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Madden NFL 20 Gameplay Changes: Encouraging, But We've Been Here Before

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Madden NFL 20 Gameplay Changes: Encouraging, But We've Been Here Before

With all of the cool new stuff we appear to be getting this year in Madden NFL 20, Like QB1, a re-commitment to franchise mode, and kinda-sorta, college football coming back, will it even be worth it with Madden’s current state of gameplay? Most people would admit the gameplay in Madden 19 leaves a lot to be desired. It’s not terrible, but it just isn’t all there. It’s just simply average at best in most people’s opinions.

Well not to worry, says Creative Director Mike Young. He says that instead of squashing bugs at the end of the cycle, they have been doing it the whole year. He said the game has been playable much earlier than it ever has been before. He even teased a new gameplay feature that is under wraps that they are trying to get into the final build. As to what it could be, Young told Matthew Kato of Game Informer it “actually became a new way to maybe play.” That sounds pretty exciting. Anything making the game feel new and fresh is always welcome.

As far as how much improvement we will see in gameplay this year, Mike Young had this to say: “There is probably going to be a laundry list of things the community would get excited about…I think we did a lot with animations. It’s a cleaner and a more bug-free game.” I think if this is true, and we get a game that is much less buggy, we could be in for the best gameplay we’ve ever seen in a Madden game. But extraordinary claims call for extraordinary results. So we will have to wait until we see it for ourselves.

Superstar-X

There is also the new Superstar X-Factor feature. This sounds like it could be a huge deal when it comes to realism. Individual elite skills never really seem to matter. It pretty much feels no different when facing Tom Brady or Mike Glennon. If this actually makes superstar players feel like superstar players, it might be hard to put the controller down this year.

Welcome to the RPO

One of the best new additions to this year’s iteration of the game that we have heard about so far is the debut of the run-pass option. This should add a whole new dynamic to offensive gameplay. But let’s hope they were able to make the AI defense be able to stop it and the plays don’t become money.

Final Analysis

These are all some big words that we should all take with just the smallest pinch of salt for now. We all know it comes down to seeing the game itself in action. Even with that said, it’s hard not to be a little excited at this point. It feels like the team at EA Tiburon is pretty confident this year. They are making it sound like Madden NFL 20 will be a totally new experience from past Madden games. As always, we should be cautiously optimistic, but my interest is certainly piqued.

Let us know what new feature excites you the most. And are you jumping on the hype train, or waiting at the station for now?

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  1. roadman
    Good read, similar to my hot takes in my signature.

    My favorite has to be the banana in the tailpipe lol gets me every time. As your friend, can we discuss working on changing that avatar? :) (Guy on the left to be exact)
    You really have to look no further than their reveal trailer to see that it's "The same old Madden". I mean this is suppose to be the 2020 version of Madden and the crowd still looks like they're from Tecmo Bowl and we can't get more than a few sparse cardboard cutout players on the sideline? Bottom line is, EA will never change. They're too worried about maximizing profits to actually make a decent game. Their business practices have set gaming back at least 10 years. We deserve better than this in freaking 2020.
    jbrock11
    You really have to look no further than their reveal trailer to see that it's "The same old Madden". I mean this is suppose to be the 2020 version of Madden and the crowd still looks like they're from Tecmo Bowl and we can't get more than a few sparse cardboard cutout players on the sideline? Bottom line is, EA will never change. They're too worried about maximizing profits to actually make a decent game. Their business practices have set gaming back at least 10 years. We deserve better than this in freaking 2020.

    Tbh, I care less if they had 40,000 raggity Ann's in the crowd, work on getting everything else on point.
    DaReal Milticket
    Tbh, I care less if they had 40,000 raggity Ann's in the crowd, work on getting everything else is on point.

