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Minor Leaguers Don't Get Paid For Their Likeness in MLB The Show 20 Until They Are Added to MLB Roster

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Minor Leaguers Don't Get Paid For Their Likeness in MLB The Show 20 Until They Are Added to MLB Roster

New this season, with the help of longtime OS’er Scott Spindler (RidinRosters) and his team, over 1,500 authentic minor league players will grace the launch version of MLB The Show 20. Over 100 of those prospects received face scans, as well as unique batting stances, pitching deliveries, and in some cases, impeccable equipment portrayals. These minor league players will come with their very own unique audio quips and cues to ensure storylines are felt as you promote your top prospects up the ladder.

Baseball America has posted some details on minor league player compensation, for their player likeness in MLB The Show 20. Guess what they get? Zero. Nada. Squat…

As soon as they sign their standard Minor League Player Uniform Contract, they forfeit their right to be compensated, for their likeness being used in a video game. That changes when they are placed on an official MLB roster.

Minor league players not on 40-man rosters will not receive compensation, however. When they sign their first pro contract with their MLB team, they sign away their rights to profit from video games, baseball cards and other uses of their publicity rights. That agreement means that when MLB provides a license, it can convey the rights of minor leaguers and include them in the game. (To use MiLB team logos and trademarks requires a separate deal between the video game company and MiLB).

MiLB players forfeit their right to be compensated for their likeness being used in a video game the minute they sign their standard Minor League Player Uniform Contract. Once they are added to the MLB roster, they are then paid for being in the video game, since MLB players are represented by the MLBPA.

Minor Leaguers Are In MLB The Show 20, No Pay Needed [Baseball America]

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  1. I'll be most interested in seeing which players below AA make the cut. hopefully this new interpretation will motivate Sony in to doubling the 90 man rosters.
    Caulfield
    I'll be most interested in seeing which players below AA make the cut. hopefully this new interpretation will motivate Sony in to doubling the 90 man rosters.

    Good point. And is the FA list will be filled with more licensed players or fakes !?
    What this means to me is this could have been added YEARS ago. Oh well. Glad it's in now.
    Makes you wonder if they just didn't know, or figured the OSFM team handled it and didnt want to put in all the work themselves. It is alot of work.
    So... I'm late to the party, but when Sony says "full minor league rosters" they DON'T mean they've added single A or rookie ball teams?
    They've just added real names (and scans and likeness in some cases) to the same truncated system they've had all along?
    Not judging, just asking.
    Roscosuper
    So... I'm late to the party, but when Sony says "full minor league rosters" they DON'T mean they've added single A or rookie ball teams?
    They've just added real names (and scans and likeness in some cases) to the same truncated system they've had all along?
    Not judging, just asking.

    Correct, hopefully this is just the start and in future games SDS will add high-A, rookie ball, etc.
    eric7064
    What this means to me is this could have been added YEARS ago. Oh well. Glad it's in now.
    Makes you wonder if they just didn't know, or figured the OSFM team handled it and didnt want to put in all the work themselves. It is alot of work.

    Probably the time involved in coding all the equipment, stance, attributes for those minor league players.
    I've wondered for some time why they didn't allow for the DD franchise creation suite to be included in franchise. Doesn't matter now. We have it and it's going to be great.
    eric7064
    What this means to me is this could have been added YEARS ago. Oh well. Glad it's in now.
    Makes you wonder if they just didn't know, or figured the OSFM team handled it and didnt want to put in all the work themselves. It is alot of work.

    They didn't put in the work this year either.
    Ridin's team did.
    They only put work into aspects of the game that net them a further profit. Pretty sure we've established this.
    Padgoi
    They didn't put in the work this year either.
    Ridin's team did.
    They only put work into aspects of the game that net them a further profit. Pretty sure we've established this.

    I didn't know Ridin's team did all the new audio and face scans....
    Padgoi
    They didn't put in the work this year either.
    Ridin's team did.
    They only put work into aspects of the game that net them a further profit. Pretty sure we've established this.
    It amazes me you still play this game with all the shade you throw at the dev team.
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    Bartolo Colon
    Correct, hopefully this is just the start and in future games SDS will add high-A, rookie ball, etc.

