shaping up, you just might get your wish at this year's Academy Sports + Outdoors Texas Bowl
    lol
    that's still not a regular season matchup lol
    Caulfield
    lol
    that's still not a regular season matchup lol

    True, but then Alabama isn't one to take on a Top 25 out of conference opponent onto their regular season schedule. We're about to see how well that worked for them. lol
    igolfbad
    True, but then Alabama isn't one to take on a Top 25 out of conference opponent onto their regular season schedule. We're about to see how well that worked for them. lol
    They tend to try with their neutral site openers. USC in 2016 and 2020; FSU in 2017. Those games are scheduled in advance. There's only so much they can do about it...
    If we're doing wishlist stuff, I'd like 100 player rosters and realistic sim stats/gameplay for the option offenses in the sense of fullbacks getting more distribution.
    Though I don't actually think we'll have the game back soon...
    Useful checklist:
    https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/11/19/20959871/ncaa-football-video-game-return
    mattjames2010
    ....so the draw here is the graphics? No wonder EA can continue to pump out crap and people eat it up.
    "Yeah, the game will probably be crap, but at least it has updated graphics!"

    You realize you are bad mouthing a game that may not even be made? And if a new college football game is made who to say EA will even want to do it or that EA will be the only ones to do it?
    I would very much like to see a new NCAA Football game. However, my fear is that if EA makes the game, they will mess up a new college game the way they did Madden. Madden used to be a lot better game. Now that they have gone to roster updates each year and wanting people to buy into ultimate team, who needs Madden.
    From what I've read, and from playing NCAA online a few years back, people would try to quit or try to get you to quit if they started losing. From some comments I've read, EA never addressed that. I also am not buying a game for 60 or 100 bucks and putting another 200 or so into that game. When you pay that much, those games should be complete.
    I do have some hope that maybe in a couple of years maximum football will be decent. But that game was an enormous disappointment for me. I actually went and bought a used PS3. And have been playing NCAA 13. Paid 4 bucks for NCAA 13. Even ordered a backup copy in case prices go up like for 14, and in case something happens to my disc. Also even have NCAA basketball 08 and 09 comes in today.
    Hopefully in a year or 2 maximum will be better. But if not, I guess the PS3 will have to do.
    nofx94
    They tend to try with their neutral site openers. USC in 2016 and 2020; FSU in 2017. Those games are scheduled in advance. There's only so much they can do about it...
    If we're doing wishlist stuff, I'd like 100 player rosters and realistic sim stats/gameplay for the option offenses in the sense of fullbacks getting more distribution.
    Though I don't actually think we'll have the game back soon...
    Useful checklist:
    https://www.bannersociety.com/2019/11/19/20959871/ncaa-football-video-game-return

    Never too early for a wishlist!!
    -100 player roster would be great, at least 85
    -Get rid of TeamBuilder, put more into dynasty mode (recruiting, asst coaches, future scheduling)
    -Uniform combinations (as many as possible)
    -Varying offseason improvements based on potential and work ethic or disciplie rating, not the standard +5
    -X factors like madden (or something similar)
    -Have coaching matter more in-game
    -Gameplay update--obviously
    AKEjcl41
    Never too early for a wishlist!!
    -100 player roster would be great, at least 85
    -Get rid of TeamBuilder, put more into dynasty mode (recruiting, asst coaches, future scheduling)
    -Uniform combinations (as many as possible)
    -Varying offseason improvements based on potential and work ethic or disciplie rating, not the standard +5
    -X factors like madden (or something similar)
    -Have coaching matter more in-game
    -Gameplay update--obviously

    Why get rid of teambuilder? :confused:
    Things got real quiet after the initial NCAA announcement, but I expected that. Until we start hearing how/if NCAA will approach compensation and start hearing about EA and NCAA in talks, its best to keep our excitement in check. EA has shown that they want to get back in the NCAA boat. But the ball is the NCAA hands. One thing that could help the cause is if they allow NCAA 14 to be BC next generation. If they allow former NCAA games to be BC on next generation, then that would show that NCAA and EA are wlling to allow the return of NCAA games.
    premier
    Why get rid of teambuilder? :confused:

    Just my opinion. I would rather see better depth for dynasty mode for the real teams. Maybe that means add FCS teams and get uniforms correct or make them able to be edited if we want, that way TeamBuilder teams aren't really needed. Like i said, just my opinion.
    illwill10
    Things got real quiet after the initial NCAA announcement, but I expected that. Until we start hearing how/if NCAA will approach compensation and start hearing about EA and NCAA in talks, its best to keep our excitement in check. EA has shown that they want to get back in the NCAA boat. But the ball is the NCAA hands. One thing that could help the cause is if they allow NCAA 14 to be BC next generation. If they allow former NCAA games to be BC on next generation, then that would show that NCAA and EA are wlling to allow the return of NCAA games.
    I think they'll have quite an easy time making a deal with the NCAA. the problem is there is no one single union that has sole rights to bargain for all student-athletes. the one out of UCLA may be the biggest and most powerful, but it still doesn't legally represent all players. just anyone who chooses to join. and EA wont risk another lawsuit until they have someone to deal with that officially represents and can speak and bargain for all athletes, not just the ones who join. and I dont see any entity being able to attain that authority. so right now for all intents and purposes an NCAAF/B game is still closer to pipe-dream than reality.
    Caulfield
    I think they'll have quite an easy time making a deal with the NCAA. the problem is there is no one single union that has sole rights to bargain for all student-athletes. the one out of UCLA may be the biggest and most powerful, but it still doesn't legally represent all players. just anyone who chooses to join. and EA wont risk another lawsuit until they have someone to deal with that officially represents and can speak and bargain for all athletes, not just the ones who join. and I dont see any entity being able to attain that authority. so right now for all intents and purposes an NCAAF/B game is still closer to pipe-dream than reality.