    That just furthers my point really. Madden has set the bar so low that fans are basically just begging them to get core aspects of a sports game right. There is something wrong when they are one of the biggest gaming companies yet consistently make some of the worst games out there. There's no excuse for why a developer like OOTP can provide a better sports simulation than a billion dollar company like EA.
    jbrock11
    That just furthers my point really. Madden has set the bar so low that fans are basically just begging them to get core aspects of a sports game right. There is something wrong when they are one of the biggest gaming companies yet consistently make some of the worst games out there. There's no excuse for why a developer like OOTP can provide a better sports simulation than a billion dollar company like EA.

    That's any sports game, it's nice but at the end of the day it's just fluff. And I'm not begging them to get anything right, I'm telling them what I would like them to do. I think there on the right track already. My point is that fluff isn't important to me, just a waste of resources. They have way bigger fish to fry than worrying about the sidelines & crowds. Very low on the list of priorities.
    I would have to see fixes to players salary, and contracts, see what team won the SB the following season, see what team a player played on the following season. I would need to see huge fixes to trading, scouting, drafting. I need to see you can extend a players contract before the last year. See good players hit FA or become available for trade. All this before I would get excited for anything.
    Sorry EA Marketing team. I play the game and you can put as much make up as you want on that not attractive person.  I know whats under that make up and it aint pretty.
    DaReal Milticket
    That's any sports game, it's nice but at the end of the day it's just fluff. And I'm not begging them to get anything right, I'm telling them what I would like them to do. I think there on the right track already. My point is that fluff isn't important to me, just a waste of resources. They have way bigger fish to fry than worrying about the sidelines & crowds. Very low on the list of priorities.

    My point is, we're 30 years into the franchise and 6 years into this gen, they should have nailed down most of the core aspects of the game by this point so they could worry about things like crowd and better production. But we're still having to talk about fixing a broken franchise mode that is literally the core of any sports game. There's just no excuse for it.
    jbrock11
    That just furthers my point really. Madden has set the bar so low that fans are basically just begging them to get core aspects of a sports game right. There is something wrong when they are one of the biggest gaming companies yet consistently make some of the worst games out there. There's no excuse for why a developer like OOTP can provide a better sports simulation than a billion dollar company like EA.

    Sad, but all true man.
    The fact that EA is promoting having the Pro Bowl as playable with the correct team's helmets just furthers this point. As a Product Designer at a major retailer who works with engineers daily, that is beyond embarrassing.
    jbrock11
    My point is, we're 30 years into the franchise and 6 years into this gen, they should have nailed down most of the core aspects of the game by this point so they could worry about things like crowd and better production. But we're still having to talk about fixing a broken franchise mode that is literally the core of any sports game. There's just no excuse for it.

    Agree to disagree, I don't think franchise is broken at all. Personally, its just right for me. I don't have the time or interest staring at menus. It always can be improved on just like anything else in life. It's a constant cycle of complaints that will never stop. Some ppl won't even play the game because they can't see past stats, others won't play the game because there's not 40 different jerseys in the stands. Should the sidelines look better, sure but that's not going to do anything to fix franchise or gameplay. Can't please everyone at the end of the day. You basically proved my point. EA makes a list of priorities that's important to them & what think it's going to make them a profit. Game is what it is at this point, if it's not for you it's not for you and you move on.
    Just another year with more talk.  What’s needed is a physics-based engine built from the ground up.  And a more robust AI.  Not more “animations.”  Animations at the core are the problem with the game.  It’s the same old underwhelming Madden.
    DaReal Milticket
    That's any sports game, it's nice but at the end of the day it's just fluff. And I'm not begging them to get anything right, I'm telling them what I would like them to do. I think there on the right track already. My point is that fluff isn't important to me, just a waste of resources. They have way bigger fish to fry than worrying about the sidelines & crowds. Very low on the list of priorities.

