MLB The Show 20: List of Classic Seasons & Historical Specialty Rosters for MLB The Show

Jermars666(kbunny I think.) is porting over PhilParent's 1994 roster to 17. He is about 1/2 done according to him. So that is a WIP.

KBunny is JethroTull. And he ported over his 1987 Full Minors.

Oh yeah that's right. Phil Parents's 1994 set is being ported over to 17 by jermars666, however. He mentioned it it squashbuggie's thread about him doing updates to it on 16.

This is fantastic but, I've never understood, how do you FIND these in the vault? The search tools are awful. I can never find them.

If you filter by type "HISTORIC", all the top rated rosters come up. If that doesn't work, sort by Owner.

Thank you. I've not done a lot of roster vault so I wasn't aware of the filter.
Any chance of any kind of description on some of these? Some like "great teams" is impossible to know what they are since the team names can't be changed.

I did ratings edits in my Franchise File for 07 and 94 and stats are perfect. If anyone wants to know my editing scales, just let me know and someone can put the work in and port those files.

Just a heads up as I've updated my roster sets. If anyone is looking for my rosters under the first page category MLB Classic Specialty Rosters in the MLB 16 vault, the correct versions are now v1.2, v1.3, v2.2 and v3.2 under the PSN handle of BostonRob75.

A few of the creators have their own thread to discuss what they've made. But all of them pretty much have included some info in the original of this thread. There's a "Search This Thread" feature on all threads if you do not want to go through all the posts.
I'm guessing we're going to have to repopulate that info in this thread for info purposes.

That's a good idea. Don't mind helping.
The biggest problem is people don't usually have the same name here as they do in the vault (e.g. bostonrob75/bostongahden)

The server has been shut down for '14, unfortunately.
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Game 5, 1989 NLCS, alternate history, Sandberg doubles off of Bedrosian in Game 5 instead of grounding out, and drives in Mitch Webster and Jerome Walton, and the Cubs manage to get the series back to the Windy City.
Game 6, Don Zimmer decides to start Steve Wilson. Sutcliffe tried to hide his injured shoulder, but pitching coach Dick Pole was not fooled.
Wilson pitched admirably, allowing 3 runs, all of them earned in 4.1 innings. He left down 3-1. It was still that score in the bottom of the ninth, and there were long faces at Wrigley.
Some hope was to be had, as Sandberg singled to lead off. However, Grace popped out to Robbie Thompson for the first out. As Dwight Smith stepped up to the plate, the crowd had mixed reactions. Some were disappointed, some were grateful for the magnificent 1989 season the Cubs had had.
But all was not lost. As Smith took a low slider, my wife's voice came in from the other room: "Herschie, can you help me make the bed?".
Yeah, took me out of the moment just a tad!
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O.S. All Time 25 man roster is finally done (again) in the vault and is ready to download. For those of you that have been around for awhile, these were first done in 2012 by myself and about 5 others guys on here in 2012. A guy named Scooter on here did most of the pre 60's player faces and really nailed the likeness, while myself and couple others did the rest. The ratings are based off of career stats, so not everyone is 99 for everything. Pitcher repertoires are based of the Neyer James book. I ported them over to '14 when the PS4 came out, and here they are again. They are set to 25 man rosters (plus a couple extras for a few teams) and ready for season play, or exhibition play. The players numbers are all correct, but if you edit them, it will mess them up. I'm going to start working on my 1990 set next, enjoy!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k4HaHWMCUfBDu_Qwlh-t-VhuUM22BEeNAOjsoZOcBPY/edit?usp=sharing

Pj flat out, thank you for your dedication bro, i mean seriously, everyone contributes in some way or another, and then you have those like yourself and many others in this community that go above and beyond to make a great game even greater! its appreciated brotha. :waytogo:

THANK YOU!!!!!
I have been waiting for this and checking the vault nightly!
I leave for a month long tour with The Cult on Monday. Now I can get some killer tournaments and a classic season going on the tour bus.
AWESOME!

PJ thank you very much for all your hard work and dedication. I've checked every night you uploaded a new preview and have had so much fun with your roster. My friends and I are going to start a season in a week once we get the sliders dialed in with the roster. Thank you so much again. The show needs to hire you!!!
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Thanks PJ, this is awesome.

Trying to figure out if it is just me or if there is a problem with these ported rosters. Maybe half the players look alright, and the other half look terrible. Off the top of my head, the A-Rod in almost all these files looks terrible, and the Joe Morgan has a really weird looking face too.
I know these were accurate in 2016 and The Show changed some things in create-a-player. Are there any rosters with face tweaks, or am I doing something wrong with the files?

Great work PJ! Thank you for your effort and precision.

Great stuff PJ. I have a season up and running with the all-time Mets.

I was thinking about trying to make a roster with classic teams from different eras. The White Sox would be from 2005, the Cubs from 2016, Diamondbacks from 2001, etc. Has this been done or anyone doing something similar? Would anyone be interested? Just wanted to pass some time while waiting for the hybrid roster to come out. Plus would like to contribute something back since I've been using OS rosters for years

Its not just you. I'm working on a roster and touching all the players up but I'll admit, I'm not DrSublime. I do think I'm getting better though and I will go back through the first few I updated as I go along. I'm through 13 teams and its in the vault under my username.
Any and all critiques welcome.

BostonRob and Ohdannyboy (sp?) did so last year and they were great. As far as I know, I do not think they have plans to port them over, unfortunately. Even porting any of those over would be a great service.

I've got an All Time single season roster which has the greatest single season's teams for each franchise. Again, they would just need to be ported over. Not to step on anyone's toes on here, but I could put them into the vault if people want to see this set. It's got the '75 Reds, '82 Brewers, 2005 White Sox etc.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-dm8NeI231L6_3H-ZxYq4FrjUrVegX58WH8tyV4H4ms/edit?usp=sharing

Raises hand, please and thank you.

what is the name of the file in the 16 vault ?
thanks

They were made in either 14 or 15, can't remember. I'll work on my 1990 set and this one and have them up within a few weeks or so.

by all means PJ, it is truly needed bro, your rosters were lost from those era's im with everyone else, i'll raise my hand as well bro!!!