    I'd expect them to be waiting to do so until the PS5
    Padgoi
    They didn't put in the work this year either.
    Ridin's team did.
    They only put work into aspects of the game that net them a further profit. Pretty sure we've established this.

    So they paid someone who already had this done rather than spending money and taking resources away from the game to have someone else do it from scratch? I don't know, but that sounds like a good business plan to me.
    As a "Baseball Game Nomad", meaning I play a bit of every game play mode (Franchise, DD, RTTS, etc), I am happy that every year they put effort into areas that net them a greater profit because that means I get a new game every year and my cost doesn't go up. And having them include Ridin and his roster makes me excited for the future because it shows that this company is absolutely willing to do what is best for their game, even if it means buying already working programming and such, rather than just keeping everything in house. I mean the possibility that when the PS5 comes out, and this development team decides to change player models, that they may purchase these player models from a studio that has perfected it already and can implement it in game super fast has got me super excited!!
    speels
    So they paid someone who already had this done rather than spending money and taking resources away from the game to have someone else do it from scratch? I don't know, but that sounds like a good business plan to me.
    As a "Baseball Game Nomad", meaning I play a bit of every game play mode (Franchise, DD, RTTS, etc), I am happy that every year they put effort into areas that net them a greater profit because that means I get a new game every year and my cost doesn't go up. And having them include Ridin and his roster makes me excited for the future because it shows that this company is absolutely willing to do what is best for their game, even if it means buying already working programming and such, rather than just keeping everything in house. I mean the possibility that when the PS5 comes out, and this development team decides to change player models, that they may purchase these player models from a studio that has perfected it already and can implement it in game super fast has got me super excited!!

    Lmao wowwww. You sound like a Sony employee. "Just be happy they chose to create a game and not raise the price" lol This is the kind of attitude that leaves companies complacent and putting out a lackluster product because people who think in your vain , would still be honored to have the ability to purchase a game .
    Jeffrey Smith
    I’m not home to check but does 19’ have a futures game during the all star break. If not perhaps they’ll add it now.
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    Yes it does
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    I love how none of the posts are about the injustice of the minor league players not being paid for their likenesses and are instead all about complaints about the game or complaints about complaints. Sports fans sometimes are the worst. Can't see beyond their own tv screens. 
    HenryClay1844
    I love how none of the posts are about the injustice of the minor league players not being paid for their likenesses and are instead all about complaints about the game or complaints about complaints. Sports fans sometimes are the worst. Can't see beyond their own tv screens.*

    I struggle to consider anything an "injustice" when a person has a choice as to whether or not to sign a contract. Are minor leaguers underpaid (even after recent news of a salary bump) and underappreciated? Yes, absolutely! But sometimes you have to take that crummy, semi-exploitative job to get the experience you need for something way better in the future.
    Should they be compensated for their likenesses? That's a slippery slope because how do you do it for just a video game and not all the other stuff (like minor league teams using their likeness for promotions). How to you determine how much to pay them? Do you do it individually or make it a blanket compensation? If the latter, is it really fair to pay "Joe Blow" Quad-A slugger the same as "Hotshot Prospect A"? Once you determine that they should be compensated for their likenesses, you've now opened up layers upon layers of questions/issues.
    It's a tough topic....that's for darn sure.
    Honestly, they better not make a big stink out of this. I feel like with the NCAA athletes there's more of a controversy. Minor leaguers are still professionals... they get paid right?
    There's something fundamentally wrong with a person who gets paid to play baseball for a living complaining about anything.
    onegroove7
    Honestly, they better not make a big stink out of this. I feel like with the NCAA athletes there's more of a controversy. Minor leaguers are still professionals... they get paid right?
    There's something fundamentally wrong with a person who gets paid to play baseball for a living complaining about anything.

