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NBA 2K18 Roster Update Details, Badges Adjusted Across The League (12-5)
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Mike Stauffer (@2KStauff) has sent us the NBA 2K18 roster update details for today.
In today’s update most of the players in the league saw an adjustment to their attributes, badges were adjusted across the league as well.
Below is a list of players whose OVR changed as a result of the adjustments.
- LeBron James: 98 OVR (+1)
- James Harden: 96 OVR (+1)
- Kyrie Irving: 93 OVR (+3)
- DeMarcus Cousins: 91 OVR (-2)
- Chris Paul: 90 OVR (-1)
- Karl-Anthony Towns: 89 OVR (-1)
- LaMarcus Aldridge: 89 OVR (+2)
- Joel Embiid: 88 OVR (+2)
- Paul George: 88 OVR (-2)
- Kevin Love: 88 OVR (+1)
- Al Horford: 87 OVR (+1)
- Blake Griffin: 86 OVR (-1)
- Marc Gasol: 86 OVR (-1)
- Victor Oladipo: 86 OVR (+2)
- Kyle Lowry: 85 OVR (+2)
- C.J. McCollum: 85 OVR (-1)
- Clint Capela: 85 OVR (+1)
- Aaron Gordon: 84 OVR (+2)
- Andrew Wiggins: 83 OVR (-2)
- Carmelo Anthony: 83 OVR (-2)
- Kris Middleton: 83 OVR (+2)
- Tyreke Evans: 83 OVR (+1)
- Avery Bradley: 83 OVR (-1)
- Goran Dragic: 83 OVR (-2)
- Enes Kanter: 83 OVR (+1)
- Reggie Jackson: 82 OVR (+1)
- Dennis Schroder: 82 OVR (+1)
- Eric Bledsoe: 82 OVR (-1)
- Myles Turner: 82 OVR (-2)
- Pau Gasol: 82 OVR (+1)
- Harrison Barnes: 81 OVR (-1)
- Evan Fournier: 81 OVR (-2)
- Eric Gordon: 81 OVR (-2)
- Jayson Tatum: 81 OVR (+1)
- Brook Lopez: 80 OVR (-1)
- Robert Covington: 80 OVR (-1)
- Derrick Favors: 80 OVR (+4)
- Jaylen Brown: 80 OVR (+2)
- Donovan Mitchell: 80 OVR (+2)
- Dwyane Wade: 79 OVR (+2)
- Jonas Valanciunas: 79 OVR (-1)
- Jeff Green: 79 OVR (+2)
- Zach Randolph: 79 OVR (+1)
- Nicolas Batum: 78 OVR (-1)
- Serge Ibaka: 78 OVR (-2)
- Buddy Hield: 78 OVR (+1)
- Dion Waiters: 78 OVR (-2)
- James Johnson: 78 OVR (-1)
- Malcolm Brogdon: 78 OVR (-2)
- Brandon Ingram: 78 OVR (+1)
- John Collins: 78 OVR (+1)
- Kenneth Faried: 78 OVR (+3)
- Spencer Dinwiddie: 78 OVR (+2)
- Kyle Kuzma: 78 OVR (+1)
- Kyle Korver: 78 OVR (+1)
- Marcus Morris: 78 OVR (+1)
- Kentavious Caldwell-Pope: 77 OVR (+1)
- Alex Len: 77 OVR (+1)
- Boban Bogdanovic: 77 OVR (+1)
- Courtney Lee: 77 OVR (+2)
- Thabo Sefolosha: 77 OVR (+1)
- Jrue Holiday: 77 OVR (-1)
- Kyle O’Quinn: 77 OVR (+2)
- Jae Crowder: 76 OVR (-1)
- Frank Kaminsky: 76 OVR (-1)
- JaMychal Green: 76 OVR (+1)
- Markieff Morris: 76 OVR (-1)
- Marvin Williams: 76 OVR (+1)
- Lauri Markkanen: 76 OVR (-1)
- D.J. Augustin: 76 OVR (+1)
- Zaza Pachulia: 76 OVR (+2)
- Shabazz Napier: 76 OVR (+3)
- Jonas Jerebko: 76 OVR (+2)
- Kyle Anderson: 76 OVR (+1)
- Lance Stephenson: 76 OVR (+3)
- Montrezl Harrell: 76 OVR (+2)
- Wayne Ellington: 76 OVR (+2)
- Jordan Bell: 75 OVR (+2)
- De’Aaron Fox: 75 OVR (-2)
- Willy Hernangomez: 75 OVR (-2)
- George Hill: 75 OVR (-2)
- Lonzo Ball: 75 OVR (-2)
- Jerami Grant: 75 OVR (+1)
- Bogdan Bogdanovic: 75 OVR (-1)
- Richaun Holmes: 75 OVR (-1)
- Alec Burks: 75 OVR (+2)
- Kris Dunn: 75 OVR (+2)
- Skal Labissiere: 75 OVR (-2)
- John Henson: 75 OVR (+1)
- Tyler Zeller: 75 OVR (+2)
- Josh Jackson: 74 OVR (-1)
- Justin Holiday: 74 OVR (+1)
- Timofey Mozgov: 74 OVR (-1)
- Frank Ntilikina: 74 OVR (-1)
- Noah Vonleh: 74 OVR (+3)
- Channing Frye: 74 OVR (+1)
- Omri Casspi: 74 OVR (+1)
- OG Anunoby: 74 OVR (+2)
- Daniel Theis: 74 OVR (+2)
- Luke Babbitt: 74 OVR (+2)
- Pat Connaughton: 74 OVR (+2)
- Evan Turner: 73 OVR (-1)
- Joe Harris: 73 OVR (+1)
- Tomas Satoransky: 72 OVR (+2)
- Justin Jackson: 72 OVR (-2)
- Raul Neto: 72 OVR (+1)
- Isaiah Whitehead: 71 OVR (-2)
- Fred VanVleet: 71 OVR (+2)
- Ian Mahinmi: 71 OVR (-1)
- Wesley Johnson: 71 OVR (+1)
- Sindarius Thornwell: 71 OVR (+3)
- Dakari Johnson: 71 OVR (+2)
- Maxi Kleber: 71 OVR (+3)
- Antonio Blakeney: 69 OVR (+2)
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Kyrie is finally getting what he needs defense.
And Mitchell is up to 80... I wonder if his shooting got any boost.
One player I never thought should of gone down was Z-Bo.
Ball went down again.
Even Kat got a drop. I'm sure his defense is where it should be now.
I can't wait to see under the hood.
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I think it might be to keep him respectable overall wise. Not that I agree. Just the way I see it.
Embid got a boost. I sure it's his post up game and jumper. Dude's been tearing it up.
Interested to see specifically what attributes increased.
LMA at 89 is a bit of a shock but he's having an incredible year.
Glad to see the following guys get some much deserved love:
Oladipo, Gordon, Brown, Donovan and Dinwiddie
Well done, 2k.
Does anyone know, because I'm not sure, if these updates adjust anything other than ratings. I'm thinking tendencies (player, coach, team) and various animation packages (jump shots, layups/dunks, dribbling). Or would those areas be handled in another type of update.
Post attributes for players remain untouched (Myles Turner & Towns).
I’d love to see those post attributes, Strength and defense attributes adjusted across the board for everyone whether a particular player needs adjusted up or down in those categories.
Lastly, BADGES need to be revised league wide!
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this would make it much easier to update existing ratings in my league
You don't that's what everyone is wanting a spreadsheet to tell
Saric only 1. lol
J. Brown Overall 80. Tatum deserves more than 3 Badges.
They need to update Hot Zones ASAP. Best roster update since launch.
Jojo is an 88 already? Guy is going to be a 99 by the end of the season if he stays healthy, and as a KU fan that makes me happy. :appl:
Jojo is an 88 already? Guy is going to be a 99 by the end of the season if he stays healthy, and as a KU fan that makes me happy. :appl:
I think after the next 40 point game. He'll be over a 90.
Saric only 1. lol
J. Brown Overall 80. Tatum deserves more than 3 Badges.
They need to update Hot Zones ASAP. Best roster update since launch.
That's awesome!!
Dewayne Dedmon - Criminally underrated
Steven Adams - Criminally underrated
Jamal Murray - Criminally underrated
Will Barton - Criminally underrated
Jojo is an 88 already? Guy is going to be a 99 by the end of the season if he stays healthy, and as a KU fan that makes me happy. :appl:
Robert Covington is a Gold Defensive Stopper now.
Markannen now have 1 Badge Catch &Shoot SILVER
Capela has a GOLD Lob Finisher now
Tatum before(until yesterday) was 1 Badge and now 3!
Oladipo had 15 and now 18 Badges.
D. Sabonis had 0 and now 2 (Putback King GOLD and Brick Wall BRONZE)
Durant from 27 to 28 Badges.
Thompson from 15 to 14 Badges.
D.Green from 20 to 22 Badges.
J.Bell now have a Bronze Lob City Finisher and Overall 75(+2).
J. Brown from Celtics had 0 and now 8 Badges!
Baynes had 4 and now 5 Badges.
M.Morris had 4 and now 5 Badges.
T.Rozier had 1 and now 2 Badges.
Porzingis from 8 to 20 Badges!!!
N.Jokic from 10 to 18 Badges (Flashy Pass GOLD)!
A. Gordon had 4 and now 7 Badges.
B, Beal had 8 and now 12 Badges.
O.Porter had 6 and now 9 Badges.
T.J.Warren had 4 and now 8 Badges.
Lakers Fans, Kuzma has now 1 Badge Tear Dropper GOLD.
Dude, this update is da best!!! Celtics Fans now can be happy, massive update changes.
Remember I am doing a comparison between oficial updated yesterday i saved and new roster update today.
Good to know Bed still working hard to improve this game.:appl::nchuck:
J Brown 8 Badges and Overall 80(+2) (edited, now is ok)
Microwave - Equipped
Relentless Finisher = Bronze
Corner Speacialist(Thank you GOD) = Gold
Catch and Shoot = Bronze
Defensive Stopper = Bronze
Pick Pocket= Bronze
Posterizer = Silver
One Man Fast Breaker = Silver
Lowry was 83 overall and now 85.
He had 22 badges and now 24.
Still underrated? lol
KAT no longer has defensive stopper, hustle rebounder, and rim protector
KAT lost this 3 but Bed gave him some Badges. KAT had 16 Badges and now 15.
KAT no longer has defensive stopper, hustle rebounder, and rim protector
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Yep, it dont make much sense. I havent look to see what they downgraded on Myles, but if its not his post ratings, and tendencies, then they screwed up once again. His post ratings, and post tendencies along with his rebounding needed decreased, but his shot blocking ratings should have gotten a slight boost, as thats about the only positive thing Myles does, other than his smooth mid range jumper, and he has a descent shot from 3.
