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NBA 2K20 Patch 1.03 Available - Patch Notes Here

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NBA 2K20 Patch 1.03 Available - Patch Notes Here

NBA 2K20 game update 1.03 was released earlier today, check out the patch notes below and let us know what you’re seeing.

Patch Size

  • PS4 – 24GB
  • Xbox One – 38GB

Patch Notes

  • Fixed a major issue that was causing the game to hang at intermittent times (e.g. when accessing the VIP Stats menu, when completing games in Domination, when playing Play Now Online games, and more).
  • Addressed a number of issues in MyCAREER to greatly improve the user experience in that mode.
  • Fixed an issue where some MyPLAYER names would disappear (may need to create a new build to correct existing saves).
  • Numerous Gameplay improvements & fixes including: support for standing stepback escapes and finishing alley-oops with Pro Stick, out of bounds awareness improvements, more reliable interior shot defense contact detection, logic fixes for certain badges, and much more.
  • Addressed an exploit that allowed users to play players out of position in MyTEAM.
  • Fixed an issue where some users were reporting they were not receiving the correct reward cards from Domination games in MyTEAM.
  • Fixed an issue where some users were not receiving their awards when achieving new Collector Levels in MyTEAM.
  • Many, many more fixes included to improve the overall experience of NBA 2K20!
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  1. Can someone see if anything in MyGM got changed? Like being able to change the difficulty, quarter length, and custom rosters?
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    Good stuff 2K. Mike Wang if you're reading this, can you adjust the Key Zoom option on the 2K Low cam a little closer? Close enough to where we don't see the shot clock above the rim similar to the Drive cam Key Zoom?
    If not, are you able to add in a custom Key Zoom option so we the users can adjust the Key Zoom to our liking? I know you have a lot on your plate but any response would be appreciated.
    Love the game. The only gripe I have is the occasional random sliding into position to receive passes mainly during inbound passes. This has been happening for years. If this can be fixed, 2K20 gameplay would be a masterpiece in my opinion.
    Just finished watching the CPU vs. CPU on default All-Star. Will need to get a bigger sample size for sure, but not really sure I like what I'm seeing.
    The game now once again seems VERY much in favor of the offense. Saw more green releases than pre-patch. Hawks had 84 PIP and Blazeres 72 PIP. Ball security also seems tighter after the update, so only saw the usual typical handful of turnovers from each team.
    Again, it's only one game but it looked like the game moved closer to 2K19 but without the stone-walling.
    kongemeier
    The Shot Under Basket Tendency to 99 glitch seems to have been fixed :y220d:
    I'm so surprised!!

    Is this 100%? Awesome if true. What about gleague rating increases and team options?
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    ELPAGA
    3 big updates in a week from release

    Would you rather them not fix anything? Because they're told when to release. They can't just push back the release date. I don't know how your job works, but when you have a firm deadline you hit it.
    LowerWolf
    I'm thinking a patch this big, it's probably a good idea to go ahead and restart my MyLeague.

    Why would you restart? Ain’t no way I am putting in the hours to set up game again. I would just not play anymore.
    I don’t have the time to do that, so I hope I don’t have to
    This is the best 2k in a long time but does anybody else feel a lot of input lag? I dont know if it's this or just long animations your stuck in but i don't like it.
    2 things.
    1. Did anyone else have to re-download and install the entire game? I turned on my xbox 20 mins ago and it was downloading and installing a whole new 76gb file not the 35gb file that all other xbox one users have reported.
    2. Those patch notes are borderline insulting. They literally dont tell you ANYTHING. Like wtf is "Many, many more fixes included to improve the overall experience of NBA 2K20!" LMAOOO wtf is that?!!!
    HBKSean216
    2 things.
    1. Did anyone else have to re-download and install the entire game? I turned on my xbox 20 mins ago and it was downloading and installing a whole new 76gb file not the 35gb file that all other xbox one users have reported.
    2. Those patch notes are borderline insulting. They literally dont tell you ANYTHING. Like wtf is "Many, many more fixes included to improve the overall experience of NBA 2K20!" LMAOOO wtf is that?!!!

    I'm on xbox and did not have to re-download the entire game again and yeah the patch notes were not detailed and specific enough.
    kongemeier
    The Shot Under Basket Tendency to 99 glitch seems to have been fixed :y220d:
    I'm so surprised!!

    Yeah, I just finished my first test on that glitch. Imagine my surprise when things didn't go south lol. We didn't get the fix in 2K19, so at least they did that much for us. Now if they can just fix a few more things, MyLeague gonna be straight.
    Two freakin huge file updates this week!!
    This was the first time ever in 2k where they reset my custom rosters and custom sliders/settings/2k tracks because "files were corrupted" WTF!!!
    Game seems to lag at times especially on jump ball and WTF is wrong the fast break. Seems like the defense is on 100 speed while my team is on walkers!
    Also another random one of my guys gets the rebound but as he's coming down he steps out of bounds. That crap used to happen all the time in 2k16 now it's back in 2k20??
    Also when I first got the game I had no commentary, just the pregame and the David Aldridge on the sideline. After the first update I now have commentary.
    The 2k team must have been on crack when they made the game this year. I can imagine what they've done with WWE 2k this year. Thank God I got a real wrestling game in Fire Pro Wrestling World!
    "Fixed an issue where some MyPLAYER names would disappear (may need to create a new build to correct existing saves)"
    The patch didn't fix the name issue for me so their answer is creating a new build? Do they not understand how long it takes to build up your MyPlayer? I'd rather go nameless than do all that BS again
    rlb1976
    "Fixed an issue where some MyPLAYER names would disappear (may need to create a new build to correct existing saves)"
    The patch didn't fix the name issue for me so their answer is creating a new build? Do they not understand how long it takes to build up your MyPlayer? I'd rather go nameless than do all that BS again


    You just need to create in builder mode like in the video, shouldn't take more than 2 mins. Although this extra step shouldn't be on our end.
    I just played 1 game and It may just be me, but gameplay felt like it was back to where it was on day1, which is a good thing. Now it will take more than 1 full game to know for sure, but early results seem promising.
    CaseIH
    I just played 1 game and It may just be me, but gameplay felt like it was back to where it was on day1, which is a good thing. Now it will take more than 1 full game to know for sure, but early results seem promising.
    I disagree. Plays just like 2K19 did I feel now. It's not the game I bought last week
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    Good patch! I like that they clean up some bad transition defense which was my biggest gripe.....player movement is good and the overall aggressiveness from the CPU is on point..
    I will find the right combination of sliders and I will start my franchise..
    Overall I'm pleased
    Good Job 2k!
    Mark Price can't get passed Ben Simmons now. A 6'10 Ben Simmons is locking down 6'0 NBA All Star Mark Price on the perimeter. Was blowing by bigs last week.
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    tyberious4now
    Good patch! I like that they clean up some bad transition defense which was my biggest gripe.....player movement is good and the overall aggressiveness from the CPU is on point..
    I will find the right combination of sliders and I will start my franchise..
    Overall I'm pleased
    Good Job 2k!

    What do u think about the stuttering after this patch? It seems much improved to me but not sure if I’m just going nuts about it lol I know you’ve been on the stutter train with me, nice to see u say it was a good patch
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    Gotmadskillzson
    Game don't feel the same anymore like it did on Day 1. Players feel way lighter, like they don't have weight to them now.

    ugh...I don't like reading this...I need to try the game out myself...
    buckeyezombie
    I disagree. Plays just like 2K19 did I feel now. It's not the game I bought last week
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    This is true. 2K19 all over again.
    Goffs
    Thank you and this is much better.
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    They just removed the (terrible) hair and reverted to the same cyberface as always.
    Seems like he was never scanned or he might not be interested in being re - scanned.
    P.S. I never personally had any issue with his cyberface to begin with. I understand that certain people want every player updated annually even if that isn't realistic.
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    MoneyOvaHuds
    Naw the game feels lighter post patch , some weight still but Def lighter and faster
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    Yeah not happy about that but I'll compare to NBA pace when the season starts.
    I might also lower the speed slider,
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    You guys talking about online or offline? Offline I just played one quarter and the footplanting feels solid to me. It actually looks like its been cleaned up some. Some of the dribbling animations looks to be cleaned up some as well.
    It might be because I tried it out on PC where I'm using a 144hz monitor so the gameplay to me feels real smooth. I have yet to try the console version.
    No icons mod...no green splash and it's easy to tell who you're controlling since the name shows up for a few seconds. I was shocked that the takeover icon still shows up...
    I swear I've seen more full court shots in this 1 week than I've seen in all of 2K19.
    I don't what it is but every time a full court shot goes up at the end of the quarter I swear that **** is going in.
    Guys - Does this patch truly make the game worse? I just bought it but have not opened it yet. I liked how the demo felt as far as weight to players and I'm nervous they buckled and went backwards. Please tell me this is not true..
    AstrosAllDay85
    What do u think about the stuttering after this patch? It seems much improved to me but not sure if I’m just going nuts about it lol I know you’ve been on the stutter train with me, nice to see u say it was a good patch
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    Really? I just played my first quarter post patch and it is definitely still stuttering for me. This is really annoying and I worry if they will ever address this. Not sure they are even aware of this issue on PS4 Pro?!
    NINJAK2
    Guys - Does this patch truly make the game worse? I just bought it but have not opened it yet. I liked how the demo felt as far as weight to players and I'm nervous they buckled and went backwards. Please tell me this is not true..

