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NBA 2K20 Patch 1.05 Available Now - Patch Notes Included

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NBA 2K20 Patch 1.05 Available Now - Patch Notes Included

NBA 2K20 game update 1.05 is available now. Check out the patch notes below and let us know what you’re seeing.

  • Fixed an issue that caused some Play Now Online, MyTEAM Unlimited, Play With Friends, and All-Star Team-up games to disconnect prior to completion.
  • Fixed an issue where some MyTEAM users were reporting their Collector Level progress was shown as being reset (visit the Collector Level menu to return to your proper level).
  • Many, many more fixes included to improve the overall experience of NBA 2K20!

Here’s some additional notes from Mike Wang (@Beluba)

  • Successful coach challenges won’t use a timeout
  • Fix for baseline dunks that weren’t triggering properly
  • Adjust Pro Stick window for hop step gathers so left or right performs normal dunks/layups
  • Fewer missed “full white” releases
  • Buff Pick Dodger to match Brick Wall strength
  • Fix Steve Nash sig dribble style yo-yo ball bug
  • Widen the speed gap, especially to reduce the speeds of low-rated bigs
    • To clarify the fix for “full whites,” shooting %’s were untouched. Shooting will be the same as it was pre-patch. It just fixes inconsistencies between what the shot meter shows and the actual outcome.
  • Ball shagger dudes should be in MyTeam Freestyle practice with the patch as well.

Here’s some additional notes from Zach Timmerman (@CHoops4Life)

  • Look for a solid buff to badge progression – Today’s patch addresses badge progression, essentially making the meters “smaller” (not visually). Will shorten the amount of time to fill badge meters.

 

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  1. Not bad, It appears speed differential has been a address. Hopefully they tune it back to the way they had it at launch.
    Shooting definitely didn't need a buff it feels good and easy with the meter off already. I'm guessing it just became even more easier now!! I might have to adjust my siders again.
    ranger91
    Assuming no fixes yet for the MyLeague player/team option bug?

    I wouldn't get my hopes up. That's a fairly detailed patch notes and no love for myleague. Gotta give them those micro transactions to get attention
    Updated OP, via Mike.
    To clarify the fix for "full whites," shooting %'s were untouched. Shooting will be the same as it was pre-patch. It just fixes inconsistencies between what the shot meter shows and the actual outcome.
    Ball shagger dudes should be in MyTeam Freestyle practice with the patch as well.
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    Steve_OS
    Updated OP, via Mike.
    To clarify the fix for "full whites," shooting %'s were untouched. Shooting will be the same as it was pre-patch. It just fixes inconsistencies between what the shot meter shows and the actual outcome.
    Ball shagger dudes should be in MyTeam Freestyle practice with the patch as well.
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    So full white makes will be shown as green now?
    Charles Bliss
    Not bad, It appears speed differential has been a address. Hopefully they tune it back to the way they had it at launch.
    Shooting definitely didn't need a buff it feels good and easy with the meter off already. I'm guessing it just became even more easier now!! I might have to adjust my siders again.

    Iet me just respectfully disagree with u my fellow gamer on the shooting part.
    firstly I play The NBA section of PNO or PN offline....and I play with more than 6 teams
    premise:
    am sure if u play a game mode as a single character shooting with one person is repetitive enough to shoot majority green that shooting is fun and probably easy, and if not then u can make or change ur jumpshot animation to a must easier version to time properly enough to get majority greens
    now for the mode I play;not saying u dont play those, hitting open jumpshots feels too predicated on making greens than I think it should be or has been since demo
    there is already other factors in play to determine make and miss including ratings, hot zones, field goal percentage, and the white released, as its described ,felt more like punishment for not greening,
    my suggestion:
    like nba like I would like for the good shot releases window to be shown at all times visually and the window range to decrease or increase depending on openness , hotzones, or the presence of a defender or contestest, I feel like there is too much emphasis on perfect releases vs good and great releases
    (NBA 2k15)
    conclusion:
    as is I think a buff was needed to white releases
    P.s..... if green(perfect releases) are guaranteed makes
    why is smothered 100 covered is still makeable? shouldn't this be on the other end of the spectrum as guaranteed missed shot?
    kjjnesb
    Looking like a gameplay only patch

    Fix the money makers first. It sucks but I honestly wasn't expecting myleague to get a fix any time soon. Shame.
    Goffs
    Speed has been touched. My center feels like he has weight again. This won't last lol
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    Sounds like a good thing...as long as it isn't changed again
    scottyp180
    Sounds like a good thing...as long as it isn't changed again
    Oh it is a good thing! I'm just cynical and I know this won't last. But you can tell overall speed of the game looks like prepatch to me.
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    Goffs
    Oh it is a good thing! I'm just cynical and I know this won't last. But you can tell overall speed of the game looks like prepatch to me.
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    How Sway?
    I thought speed wasn't touched
    I’ve done 3 MyLeague test games with 12 minute quarters to see if they addressed the CPU not subbing out guys in danger of fouling out. Pleasantly surprised that I didn’t have a guy with 6 fouls before the 4th quarter anymore. In all 3 games I simcasted from the end of the 1st into the midst of the 4th and no one had fouled out yet.
    Lone_Wolf
    Pre patch it took 40,000 badge points to fill up a bar. What's the required number now? 35k? 30k?
    Hope its like 10k.
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    Goffs
    Speed has been touched. My center feels like he has weight again. This won't last lol
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    Makes sense, they actually said they touched speed this time...
    I'm sure it'll 'magically revert' in an hour
    Jesus, man, can we make these patches a touch smaller or release them at a better time?
    Getting hit with a 35 GB patch when I get home from work is no bueno.
    Hope the speed thing is real.
    OSUFan_88
    Jesus, man, can we make these patches a touch smaller or release them at a better time?
    Getting hit with a 35 GB patch when I get home from work is no bueno.
    Hope the speed thing is real.
    Its a day early actually
    Thetruth9012
    So shooting will be even easier?
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    hey hey. lol. hold on now. I'm with you guys on the beyond OP shooting of the last what...3 or so 2ks. this one included. But whatever happened in that last patch. It didnt nurf shooting it just made it so that if you were not completely badged up. you were missing full whites OFTEN. it was boom or bust. Splash greens or nothing with certain jumpshot animations. I thought it was me and my friends start having the same issues. It went so far i had to test it out and i start using my PG and i intentionally put my dimer badge on gold when we would play. I noticed they were full whiting everything. Brick...Brick.. Splash green. i'm not saying they never hit non greens i'm saying these were wide open shots after being hit with a gold dimer pass. these are guys i know can shoot well. It was getting a bit ridiculous with the misses when it was clear as day 2k decided not to give everyone as many greens which is fine. but dont make me miss all these 99.9% almost perfect releases when i'm wide open with no defenders around.
    So hopefully this fixes it. maybe the shot was much worse off then we thought and we THOUGHT we were getting full whites basically 99% and we were really getting 80%ers. at least now we know, change your release. you see my point?
    Goffs
    Speed has been touched. My center feels like he has weight again. This won't last lol
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    I'm sure it will change. :) As Dre said, it wasn't touched in the first place but who knows what.. :)
    OSUFan_88
    Jesus, man, can we make these patches a touch smaller or release them at a better time?
    Getting hit with a 35 GB patch when I get home from work is no bueno.
    Hope the speed thing is real.

    lol Right.
    but please please have the speed right again. dudes sitting at 280lbs with boots on keeping up with 6'1 guys with 94 speed. utterly ridiculous.
    Shadow
    Fast breaks are easier now it seems.

    as they should be. its called a FAST break for a reason. Jokics should not be able to keep up. at the same time, if jokics is guarded by muggsy bogues. he should dunk on his head every...single..time.
    scottyp180
    Anyone notice an improvement to the frame rate issues on PS4 Pro? Been hoping it's been addressed with every patch. Hopefully this is the one.