I had hoped we would see Myles Turner make progress on his Defense and post game this season, but thats not happened yet anyway. He is still young, and I do think he will eventually improve in those areas, along with rebounding, but he has got to get much stronger.
TBH, Sabonis is the better all around C at this point in time, and should probably the the one starting or atleast getting the majority of minutes. Right now, they play about the same amount of minutes, as Turner I think is around 28 per game, and Sabonis is around 25, roughly.
There is no Patch Notes from Badge since was created.
We only know this update was a HUGE Badge updated for all teams and some Hot Zones changes for a few players.
Tatum before(until yesterday) was 1 Badge and now 4!
J. Brown from Celtics had 0 and now 10 Badges!
Porzingis from 8 to 20 Badges!!!
Dude, this update is da best!!! Celtics Fans now can be happy, massive update changes.
Remember I am doing a comparison between oficial updated yesterday i saved and new roster update today.
Good to know Bed still working hard to improve this game.:appl::nchuck:
J Brown 10 Badges
Microwave - Equipped
Relentless Finisher = Bronze
Corner Speacialist(Thank you GOD) = Gold
Deep Range Deadeye = Bronze
Dificult Shots = Bronze
Catch and Shoot = Bronze
Defensive Stopper = Bronze
Pick Pocket= Bronze
Posterizer = Silver
One Man Fast Breaker = Silver
Huge update.
Makes me sad I literally just started a new MyLeague over the weekend lol
Guess I'll have to start a new one yet again.
(crickets chirping)
I had hoped we would see Myles Turner make progress on his Defense and post game this season, but thats not happened yet anyway. He is still young, and I do think he will eventually improve in those areas, along with rebounding, but he has got to get much stronger.
TBH, Sabonis is the better all around C at this point in time, and should probably the the one starting or atleast getting the majority of minutes. Right now, they play about the same amount of minutes, as Turner I think is around 28 per game, and Sabonis is around 25, roughly.
to be honest i think the Pacers need to develop Turner more. they need to run the offense more through him. right now only Thing He does is Setting screens and standing around on the weakside waiting to Shoot if someone Passes to him. how can He get better if the Team is Not looking to involve him more into the offense?
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Capela has a GOLD Lob Finisher now. He had 4 Badges and now 7.
Laid Back = Equipped
Putback King = GOLD
Pick & Roller = GOLD
Rim Protector = SILVER
Posterizer = BRONZE
Hustle Rebounder = GOLD
We only know this update was a HUGE Badge updated for all teams and some Hot Zones changes for a few players.
Thanks for all the updates. I can't wait to see the Celtics now.
I do wonder why they took KAT rebounding badge away. Again I thought only his defense was the problem people were having.
He's averaging 11.6 rpg and has to be around 20th in the league in TRB% with 19.4% ??
Low key hyped to go home and see what badges Simmons has and to confirm RoCo has Defensive Stopper GOLD (about damn time for RoCo)
He's averaging 11.6 rpg and has to be around 20th in the league in TRB% with 19.4% ??
Low key hyped to go home and see what badges Simmons has and to confirm RoCo has Defensive Stopper GOLD (about damn time for RoCo)
Hustle Rebounder i saw now is GOLD!!!
surprised Kawhi has been touched considering he hasnt played a game this season
A few of the changes:
Porzingis 95 shot 95 touch
Ben Simmons 70 Shot/95 touch
Donovan Mitchell 70 shot 80 touch
Oladipo 80 shot /85 touch
Should lead to more accurate sim stats for these players as far as PPG goes.
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Philadelphia 76ers
Ben Simmons - *Position Change to PG/PF
Robert Covington - *Position Change to SF/PF
J.J. Redick - *Position Change to SG/SF
Jahlil Okafor - *Position Change to C/None
Justin Anderson - *Position Change to SF/PF
Timothe Luwawu -*Position change to SF/SG
Markelle Fultz - * Position change to SG/PG
Jerryd Bayless - * Position change to SG/PG
Milwaukee Bucks
Tony Snell - Position change to SG/SF
Khris Middleton - Position change to SF/SG
Cleveland Cavaliers
Channing Frye - * Position change to C/None
Cedi Osman - * Position change to SF/SG
Dwyane Wade - * Position change to PG/SG
Jeff Green - * Position change to PF/SF
Boston Celtics
Marcus Morris - *Position Change to PF/SF
Guerschon Yabusele - *Position Change to C/PF
Memphis Grizzlies
Chandler Parsons - * Position change to PF/SF
Miami Heat
James Johnson - * Position change to PF/C
Justise Winslow - * Position change to PF/SF
Rodney McGruder - * Position change to SF/SG
Charlotte Hornets
Malik Monk - * Position Change to SG/PG
Nicolas Batum - *Position Change to SG/SF
Treveon Graham - *Position Change to SF/SG
New York Knicks
Ron Baker - * Position Change to PG/SG
Orlando Magic
Evan Fournier - * Position change to SF/SG
Terrence Ross - * Position change to SG/SF
Mario Hezonja - * Position change to SF/SG
Jonathan Isaac - * Position change to PF/SF
Dallas Mavericks
Devin Harris - *Position Change to SG/PG
Dirk Nowitzki - *Position Change to C/PF
Brooklyn Nets
Rondae Hollis Jefferson - * Position change to PF/SF
Quincy Acy- * Position change to C/PF
Caris LeVert - * Position change to SF/SG
New Orleans Pelicans
Jrue Holiday - * Position Change to SG/PG
Chieck Diallo - * Position Change to PF/C
Detroit Pistons
Eric Moreland - * Position change to C/None
Houston Rockets
Chinanu Onuaku - *Position Change to C/None
Nene - *Position Change to C/None
Phoenix Suns
Alan Williams - * Position Change to C/None
Oklahoma City Thunder
Carmelo Anthony - *Position change to PF/SF
Terrance Ferguson - *Position Change to SG/SF
Golden State Warriors
Kevon Looney - * Position Change to C/PF
David West - * Position Change to C/None
Nick Young - * Position change to SG/SF
Patrick McCaw - SG/PG
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Bumping again in hopes that the Roster team is able to make these changes in an update soon
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Oladipo still needs a speed/speed with ball upgrade and a big upgrade in his defensive stats. He's averaging almost 2 steals and over a block per game
A few of the changes:
Porzingis 95 shot 95 touch
Ben Simmons 70 Shot/95 touch
Donovan Mitchell 70 shot 80 touch
Oladipo 80 shot /85 touch
Should lead to more accurate sim stats for these players as far as PPG goes.
For Simmons how will this improve his sim stats ? For me his assist are to low with only 4 per game
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I do think they could involve him more than they do on offense, but until he is willing to work on his post game, there isnt much they can do, he isnt someone who is going to be coming off screens and shooting, outside of pickn roll/ pop, and throwing lobs to him, there isnt much more they can do, until he becomes a threat in the post. Oddly enough, I think he has more of a post game, than he shows, and while it something he needs to work on, I think it more of him not being comfortable doing it, he is a little on the soft side, so until he get stronger and is willing to bang down low, they are limited on what they can do with him.
Celtics have five 80 rated players now.
Kyrie
Horford
Tatum
Brown
Smart
Awesome!
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Volevo chiederti quali cambiamenti sostanziosi sono stati fatti al roster visto che hai intenzione di ricominciare il tuo myleague
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Ciao Napoli, praticamente sono stati rivisti ratings, badges ed anche delle tendenze su tocco e tiro di alcuni giocatori
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STARTERS
70/C Miles Plumlee
74/PF Ersan Ilyasova (11.1 PER)
75/SF Taurean Prince (11.2 PER)
77/SG Kent Bazemore (13.8 PER)
82/PG Dennis Schroder (19.3 PER)
BENCH
77/SG Marco Belinelli (15.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF Luke Babbitt (13.3 PER)
72/PG Malcolm Delaney (8.2 PER)
72/PG Isaiah Taylor (11.9 PER)
65/PF Tyler Cavanaugh (13.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SG DeAndre Bembry (6.4 PER)
67/PG Josh Magette
67/SG Tyler Dorsey
RESERVE
68/SF Nicolas Brussino
78/C John Collins (20.4 PER) - ETA December
77/C DeWayne Dedmon (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA January
73/C Mike Muscala (10.7 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Belinelli is logging career highs in scoring (12 PPG), assists (15.4 AST%), and steals (2.2 STL%).
2. Dedmon boasts a 66 TS% due to extremely efficient perimeter shooting for a center. He is hitting 48% of his threes and that’s his worst percentage from ANYWHERE. He’s 75% at the rim and an absurd 54% from 3-23 feet)
3. Cavanaugh (61 TS%, 35 3PT%, 14 AST%) is obviously better than G-League caliber.
STARTERS
87/C Al Horford (20.2 PER)
78/PF Marcus Morris (15.9 PER)
81/SF Jayson Tatum (17.4 PER)
80/SG Jaylen Brown (14.0 PER)
93/PG Kyrie Irving (25.1 PER)
BENCH
80/SG Marcus Smart (10.5 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PG Terry Rozier (13.5 PER)
76/C Aron Baynes (13.8 PER)
70/PF Semi Ojeleye (5.6 PER)
74/C Daniel Theis (14.9 PER)
71/PG Shane Larkin (5.2 PER)
68/SF Abdel Nader
70/C Guerschon Yabusele
RESERVE
67/SG Jabari Bird
68/SG Kadeem Allen
88/SF Gordon Hayward (OUT FOR SEASON)
TEAM NOTES
1. Smart's dismal shooting (44 TS%, 32 FG%) murks Boston's offensive rating.
They are looking pretty clean overall
STARTERS
75/C Tyler Zeller (16.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
79/PF Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF DeMarre Carroll (15.8 PER) - UNDERRRATED
74/SG Allen Crabbe (12.4 PER)
78/PG Spencer Dinwiddie (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF Caris LeVert (11.1 PER)
73/SG Joe Harris (13.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Trevor Booker (15.5 PER)
71/PF Quincy Acy (7.0 PER)
74/C Timofey Mozgov (11.7 PER) - OVERRATED
72/C Jarrett Allen (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/SG Sean Kilpatrick (5.4 PER)
71/PG Isaiah Whitehead
RESERVE
68/PF Jacob Wiley
66/PG Yakuba Ouattara
81/PG D'Angelo Russell (19.5 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
78/PG Jeremy Lin - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. The Nets don’t have any active 80+ rated players, yet they are 4-6 without D’Angelo Russell, compared to 4-8 with him. One can easily make a case for Dinwiddie, Jefferson, and Carroll to hit that status, what with all the lobbying fans made for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. If Marcus Smart played for the Nets he would be their highest rated player and that is simply not an accurate assessment.