Hey guys just finished version 3 of my 92 set. It's a full 30+ man set. Been working on it like crazy to perfect it. I think I'm finally done! I may release one more with minor brush ups. Loving the nostalgia. I didn't have 16 so for me this is a real treat. Guess I treated myself! Let me know what you think.

Awesome man. I am very impressed with this roster. The details are crazy good. Look forward to running with several teams in this one, (Braves, Pirates, A’s) to name a few.
OP has been updated to reflect V3 of this roster and PJ’s OS All Time Roster.

I've done this for MLB 16 so check it out. PSN handle is BostonRob75 and I have a thread up on teams included here > http://www.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/879868-classic-teams-mlb-16-a.html

I hope to transport some over in the summer. I'm a teacher by trade so that's when I have the most time. Still happy with MLB 16 at the moment though. Anyone's welcome to do the leg work now though.:wink:

Regarding my 1990 project;
The following teams are complete. 40-man rosters, as per 1990 Opening Day.
Blue Jays
Red Sox
Yankees
Indians
Royals
Tigers
Twins
White Sox
A's
Mariners
Rangers
Braves
The following teams are partially complete;
Brewers (position players)
Pirates (accurate roster, no edits)
Reds (accurate roster, no edits)
The Rays, Marlins, D-Backs and Rockies are being populated with older AAA players who didn't play in the bigs after 1989. I hope to have 30-35 players per team when all is said and done.
I'm working on a FA list also, not sure how that is going to go though. At the halfway mark I've only got about a dozen guys. Better than nothing I guess!
User name AaronS004, most recent update is the Tigers.
.. for '16. I'll port this if/when the glitches are patched.
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If there's a team (lets say 93 Jays) and I wanted to take them and put them into a league with other individual year teams, can the whole team be exported at once and reinserted into another saved league? How does that work? I'm too much of a purist, I don't like all-time teams with mixed era players, like Jeter playing with Dimaggio. But there is some incredible work done by people recreating a specific season's roster and would love to make a division of 5 or 6 Blue Jays teams, for example. You don't have to export players one by one do you?

So this roster is for MLB16 not 17. Please clarify.

You do have to export by individual player.

Yes, I'm building on '16.
I'll gladly port it if they get their issues ironed out this year.
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Thank you I really appreciate that. Still for some reason people have disliked the roster. Lol. Oh well, I think it's great and telling from your response so do others. If there is anything that you find missing or feel like I should edit please don't be afraid to give your feed back guys. Thinking about starting a thread for these rosters too.

dont let the dislikes worry ya bud, i vote every time i'm able to get on the game, because just like in the real world, there's idiots out there that are jealous and just down right hateful and literally try to vote peoples work down on purpose, I've seen it happen since 14, so i made it my prime focus to when i get on the game to vote, so great rosters dont get lost in the shuffle as time goes on. your download speaks volume and as I've said i appreciate you creating them.

Anyone knocking a roster maker needs to shut up. You dont have to like the work but dont knock it. It takes forever. Ive been doing it for myself for years. Sure I've downloaded ones I think are inaccurate, so I fix them to my liking, just like when I've offered rosters of mine and had no problem with others editing.
Voting down, nothing you can do about that so it's not really worth worrying about.
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This is exactly why I edited the OSFM 2007 and Phil Parent's 94 roster in a Franchise File. I got exact true to ERA sim stats and I would NOT want a scrub to have that roster.

Doncropper, with the new fix for Pitchers in this new patch, are you coming back :):)

You Bet ...... checking it out now and it is looking promising. Had already just about decided to stick with 17 without using Quick Counts but kinda like using them to quicken up the game.

exactly. unless you're paying for a roster, theres no right to complaint.

Thanks so much for keeping this going. 1994, 1998, and 2000 are my most anticipated rosters at the moment

Bacon96 has released a 90 man fictional roster for use in franchise and season mode.
It is really cool.
He created the 25 man roster for each team and used the fictional stock minor league players that come stocked with the game out of the box.
If you love playing fictional league baseball....this is your roster!

Just a heads up on my 1990 set, I've got 10 teams done. I'm basically using my 1989 set, trading players to their '90 team, editing their ratings, changing their age and adjusting their equipment, importing the rookies, and then updating the '89 rookies to have service time. They should be ready to go within the week. After that, I'll get to work on the "Best single season team roster".

Armor, since you are obviously in contact with him, and he is no longer posting here, is there any chance you could get a ETA of some sort on the 2000 roster from Knight? I miss being able to track the progress of Knights rosters in his threads. Just dying to know how far along he is, and am willing to help in any way if he needs it. Worth a shot.

Does anyone know if the 2001 classic season is a 25 man or 40 man roster?
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Nice collection Armor, very helpful. Good to see so many skilled people creating rosters, it's amazing!
Thought I would mention, but on MLB 14 I made the 1996, 1997, and 1998 set that year from scratch in case you want to update that. Not sure if those are the sets that have been ported, but would be willing to bet on it haha.
Anyway, that's not what brought me in here.
I thought instead of going on a typing spree I would just throw a link to my thread and update in here. For anyone who is using my 1996 set, I highly recommend doing a few quick edits to complete the set. You won't have to do this for the 97 and 98 sets, but I strongly encourage you to for 96 as it will thoroughly enhance your experience.
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/905786-official-1996-1997-1998-roster-project.html
Keep up the good work boys!

25 man roster.
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Thank you
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Have a good Show modding year everyone.
Since Fire Pro World is seemingly being delayed, I've started (probably sterile) work on a 1998 mod from scratch.
Heh, keeps me occupied. Don't expect it to actually come out ever. But it does have correct birth places, salaries (adjusted for market inflation), contracts and YOS. Pitchers have the right pitch repertoires and batters have the right hitting tendencies. Made from scratch in this year's game.