    I think it's been addressed, I reckon it's about 80% right. Still a little room for improvement but I might just be being too picky
    Goffs
    Speed has been touched. My center feels like he has weight again. This won't last lol
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    NIIIIIIIIICE!!!!!!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    this 1.05 patch didn't fix jersey (when u pick jerseys) not appearing before the start of the game in my league online mode!!!!
    again that bug when u play 9min quarter, the game starts instead with 5min quarter
    toooooo many contested layups are going in!
    too many shooting fouls on attacking the basket!
    scottyp180
    Sounds like a good thing...as long as it isn't changed again

    Dont worry...ppl will cry and it will be changed back in the next patch.
    Wowwwwwwwww. Great job 2k.
    I played for about an hour post patch.
    1. The speed should never change from this. The speed differential is obvious. I never knew speed affected so many parts of the game.
    2. Help defense is better.
    3. HOF Cpu no longer making every single layup. Shot contests with the right stick are better a d more effective.
    4. The ball moves faster then the defender. This opens up shooting on pull ups, drive and kicks, pnr when the defender goes under, hockey assists, and passing out of double teams.
    5. Driving directly into a below average defender is not an automatic blow bye.
    The only problems that were not touched in this patch were the offensive rebounding, and ball tangibility.
    Of course this is after an hour of play
    Thank you so much for this update. The gameplay is SOOOO much better now for guards. Playing the rec you can move much more freely and speed has a much greater effect better balancing out the builds between speedsters, shooters and bigs. Bigs dominated the meta and probably still will but it was really nice getting some clean drives and openings organically that just wasn't there before the patch. I feel like I can focus more on basketball than how to play within the confines of the game now.
    alabamarob
    Wowwwwwwwww. Great job 2k.
    I played for about an hour post patch.
    1. The speed should never change from this. The speed differential is obvious. I never knew speed affected so many parts of the game.
    2. Help defense is better.
    3. HOF Cpu no longer making every single layup. Shot contests with the right stick are better a d more effective.
    4. The ball moves faster then the defender. This opens up shooting on pull ups, drive and kicks, pnr when the defender goes under, hockey assists, and passing out of double teams.
    5. Driving directly into a below average defender is not an automatic blow bye.
    The only problems that were not touched in this patch were the offensive rebounding, and ball tangibility.
    Of course this is after an hour of play
    The kind of post I like to see!!! Speed/ change of speed is a major key in almost every aspect of basketball! This is what made the game such a gem on day 1!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Very pleased with this patch 2k!
    Fast breaks are better and badge progression is much quicker.
    I have a center with 88 Speed and these walruses can’t keep up anymore.
    3ShowTime2
    How can this be 35GB on XBox...:crazy:

    Wow. When you are dropping patches the size of some full games that makes you wonder if the game should have released so early.. I'm still enjoying it though and glad they are trying to improve the game.
    Steve_OS
    Via Mike Wang
    - Adjust Pro Stick window for hop step gathers so left or right performs normal dunks/layups

    This a very nice low key adjustment. I was getting tired of doing hop step gathers by mistake when I was attacking the rim. Sometime, I would trigger a hop step gather on a fastbreak which gave the defense just enough of a "delayed shot attempt" to pin the ball to the backboard from behind.
    ksuttonjr76
    This a very nice low key adjustment. I was getting tired of doing hop step gathers by mistake when I was attacking the rim. Sometime, I would trigger a hop step gather on a fastbreak which gave the defense just enough of a "delayed shot attempt" to pin the ball to the backboard from behind.
    Yes...I love this change. Playing absolute control feels like absolute now. No more hop step dunks lol
    One thing I wish this patch addressed was getting rid of seeing CPU greens. I have a feeling they hard coded it and they can't do anything about this year.
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    Patch notes from Facebook
    - Fixed an issue that caused some Play Now Online, MyTEAM Unlimited, Play With Friends, and All-Star Team-up games to disconnect prior to completion.
    - Fixed an issue where some MyTEAM users were reporting their Collector Level progress was shown as being reset (visit the Collector Level menu to return to your proper level).
    - Many, many more fixes included to improve the overall experience of NBA 2K20!
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    Goffs
    Yes...I love this change. Playing absolute control feels like absolute now. No more hop step dunks lol
    One thing I wish this patch addressed was getting rid of seeing CPU greens. I have a feeling they hard coded it and they can't do anything about this year.
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    I can't with that.... It's a game killer. I'm talking about immersion. Knowing a shot is going in on release SUCKS. Who's idea was this? lol.... He needs a vacation.
    blakdice
    Can someone confirm if lag and framerate on pro is fixed?

    I played a half (12 minute quarters) and didn't experience any stuttering.
    This is on PS4 Pro, with HDR on and with the Broadcast camera. Hopefully, it wasn't just an anomaly.
    jkd32332
    Were there any player likeness updates?

    Zach Lavine got another face but not sure if or who else did... thats all i know of
    23
    Zach Lavine got another face but not sure if or who else did... thats all i know of

    If he’s the only one, then that sucks.......
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    Ok, I'm gonna need 2K to chill with the 20GB patches. I have been enjoying 2K20. And I understand the need to fix the myriad of issues with the game. I have Pro in our family room and a base PS4 in the bedroom. Every patch is double for me. With Cox I have a 1024GB cap. Fooling around with 2K I gonna be paying out the yang! I know, first world problems, but come on 2K...
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    Can anyone say how much faster badge progression is? I was getting NICE gains on my bars before this. Got two new badges alone last night. I can only imagine how fast it will be now.
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    jeebs9
    I can't with that.... It's a game killer. I'm talking about immersion. Knowing a shot is going in on release SUCKS. Who's idea was this? lol.... He needs a vacation.

    It was killing me at first but after dealing with the frame rate and stutter issues I'll gladly deal with seeing CPU greens if the game is running smooth. Greens aren't ideal but at least they don't litterally break the game like the stuttering does.
    Gosens6
    Can anyone say how much faster badge progression is? I was getting NICE gains on my bars before this. Got two new badges alone last night. I can only imagine how fast it will be now.
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    From the one mycareer game I played. I would say the bar moves much much more this time around.
    Also playing against the CPU offline it looks like they toned down the offensive rebounding? Need to play more but Capela pre patch was a pain to keep out of the paint.
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    Junior Moe
    Ok, I'm gonna need 2K to chill with the 20GB patches. I have been enjoying 2K20. And I understand the need to fix the myriad of issues with the game. I have Pro in our family room and a base PS4 in the bedroom. Every patch is double for me. With Cox I have a 1024GB cap. Fooling around with 2K I gonna be paying out the yang! I know, first world problems, but come on 2K...
    On top of that, my service is struggling every single time. I'm 26.7 percent in and have 2 hours 37 minutes left (estimated). For some reason these updates have been crawling for me every time (hovering around 15 Mb/s for some reason).
    Gameplay vs the cpu
    Game is slower.
    Help defense is better.
    Because the game is slower you can stay in front of ball handlers easier. When you couple that with better help defense it makes the defense much better. Honestly should open up the cpu's drive and kick game but in my limited time it really hasn't.
    Have only played one game but, shooting seemed easier. I'm not really a fan. I thought shooting was fine. My percentages were realistic.
    So with the change in speed and the ability to better contain the dribble combined with easier shooting the game vs the cpu seems a bit too much in favor of the user. Just my opinion after one game.
    Can’t join friends parks without being switched to a build that is not t ready for online play.
    Then if you have two people in a squad, when the 3rd opens their phone to except the squad invite they get dashboarded.
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    Hmm, could someone fire up a MyLeague and tell me if they're seeing the same things I do?
    The contracts option bug seems fixed!? Man, they need to put this in the notes!!
    I'm only through 2 seasons of simming, so still early... but progression/regression seems better as well. More testing needed but we could be close to a point where the mode is playable.
    What a god damn patch. Better badge progression, and my fast point guard won't have a center riding it all the way from half court!!! I hope it stays.
    jeebs9
    I can't with that.... It's a game killer. I'm talking about immersion. Knowing a shot is going in on release SUCKS. Who's idea was this? lol.... He needs a vacation.