    Well it is definitely not the same speed it use to be. The speed is more of what it is NBA 2K19. Before today's patch, moves were more deliberate, the weight was heavier, so when a player got faked out, they couldn't instant recover.
    On the flip side, fast breaks work better, so that is a positive where as before it felt like too many defenders caught up to you. Game been out a week and been patched 3 times. So might as well hop in and play it because at the rate 2K is patching this year, you might get another 6 or 7 patches before October hits.
    There is fun to be had. Me personally, as a PC offline player though, the game was HEAVEN on day 1. 3 patches later, it is fun. So it depends on what mode you play. The graphical upgrade alone is worth the purchase.
    Game still feels good to me on offline/all-star. I think some of y'all are overreacting a bit. I can tell a difference but it's not as bad as some of what I've read.
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    NINJAK2
    Guys - Does this patch truly make the game worse? I just bought it but have not opened it yet. I liked how the demo felt as far as weight to players and I'm nervous they buckled and went backwards. Please tell me this is not true..
    The game is better than the demo
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    kurt2134
    Game still feels good to me on offline/all-star. I think some of y'all are overreacting a bit. I can tell a difference but it's not as bad as some of what I've read.
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    Kind of giggling at the "I'm scared" posts lol.
    It's a videogame man.
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    NINJAK2
    Guys - Does this patch truly make the game worse? I just bought it but have not opened it yet. I liked how the demo felt as far as weight to players and I'm nervous they buckled and went backwards. Please tell me this is not true..

    Ive only played 1 full game, but this patch seemed to improve it from the last update they did. Some of the same issues, as in yrs past, exist, if your a offline player. Like a lack of fouls for example, but if you enjoyed the game in the past, I cant imagine you would be disappointed with NBA2k20. IMO anyway, I think 2k20 is much better than 2k19 was, but thats just me, some may feel differently.
    NINJAK2
    Guys - Does this patch truly make the game worse? I just bought it but have not opened it yet. I liked how the demo felt as far as weight to players and I'm nervous they buckled and went backwards. Please tell me this is not true..
    Bro open your game. . .
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    RedmanR
    Bro open your game. . .
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    LoL. Ok Redman. Once you open these games can't get money back(Madden 20 pc got me bitter). Once I download patch hopefully I can play Saturday for myself.
    NINJAK2
    LoL. Ok Redman. Once you open these games can't get money back(Madden 20 pc got me bitter). Once I download patch hopefully I can play Saturday for myself.

    Just play man and have fun.
    Its so many agendas flying around on the internet right now, its not worth getting caught up in
    I noticed they updated Zach LaVine, Jokic as well as Jerrod Vanderbilt. LaVine looks off still, but at least his eyes aren't as strange as before. He looks really jacked up though when he talks at halftime lol. Jokic is just back to 2k19's model (with longer arms) and they fixed Vanderbilt's neck. He's still way too swole though. Idk if anyone else was updated.
    The other things I've noticed through 2 games, the game speed is way up, definitely feels like the intent was to appease those who god forbid couldn't let go of turbo. Not a fan.
    Green releases are even easier than before, even on Superstar and Hall of Fame.
    They changed the dribble controls so that back on the left stick and R2 + flick back on right stick do the exact same stepback escape dribble rather than R2 + flick right stick doing a behind the back wrap dribble. Now to do the wrap behind the back you hold R2 + flick right back left or right (7:30 or 4:30 if you use absolute)
    I guess they felt you cant bring the turbo guys to the left stick so you had to bring the left stick move to the turbo guy lol.
    I'm pleasantly surprised about the 99 under basket tendency bug fix. Gives me hope.
    Them changing gameplay and balance aspects 5 minutes after the game comes out is why I’m skipping this year. Dudes find out the game is different from last year and immediately complain to make it the same lmao. Won’t be surprised if 2k20 ends up being 2k19 again once the Youtube and Twitter 2k community gets through spamming the devs on social media
    UnbelievablyRAW
    Them changing gameplay and balance aspects 5 minutes after the game comes out is why I’m skipping this year. Dudes find out the game is different from last year and immediately complain to make it the same lmao. Won’t be surprised if 2k20 ends up being 2k19 again once the Youtube and Twitter 2k community gets through spamming the devs on social media

    Then you can skip the whole decade because they'll keep doing that as long as they get their revenue from the MyPark community.
    Mikelopedia
    I noticed they updated Zach LaVine, Jokic as well as Jerrod Vanderbilt. LaVine looks off still, but at least his eyes aren't as strange as before. He looks really jacked up though when he talks at halftime lol. Jokic is just back to 2k19's model (with longer arms) and they fixed Vanderbilt's neck. He's still way too swole though. Idk if anyone else was updated.
    The other things I've noticed through 2 games, the game speed is way up, definitely feels like the intent was to appease those who god forbid couldn't let go of turbo. Not a fan.
    Green releases are even easier than before, even on Superstar and Hall of Fame.
    They changed the dribble controls so that back on the left stick and R2 + flick back on right stick do the exact same stepback escape dribble rather than R2 + flick right stick doing a behind the back wrap dribble. Now to do the wrap behind the back you hold R2 + flick right back left or right (7:30 or 4:30 if you use absolute)
    I guess they felt you cant bring the turbo guys to the left stick so you had to bring the left stick move to the turbo guy lol.
    I'm pleasantly surprised about the 99 under basket tendency bug fix. Gives me hope.

    Yea I was practising the new way to trigger the behind the back wrap in the freestyle mode...the speed curry did it at is comical this is way too fast.
    The l stick isn’t that responsive so I understand the change but this speed here has the animations looking like their played at 2x. Just hold r2 and run around the court in freestyle mode lol smh. I know if I go over to reddit and twitter nobody asked for this do they really just take feedback from youtubers?
    UnbelievablyRAW
    Them changing gameplay and balance aspects 5 minutes after the game comes out is why I’m skipping this year. Dudes find out the game is different from last year and immediately complain to make it the same lmao. Won’t be surprised if 2k20 ends up being 2k19 again once the Youtube and Twitter 2k community gets through spamming the devs on social media

    The only people who keep saying this are people who havent played the game yet.
    Most will agree the gameplay is worlds better than 19
    Its the online players who have the big issues. Sure everyone has one or two things they feel could be better but there hasnt been a better basketball game made gameplay wise til this day better than 2k20 and that's not even a debate.
    Smirkin Dirk
    I can't feel a speed difference at all offline.

    I can but some of it might have been smoothed out with the patch.
    Then again i had the game before anything, Day 1, 1st update and everything else
    23
    I can but some of it might have been smoothed out with the patch.
    Then again i had the game before anything, Day 1, 1st update and everything else

    Some of the animations may be a bit quicker? It's hard to tell.
    23
    The only people who keep saying this are people who havent played the game yet.
    Most will agree the gameplay is worlds better than 19
    Its the online players who have the big issues. Sure everyone has one or two things they feel could be better but there hasnt been a better basketball game made gameplay wise til this day better than 2k20 and that's not even a debate.
    Facts
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    Smirkin Dirk
    Some of the animations may be a bit quicker? It's hard to tell.

    Not supposed to be. Mike said he sped up dribbling but said he dialed back the speed, however people say its faster and it seems that way to me too.
    Like i said before, the speed shouldve never been touched soon in the first place.
    No one was complaining but online cheesey whiny crybabies.
    To people saying NBA 2k20 is something different to NBA 2k19, if you're on PC, check the bloody game icon. It's reads bloody NBA 2k19!!!
    The devs are so lazy they didn't even bother to change that lol.
    Yes, NBA 2k20 is just patched up NBA 2k19. Period. With much more microtransactions and casino mechanics added to the game.
    I guess, people won't accept the sad truth, that you are giving money to most corrupt company nowadays. I stopped with NBA 2k18. 2K won't see my money unless they change their antics.
    Make MyCareer SEPARATE from Online again. I want Offline MyCareer where I can reach OVR 90+ just by playing and not paying. I don't care about MyPark and Neighborhood. Last great MyCareer was in NBA 2k14 (in fact wasn't that the best NBA 2k game recently?)
    23
    I wanna ask Mike to add the walk the ball up court animation back but i feel like he won't answer me :lol:

    I think that is the park nerfs he talked about
    23
    I wanna ask Mike to add the walk the ball up court animation back but i feel like he won't answer me
    I was thinking the same exact thing. . .
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    Gotmadskillzson
    Game don't feel the same anymore like it did on Day 1. Players feel way lighter, like they don't have weight to them now.

    Correct. I feel exactly the same.
    Marc_Rez
    This is true. 2K19 all over again.

    Not entirely but at the moment i'm close to this thought.
    ksuttonjr76
    I can concur. Just played my first game in PNO. Felt like the game was on crack.