T.B.T.C 2000 Season Replay Roster is currently being worked on. It will be a while before it releases. But needless to say it is in progress and will be detailed to a tee.
After that is completed Knight will be porting over 1965 and 1975 T.B.T.C rosters as well.

Thanks so much for these details! I believe the difference with 2000 is that it will have to come from scratch, as it can't be ported from MLB 10 or whichever version it was first released on.

With both baumy and Phil parent talking about starting separate 1998 rosters, is there any way we could have one become a 1999 roster? That is one year that has never been created on this generation of MLB the show. Or even baumy and Phil working together could save a lot of work. Just a suggestion. I would also like to help if needed
Amazing visions of having every year of the 1990's :)

Finished the Pirates and Brewers in my '90 project.. 2 really good, talented teams... On to the World Champion Reds.
Hope to have 2 more teams finished over the weekend.
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Nah, Baumy should keep working on his. Mine has a low percentage chance of coming out. Only 33 players done to this point, total.
I'm putting in players in order of YOS. It saves times when importing the base player that has YOS since you only need to have 1 at a time each for fielder and pitcher instead of having many you have to scroll through.

That is correct. This brand spanking new for 17.
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Hmmm I recall you said the same thing years ago about 1994 Phil, and here we are in 2017 awaiting the 2nd or 3rd porting of it, more complete than any other roster I've played. :grin:

And anybody that wants to do it is absolutely free to port it again.
Would be the 4th port.

By chance are any of the classic rosters, aside from the 1987 one we did, have a 90 man? If not a 90 is there a 40 man out there? I was curious to see if I could run another franchise with a later year.
Again and as always all the rosters people are working on are awesome love playing a few games here and there with them.
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If you still have 16 the 2007 90 man is an awesome roster.
You can set up a franchise and Y2Y that right to 17
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Can someone please make a 2005 roster for MLB the show 17
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I am currently working on one and I would expect it to be done sometime next week. If any face makers would like to help I would appreciate it (I'm terrible at faces).

Completed and posted the 1990 Reds for my 40-man project. On to the Cubbies and Red Birds.
.. The Reds would be fun in season mode. Pitched a 2-hit shutout in my QA game.
Rijo was beastly, brought in The Sheriff who got Bonds on 3 pitches. Officer Dibble and Randy Myers pitched 2 innings of no-hit ball to seal the deal. Nasty, indeed!
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Last night in my 92 set, I was playing a season and in the NLCS Greg Harris of the Padres had a no hitter going into the 9th against the Expos. He was 2 outs away when Wallach hit a shot up the middle. Fernandez dove for it, fully outstretched but the ball hit off the top of his glove and proceeded up center field. The announcers let everyone know the perfect game was blown. Padres eventually still make it to the Worldseries agains the Twins who bearly escaped the A's after being down 3 games to 1. Greg Harris Puts in in a 1 hit shout out. Bitter sweet. Historic rosters are the best.

most definitely

I want that roster in MLB 17 so I might try to convert it, anyone with experience have an ETA on how long that might take? 90-man roster might be a while but with enough dedication I'm sure I could pull it off

Talk to JethroTull about porting the roster.
The first step is DL from 16's vault and setting up a franchise mode file with CPU Roster Control turned On.
Then it is simply exporting and importing players into a new franchise file.
Roster makers please chime in on this and give a step by step on porting over a roster! We have someone willing to Port the awesome 2007 Roster!!

Just to export and import into a new roster would take about 30-45 minutes per team if you're doing all 90 per team. That's a generous estimate.
It can be daunting, but if you keep notes and make sure to save a back up on the vault, you should be fine.
Let us know if you have additional questions.

That's not terrible... if I got my ducks in a row and really pushed for it I could probably do a division a day and have it done in 6 days of working on it... but with my work schedule it would be a bit longer than that before it would actually be complete.
The only other concern I have would be regarding faces and if they would stay the same from 16 to 17 with all the changes to player customization, but as I am terrible with making faces anyways I would hope that if I exported the full 90-man roster from 2007 that someone who is good at it would be able to download that file from the vault and "check over it" so to speak.
As for credit, I would make sure to put the name of the original creator in the description of my roster as they obviously put the majority of the work in to make it happen.

That is definitely more time consuming. I'm working through that with the roster I'm currently working on. After a couple of weeks of doing faces, eyes, bodies, I'm drained and taking a few days break.
If you just do the eyes and skin color, you could probably do 1-2 mins per player. Again being generous. More realistically...you'll want to fix some hairstyles, fix uniforms, reshape head....now you're looking at 10-15 per player, depending on how much better you want it to be.
One other thing not mentioned yet, you have to at least sim through spring training to be able to use on '17. That will tweak the ratings. Some will get better ratings...some worse. For my roster, I'm basically re-rating everyone.
If you just want to port it over, that would be awesome and greatly appreciated. I think anything else would require a coordinated team effort, personally.

If anyone can import 2007, it would be greatly appreciated for those of us who no longer have mlb 16

Down to updating the 1990 Phillies and then moving retired players off their '89 teams and onto Colorado and Florida. The '90 roster will have all the bells and whistles of the '89 set. I'll try to get them into the vault tonight.

i'm in the midst of importing and editing it. no ETA as of yet but getting there

AWESOME.
For 1989 I decided to run as the California Angels. About to get started on that Season Replay and I will be using Quick Counts exclusively in that one coupled with Quick Manage. Should be a fun and fast replay. Once I get to the post season however we play every pitch, every AB (I play the post season in every season replay I do regardless if my main team makes it or not).
For 1990 I am really bouncing around the idea of being Oakland and seeing if I can change history and get them a back to back title (they won it in 1989 of course in the Earthquake Series vs The Giants). It was a shocking sweep by the Reds and the Nasty Boys. The Pirates were also a great club that year!
Can't wait PJ. So happy to have these updated now for 17.

No rush friend just great appreciation for you :woot:

'90 is in the vault and ready to go.
I've been playing my '89 season with quick counts and simming the pitching, about 50 games into the season. I'm going to try to get through a full season with my '89 and '90 A's. When I knock those out, going to play a season with the '61 Yankees with the rosters I'll start porting over next. The next one will have all of the best single season teams from each franchise.

ty for releasing bro, i have been playing your 89 set big time and it has been awesome! ty for doing these! grabbing these right now!