    OMG this CPU green release is so unrealistic!
    I've played about 5 games and the amount of green releases by the CPU is ridiculious.
    I play 10mins qtrs and see 25-30+ green releases a games.
    Remove the green release success period especially for the CPU.
    AstrosAllDay85
    do U change any of the movement or speed sliders? Or are u a purist? Lol
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    I've hated the movement for years so of course I do
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    Did they ever fix the beats incentive?
    I'm supposed to get 2 vc for every point I score. And 5 vc for every reboud. There are also other incentives I have with them.
    I end every game with Beats giving me like 7 VC, rather than 60 VC or more.
    I'd say I've lost over 10k VC due to this glitch. Of course, with them having people pay real money for vc, lost vc virtually should be compensated, especially with a virtual contract with virtual beats :).
    Any idea if this glitch is fixed, and if they will compensate people for all the VC they lost?
    zrohman
    Did they ever fix the beats incentive?
    I'm supposed to get 2 vc for every point I score. And 5 vc for every reboud. There are also other incentives I have with them.
    I end every game with Beats giving me like 7 VC, rather than 60 VC or more.
    I'd say I've lost over 10k VC due to this glitch. Of course, with them having people pay real money for vc, lost vc virtually should be compensated, especially with a virtual contract with virtual beats :).
    Any idea if this glitch is fixed, and if they will compensate people for all the VC they lost?

    Looks like it's been fixed
    https://mobile.twitter.com/NBA2KonReddit/status/1178782829469196290
    I gotta say I was really regretting my build this year. I felt that my 7ft rim protector couldn't block or intimidate anybody. But after the patch I'm feeling good with my build now. Looks like rim protectors got a nice boost because I was ready to drop my guy and create a 7'3 glass cleaner like everyone else.
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    zrohman
    Did they ever fix the beats incentive?
    I'm supposed to get 2 vc for every point I score. And 5 vc for every reboud. There are also other incentives I have with them.
    I end every game with Beats giving me like 7 VC, rather than 60 VC or more.
    I'd say I've lost over 10k VC due to this glitch. Of course, with them having people pay real money for vc, lost vc virtually should be compensated, especially with a virtual contract with virtual beats :).
    Any idea if this glitch is fixed, and if they will compensate people for all the VC they lost?

    It will eventually be fixed would be my guess. May be 3 to 6 months from now, but eventually.
    And I’m about 99.99% positive you will NOT be credited your VC.
    On the 2nd and 3rd day I played about 40 games between park, rec, and my career, but my rep, badges, and overall was frozen and I never got compensated or even a response from 2k support.
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    Dang these huge files!!!!! I got 19 hours left.
    Hopefully it fixes that annoying bug of a defender bumping into you and it's credited as a steal or block. In 2k18 that would have been a foul. Also the Overtime glitch of passing/player icons disappearing and the camera zooming in on the bench and you can't tell what's going on.
    After this patch my 7'3 glass cleaning defender is completely useless. My standing dunk is a 95 and he no longer dunks. I can't get blocks because my guys too slow and I'm struggling to get rebounds because he can no longer chase them down. The only way I'm getting rebounds is if they land in my hands.
    I understand the centers were a little overpowered but they've hamstrung them.
    Why do people complain about patches? I'd gladly take a night off of not playing if some things and be fixed and we have a better overall product tomorrow. Do you not want them to improve the game?
    Sounds like a nice patch. Movement and speed changes sound to my liking and I really am hoping the contracts issue has been fixed. If so this is a great patch! Makes me more excited for the season to start and for those opening day rosters to be dropped.
    I'm not very tech saavy and lazy, but if you want to head over to the "2k killed the MyGM Mode!!" thread 24th Letter posted a fix to put some options back into MyGM and turn off the leaderboards. I'm not a MyGM guy but it's great news for those who are. This seems to be a really great patch.
    ensoul
    After this patch my 7'3 glass cleaning defender is completely useless. My standing dunk is a 95 and he no longer dunks. I can't get blocks because my guys too slow and I'm struggling to get rebounds because he can no longer chase them down. The only way I'm getting rebounds is if they land in my hands.
    I understand the centers were a little overpowered but they've hamstrung them.

    Seems like he is fixed. Now you have a real deficiency to using a oversized guy. You shouldnt be chasing anyting down lol
    splashmountain
    hey hey. lol. hold on now. I'm with you guys on the beyond OP shooting of the last what...3 or so 2ks. this one included. But whatever happened in that last patch. It didnt nurf shooting it just made it so that if you were not completely badged up. you were missing full whites OFTEN. it was boom or bust. Splash greens or nothing with certain jumpshot animations. I thought it was me and my friends start having the same issues. It went so far i had to test it out and i start using my PG and i intentionally put my dimer badge on gold when we would play. I noticed they were full whiting everything. Brick...Brick.. Splash green. i'm not saying they never hit non greens i'm saying these were wide open shots after being hit with a gold dimer pass. these are guys i know can shoot well. It was getting a bit ridiculous with the misses when it was clear as day 2k decided not to give everyone as many greens which is fine. but dont make me miss all these 99.9% almost perfect releases when i'm wide open with no defenders around.
    So hopefully this fixes it. maybe the shot was much worse off then we thought and we THOUGHT we were getting full whites basically 99% and we were really getting 80%ers. at least now we know, change your release. you see my point?

    99% miss = horrible exaggeration. THe shot meter isnt the true release thats the big issue thats hurting you. TURN IT OFF. shot releases are a mixture of the base and the hand motion. BOTH must be correct = Height + followthrew to be successful.
    HoustonHarden
    Seems like he is fixed. Now you have a real deficiency to using a oversized guy. You shouldnt be chasing anyting down lol

    If what you mean by fixed is my guy can't jump can no longer dunk, jump, grab a rebound unless it lands in his hand then yes I suppose he is.
    More or less visual concepts made shooting guards overpowered and centers almost useless.
    ensoul
    After this patch my 7'3 glass cleaning defender is completely useless. My standing dunk is a 95 and he no longer dunks. I can't get blocks because my guys too slow and I'm struggling to get rebounds because he can no longer chase them down. The only way I'm getting rebounds is if they land in my hands.
    I understand the centers were a little overpowered but they've hamstrung them.

    No disrespect to you, specifically, but I couldn't be happier for you and the rest of the people that acted like a 7'3 glass cleaning defender is what you totally wanted be. There's 1% of people that tall that could actually dominate a basketball game irl. My suggestion..wait..the youtubers will tell you which build to use next, don't worry.
    Well I definitely have to adjust my movement sliders now. I reduced the gap from what I had but likely need to do more. Bigs are indeed slow which I like to a point. Markieff Morris was moving like he was in quicksand. And so was Dre which I didn’t care for. It seemed that some guys moved faster while dribbling than without the ball too. Maybe it was my imagination but a couple times it looked weird out there. Will have to tweak some things.
    Didn’t notice anything else in my first game other than there seemed to be a few more deflections but that could have been pure randomness and a one game sample.
    osk9
    No disrespect to you, specifically, but I couldn't be happier for you and the rest of the people that acted like a 7'3 glass cleaning defender is what you totally wanted be. There's 1% of people that tall that could actually dominate a basketball game irl. My suggestion..wait..the youtubers will tell you which build to use next, don't worry.

    I've actually made the same build not quite as tall the past three times. I enjoy grabbing rebounds and playing D.
    problem is now I'm struggling to get rebounds and now shooting guards are getting rebounds instead of me
    Been trying to load into a rec game for an hour now with 2 of my friends, but the game keeps crashing for one of us every time. I literally opened my phone to squad up and it crashed as well. This is ridiculous. #fix2k20
    ensoul
    I've actually made the same build not quite as tall the past three times. I enjoy grabbing rebounds and playing D.
    problem is now I'm struggling to get rebounds and now shooting guards are getting rebounds instead of me

    You took my clear pent up frustration with the game very well lol. Much respect to u.
    ensoul
    If what you mean by fixed is my guy can't jump can no longer dunk, jump, grab a rebound unless it lands in his hand then yes I suppose he is.
    More or less visual concepts made shooting guards overpowered and centers almost useless.

    So your player is basically Roy Hibbert now. Sounds pretty realistic to me for a 7'3 defending build. :y220a:
    I can't say anything about online play or MyPlayers, but I feel like in addition to speed changes, they made a lot of improvement to how CPU opponent and User CPU players play now.
    There are two big standouts to me at first glance. The first is how much smarter the CPU decision making and shot selection is on offense. They don't don't try and bully their way into the paint and force up a bad shot even if they are triple teamed There is a lot more variety in the type of shots they take.
    The second is that User players can get fast break layups without getting chased down and magnetized back into the defender if they are anywhere close to them. I'm glad I had only made a couple of slider tweaks, because if I had made a lot then I would have had to make a lot of changes back.
    I pessimistically agree with those who say that they will turn the speed back up on the bigs because of too much MyPlayer complaining.
    Hengist
    This patch was a god send for offline. Slower pace, more drives and kicks. THIS is the game I was expecting at launch.

