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NBA 2K19 Screenshot - Kawhi Leonard (Overall Rating - 94) - Overrated, Underrated or Just Right?

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NBA 2K19 Screenshot - Kawhi Leonard (Overall Rating - 94) - Overrated, Underrated or Just Right?

2K released a new NBA 2K19 screenshot. This one featuring Kawhi Leonard, in his new Toronto Raptors uniform, with an overall 94 rating. Let us know what you think.

Below are some of the other NBA 2K19 screenshots and player ratings that were recently released.

LeBron is the NBA 2K19 20th Anniversary Edition cover athlete releasing on September 7, while Giannis Antetokounmpo is cover athlete for the NBA 2K19 Standard Edition, releasing on September 11.

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  1. The little faith I had is gone after this screen. Same exact body models with improved muscle tone and sweat. Tiny waist, short legs, no backside. Horrible.
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    I talked about this over at the NLSC but I might as well post this here.
    I don't know if any of you have noticed this with all these released screenshots, but they're all the exact same. Over exaggerated sweat, under head shot hiding aspects of the stadiums and court textures. It's not even a coincidence anymore.
    Either they're trying to hide a big reveal that they've fixed every court in the game or that the game looks the exact same as 2K18. Same body types and everything from the looks of it. Personally I thought graphically 2K18 looked fine apart from the dark crowds, lack of body types, inaccurate textures (this is just the 2K norm at this point), but who knows maybe people won't be happy.
    Hopefully the fact that they've made barely made any changes graphically means that they've spent a bulk of the development time into the gameplay side of the game.
    EDIT:
    Just realised there are actual different departments working on the game so it wouldn't really work like that. In that case the art development time should be put into the retro content or cyberfaces.
    Really nothing has changed in a year, what has the 2k graphics department worked on this year? There was a boatload of graphical problems with body types that should’ve been fixed this year, how does an NBA player with the minuscule that Leonard has end up with no muscle definition and with legs and a wait smaller than their upper body?. The community should’ve pointed this out early and drilled it into 2ks head because now it’s really hurts to look at. No matter how good people think graphics look, there’s always something to fix
    PeacemanNOT
    I talked about this over at the NLSC but I might as well post this here.
    I don't know if any of you have noticed this with all these released screenshots, but they're all the exact same. Over exaggerated sweat, under head shot hiding aspects of the stadiums and court textures. It's not even a coincidence anymore.
    Either they're trying to hide a big reveal that they've fixed every court in the game or that the game looks the exact same as 2K18. Same body types and everything from the looks of it. Personally I thought graphically 2K18 looked fine apart from the dark crowds, lack of body types, inaccurate textures (this is just the 2K norm at this point), but who knows maybe people won't be happy.
    Hopefully the fact that they've made barely made any changes graphically means that they've spent a bulk of the development time into the gameplay side of the game.

    Doesn’t work like that, they have departments or sections of the game (gameplay, graphics, menu layout/design, they even have someone who focuses on ratings) dedicated to a portion of people. Mike Wang, who focuses on gameplay, does not work on the graphics. So there’s that
    Does this whole board get amnesia every couple years??? This whole board said players were wearing fubu shorts and went crazy because how big they were now y'all want them back? ,
    jaityla
    Doesn’t work like that, they have departments or sections of the game (gameplay, graphics, menu layout/design, they even have someone who focuses on ratings) dedicated to a portion of people. Mike Wang, who focuses on gameplay, does not work on the graphics. So there’s that

    Yeah you right, in that case it should be put it into other art aspects of the game such as retro teams or cyberfaces.
    melo627
    Does this whole board get amnesia every couple years??? This whole board said players were wearing fubu shorts and went crazy because how big they were now y'all want them back? ,

    It’s the waists of the player models. They are super small and visually it ruins the aspect of life likeness
    melo627
    Does this whole board get amnesia every couple years??? This whole board said players were wearing fubu shorts and went crazy because how big they were now y'all want them back? ,

    Nah. We want player models fixed. They made shorter, skinny fit shorts and shortened the legs A LOT. It looks so much worse than 2k14 and last gen too. I’ll never get over how dumb they now look.
    coolcras7
    You do realize that everyone does not have proportional bodies

    Yea. But not one body in 2k is accurate. If you get the avg height and weight of an nba player, and create a body it would look nothing like 2k’s. Basketball players have long limbs. How are their legs so short in 2k. Do you think they are accurate ?
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    sva91
    Nah. We want player models fixed. They made shorter, skinny fit shorts and shortened the legs A LOT. It looks so much worse than 2k14 and last gen too. I’ll never get over how dumb they now look.