    Play Now Offline perspective on All Star/Superstar, i concur,too.
    MoneyOvaHuds
    Naw the game feels lighter post patch , some weight still but Def lighter and faster
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    It's been a while that they tune the speed back and forth and patch did no good on that side either, i feel the same with you.
    PS: The BIG 'Game like' patch did not fix PS4 Pro micro/macro stuttering and FPS drops either. Here 1.04 on the way as big as it is going to be.
    info0
    To people saying NBA 2k20 is something different to NBA 2k19, if you're on PC, check the bloody game icon. It's reads bloody NBA 2k19!!!
    The devs are so lazy they didn't even bother to change that lol.
    Yes, NBA 2k20 is just patched up NBA 2k19. Period. With much more microtransactions and casino mechanics added to the game.
    I guess, people won't accept the sad truth, that you are giving money to most corrupt company nowadays. I stopped with NBA 2k18. 2K won't see my money unless they change their antics.
    Make MyCareer SEPARATE from Online again. I want Offline MyCareer where I can reach OVR 90+ just by playing and not paying. I don't care about MyPark and Neighborhood. Last great MyCareer was in NBA 2k14 (in fact wasn't that the best NBA 2k game recently?)

    Do you have a picture of this? The icon
    Gameplay feels a bit too fast now for me and the players feel light. Preferred pre-patch.
    Also ran into an issue a few times since the update which is highly annoying - when dribbling, my player just starts to walk backwards with the ball and I can’t stop it. Results in a backcourt violation every time.
    Game is still to easy, even on HOF. Very few teams/players so far play like themselves.
    Assuming as always, need a complete tendency overhaul. Just played the Rockets vs Utah(user). James Harden and Eric Gordon(moved him to bench) shot 13 shots. Neither was aggressive. Westbrook drops 3s more consistent than any other player so far while being crazy contested. Also shot 26 times.
    Bucks is the only scary team to play against with the greek freak.
    Can we finally select uniforms and accessoires in MLO games? Can we see more than the first 33 friends when inviting someone to PNO or MLO? Do coach and controller settings stay when starting a MLO game?
    For those who think it's faster or lighter, what do you mean exactly? Skating, faster end to end movement, faster animations?
    Ive seen a few animations which may have been quicker, but not the other stuff. And Ive played with one team pre and post patch so I have a good frame of reference. Ill have a really close look in a couple of hours.
    Is double teaming bug fixed?
    I have no issue with doubles in the post, off pnr or iso but if my PG is hot (and by hot I mean 3 assists in a row) they double as soon as I inbound and in 3 passes I'm dunking. Kills so many tight enjoyable games I had where I win by 20 because I had 10 dunks in a row in the last 2 minutes
    Smirkin Dirk
    For those who think it's faster or lighter, what do you mean exactly? Skating, faster end to end movement, faster animations?
    Ive seen a few animations which may have been quicker, but not the other stuff. And Ive played with one team pre and post patch so I have a good frame of reference. Ill have a really close look in a couple of hours.

    I'm in agreement with Dirk. Finally got to try the console version and it feels the same as the PC version in terms of movement.
    I think what you guys are feeling is that the gameplay has been sped up some which makes it feel like that the players are lighter. Like I said earlier they cleaned up some of the dribbling animations to transition better. Looks good to me.
    Not as fast as 2k19 speed but with footplanting. TBH that's fine by me just as long defenders don't warp and magically end up in front of you. I've been playing play now quick games.
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    Pretty much all the complaints I've seen are from online/park people. Patches to appease them will likely affect the realism of the NBA aspect. I seriously would be on board with 2K making a separate game for the Park people who don't care at all about the NBA in the name.
    A lot of the complaints about the patch and the gameplay changes, specifically the speed, in animations and players themselves...really have me extremely concerned. The game in my opinion pre patch, had the best fluid and natural movement of the series. Players had weight in a way they never really had in any other iteration of 2k. Even on defense the weight and movement felt real and thus it was fun to defend. Players on the court behaved like NBA professionals, and you could realistically defend. There was lots of great defensive animations and on ball and off ball defense felt so realistic and rewarding. More than anything the game was Sim, and it was the most fun I've had playing 2k in years. I haven't been able to play since the big patch update yet, but I am extremely concerned that the update has changed all of that.
    I've been purchasing every 2k since the first one on Dreamcast. I remember being on here actually interacting with Mike Wang (Beluba) during the frenzy of excitement of the lead up to the release of 2k11. I remember Mike Wang visiting the "Attention to detail in the Jordan Challenge" thread, and actually engaging with us and involving us in the making of the game itself and it's gameplay and content. I personally had a few personal conversations with Mike via the Operation Sports Private Messager that directly revolved around specific gameplay suggestions and animations that were unique to Jordan, that were actually implemented into the final game. I felt directly involved and invested in the product. I felt listened to and my imput felt valued. I also felt that the developers interactions and transparency/availability with the Sim community, was directly responsible for 2k11 becoming the game it was. Gradually that level of control and influence on the final product, has shifted almost entirely to the YouTube channels and Park players which in some ways I get. But it sucks feeling ignored and abandoned. In some ways I'm feeling like an outdated relic, because I don't play My Player or Park. I am just a rabid fan of the game of basketball and have been for years. The reason why I gravitated so heavily towards 2k was because 2k was the sim alternative to the NBA Live franchise, which was much more sped up unrealistic arcade gameplay, that was not reflective of the actual NBA game. For the longest time NBA Live was the dominant force in basketball video gaming and 2k was the upstart that was trying to compete with the EA juggernaut. Fast forward to 2019 and 2k is more of a juggernaut then Live was and they have essentially beaten Live into retreat which they have done multiple times since the release of 2k11. I personally feel as though they have lost much of what made them different and special, what made them what they were. I remember the mission statement was to totally replicate NBA basketball in every aspect to mimic an NBA broadcast. In many ways in 2k20 we were closer to that original goal then ever before. NBA 2k19 was the first one I did not purchase after renting it and hating just about everything about the gameplay and I had very low expectations for 2k20. Now I have played it obsessively since launch and had some of the best games and moments I've had in years of playing this series.
    Shouldn't we be given the option to keep the game as it was? Maybe making My Player, My Career and Park a seperate game really is the answer. Because it really is two completely separate crowds demanding two completely separate gameplay experiences.
    mauro78
    Is the double teams glitch solved?
    CPU doubling you nonsense even before half court?

    I have played over 100 games and have never seen it in My League. Maybe play now it happens, but I have rarely seen it.
    Game still downloading since 8pm last night, so I can’t test things yet
    Imo the game speed is too fast and I had to turn it down between 40-45. I've been seeing some sliding here and there. I swear foot planting was much more evident pre updates.
    Smirkin Dirk
    For those who think it's faster or lighter, what do you mean exactly? Skating, faster end to end movement, faster animations?
    Ive seen a few animations which may have been quicker, but not the other stuff. And Ive played with one team pre and post patch so I have a good frame of reference. Ill have a really close look in a couple of hours.

    I do have a very good reference, too. I mostly played Pelicans since day1 offline at least 50 games, the speed and the feel of the game has changed 2 more times before patch, too. I’m that sensitive to those changes. The momentum of players, the weight, the speed differentiation is nowhere near the day1 version of the game. Now Zion and Lonzo can feel the same in terms of movement and heaviness.
    If you need further understanding just have another look at OG’s L stick video as i know you’ve seen it already and there the momentum, the heaviness, the footplanting, the crispy and different movements of the players in control is not possible anymore. They are on full skates. Clipping all over.
    ataman5
    I do have a very good reference, too. I mostly played Pelicans since day1 offline at least 50 games, the speed and the feel of the game has changed 2 more times before patch, too. I’m that sensitive to those changes. The momentum of players, the weight, the speed differentiation is nowhere near the day1 version of the game. Now Zion and Lonzo can feel the same in terms of movement and heaviness.
    If you need further understanding just have another look at OG’s L stick video as i know you’ve seen it already and there the momentum, the heaviness, the footplanting, the crispy and different movements of the players in control is not possible anymore. They are on full skates. Clipping all over.

    I sort of disagree. Slow players still feel slow, but not as good as Day 1. Day 1 was perfect, but I am still ok with game play. Let’s see how I feel after patch downloads
    ataman5
    I do have a very good reference, too. I mostly played Pelicans since day1 offline at least 50 games, the speed and the feel of the game has changed 2 more times before patch, too. I’m that sensitive to those changes. The momentum of players, the weight, the speed differentiation is nowhere near the day1 version of the game. Now Zion and Lonzo can feel the same in terms of movement and heaviness.
    If you need further understanding just have another look at OG’s L stick video as i know you’ve seen it already and there the momentum, the heaviness, the footplanting, the crispy and different movements of the players in control is not possible anymore. They are on full skates. Clipping all over.