I've been playing with your rosters for the last 3 or 4 years. They are amazing. They really capture baseball of my childhood, especially bay area baseball. Thank you for your hard work.
Are you working on anything from the late 90s or early 2000s? I would love a 2002 with the A's historic streak and the Giants world series trip. Anyways, thanks again for all your hard work and i look forward to using your rosters every year!

Can you please add JohnEKool's 1981 roster to the MLB 17 list? Its a good one!

UUUUUUGGGGGHHHHHH
So many rosters, so little time. Can i take my Mets and win the division and compete for a World Series? Finished 4 games behind the Pirates in 1990.
Thank you for making these.

Bay area baseball in the late 80's were some good times. I started watching the A's in late '87 early '88, and became a big fan around that time. All my friends were Giants fans, so I ended up going to a lot of games at Candlestick way back when.
I'm doing an all time single season roster right now. I've got the 2001 A's going on there (as well as the '73 and '90 A's). I have a 2002 Giants team somewhere that I can add on as well. I think a few other guys have done the 2001 and 2002 rosters before so I haven't touched them. As an A's fan, those years hurt being that they didn't win the World Series with those teams, at least they got an Oscar nominated movie out of it. I might be up for a 2001 roster somewhere down the road.

A's and Giants were so fun in the late 80's early 90's. The battle of the bay is some of my earliest memories. I grew up watching both teams but my family were all Giants fans so i followed.
I would love a 2002 Giants on the all time single season roster. Thank you! I was really hoping 2002 would've ended up being another battle of the bay so the Giants could exact some revenge. If you work on a 2001 roster let me know if i can help you in anyway. Thanks again, i look forward to all of your future projects.

I suggest you download the 07 roster edits I made. the sim stats are much better than abotti's upload. I am not knocking him, as he deserves all the crdit fo the rosters. the sim stats are almost exact. I perfected them in my Franchise File and it is so much fun. The rosters are in the MLB 16 vault and my PSN is: SaintPadrePio

PJ, I made some edits to the 1989 roster, importing Luis Salazar and a better Sandberg, since the one they made looks nothing like him. But now Maddux is number 32, and Lloyd McClendon is 11 again. How do I get around the retired numbers and make them 31 and 10?
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Yeah I don't understand why certain numbers won't save. Even if the number is unoccupied.

So here's what you have to do to get the numbers fixed,
Go to Roster Control
Send Maddux and McClendon to single A
Go to Manage roster
Make sure no one is wearing 31 and 10 in single A, if so, find out who is and change their number to something different,
Then change their numbers to 31 and 10
Go back to manage roster and call them up
Save roster and they should be ok. If you change the roster at all, it will undo the number trick
On a side note, I have these teams ported over to the next roster:
'04 Red Sox
'61 Yankees
'93 Blue Jays
'73 and '01 A's
'86 Mets
'75 Reds
'82 Brewers
'55 Dodgers
added this morning
'79 Pirates
'16 Cubs
'54 Indians
'85 Royals
'91 Twins

Can't wait for that Great Teams roster!
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Thanks, it worked. If you want, I can put the 1989 playoff rosters in the vault, since the ones you made seem to be from midseason. Giving you full credit, of course.

They're from the end of the year, left Salazar off just because others guys had more at bats or more playing time than others. Marvell wynne also was a causality, I think. Feel free to do whatever you like with them, once they're in the vault, they're for the community.
Upon request, half of the teams are done and in the vault. The teams listed above, plus the '84 Tigers and '62 Giants are in there. Haven't updated the hairstyles yet, but everything else is good to go.

Just a quick update on my 2005 25man roster project for those who are interested. I have completely finished BAL through CLE (with the exception of a few players I still want to add). Every player in this roster received a face touch up from me and also has correct attributes(BAL to CLE)/Equipment (All Players done). I wanted each player to look as realistic as possible so I went in and touched up each player with photos from the 2005 season as reference. Some took hours and others took just a few minutes. All faces and equipment will be from the 2005 season and are as close as I could get them (With my limited face skills). I have a preview roster in the vault under the PSN: Vorse_W33Z if you would like to check it out. The first version of the roster should be done this week since I only have 23 more teams to rate and about 8-10 more players to add. Last thing I will finish is lineups and then the roster will be on its way. If anyone notices something wrong in the preview feel free to let me know. I will be releasing updates throughout the year with the hope of having a version 2 later this year. This version will include all 40 man rosters and top 10 prospects for each team.

Awesome!!
OP is updated as a work in progress. Look forward to checking it out!!

Hey friend Are you using a base, or attempting to do every single face from scratch? Many players, most even, already have decent to good versions created in other rosters so it might save you time if you imported those and focused on creating the new faces. I know there is a 2001 mod, and a 2007 mod that should cover most players in 2005.

I took most players over from other rosters and then edited them. Some faces I thought were good so I just changed facial hair, hair and equip. Other faces I had to completely redo.

Can any roster makers speak to the stat caps that presently exist in the game? In the past we've had stat caps where a hitter like Cobb, or Gwynn couldn't bat over .350, even with maxed ratings. And forget about .400....Does this still exist?
What is the most Home Runs a player can hit per year? Can a player hit over 60, through simming? If a player has 100 in all power stats, where does he usually end up? How bad is the rubberband effect?

I'll be uploading the Orioles tonight, which will be 19 of 26 teams completed on the 1990 40-Man.
7 teams left, plus FAs, and making sure the expansion teams are set.
I hoped to have this done and rolling by Memorial Day. Not sure that's going to happen.
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I just received 17 for my b-day from my daughter. Haven't played since '13. I had bought '16 out of a garbage bin a couple months ago but never got around to playing it. I'm really in to all the classic rosters out there but it seems like there are quite a few good season replay ones for '16. Should I just load up '16 and then download what seasons I want and then port them to '17? Or should I wait for the owners to do this? I've never ported before, not sure how to do it.