    It looks like y'all got what you asked for smaller shorts and waist.have y'all ever thought about maybe if y'all didn't complain so much they wouldn't make "hot fixes" that fix one thing and break another? This board is toxic
    melo627
    It looks like y'all got what you asked for smaller shorts and waist.have y'all ever thought about maybe if y'all didn't complain so much they wouldn't make "hot fixes" that fix one thing and break another? This board is toxic

    No. They’re professionals. The game makes a lot of money. We didn’t ask them to take one step forward, 2 steps back. Had they just tweaked shorts and player models from 14 we wouldn’t be complaining this much.
    Look at how much better these player models looked. Not the graphics/textures/jersey fit, just their proportions. They actually look like long lean pro basketball players.
    Hustle Westbrook
    You guys used to complain about the 2K14 body types being too big and bulky though lol.

    Exactly they said they looked like body builders I remember cause I thought it was stupid back then
    Shouders and arms definition are completely gone in 2K version.
    That is a classic dancer version of KL, not baskeball player
    My expectation are going lower and lower after the last screenshoots posted by them (DM an KL).
    I was hoping for a new more accurated representation of body type but seems that nothing is changed from 18 version.
    Only Yannis an De Rozean seems to be improved
    melo627
    You guys can always go play the other bball game with "defined" muscles if you want 🤔🤔

    That’s light years away from the point.
    It’s just odd when you look at DeMar who looks much improved but Kawhi and Donovan don’t seem to have the same definition.
    We want THIS game to be better and when it’s something that you can instantly see like body type you have to wonder what exactly 2k is missing
    Looks so weird seeing Kawhi in a Raptors jersey... Ok. It's pretty obvious that the models won't be changing much this year. The hips are too small and the arenas are dark. It does look off compared to real like. Point taken. You don't have to rehash the same gripes with every screenshot now.
    2K14 has better waist areas. Other than that nothing on that game’s player models are better. 2K19 is most likely gonna be a minor upgrade graphically which is fine for me. I’d like them to address some of the graphical complaints of the community but most likely they won’t this gen.
    With ld2k not working for them anymore I doubt any "devs" check this board anymore.The little waist thing doesn't bother me I never noticed it during gameplay but the super dark arenas is noticable..I think having this way let's them have really great looking player models,I think that's a engine thing not a artist choice.
    Junior Moe
    Looks so weird seeing Kawhi in a Raptors jersey... Ok. It's pretty obvious that the models won't be changing much this year. The hips are too small and the arenas are dark. It does look off compared to real like. Point taken. You don't have to rehash the same gripes with every screenshot now.

    I mean 2k posts pictures of players with their ratings, people are going to comment ratings and how players look, I mean it's in the title, people are going to talk about the topic not the park or myteam.
    Disappointed to see little to no upgrade to lighting and body types. I wonder if there is a possibility that they have implemented changes to all players yet because Giannis looked like a noticeable improvement to 2k18. Hope to at least see improvements to courts but not going to hold my breath.
    I've always been a gameplay first kind of guy though so I can look past visual short comings if I am having fun and enjoying the game. And I don't mean consciously making a decision to ignore issues with the visuals. If the gameplay is great I'll be too into the game to think waists look to skinny or shoulders aren't defined enough. Hell if I didn't come to OS I wouldn't even notice some of the things you guys point out. I'm either not that observant or don't look hard enough.
    This time of the year is always a good reminder to me of how far we've come in videogames. I remember being blown away in the early 2000s when player faces started looking accurate. I think it was 2k3 that impressed me because Kobe looked like Kobe and Paul Pierce looked like Paul Pierce. Here we are 15 years later talking about waist sizes, shoulders, skin tones, muscle definition etc.
    Many of you are right, 2k can and should do better, but sitting back and thinking about it all it's just like..this is where we are right now with a virtual simulation. It's no longer about just resembling real life, we are at a point where we want to replicate it to as close to 100% accuracy as possible.
    I'm basically over the look of the game I am just hoping that when in motion the game doesn't look and feel the same as 2k18 because I played 2k18 the least of any 2k game ever.
    apparently "official" drummond coming today/tomorrow based off ronnies tweets.
    some kind of huge 2k event where players will be given their ratings/screens but not sure if they can release them.
    turty11
    apparently "official" drummond, tatum, mitchell coming today/tomorrow based off ronnies tweets.
    some kind of huge 2k event where players will be given their ratings/screens but not sure if they can release them.