    Yup...me and the roomie having so much more fun playing offline 5v5 now. Can't chase each other down with centers anymore lol.
    Baebae32
    Please get rid of cpu green release and takeover icons

    I hear what you are saying but honestly I like the green releases...It doesn't feel cheesy to me at all...
    Great patch BTW 2k especially for me because I play strictly offline. Now I have to adjust some sliders because the blow by's are kind of too easy for my liking
    tyberious4now
    I hear what you are saying but honestly I like the green releases...It doesn't feel cheesy to me at all...
    Great patch BTW 2k especially for me because I play strictly offline. Now I have to adjust some sliders because the blow by's are kind of too easy for my liking
    You want to know that a player is hitting a shot. Like you want to know before the show goes in. I'm so confused. I rather go play ball then.
    Also I saw that they updated a face scan
    https://twitter.com/2K_Freak33/status/1178777434277236736?s=09
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    ensoul
    If what you mean by fixed is my guy can't jump can no longer dunk, jump, grab a rebound unless it lands in his hand then yes I suppose he is.
    More or less visual concepts made shooting guards overpowered and centers almost useless.

    I doubt you have ever seen how slow, unathletic and immobile a 7'3 human being is in real life nor have you seen someone play basketball.
    Love how the game plays post patch, at last I enjoyed playing a full MyLeague game (12 min quarters). So far I played All-Star default because I didn't want to mess with sliders after all the patch drops, but All-Star now feels a little too easy with fast guards blowing by other players. I felt that with players like Fultz you con do anything you want. But I don't want this to be changed! I'll up the difficulty to superstar and see what happens
    The only thing that still bothers me is the cpu still forcing drives waaay too much. Sometimes cpu guards mindlessly dribble through/around the paint for seconds...But I think that this is less a hardcoded problem than it has to do with tendencies etc...
    Im definitely enjoying shooting online right now....you can still miss but it seems to reward good shots more...oh yeah and the speed THANK YOOOOOU:headbang2
    3ShowTime2
    The only thing that still bothers me is the cpu still forcing drives waaay too much. Sometimes cpu guards mindlessly dribble through/around the paint for seconds...But I think that this is less a hardcoded problem than it has to do with tendencies etc...

    It's probably tendencies. I think some guards who are first and foremonst playmakers tend to shoot too much, instead of playmaking (though I haven't really studied it so far). Saw Chris Paul force a lot of shots (though it could be just a one game thing) and it seems every time I play the Hawks Trae Young shoots all the time.
    I would say for those people that were happy with their movement sliders before the patch, the MIN number has to come up a lot more now. Bigs move in quicksand and probably move better in the default settings but a really low Min number is too extreme. I had mine at 85/15 and I have to bump it up the min at least 20 points. Probably don’t have to touch the Max number imo.
    Find_the_Door
    Play now online still disconnects - ridiculous.

    you think after 10 years where we are seeing disconnects online now they fix this? problem is that every year another thing is forcing these disconnects. in 2k10 you were not allowed to dunk right beneath the basket or it would result in a disconnect. in 2k13 if you ran a fastbreak and tried do start a layup/dunk at the freethrow line, it would disconnect.
    since 2k17 the game will very likely disconnect if you change your matchups or defensive settings in the pause menu.
    3ShowTime2
    The only thing that still bothers me is the cpu still forcing drives waaay too much. Sometimes cpu guards mindlessly dribble through/around the paint for seconds...But I think that this is less a hardcoded problem than it has to do with tendencies etc...

    Tendencies in 2K default roster plays a huge part. Players like Spida and Russ has 99 attack tendency. So they almost exclusively put their head down and tries to get to the rim. With default rosters it's a weird mix of modern and 90s era NBA basketball.
    Lets hope we get a roster overhaul from 2K so we can get more ball movement and less bulldozing to the paint.
    Goffs
    Damn...steam version got updated last night. Should roll out soon...no?

    I hope! But Switch is still on 1.02 so I’m not holding my breath... My hope is that 2k has just been prioritizing satisfying the big console gamers and then when the complaining dies down (relatively speaking) they’ll bring Switch up to the latest patch.
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    kongemeier
    Tendencies in 2K default roster plays a huge part. Players like Spida and Russ has 99 attack tendency. So they almost exclusively put their head down and tries to get to the rim. With default rosters it's a weird mix of modern and 90s era NBA basketball.
    Lets hope we get a roster overhaul from 2K so we can get more ball movement and less bulldozing to the paint.

    I found a pretty effective solution: increase the "Look For Post Players" tendency slider to 80. That seems to be the sweet spot. You will see players pass more and distribute touches. At 50, the game is just horrible, arcade like.
    23
    i like the movement much better now
    but then again maybe they didn't change anything and its pluh cee bow
    We better enjoy it while we can!!! I felt like I was playing nba 2k on September 6th last night! It was 2K day all over again!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    alabamarob
    2k11 may finally be dethroned.
    My favorite nba 2k OFFLINE pure game of basketball is definitely NBA 2K20. Before people jump on me I did say "OFFLINE PURE GAME OF BASKETBALL" so please my fellow OS'ers no back and forth about bugs and glitches lol. We talking basketball baby!!🤣
    ~Koosa10:27~
    I'm noticing a huge difference in auto playcalling! The way the playbooks/playcalls have been mixed up is awesome! Before the patch teams were running like 6 plays tops. Now it seems like the playbooks are wide open and being utilized nicely!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    vetmin
    I hope! But Switch is still on 1.02 so I’m not holding my breath... My hope is that 2k has just been prioritizing satisfying the big console gamers and then when the complaining dies down (relatively speaking) they’ll bring Switch up to the latest patch.
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    Wait...1.02? Jeez I just noticed that Jokic still has his hair....
    Played 1 game post patch against the lakers in mycareer and im liking this patch. Kinda close to simulation basketball and players like lebron/davis is actually playing like themselves. I notice more set plays by the cpu. Pick and roll is kinda easier /automatic now though.
    tyberious4now
    I hear what you are saying but honestly I like the green releases...It doesn't feel cheesy to me at all...
    Great patch BTW 2k especially for me because I play strictly offline. Now I have to adjust some sliders because the blow by's are kind of too easy for my liking

    I just want the option to disable all visuals bro. Its always been that way
    Baebae32
    I just want the option to disable all visuals bro. Its always been that way
    Always! Live actually has an option to turn off everything. I think you can have the circle indicator off as well. Talk about ultimate immersion.
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    alabamarob
    2k11 may finally be dethroned.
    I can't remember if it was 2k10 or 2k11 that had the automatic dunk or layup on almost every pick and roll. I remember being able to pass to the roller no matter how clogged the paint was for the easy 2 points lol. It got so bad that I started ignoring the roll man completely and going to option 2 and 3 on pick and rolls.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    ensoul
    After this patch my 7'3 glass cleaning defender is completely useless. My standing dunk is a 95 and he no longer dunks. I can't get blocks because my guys too slow and I'm struggling to get rebounds because he can no longer chase them down. The only way I'm getting rebounds is if they land in my hands.
    I understand the centers were a little overpowered but they've hamstrung them.

    Yea Exactly. I have a 7ft2 guy and i made him because everyone had 7ft3 guys forcing over my 7ft Center. I put all that time into him and now hes just terrible slow. It shouldnt of slowed us down that much. Also guards with low lateral quickness wont be able to stop anything on defense because they are too slow now too. haha. This patch was a joke. It broke more than it fixed.
    Koosa1027
    We better enjoy it while we can!!! I felt like I was playing nba 2k on September 6th last night! It was 2K day all over again!
    ~Koosa10:27~

    If I ever get this patch downloaded(Slow Wifi), I may
    Not download anymore. I am so tired of having to redo and rethink everything, every time they release a New patch.
    vtcrb
    If I ever get this patch downloaded(Slow Wifi), I may
    Not download anymore. I am so tired of having to redo and rethink everything, every time they release a New patch.