2. Mozgov is too turnover prone to really hack it as a starter, and both Zeller and Allen have passed him on the depth chart.
3. Harris (41 3pt%) has outperformed LaVert (28 3pt%) throughout the year due to the disparity between their outside shots.
STARTERS
80/C Dwight Howard (17.1 PER)
76/PF Marvin Williams (14.2 PER)
75/SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (12.8 PER)
78/SG Nicolas Batum (11.2 PER) - OVERRATED
87/PG Kemba Walker (22.2 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Jeremy Lamb (18.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/PF Frank Kaminsky (13.0 PER) - OVERRATED
69/SF Dwayne Bacon (5.2 PER)
73/SG Malik Monk (8.6 PER)
77/C Cody Zeller (15.7 PER)
69/SF Treveon Graham (8.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/PG Michael Carter-Williams (10.3 PER)
68/PF Johnny O'Bryant
RESERVE
70/SG Julyan Stone
67/PG Marcus Paige
65/C Mangok Mathiang
TEAM NOTES
1. Charlotte’s offense has fallen apart since Batum (37 FG%, 21 3PT%) returned to the lineup, without any measurable improvement to their defense. This hopefully means more minutes will go Jeremy Lamb’s way.
2. Kaminsky hasn't developed since entering the league, and there really isn't reason for him to be rated equal to Marvin Williams, who has started for the team for four years now. Marvin is hitting 46% of his threes while Kaminsky has maintained 33-34% the duration of his 3-year career.
STARTERS
78/C Robin Lopez (15.4 PER)
76/PF Lauri Markkanen (14.1 PER)
75/SF Denzel Valentine (11.5 PER)
74/SG Justin Holiday (12.2 PER)
75/PG Kris Dunn (12.8 PER)
BENCH
74/PG Jerian Grant (14.5 PER)
71/SF Paul Zipser (3.5 PER) - OVERRATED
71/C Cristiano Felicio (10.2 PER)
78/PF Bobby Portis (18.6 PER)
74/SG David Nwaba (14.8 PER)
69/SG Antonio Blackeney (8.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/SF Quincy Pondexter (5.8 PER) - OVERRATED
69/PG Kay Felder (4.0 PER)
RESERVE
67/PG Ryan Arcidiacono
76/PF Nikola Mirotic - ETA December
80/SG Zach LaVine - ETA December
71/PG Cameron Payne - ETA January
TEAM NOTES
1. Zipser's career line: 6.0 PER, 46 TS% on 15 USG%. Simply not an NBA-caliber offensive player.
2. Pondexter is healthy for the first time in 3 years and that predictably means he isn't an NBA player anymore.
STARTERS
88/C Kevin Love (24.7 PER)
98/PF LeBron James (31.3 PER)
76/SF Jae Crowder (9.3 PER) - OVERRATED
75/SG J.R. Smith (8.0 PER)
71/PG Jose Calderon (6.3 PER)
BENCH
79/PG Dwyane Wade (18.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SG Kyle Korver (15.4 PER)
79/PF Jeff Green (17.0 PER)
74/C Channing Frye (12.4 PER)
71/SF Cedi Osman
71/C Ante Zizic
67/SG John Holland
66/PG London Perrantes
RESERVE
77/PG Derrick Rose (11.9 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
76/C Tristan Thompson (10.2 PER) - ETA December
89/PG Isaiah Thomas - ETA January
73/PG Iman Shumpert (7.0 PER) - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. The last time LeBron (career high 2.6 BLK%) could be considered a PF was next to Shane Battier in Miami (who has a similar makeup to Crowder). LeBron has a 66 TS% right now - during the "PF years" in Miami he had 64 and 65 TS%.
2. Rumors of Wade’s demise were quite overstated. He has fully adapted to a sixth-man role - something his forebears Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were never willing to do, to the detriment of their teams.
3. Crowder has completely fallen apart. His shooting has taken a nose-dive (33 3pt%, from 39% last year) and he is rebounding like a SG (career low 9.9 DRB%) instead of a PF (career best 17.3% last season)
4. The Cavaliers are 11-1 since Rose left the team (a 4-point loss to the Rockets their lone defeat). It’s not a coincidence.
STARTERS
88/C Andre Drummond (22.7 PER)
82/PF Tobias Harris (18.9 PER)
74/SF Stanley Johnson (7.6 PER)
83/SG Avery Bradley (11.8 PER) - OVERRATED
82/PG Reggie Jackson (20.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
76/PG Ish Smith (16.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Anthony Tolliver (12.8 PER)
76/SG Langston Galloway (13.5 PER)
71/SG Luke Kennard (10.8 PER)
67/C Eric Moreland (9.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/SF Reggie Bullock (6.6 PER)
71/C Henry Ellenson
74/C Boban Marjanovic
RESERVE
65/SG Luis Montero
65/PG Dwight Buycks
74/PF Jon Leuer (8.8 PER) - ETA January
TEAM NOTES
1. Jackson’s resurgence is directly responsible for the Pistons improved fortunes, posting a career high 59 TS%.
2. Bradley is measurably worse than last season with a sharp increase in turnovers and the dissipation of his fluke rebounding.
3. Ish Smith is shooting 49% from the field, which is pretty unheard of for a guy who shot 39% from 2011 to 2015.
4. Moreland has proven to be an NBA-caliber rebounder and shot blocker, and is ahead of Marjanovic and Ellenson on the depth chart. In other words, he’s not a G-Leaguer.
STARTERS
82/C Myles Turner (17.0 PER) - OVERRATED
78/PF Thaddeus Young (15.3 PER)
77/SF Bojan Bogdanovic (14.8 PER)
86/SG Victor Oladipo (22.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/PG Darren Collison (17.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
75/PG Cory Joseph (12.1 PER)
78/C Domantas Sabonis (18.7 PER)
76/SF Lance Stephenson (12.2 PER)
71/PF T.J. Leaf (10.5 PER)
76/C Al Jefferson (21.6 PER)
68/SF Damien Wilkins
72/PG Joe Young
68/SF Alex Poythress
RESERVE
68/C Ike Anikbogu
74/SG Glenn Robinson - ETA February
68/SG Edmond Sumner - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Last season Oladipo (13.6 PER) looked like he was never going to develop. Now he's an All-Star and the Pacers top player. Career high 59 TS% on 30 USG%, marked improvement as a shooter (44 3pt%, well up from last year's career high 36%), and hard-nosed defense (career-high 2.7 STL% and 2.9 BLK%).
2. Turner is 21 years old and 2K anointed him a little quickly. He's leading the league in BLK% but isn't nearly the offensive player they think he is. He is not a post player you can run the offense through.
3. Career best production for Collison right now, thanks to his 4.3 A/T ratio.
STARTERS
87/C Hassan Whiteside (25.6 PER)
74/PF Justise Winslow (10.8 PER)
74/SF Josh Richardson (7.2 PER)
78/SG Dion Waiters (10.3 PER) - OVERRATED
83/PG Goran Dragic (17.0 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
74/PG Tyler Johnson (10.1 PER)
78/PF James Johnson (15.2 PER)
77/C Kelly Olynyk (16.4 PER)
76/SG Wayne Ellington (14.2 PER)
72/C Bam Adebayo (17.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SF Okaro White
72/PF Jordan Mickey
66/PG Derrick Walton
RESERVE
70/C Udonis Haslem
68/C A.J. Hammons
65/SG Matt Williams
74/SG Rodney McGruder - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Dragic has gradually gotten worse at finishing as he’s gotten older. He’s down to 60% at the rim compared to 70% only a few years ago.
2. I'm still perplexed Waiters was able to trick a team into giving him a big contract. This guy is an offense killer. 48 TS% on 27 USG% is right in line with the rest of his career.
3. Bam has been adequate when starting for Whiteside.
STARTERS
75/C John Henson (14.3 PER)
95/PF Giannis Antetokounmpo (31.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
83/SF Khris Middleton (16.6 PER)
75/SG Tony Snell (11.0 PER)
82/PG Eric Bledsoe (18.6 PER)
BENCH
78/SG Malcolm Brogdon (14.1 PER)
73/C Thon Maker (8.7 PER)
71/SF DeAndre Liggins (5.0 PER)
73/PG Matthew Dellavedova (7.7 PER)
70/PG Jason Terry (5.8 PER)
71/SG Rashad Vaughn
69/PG Gary Payton
71/PF D.J Wilson
RESERVE
69/PF Joel Bolomboy
68/SG Sterling Brown
76/PF Mirza Teletovic (14.1 PER) - ETA December
81/PF Jabari Parker - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. Not a ton to say about Giannis that isn't already evident. He's shooting 78% at the rim which is on par with prime LeBron. 30/10/4 at PF is Karl Malone territory. He leads the league in PER and is 23 years old.
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STARTERS
83/C Enes Kanter (25.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
91/PF Kristaps Porzingis (24.5 PER) - OVERRATED
79/SF Tim Hardaway Jr (15.3 PER)
77/SG Courtney Lee (15.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PG Jarrett Jack (9.8 PER)
BENCH
73/SF Doug McDermott (10.5 PER)
74/PG Frank Ntilikina (6.1 PER) - OVERRATED
76/C Kyle O'Quinn (18.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PF Lance Thomas (6.5 PER)
73/PF Michael Beasley (12.2 PER)
75/C Willy Hernangomez (16.8 PER)
72/PG Ramon Sessions (7.6 PER)
69/SG Damyean Dotson (9.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
RESERVE
69/SG Ron Baker
74/C Joakim Noah
66/PF Isaiah Hicks
65/C Luke Kornet
TEAM NOTES
1. Porzingis has tailed off a bit since his hot start. He’s shooting only 39% over his last 8 games played.
2. Kanter leads the league in ORB%, ranks 9th in PER (2nd among centers), and 6th in TS%. He averages 14/11 in only 26 MPG. His defense has been much improved, ranking 13th among centers in DRPM (42nd last season).
3. O'Quinn has been underrated for three years now, and his play is the only reason Kanter hasn’t been getting 30 MPG. Rebounding, rim protection, and passing skills are the reasons he's legitimately ahead of Hernangomez on the depth chart.
4. Ntilikina is a good young defender but he's simply not an NBA player on the offensive end and probably won't be for awhile. He’s a terrible shooter and extremely turnover prone.
5. Career-best shooting for Lee: 61 TS% and 45 3PT%
STARTERS
82/C Nikola Vucevic (19.8 PER)
84/PF Aaron Gordon (20.3 PER)
78/SF Jonathan Simmons (13.5 PER)
81/SG Evan Fournier (16.9 PER)
77/PG Elfrid Payton (17.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
73/C Bismack Biyombo (10.3 PER)
76/PG D.J. Augustin (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PG Shelvin Mack (12.6 PER)
76/C Marreese Speights (14.8 PER)
73/SF Mario Hezonja (8.0 PER)
72/SG Arron Afflalo (2.8 PER) - OVERRATED
69/SF Wesley Iwundu
69/C Khem Birch
RESERVE
67/SF Jamel Artis
73/SF Terrence Ross (10.4 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
71/PF Adreian Payne - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Payton has had quite the turnaround, averaging 14-5-7 on 57% shooting over his last 8 games. He averaged 8-3-6 on 43% over his first 8.