    I have to agree with you on that. I don’t care if the sidelines look alive, if a certain player have on the right type of cleats he wears. If I get good smooth gameplay, and a couple of fun offseason things to do I am happy. A lot of people get caught up in the fluff and window dressing. No video game sports or otherwise will be a prefect extract replica of their real life counterparts.
    I absolutely don't care about the crowd of thousands sucking up resources. I don't get why anyone else cares either but to each their own.
    That slices both ways, though, I do care if there isn't a heavy load of resources going through game play.
    I'd rather the bulk of resources going into gameplay or cfm vs how the crowd or tv crew looks like.
    For all I care, they can wear shorts on the sidelines in cold weather.
    I'm not holding my breath anymore. I think I've learned the difference between a fun game and a good game, and honestly, Madden falls into the "fun" category for me. I'm tired of being cynical but when you haven't been satisfied with the last five years of production, it's hard to be anything but.
    Kudos to those who buy it and have fun this year. I'm gonna pass.
    I'm with the last few posters on the little presentation elements. I would rather them focus on continuing to tighten up the core gameplay and franchise mode before any nuances like the sidelines. If they had gameplay at a point like I believe MLB the show is where it has a very solid foundation and only needs a few minor tweaks my opinion would be different. If that were the case then I would love to see them focus on all of the little details.
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    Good to see animations mentioned as that's half my issue with Madden; available animations through '19 don't allow for realistic movement or player interaction. We'll see.
    But until I hear them at least claim to have rebuilt the AI "from the ground up", this game will still be far behind.
    BezO
    Good to see animations mentioned as that's half my issue with Madden; available animations through '19 don't allow for realistic movement or player interaction. We'll see.
    But until I hear them at least claim to have rebuilt the AI "from the ground up", this game will still be far behind.

    I'm definitely looking for more animations to transition a lot smother in 20. 19 has been iffy at times & gringe worthy (I'm looking at you QB that cant find the back of the center while lining up).
    JayCutlersCig
    I'm not holding my breath anymore. I think I've learned the difference between a fun game and a good game, and honestly, Madden falls into the "fun" category for me. I'm tired of being cynical but when you haven't been satisfied with the last five years of production, it's hard to be anything but.
    Kudos to those who buy it and have fun this year. I'm gonna pass.

    Maybe I am messing your point but if it’s a fun game wouldn’t that make it a good game? I call Madden a good game because I have fun with it. It’s not without it flaws of course. But it is what it is, a fun football game that is made for a wide variety of players and football fans.
    The Black Redneck
    Maybe I am messing your point but if it’s a fun game wouldn’t that make it a good game? I call Madden a good game because I have fun with it. It’s not without it flaws of course. But it is what it is, a fun football game that is made for a wide variety of players and football fans.
    Madden is a fun game, imo, because its the only football game i can play n i love football. A good game is a game with extreme focus on details, core gameplay, great depth and is true to the fantasy they are trying to portray...mainly non sports games these days. I cannot say that because i have fun trying to win a game with bad gameplay its a good game. Its trash but i have fun because im forced to either find enjoyment or stop purchasing and find another game or sport.
    I stay content with where we are because I realize the people in charge dont care about real life football aspects not working properly in game. Its like rap music nowadays....before the depth of the lyrics/story mattered and the passion in the vocals. Now its whateva rhymes and has a good beat can sell huge and thats what matters. Who cares when trash makes more money, thats EA and almost every other business these days.
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    No matter how many animations they put in the game, the fact that the outcomes are dice rolls based on ratings and difficulty (and not physics and the respective football technique and contextual intelligence of each player), there will always be wonky and awkward transitions.  I don’t get how some of you wish for them to perpetuate this system that’s so clearly flawed.  Yes, more animations and more realistic movement can be beneficial, but not if the foundation is bad
    Agent89
    No matter how many animations they put in the game, the fact that the outcomes are dice rolls based on ratings and difficulty (and not physics and the respective football technique and contextual intelligence of each player), there will always be wonky and awkward transitions. *I don’t get how some of you wish for them to perpetuate this system that’s so clearly flawed. *Yes, more animations and more realistic movement can be beneficial, but not if the foundation is bad