    Its so true. Its like every time they patch something we have to adjust our build to it and in some cases they kill our build that we spent vc, time, and effort on. I wish the game would come out and theyd make subtle changes, but not like this.
    swaggerUcanes
    Yea Exactly. I have a 7ft2 guy and i made him because everyone had 7ft3 guys forcing over my 7ft Center. I put all that time into him and now hes just terrible slow. It shouldnt of slowed us down that much. Also guards with low lateral quickness wont be able to stop anything on defense because they are too slow now too. haha. This patch was a joke. It broke more than it fixed.
    7ft3 guys should be slow(er). Even the most skilled 7 footers that ever played the game could not keep up with a fast guard, it's call a mismatch for a reason. Same goes for your 7ft center, he should easily man handle a point guard in the post. The speed differential is what separates this game from all other 2k's and makes the pace of the game better. This is why we'll have 50 more game speed changes before nba 2k21 is released lol
    ~Koosa10:27~
    vtcrb
    If I ever get this patch downloaded(Slow Wifi), I may
    Not download anymore. I am so tired of having to redo and rethink everything, every time they release a New patch.
    Dang I hate that bro. Mine downloaded in 20 minutes. My download/upload speed is the only thing that makes me not hate charter spectrum for charging so much!! Lol
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    Dang I hate that bro. Mine downloaded in 20 minutes. My download/upload speed is the only thing that makes me not hate charter spectrum for charging so much!! Lol
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Mine isn't Super Slow, but I do have some teenage gamers in house as well, so I disconnect when they want to play.
    I am also scared they will eventually cave into the Online crowd who doesnt want a True NBA experience. They instead want all Players to have same Speed and Skill, to Only to be separated by their Stick Skills.
    Koosa1027
    7ft3 guys should be slow(er). Even the most skilled 7 footers that ever played the game could not keep up with a fast guard, it's call a mismatch for a reason. Same goes for your 7ft center, he should easily man handle a point guard in the post. The speed differential is what separates this game from all other 2k's and makes the pace of the game better. This is why we'll have 50 more game speed changes before nba 2k21 is released lol
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Ive always made 6ft11 centers, maybe 7ft. This year I went taller once I saw everyone else had a 7ft2 7ft3 big man and the 7ft3 guys were forcing over my 7ft guy. 2k cant just keep changing things around like that when you make the build BASED OFF THE GAME. Its just like jumpers. you end up having to use a jumper thats good and adjust TO THE GAME. When they change things up and totally change your player thats not cool. Thats why im tired of all the updates. Just come out with the game and ONLY fix big things...
    swaggerUcanes
    Ive always made 6ft11 centers, maybe 7ft. This year I went taller once I saw everyone else had a 7ft2 7ft3 big man and the 7ft3 guys were forcing over my 7ft guy. 2k cant just keep changing things around like that when you make the build BASED OFF THE GAME. Its just like jumpers. you end up having to use a jumper thats good and adjust TO THE GAME. When they change things up and totally change your player thats not cool. Thats why im tired of all the updates. Just come out with the game and ONLY fix big things...

    It's a balance and you're in the minority. You either have arcade or realism. Can you say, in all honesty, that a 7'3 big man should run the same speed as a 6'2 athletic guard? No, they shouldn't be able to. That's what they're doing here.
    I understand playing to the game, and you made it because that's what the game required, the meta. So after a big meta breaking patch I can see it being frustrating but it's also for the better. Maybe they should let people respec, but I don't see that happening. I guess with the increase in VC you'll be money ahead to just recreate and grind. I get it, it sucks, but at least it'll be fair and allow more variety to bigs that play online. Having all these customization's and ability to create many more types of players might actually matter now instead of just 7'3 bigs.
    vtcrb
    Mine isn't Super Slow, but I do have some teenage gamers in house as well, so I disconnect when they want to play.
    I am also scared they will eventually cave into the Online crowd who doesnt want a True NBA experience. They instead want all Playera to have same Speed and Skill, to Only to be separated by their Stick Skills.
    OH NO!!!! I'll help you pray against that!!🤣🤣
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Sreister
    It's a balance and you're in the minority. You either have arcade or realism. Can you say, in all honesty, that a 7'3 big man should run the same speed as a 6'2 athletic guard? No, they shouldn't be able to. That's what they're doing here.
    I understand playing to the game, and you made it because that's what the game required, the meta. So after a big game breaking patch I can see it being frustrating but it's also for the better. Maybe they should let people respec, but I don't see that happening. I guess with the increase in VC you'll be money ahead to just recreate and grind. I get it, it sucks, but at least it'll be fair and allow more variety to bigs that play online. Having all these customization's and ability to create many more types of players might actually matter now instead of just 7'3 bigs.

    Im not in the minority. I always wanted 7ft3 bigs to be slow. I just think its funny how you make a build that is good for one patch then the next patch kills him. We all adjusted to how the game was and made builds based off the game at the beginning and now alot of people are forced to pay 2k more money to adjust AGAIN.
    swaggerUcanes
    Ive always made 6ft11 centers, maybe 7ft. This year I went taller once I saw everyone else had a 7ft2 7ft3 big man and the 7ft3 guys were forcing over my 7ft guy. 2k cant just keep changing things around like that when you make the build BASED OFF THE GAME. Its just like jumpers. you end up having to use a jumper thats good and adjust TO THE GAME. When they change things up and totally change your player thats not cool. Thats why im tired of all the updates. Just come out with the game and ONLY fix big things...
    I can agree with that. I know that can be frustrating!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Sreister
    It's a balance and you're in the minority. You either have arcade or realism. Can you say, in all honesty, that a 7'3 big man should run the same speed as a 6'2 athletic guard? No, they shouldn't be able to. That's what they're doing here.
    I understand playing to the game, and you made it because that's what the game required, the meta. So after a big meta breaking patch I can see it being frustrating but it's also for the better. Maybe they should let people respec, but I don't see that happening. I guess with the increase in VC you'll be money ahead to just recreate and grind. I get it, it sucks, but at least it'll be fair and allow more variety to bigs that play online. Having all these customization's and ability to create many more types of players might actually matter now instead of just 7'3 bigs.
    Allowing players to re-spec would be dope buuuuuuut....2k not about to lose all that vc money by letting players just change attributes and stuff without rebuying more vc lol. I'm just glad that I can get my money worth out of 2k without myplayer being a major deciding factor.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Goffs
    Always! Live actually has an option to turn off everything. I think you can have the circle indicator off as well. Talk about ultimate immersion.
    Sent from my SM-G960U1 using Tapatalk
    On the PC version. Someone modded the gamedata file and was able to disable the green release from the CPU... but it also disables the circle to let you know who you have (controllling) on defense, which is not that bad, especially if you're doing player lock.
    But no green release makes the game vs the CPU so much more realistic
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    Koosa1027
    I can agree with that. I know that can be frustrating!
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Yea. Thats all im saying. Dont have it one way then radically change how peoples players are. I wish they would of had speeds like this on launch day. They kinda did, but then they CHANGED it lol.
    I totally know that Rudy Gobert and Boban run down the court like a fat kid running off the school bus to mommy. I have always been for 7ft 3 bigs being slow because I always made a 6ft11 guy with higher speed then had no advantage in the end.
    Im just saying if we make our builds based on how the game plays dont steal our vc and make our players so much different in a patch.
    swaggerUcanes
    Im not in the minority. I always wanted 7ft3 bigs to be slow. I just think its funny how you make a build that is good for one patch then the next patch kills him. We all adjusted to how the game was and made builds based off the game at the beginning and now alot of people are forced to pay 2k more money to adjust AGAIN.
    Although this doesn't effect me one way or the other...I can feel every word of this post!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    Allowing players to re-spec would be dope buuuuuuut....2k not about to lose all that vc money by letting players just change attributes and stuff without rebuying more vc lol. I'm just glad that I can get my money worth out of 2k without myplayer being a major deciding factor.
    ~Koosa10:27~

    All i play is myplayer for the competitiveness against other real people. I like emulating certain players. I know 2k would never let us respec lol. I just wish they would have left gameplay the way it was day one and made subtle obvious changes that we needed. Most of the toxic 2k community is to blame. They wanna speedboost and shoot greens everytime and make demigods, and for some reason 2k will listen
    so anybody can tell me the team options bug have been fixed on pc?
    i'm playing in second years,not met team options bug yet, should I restart a new file, or I can just continue?
    Though I feel it's for the betterment of the game, I 100% sympathize with MyPlayers, a shift to the speed like this has much more of an impact on them.
    On the NBA side on/offline this has been a really solid gameplay patch....and I'll always support that. I'll suffer through 45 minutes of downloading for a better game.
    I feel like 2K17-19 were a bit too light on 'meat of the game' fixes outside of shooting... so Mike, keep on doing your thing.
    If we can sure up help/paint defense I'll be glad to remove 2K16's crown. (Offlne anyway)
    peperrick
    Ps4 pro, patch 1.05, still stuttering!
    Frame rate is terrible, it's a month now come on :brickwall