    So the Tatum and Mitchell pics that released earlier this week aren't official? Or am I reading this the wrong way?
    cthurt
    So the Tatum and Mitchell pics that released earlier this week aren't official? Or am I reading this the wrong way?

    they are official and on the 2k twitter.
    turty11
    apparently "official" drummond coming today/tomorrow based off ronnies tweets.
    some kind of huge 2k event where players will be given their ratings/screens but not sure if they can release them.
    What event?
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    The espys happened yesterday

    ya the "thing/event" is today. no idea what it actually is other than players getting their 2k info for going.
    turty11
    ya the "thing/event" is today. no idea what it actually is other than players getting their 2k info for going.
    People will get to play the game
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    cthurt
    I'm basically over the look of the game I am just hoping that when in motion the game doesn't look and feel the same as 2k18 because I played 2k18 the least of any 2k game ever.
    Wow...I still enjoy 2k18...2k17 was horrible though in my opinion.
    ~Koosa1027~
    Kawhi Leonard
    96 Overall (+1)

    Position: SF
    Archetype: Two-Way Superstar (from All-Around Superstar)
    OFFENSE
    89 Standing Layup (-3)
    90 Driving Layup (-1)
    90 Post Fade (+2)
    70 Post Hook (+20)
    80 Post Control (-5)
    80 Draw Foul (-8)
    98 Shot Close (+5)
    99 Open Shot Mid (+11)
    99 Contested Mid (+11)
    99 Off-Dribble Mid (+11)
    86 Open Shot 3pt (+4)
    84 Contested 3pt (+2)
    84 Off-Dribble 3pt (+5)
    88 Free Throw (+2)
    85 Ball Control (+3)
    64 Pass Vision (-2)
    80 Pass IQ (+2)
    80 Pass Accuracy (+1)
    44 Offensive Rebound (+3)
    55 Standing Dunk
    80 Driving Dunk (-6)
    45 Contact Dunk
    99 Shot IQ (+3)
    99 Hands (+1)
    DEFENSE
    65 Defensive Rebound (-7)
    53 Block (-22)
    80 Shot Contest (-16)
    83 Steal (-12)
    75 On-Ball Defense (-23)
    75 Low Post Defense (+13)
    90 Reaction Time (+2)
    ATHLETICISM
    65 Boxout (-17)
    99 Lateral Quickness (+1)
    85 Speed (-2)
    85 Ball Speed (+1)
    80 Acceleration (-2)
    80 Vertical (+1)
    75 Strength
    95 Stamina (+1)
    99 Hustle (+1)
    80 Durability (+1)
    INTANGIBLES
    95 Pass Perception (-2)
    80 Defensive Consistency (-18)
    85 Pick & Roll Defense (-12)
    75 Help Defense (-22)
    95 Offensive Consistency (-3)
    99 Intangibles (+29)
    99 Potential (+3)
    GRADES
    Inside Scoring: A- (from A)
    Mid-Range Scoring: A+ (from A)
    3PT Scoring: A (from B+)
    Playmaking: B+
    Perimeter Defense: A (from A+)
    Post Defense: C+
    Rebounding: C+
    Athleticism: A
    Basketball IQ: A (from A+)
    STRENGTHS
    The best two way player in the game... arguably a top 5 All-Time Small Forward
    WEAKNESSES
    Not as heavily relied on defensively as advertised.... too small for Power Forward.
    How y’all gon rate him a 94 when he sat out most of his year and traded! Ok I totally dislike LeBron but y’all doing him dirty man he took over his whole team last year and he a 98 overall and kawahi sat out more than half of his year and he a 94?? ARE YALL CRAZY! 
    cfiles76
    How y’all gon rate him a 94 when he sat out most of his year and traded! Ok I totally dislike LeBron but y’all doing him dirty man he took over his whole team last year and he a 98 overall and kawahi sat out more than half of his year and he a 94?? ARE YALL CRAZY!*