    Dice rolls are required to prevent totally predictable ( ie completely repeatable ) gameplay
    Football technique , physics , contextual A.I. and any other nice sounding sound bite " buzz words " cant alone replicate the element of chance that a game requires in order for it to be a true representation of football or anything else in real life
    In real life players drop passes they should catch , miss tackles and blocks that they usually make etc. Combining ratings and a dice roll mechanic is the only way a game can represent this
    Without the variety of outcomes brought about by such a mechanic play becomes entirely predictable ( and repeatable) and the game just becomes a question of which player has the better memory or crib sheet
    I'd be first to call for better implementation of physics , better player A.I , more numerous and more appropriate animation selection etc but they alone can't replace dice rolls if you want a realistic and replayable game, without them the game would have the same replay value as a crossword puzzle
    We will see if it does anything. Maybe get ratings and/or sliders to actually matter? I had to make my chise team 48 overall just to get some form of thrill. Instead of having low rating Olineman, like 50 overall, I had to drop all of them down to 12 overall with 0 in pass/run block, 0 in speed/acc and 0 in awr just to get pressure on me in All-Madden. I got sack like 70 times that season and had like 7 td's to 33 int. 9 or so fumbles. I loved it though. That's what I want from this game if I have sliders at 0 and ratings mattered.
    See this is the problem though. I should not have to do all of that if ratings/sliders worked like they are suppose too. If I put 0 in sliders and have a 60 overall lineman, I should be getting pressure every time I drop back to pass. Nope doesn't happen. So the second part of that problem is Chise mode itself. It feels like you don't really need to draft to need because you can get away with having 60 overall lineman and still run and pass like you have 90 overall lineman. So what is the point of caring about drafting first overall or high draft pick when you can get away with drafting guys in round 5+?
    Doing all that I did made drafting fun for me because I had such low end guys and had a bad record. However, the minute I start getting avg. or below avg guys on O and D it will get easy again. I want to have a some what good to great team to be able to beat the cpu. Not some bum team I can win with because ratings don't matter and sliders don't work..............
    burter
    We will see if it does anything. Maybe get ratings and/or sliders to actually matter? I had to make my chise team 48 overall just to get some form of thrill. Instead of having low rating Olineman, like 50 overall, I had to drop all of them down to 12 overall with 0 in pass/run block, 0 in speed/acc and 0 in awr just to get pressure on me in All-Madden. I got sack like 70 times that season and had like 7 td's to 33 int. 9 or so fumbles. I loved it though. That's what I want from this game if I have sliders at 0 and ratings mattered.
    See this is the problem though. I should not have to do all of that if ratings/sliders worked like they are suppose too. If I put 0 in sliders and have a 60 overall lineman, I should be getting pressure every time I drop back to pass. Nope doesn't happen. So the second part of that problem is Chise mode itself. It feels like you don't really need to draft to need because you can get away with having 60 overall lineman and still run and pass like you have 90 overall lineman. So what is the point of caring about drafting first overall or high draft pick when you can get away with drafting guys in round 5+?
    Doing all that I did made drafting fun for me because I had such low end guys and had a bad record. However, the minute I start getting avg. or below avg guys on O and D it will get easy again. I want to have a some what good to great team to be able to beat the cpu. Not some bum team I can win with because ratings don't matter and sliders don't work..............

    I've sworn that for years there is a hidden rubberbanding or fairplay in effect with this. I've been playing NCAA 14 and taking a 70~ overall team into Tuscaloosa is just a guaranteed L unless absolutely everything goes right and even then that's just to have a chance. I never have that feeling in Madden. Even if you want to say "Any Given Sunday" that still doesn't quite explain it. Every team just feels equal within about 1-3 degrees in a way I feel they shouldn't, whereas in NCAA if you have a weak spot and the other team is equipped to exploit it you will feel it all game
    Haze88
    I've sworn that for years there is a hidden rubberbanding or fairplay in effect with this. I've been playing NCAA 14 and taking a 70~ overall team into Tuscaloosa is just a guaranteed L unless absolutely everything goes right and even then that's just to have a chance. I never have that feeling in Madden. Even if you want to say "Any Given Sunday" that still doesn't quite explain it. Every team just feels equal within about 1-3 degrees in a way I feel they shouldn't, whereas in NCAA if you have a weak spot and the other team is equipped to exploit it you will feel it all game

