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MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

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MLB The Show 20 Trailer - Gameplay Engine & AI Updates

Sony San Diego Studios has released a new MLB The Show 20 trailer, going over some of the updates to the gameplay engine and artificial intelligence.

Just in case you missed it, we broke down the trailer here. Let us know if we missed anything.

We’ve also added some feedback from the community below. Don’t be shy, let us know in the comments what you think of the latest trailer. Don’t forget, MLB The Show 20 Defensive Fundamentals and Practice Makes “Perfect-Perfect” Livestreams are coming on February 6.

  • That first to home back to first double play was pretty sweet! –countryboy
  • Really excited for the improvements to outfield defense. Super hoping that the differences in defense between diamond, gold, bronze, and common fielders are more evident then ever. –dbekoscke
  • Wondering how the control will be with the stutter steps and happy feet outfielders. Not a huge fan of more graphics on the screen during game play in that fielding icon. But will see how it all works out. –bigwill33
  • There is also a new perfect line indicator on the meter which I really like. The home plate throw indicate seems gimmicky, the mechanic throwing to basically any base urgently should be similar. –Padgoi
  • I don’t wanna hear 700+ new animations because every year i see the same 10-20 animations. –nickyb6
  • just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive…” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.-TheBleedingRed21
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  1. Really excited for the improvements to outfield defense. Super hoping that the differences in defense between diamond, gold, bronze, and common fielders are more evident then ever.
    The extended gameplay reveal trailer video said something along the lines of "no more hiding that poor fielding power hitter in left field anymore"!
    This will be great news, and really make you think when building a squad for online play!
    countryboy
    That first to home back to first double play was pretty sweet!

    @countryboy Yeah, I'm trying to remember exactly what happens in the current game on that same play. It looked MUCH more urgent of a throw from first base, but I'm also wondering if the other side of that play was to show the first baseman hustling over to cover first base for the return throw from the catcher. Was this an instance of the pitcher would end up rushing over to first to cover instead of the first baseman (in the current game)?
    dbekoscke
    @countryboy Yeah, I'm trying to remember exactly what happens in the current game on that same play. It looked MUCH more urgent of a throw from first base, but I'm also wondering if the other side of that play was to show the first baseman hustling over to cover first base for the return throw from the catcher. Was this an instance of the pitcher would end up rushing over to first to cover instead of the first baseman (in the current game)?

    I believe its possible in '19, but honestly I haven't attempted this type of double play in quite a while.
    But I believe this was to show the new defensive mechanics/animations for first basemen and I do agree that seeing it in the trailer, it looked to have more urgency than what we have currently.
    Really looking forward to the livestream on Thursday.
    Still only one uniform template, saw buttons on the Cubs blue throwbacks.
    Didn’t see any new tag animations. Same tired home plate slides and tags.
    Can’t tell what’s different about the throw meter. Looks the same. Have to take their word and see what they say on Thursday about it.
    Wondering how the control will be with the stutter steps and happy feet outfielders. Not a huge fan of more graphics on the screen during game play in that fielding icon. But will see how it all works out.
    No new cameras. I hate how far back and high the cameras are after the ball has been put into play. I miss the low camera angle for fielding and post contact.
    Hoping they’ve done something with pickoffs and leads from bases. That part of the game is ugly and old.
    bigwill33
    Still only one uniform template, saw buttons on the Cubs blue throwbacks.
    Didn’t see any new tag animations. Same tired home plate slides and tags.
    Can’t tell what’s different about the throw meter. Looks the same. Have to take their word and see what they say on Thursday about it.

    Wondering how the control will be with the stutter steps and happy feet outfielders. Not a huge fan of more graphics on the screen during game play in that fielding icon. But will see how it all works out.
    No new cameras. I hate how far back and high the cameras are after the ball has been put into play. I miss the low camera angle for fielding and post contact.
    Hoping they’ve done something with pickoffs and leads from bases. That part of the game is ugly and old.

    Button accuracy throw meter green zone is a bit smaller across the board. It's also harder to hit green every time bc the speed of the moving meter has been increased (both of these are dependent on the quality of the fielder).
    ‘‘I am not Robot Coach’’ lol
    Ramone might have competition there from Robot Coach as community manager, especially if Robot plays as mean a second-base as Ramone :lol:
    dbekoscke
    Button accuracy throw meter green zone is a bit smaller across the board. It's also harder to hit green every time bc the speed of the moving meter has been increased (both of these are dependent on the quality of the fielder).
    There is also a new perfect line indicator on the meter which I really like. The home plate throw indicate seems gimmicky, the mechanic throwing to basically any base urgently should be similar.
    And please, what's up with this stupid robot in the videos? They thought this would be entertaining? Is SDS brass really this out of touch? We want to see gameplay. This robot is literally nothing more than filler.
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    Every year at this time I say it - Ramone Russell and the Show do the best job of any sports game when it comes to promoting their product.
    nickyb6
    I don’t wanna hear 700+ new animations because every year i see the same 10-20 animations.
    you're baseballing it wrong ;)
    jfen31
    Gotta keep chasing those mythical "casuals."

    the real problem is they're not mythical
    jfen31
    Gotta keep chasing those mythical "casuals."