2. Augustin is shooting a career-high 51% from the field (48 3PT%). He is a 40% shooter for his career.
3. The fall of Afflalo from borderline 2014 All-Star in Orlando to 3rd stringer in his return four years later is now complete.
STARTERS
88/C Joel Embiid (23.5 PER)
77/PF Dario Saric (12.2 PER)
80/SF Robert Covington (14.9 PER)
78/SG J.J. Redick (13.7 PER)
84/PG Ben Simmons (19.8 PER)
BENCH
75/PG T.J. McConnell (13.9 PER)
73/SG Jerryd Bayless (8.8 PER)
72/SF Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot (9.2 PER)
75/C Amir Johnson (15.3 PER)
75/C Richuan Holmes (14.9 PER)
73/SG Nik Stauskas
70/SG Furkan Korkmaz
69/PF James Michael McAdoo
RESERVE
67/PG Jacob Pullen
73/SF Justin Anderson (9.7 PER) - ETA December
77/PG Markelle Fultz - ETA December
73/C Jahlil Okafor - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. The impossible happened. I'm finally content with a team's OVR ratings.
STARTERS
79/C Jonas Valanciunas (18.1 PER)
78/PF Serge Ibaka (14.2 PER)
89/SF DeMar DeRozan (21.8 PER) - OVERRATED
74/SG Norman Powell (12.3 PER)
85/PG Kyle Lowry (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
75/PF Pascal Siakam (14.7 PER)
74/SF OG Anunoby (13.1 PER)
71/PG Fred VanVleet (14.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/SG C.J. Miles (15.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/C Jakob Poetl (21.2 PER)
73/C Lucas Nogueira (17.0 PER)
67/SG Lorenzo Brown
68/SF Alfonzo McKinnie
RESERVE
67/SF Bruno Caboclo
67/SF Malcolm Miller
72/SG Delon Wright (14.9 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Lowry is averaging 20-8-8 on 50% shooting (48 3pt%) over his last 10 games.
2. Wright is the team's sixth man (bench leading 21 mpg). He has been underrated by 2K for three years, given his career 15.7 PER over that stretch.
3. CJ is shooting 41% from three his last two seasons but he also has a career high 2.0 BLK% to his credit. Bench gunners usually don't double as solid defenders.
4. Poetl is recording 68 TS% and 5.2 BLK% which is a marked improvement from last season (59 TS%, 2.8 BLK%)
5. VanVleet is playing the best basketball of his career. Over his last 5 games he’s averaging 11 points and 6 assists (49 FG%) in only 22 MPG.
STARTERS
78/C Marcin Gortat (15.0 PER)
76/PF Markieff Morris (10.8 PER) - OVERRATED
84/SF Otto Porter (19.2 PER)
88/SG Bradley Beal (19.8 PER) - OVERRATED
73/PG Tim Frazier (10.9 PER)
BENCH
75/SF Kelly Oubre (13.6 PER)
73/SG Jodie Meeks (11.6 PER)
73/PF Mike Scott (13.1 PER)
71/C Ian Mahinmi (7.9 PER)
72/PG Tomas Satoransky (16.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/C Jason Smith
69/PF Chris McCullough
RESERVE
66/PF Michael Young
67/SF Devin Robinson
90/PG John Wall (21.9 PER) - ETA December
68/SG Sheldon Mac - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Beal just exploded for 51 points against Portland but he also combined for 50 points (49 shots) over the four games that came prior. Not exactly elevating his game with the real star out of the lineup.
2. Morris is probably never going back to the player he was with Phoenix four years ago. and has been losing time to Oubre.
3. Satoransky has played very well in Wall’s absense, and it would not surprise to see him pass Frazier in the rotation when Wall returns.
STARTERS
87/C Al Horford (20.2 PER)
78/PF Marcus Morris (15.9 PER)
81/SF Jayson Tatum (17.4 PER)
80/SG Jaylen Brown (14.0 PER)
93/PG Kyrie Irving (25.1 PER)
BENCH
80/SG Marcus Smart (10.5 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PG Terry Rozier (13.5 PER)
76/C Aron Baynes (13.8 PER)
70/PF Semi Ojeleye (5.6 PER)
74/C Daniel Theis (14.9 PER)
71/PG Shane Larkin (5.2 PER)
68/SF Abdel Nader
70/C Guerschon Yabusele
RESERVE
67/SG Jabari Bird
68/SG Kadeem Allen
88/SF Gordon Hayward (OUT FOR SEASON)
TEAM NOTES
1. Smart's dismal shooting (44 TS%, 32 FG%) murks Boston's offensive rating.
They are looking pretty clean overall
I think Smart seems overrated because of his defense. His shooting ratings are below any guard in the league right now. All his med range ratings are in the 50's. His open 3 point though is in the low 70's. But
STARTERS
75/C Tyler Zeller (16.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
79/PF Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF DeMarre Carroll (15.8 PER) - UNDERRRATED
74/SG Allen Crabbe (12.4 PER)
78/PG Spencer Dinwiddie (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF Caris LeVert (11.1 PER)
73/SG Joe Harris (13.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Trevor Booker (15.5 PER)
71/PF Quincy Acy (7.0 PER)
74/C Timofey Mozgov (11.7 PER) - OVERRATED
72/C Jarrett Allen (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/SG Sean Kilpatrick (5.4 PER)
71/PG Isaiah Whitehead
RESERVE
68/PF Jacob Wiley
66/PG Yakuba Ouattara
81/PG D'Angelo Russell (19.5 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
78/PG Jeremy Lin - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. The Nets don’t have any active 80+ rated players, yet they are 4-6 without D’Angelo Russell, compared to 4-8 with him. One can easily make a case for Dinwiddie, Jefferson, and Carroll to hit that status, what with all the lobbying fans made for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. If Marcus Smart played for the Nets he would be their highest rated player and that is simply not an accurate assessment.
2. Mozgov is too turnover prone to really hack it as a starter, and both Zeller and Allen have passed him on the depth chart.
3. Harris (41 3pt%) has outperformed LaVert (28 3pt%) throughout the year due to the disparity between their outside shots.
I thought for sure Spencer would of got the bump to 80. He's been playing really well this season.
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I don't think he heard you lol.
He had 22 badges and now 24.
Still underrated? lol
KAT lost this 3 but Bed gave him some Badges. KAT had 16 Badges and now 15.
all they did was bump up his shooting to where it was at launch. there are still other areas that need to be raised.
STARTERS
76/C Dirk Nowitzki (15.6 PER)
71/PF Maxi Kleber (11.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
81/SF Harrison Barnes (15.5 PER)
76/SG Wesley Matthews (10.1 PER)
77/PG Dennis Smith (11.6 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
74/PG Yogi Ferrell (9.7 PER)
77/PG JJ Barea (18.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
72/PF Dwight Powell (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/SG Devin Harris (15.9 PER)
76/C Salah Mejri (19.7 PER)
76/C Nerlens Noel (15.7 PER)
73/C Jeff Withey
66/SG Antonius Cleveland
RESERVE
67/PF Jonathan Motley
72/SF Dorian Finney-Smith - OUT INDEFINITELY
77/PG Seth Curry - OUT INDEFINITELY
69/PF Josh McRoberts - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Maxi Kleber has helped turn the Mavericks season around. They are 5-4 since Kleber entered the starting lineup (compared to 2-13 otherwise). Not a great talent by any stretch, but he’s an NBA player and knows his role.
2. Barea is 5th in the NBA with 43 AST%, and has continued his strong production from last season. He’s one of the league’s better sixth men.
3. Only 20 years old, Dennis Smith still has a ways to go. 47 TS% on 29 USG% is miserable efficiency for a shoot-first guard (compare to 55 TS% on 27 USG% for Barea).
4. Powell has put together some strong games of late. Over his last five he’s averaging 11/6 on 71% shooting in only 20 MPG.
STARTERS
88/C Joel Embiid (23.5 PER)
77/PF Dario Saric (12.2 PER)
80/SF Robert Covington (14.9 PER)
78/SG J.J. Redick (13.7 PER)
84/PG Ben Simmons (19.8 PER)
BENCH
75/PG T.J. McConnell (13.9 PER)
73/SG Jerryd Bayless (8.8 PER)
72/SF Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot (9.2 PER)
75/C Amir Johnson (15.3 PER)
75/C Richuan Holmes (14.9 PER)
73/SG Nik Stauskas
70/SG Furkan Korkmaz
69/PF James Michael McAdoo
RESERVE
67/PG Jacob Pullen
73/SF Justin Anderson (9.7 PER) - ETA December
77/PG Markelle Fultz - ETA December
73/C Jahlil Okafor - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. The impossible happened. I'm finally content with a team's OVR ratings.
As an incredibly biased 76ers fan, I'm actually good with these ratings now too - especially since the badges updated.
RoCo with the defensive was much needed
Simmons has legitimate badges
Embiid's post badges are exceptional
2k did an incredible job updating badges / ratings for the 76ers to this point in the season.
how are they ranked 14th overall in offense with teams like the hornets/heat ahead of them? is it cause they're in canada? i dont get why half the roster is underrated and why lowry is a 85.
STARTERS
89/C Nikola Jokic (24.8 PER)
78/PF Kenneth Faried (19.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/SF Wilson Chandler (9.5 PER) - OVERRATED
79/SG Gary Harris (15.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/PG Jamal Murray (14.0 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Will Barton (17.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PG Emmanuel Mudiay (12.0 PER)
77/C Mason Plumlee (15.0 PER)
73/SG Malik Beasley (9.9 PER)
74/PF Trey Lyles (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF Juan Hernangomez (9.7 PER)
74/SF Richard Jefferson
72/PF Darrell Arthur
RESERVE
67/SF Torrey Craig
69/PF Tyler Lydon
68/PG Monte Morris
85/PF Paul Millsap (17.7 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA March
TEAM NOTES
1. 2K gave Millsap the benefit of the doubt, but his production is in line with last season.
2011-2016: 20.4 PER, 56 TS%, 8.0 ORB%, 20.5 DRB%
2017-2018: 17.8 PER, 54 TS%, 5.3 ORB%, 19.2 DRB%
2. Faried is still the same energy/rebound machine he’s always been. 60 TS%, 14 ORB%, he doesn’t need plays run for him in order to produce.