    I'd say that's more a product of the greater skill gaps present in college as opposed to pro football than any difference in the two games programming
    briz1046
    I'd say that's more a product of the greater skill gaps present in college as opposed to pro football than any difference in the two games programming

    As fair as that is, the ratings gaps are still the same. A 72 OVR team just doesn't feel as different from a 91 OVR team as much as it does in NCAA and both are EA Games after all. Like I feel I could play Arizona and New England similarly enough with maybe a couple extra drops here and there and maybe a few more missed blocks per game, whereas in NCAA using a team like Akron vs Michigan is a complete night and day experience even if you are playing an equal teams let alone one you massively outclass/massively outclasses you
    Haze88
    As fair as that is, the ratings gaps are still the same. A 72 OVR team just doesn't feel as different from a 91 OVR team as much as it does in NCAA and both are EA Games after all. Like I feel I could play Arizona and New England similarly enough with maybe a couple extra drops here and there and maybe a few more missed blocks per game, whereas in NCAA using a team like Akron vs Michigan is a complete night and day experience even if you are playing an equal teams let alone one you massively outclass/massively outclasses you

    I would definitely imagine that they employ a different ratings strategy in NCAA titles, whereby a ratings point difference reflects greater into gameplay , to reflect the greater skill gap , without having players rated in single digits .
    I was more referring to NFL parity being more responsible for tight games than any imagined "rubberband" programming hidden in maddens coding
    I think as long as anyone expects a near-perfect "simulation" of NFL football from this game, they will ALWAYS be left wanting. I was guilty of this for years myself. I'd obsess over the little things the game just could NOT get right. Football just has too many moving "pieces" and possible scenarios on EVERY play to get everything even close to correct all the time. Now as long as the animations are fluid, the graphics are great and the franchise mode is shown SOME effort from EA, I will be happy. M20 at least sounds like its moving toward that. I look forward to seeing how it is all coming together over the next 4 months leading up to the release. I love football, so I always purchase at some point, usually used. The best thing that could happen for us Madden gamers is for EA to LOSE the exclusivity contract and have to EARN our money.
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    TurboTitan
    The best thing that could happen for us Madden gamers is for EA to LOSE the exclusivity contract and have to EARN our money.
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    You had me up to that point.
    The latest interview from Rex mentioned the high start-up cost of not only the exclusive contract, but high cost of operation from the beginning.
    Plus, Madden and the NFL have had a bonding business relationship for quite awhile. A lot of people have been talking with their wallets for 13 years, but we are still at the same point.
    My national past time, coming to this forum and read all the comments of the optimist. I'm just going to call you guys "Bill Murrays" because y'all are in an never ending loop of Ground Hog day. Talking about you don't care about crowds in 2019 LMAO. And oh yes, just like Jesse Jackson "keep hope alive".
    roadman
    You had me up to that point.
    The latest interview from Rex mentioned the high start-up cost of not only the exclusive contract, but high cost of operation from the beginning.
    Plus, Madden and the NFL have had a bonding business relationship for quite awhile. A lot of people have been talking with their wallets for 13 years, but we are still at the same point.
    Yea, I think our best hope for another football title would be for a smaller developer to make an unlicensed game. To do well though it would need a full blown editor where you can change every aspect to replicate whatever league you wanted.
    That or if or when all of this NCAA stuff clears up someone could decide to bring back a licensed NCAA title. Unfortunately if that scenario were to happen I still think EA sports would be our best chance of getting a decent game. At least while it is flawed they already have an engine in place for a football game. I know a lot of people would love for 2k to get back in to the football game but after they dropped their MLB title they don't seem to have an interest in making any sports titles other than the NBA and WWE. Unless their was a scenario similar to the golf club which 2K sports picked up where an independent studio developed a good basis for a football game and they pick them up.
    As much as I don't like it because I'm tired of EA and Madden, they are probably our best chance at a decent football title right now. All we can do is hope they come through with Madden 20.
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    Shosum13
    Yea, I think our best hope for another football title would be for a smaller developer to make an unlicensed game. To do well though it would need a full blown editor where you can change every aspect to replicate whatever league you wanted.
    That or if or when all of this NCAA stuff clears up someone could decide to bring back a licensed NCAA title. Unfortunately if that scenario were to happen I still think EA sports would be our best chance of getting a decent game. At least while it is flawed they already have an engine in place for a football game. I know a lot of people would love for 2k to get back in to the football game but after they dropped their MLB title they don't seem to have an interest in making any sports titles other than the NBA and WWE. Unless their was a scenario similar to the golf club which 2K sports picked up where an independent studio developed a good basis for a football game and they pick them up.
    As much as I don't like it because I'm tired of EA and Madden, they are probably our best chance at a decent football title right now. All we can do is hope they come through with Madden 20.
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    Even if an unlicensed game was great quality, I still doubt it would last just because unlicensed games don't sell well. Casual gamers want to see the brand and actual players without going through downloading the perfect roster. The only positive is that the social media era helps it be easier to promote games. If a game with NFL legends couldn't make it to year 2, I could imagine it being hard for a regular unlicensed game.
    I would love to see a return of NCAA. I'm even trying to get NCAA 14 again without paying too much. But NCAA games don't traditionally sell well. There's a reason NCAA Basketball games stopped before the likeness issues took off. I can see it eventually returning but mainly for them wanting more revenue
    illwill10
    Even if an unlicensed game was great quality, I still doubt it would last just because unlicensed games don't sell well. Casual gamers want to see the brand and actual players without going through downloading the perfect roster. The only positive is that the social media era helps it be easier to promote games. If a game with NFL legends couldn't make it to year 2, I could imagine it being hard for a regular unlicensed game.
    I would love to see a return of NCAA. I'm even trying to get NCAA 14 again without paying too much. But NCAA games don't traditionally sell well. There's a reason NCAA Basketball games stopped before the likeness issues took off. I can see it eventually returning but mainly for them wanting more revenue