    The comedy in the trailer really wasn’t for me but if it can help attract a younger audience (even just on a micro scale) then I’m fine having robots and puppets in the promotion process.
    TheBleedingRed21
    So did they just confirm perfect perfect does result in automatic hits...?
    It was stated that getting perfect perfect would mean you are rewarded.

    SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.
    I don't understand why this automatic hits narrative keeps being brought up.
    I have no 'insider' information, but if I'm wrong about this, I will say that I was wrong after the stream on Thursday. I just know that automatic hits would make absolutely no sense in a sim game of a sport in which an all-star hitter fails roughly 70% of the time.
    This is baseball boys. Sometimes you hit that screaming line drive directly at the center fielder.
    dbekoscke
    SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.

    Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.
    How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.
    Edit::
    Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.
    TheBleedingRed21
    Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.
    How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.
    Edit::
    Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.

    Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.
    Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.
    I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!
    Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
    dbekoscke
    SDS has not said that getting perfect-perfect tier would result in automatic hits in any way.
    I don't understand why this automatic hits narrative keeps being brought up.
    I have no 'insider' information, but if I'm wrong about this, I will say that I was wrong after the stream on Thursday. I just know that automatic hits would make absolutely no sense in a sim game of a sport in which an all-star hitter fails roughly 70% of the time.
    This is baseball boys. Sometimes you hit that screaming line drive directly at the center fielder.

    TheBleedingRed21
    Either you watched a different video or had the volume off. It very much sounded as so. I surely hope that’s not the case, or if it is, directional hitting does not include perfect perfect.
    How else would one take what Ramone said when talking about the feature? Get perfect timing and placement and you are rewarded and then proceed to show nothing but base hits for the feature.
    Edit::
    Since you edited yours, just want to add some of you act like we know nothing about baseball with the “this is baseball boys, sometimes a line drive...” stuff. Lol. This is also a video game that they can code to grant automatic hits. I TRULY hope you are right, but I don’t believe you are. We may not want automatic hits, but casuals sure believe in stick skill success.

    and this is exactly why Sony's got a tricky fine line to try to balance itself on. but if any baseball game can pull off this type gameplay, it's this one.
    dbekoscke
    Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.
    Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.
    I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!
    Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)

    I agree, we all are pretty like minded around here (sim) and want the best baseball game possible. But we all know this is a video game and that is why I’m afraid that is the case. They can easily force hits (I’m sure they can do this in debug already). But either way, let’s wait for Thursday!!
    I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
    this is why you have to have a backup PS at work, if at all possible. and then you just start ''working'' late ;)
    dbekoscke
    Automatic hits make no sense. Because even hitting on perfect-perfect, the ball could still be smashed into a fielders glove. The only way I could see perfect-perfect ended up in 100% auto hits is if these hits are home runs 100% of the time.
    Ball physics will still play a role. Or what about when you're facing a 99 rated pitcher with 120ish H and HR. Those ratings from the pitcher should still have SOME effect even if you hit perfect-perfect.
    I'm really not trying to start anything here, truly. At the end of the day, we all care about this video game and I think our passion is very evident on this forum!
    Thank you to everyone posting here for your enthusiasm and excitement for the Twitch streams and, of course, the release of MLBTS20! I know that I'm super excited!!! (Can't say the same for my wife, as she says I play too much)
    You're the third person I've seen mention ball physics. Ball physics are coded into the game. They are not real physics. It's code. Anything can be coded into the game. Physics cannot. It is quasi-physics, aka the best representation of physics they can get via code.
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    Padgoi
    You're the third person I've seen mention ball physics. Ball physics are coded into the game. They are not real physics. It's code. Anything can be coded into the game. Physics cannot. It is quasi-physics, aka the best representation of physics they can get via code.
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    we probably just use that terminology because that's how the Studio brands it. when in Rome...
    Caulfield
    we probably just use that terminology because that's how the Studio brands it. when in Rome...
    When in Rome...
    Use proper terminology.
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    Nope. Not buying the hype again. I'll watch players streams a month after release and decide from there. Stayed away from 18, got suckered back with 19 and regretted it almost immediately.
    Interesting to see how this new engine will affect “Player Lock” controlled infielders! Have not been able to make tags at second base in years! Just to sit back and watch the automatic animation go into play and the runner be called safe when there was plenty of time to make a tag.
    New animations huh? I'll believe it when I see it, because I see the same old ones all the time as it is. I am not a fan of perfect-perfect or all the defense gimmicks, which thankfully with auto fielding won't have to show on screen. My excitement is slowly fading, to be honest.
    bravesfan1984
    New animations huh? I'll believe it when I see it, because I see the same old ones all the time as it is. I am not a fan of perfect-perfect or all the defense gimmicks, which thankfully with auto fielding won't have to show on screen. My excitement is slowly fading, to be honest.