Became an A's fan back in '72 at the start of their 3 WS wins. I lived in Asia at the time and you could only get California teams. Even though I live in Reds country now (avatar) I still watch the a
A's on MLBTV almost every night.

Take your time man....but I am SO stoked by this....I started die-hard baseball watching in 1990 and saw my Reds win it all....so many good memories for me!
Thank you much!!!

My choice in your situation would be to install 16 to download a much larger variety of classic rosters available now and transfer them to 17 if you want to run a Season and/or Franchise.

My 2005 Roster will be out either Friday or Saturday. Quick question for CAP and roster makers. How would I find out what pitches a certain pitcher throws. I've been looking around and I cannot seem to find it. I have 3 guys who do not have the correct pitches and I would like them to. The players are Keiichi Yabu (OAK), Ryan Drese (TEX), and Brad Halsey (ARI) if that would help anyone.

Thanks doncropper. I'll do that. There's a lot there.

On fangraphs.com they show pitch types for each season and the percentage that the player threw them.

Ok, thanks for the reply. I use fangraphs to rate my players but I must of missed it.

Check out my 92 roster on 17. 17 is a better game offline by a lot.

What a resource. So many things available to roster makers these days, its a great thing.

Is there a "porting tutorial"? I have no clue how to do it.

Start a season or franchise on 16 with CPU roster control on.. Load up 17 and import franchise or season from 16. Go to CPU Roster Control and begin exporting. Then import those players to your new roster.

I'm really looking forward to this one, skimmed through the WIP version and it looks promising for sure. Thank you for your hard work on this roster, the final version will definitely get a "like" vote from me in the vault.

Been playing The Show for years now but never really thought about playing a season using historical rosters. I decided to start one yesterday with the 1990 Pirates. I must say I am having a blast. Brings back some great memories when I was 5 going to Three Rivers. I remember Sid Bream gave me a ball one game. Awesome. Thanks a lot for putting these rosters together!
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Hopefully they add Three Rivers Stadium back as a retro stadium soon.

In addition too:
Old Tigers Stadium
The Astrodome
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We need both of those stadiums as classics. We also need Veterans Stadium.

My 2005 roster will be released later tonight. I wanted to release it yesterday but I ended up going to Cleveland for the Cavs watch party. The roster includes 25 rosters, lineups, equipment, etc. The roster is under the name Vorse_W33Z. I hope everyone enjoys!

thx bro for doing these i appreciate your hard work man!

I had a lot of fun doing these! MVP Baseball 2005 is my favorite game so this brought back so many memories. The official version 1 roster is out now.

Played a game with it already... it is an excellent roster thank you so much for your hard work on it :appl:

Looks really solid man and the facework looks really good! Like you said, brings back a lot of memories from the MVP Baseball era :D
Thanks a lot!!!

Just download looks great and I think I see a couple of my caps in there awesome!!!

Quick update on 97 guys.
I'm on the Mets right now, but everything looks great so far.
Would like to get it done within the next two weeks so I can hit the home stretch with 98 and just do nothing but enjoy this awesome game.
PS - The Marlins team is sick haha. Atlanta is too, but their rotation is that of legend. Maddux, Smoltz, Glavine, Neagle, and an impressive Rookie Kevin Millwood. 97 was a great year in baseball.

I can’t wait to play with the 97 Marlins. I was at several games during the season and in that post season run including Game 7. Amazing year. And yes Atlanta was incredible that year. Getting by them was no easy task.
Heading into June with your 1996 set right now with the Yankees.....a 1.5 game lead in front of the very tough Baltimore Orioles.

Agreed really nice work and the faces look top notch!!!
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Does anyone have the post draft 2014 full rosters? If so, plz port to 17, for some reason I want to do a twins rebuild with the old rosters
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You may have to do it yourself....that is a massive undertaking to do a full port of a roster set....and for one that would likely have very minimal appeal across a broader audience.

Love the detail work on the appearances! And The sim stats in your roster are always among the best! Thank you!

Quick update on this beast, 25 teams have been completed and a WIP/Backup is in the Vault. Toronto, Colorado, Miami, Arizona and Tampa Bay left to be completed. I should be done within a week....hopefully.
I will do a full write up once complete with an updated roster excel sheet as I need to revisit the relievers.
If any of you do check it out, please don't hesitate to let me know if anything is amiss.

I took a quick look at The Yankees, Royals, Tigers, Marlins and Blue Jays.
They look awesome. The faces are really nice too man. Great job on the 60's and 70's players looking authentic too.
One question though, is how do you feel about players on multiple teams.
EG: Miguel Cabrera and Alex Rodriguez.
If you are going to play a season with these....you will have them face off vs each other. Just curious if this is something you felt was not a big deal.
Also one player I saw ommited....and I understand it is an All-Time War roster.....but was curious. Are Bo Jackson's WAR rating for the Royals too low? And was it just not enough impact in his short time there? Bo was a beast in his short stint.....but my was it awesome to watch him play in the late 80's.
If you are going to keep the duplicate players.....I don't care....the roster is awesome.
Just curious on your thinking.

Miami and Toronto are not completed as of yet. The players were ported over, but thats it.
When I made last years roster, I was totally against the idea of multiple players on different teams...and I kind of still am...to a degree. But what this roster is basically honoring all those players that have brought the greatest contributions....per team. What I have done though is to ensure those players are all a bit different.
For example, Arod. On the M's, he's the skinny, speedy, great defensive and offensive shortstop with low socks and no "body armor". On the Yankees, he's no longer speedy, a bit thicker and more of a power hitter with quite a bit of armor. On the Rangers, he's a bit of in between the two. But he belongs on all three as he's just a WAR monster. Also, ratings were based on their most average season per team.
Having said all that, I do prefer having unique players and maybe once I'm done with the 50 man, I'll try to create an all time like I did for MLB 16.
As far as Bo goes....I love Bo. I used to be a Raiders fan in the 80s when they were in LA. As such, I followed Bo's career on the Royals from a distance....we had much less options back then.
The problem is, Bo's career war is 8.3 total. That's just one "eh" season of Trout. For the Royals, he accumulated only 7, which is not in the top 10 for their OFs.
Once I do get a chance to get the 75 man done...which honestly might not come til MLB 18, he will be on that roster....or the All Time after I finish the 50 man.
Here is the WAR roster. As I mentioned, I will probably be updating this a bit before the final release as I'm not happy with how the relievers list came out.
WAR Roster