    There were reports that NFLPA was looking to partner with College Players Association to assist in deals concerning with compensation. So that would apply to video games. I'm sure NFLPA would insist that all players take equal deals.
    But I do feel it is still a long shot to happen. Still so many things to check off the list before this becomes a reality.
    djp73

    excited for them to come back for sure, scared they'll ruin what they had with ncaa14

    I don’t understand what people thought they had with NCAA 14. You had a game with zero physics, awful pass coverage, broken option defense, i mean the list goes on. There’s a reason why Tiburon scrapped that engine and went on to overhaul several aspects of that game with Madden. I’ll never understand why 14 is held in some sort of high regard when it comes to gameplay.
    I’m as excited as anyone to see what NCAA games can become, but the idea of it being anything close to 14 makes me nervous. Although I’m not sure I’d want it anywhere close to M20 either. I hope it somehow gets taken in a completely different direction.
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    Here's a tweet about how Emmert feels
    "On the NCAA video game: NCAA president Mark Emmert said he is open to bringing it back, but would need 1. assurances that no more lawsuits would be filed, 2. a group license deal that gives students a voice 3. without giving them a union and making them employees. #aspensportslab"
    Which does kind of sound reassuring that both sides does seem interested in a return. If those are the 3 main things, then it does seem plausible. I can see NCAA not wanting Roster Share in new game. If they will/could have real NIL, there wouldn't be a huge need for it. As long as they have offline roster editing and ability download offline roster files, I'm okay with no Roster Share. With number 2, hopefully NFLPA does partner up with Colleges Players Association that way they can help with negotiating a group licensing deal.
    So it does seem realistic if both sides seem interested. So hopefully it can come to fruition. Emmert says thats the number one question he is always asked. So he knows that fans and athletes wants the game back. His primary concern is not wanting lawsuits. That's always a tricky to avoid. Thats why I think they might want to ban Roster Share. My main doubt is that NCAA hasn't truly shown that they are okay with compensation. Its like they are trying to find every excuse to not allow it rather than come up with ways to allow it. Still urging states to not going along with legislature and worrying if they will bring it to the white house.
    xCoachDx
    I don’t understand what people thought they had with NCAA 14. You had a game with zero physics, awful pass coverage, broken option defense, i mean the list goes on. There’s a reason why Tiburon scrapped that engine and went on to overhaul several aspects of that game with Madden. I’ll never understand why 14 is held in some sort of high regard when it comes to gameplay.
    I’m as excited as anyone to see what NCAA games can become, but the idea of it being anything close to 14 makes me nervous. Although I’m not sure I’d want it anywhere close to M20 either. I hope it somehow gets taken in a completely different direction.
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    While I am enjoying 14 the past few months I had it, I do feel it was put on pedestal. The main allure of 14 was that it was the final game of series. But I wouldn't want it to directly follow NCAA 14, I just want it to keep the core aspect of NCAA. The main thing that people love is recruiting. With college, you always have to plan for future.
    But yeah, gameplay is far from perfect. While Madden isn't a great example, it has improved in gameplay. Hitsticks barely work and feel soft compared to what Madden has. But like Madden, ball carriers don't use ball carrier moves. Height and SPC doesn't matter for WR. I rarely see those flashy catches and can't throw those 50/50 balls. Option defense is terrible. You have to manually control LBs/DBs on read options because defenders don't really cover QBs. Then you have statue QBs running non stop read options and being able to shed tackles at will. There's always a bad animation you see once in a while on certain plays. Where if you don't run Cover 2 and the offense as a outside WR runs a streak, your CB does a weird animation where he moves towards the middle of field causing WR to get wide open as the CB tries to get back in coverage. It's almost a guaranteed TD. Poor Clock management. But the biggest thing for me is that I never have to account for opposing best players. I have no fear against elite skill positions. Since RBs don't use special moves, I don't even scout opposing RBs. I don't bother with looking at WRs. CPU isn't intelligent enough to put playmakers into situations to succeed. At most, all I look at QB speed. CPU QB will scramble 90% of time when you are in Man Coverage if there first read isn't open. AI blockers terrible at letting players rush freely. List goes on and on
    If it is to come back, they need to work on some things. Improved Gameplay, Physics(height mattering), less streamlined approach to recruiting, and improved AI. Improved AI is some thing I want all games to have. There needs to be a challenge against CPU in Dynasty along with improved play calling.
    For those of us that are now a little bit older, it would definitely still mean a lot. When NCAA Football games were stopped being made, I basically stopped playing video games, and I was still in college at the time. I'm now in my mid to late 20s, and I would immediately buy a console and buy NCAA Football if it were to be made again.
    Too many memories were made playing the game.
    IUxHOOSIERS
    For those of us that are now a little bit older, it would definitely still mean a lot. When NCAA Football games were stopped being made, I basically stopped playing video games, and I was still in college at the time. I'm now in my mid to late 20s, and I would immediately buy a console and buy NCAA Football if it were to be made again.
    Too many memories were made playing the game.