    That was one of my favorite things about the game. 2006 Dwyane Wade felt lighter then LeBron James. When you played with 2006 Wade you felt his speed and athleticism but he still felt weighted. In contrast when you played with LeBron James you felt even more weighted but he wasn't lumbering around the court, he still had the speed and athleticism but it didn't feel artificial or weightless/sped up. You still felt his physical presence just moved at a quick locomotion like LeBron James actually does. I'm not interested in going back to weightless skating all over the court and unrealistically quick animations that look unnatural.
    WCBasketball
    I sort of disagree. Slow players still feel slow, but not as good as Day 1. Day 1 was perfect, but I am still ok with game play. Let’s see how I feel after patch downloads

    I’m talking after patch 3 now, so you may check back on that afterwards.
    LeBronistheKing
    That was one of my favorite things about the game. 2006 Dwyane Wade felt lighter then LeBron James. When you played with 2006 Wade you felt his speed and athleticism but he still felt weighted. In contrast when you played with LeBron James you felt even more weighted but he wasn't lumbering around the court, he still had the speed and athleticism but it didn't feel artificial or weightless/sped up. You still felt his physical presence just moved at a quick locomotion like LeBron James actually does. I'm not interested in going back to weightless skating all over the court and unrealistically quick animations that look unnatural.

    Yeap i intentionally tested different players on blacktop. My feelings exactly.
    ataman5
    I’m talking after patch 3 now, so you may check back on that afterwards.

    The issue is some guys are seeing things in Play Now and I only play in my league. No other modes, so I try to figure where guys are playing to test. I thought it was a little too fast last night before patch, but I pushed up sim slider for Pace a ton. My game speed is at 50. How low do you have it?
    WCBasketball
    The issue is some guys are seeing things in Play Now and I only play in my league. No other modes, so I try to figure where guys are playing to test. I thought it was a little too fast last night before patch, but I pushed up sim slider for Pace a ton. My game speed is at 50. How low do you have it?

    All my gameplays are default all star/superstar nothing changed ever.
    I played a couple hours this morning. I still think the gameplay is pretty great. I was having hard time guarding DeRozan at first, he did feel a bit quicker than maybe what he should've been but after playing a bit I got used to it. Gameplay feels different than 2k19 to me, I think it's better.
    VERY happy to hear under the basket tendency glitch has been fixed. Really hope they can continue to work out the bugs in MyLeague. Even though I usually buy the game day 1 this is another reason to wait for opening day rosters before I really get my MyLeague started every year. Not only does it give me more players to possibly draft when I do my annual fantasy draft BUT it also gives a bit of time for some bugs to hopefully be ironed out.
    I don't think I've ever been completely unsatisfied with an NBA 2k purchase and I've owned every one with the exceptions of 2K, 2k1, and 2K6. Some years are better than others but I always get my money's worth....I don't ever buy additional VC though.
    Just took Lebron for a spin. He still has that big plant when taking off from a stop and needs 2-4 steps when stopping. Weightiness is still there. Is he quicker in a straight line? I don't know. Maybe.
    After patch, I'm not noticing a real change in speed tbh. All Star default off line Play Now...
    I am noticing the cpu is not calling timeouts again. Picked random teams and the Hawks were down 20 to the Nets (me) in the 2nd qtr I had multiple players hot and the cpu never called a TO. Before this patch the cpu was calling multiple timeouts even early in the 1st qtr.
    Also, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the update but the cpu offense is just bad. First six possessions of the game Tray Young dribbled the entire possession forcing his way into the paint for contested layups. I even had Kevin Heuter, Jabari Parker, and Evan Turner dribble entire possessions trying to get into the paint before shooting a contested shot right before a shot clock violation. Dribbling 20 seconds of the shot clock.
    buckeyezombie
    Yes it's gone
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    Thanks can you explain a little better how CPU double teams now?
    Does it feel more realistic?
    Did they jus toned it down?
    Bootzilla
    After patch, I'm not noticing a real change in speed tbh. All Star default off line Play Now...
    I am noticing the cpu is not calling timeouts again. Picked random teams and the Hawks were down 20 to the Nets (me) in the 2nd qtr I had multiple players hot and the cpu never called a TO. Before this patch the cpu was calling multiple timeouts even early in the 1st qtr.
    Also, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the update but the cpu offense is just bad. First six possessions of the game Tray Young dribbled the entire possession forcing his way into the paint for contested layups. I even had Kevin Heuter, Jabari Parker, and Evan Turner dribble entire possessions trying to get into the paint before shooting a contested shot right before a shot clock violation. Dribbling 20 seconds of the shot clock.

    Pre Patch 3 CPU was calling TO’s too much imo
    Smirkin Dirk
    Just took Lebron for a spin. He still has that big plant when taking off from a stop and needs 2-4 steps when stopping. Weightiness is still there. Is he quicker in a straight line? I don't know. Maybe.

    He is Dirk not maybe he is.
    ataman5
    He is Dirk not maybe he is.

    See i disagree. I play with LBJ and he feels fine.
    I play OKC next so will watch certain players there
    I traded Love there, so will watch him and Paul
    Smirkin Dirk
    Just took Lebron for a spin. He still has that big plant when taking off from a stop and needs 2-4 steps when stopping. Weightiness is still there. Is he quicker in a straight line? I don't know. Maybe.
    I've gotten about 2 Play Now Online and 2 Play Now Offline games in this morning with a variety of teams.
    Dejounte Murray is still slow and deliberate with the ball, while Russ is still a blur. Gilbert Arenas is still shify around picks.
    Mismatches can definitely still be exploited. You know If anything I'm going to test out the dribble, post/faceup game and you can still catch defenders planting their feet and get them off balance. That weightiness is still there for me.
    Whether or not there has been some unintended speed shift, I'm not feeling it. I think the core of the game has been preserved, and I'm personally still enjoying it.
    The 24th Letter
    I've gotten about 2 Play Now Online and 2 Play Now Offline games in this morning with a variety of teams.
    Dejounte Murray is still slow and deliberate with the ball, while Russ is still a blur. Gilbert Arenas is still shify around picks.
    Mismatches can definitely still be exploited. You know If anything I'm going to test out the dribble, post/faceup game and you can still catch defenders planting their feet and get them off balance. That weightiness is still there for me.
    Whether or not there has been some unintended speed shift, I'm not feeling it. I think the core of the game has been preserved, and I'm personally still enjoying it.

    I agree. Don’t see much of difference. I’m happy about this.......
    The game isn't going to feel how it did to you Day 1.
    Of course it feels faster now than it did to you on Day 1. It was a completely new game with an entirely different movement system from 19 and it was your first time playing it. A week later of playing the game, you've most likely adjusted to the game speed now and are just better at the game.
    Hustle Westbrook
    The game isn't going to feel how it did to you Day 1.
    Of course it feels faster now than it did to you on Day 1. It was a completely new game with an entirely different movement system from 19 and it was your first time playing it. A week later of playing the game, you've most likely adjusted to the game speed now and are just better at the game.

    This is not it at all cuz the game felt like day one the night before the patch
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    mauro78
    Thanks can you explain a little better how CPU double teams now?
    Does it feel more realistic?
    Did they jus toned it down?

    It’s toned down. I haven’t seen the full court double in a long time and it takes longer for a hot player to be doubled. That said, dumping the ball into the post for a player like Blake will result in a double team at times which is just smart. I have zero issues with double teams right now.
    rudyjuly2
    It’s toned down. I haven’t seen the full court double in a long time and it takes longer for a hot player to be doubled. That said, dumping the ball into the post for a player like Blake will result in a double team at times which is just smart. I have zero issues with double teams right now.

    Thanks even in Play Now mode?
    I'm seeing Superstar cheese that wasn't there before. Specifically, so much paint cheese, as another poster mentioned. The ability to protect the paint is something that I praised on release, but it seems to have been nerfed. I'm dropping to All-Star.
    rudyjuly2
    It’s toned down. I haven’t seen the full court double in a long time and it takes longer for a hot player to be doubled. That said, dumping the ball into the post for a player like Blake will result in a double team at times which is just smart. I have zero issues with double teams right now.
    I gots NO issues with doubling either. . .
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    Honest impressions compared to day one gameplay for an offline SIM-head. I play 11-12 minute quarters on HOF.
    The speed SEEMS like it MIGHT be a hair faster. However, are they outta control, on skates, or doing anything odd like some people have eluded to on this thread? No. The fast guys are still faster than the slower guys. The separation between athletic freaks and average players is still there, and prominent.
    Turbo still needs to be utilized when appropriate or you will get tired or lack explosion. I still love how that is implemented and how you can time a burst and feels the players explode. Has a realistic feeling to it this year.
    Shooting has become easier, which I expected -- Much more greens for the CPU and I. I'm not a fan, but if this is what I have to deal with to have gameplay damn near day 1's, I'm okay with it.
    Inside shots drop more often and green much more often as well. Reggie Jackson laid the ball up over Russell Westbrook and Clint Capela. I was usering Capela and it probably would've been swallowed pre-patch as it should have been, but he somehow got the ball over me and went in. I see this being something people complain about in the future.
    Jumpball feels a little more fluid. It still feels slightly delayed but its more like 1 second delay vs. 2 second delay.
    Overall, I am VERY pleased with the patch. Prior to the patch, we had the "update required" on the screen and it felt different and sticky, like 2K19 before the patch dropped. Now it feels closer to day one with shooting enhancements and easier ability to finish over bigs. I'm excited to play the game again.
    I'd recommend all my sim-heads to give it a shot. The good gameplay is still there with minor differences that are tolerable.
    Nevertheles109
    Honest impressions compared to day one gameplay for an offline SIM-head. I play 11-12 minute quarters on HOF.
    The speed SEEMS like it MIGHT be a hair faster. However, are they outta control, on skates, or doing anything odd like some people have eluded to on this thread? No. The fast guys are still faster than the slower guys. The separation between athletic freaks and average players is still there, and prominent.
    Turbo still needs to be utilized when appropriate or you will get tired or lack explosion. I still love how that is implemented and how you can time a burst and feels the players explode. Has a realistic feeling to it this year.
    Shooting has become easier, which I expected -- Much more greens for the CPU and I. I'm not a fan, but if this is what I have to deal with to have gameplay damn near day 1's, I'm okay with it.
    Inside shots drop more often and green much more often as well. Reggie Jackson laid the ball up over Russell Westbrook and Clint Capela. I was usering Capela and it probably would've been swallowed pre-patch as it should have been, but he somehow got the ball over me and went in. I see this being something people complain about in the future.
    Jumpball feels a little more fluid. It still feels slightly delayed but its more like 1 second delay vs. 2 second delay.
    Overall, I am VERY pleased with the patch. Prior to the patch, we had the "update required" on the screen and it felt different and sticky, like 2K19 before the patch dropped. Now it feels closer to day one with shooting enhancements and easier ability to finish over bigs. I'm excited to play the game again.
    I'd recommend all my sim-heads to give it a shot. The good gameplay is still there with minor differences that are tolerable.