update on my 2007 90-man roster:
I'm in the process of porting it to '17; it's a pretty long and tedious process but I've gotten through 2/3 of the teams, just have the NL Central and West left to port. tweaking faces, accessories, etc as I go. I know the sim stats are a little wonky so that'll be the next project once I get it ported over, if anyone knows a proven way of coming up with ratings let me know!! the new face models/skin tones are so fun to play with and it adds such authenticity to the roster as a whole. hopefully i can have the whole thing ported/uploaded within a couple weeks.

is this abotti98 ? well, I have perfected your 07 roster with 95% accurate sim stats. I put a thorough version in the 16 vault. That set has some appropriate changes. I did the full edits in a franchise file, so people would not get to use the set. Why ? cause you got pricks whom criticize and "thumbs-down" people that spend such time on rosters.

I would love to take a crack at making some old-timey rosters. I've been trying to figure out the best way to turn stats into attributes. Is there a tutorial somewhere?

No tutorial anywhere to be found. There is a gentleman here that created some excel macros that will give you all attributes for all players. Its a bit on the complicated side, but quite a few here swear by them.
I feel that they only work if you only have all created players as they are on the low side for my taste. So I just scour the players BR pages to get my attributes using dWAR, Ks, Walks, SLG, AVG, SB, CS and splits for position players and K/9, W/9, HR/9 and H/9 to determine most of the attributes.

it is very complicated and tedious and SCEA needs to let us globally edit ratings. you need to test and tweak to get these main stats correct:
*teams ERA's
*bb/9
*k/9
*sb/cs %
*and get as many SP with high IP totals (dependent on era of baseball your rosters are meant to replicate)

Can you give a progress update on 1994 if there is one friend? Thanks this is my most anticipated roster.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-dm8NeI231L6_3H-ZxYq4FrjUrVegX58WH8tyV4H4ms/edit?usp=sharing
Just a heads up on what I'm working on right now. I've got 22 teams done for my best single season team franchise roster. Here's what done:
2002 Angles
2001 Mariners
1973 2001 Athletics
1954 Indians
1984 Tigers
1985 Royals
1991 Twins
1961 Yankees
1993 Blue Jays
1970 Orioles
2004 Red Sox
1955 Dodgers
2001 Diamondbacks
1962 Giants
1975 Reds
1982 Brewers
1979 Pirates
1967 Cardinals
2016 Cubs
1986 Mets
1995 Braves
1980 Phillies
On a side note, also going o make a 2001 roster from scratch when these are done.

That is awesome news. However, you might want to save yourself ALOT of time by using JohnEKool's 2001 roster as a base. His is only a 25 man roster, but with your work combined, it may be able to turn into 40 man or 90 man, etc.

mr. heat: I heard that you just finished a roster. what year did you do ?

I can't wait to use this in playoff mode. Are you adding Randy Johnson to Houston's team? He was on their playoff roster.

Yes, each team will have the roster they used at the end of he year.

PJ,
You have 2 A's teams listed - 1973 and 2001...I am hoping you have the 73 team in there
:)
C

I cannot wait to play your 2001 roster. Thank you!

I was thinking about putting the '90 team on as well. '98 Yankees will also be on there.

Does anyone know if any these classic rosters use JTommy's RBU for ratings? Thanks, great work on all the rosters.

not sure. you may want to ask xxlationheatxx if this be the case. he is apparently working on a huge roster project, from what I was told.

Any chance of the 06 and 11 season being made for 17?

I heard that xxlationheatxx will be doing one of those seasons for sure ....

Source? If not stop with the nonsense.

I believe DonCropper...PSN name STECropper...uses them. He also uses OOTP for pitch types and rosters. He ported over at least one of his rosters. Late 60s I believe. Great roster.

Last update before posting the All Time WAR roster. I had completed the 25 man for all teams and finally went back to fix the relief pitchers query issue I noticed earlier. Turns out the problem was a bit bigger than I initially realized and need to add around 75 more players to complete. Still plan on being done by this weekend.
Updated Roster
ALL TIME WAR ROSTER

okay, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Can't wait for these rosters! Very excited for them!

Anyone know of some good sliders for the late 60s roster?
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sim or play ?
for sim, I would have starter/reliever stamina @ 10 and manager hook @ ZERO.
not sure about injuries back then ....

also, very high SP sta. for every SP

I uploaded the sliders I use for Late '60s Rosters to the vault. These were tested extensively using CPU vs CPU games. They are listed under stecropper and are named something like "60s Sliders" ......

thanks for all your work, don. and what is the late-60s' .... does that mean best players per team from 65-69 ? thx

The Late 60s roster set consist of teams from 1965-1969 plus 6 combo era teams for those teams not in existence during that time ..........
Here is the thread that list each teams entry:
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/875062-late-60s-v2-0-uploaded.html
The Early '60s ported roster set maybe up later tonight.
Here is it's thread link:
http://www.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show-rosters/874207-early-60s-v2-0-uploaded.html

Sim'ed stats look really good and improve as you sim less consecutive days at a time.
Thus, if you sim a week at a time they look really good, but if you sim only a day at a time they look even better.
I have found over the many years of messing with many different games engines that they almost all work that way -- where as if you sim a full season in one fell swoop at a time the results are typically different from if you only sim a calendar week at a time and even more different if you sim a single day at a time. This game proves to be no different than many of it's predecessors in that aspect of sim results.

very good and ty. I may play w/ both of these. I am younger and that ERA of baseball is my dad's time-frame. What do you think of using 4-man rotations and how can it be done ? I got ur sliders downloaded and are they the same for both ERA's of baseball ? I am also thinking that maybe putting all SP's Stamina to 95-99 would help with IP's ?