    Ratings are dictated by ON-COURT performance.
    Missing games consequently does not affect on-court performance.
    That isn't crazy. It's logic.
    sva91
    Nah. We want player models fixed. They made shorter, skinny fit shorts and shortened the legs A LOT. It looks so much worse than 2k14 and last gen too. I’ll never get over how dumb they now look.

    They do look very dumb. I don't know how 2k approves it.
    Smallville102001
    Surprised that he got this high of a score with having played only like 6 games this year.

    Exactly what I thought.
    He should be an 87 or something like that.
    After such a break and an injury like he had, he may not return just as good as he used to be.
    alecast
    Exactly what I thought.
    He should be an 87 or something like that.
    After such a break and an injury like he had, he may not return just as good as he used to be.

    LOL, what injury was that? Reconstructive knee surgery?
    I wonder if he was on the spurs still or went to the lakers if his overall would be in question.....or is it because he’s on Toronto now.........never mind......lol
    Mintsa
    I wonder if he was on the spurs still or went to the lakers if his overall would be in question.....or is it because he’s on Toronto now.........never mind......lol

    If he was on the Lakers people would want him to be like a 75.
    Rockie_Fresh88
    lol an 87 ? I got to know what attributes would you lower to make him an 87?

    It is not up to me to think what attibutes should be lowered. It is up to 2K.
    The fact is that 2k is rating Leonard as if he was still an active superstar player which is not the case at all.
    I highly doubt he will come back just as good as he was in his prime.
    It will probably take time for him to get back to his former self, if it happens, and this situation should definitely be taken into account when rating him in a game.
    He should be an 87 or an 88, not more than that in no way.
    Rashidi
    LOL, what injury was that? Reconstructive knee surgery?

    I am also very curious to know what type of injury was that because he spent last season in rehabilitation and he barely played. It is certainly not serious, right?
    alecast

    The fact is that 2k is rating Leonard as if he was still an active superstar player which is not the case at all.

    You're in the minority on this one.
    Rashidi
    You're in the minority on this one.

    And that doesn't mean I am wrong. Being in the majority many times does not mean anything.
    Take the # 1 draft pick last year, Mr. Fultz. The guy is up to this point simply a bust and the majority was saying he should be a top draft pick.
    Rating Leonard as a 94 does not stand for itself.
    alecast
    And that doesn't mean I am wrong. Being in the majority many times does not mean anything.
    Rating Leonard as a 94 does not stand for itself.

    This isn't a nuanced argument worth disseminating, but sure I'll bite.
    Kawhi Leonard
    2016: 26.0 PER, 62 TS% on 26 USG%, 18 DRB%, 13 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 2.3 BLK%
    2017: 27.6 PER, 61 TS% on 31 USG%, 16 DRB%, 19 AST%, 2.7 STL%, 1.8 BLK%
    2018: 26.0 PER, 57 TS% on 31 USG%, 19 DRB%, 18 AST%, 4.3 STL%, 3.6 BLK%
    2018 Dumbed down: 16-5-3-2-1 in only 23 MPG and wasn't 100%
    Kawhi wasn't healthy and still played at his usual (top 5 player in the NBA) level.
    You are acting like he tore his Achilles or broke his leg (or that he didn't hold himself out after being medically cleared).
    He's 26 years old and the vast majority of his production comes from his skill and IQ rather than his athleticism.
    Paul George snapped his leg in half and is still largely the same player he was before the injury. Not that you should let precedent stand in the way of your tunnel vision.
    Take the # 1 draft pick last year, Mr. Fultz. The guy is up to this point simply a bust and the majority was saying he should be a top draft pick.