    I stopped watching college football once NCAA went away. I used to watch CFB faithfully when we had NCAA. But, I haven't had the same interest. I didn't play a football game for 3 years after NCAA 14. I still can't get into Madden.
    Back in my high school days, I bought all the old ps2 versions. I still feel the PS2 in general is the golden era of gaming. Back when games were primarily focused on offline. I would love for NCAA to come back. I always want to buy Madden past 3 years. But after renting it for past 3 years, I can't force myself to do it and quickly return it. But with NCAA, I wouldn't hesitate to get it.
    illwill10
    I stopped watching college football once NCAA went away. I used to watch CFB faithfully when we had NCAA. But, I haven't had the same interest. I didn't play a football game for 3 years after NCAA 14. I still can't get into Madden.
    Back in my high school days, I bought all the old ps2 versions. I still feel the PS2 in general is the golden era of gaming. Back when games were primarily focused on offline. I would love for NCAA to come back. I always want to buy Madden past 3 years. But after renting it for past 3 years, I can't force myself to do it and quickly return it. But with NCAA, I wouldn't hesitate to get it.

    Agreed on the watching aspect of NCAA Football. Not only that, but just knowing players on teams from a personnel perspective. When NCAA Football games were still out, I would scroll through every team and put players' names with the school they were at in my head. I knew which teams had good D-Tackles, or which random school had a good safety on their team. Now I couldn't tell you anything about that without an NCAA Football game.
    I agree with the statement above. Honestly, I feel that the NCAA and teams have lost a bit of something by not having a game. I used to know so many players just based on playing the game, but now, I could not tell you hardly anyone outside of the teams that I follow.
    I remember learning about schools and watching them based on this series. I guess what I am saying is that is was marketing tool that may not have been viewed as such.
    IUxHOOSIERS
    Agreed on the watching aspect of NCAA Football. Not only that, but just knowing players on teams from a personnel perspective. When NCAA Football games were still out, I would scroll through every team and put players' names with the school they were at in my head. I knew which teams had good D-Tackles, or which random school had a good safety on their team. Now I couldn't tell you anything about that without an NCAA Football game.

    goillini03
    I agree with the statement above. Honestly, I feel that the NCAA and teams have lost a bit of something by not having a game. I used to know so many players just based on playing the game, but now, I could not tell you hardly anyone outside of the teams that I follow.
    I remember learning about schools and watching them based on this series. I guess what I am saying is that is was marketing tool that may not have been viewed as such.

    I agreed. I used to know a good portion of players on most teams. Now on most teams, I couldn't tell name one player because I don't have that interest to follow CFB like I use too.
    You have guys like Saquan saying that they grew up playing NCAA and how he missed out on being in the game. Players knew they were in the game. Most didn't care because that's a dream for most kids growing up. NCAA games were a good marketing tool. Kids grow up playing it is good promotion for the NCAA.
    Hopefully it leads to a return. You have players and fans consistently talking to NCAA about a return of series. You have EA guys like Haumiller liking official posts about NCAA game related posts on Twitter. EA has shown that they want to go back to making it. With the interest and time apart, they know they can at least make the same amount of revenue as they did in the past with a return. NCAA knows that people want the game back. Its up to the NCAA at this point to be truly be willing to allow a return and EA to be willing to accept the terms NCAA demands.
    I very much acknowledge the disappointment that Madden is from year to year, but I also remember always preferring NCAA to Madden in the past anyway. The specific team that did NCAA wasn't exactly the same and imo they did a better job. Maybe some aspects make it easier to do college rather than NFL. Whatever the case, the instant NCAA football is announced as returning I'm running to Origin and preordering
    FedExPope
    I very much acknowledge the disappointment that Madden is from year to year, but I also remember always preferring NCAA to Madden in the past anyway. The specific team that did NCAA wasn't exactly the same and imo they did a better job. Maybe some aspects make it easier to do college rather than NFL. Whatever the case, the instant NCAA football is announced as returning I'm running to Origin and preordering

    NCAA always felt like it had more creative freedom compared to Madden. Even Rex Dickson said how with Madden the higher ups and Marketing had say of how game is developed. Saying that marketing didn't believe you can market fixing gameplay. Madden implements features that doesn't get touched after second year becuase it isn't marketable anymore. The focus is always on back of box features and forcing innovation.
    NCAA just had to stay afloat. As long as it can maintain consistent revenue, it seems like NCAA had free range to create game in their own vision. I think we are years away from another NCAA game. But if next gen is truly backwards compatitble, then we could at least play NCAA 13 & 14 on next gen.

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