we really need global editing capabilities of all ratings. I took the time to perfect the stat for 94/07 rosters and it is great. I do not understand why someone would create a classic roster, and then stats not be 95% accurate. when I edited ratings, I perfected these stats:
*league wide ERA's
*k/9
*bb/9
*sb/cs
*FLD. %
it is useless to me for someone to port over a roster, then the sim stats are very skewed. Your thoughts on these matters ?
thanks

I agree with your thoughts on this. However, this logic only applies to full single season rosters where all teams are represented for that particular season since to verify the results you would have to have the real life results available. Due to many historical rosters having several teams filled in and like these rosters which represent teams from several different seasons then there is no way to perfect results as they are totally unknown and can only be speculative.
My other thoughts, on this subject, relate back to what I wrote in an earlier post where a lot depends on how one goes about to sim an entire season as to what results you will receive. Then if you do perfect sim results how close to realism are the games you actually play relative to the players ratings you have implemented to gain near perfect sim stats.
Thus, I personally rather have the games I play (either human vs human, human vs cpu or cpu vs cpu) have as much realism represented in them versus the sim stats being near perfect.
With MVP 2005 Total Classics we were able to create realistic Historical Seasons and I always kept track of the real life average Runs per game, Hits per game, Walks per game, Strikeouts per game, Home runs per game, Extra Base Hits per game & Errors per game so I could compare them to what the MVP 2005 game produced. And they actually were extremely close once you had tracked 20 or more games or so and grew closer as you increased the number of games tracked. To me that was more important than the end of the season stats being directly on target.
So, as with most things in life I don't think there is a Right Way or a Wrong Way but rather many ways and it is an individual's total choice to which he prefers.

Any chance of a 06 or 11 season roster?

Oh dude for sure. That was a special year in baseball, and I imagine even better as Marlins fan. I've used them twice and believe me - They are an absolute blast!
Good luck with your season man, and watch out for Toronto - They can be a good sleeper team.

Thank you, I really appreciate that. It's a process, but I love using the rosters and knowing some others do as well gives me more purpose.
Posting an update in my roster thread, but almost finished on 97. A little behind schedule but I'm trucking along.

Just a heads up, the 2007 90 man may be the wrong file or incomplete. I DL'ed yesterday and there are a lot of "Bob Random" and "Joe Random" players in the lower level of the minors of the AL East teams I checked.

yeah, it's still a work in progress :laugh: 40-man rosters are finished, 90-man rosters are on the way

do you feel it is necessary to re-rate ? tike redman is no tony gwynn right ....

I'm with you on the global editor. A global editor would save countless hours for roster makers. External editors that can be imported/exported would be even more ideal, but who knows if that will ever be a reality.
.. as far as the rest; attributes are half the work. If all I get out of a file is a 100% accurate roster for any given year, thats fine with me. Better than working up the rosters I want from scratch. Without an external editor, rosters are hours and hours of work. I'll take what I can get, and if I really want 100% accuracy, I'll make that happen.

Anyone else having this same issue? I downloaded dallmanator1's Franchise Stars roster from the vault and started a franchise with it. Everything works great until May 31st going into June 1st, MLB Draft Day. At that point, the game freezes and will not let me continue.
Is there a reason for this? The roster is great but if I can't use it for longer than 2 months of the season, thats a little disappointing.

good points and if a person puts all that work into the player creation - they sure as heck need to have accurate sim stats.

If it is not a 90 man roster......you can’t play a franchise with it.
You must use season mode....CPU roster control on and simply play just one season.

The All Time WAR 25 man roster is completed and uploaded into the vault.
This roster consists of the top 5 starting pitchers by WAR, top 6 RP, top 2 catchers, top 7 IFs, and top 5 OF for every team.
For the infielders and outfielders, there were a few teams where a position did not meet the top 7 or top 5, but there are players filling the position as their secondary. For example, the Tigers did not have a 3B that met the criteria, so Miguel Cabrera covers 3B as he had played significant time there.
All CAPS on the MLB rosters were redone. Most of these CAPS came from DrSublime, Knight, Marsl, stecropper and others. With the upgrade to the CAP engine, some did not transfer over well, so I re-edited every single one for physical aspects, as well as equipment and attributes. Physical aspects and equipment was based off google image searches using multiple sources if possible. Attributes by B-R and Pitch types by Neyer/James Guide to pitchers, Brooksbaseball and fangraphs. The attributes are created with game play in mind, not sim play. Although I have watched a few sim games and they seem to play well.
For the relief pitchers, there was a bit of a snag. When I initially generated the roster, the default query was 60% starts for SP and 80% relief appearances for relievers. The left quite a few pitchers that did not meet either criteria but that had significant careers as well as WAR. A new query was run at 40% relief appearances for RPs to fix the issue. What that has done is lowered the quality of the relievers some, as most of these players are failed starters. At 80%, the relievers are specialized and have better attributes on the whole. So while I adjusted the rosters and added the new relievers, the 80% group are still on the rosters, just not on the 25 man.
As far as Legends and current players go, if they look good, they were kept, but did adjust attributes and equipment. If I felt they did not look good, I replaced them with CAPS I felt had a better overall look to them.
In the Legends free agent tab are the N league players that were also updated, just as the others.
The plan is to do the 50 man roster next, but I do plan on taking a significant break as going over 850 CAPS has been a bit much.
If you have any questions or concerns, don't hesitate to ask.
All Time WAR Roster

Thank you so much for doing this, and for taking the time to edit the faces that looked horrible when transferred over. So many others are looking past that (and it takes time, so no hate thrown their way either).
This is the roster and roster base I'll likely be using for the rest of the game's duration.

@SC73Ray
Thank you for your work in these! Anxious to play a few games with my favorite second baseman. Very kind of you to include him right away in the roster. Excited to get home from work and play!