    EA's college football game sold really well. It didn't stop being sold for any reason to do with lack of sales, I fact it did so well that EA tried to license individual schools and keep it going but ultimately weren't able to get enough on board to make it worthwhile.
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    ODogg
    EA's college football game sold really well. It didn't stop being sold for any reason to do with lack of sales, I fact it did so well that EA tried to license individual schools and keep it going but ultimately weren't able to get enough on board to make it worthwhile.
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    I agree. My stance was with all collegiate games as a whole. NCAA Football was an exception. At the time, I'm certain many felt NCAA was a better product versus Madden. I think they had more creative freedom than Madden. I just wished they would have made it too NCAA 15. I guess some schools don't want to be involved until the player compensation issues are resolved.
    PerfectD4rk
    I would have to see fixes to players salary, and contracts, see what team won the SB the following season, see what team a player played on the following season. I would need to see huge fixes to trading, scouting, drafting. I need to see you can extend a players contract before the last year. See good players hit FA or become available for trade. All this before I would get excited for anything.
    Sorry EA Marketing team. I play the game and you can put as much make up as you want on that not attractive person.* I know whats under that make up and it aint pretty.
    I stand by this..Its this that is needed in a big way to make it through any seasons going forward...
    illwill10
    I agree. My stance was with all collegiate games as a whole. NCAA Football was an exception. At the time, I'm certain many felt NCAA was a better product versus Madden. I think they had more creative freedom than Madden. I just wished they would have made it too NCAA 15. I guess some schools don't want to be involved until the player compensation issues are resolved.
    Yea most NCAA titles did not fare very well at all. That is probably why we had not had an NCAA Basketball title for sometime even before the lawsuits. They would of course get a nice bump in sales around march madness time but as a whole didn't sell nearly as well as their football counterpart. I would think that even though it never saw the light of day they were probably well underway with the development of NCAA 15 when they couldn't secure the licenses to enough schools or conferences to make it worth it which led to them pulling the plug.
    It sucks 15 would of had the college football playoff. I probably would have never sold it if we had a version with the playoff in it and would still probably be playing it regualarly to this day. I still do eventually want to track down a used copy of NCAA 14 and start playing it again.
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    Shosum13
    Yea most NCAA titles did not fare very well at all. That is probably why we had not had an NCAA Basketball title for sometime even before the lawsuits. They would of course get a nice bump in sales around march madness time but as a whole didn't sell nearly as well as their football counterpart. I would think that even though it never saw the light of day they were probably well underway with the development of NCAA 15 when they couldn't secure the licenses to enough schools or conferences to make it worth it which led to them pulling the plug.
    It sucks 15 would of had the college football playoff. I probably would have never sold it if we had a version with the playoff in it and would still probably be playing it regualarly to this day. I still do eventually want to track down a used copy of NCAA 14 and start playing it again.
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    I do believe EA wanted to NCAA 15. But at that time, a lot of teams did not want to take that risk. This year shows more teams are coming back around. But I don't see a new NCAA game anytime soon.
    I'm in same boat. I want to get NCAA 14, but prices are ridiculous. I even saw NCAA Basketball 10 for around $30+. Crazy when you can get Madden games for under 20
    Put a tutorial in explaining these match coverage I can'ttell you how many times I been beaten because cvr4 covr6 etc breakdown into man coverage leaving folks open it's infuriating.
    illwill10
    I do believe EA wanted to NCAA 15. But at that time, a lot of teams did not want to take that risk. This year shows more teams are coming back around. But I don't see a new NCAA game anytime soon.
    I'm in same boat. I want to get NCAA 14, but prices are ridiculous. I even saw NCAA Basketball 10 for around $30+. Crazy when you can get Madden games for under 20
    The irony is that NCAA 14 is 10x better than any Madden games after it.
    Shosum13
    Yea most NCAA titles did not fare very well at all. That is probably why we had not had an NCAA Basketball title for sometime even before the lawsuits. They would of course get a nice bump in sales around march madness time but as a whole didn't sell nearly as well as their football counterpart. I would think that even though it never saw the light of day they were probably well underway with the development of NCAA 15 when they couldn't secure the licenses to enough schools or conferences to make it worth it which led to them pulling the plug.
    It sucks 15 would of had the college football playoff. I probably would have never sold it if we had a version with the playoff in it and would still probably be playing it regualarly to this day. I still do eventually want to track down a used copy of NCAA 14 and start playing it again.
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    I still got my copy of NCAA 14 but no PS3 and doubt I will buy another one. If I don’t get another PS3 you can have my copy.
    John_2400
    Put a tutorial in explaining these match coverage I can't tell you how many times I been beaten because cvr4 covr6 etc breakdown into man coverage leaving folks open it's infuriating.