    First game post patch. Fox is blowing by Spurs how he should. I dropped speed from 50-48 and it’s perfect.
    Not one crazy double yet. Really had to run my offense.
    Fox has 19-4-6 at half. Star players play how they should.
    Shooting does seem easier, but I need at times to get CPU to NBA Averages
    This is a post I respect. Things like jump ball. Stuff that matters. D a lot tighter even if some guys are a tad quicker than they should be on the bump
    I had a guard over guard a little easy in the post. But, guards aren’t getting much if a good big like AD is in there
    I like the game post patch. I can still beat Hof cpu defenders off the drrible and create space for jumpers. However, offensive Rebounding is still OP.
    The best improvement to me is the right stick contest. You can now slide your feet on drives to the rim and right stick contest, while still staying between the man driving towards the rim.
    Speed changes are not imaginary because you can look at Mike's Twitter if you're in doubt
    I had the game before the day 1 patch and I know it's different. I didn't see this kind of sliding albeit not a ton, speed overall to the pace, and the AI behave certain ways like drive and kick was evident.
    I don't even think the AI kicks it back out after rebounds anymore.
    I put up videos and clips I can reference so I'm definitely not tripping.
    Sky is not falling and this is not 2k19 but there is no placebo here. It's the exact reason people didn't want Mike finagling with the game less than 24 hours after release.
    I hadn't touched a single slider, now I feel like I have to.
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    23
    Speed changes are not imaginary because you can look at Mike's Twitter if you're in doubt
    I had the game before the day 1 patch and I know it's different. I didn't see this kind of sliding albeit not a ton, speed overall to the pace, and the AI behave certain ways like drive and kick was evident.
    I don't even think the AI kicks it back out after rebounds anymore.
    I put up videos and clips I can reference so I'm definitely not tripping.
    Sky is not falling and this is not 2k19 but there is no placebo here. It's the exact reason people didn't want Mike finagling with the game less than 24 hours after release.
    I hadn't touched a single slider, now I feel like I have to.
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    CPU greens more which isn’t a bad thing because at times they couldn’t score.
    I have seen drive in kick ( Just got done with a game, but you are correct) Not as much as before
    Has Mike said anything on Twitter about speed other than when he changed Park speed, then changed it back "so it should be like offline"?
    BTW, was 2K19 fast for ya'll? Lol. I don't get the "back to 2K19" references, is that just the thing to say? The way everyone was glued to each other on the perimeter made it feel sluggish to me personally. Had to use speed edits to make it feel better.
    I definitely agree on the CPU paint scoring, though that's an issue I've had from the beginning, and something some have mentioned from the jump. Too many conversions while your standing there in hands up...even if you've got the height advantage.
    The 24th Letter
    Has Mike said anything on Twitter about speed other than when he changed Park speed, then changed it back "so it should be like offline"?
    BTW, was 2K19 fast for ya'll? Lol. I don't get the "back to 2K19" references, is that just the thing to say? The way everyone was glued to each other on the perimeter made it feel sluggish to me personally. Had to use speed edits to make it feel better.
    I definitely agree on the CPU paint scoring, though that's an issue I've had from the beginning, and something some have mentioned from the jump. Too many conversions while your standing there in hands up...even if you've got the height advantage.
    I see the CPU using cheese tactics in the paint like quick finger rolls from the stand still.
    Liz Cambage just tried it on me from the elbow, smh. None of that was there. Stuff like that but again it's not game breaking or a "I'm scared guys" kinda thing.
    Anyway, yeah he's been changing speeds since the demo. It has affected all modes not just park. I saw spacial Jones and GSW asking him to tone it down for 3 days and eventually they unfollowed him because he doesn't answer unless it's about badges or builds
    That last time he said it was changed back to almost what it was at release then he said he sped up dribbling which was all right before the patch.
    Paint stuff can be fixed, it has before. Likely a tendency edit or quick change under the hood.
    I'm just not happy to see nerf or buff because the reason for that is what I'm cautious about
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    Patch definitely made me install the entire game over. **** was definitely annoying Hahaa. But yea, 2K I Hope every time we download a patch this year we don’t have to install the entire game over
    Also for those of you who haven’t downloaded the patch, please don’t post stuff like “i hope the patch didn’t do this and I hope this..” ... blah blah. Download the patch. Play the game. See if you like it. Stop reading everyone’s opinion on it if you already have the game lol. Just download it.
    Nathan_OS
    Also for those of you who haven’t downloaded the patch, please don’t post stuff like “i hope the patch didn’t do this and I hope this..” ... blah blah. Download the patch. Play the game. See if you like it. Stop reading everyone’s opinion on it if you already have the game lol. Just download it.

    Plus people need understand the patch is to fix things, most of the gameplay changes we see are done through daily updates.
    When the game first came out I felt like a really good game vs the CPU could be had this year with minimal slider adjustments, but after all the tinkering, I now feel like there is a great playing game still hiding in there, but the slider work will be extensive to pull it out.
    The 24th Letter
    Has Mike said anything on Twitter about speed other than when he changed Park speed, then changed it back "so it should be like offline"?
    BTW, was 2K19 fast for ya'll? Lol. I don't get the "back to 2K19" references, is that just the thing to say? The way everyone was glued to each other on the perimeter made it feel sluggish to me personally. Had to use speed edits to make it feel better.
    I definitely agree on the CPU paint scoring, though that's an issue I've had from the beginning, and something some have mentioned from the jump. Too many conversions while your standing there in hands up...even if you've got the height advantage.
    For me, I'm not saying that NBA 2K19 was a fast game, per se. When they released the demo, they gave us a different perspective on what the speed of the game should or could be. As a result, NBA 2K 19 became the definition of "fast". Truthfully, I had always dropped the game speed to 45 when I play offline.
    So when I played the one game online after the patch, I could clearly see a difference in speed. It felt like I was crossing the half-court line in 2 seconds. I couldn't read and react to the offense, because the ball handler was moving so quickly. It felt like the hole to attack when I pulled off a dribble move were closing so quickly, because the defenders were moving quickly. Also, the shot meter was moving very quickly too, so a majority of my shots were late or very late.
    The game played very different and to quote Kevin Hart "Nooooooo! I wasn't ready!"
    This was not a placebo effect. I was seriously thinking about breaking my controller at the end of that game, because I was that furious with how they changed the game.
    I love the patch.on Hof I could barely make any jumpers now it's at real percentages.The input lag seems way better.and the ball is more tangible now.not as much clipping through the ball.i love it
    Bootzilla

    Also, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the update but the cpu offense is just bad. First six possessions of the game Tray Young dribbled the entire possession forcing his way into the paint for contested layups. I even had Kevin Heuter, Jabari Parker, and Evan Turner dribble entire possessions trying to get into the paint before shooting a contested shot right before a shot clock violation. Dribbling 20 seconds of the shot clock.

    I'm not sure if its because the rotations are so bad, but I've found playing offline thoroughly un-enjoyable because of this.
    I've had the CPU run a play to post up Embiid on a guard and he just passes it off to Ben Simmons at the 3 point line as I bring the double instead of just posterise him.
    Played the Warriors and Steph shot about 3 times while D'Angelo and Draymond were running the offence and I didn't do much to shut him down.
    I've definitely noticed the CPU rotations also lead to double Centre lineups with zero spacing or no shooting at all, and their whole offence will fall apart.
    Of course, they still make enough baskets on fast breaks because they get every damn loose ball lol
    Smirkin Dirk
    I can't feel a speed difference at all offline.

    Gosh I hope you’re right. I don’t play online so that doesn’t matter to me. But I like the speed differences between guards and bigs at launch. It felt real.
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    infemous

    Played the Warriors and Steph shot about 3 times while D'Angelo and Draymond were running the offence and I didn't do much to shut him down.