In a perfect world, sure!
I'll speak for myself; I don't have that formula at the moment.
What produces a 50+ home run hitter? Or the correct K/BB ratio? I don't have those answers. This is my first rodeo. But I don't want that to stop me from creating a roster that I'd like to play.
It's a process. I'm fine taking 1 step at a time.
Coming over from Madden, there aren't enough rosters. People won't put in the work. I'm happy with anything available.
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Hey guys, just a heads up on my latest roster. I'm finally down to three teams on the Franchise single season team roster. Each team has 25 man rosters, and each player has attributes that will reflect that season. Here's whats done:
2002 Angels
1973 2001 A's
1998 Astros
2001 Mariners
1954 Indians
2005 White Sox
1984 Tigers
1985 Royals
1991 Twins
1961 Yankees
1970 Orioles
1993 Blue Jays
2004 Red Sox
1955 Dodgers
1995 Rockies
1998 Padres
2001 Diamondbacks
1962 Giants
1975 Reds
1982 Brewers
1979 Pirates
1967 Cardinals
2016 Cubs
1986 Mets
1995 Braves
1980 Phillies
1997 Marlins
Not Finished
2011 Rangers
2008 Rays
1994 Expos
These should be done within the week.

This looks amazing PJ. Along with sc73ray we have two pretty amazing all-time rosters for 17.
Question is how do you have 2 A’s teams? Two different versions you upload?
Look forward to playing with these.
So many great rosters this year everyone......I am blown away. The only question is which one to start after I finish the 1996 Yankees season replay?
Oh decisions decisions decisions......

I have received word from Baumy that he has begun work on 1998, after doing 96 and 97. So that is some news to get excited about.This may be his last roster for the year.
Has anyone heard any info on the latest porting of 1994?

For the 1990 40-man ('16)
20 of 26 active teams are complete. (Giants most recent upload in the vault)
4 teams are complete but need a re-rate (Cards, Dodgers, Padres, Phillies)
Only 2 teams do not have 40-man rosters (Astros, Expos)
I'm hoping up have this done by the end of the month. Seems like I'm completing 2 teams/week.
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Thanks for your work on this year
Since I believe you said this is your first mlbts roster I was interested to know what your methods have been as we anticipate release. Did you use a base roster? Did you use a ratings calculator?

Probably best that I call ratings a work in progress.
I'm more confident that the pitchers will hold up as opposed to the hitters. It just seems like the pitchers ratings translate easier to the game, whereas, I'm not sure what the baseline ratings should be for a .330 hitter, or for slg%, for example.
Basically I plan to go back after a season of play for a re-rate on what needs work, at the very least for the stars/starters... Or I'm happy to collaborate on that if anyone wants to take that on.
.. I rated players based on 3-year averages, wherever possible.
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Excellent friend I really like the 3 year model compared to the 1 year. Whatever method you use, sim testing is really the only method to find out how accurate the ratings turned out, and tweaking from there.

I've got the '01 A's in AA right now, I'll probably add a few more teams to the minors for other teams as well.

Great! Not a demand at all...but if you do wind up doing this, would love to see the 65 Twins, 68 Tigers and 65 (or 63) Dodgers!
C

Excellent.
If you expand this further.....I will put in a humble request for the 1977, 1978 or 1981 Yankees (dealers choice).

You mentioned the OSFM 2007, 90-man was ported over.
I cannot find it today in vault.
What PSN name is it under ?
Please help here - as I plan to edit roster File for community w/ real sim stats.

If you notice I changed it to 40 man.
The PSN is listed next to the roster. It is not complete yet. Just 40 man is done.

So seriously.....I am blown away by everyones work this year.
I am half way through Baumy’s 1996 roster with my Yankees and anticipate finishing that season replay by mid July.
I am going to play the following next:
1989 Season Replay with PJ’s roster...but I am going to take a different approach. This is probably one of my favorite seasons because not only was I 19 and playing ball on a high level but I also was a rotisserie baseball fanatic. This was the original fantasy sport where 12 of us got together and did an auction and you chose your league (not mixed league) 5X5 scoring (not head to head BS). We played the AL in this one and I knew every single player up and down.
So in short I will play multiple teams and games throughout the season and play the post season (choose a team in each series and play it out). I really wanna soak in 1989.
I will do the same with PJ’s 1990 as well as his OS All-Time.
After that.....on to a Marlins 1997 Season replay with Baumy’s 1997 roster.
What a year for classic rosters on The Show!!!!

I cannot find it in the vault now. I think he pulled it, A & S .... do you know how to get ahold of him ?

Just wanted to say, I have been too busy to enjoy all of the great classic sets everyone has been doing, but from the little bit I've seen so far I am overly impressed. Thank you guys for all the work and going through the process. It is baseball heaven!
Also, don't hold me to this, but I am putting the finishing touches on the Padres now and then it's off to the gym. I figure if I push myself tonight I can do San Fran in a few hours and maybe, maybe releasing 1997 tonight.
But who am I kidding... It will feel great to get this project over with, so I'm going all in.
Barring internet outage/vehicular mishaps, look for it very late tonight.

you are the man! been waiting on this one to start a marlins franchise. thanks for all you do!

any one know how accurate the pitch edits are for the 2005 roster ?
and where is a good place to find accurate pitch types for individual pitchers, if one was to add these edits to that file ?
ty

My pleasure buddy. That's one of my all time favorite teams, so I understand haha.
Good news is, you don't have to wait anymore - The set is now up and live for all to use in the vault under "1997 Complete 25 man set"
Enjoy it boys. There are a lot of great teams to try and awesome rookies/returning vets.
1998 is in the batters box 👍

ty bro for releasing another awesome year in baseball!!

I am half-ways through editing the 2005, 25-Man roster file so the sim stats are exact to the real 2005 MLB season. I will start a thread when it is finished. thanks for all the great rosters and if we had a global editor, I would edit every single file to be accurate and not skewed stats. the results from 1997 are not like the results from 1975 ....

Whooo 1997 Marlins replay!!!!
Baumy!!! Awesome as always.
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Armor, your like the Adam Schaffer of classic rosters, how'd you get so connected? Lol