    It's just fantastic now. 2k lost me with this stutter city gameplay. Just unbelievable, after 5 big s. patches and no fix on PRO Stutter city!
    swaggerUcanes
    All i play is myplayer for the competitiveness against other real people. I like emulating certain players. I know 2k would never let us respec lol. I just wish they would have left gameplay the way it was day one and made subtle obvious changes that we needed. Most of the toxic 2k community is to blame. They wanna speedboost and shoot greens everytime and make demigods, and for some reason 2k will listen

    The current gameplay IS very close to day one gameplay. So if you were playing it since day and made your player based off that gameplay, you shouldn't have a problem.
    However it seems like you waited for a few patches so your big can be overpowered like the last iterations, watched a few youtube videos to see if its still effective after the social media complaints, and went with what worked best...
    2K20 upon release the bigs WERE slow, as they should be.
    Nevertheles109
    The current gameplay IS very close to day one gameplay. So if you were playing it since day and made your player based off that gameplay, you shouldn't have a problem.
    However it seems like you waited for a few patches so your big can be overpowered like the last iterations, watched a few youtube videos to see if its still effective after the social media complaints, and went with what worked best...
    2K20 upon release the bigs WERE slow, as they should be.

    Day 1 I made a 7ft big. nothing taller. I noticed 7ft3 bigs would force and make it over me with my hands straight up. It wasnt everytime but it was enough with me having HOF Intimidator and Rim Protector that it bothered me and I made a taller player. I could tell my new 7ft2 player was slower, but they reall y changed the game up to the point of where i never would have made him. Imagine making a slasher and then they decrease his ability to dunk or his speed. Itll frustrate you. with people making new builds all the time and spending precious VC you cant change things up drastically. Should of kept it like that from day 1.
    Oh and I dont listen to what the youtubers make. LOL. Most of these 2k youtubers are terrible and dont promote simulation gameplay. Not to mention most arent even good at the game.
    swaggerUcanes
    Im not in the minority. I always wanted 7ft3 bigs to be slow. I just think its funny how you make a build that is good for one patch then the next patch kills him. We all adjusted to how the game was and made builds based off the game at the beginning and now alot of people are forced to pay 2k more money to adjust AGAIN.

    Yo-yo’ing builds to fit perfectly with patches — no matter how unrealistic — is inherently risky though, and risks don’t always pay off. What if you could buy a polka-dot top hat accessory that had a glitch that made you green 18% more often? Sure, buy it, but at your own peril because it’s obviously BS. Maybe they never fix it and you get your money’s worth greening all year on some mad-hatter BS, but you can’t complain if they patch it, because it was nonsense to begin with.
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    vetmin
    Yo-yo’ing builds to fit perfectly with patches — no matter how unrealistic — is inherently risky though, and risks don’t always pay off. What if you could buy a polka-dot top hat accessory that had a glitch that made you green 18% more often? Sure, buy it, but at you’re own peril because it’s obviously BS. Maybe they never fix it and you get your money’s worth greening all year on some mad-hatter BS, but you can’t complain if they patch it, because it was nonsense to begin with.
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    I never said i made a build based off a patch. I get how youd get that... But what i meant was I made a build based off what the game was after a couple weeks of it being out when I thought the dust had settled. When other bigs that were trash were forcing over my 7ft tall big. Thats it lol. I went taller. I knew id be slower and I was. But not this slow lol. The speed scale is way wider than before. AGAIN. ITS SOMETHING THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD KEPT FROM DAY ONE OR NOT AT ALL.
    swaggerUcanes
    I never said i made a build based off a patch. I get how youd get that... But what i meant was I made a build based off what the game was after a couple weeks of it being out when I thought the dust had settled. When other bigs that were trash were forcing over my 7ft tall big. Thats it lol. I went taller. I knew id be slower and I was. But not this slow lol. The speed scale is way wider than before. AGAIN. ITS SOMETHING THEY SHOULD HAVE HAD KEPT FROM DAY ONE OR NOT AT ALL.

    Most 7’ Plus guys are significantly slower than their smaller counterparts...... the gap is how it should be now imo
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    The 24th Letter
    Though I feel it's for the betterment of the game, I 100% sympathize with MyPlayers, a shift to the speed like this has much more of an impact on them.
    On the NBA side on/offline this has been a really solid gameplay patch....and I'll always support that. I'll suffer through 45 minutes of downloading for a better game.
    I feel like 2K17-19 were a bit too light on 'meat of the game' fixes outside of shooting... so Mike, keep on doing your thing.
    If we can sure up help/paint defense I'll be glad to remove 2K16's crown. (Offlne anyway)

    The help defense slider in the coaching slider section works wonders. Can only change it in game or in mlo.
    You cool with rebounding?
    AstrosAllDay85
    Most 7’ Plus guys are significantly slower than their smaller counterparts...... the gap is how it should be now imo
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    Ive said that it is how it should be. MY WHOLE ARGUMENT is that 2k shouldnt be making changes like this AFTER the game has been out and people have decided on builds based on what product was given to us.
    Junior Moe
    Ok, I'm gonna need 2K to chill with the 20GB patches. I have been enjoying 2K20. And I understand the need to fix the myriad of issues with the game. I have Pro in our family room and a base PS4 in the bedroom. Every patch is double for me. With Cox I have a 1024GB cap. Fooling around with 2K I gonna be paying out the yang! I know, first world problems, but come on 2K...
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    I feel ya on that. Me and my son play 2K on seperate systems and I went over my cap last month because of all the patch updates.
    swaggerUcanes
    Ive said that it is how it should be. MY WHOLE ARGUMENT is that 2k shouldnt be making changes like this AFTER the game has been out and people have decided on builds based on what product was given to us.

    But that’s exactly what vetmin was saying...... it was a bad idea when they did it and that it was bound to be changed back because it was promoting cheesey creations that u obviously tried to take advantage of and now you’re salty it backfired ......I get what you’re saying but u should have knew better is what vet was trying to say I think
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    AstrosAllDay85
    But that’s exactly what vetmin was saying...... it was a bad idea when they did it and that it was bound to be changed back because it was promoting cheesey creations that u obviously tried to take advantage of and now you’re salty it backfired ......I get what you’re saying but u should have knew better is what vet was trying to say I think
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    No. 7ft2 bigs were not this slow on launch day. Guards were not this fast. THE WHOLE GAME was slower. Which i liked. They didnt revert back. I didnt try to take advantage of any "cheese". When i played i still struggled to keep up with shorter bigs and couldnt stay in front of guards on the perimeter. I dont care what build you made. If you get the game and make it and your player plays a certain way, then 2k kills him youd be like damn, 2k pretty much stole my vc because they know we will have to make another build.
    You guys are missing my only point. I dont care to cheese, I dont look for glitches. If you make a build and invest time and vc into him, then 2k radically changes him. Youd be like wtf. 2k needs to come out and keep things mostly the same. Somebody has to understand what im saying. Yall seem clueless
    kongemeier
    Tendencies in 2K default roster plays a huge part. Players like Spida and Russ has 99 attack tendency. So they almost exclusively put their head down and tries to get to the rim. With default rosters it's a weird mix of modern and 90s era NBA basketball.
    Lets hope we get a roster overhaul from 2K so we can get more ball movement and less bulldozing to the paint.

    pre patch i lowered my cpu shoot inside slider
    It didnt stop them from taking it to the rack but reduced it for sure, and they didnt always immediately take it back up but kicked it out sometimes on rebounds
    swaggerUcanes
    No. 7ft2 bigs were not this slow on launch day. Guards were not this fast. THE WHOLE GAME was slower. Which i liked. They didnt revert back. I didnt try to take advantage of any "cheese". When i played i still struggled to keep up with shorter bigs and couldnt stay in front of guards on the perimeter. I dont care what build you made. If you get the game and make it and your player plays a certain way, then 2k kills him youd be like damn, 2k pretty much stole my vc because they know we will have to make another build.
    You guys are missing my only point. I dont care to cheese, I dont look for glitches. If you make a build and invest time and vc into him, then 2k radically changes him. Youd be like wtf. 2k needs to come out and keep things mostly the same. Somebody has to understand what im saying. Yall seem clueless

    I truly get what you are saying. I’m offline majority of the time but I do feel your point of view..
    So if this change is closer to release gameplay and it remains similar to this for the rest of the year, are you okay with the gameplay?
    Conversely speaking, the game just released less than a month ago so you still have time to adjust and make the player you desire.
    Nevertheles109
    I truly get what you are saying. I’m offline majority of the time but I do feel your point of view..
    So if this change is closer to release gameplay and it remains similar to this for the rest of the year, are you okay with the gameplay?
    Conversely speaking, the game just released less than a month ago so you still have time to adjust and make the player you desire.