3. Chandler is posting career lows in rebounds and steals. 51 TS% on 14 USG% ain’t cutting it either.
4. Lyles has been producing since Millsap got sidelined. He can play, but Denver simply has a roster crunch.
how are they ranked 14th overall in offense with teams like the hornets/heat ahead of them? is it cause they're in canada? i dont get why half the roster is underrated and why lowry is a 85.
Better watch it, or you will be called a conspiracy nut, making a comment like that,lol, just joking with ya.
TBH, thru the years, the team ratings and rankings, has always seem wonky. So Im not sure they are actually correct, in terms of how teams play. Wasnt it last yr with how bad the Cavs were defensively, yet 2k's ranking had their defense rated as one of the best.
I havent looked at the actual player ratings, for the Raptor players, to see if they are way off or not. I dont know if this is correct or not, but I heard someone say Coach ratings, influence those rankings as well. Not sure if thats actually the case or not.
STARTERS
76/C Zaza Pachulia (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
88/PF Draymond Green (16.6 PER) - OVERRATED
96/SF Kevin Durant (23.2 PER) - OVERRATED
90/SG Klay Thompson (18.6 PER) - OVERRATED
95/PG Stephen Curry (27.5 PER)
BENCH
78/SF Andre Iguodala (11.6 PER) - OVERRATED
75/PG Shaun Livingston (11.0 PER)
75/SG Nick Young (13.7 PER)
73/SG Patrick McCaw (11.8 PER)
74/SF Omri Casspi (16.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF David West (25.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Jordan Bell (22.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PF Kevon Looney (12.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
RESERVE
76/C JaVale McGee (20.1 PER)
69/PG Quinn Cook
70/C Damian Jones
66/PF Chris Boucher
TEAM NOTES
1. Zaza is a very underrated defender which is why he continues to start over flashier players like McGee.
2. Draymond is versatile, but not a great offensive player. He is a mediocre shooter (31 3pt% over the last two seasons) and isn’t a post-up threat (0.50 PPP, 2nd percentile).
3. Durant’s rebounding is back to normal (18 DRB%) after a career high there (23 DRB%) last season. His turnovers are also up (a mediocre 1.4 A/T, down from last season’s 2.2). All in all he’s had better seasons and his rating should presently not reflect “2nd best player in the NBA”.
4. Klay has been overrated for a couple years now. He doesn’t create his own shot, doesn’t make his teammates better, and 2K has gifted him a 90 for awhile. Compare him to any other 90+ rated player and it quickly folds.
5. Iguodala is 34 years old and consequently having the worst season of his career. His TS% dropped 71 points (shooting 27% from three) and is recording career lows in the following: 10.0 DRB%, 1.1 STL%, and 10.7 USG%.
6. West is shooting 67% from the field (69 TS%; last year 57%) and has 26 blocks in 274 minutes (absurd 7.6 BLK%). Two years ago he had 55 blocks in 1400 minutes.
7. Casspi career highs: 67 TS% (last year 53%), 24 DRB% (last year 15%), 2.9 BLK% (last year 0.4%).
8. Looney’s overall production indicates he is better than your average 70 OVR who is clinging to the league. Career numbers: 59 TS% on 13 USG%, 11.6 ORB%, 18.5 DRB%, 3.9 BLK%. He’s 21.
9. Bell is likewise another player who would be playing regularly if he played for a team that wasn’t the Warriors.
STARTERS
85/C Clint Capela (26.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/PF Ryan Anderson (13.9 PER)
76/SF Trevor Ariza (12.5 PER)
96/SG James Harden (30.8 PER)
90/PG Chris Paul (22.9 PER)
BENCH
81/SG Eric Gordon (14.4 PER) - OVERRATED
76/SF P.J. Tucker (9.5 PER)
75/PF Luc Mbah a Moute (10.3 PER)
77/C Nene (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/C Tarik Black (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PG Bobby Brown (3.8 PER)
68/PG Demetrius Jackson
69/C Zhou Qi
RESERVE
71/SF Troy Williams
70/PG Briante Weber
69/C Chinanu Onuaku
TEAM NOTES
1. Capela is 6th in PER thanks to his elite FG% (currently 2nd). His rebound rate skyrocketed this season to 35 DRB%, good for 2nd in the NBA. He’s 5th in Blocks (5.9%) and 8th in ORB% (14.6). He’s the Tyson Chandler that Mike D’Antoni’s teams have always lacked.
2. I’ve seen Gordon get a lot of credit for the Rockets success but he’s shooting 40% from the field, 31% from deep, and doesn’t really bring much beyond his scoring. The Rockets are undefeated when Chris Paul takes the court.
3. Nene is shooting 66% from the field. His FG% progression over the last six years: 48, 50, 51, 54, 62, 66. He has thrived in a bench role over the last few years.
STARTERS
76/C Zaza Pachulia (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
88/PF Draymond Green (16.6 PER) - OVERRATED
96/SF Kevin Durant (23.2 PER) - OVERRATED
90/SG Klay Thompson (18.6 PER) - OVERRATED
95/PG Stephen Curry (27.5 PER)
BENCH
78/SF Andre Iguodala (11.6 PER) - OVERRATED
75/PG Shaun Livingston (11.0 PER)
75/SG Nick Young (13.7 PER)
73/SG Patrick McCaw (11.8 PER)
74/SF Omri Casspi (16.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF David West (25.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Jordan Bell (22.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PF Kevon Looney (12.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
RESERVE
76/C JaVale McGee (20.1 PER)
69/PG Quinn Cook
70/C Damian Jones
66/PF Chris Boucher
TEAM NOTES
1. Zaza is a very underrated defender which is why he continues to start over flashier players like McGee.
2. Draymond is versatile, but not a great offensive player. He is a mediocre shooter (31 3pt% over the last two seasons) and isn’t a post-up threat (0.50 PPP, 2nd percentile).
3. Durant’s rebounding is back to normal (18 DRB%) after a career high there (23 DRB%) last season. His turnovers are also up (a mediocre 1.4 A/T, down from last season’s 2.2). All in all he’s had better seasons and his rating should presently not reflect “2nd best player in the NBA”.
4. Klay has been overrated for a couple years now. He doesn’t create his own shot, doesn’t make his teammates better, and 2K has gifted him a 90 for awhile. Compare him to any other 90+ rated player and it quickly folds.
5. Iguodala is 34 years old and consequently having the worst season of his career. His TS% dropped 71 points (shooting 27% from three) and is recording career lows in the following: 10.0 DRB%, 1.1 STL%, and 10.7 USG%.
6. West is shooting 67% from the field (69 TS%; last year 57%) and has 26 blocks in 274 minutes (absurd 7.6 BLK%). Two years ago he had 55 blocks in 1400 minutes.
7. Casspi career highs: 67 TS% (last year 53%), 24 DRB% (last year 15%), 2.9 BLK% (last year 0.4%).
8. Looney’s overall production indicates he is better than your average 70 OVR who is clinging to the league. Career numbers: 59 TS% on 13 USG%, 11.6 ORB%, 18.5 DRB%, 3.9 BLK%. He’s 21.
9. Bell is likewise another player who would be playing regularly if he played for a team that wasn’t the Warriors.
No mention that Curry still has a 99 Open Shot 3 when he's shooting 38.1% from 3 his worst % of his career?
Also Durant is averaging is averaging 2 blocks a game with 4.6 BLK% (up from 3.8 last season.)
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You can edit everything in MyLeague. Ratings, badges, vitals, everything!
I do not have access to attribute data and am merely assessing each player's OVR (of which, there is nothing particularly wrong with Curry's).
It goes without saying that each player has numerous attributes that could be adjusted. Listing them all in-depth would take quite a bit of time and is rather counter-intuitive when the same effort/detail could be put into a roster file.
STARTERS
84/C DeAndre Jordan (18.7 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PF Montrezl Harrell (22.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/SF Wesley Johnson (10.5 PER)
76/SG Austin Rivers (12.0 PER)
83/PG Lou Williams (20.2 PER)
BENCH
71/SG Sindarius Thornwell (7.4 PER)
76/C Willie Reed (21.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Sam Dekker (7.7 PER)
68/PG Jawun Evans (7.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
65/SF C.J. Williams
66/PF Jamil Wilson
70/PF Brice Johnson
RESERVE
78/SF Danilo Gallinari (11.2 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA December
77/PG Milos Tedosic - ETA January
86/PF Blake Griffin (20.7 PER) - ETA February
78/PG Patrick Beverley (13.2 PER) - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Jordan is leading the league in TS% but his turnovers are way up without Chris Paul feeding him the ball. The team’s defense has also fallen apart as Jordan records a career-low Block rate.
2. Griffin started off the season hot, but poor shooting has caught up to him. He’s shooting only 38% from the field over his last 10 games.
3. Gallinari is shooting 36% and 26% from deep.
4. Reed and Harrell are super efficient as always, boasting 70 and 64 TS% respectively.
I must be blind how do you update badges ? I am in my league 30 team control and ive looked everywhere on edit player
STARTERS
80/C Brook Lopez (17.2 PER)
78/PF Larry Nance (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF Brandon Ingram (12.8 PER) - OVERRATED
77/SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (12.3 PER)
75/PG Lonzo Ball (9.8 PER)
BENCH
78/PF Kyle Kuzma (15.6 PER)
79/PG Jordan Clarkson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
77/C Julius Randle (17.2 PER)
70/SF Corey Brewer (8.0 PER)
69/SG Josh Hart (8.3 PER)
73/C Andrew Bogut (11.0 PER)
72/PG Tyler Ennis
68/SG Vander Blue
RESERVE
68/PG Alex Caruso
75/C Ivica Zubac
73/SF Luol Deng
68/C Thomas Bryant
TEAM NOTES
1. Nance has a fantastic motor and leads the Lakers in TS%, ORB%, and STL%
2. Ingram is a below average shooter from pretty much anywhere outside of three feet. Still only 20 years old, he needs more time.
3. Clarkson is posting career bests in TS% and AST%, but has seen his minutes limited by a prodigy who isn’t half as good as D’Angelo Russell.
STARTERS
86/C Marc Gasol (18.1 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PF JaMychal Green (15.8 PER)
73/SF Dillon Brooks (8.1 PER)
73/SG Ben McLemore (7.6 PER)
83/PG Tyreke Evans (22.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF James Ennis (11.3 PER)
72/PG Mario Chalmers (9.9 PER)
71/PF Jarell Martin (7.1 PER)
77/PF Chandler Parsons (16.1 PER)
69/SG Andrew Harrison (10.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/C Brandan Wright (20.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/C Deyonta Davis (18.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
66/PG Kobi Simmons
RESERVE
67/SF Vince Hunter
69/PF Ivan Rabb
85/PG Mike Conley (16.1 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
70/SG Wayne Selden - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Gasol is shooting much worse than last season, be it from distance or the post.