    Agreed Vets of the MLB series will be looking for those new base running animations mentioned! Especially since all of the home plate slides in the trailer looked identical from all of the years prior.
    I'm still skeptical because I don't understand how the most widely animation in baseball has been overlooked! The common high five when scoring a run or crossing the plate. I guess it's not important LOL I don't know!
    jada855
    Agreed Vets of the MLB series will be looking for those new base running animations mentioned! Especially since all of the home plate slides in the trailer looked identical from all of the years prior.
    I'm still skeptical because I don't understand how the most widely animation in baseball has been overlooked! The common high five when scoring a run or crossing the plate. I guess it's not important LOL I don't know!

    I absolutely can't stand the home plate slide animations!
    Hate to be that guy, but unless it’s an old build, Kauffman looks identical to last year. Can’t help but be frustrated when I post and repost evidence of the same errors and omissions every year and they don’t change. Maybe there’s a chance it’s an old build still. Here’s hoping.
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    nemesis04
    Well, perfect - perfect is not about barreling, the masses have won. :(

    Well clearly it's not mimicking barrels exactly now as no groundball can ever be considered one, so I'll have to walk that speculation back a bit. But it doesn't mean that the system isn't modeled after the kind of results that barrel-type contact produces.
    Also....I would be VERY surprised if every "perfect grounder" is an automatic hit. I would think that they'd have the lowest base hit chance out of the perfect-perfect trio. Perfect Flyballs probably have the best chance of the 3 because they're likely HR's unless hit to dead CF with a low-power hitter - these will probably be actual "barrels" and many of those leave the yard.
    Hopefully we'll get a full explanation Thursday.
    This thread kinda blew up while I was at work, so I apologize if anything I've said has been confirmed/denied already.
    bigwill33
    No new cameras. I hate how far back and high the cameras are after the ball has been put into play. I miss the low camera angle for fielding and post contact.

    Same here! Please bring that camera back.
    bigwill33

    Hoping they’ve done something with pickoffs and leads from bases. That part of the game is ugly and old.

    I’ve been asking for years for a better (or any) pickoff system. Why not throw in a little pickoff meter for the pitcher AND the runner? A little bit like the catcher meter when on button accuracy and you want to throw out a runner. A well executed pickoff could change the whole game in crucial situation.
    beau21
    Hate to be that guy, but unless it’s an old build, Kauffman looks identical to last year. Can’t help but be frustrated when I post and repost evidence of the same errors and omissions every year and they don’t change. Maybe there’s a chance it’s an old build still. Here’s hoping.
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    I feel you. Citizens Bank Park is constantly ignored every year because even as Ramone himself stated in a stream 2 years ago...."no one cares about the Phillies."
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    nickyb6
    I don’t wanna hear 700+ new animations because every year i see the same 10-20 animations.