    Oh im definitely okay with it. I just want it to stay the same. Not play one way, then change again and again.
    The only way for us to get "consistent" with our players and get to 99 is if the gameplay is consistent.
    I dont wanna worry about what they will change next week lol
    swaggerUcanes
    Oh im definitely okay with it. I just want it to stay the same. Not play one way, then change again and again.
    The only way for us to get "consistent" with our players and get to 99 is if the gameplay is consistent.
    I dont wanna worry about what they will change next week lol
    I just want to say, you get cool points from me because you have gotten alot of opinions (including mine) on this topic and never once have you came with a bad attitude in your responses. I honestly would probably be frustrated by now lol...two thumbs up my guy! Most people would be cursing everybody out and calling them names by now haha. #respect
    EDIT: THIS IS HOW THE FORUMS SHOULD BE!!!!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    I just want to say, you get cool points from me becuase you have gotten alot of opinions (including mine) on this topic and never once have you came with a bad attitude in your responses. I honestly would probably be frustrated by now lol...two thumbs up my guy! Most people would be cursing everybody out and calling them names by now haha. #respect
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Word up.
    It’s nice to have an intelligent convo with an online player and get their point of view.
    ———————————
    My impressions are closer to day one with amplified shooting from the CPU on HOF. However, I actually prefer the CPU shooting better because I was blowing them out due to their shooting. Now the elite players make tough shots, which makes the game more competitive and challenging.
    I just wish there was an option to turn off green releases for the CPU and I. Last but not least, if the loose balls could be more 50/50 vs. 90/10 (Favoring the offense for years now), I’d be as happy as a lark.
    Koosa1027
    I just want to say, you get cool points from me because you have gotten alot of opinions (including mine) on this topic and never once have you came with a bad attitude in your responses. I honestly would probably be frustrated by now lol...two thumbs up my guy! Most people would be cursing everybody out and calling them names by now haha. #respect
    EDIT: THIS IS HOW THE FORUMS SHOULD BE!!!!
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Oh no problem. Im just on here with people who also play 2k and hopefully love basketball. No reason to make enemies. :headbang2
    I just was struggling to figure out how to get people to understand my point. I dont think there is one person out there who wants to put 150k VC on a guy and then one day 2k patches something and takes away from thier player to the point where they think they have to make another. Im sure 2k loves it because then we most likely give them 50 bucks for that new player.
    7ft 3 big men should be slow. No doubt. I just want consistent gameplay. If certain badges or jumpshots work dont patch them unless they are game breaking. I want realism and simulation as much as most of the people on here and i understood what they were throwing at me perfectly. I was just saying something that drastically changes the gameplay can drastically change your myplayer. So 2k needs to stay consistent.
    Still can't notice anything. No statement uniforms. Missing easy open shots, bump into a defender and the ball gets stolen, under the basket big man gets shot deflected from opposing point guard (previous 2k games would have been a foul) now no whistle blow. These idiots can't do anything right.
    Nevertheles109
    Word up.
    It’s nice to have an intelligent convo with an online player and get their point of view.
    ———————————
    My impressions are closer to day one with amplified shooting from the CPU on HOF. However, I actually prefer the CPU shooting better because I was blowing them out due to their shooting. Now the elite players make tough shots, which makes the game more competitive and challenging.
    I just wish there was an option to turn off green releases for the CPU and I. Last but not least, if the loose balls could be more 50/50 vs. 90/10 (Favoring the offense for years now), I’d be as happy as a lark.
    CPU has been greening layups at a much higher clip, I haven't noticed much difference on jumpshots but I been mostly playing on superstar.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    405Cowboy
    Still can't notice anything. No statement uniforms. Missing easy open shots, bump into a defender and the ball gets stolen, under the basket big man gets shot deflected from opposing point guard (previous 2k games would have been a foul) now no whistle blow. These idiots can't do anything right.

    😂. Take a break.
    alabamarob
    The help defense slider in the coaching slider section works wonders. Can only change it in game or in mlo.
    You cool with rebounding?

    Rebounding is this way for stat reasons so it doesn’t bug me because 90 percent of the time. The right people are getting the rebound
    swaggerUcanes
    No. 7ft2 bigs were not this slow on launch day. Guards were not this fast. THE WHOLE GAME was slower. Which i liked. They didnt revert back. I didnt try to take advantage of any "cheese". When i played i still struggled to keep up with shorter bigs and couldnt stay in front of guards on the perimeter. I dont care what build you made. If you get the game and make it and your player plays a certain way, then 2k kills him youd be like damn, 2k pretty much stole my vc because they know we will have to make another build.
    You guys are missing my only point. I dont care to cheese, I dont look for glitches. If you make a build and invest time and vc into him, then 2k radically changes him. Youd be like wtf. 2k needs to come out and keep things mostly the same. Somebody has to understand what im saying. Yall seem clueless

    If you made a 7'3 glass cleaning lock, which i have no idea if u did, you shouldn't even remotely be surprised that your player is brought back to reality. every 2k has a cheeser build and that cheeser build changes as the year goes on due to it being a cheeser build. I do not care if you chose that build organically or not. You put time an effort into building a guy that was not going to remain as dominant, that's life. Go get a degree for a job that is obsolete when you graduate and you will feel cheated by your lack of foresight. Is it fair? no...but there's always the option of learning the ACTUAL ins and outs of being a gigantic athlete in a dynamic sport. You will have advantages and disadvantages..but you will not have the same advantages as someone that has a 5'7 pg AND that of a giant.
    I do agree that it sucks when your build gets nerfed..but it should happen and im sure it will happen to other builds. I do not believe that the giant bigs have been unfairly nerfed. You got what you paid/grinded for...the same amount of upside as you should have had in the beginning. I guess your definition of "radically changed" differs from others..but...if you know enough about basketball..you should have been able to see this coming. You think people don't understand your point...we do..we overstand your point..it's just that u may not understand the overall big picture of the effort that goes into balancing an online game and you definitely are a victim of the collateral damage of that pursuit.
    osk9
    If you made a 7'3 glass cleaning lock, which i have no idea if u did, you shouldn't even remotely be surprised that your player is brought back to reality. every 2k has a cheeser build and that cheeser build changes as the year goes on due to it being a cheeser build. I do not care if you chose that build organically or not. You put time an effort into building a guy that was not going to remain as dominant, that's life. Go get a degree for a job that is obsolete when you graduate and you will feel cheated by your lack of foresight. Is it fair? no...but there's always the option of learning the ACTUAL ins and outs of being a gigantic athlete in a dynamic sport. You will have advantages and disadvantages..but you will not have the same advantages as someone that has a 5'7 pg AND that of a giant.
    I do agree that it sucks when your build gets nerfed..but it should happen and im sure it will happen to other builds. I do not believe that the giant bigs have been unfairly nerfed. You got what you paid/grinded for...the same amount of upside as you should have had in the beginning. I guess your definition of "radically changed" differs from others..but...if you know enough about basketball..you should have been able to see this coming. You think people don't understand your point...we do..we overstand your point..it's just that u may not understand the overall big picture of the effort that goes into balancing an online game and you definitely are a victim of the collateral damage of that pursuit.