    Hard disagree. Everyone should be paid for their likeness in this type of scenario, and a good portion of these guys are not making a true living by playing baseball.
    goillini03
    Hard disagree. Everyone should be paid for their likeness, and most of these are not making a true living by playing baseball.
    I'd view a few years of minor league baseball as an internship with an opportunity, not a guarantee, at a major league career. a person shouldn't expect to be well-paid for minor league baseball anymore than they should working at McDonald's or Walmart. you use those jobs as stepping stones or stopgaps. should minor leaguers make at least 60,000 a year? probably. I got no problem with that. but they should have not a backup plan for when they most likely dont play MLB baseball but a front-plan for what they'll do to make a true living once their internship in minor league baseball is over and baseball isn't part of their future. if any player feels strongly enough about being in a video game w/o proper compensation, they should take a stand and not sign any contract giving away their rights to likeness. IMO
    onegroove7
    Honestly, they better not make a big stink out of this. I feel like with the NCAA athletes there's more of a controversy. Minor leaguers are still professionals... they get paid right?
    There's something fundamentally wrong with a person who gets paid to play baseball for a living complaining about anything.

    What is your understanding of what minor leaguers players get payed?
    To put it in perspective for you, a good majority of them play for what basically comes out to below the minimum wage when you account for the hours they put in.
    A majority of them have to find sponsor families to stay with or they split extremely small apartments 4 ways (or more).
    They get a small per diem for food when on the road.
    I could list many more but your example is ludicrous.
    Sadly, there is actually a better chance that the college athletes you are referring to get much more in kickback than minor league baseball players do.
    Informative. I typically get The Show within a week or two after release. The day this news became official I preordered. And now, after this piece, I'm even more excited as it's not just minor league names. In addition to their names and likeness some of their signature styles are captured as well. This is really cool to me since I have closely followed the murky likeness issue for close to a decade now. I'm happy to see that some sort of structure (I understand this only applies to minor leaguers as they sign their likeness away in their minor contracts) is in place for this sort of thing in sports gaming.
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    I wonder if prospects who are on the 40 man roster will have a player portrait? That would be pretty cool to see them on the big scoreboard or the presentation graphics with their pro gear on.
    In regard to why real minor leaguers can now be in the game, I remember back to Tony LaRussa baseball. One year they included real minor leaguers. It is my recollection that as a result they received a cease and desist letter from the MLBPA. They included fake minor leaguers in subsequent years. The contract with the MLBPA forbid using the real names of players not in the union.
    I suspect a similar provision was in the old contract with SDS, but is not in the new contract.
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    HenryClay1844
    I love how none of the posts are about the injustice of the minor league players not being paid for their likenesses and are instead all about complaints about the game or complaints about complaints. Sports fans sometimes are the worst. Can't see beyond their own tv screens.*

    None of these minor leaguers are being restricted from profiting off their likenesses. I'm sure Tebow has endorsements. If Nike wanted to give Wander Franco 100$ million to endorse shoes they could. Basically, the market for their likenesses isn't being capped. Let the free market do what it does and get out the way.
    A year ago Zion Williamson could not make a dime off his likeness, all the while Duke was charging 2 to 4 grand for tickets (which I think is fine, let the market do what it does...) to the North Carolina game. Zion Williamson's Jordan shoe deal is 75$ million dollars, his rookie contract is about 45$ million over 4 years.
    From what I understand, once these guys get called up to the Show they will be paid like the standard MLB player for their likenesses in game. It looks like a win for all involved to me. The minor leaguers win because the vast majority wont make it to the Show anyway, it must be cool tell family and friends to check you out in the new baseball game. You dont have to download anything from the vault, grab the game and check out my team, there I am! Gamers win because we get to start our franchises sooner with the actual players which makes for a more authentic experience. The Show wins because if a guy is called up and he's on fire they can market him in game and DD.
    I love how none of the posts are about the injustice of the minor league players not being paid for their likenesses and are instead all about complaints about the game or complaints about complaints. Sports fans sometimes are the worst. Can't see beyond their own tv screens.*
    mmkay... maybe they should go on strike and see how far that gets them...or...they probably dont feel as strongly about this as you and are fine with new arrangement.

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