    The goal for me is to have some variance. If Steph shoots 3 times in every game then we have a problem, if he has a bad game here and there or takes a back seat that only makes the experience more realistic.
    Just the other day I've played the Warriors and Steph completely lit me up, he had scored over 30 and I was playing 6 minute quarters. On the other hand when I've played the Suns I had Devin Booker struggle against the defense of Jonathan Isaac and just miss some shots and he finished 1-10.
    For me, the game is too fast after the patch. It's now more difficult to play on ball defense because the players are sliding. I prefer the game speed pre patched.
    buckeyezombie
    Mark Price can't get passed Ben Simmons now. A 6'10 Ben Simmons is locking down 6'0 NBA All Star Mark Price on the perimeter. Was blowing by bigs last week.
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    Have you tried other examples? 6’10 Ben Simmons isn’t a “big” and regularly defends quick guards in real life.
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    I haven’t played a ton before or after the patch, but in play now (off-line) and scrimmages I can’t tell a huge difference. I still have bigs getting exposed, late to help, etc. I can’t tell if it changed shooting, I was having a hard time hitting shots earlier in just the freestyle mode with 0 defenders lol.
    Overall this game still feels substantially better than 2k19, 100 times better. Maybe there are areas where the speed is up some, but I still feel a large variety among different players. As long as every player on the floor isn’t shifty as hell, massive speed boosts for defenders from behind, and tons of slowing down players with the ball this game will be fine.
    Haven’t tested anything online, my career, or park or anything like that though.
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    I don't like that defenders don't seem to have objective lateral quickness on defense. If a slow Center is on a guard on the perimeter then he moves as you would expect him too, and the guard can get by him relatively easily.
    If that same Center plays up tight on a 3 or 4 who is much faster and quicker than he is, but has low handle ratings, then the 5 has access to lateral quickness animations that are several times faster than he can use against the guard, and thus can cut those players off practically at will.
    I'm sure that there are slider settings that can fix this situation, but it's unfortunate that it isn't tuned correctly by default.
    ojandpizza
    Have you tried other examples? 6’10 Ben Simmons isn’t a “big” and regularly defends quick guards in real life.
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    Lol @ him thinking Mark Price would be able to get passed Ben Simmons IRL...
    jfsolo
    I don't like that defenders don't seem to have objective lateral quickness on defense. If a slow Center is on a guard on the perimeter then he moves as you would expect him too, and the guard can get by him relatively easily.
    If that same Center plays up tight on a 3 or 4 who is much faster and quicker than he is, but has low handle ratings, then the 5 has access to lateral quickness animations that are several times faster than he can use against the guard, and thus can cut those players off practically at will.
    I'm sure that there are slider settings that can fix this situation, but it's unfortunate that it isn't tuned correctly by default.

    What would be an example of this using a specific player match up?
    After a 24 hour update I can't tell much of a difference. Also when I make a sub on a dead ball while it shows the player going to the bench the whistle blows and there is a 5 second delay. That used to never happen!
    The 24th Letter
    What would be an example of this using a specific player match up?

    Hawks vs Grizzlies, you have situations where Valanciunas is switched onto Collins or Hunter and he can close up to their chest on a pump fake from the perimeter, and still cut them off pretty easily on a drive and make them pick up the dribble despite that hard close. His lateral footwork against them is ridiculous.
    jfsolo
    Hawks vs Grizzlies, you have situations where Valanciunas is switched onto Collins or Hunter and he can close up to their chest on a pump fake from the perimeter, and still cut them off pretty easily on a drive and make them pick up the dribble despite that hard close. His lateral footwork against them is ridiculous.
    Hate playing them. Jonas is more like baby Hakeem lol.
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    I'm sorry but this plays nothing like the original gameplay. It's not small differences, it's nothing like it.
    Player speed is all herky-jerky, almost impossible to stay with guards 1-on-1 or around picks because a) it's too fast even with reduced game speed and b) AI seems to have to go to the EXACT spot on the court to execute a play so if a pass is a little off or I force it one side it just goes into this crazy animation running in circles to find the spot to start running pnr, but if I give it a little space it just burst in for a layup.
    They messed with steals. So many loose balls going in the paint.
    Player and ball weight is 99% gone. So many unexpected speed bursts, uncontrollable moves.
    Fluidity of shooters coming off screens is almost gone. Now they seem to have to slide into one specific spot on the court so they bring the ball down first which gives AI easy contests even when they were completely out of position.
    Right stick sensitivity is crazy. I pump fake with the shooting button and if I even 'lick' the RS for a jab step or something it goes for a shot immediately. Never happened before.
    Passing animations are all out of wack. This isn't specific just to this patch but it's been driving me crazy for years. Almost no chest passes, everything is one handed. If I run a side PnR and the ball handler takes both defenders, like this:
    http://youtu.be/uGsp3RV34FM?t=52
    When I try to pass to the open roller the ball handler stops, changes hands and passes the ball directly to the defenders chest. Ofc it's a turnover. Completely unnatural.
    Before people accuse me of being spoiled and arcade or whatever, let me say I've played over 30 full 48 minute games before this patch with different teams, players, fiddling with sliders etc. I'm a sim player, love running plays, slower realistic play and out of the box gameplay was almost perfect other than the double team bug. Even after the second patch it was very, very good. Not it's a completely different game.
    IlCapitano

    Passing animations are all out of wack. This isn't specific just to this patch but it's been driving me crazy for years. Almost no chest passes, everything is one handed. If I run a side PnR and the ball handler takes both defenders, like this:
    http://youtu.be/uGsp3RV34FM?t=52
    When I try to pass to the open roller the ball handler stops, changes hands and passes the ball directly to the defenders chest. Ofc it's a turnover. Completely unnatural.

    I've always had a few issues with passing in 2K, but for stuff like this have you tried changing how you're passing the ball? Meaning attempting a bounce pass or lob pass in those situations specifically rather than a regular chest pass? Personally I've change a lot of my passing styles in traffic to the bounce pass and I've had much better results.. Occasionally I'm throwing it off a defenders leg, which happens in real life as well, but the game as a whole operates much better and I'm not getting all the throw the ball into the defenders chest issues that I was before.
    ojandpizza
    I've always had a few issues with passing in 2K, but for stuff like this have you tried changing how you're passing the ball? Meaning attempting a bounce pass or lob pass in those situations specifically rather than a regular chest pass? Personally I've change a lot of my passing styles in traffic to the bounce pass and I've had much better results.. Occasionally I'm throwing it off a defenders leg, which happens in real life as well, but the game as a whole operates much better and I'm not getting all the throw the ball into the defenders chest issues that I was before.

    I use bounce and lob in middle pnr, but here I was using icon pass and AI decides what it does apparently.
    IlCapitano
    I use bounce and lob in middle pnr, but here I was using icon pass and AI decides what it does apparently.

    Use the bounce or ball fake. It’s annoying those passes have been getting picked off forever, but I had to throw years ago to throw other passes
    jfsolo
    I don't like that defenders don't seem to have objective lateral quickness on defense. If a slow Center is on a guard on the perimeter then he moves as you would expect him too, and the guard can get by him relatively easily.
    If that same Center plays up tight on a 3 or 4 who is much faster and quicker than he is, but has low handle ratings, then the 5 has access to lateral quickness animations that are several times faster than he can use against the guard, and thus can cut those players off practically at will.
    I'm sure that there are slider settings that can fix this situation, but it's unfortunate that it isn't tuned correctly by default.

    I think that could quite easily be fixed by doing a MyLeague rating adjustment on perimeter defence for all centers, but yes you're right, annoying that has to be done.
    loso_34
    They buffed passing lanes and on ball steals. Passing lanes were better prior at least in rec compared to last year.

    I think people are just equipping more defensive badges now tbh - I was missing easy steals until I got interceptor on my player, now I'm getting way more tips and steals, and I'm sure once I have it on silver or gold I'll be nabbing them in the same cheesy way we all did in 2k19 lol
    basically the my player meta is choose your cheese lol
    IlCapitano
    I'm sorry but this plays nothing like the original gameplay. It's not small differences, it's nothing like it.
    Player speed is all herky-jerky, almost impossible to stay with guards 1-on-1 or around picks because a) it's too fast even with reduced game speed and b) AI seems to have to go to the EXACT spot on the court to execute a play so if a pass is a little off or I force it one side it just goes into this crazy animation running in circles to find the spot to start running pnr, but if I give it a little space it just burst in for a layup.
    They messed with steals. So many loose balls going in the paint.
    Player and ball weight is 99% gone. So many unexpected speed bursts, uncontrollable moves.
    Fluidity of shooters coming off screens is almost gone. Now they seem to have to slide into one specific spot on the court so they bring the ball down first which gives AI easy contests even when they were completely out of position.
    Right stick sensitivity is crazy. I pump fake with the shooting button and if I even 'lick' the RS for a jab step or something it goes for a shot immediately. Never happened before.
    Passing animations are all out of wack. This isn't specific just to this patch but it's been driving me crazy for years. Almost no chest passes, everything is one handed. If I run a side PnR and the ball handler takes both defenders, like this:
    http://youtu.be/uGsp3RV34FM?t=52
    When I try to pass to the open roller the ball handler stops, changes hands and passes the ball directly to the defenders chest. Ofc it's a turnover. Completely unnatural.
    Before people accuse me of being spoiled and arcade or whatever, let me say I've played over 30 full 48 minute games before this patch with different teams, players, fiddling with sliders etc. I'm a sim player, love running plays, slower realistic play and out of the box gameplay was almost perfect other than the double team bug. Even after the second patch it was very, very good. Not it's a completely different game.