    No I made a 7ft2 shooter/def(red/green). I know that he should be slower. Thats never been an argument. The fact is 2k for the last 3 years(17,18,19) has let these 7ft3 big men run free. When i heard they were slowed down at launch i was excited...then they went back on thier word... So i made my 7ft2 guy thinking it was fine( plus it was needed to really make these 7ft3 big men conistently miss down low). Then they went back on thier word again LOL. My problem is only that 2k keeps changing gameplay. Keep it consistent and make us play the game. 2K is the only game that feels like multiple games throughout the year depending on the patch LOL
    osk9
    Go get a degree for a job that is obsolete when you graduate and you will feel cheated by your lack of foresight.

    damn, then i can go try and get a degree for a new job invented the very next year, then they'll change that job again right as im finishing my new degree again
    that comparison doesn't really work, id be pissed off if i had a build or player that i thought worked a certain way in a game, then i grinded and potentially payed for it to get better, then they changed it drastically, and its a yearly game? im sorry but id simply say screw you to the game company, they should know how to balance their game properly by now after 20 years of making the game, i mean, its not like their distracted on other areas like how to monetize the game to hell right?
    alabamarob
    The help defense slider in the coaching slider section works wonders. Can only change it in game or in mlo.
    You cool with rebounding?

    Thank's for that, forgot all about that slider...it actually helps.
    I actually can't remember the last time I raged at rebounding. I don't think anything has changed outside of me doing more manual rebounding....but I play the Rockets next..I'll keep you posted.
    olajuwon34
    damn, then i can go try and get a degree for a new job invented the very next year, then they'll change that job again right as im finishing my new degree again
    that comparison doesn't really work, id be pissed off if i had a build or player that i thought worked a certain way in a game, then i grinded and potentially payed for it to get better, then they changed it drastically, and its a yearly game? im sorry but id simply say screw you to the game company, they should know how to balance their game properly by now after 20 years of making the game, i mean, its not like their distracted on other areas like how to monetize the game to hell right?

    Exactly! Only thing id add is that when they come out with a game. Stick with the thought process you had. Stick with the gameplay and what shots work and what badges work. The only things that should be changed are game breaking type of things. Yes I agree with the change that 2k made with the speed. What i dont agree with is the timing. RIP to all those who made a build day 1 and are affected by this.
    I've been on a half day and have been buried in 2k20 for the last couple of hours.
    I dont know of the speed change had a trickle down effect or if the "other fixes" is what has made the difference but man is the game playing good. I'm having a lot of fun playing.
    Pace needs to stay right where it is
    awg811
    Can’t join friends parks without being switched to a build that is not t ready for online play.
    Then if you have two people in a squad, when the 3rd opens their phone to except the squad invite they get dashboarded.
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

    Join through the phone to avoid switching builds
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    The 24th Letter
    I've been on a half day and have been buried in 2k20 for the last couple of hours.
    I dont know of the speed change had a trickle down effect or if the "other fixes" is what has made the difference but man is the game playing good. I'm having a lot of fun playing.
    Pace needs to stay right where it is

    yup yup...
    olajuwon34
    damn, then i can go try and get a degree for a new job invented the very next year, then they'll change that job again right as im finishing my new degree again
    that comparison doesn't really work, id be pissed off if i had a build or player that i thought worked a certain way in a game, then i grinded and potentially payed for it to get better, then they changed it drastically, and its a yearly game? im sorry but id simply say screw you to the game company, they should know how to balance their game properly by now after 20 years of making the game, i mean, its not like their distracted on other areas like how to monetize the game to hell right?

    But they COULD change that job again and it could not suit your education, suddenly..and thats what happens in the real world all the time. I don't think it's fair, I agree with all of you. The consumer is not at fault for an improperly balanced game. All games are different all throughout their lifespan these days..and this is a problem with many games, not just this one. The simple concept of paying for something for it to be switched is ****ty, but if you and me both paid the same amount..and they nerfed yours to benefit you in a more comparable way to mine, I'd be happy, you'd be sad. You were initially MORE happy with your investment than I was and got a greater return on your investment, thats not right either. Is the game balanced? maybe not..but it's more balanced than it was and im cool with that.
    The bottom line..if your big was fast..and that was a selling point..you screwed yourself..if your playmaker was an overpowered dribble god and you thought that was worth investing in..and they nerfed it..to make it a more balanced character..you didnt get screwed, you were adjusted to balance your investment with others. You can still use your 7'3 monster..he's just slower now..he's still tall though..and if you grind him right and actually can play this game..you'll be fine.
    ps..I have a paint beast..i grinded him for hours..im totally ok with the nerf.
    swaggerUcanes
    Exactly! Only thing id add is that when they come out with a game. Stick with the thought process you had. Stick with the gameplay and what shots work and what badges work. The only things that should be changed are game breaking type of things. Yes I agree with the change that 2k made with the speed. What i dont agree with is the timing. RIP to all those who made a build day 1 and are affected by this.

    Games are never perfect coming out the box..thats unfortunate, but a reality..they change. You have what you asked for..a giant dude..THAT USED TO BE GAME BREAKING. Now he's not..he's normal..you still have him..they just defined him more by a realistic gauge of what a big should and shouldn't be able to do. Should you be upset? sure. Do you have a case for a grievance..very debatable.
    I respect you for presenting your argument and have enjoyed communicating with you..lol..I just define value differently and so do the people that make this game.
    405Cowboy
    Still can't notice anything. No statement uniforms. Missing easy open shots, bump into a defender and the ball gets stolen, under the basket big man gets shot deflected from opposing point guard (previous 2k games would have been a foul) now no whistle blow. These idiots can't do anything right.

    I'm thinking 2k won't release new uniforms until they debut during the season. I could be wrong but I wouldn't worry much about that.
    ELPAGA
    Did they they fix the pregame rituals not working

    Nope.....neither when you go to the vc office and receive your check bug, you still aren't credited vc to your account
    jk31
    you think after 10 years where we are seeing disconnects online now they fix this? problem is that every year another thing is forcing these disconnects. in 2k10 you were not allowed to dunk right beneath the basket or it would result in a disconnect. in 2k13 if you ran a fastbreak and tried do start a layup/dunk at the freethrow line, it would disconnect.
    since 2k17 the game will very likely disconnect if you change your matchups or defensive settings in the pause menu.
    Remeber the one year a timeout would set off the court lights and it would drop
    MasonOS95
    Remeber the one year a timeout would set off the court lights and it would drop
    Remember when a timeout during a free throw. Wouldn't let the user see his shooter.... Lol.... Remember.... It's still in the game.
    How many fist bumps does a coach get? I've lost count.
    Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk
    tuckermaine
    Do I ..or should I start my league over because of patch...another words will I still get the benefits from patch if I continue league..?
    Not at all bro (or sis)...seeing that I don't know you lol. But none of that Madden crap where you have to restart or delete a profile after every patch. Just proceed on my friend and enjoy...if anything ever needs to be restarted to transfer over they usually put it in the patch note (when they finally release the notes lol)
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    Not at all bro (or sis)...seeing that I don't know you lol. But none of that Madden crap where you have to restart or delete a profile after every patch. Just proceed on my friend and enjoy...if anything ever needs to be restarted to transfer over they usually put it in the patch note (when they finally release the notes lol)
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Thanks for reply ...loving up some 2k since Madden 20 ruined in my opinion gameplay ..no more cpu special Ballcarrier moves ect...anyway I’m an old cat here..not a “sis” lol ..but thanks again for responding
    tuckermaine
    Thanks for reply ...loving up some 2k since Madden 20 ruined in my opinion gameplay ..no more cpu special Ballcarrier moves ect...anyway I’m an old cat here..not a “sis” lol ..but thanks again for responding
    No problem bro! Old head here too lol. 2K is legit this year!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Gameplay is smooooooth after this update. By far the best version of 2k20 and I hope to God they keep it like this.
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    bateman11
    Gameplay is smooooooth after this update. By far the best version of 2k20 and I hope to God they keep it like this.
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

    Agreed, really appreciate the paint defend post patch.
    Koosa1027
    Not at all bro (or sis)...seeing that I don't know you lol. But none of that Madden crap where you have to restart or delete a profile after every patch. Just proceed on my friend and enjoy...if anything ever needs to be restarted to transfer over they usually put it in the patch note (when they finally release the notes lol)
    ~Koosa10:27~

    Moooooost of the time.
    Existing MLO files never got City Jerseys or shoes added last year. Every other mode (including OFFLINE MyLeague) got them pushed through.

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