    At one point, I found cover 4 quarters and palms to be working somewhat correctly. However, due to certain offensive schemes designed to beat this coverage, patches made to correct this caused me to step away from cover 4 for the most part.
    Before patches, I experienced DB's properly matching to attacking vertical threats. After patches, I found DB's hyper-reacting to perceived vertical routes and man matching too quickly, to the extent of jumping short dig and drag routes. This forced another DB who was out of position to try to cover wheel routes or deep outside receiver on switch concepts.
    Cover 3 Match and Tampa 2 are the only zones I've found to play reasonably well, although base aligning these coverages against certain formations is necessary. Cover 3 Sky is also effective in certain situations for me.
    I honestly haven't heard much that I suspect won't go wrong as far as game play changes except for pass trajectory which is addressed in PC mods now. I stopped falling for the hype about 3 or 4 Madden's ago and only get it once it's $15 or $20 after the Superbowl if I do get it. They are going to have to rebuild this game from the ground up. The foundation of this game is so unstable and built on poor animation mechanics and there's not much that can be significantly improved until it's all basically uprooted.
    Now, some realistic additions to Franchise and Presentation might get me to buy the game earlier maybe. But it doesn't sound like they added a lot of actual Franchise depth to the game even though they laid out their key changes. Most of them are more game play related and they sound like things that are going to end up needing to be heavily patched to balance the game out in time.
    edgevoice
    At one point, I found cover 4 quarters and palms to be working somewhat correctly. However, due to certain offensive schemes designed to beat this coverage, patches made to correct this caused me to step away from cover 4 for the most part.
    Before patches, I experienced DB's properly matching to attacking vertical threats. After patches, I found DB's hyper-reacting to perceived vertical routes and man matching too quickly, to the extent of jumping short dig and drag routes. This forced another DB who was out of position to try to cover wheel routes or deep outside receiver on switch concepts.
    Cover 3 Match and Tampa 2 are the only zones I've found to play reasonably well, although base aligning these coverages against certain formations is necessary. Cover 3 Sky is also effective in certain situations for me.