    Discussing the merits of Markelle Fultz as a #1 pick in a weak class is a wee bit different from being in the literal 0.01% of people that think the Raptors downgraded swapping DeRozan for Kawhi.
    Rashidi
    This isn't a nuanced argument worth disseminating, but sure I'll bite.
    Kawhi Leonard
    2016: 26.0 PER, 62 TS% on 26 USG%, 18 DRB%, 13 AST%, 2.8 STL%, 2.3 BLK%
    2017: 27.6 PER, 61 TS% on 31 USG%, 16 DRB%, 19 AST%, 2.7 STL%, 1.8 BLK%
    2018: 26.0 PER, 57 TS% on 31 USG%, 19 DRB%, 18 AST%, 4.3 STL%, 3.6 BLK%
    2018 Dumbed down: 16-5-3-2-1 in only 23 MPG and wasn't 100%
    Kawhi wasn't healthy and still played at his usual (top 5 player in the NBA) level.
    You are acting like he tore his Achilles or broke his leg (or that he didn't hold himself out after being medically cleared).
    He's 26 years old and the vast majority of his production comes from his skill and IQ rather than his athleticism.
    Paul George snapped his leg in half and is still largely the same player he was before the injury. Not that you should let precedent stand in the way of your tunnel vision.
    Discussing the merits of Markelle Fultz as a #1 pick in a weak class is a wee bit different from being in the literal 0.01% of people that think the Raptors downgraded swapping DeRozan for Kawhi.

    Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it.
    Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well.
    If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.
    alecast
    Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it.
    Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well.
    If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.

    That works the opposite way as well, you know?
    Kawhi has proven he's a top player in this league. If he comes out rusty or ends up not looking like his old self, then they can certainly decrease his ratings.
    alecast
    Great stats sheets, but I don't buy it.
    Still waiting for the season to begin and see if Leonard plays well.
    If he plays well, I am fine with him being a 94, a 95 or a 96 overall. Until then he should be an 88.

    Why would they make him worse than he was if he hasn't played any worse? That makes no sense. By that logic, they should lower everyone's ratings across the board since a lot of them haven't played all summer, and most haven't played since the regular season ended.
    If he plays poorly, then they can lower his rating. But until that happens, we should operate under the assumption that he will be the same on the court as he was before, as there is no evidence to the contrary.
    alecast
    It is not up to me to think what attibutes should be lowered. It is up to 2K.
    The fact is that 2k is rating Leonard as if he was still an active superstar player which is not the case at all.
    I highly doubt he will come back just as good as he was in his prime.
    It will probably take time for him to get back to his former self, if it happens, and this situation should definitely be taken into account when rating him in a game.
    He should be an 87 or an 88, not more than that in no way.

    I’m asking why .
    You can’t just say abracadabra make him an 87 .
    You gotta list specific attributes and stats to back up your claim.
    Crazy thing is, 2K gives us the power to go in and make Kawhi or whoever whatever rating we want. If we feel something should be lower we don’t have to edit the whole roster. Just go to Kawhi and change his attributes. He comes back not the same then 2K will drop a roster update showing that. Till then you have all the power to make him what you believe he is.
    SteveQ
    Crazy thing is, 2K gives us the power to go in and make Kawhi or whoever whatever rating we want. If we feel something should be lower we don’t have to edit the whole roster. Just go to Kawhi and change his attributes. He comes back not the same then 2K will drop a roster update showing that. Till then you have all the power to make him what you believe he is.

    It’s been mentioned a few times that play now online players do not have this power .
    Rockie_Fresh88
    It’s been mentioned a few times that play now online players do not have this power .

    Ahh ok. Well for the online players I’d assume that if he doesn’t play up to his old standard, an update will come out and his rating will be reduced. So either way it’s not a huge issue (for the people complaining).
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