    ngl these were my impressions playing Play Now and MyLeague when I first got the game, I've not played those modes since as I've managed to enjoy MyCareer and Rec a lot, but I do really hope this isn't just how the game is on CPU and h2h games.
    I'm gonna wait for a few sliders to come out that really slow that down before I delve into those modes and gameplay.
    I just find it peculiar you said you didn't experience any of this out of the box.
    bolded the main issue for me that I have with 2k20 - Mike Wang answered a tweet about it saying its a thing they're still actively working on, which I appreciate, but have never really had complaints about this before in a 2k and thats disappointing.
    IlCapitano
    I use bounce and lob in middle pnr, but here I was using icon pass and AI decides what it does apparently.

    you can hold the icon you want to pass to to lob and double tap to bounce pass. discovering this has made me so happy, hope you get to enjoy that too.
    I’m thinking 2K has become a victim of their own success in a lot of ways, the game is such high quality guys spend a lot of their time nitpicking and looking for issues...... there’s no way this many dudes can see this many different things in 24 hours since the last update/patch........ I’m sorry it’s just redundant to read these threads this year
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    Not about having another issue but now i see Mike has slowed the game back
    I saw a tweet by GSW thanking him for slowing it down earlier on twitter, but thats not my indication, just an indicator
    I had to lower my speed down to around 48 or so because it was honestly just a tad too fast... turn it on tonight and it was now too slow, and i know because my wrists were hurting from having to jam the sticks to make it feel like the guys move to my inputs to a small degree
    Anyway, i finished that game and put game speed back to what it was and it feels fine. Shocker to me the AI grabbed a rebound and kicked it back out, which is definitely something that was NOT happening.
    Anyway im on xbox, maybe we get some stuff later than ps4 guys... like the stuttering ive been reading about never happened to me on xbox.
    Oh and as far as nitpicking, thats what these dudes do here for whatever reason, its why many of us leave the forums ever year
    23
    Not about having another issue but now i see Mike has slowed the game back
    I saw a tweet by GSW thanking him for slowing it down earlier on twitter, but thats not my indication, just an indicator
    I had to lower my speed down to around 48 or so because it was honestly just a tad too fast... turn it on tonight and it was now too slow, and i know because my wrists were hurting from having to jam the sticks to make it feel like the guys move to my inputs to a small degree
    Anyway, i finished that game and put game speed back to what it was and it feels fine. Shocker to me the AI grabbed a rebound and kicked it back out, which is definitely something that was NOT happening.
    Anyway im on xbox, maybe we get some stuff later than ps4 guys... like the stuttering ive been reading about never happened to me on xbox.
    Oh and as far as nitpicking, thats what these dudes do here for whatever reason, its why many of us leave the forums ever year

    I would agree the game definitely felt slower today.
    For offline I am not a veteran like some of you guys but I’ve never liked monkeying with the game speed. I’ve usually adjusted the acceleration slider for both user/cpu. If I want it more explosive I bump it up. Definitely did more of that in ‘19. Just prefer adjusting that to game speed.
    The game has definitely been slowed back down. The gameplay is different every day with these updates, it's hard to properly learn the game with all these constant changes. All-Star feels good right now, though.
    23
    Not about having another issue but now i see Mike has slowed the game back
    I saw a tweet by GSW thanking him for slowing it down earlier on twitter, but thats not my indication, just an indicator
    I had to lower my speed down to around 48 or so because it was honestly just a tad too fast... turn it on tonight and it was now too slow, and i know because my wrists were hurting from having to jam the sticks to make it feel like the guys move to my inputs to a small degree
    Anyway, i finished that game and put game speed back to what it was and it feels fine. Shocker to me the AI grabbed a rebound and kicked it back out, which is definitely something that was NOT happening.
    Anyway im on xbox, maybe we get some stuff later than ps4 guys... like the stuttering ive been reading about never happened to me on xbox.
    Oh and as far as nitpicking, thats what these dudes do here for whatever reason, its why many of us leave the forums ever year

    It’s nice to hear that Dre, i can’t wait to get my hands on again today. I’m hopeful for it. It will be the 4th time since release the speed of the gam changes.
    Just the game so I’m only now downloading the patch. Is this really going to take an entire day??? No biggie but I saw 27 hours left and was blown away!
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    CX1329
    The game has definitely been slowed back down. The gameplay is different every day with these updates, it's hard to properly learn the game with all these constant changes. All-Star feels good right now, though.
    Yeah I need that to stop right about now.
    It's fine where it is. He should leave it alone, geez.
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    ataman5
    It’s nice to hear that Dre, i can’t wait to get my hands on again today. I’m hopeful for it. It will be the 4th time since release the speed of the gam changes.
    Yep yep, and enough is enough. If any Twitter toddlers are crying at this point with no disrespect, bump them.
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    Not to be indifferent but patching these sports games are the problem... The only thing that should be patched is bugs imo.. When a game releases sports games have got to stop taking one step forward with the release and two steps back with every patch to gameplay.. no other genre goes through this issue constantly but the sports genre
    superlion2003
    Not to be indifferent but patching these sports games are the problem... The only thing that should be patched is bugs imo.. When a game releases sports games have got to stop taking one step forward with the release and two steps back with every patch to gameplay.. no other genre goes through this issue constantly but the sports genre

    all games do that now, its just easier to notice those sudden changes when a game is meant to replicate a sport.
    Offline the game plays great on All Star/Superstar, but I slightly liked it better on day one than now after patch 1.03. But it's still great.
    Please don't mess it up with further patches
    jmarcguy
    Just the game so I’m only now downloading the patch. Is this really going to take an entire day??? No biggie but I saw 27 hours left and was blown away!
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    That is pretty good. I have been downloading mine since 8 pm Friday night. On Sunday at 12:10 it only at 58 percent. At this rate will be able to play tomorrow when I get from work about 7 tomorrow night.:(:(
    poulka
    That is pretty good. I have been downloading mine since 8 pm Friday night. On Sunday at 12:10 it only at 58 percent. At this rate will be able to play tomorrow when I get from work about 7 tomorrow night.:(:(

    What speed is your internet? Mine took 45 mins
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    LongRoad19
    Offline the game plays great on All Star/Superstar, but I slightly liked it better on day one than now after patch 1.03. But it's still great.
    Please don't mess it up with further patches
    After having some time to digest things this is where I'm at. The speed feels a tad faster, I lowered game speed down one to 49, but everything else is default all star.
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    Sorry, just having some fun.
    Gameplay speed keeps changing. Like it today better. Lot more
    I am seeing a few drive and Kick-outs by CPU player (Lillard). Postgame still too many awkward plays & Points in the paint. Still the best 2k to date.
    can someone tell me how to turn 2kTV off before games? id rather have Ernie, Shaq, Kenny pre game instead, I looked throughout the settings and haven't been able to find it anywhere
    makaveli204076
    can someone tell me how to turn 2kTV off before games? id rather have Ernie, Shaq, Kenny pre game instead, I looked throughout the settings and haven't been able to find it anywhere

    2KTV plays while the game's loading, so about the only thing you can do is press Start/Options to bring up the lineups while the load finishes. The pregame trio shows up once the pregame presentation actually starts now (though I'm not sure if they show up every single game anymore).
    makaveli204076
    can someone tell me how to turn 2kTV off before games? id rather have Ernie, Shaq, Kenny pre game instead, I looked throughout the settings and haven't been able to find it anywhere

    You can’t from what I see. Same goes for that awful Takeover crap. I feel like I’m playing NBA Jam when I see it. Last year we could turn off both.
    bcruise
    2KTV plays while the game's loading, so about the only thing you can do is press Start/Options to bring up the lineups while the load finishes. The pregame trio shows up once the pregame presentation actually starts now (though I'm not sure if they show up every single game anymore).

    The pre game show doesn't come up for every game but they do show up at half time for all games. Also the city/skyline shots occur before the game starts instead of at halftime also in most cases you won't get a skyline shot. I did like how they took the OKC skyline at dusk in the Play Now as that was only featured in My League.
    Seems like the frame rate drop happens specifically  when the shot clock goes below 5.  Hopefully this suggests a patchable bug (vs over ambitious graphics)
    Rmm80
    Seems like the frame rate drop happens specifically *when the shot clock goes below 5. *Hopefully this suggests a patchable bug (vs over ambitious graphics)

    I turned off HDR on my PS4 and it made a dramatic difference in FPS with minimal overall picture quality, the game was hard to even play with the frame drops I was getting before
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    Has the gameplay been changed yet again? It feels noticeably faster compared to last night. It's not too bad, controls just feel a bit more responsive, which comes at the expense of weight. It's not as bad as it was a few days ago, though. This is a good balance if that's what they're looking for, as long as the fundamentals of the game stay the same.
    CX1329
    Has the gameplay been changed yet again? It feels noticeably faster compared to last night. It's not too bad, controls just feel a bit more responsive, which comes at the expense of weight. It's not as bad as it was a few days ago, though. This is a good balance if that's what they're looking for, as long as the fundamentals of the game stay the same.