    Yea I don't know what happened to zone coverages after these last couple of patches. I thought for the most part they did a much better job this year with zone. After the last couple of patches though I've had some really head scratching moments using zone coverage. Hopefully they get some of this sorted out for 20.
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    I'll just leave this one right here, when you even have an NFL player calling out madden for struggling to get some of the fundamentals:
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    IMO a Tweet like that from an NFL player is way more influential as ammunition to take to the brass than 1000 tweets or videos from us mere paying customers.
    jfsolo
    IMO a Tweet like that from an NFL player is way more influential as ammunition to take to the brass than 1000 tweets or videos from us mere paying customers.

    An NFL players Tweet is in the same boat as any other gamer buying the game.
    This is what moves the decision makers period!!!
    khaliib
    An NFL players Tweet is in the same boat as any other gamer buying the game.
    This is what moves the decision makers period!!!

    Annnnnnnnnd that's why Fifa Career Mode has less features than it did 3 years ago and why Madden Franchise Mode continually gets minimal support. If the goal is to make money (and it is) and they're making tons of it (which they are) then it wouldn't be smart to change philosophies, even if that means putting out a product that isn't nearly as good as their available resources could make it.
    It would be great to live in a world where their goal was to make the best product possible, but when a decent product gets them crazy money and they don't have to spend as much to make it it's understandable why they do things the way that they do. Frustrating... but understandable.
    I feel sorry for EA gamers, they are getting ripped off every year and they actually pay for it to be sodomized. Fifa refuses to offer any type of connected franchise mode and madden is the same game every year i swear there us no difference to me so i didnt buy the last version and i wont jump on the hype train. If every gamer had my approach we would have EA with its back against the wall in NO TIME !
    They are abusing our commitment and addiction but they should offer us something respectable period !
    No launch day buys for me no more EA sports till you start respecting the consumers a bit
    Moroccan_Boy
    I feel sorry for EA gamers, they are getting ripped off every year and they actually pay for it to be sodomized. Fifa refuses to offer any type of connected franchise mode and madden is the same game every year i swear there us no difference to me so i didnt buy the last version and i wont jump on the hype train. If every gamer had my approach we would have EA with its back against the wall in NO TIME !
    They are abusing our commitment and addiction but they should offer us something respectable period !
    No launch day buys for me no more EA sports till you start respecting the consumers a bit
    This is exactly why I will only be buying EA sports titles used from now on, that's if I even buy them at all. I'm not in to soccer so I wont be playing any FIFA and barring any crazy overhaul to franchise I will just be rolling with NHL 19 for a few years. The only one I still might get semi regularly is Madden and that's just because I'm a huge NFL fan. Even with Madden though I will be waiting until used copies surface because I refuse to let any more of my money go to EA and would rather it go to gamestop or wherever I find it used at.
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