    This. Looked pretty much like MLB 19. I do like the hitting improvements however.
    I think i'm going to hold on a day one purchase and stick with MLB 19.
    I might be in the minority, but with all the new, slick animations for getting rid of the ball even quicker, I really hope they drastically limit these depending on the fielders ability as pretty much every infielder is already far too slick as it is. Pretty much every first baseman is already making unbelievable snags, perfect spin throws to second and turning double plays that would rank as some of the best I've ever seen in real life, so if they get even slicker it'll be a bit ridiculous.
    People (the online community mainly) moaned so much about anything not being hit well resulting in a hit that they've ended up making all the infielders into superhumans. Infield hits may be infuriating, but they are a massive part of real baseball, but almost a non-event in recent show games. Same for beating out double plays, in real life it's pretty tough to turn a double play with a quick runner, unless it's rocketed at someone playing double play depth, whereas it's not even uncommon on the recent games to have a quick runner doubled up and not even be halfway to first base.
    You could sort of fix it at least in franchise by nerfing the reactions slider, but in a lot of modes the sliders are fixed and we're stuck with these ninjas in the infield, gobbling up everything except screamers that perfectly dissect the infielders, making perfect throws from off balance positions.
    beau21
    Hate to be that guy, but unless it’s an old build, Kauffman looks identical to last year. Can’t help but be frustrated when I post and repost evidence of the same errors and omissions every year and they don’t change. Maybe there’s a chance it’s an old build still. Here’s hoping.
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    Join the club I feel the same way about Citizens Bank Park.
    There are a lot of things that need updating and by the looks of the trailers Citizens Bank Park is once again getting the shaft! :(
    I have sent in info on what needs to be updated many years in a row now and Citizens Bank Park still looks the same.
    Why is it so hard for SDS to get updated info on how Citizens Bank Park currently looks?
    I hate to complain because I think SDS are the best at what they do but as a Phillies fan it's really starting to piss me off :( lol
    I guess I am going to have to wait for MLB The Show 21 on PS5 when all the stadiums will most likely be completely redone. I just hope they get it right then.
    tnixen
    Join the club I feel the same way about Citizens Bank Park.
    There are a lot of things that need updating and by the looks of the trailers Citizens Bank Park is once again getting the shaft! :(
    I have sent in info on what needs to be updated many years in a row now and Citizens Bank Park still looks the same.
    Why is it so hard for SDS to get updated info on how Citizens Bank Park currently looks?
    I hate to complain because I think SDS are the best at what they do but as a Phillies fan it's really starting to piss me off :( lol
    I guess I am going to have to wait for MLB The Show 21 on PS5 when all the stadiums will most likely be completely redone. I just hope they get it right then.
    Because they don't care.
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    bcruise
    Well clearly it's not mimicking barrels exactly now as no groundball can ever be considered one, so I'll have to walk that speculation back a bit. But it doesn't mean that the system isn't modeled after the kind of results that barrel-type contact produces.
    Also....I would be VERY surprised if every "perfect grounder" is an automatic hit. I would think that they'd have the lowest base hit chance out of the perfect-perfect trio. Perfect Flyballs probably have the best chance of the 3 because they're likely HR's unless hit to dead CF with a low-power hitter - these will probably be actual "barrels" and many of those leave the yard.
    Hopefully we'll get a full explanation Thursday.
    This thread kinda blew up while I was at work, so I apologize if anything I've said has been confirmed/denied already.

    Hopefully we get a thorough explanation tomorrow.
    It is a little disconcerting that they are touting it as a reward. If that is the case your reward is a hit. It would have been helpful if they showed or mentioned an out situation. Hopefully it is throttled on how generous you can achieve that result. I am also interested in knowing if the CPU can achieve a perfect-perfect result.
    bigwill33
    Still only one uniform template, saw buttons on the Cubs blue throwbacks.
    Didn’t see any new tag animations. Same tired home plate slides and tags.
    Can’t tell what’s different about the throw meter. Looks the same. Have to take their word and see what they say on Thursday about it.
    Wondering how the control will be with the stutter steps and happy feet outfielders. Not a huge fan of more graphics on the screen during game play in that fielding icon. But will see how it all works out.
    No new cameras. I hate how far back and high the cameras are after the ball has been put into play. I miss the low camera angle for fielding and post contact.
    Hoping they’ve done something with pickoffs and leads from bases. That part of the game is ugly and old.

    Love the camera angles. I don't think they were default last year?
    The dirt at CBP should be a easy fix I would think. The number fonts on the outfield walls have been wrong forever. I think scoreboard layouts are a little off to!
    modernlord
    The dirt at CBP should be a easy fix I would think. The number fonts on the outfield walls have been wrong forever. I think scoreboard layouts are a little off to!

    A lot of things are wrong :(
    TheBleedingRed21
    So did they just confirm perfect perfect does result in automatic hits...?
    It was stated that getting perfect perfect would mean you are rewarded.

    It's a feature to counter what people were sayin' last year about not seeing positive results with good timing and swing placement. It'll probably yield a base hit 90% of the time.
    The team that decides what is done with this game every year ignores core issues and injects new unnecessary things. It's not ideal.
    MLB14
    It's a feature to counter what people were sayin' last year about not seeing positive results with good timing and swing placement. It'll probably yield a base hit 90% of the time.
    The team that decides what is done with this game every year ignores core issues and injects new unnecessary things. It's not ideal.

    I'm kinda hoping that this is purely cosmetic, and the game already calculates it's going to be a hit before it flashes Perfect/Perfect, just to shut the vocal minority up that think hard hit balls are automatic hits.
    If not this is a gigantic step into Arcade territory.
    I don't believe for 1 second that "Perfect-Perfect" will yield a guaranteed hit. It simply means that you had perfect timing and perfect alignment on the bat. I can hit perfect timing with perfect contact and the ball be 1 foot outside the zone, it doesn't guarantee a hit, it just guarantees the the speed of the ball off the bat will be at its peak for that situation.
    That all being said, my favourite part of pre-season for sports games is the whining and complaining about things we have no idea about, and based purely on our own feelings and beliefs. We talk about wanting a society of "innocent until proven guilty" but as video game player we are so much more a "guilty until proven innocent" type of group. :)

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