2017: 67% Inside, 46% Close, 39% Mid, 39% 3pt
2018: 71% Inside, 38% Close, 32% Mid, 32% 3pt
2. Conley has seen his shooting numbers tank, dropping from a career-best 60 TS% last season to 52% (only rookie season worse) this season. He also has a career worst Assist and Steal rate.
3. Tyreke Evans is finally having his breakout season, having finally figured out how to shoot the three-ball. He’s 41-96 (43%) from deep through 22 games. Prior to this season he was a career 30% shooter.
4. Harrison is shooting 38% from the field - a big improvement from the 32% he shot last season.
5. Wright has a career 20.3 PER so this level of play is nothing new for him, it is who he is. He’s an efficient glass cleaner who doesn’t need the ball, and a block machine. Health has always been his issue, having only played 55% of his possible career games (416 of 744).
STARTERS
89/C Karl-Anthony Towns (21.7 PER) - OVERRATED
77/PF Taj Gibson (15.3 PER)
88/SF Jimmy Butler (19.5 PER) - OVERRATED
83/SG Andrew Wiggins (14.4 PER) - OVERRATED
79/PG Jeff Teague (15.6 PER)
BENCH
72/PG Tyus Jones (13.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/SG Jamal Crawford (13.6 PER)
76/C Gorgui Dieng (16.8 PER)
76/PF Nemanja Bjelica (18.2 PER)
73/SF Shabazz Muhammad (9.1 PER)
73/PG Aaron Brooks
67/SG Marcus Georges-Hunt
72/C Cole Aldrich
RESERVE
70/SF Anthony Brown
70/C Justin Patton - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Towns has taken a step backwards this season. He isn’t going to move forward until he makes a commitment to defense. Towns has ranked last among all centers in DRPM over the last two seasons.
2. Butler is playing better after a rough start (having scored 30 in back-to-back games), but he still isn’t close (55 TS% on 23 USG%) to the player he was with the Bulls last season (59 TS% on 27 USG%).
3. Wiggins hasn’t improved over the last three years and it’s mind-boggling why he was ever given an OVR this high in the first place.
4. Jones has proven to be a solid backup, ranking 7th in the NBA in STL%. Let us not forget how crazy 2K went for Frank Ntlitkina, who is garbage by comparison.
(All caught up on previously done teams)
STARTERS
89/C Karl-Anthony Towns (21.7 PER) - OVERRATED
77/PF Taj Gibson (15.3 PER)
88/SF Jimmy Butler (19.5 PER) - OVERRATED
83/SG Andrew Wiggins (14.4 PER) - OVERRATED
79/PG Jeff Teague (15.6 PER)
BENCH
72/PG Tyus Jones (13.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/SG Jamal Crawford (13.6 PER)
76/C Gorgui Dieng (16.8 PER)
76/PF Nemanja Bjelica (18.2 PER)
73/SF Shabazz Muhammad (9.1 PER)
73/PG Aaron Brooks
67/SG Marcus Georges-Hunt
72/C Cole Aldrich
RESERVE
70/SF Anthony Brown
70/C Justin Patton - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Towns has taken a step backwards this season. He isn’t going to move forward until he makes a commitment to defense. Towns has ranked last among all centers in DRPM over the last two seasons.
2. Butler is playing better after a rough start (having scored 30 in back-to-back games), but he still isn’t close (55 TS% on 23 USG%) to the player he was with the Bulls last season (59 TS% on 27 USG%).
3. Wiggins hasn’t improved over the last three years and it’s mind-boggling why he was ever given an OVR this high in the first place.
4. Jones has proven to be a solid backup, ranking 7th in the NBA in STL%. Let us not forget how crazy 2K went for Frank Ntlitkina, who is garbage by comparison.
(All caught up on previously done teams)
God how I would kill for you to go back to roster making...
STARTERS
91/C DeMarcus Cousins (22.7 PER)
94/PF Anthony Davis (28.6 PER)
74/SF E’Twaun Moore (12.8 PER)
77/SG Jrue Holiday (14.1 PER)
76/PG Rajon Rondo (14.5 PER)
BENCH
71/SF Dante Cunningham (8.3 PER)
73/PG Jameer Nelson (10.5 PER)
72/PF Darius Miller (12.3 PER)
72/SG Ian Clark (6.2 PER)
75/SF Tony Allen (8.3 PER) - OVERRATED
69/PF Cheick Diallo (9.2 PER)
71/C Omer Asik
68/SF Jalen Jones
RESERVE
67/PG Charles Cooke
72/C Alexis Ajinca - OUT INDEFINITELY
70/PG Frank Jackson - ETA January
72/SF Solomon Hill - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. Tony Allen lead the league in STL% last season but he has posted by far the worst mark of his career (1.9%) so far this season.
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STARTERS
83/C Steven Adams (21.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
83/SF Carmelo Anthony (15.6 PER) - OVERRATED
88/SF Paul George (17.4 PER) - OVERRATED
75/SG Andre Roberson (9.7 PER)
92/PG Russell Westbrook (21.5 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
75/PF Jerami Grant (15.2 PER)
75/PG Raymond Felton (13.5 PER)
73/SG Alex Abrines (6.6 PER) - OVERRATED
73/C Patrick Patterson (5.4 PER) - OVERRATED
70/PF Josh Huestis (3.6 PER)
70/SG Terrance Ferguson
71/C Dakari Johnson
70/C Nick Collison
RESERVE
66/SG Daniel Hamilton
67/SF Kyle Singler
67/SG P.J. Dozier
TEAM NOTES
1. Last season Westbrook lead the league with 30.6 PER - a nine-point drop is quite harsh. It’s his lowest mark since becoming an All-Star 8 years ago. Last season Westbrook set the NBA record for 41.7 USG%, and that is down to a more acceptable 33%. Yet despite the lighter load, his efficiency has plummeted (50 TS% from 55%). He is shooting it the worst he’s ever shot it from 3-23 feet.
2. Carmelo Anthony is having the worst season of his career, and has completely fallen apart over the last two seasons. He was lucky to be an All-Star last season, and is certainly not at that level now. His efficiency continues to drop despite a progressively decreasing volume.
3. Unlike Melo, Paul George is in the prime of his career and struggling to put it together. He’s shooting 32% from 3-23 feet, compared to 46% last season.
4. Steven Adams defense and hustle is largely the only thing that has kept OKC from being a dumpster fire. His TS% is through the roof and he’s posting the best ORB% and STL% of his career.
5. The Big 3 might be struggling but Jerami Grant has put together the best shooting year of his career.
6. Abrines is shooting 38% (31 3pt%) and isn’t exactly a great defender either.
7. Patterson is shooting 33% from the field. Quick reminder that he shot 56% in his first pro season. This is easily the worst rebounding year of his career even though he’s logging most of his minutes at center.
edit Player -> badges? :D dont Know how to help you more, as it is that simple.
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Edit Player, is the last option.
Usually Badges does not appear on the screen and you have to scroll the page down.
Kyrie needs that HOF acrobat badge since he change his shots around the rim more than anyone. LeBron got the HOF acrobat but he's more like freight train so he should only have HOF relentless finisher and a gold/silver acrobat.
Smart needs to have his 3 pt rating reduced a bit. A 29% 3-pt shot just doesn't cut it.
Kyrie needs that HOF acrobat badge since he change his shots around the rim more than anyone. LeBron got the HOF acrobat but he's more like freight train so he should only have HOF relentless finisher and a gold/silver acrobat.
Smart needs to have his 3 pt rating reduced a bit. A 29% 3-pt shot just doesn't cut it.
I think got a 70 because he is so up and down. One game he can hit 4. The next he can't hit the sea from the boat. It's kind of hard to rate a guy like that. Even with the unpredictable badge.
edit: Even his layups are are really low. I played with him yesterday. I think they are in the 50's from what I remember. His overall is an 80 now. But after playing a few games with him. It feels right to me.
STARTERS
76/C Tyson Chandler (16.0 PER)
74/PF Marquese Chriss (10.0 PER)
81/SF T.J. Warren (18.4 PER)
74/SG Josh Jackson (7.9 PER)
74/PG Tyler Ulis (9.8 PER)
BENCH
75/PG Mike James (14.4 PER)
73/PF Dragan Bender (7.2 PER) - OVERRATED
77/C Alex Len (18.0 PER)
72/SG Troy Daniels (9.8 PER)
77/C Greg Monroe (18.4 PER)
74/PF Jared Dudley (15.3 PER)
67/PF Alec Peters
RESERVE
87/SG Devin Booker (19.3 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
69/SG Davon Reed - ETA February
75/PF Alan Williams - ETA March
74/PG Brandon Knight - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Booker ranks 97th in DRPM out of 99 Shooting Guards.
2. Bender is shooting 36% for his career. Only 20 years old, he still has a long way to go.
Team just cut Derrick Jones to make room for Mike James, who got bumped up to an NBA contract. They will likely fill their subsequent Two-Way Contract roster opening in the coming days.
One of these is a AAA title and the other is NBA 2K.
STARTERS
79/C Jusuf Nurkic (15.0 PER)
75/PF Al-Farouq Aminu (14.0 PER)
73/SF Maurice Harkless (8.5 PER)
85/SG C.J. McCollum (16.3 PER) - OVERRATED
89/PG Damian Lillard (23.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF Evan Turner (7.8 PER)
74/SG Pat Connaughton (10.4 PER)
75/C Ed Davis (14.9 PER)
74/PF Noah Vonleh (12.6 PER)
76/PG Shabazz Napier (18.0 PER)
70/PF Caleb Swanigan (7.0 PER)
70/C Meyers Leonard
69/PF Jake Layman
RESERVE
71/C Zach Collins
69/PG Wade Baldwin
67/SG C.J. Wilcox - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. The biggest difference between Lillard and Steph Curry at this point is the quality of their teammates.
2. McCollum’s efficiency has dropped - he’s hitting a career low 44% of his twos.
Usually Badges does not appear on the screen and you have to scroll the page down.
Badges are also available in the Quick Edit menu this year.