    I hope not, please not again.
    I loved the game before Patch 1.03 but now its so fast again there is no actual tactics or driblling skills need as you can easily blow by anyone with sprinting. (CPU offline) - the tactical feel just vanished imo
    Bruh stop touching the damn game speed im sick of it . I played it Sunday morning and night and two different speeds JUST STOP
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    The 24th Letter
    Was there a Sunday update? Has the game speed really changed 4-5 times since Friday? Could it be you're just playing with different teams/players?

    Nope i wish i have 24th, it has changed several times. I always do the same drill bcs of 2k playing with my head here, i always play with the same team vs the same team offline(Pels vs Pacers) and then 1vs1 Tmac(me) vs Melo and then 2k freestyle with Team Giannis selecting Giannis and Kemba.
    This is my drill with every new opening of the game. Each and every hour that i have chance to open up the game i can feel the difference. I really don't like what i go thru here which i shouldn't have to. :)
    All i want is to enjoy the game.
    I'm playing in MyLeague as the Spurs with no trades so far, so it's the same team, same players each time. I can definitely feel those speed changes, and the game really is a bit faster than it was yesterday.
    CX1329
    I'm playing in MyLeague as the Spurs with no trades so far, so it's the same team, same players each time. I can definitely feel those speed changes, and the game really is a bit faster than it was yesterday.

    Yes correct.
    I must say these daily gameplay changes are getting ridiculous. It's been about a week since release day and the game has changed four times. The first time was only three days after release, and since then the changes have been daily. If this keeps up, I'll stop playing 2K (or at least MyLeague, and just do Play Now games in the meantime) until the devs can finally settle on something.
    I use the Spurs too, I always try and use Dejounte as a point of reference. I definitely know patches can result in unintentional gameplay changes. I personally don't think Mike is ticking the speed box up and down hourly, but I'm just not experiencing it on my end. I hope it stabilizes for you guys. That would definitely suck.
    Dione2014
    Game has severe frame drops. I'm on a ps4 pro. Anyone else experiencing this issue?
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    I played for the first time on the Pro last night and definitely noticed this. It barely happened on X-Box.
    Speaking of which, RS dribbling seems a lot more responsive on PS4 for some reason. I dont really have issues with dribble moves but it's a night/day difference.
    CX1329
    I'm playing in MyLeague as the Spurs with no trades so far, so it's the same team, same players each time. I can definitely feel those speed changes, and the game really is a bit faster than it was yesterday.

    Yep earlier in the day they increased dribbling speed then later on game speed lol.
    It feels like every time I boot my PS4 I’m playing a new game.
    CaseIH
    Ive only played 1 full game, but this patch seemed to improve it from the last update they did. Some of the same issues, as in yrs past, exist, if your a offline player. Like a lack of fouls for example, but if you enjoyed the game in the past, I cant imagine you would be disappointed with NBA2k20. IMO anyway, I think 2k20 is much better than 2k19 was, but thats just me, some may feel differently.
    CPU free throw attempts increased for me after the patch, CPU is attempting about 15 per game now, that's alot better than the 4 or 5 I was seeing prepatch.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    If they want to keep the game speed like this (feels like I’m on skates) they may as well nerf the stamina it only encourages holding turbo.
    rudyjuly2
    It’s toned down. I haven’t seen the full court double in a long time and it takes longer for a hot player to be doubled. That said, dumping the ball into the post for a player like Blake will result in a double team at times which is just smart. I have zero issues with double teams right now.
    As a matter of fact I love seeing my bigs get doubled when it's warranted, cpu does a nice job of helping on mismatches in the post too so I like the fact that you have to get the ball on the block and make a quick decision once you see the help coming. Nice job by 2K on that part. The cpu doubling in the post is also helped by smarter defensive rotations. I had bumped the difficulty up to superstar but I still think all star is the sweet spot for right now until I figure out ALL THE LITTLE DETAILS of this game!! Alot of these details only get noticed by the simheads unfortunately but great job 2K!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    CX1329
    I'm seeing Superstar cheese that wasn't there before. Specifically, so much paint cheese, as another poster mentioned. The ability to protect the paint is something that I praised on release, but it seems to have been nerfed. I'm dropping to All-Star.
    James Harden hit me up for 38 and not a single point of it made me feel like "THE GAME IS SCREWING ME" lol...I wish I would've captured footage of the way he danced behind screens before deciding to make his move and go for the kill. **** was BEAUTIFUL lol
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Nevertheles109
    Honest impressions compared to day one gameplay for an offline SIM-head. I play 11-12 minute quarters on HOF.
    The speed SEEMS like it MIGHT be a hair faster. However, are they outta control, on skates, or doing anything odd like some people have eluded to on this thread? No. The fast guys are still faster than the slower guys. The separation between athletic freaks and average players is still there, and prominent.
    Turbo still needs to be utilized when appropriate or you will get tired or lack explosion. I still love how that is implemented and how you can time a burst and feels the players explode. Has a realistic feeling to it this year.
    Shooting has become easier, which I expected -- Much more greens for the CPU and I. I'm not a fan, but if this is what I have to deal with to have gameplay damn near day 1's, I'm okay with it.
    Inside shots drop more often and green much more often as well. Reggie Jackson laid the ball up over Russell Westbrook and Clint Capela. I was usering Capela and it probably would've been swallowed pre-patch as it should have been, but he somehow got the ball over me and went in. I see this being something people complain about in the future.
    Jumpball feels a little more fluid. It still feels slightly delayed but its more like 1 second delay vs. 2 second delay.
    Overall, I am VERY pleased with the patch. Prior to the patch, we had the "update required" on the screen and it felt different and sticky, like 2K19 before the patch dropped. Now it feels closer to day one with shooting enhancements and easier ability to finish over bigs. I'm excited to play the game again.
    I'd recommend all my sim-heads to give it a shot. The good gameplay is still there with minor differences that are tolerable.
    I agree with every word you said and LUCKILY shooting is one of the easiest things for me to fix with sliders once I start my SIM-head myleague around Thanksgiving or Christmas...no hurry for me seeing that I start a secondary myleague after the trade deadline anyway
    ~Koosa10:27~
    WCBasketball
    CPU greens more which isn’t a bad thing because at times they couldn’t score.
    I have seen drive in kick ( Just got done with a game, but you are correct) Not as much as before
    I wish I could turn off the green lights, nothing irks me more and takes me out of my zone more than knowing a shot is going in AS SOON AS IT'S RELEASED! It takes away from having to box out and fight for rebounds when you already know it's butter when they release it.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    I wish I could turn off the green lights, nothing irks me more and takes me out of my zone more than knowing a shot is going in AS SOON AS IT'S RELEASED! It takes away from having to box out and fight for rebounds when you already know it's butter when they release it.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Another design as a result of onliners
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    infemous
    I think that could quite easily be fixed by doing a MyLeague rating adjustment on perimeter defence for all centers, but yes you're right, annoying that has to be done.
    I think people are just equipping more defensive badges now tbh - I was missing easy steals until I got interceptor on my player, now I'm getting way more tips and steals, and I'm sure once I have it on silver or gold I'll be nabbing them in the same cheesy way we all did in 2k19 lol
    basically the my player meta is choose your cheese lol
    ngl these were my impressions playing Play Now and MyLeague when I first got the game, I've not played those modes since as I've managed to enjoy MyCareer and Rec a lot, but I do really hope this isn't just how the game is on CPU and h2h games.
    I'm gonna wait for a few sliders to come out that really slow that down before I delve into those modes and gameplay.
    I just find it peculiar you said you didn't experience any of this out of the box.
    bolded the main issue for me that I have with 2k20 - Mike Wang answered a tweet about it saying its a thing they're still actively working on, which I appreciate, but have never really had complaints about this before in a 2k and thats disappointing.
    you can hold the icon you want to pass to to lob and double tap to bounce pass. discovering this has made me so happy, hope you get to enjoy that too.
    WHOA!!!! That might be a game changer! I never knew this!
    ~Koosa10:27~
    AstrosAllDay85
    What speed is your internet? Mine took 45 mins
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    I started mine, put my ps4 in rest mode and about 30 or 40 minutes I was on the hardwood...thank God for Charter Spectrum internet, I pay enough every month for that luxury though lol.
    ~Koosa10:27~
    23
    Another design as a result of onliners
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    Wish they would've considered giving us an on or off button for that one lol
    ~Koosa10:27~
    Koosa1027
    Wish they would've considered giving us an on or off button for that one lol
    ~Koosa10:27~
    ............
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    In my career now it feels like my player is literally sliding across the court at times I guess due to the increase in speed(I'm not even pressing turbo)? Its causing certain animations to speed up and not play out right to me especially with the A.I. I'm not a fan so far....ugh
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