STARTERS
79/C Zach Randolph (19.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Skal Labissiere (13.8 PER)
74/SF Garrett Temple (10.1 PER)
75/SG George Hill (12.3 PER)
75/PG De’Aaron Fox (10.3 PER)
BENCH
77/C Willie Cauley-Stein (17.2 PER)
75/SF Bogdan Bogdanovic (12.5 PER)
78/SG Buddy Hield (17.2 PER)
73/C Kosta Koufos (14.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
72/SF Justin Jackson (6.8 PER)
69/PG Frank Mason (15.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Vince Carter (4.9 PER) - OVERRATED
70/SF Malachi Richardson (9.0 PER)
RESERVE
69/PF Jakarr Sampson
72/C Georgios Papagiannis
67/PF Jack Cooley
70/PF Harry Giles - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. Randolph leads the Kings in scoring and rebounding. At 54 TS% he’s shooting it much better than last season (49 TS%)
2. Mason’s production is solid on an otherwise dumpster fire of a team.
3. Age caught up to the 41-year old Carter.
4. Koufos one of those dudes that’s been underrated an entire decade because he plays in small markets.
STARTERS
82/C Pau Gasol (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
89/PF LaMarcus Aldridge (25.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
81/SF Rudy Gay (18.7 PER)
76/SG Danny Green (12.3 PER)
77/PG Tony Parker
BENCH
75/PG Patty Mills (12.4 PER)
75/PG DeJounte Murray (12.7 PER)
74/SG Manu Ginobili (10.1 PER)
72/SG Bryn Forbes (10.9 PER)
70/PG Brandon Paul (10.4 PER)
72/PF Davis Bertans (15.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/C Joffrey Lauvergne (10.9 PER)
70/SG Derrick White
RESERVE
69/SG Darrun Hilliard
67/PF Matt Costello
95/SF Kawhi Leonard - ETA December
75/SF Kyle Anderson (16.6 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Aldridge is having a career year whilst carrying the Spurs through injuries to their other players.
2. Gasol is still a fantastic rebounder and post player. He’s hit 50% of his threes since joining the Spurs.
3. Anderson has done an admirable job filling in for Kawhi Leonard. He’s shooting a career best 57 TS% (51 FG%).
STARTERS
86/C Rudy Gobert (19.4 PER)
80/PF Derrick Favors (19.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF Joe Ingles (14.3 PER)
80/SG Donovan Mitchell (16.0 PER)
78/PG Ricky Rubio (13.1 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Rodney Hood (15.6 PER)
77/SF Thabo Sefolosha (17.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/SG Alec Burks (16.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/C Ekpe Udoh (14.0 PER)
76/PF Jonas Jerebko (14.5 PER)
71/PG Raul Neto (13.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SG Royce O’Neale (10.2 PER)
69/C Tony Bradley
70/PG Nate Wolters
RESERVE
68/SF Eric Griffin
75/SF Joe Johnson (8.1 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
73/PG Dante Exum - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Derrick Favors rebounded from a sub-par 2017. He’s shooting a career high 60 TS%, up from last season’s career low of 51%. Also posting his best Assist rate.
2. Sefolosha is having a career year, shooting 62 TS% (41 3PT%), with career best marks of 21 DRB% and a league-leading 3.6 STL%.
3. Burks hasn’t been healthy much the last 4 years, but is having the best season of his career. Career high 56 TS% is up from last season’s career low 50%. Posting his best DRB%, STL%, and easily BLK%, along with the lowest turnover and foul rates of his career.
4. Johnson hasn’t played a ton yet due to injury, but he’s also 36 and has struggled in the minutes he’s gotten. The other backup wings have overperformed which means he’ll be hardpressed to carve a meaningful rotation spot once healthy.
5. As with the rest of the bench, Neto having a career year due to improved shooting.
That's all 30 teams
Agreed :y1:
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I think Jah got the short end of the stick here. Like Tyeker Evans did. Hopefully he plays well.
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Yes I've seen him play, but he's averaging 25 6 reb along with 1 ast. How does that put him up there with Giannis?
His 91 OVR is an overreaction to his first 10 games of the year (30 ppg 7.5 rpg 51% shooting).
In the 10 games since he's averaging 20.8 ppg 6 rpg on 40% shooting.
When Porzingis got his bump he was around 28 PER and dropping 30+ a night, whereas now he is a bit back to earth and more on par with LaMarcus Aldridge.
KP is with Cousins.
Again this is why I asked what are you talking about?
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98 LeBron James: 31.4 PER, 67 TS%, 43 AST%, 30 USG%
95 Giannis Antetokounmpo: 31.2 PER, 61 TS%, 23 AST%, 34 USG%
94 Anthony Davis: 28.6 PER, 65 TS%, 13 AST%, 27 USG%
91 Kristaps Porzingis: 24.0 PER, 57 TS%, 6 AST%, 34 USG%
89 LaMarcus Aldridge: 25.1 PER, 58 TS%, 13 AST%, 29 USG%
88 Draymond Green: 16.6 PER, 58 TS%, 28 AST%, 16 USG%
86 Blake Griffin: 20.7 PER, 54 TS%, 25 AST%, 30 USG%
85 Paul Millsap: 17.6 PER, 53 TS%, 16 AST%, 24 USG%
84 Aaron Gordon: 20.4 PER, 62 TS%, 10 AST%, 21 USG%
83 Carmelo Anthony: 15.6 PER, 52 TS%, 9 AST%, 26 USG%
Aldridge and Porzingis should probably swap ratings.
KP is a pretty bad passer for a volume scorer - very likely the worst among them.
The other 20 starters
82 Tobias Harris: 19.0 PER, 60 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
80 Derrick Favors: 19.8 PER, 60 TS%, 11 AST%, 20 USG%
79 Zach Randolph: 19.4 PER, 54 TS%, 16 AST%, 27 USG%
79 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 18.0 PER, 57 TS%, 11 AST%, 21 USG%
78 Larry Nance: 18.0 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 16 USG%
78 Marcus Morris: 15.9 PER, 54 TS%, 10 AST%, 24 USG%
78 Thaddeus Young: 15.1 PER, 54 TS%, 9 AST%, 18 USG%
78 Serge Ibaka: 14.2 PER, 58 TS%, 3 AST%, 19 USG%
78 Ryan Anderson: 13.8 PER, 63 TS%, 3 AST%, 16 USG%
77 Taj Gibson: 15.7 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 14 USG%
77 Dario Saric: 12.2 PER, 52 TS%, 10 AST%, 18 USG%
76 JaMychal Green: 14.2 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 18 USG%
76 Marvin Williams: 13.8 PER, 61 TS%, 6 AST%, 13 USG%
76 Lauri Markkanen: 13.6 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
76 Markieff Morris: 10.8 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 21 USG%
75 Al-Farouq Aminu: 14.0 PER, 62 TS%, 7 AST%, 13 USG%
74 Ersan Ilyasova: 11.4 PER, 44 TS%, 5 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Justise Winslow: 10.4 PER, 47 TS%, 12 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Marquese Chriss: 10.0 PER, 49 TS%, 8 AST%, 15 USG%
71 Maxi Kleber: 13.2 PER, 60 TS%, 4 AST%, 14 USG%
98 LeBron James: 31.4 PER, 67 TS%, 43 AST%, 30 USG%
97 Giannis Antetokounmpo: 31.2 PER, 61 TS%, 23 AST%, 34 USG%
94 Anthony Davis: 28.6 PER, 65 TS%, 13 AST%, 27 USG%
90 LaMarcus Aldridge: 25.1 PER, 58 TS%, 13 AST%, 29 USG%
88 Kristaps Porzingis: 24.0 PER, 57 TS%, 6 AST%, 34 USG%
85 Blake Griffin: 20.7 PER, 54 TS%, 25 AST%, 30 USG%
84 Aaron Gordon: 20.4 PER, 62 TS%, 10 AST%, 21 USG%
84 Draymond Green: 16.6 PER, 58 TS%, 28 AST%, 16 USG%
83 Paul Millsap: 17.6 PER, 53 TS%, 16 AST%, 24 USG%
82 Derrick Favors: 19.8 PER, 60 TS%, 11 AST%, 20 USG%
82 Tobias Harris: 19.0 PER, 60 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
81 Zach Randolph: 19.4 PER, 54 TS%, 16 AST%, 27 USG%
80 Carmelo Anthony: 15.6 PER, 52 TS%, 9 AST%, 26 USG%
79 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 18.0 PER, 57 TS%, 11 AST%, 21 USG%
79 Larry Nance: 18.0 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 16 USG%
78 Marcus Morris: 15.9 PER, 54 TS%, 10 AST%, 24 USG%
78 Taj Gibson: 15.7 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 14 USG%
78 Thaddeus Young: 15.1 PER, 54 TS%, 9 AST%, 18 USG%
78 Serge Ibaka: 14.2 PER, 58 TS%, 3 AST%, 19 USG%
77 JaMychal Green: 14.2 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 18 USG%
76 Ryan Anderson: 13.8 PER, 63 TS%, 3 AST%, 16 USG%
76 Al-Farouq Aminu: 14.0 PER, 62 TS%, 7 AST%, 13 USG%
76 Marvin Williams: 13.8 PER, 61 TS%, 6 AST%, 13 USG%
76 Lauri Markkanen: 13.6 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
76 Dario Saric: 12.2 PER, 52 TS%, 10 AST%, 18 USG%
75 Maxi Kleber: 13.2 PER, 60 TS%, 4 AST%, 14 USG%
74 Ersan Ilyasova: 11.4 PER, 44 TS%, 5 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Markieff Morris: 10.8 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 21 USG%
74 Justise Winslow: 10.4 PER, 47 TS%, 12 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Marquese Chriss: 10.0 PER, 49 TS%, 8 AST%, 15 USG%
98 LeBron James: 31.4 PER, 67 TS%, 43 AST%, 30 USG%
97 Giannis Antetokounmpo: 31.2 PER, 61 TS%, 23 AST%, 34 USG%
94 Anthony Davis: 28.6 PER, 65 TS%, 13 AST%, 27 USG%
90 LaMarcus Aldridge: 25.1 PER, 58 TS%, 13 AST%, 29 USG%
88 Kristaps Porzingis: 24.0 PER, 57 TS%, 6 AST%, 34 USG%
85 Blake Griffin: 20.7 PER, 54 TS%, 25 AST%, 30 USG%
84 Aaron Gordon: 20.4 PER, 62 TS%, 10 AST%, 21 USG%
84 Draymond Green: 16.6 PER, 58 TS%, 28 AST%, 16 USG%
83 Paul Millsap: 17.6 PER, 53 TS%, 16 AST%, 24 USG%
82 Derrick Favors: 19.8 PER, 60 TS%, 11 AST%, 20 USG%
82 Tobias Harris: 19.0 PER, 60 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
81 Zach Randolph: 19.4 PER, 54 TS%, 16 AST%, 27 USG%
80 Carmelo Anthony: 15.6 PER, 52 TS%, 9 AST%, 26 USG%
79 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 18.0 PER, 57 TS%, 11 AST%, 21 USG%
79 Larry Nance: 18.0 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 16 USG%
78 Marcus Morris: 15.9 PER, 54 TS%, 10 AST%, 24 USG%
78 Taj Gibson: 15.7 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 14 USG%
78 Thaddeus Young: 15.1 PER, 54 TS%, 9 AST%, 18 USG%
78 Serge Ibaka: 14.2 PER, 58 TS%, 3 AST%, 19 USG%
77 JaMychal Green: 14.2 PER, 61 TS%, 7 AST%, 18 USG%
76 Ryan Anderson: 13.8 PER, 63 TS%, 3 AST%, 16 USG%
76 Al-Farouq Aminu: 14.0 PER, 62 TS%, 7 AST%, 13 USG%
76 Marvin Williams: 13.8 PER, 61 TS%, 6 AST%, 13 USG%
76 Lauri Markkanen: 13.6 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 22 USG%
76 Dario Saric: 12.2 PER, 52 TS%, 10 AST%, 18 USG%
75 Maxi Kleber: 13.2 PER, 60 TS%, 4 AST%, 14 USG%
74 Ersan Ilyasova: 11.4 PER, 44 TS%, 5 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Markieff Morris: 10.8 PER, 51 TS%, 8 AST%, 21 USG%
74 Justise Winslow: 10.4 PER, 47 TS%, 12 AST%, 16 USG%
74 Marquese Chriss: 10.0 PER, 49 TS%, 8 AST%, 15 USG%
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Especially considering that intangibles mess up the OVR ratings anyway.
KP is with Cousins.
Again this is why I asked what are you talking about?
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He isn't on Cousins level either. His overall is too high. That's what I'm talking bout.
Especially considering that intangibles mess up the OVR ratings anyway.
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Most attributes are stat-based.
It would take eons to list every discrepancy (something I know from experience). Whereas via timestamp you can see I came up with my assessment of every starting PF in 10 minutes.
Thank you for ending by validating my entire point. Intangibles are an OVR band-aid.
I don't disagree with you.
DeMarcus Cousins
23.3 PER
57 TS% on 34 USG% (2nd in USG)
7 ORB% / 31 DRB% (4th in DRB)
24 AST% / 1.02 ATR
2.1 STL% / 3.4 BLK%
5.08 RPM (#2 Center / #5 NBA)
2.85 ORPM (#1 Center)
2.23 DRPM (#9 Center)
Kristaps Porzingis
24.0 PER
57 TS% on 34 USG% (3rd in USG)
5 ORB% / 19 DRB%
6 AST% / 0.45 ATR
0.8 STL% / 6.1 BLK% (3rd in BLK)
1.42 RPM (#15 PF / #63 NBA)
1.02 ORPM (#10 PF)
0.40 DRPM (#56 PF)
Porzingis is a better shot-blocker and that's pretty much it.
The reason Porzingis has been struggling of late is he's incapable of beating double-teams (as evidenced by his Assist rate and A/T ratio). He is definitely overrated at the moment.
I don't think Cousins is underrated, as I do think there should be some separation between he and Anthony Davis (94 OVR, 28 PER)
It would take eons to list every discrepancy (something I know from experience). Whereas via timestamp you can see I came up with my assessment of every starting PF in 10 minutes.
Thank you for ending by validating my entire point.
Same Story different day
Stats can't be the all say in rating a player. Especially in a video game. There has to be a balance between the two.
I know you don't agree. But just agreeing to disagree so this thread can move on. And we can pretend we like each other. Right? lol (Heard the news about us getting a big men)
I think of players like M.Smart. He's really hard to rate. If you rate him by stats. He's pure garbage. Especially if your looking at overall only. But when you watch him play. He know he's effecting the game. It's the Jason Kidd effect not in the same way.
Never said that they were. They make up a SIGNIFICANT quantifiable portion, however.
Like it or not, statistical production correlates with wins and losses, given a universal truth:
The team that scores the most points wins the game.
Every sports statistic ever generated is a tool designed to help us understand how that comes to pass.
It's only hard to rate him if you think rubbing your head and tummy at the same time is a difficult task.
Not that we aren't far along enough to quantify that effect nowadays either. He ranks 6th among PGs in DRPM, and 2nd among those playing 30+ minutes.
Smart DRPM (Position Rank)
2018: 0.92 (6th)
2017: 0.49 (13th)
2016: 0.72 (6th)
2015: 1.05 (6th)
Obviously, he is a much better defender than your average PG. Data backs that assessment up. That wasn't difficult. That took about 2 minutes.
Like it or not, statistical production correlates with wins and losses. The team that scores the most points wins the game.
Every sports statistic ever generated is a tool designed to help us understand how that comes to pass.
It's only hard to rate him if you think rubbing your head and tummy at the same time is a difficult task.
Not that we aren't far along enough to quantify that effect nowadays either. He ranks 6th among PGs in DRPM, and 2nd among those playing 30+ minutes.
Smart DRPM (Position Rank)
2018: 0.92 (6th)
2017: 0.49 (13th)
2016: 0.72 (6th)
2015: 1.05 (6th)
Obviously, he is a much better defender than your average PG. Data backs that assessment up. That wasn't difficult. That took about 2 minutes.
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I think Jah got the short end of the stick here. Like Tyeker Evans did. Hopefully he plays well.
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Book should absolutely be on the bench, but considering how Jahlil was NEVER going to play and Stauskas is, well, just bad, I didn't hate this trade.
Book can be a legitimate big off the bench that can impact a game for 15 mpg
I loved Jahlil's offensive potential, he has an incredible opportunity to turn his career around now. Wish him the best of luck.
in the past 12-14 games hes had a major turn around but hes still not at the overall he was at launch.
at this point he has the 2nd best TS% of all pgs in the game...has an elite efficiency rating but there wasnt much of a change..they were very quick to decrease his attributes before.
the bench as well is very underrated im assuming thats why the roster is ranked 14th overall in offense when they are a top 3 offense in the league
Cousins is a high usage rate stat padding no defense scrub. If you need proof at how completely irrelevant he is to his teams success..
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NOP.HTM
New Orleans literally has a net negative on/off statistics with him lmaoooo. Meanwhile KP carrying NY hard..
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NYK.HTM
Cousins, next to Melo, is the most overrated player I have ever seen in the NBA and I have no idea why people can't see this.
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NOP.HTM
New Orleans literally has a net negative on/off statistics with him lmaoooo. Meanwhile KP carrying NY hard..
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NYK.HTM
Cousins, next to Melo, is the most overrated player I have ever seen in the NBA and I have no idea why people can't see this.
Uh.... that isn't what the data says about Cousins.... at all.....
Touting the above is essentially how "analytics" get a bad name.
If you're going to use straight-up +/- stats (read: not RPM) to evaluate skills you'll need to explain stuff like Kyle Korver being an All-NBA defender.
Of course KP is gonna have great +/- numbers when the rest of his team is garbo. He doesn't have Anthony Davis playing the minutes he doesn't. He has Lance Thomas.
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NOP.HTM
New Orleans literally has a net negative on/off statistics with him lmaoooo. Meanwhile KP carrying NY hard..
http://www.82games.com/1718/1718NYK.HTM
Cousins, next to Melo, is the most overrated player I have ever seen in the NBA and I have no idea why people can't see this.
That's like me saying:
Cousins has a higher VORP. Cousins > Davis.
Touting the above is essentially how "analytics" get a bad name.
If you're going to use straight-up +/- stats (read: not RPM) to evaluate skills you'll need to explain stuff like Kyle Korver being an All-NBA defender.
Of course KP is gonna have great +/- numbers when the rest of his team is garbo. He doesn't have Anthony Davis playing the minutes he doesn't. He has Lance Thomas.
I don't think you understand how on/off court statistics work.
The team literally plays better when he's not out there. NO's best 5 man groups don't even include Cousins :34::34:
This is ironic.
I'll wait. :brickwall
Edit* Oh I forgot why you love Cousins so much, that PER (your only metric for gauging a player) is off the chart because he black hole fluff stats.
Philadelphia 76ers (8th Overall, 18th Offense, 12th Defense)
STARTERS
88/C Joel Embiid (23.5 PER)
77/PF Dario Saric (12.2 PER)
80/SF Robert Covington (14.9 PER)
78/SG J.J. Redick (13.7 PER)
84/PG Ben Simmons (19.8 PER)
BENCH
75/PG T.J. McConnell (13.9 PER)
73/SG Jerryd Bayless (8.8 PER)
72/SF Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot (9.2 PER)
75/PF Trevor Booker (15.5 PER)
75/C Amir Johnson (15.3 PER)
75/C Richuan Holmes (14.9 PER)
70/SG Furkan Korkmaz
69/PF James Michael McAdoo
RESERVE
67/PG Jacob Pullen
73/SF Justin Anderson (9.7 PER) - ETA December
77/PG Markelle Fultz - ETA December
Milwaukee Bucks (20th Overall, 15th Offense, 18th Defense)
STARTERS
75/C John Henson (14.3 PER)
95/PF Giannis Antetokounmpo (31.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
83/SF Khris Middleton (16.6 PER)
75/SG Tony Snell (11.0 PER)
82/PG Eric Bledsoe (18.6 PER)
BENCH
78/SG Malcolm Brogdon (14.1 PER)
73/C Thon Maker (8.7 PER)
71/SF DeAndre Liggins (5.0 PER)
73/PG Matthew Dellavedova (7.7 PER)
70/PG Jason Terry (5.8 PER)
71/SG Rashad Vaughn
69/PG Gary Payton
71/PF D.J Wilson
RESERVE
69/PF Joel Bolomboy
68/SG Sterling Brown
76/PF Mirza Teletovic (14.1 PER) - ETA December
81/PF Jabari Parker - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1.Not a ton to say about Giannis that isn't already evident. He's shooting 78% at the rim which is on par with prime LeBron. 30/10/4 at PF is Karl Malone territory. He leads the league in PER and is 23 years old.
Chicago Bulls (30th Overall, 30th Offense, 25th Defense)
STARTERS
78/C Robin Lopez (15.4 PER)
76/PF Lauri Markkanen (14.1 PER)
75/SF Denzel Valentine (11.5 PER)
74/SG Justin Holiday (12.2 PER)
75/PG Kris Dunn (12.8 PER)
BENCH
74/PG Jerian Grant (14.5 PER)
71/SF Paul Zipser (3.5 PER) - OVERRATED
71/C Cristiano Felicio (10.2 PER)
78/PF Bobby Portis (18.6 PER)
76/PF Nikola Mirotic
74/SG David Nwaba (14.8 PER)
69/SG Antonio Blackeney (8.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/SF Quincy Pondexter (5.8 PER) - OVERRATED
69/PG Kay Felder (4.0 PER)
RESERVE
67/PG Ryan Arcidiacono
80/SG Zach LaVine - ETA December
71/PG Cameron Payne - ETA January
TEAM NOTES
1. Zipser's career line: 6.0 PER, 46 TS% on 15 USG%. Simply not an NBA-caliber offensive player.
2.Pondexter is healthy for the first time in 3 years and that predictably means he isn't an NBA player anymore.
Cleveland Cavaliers (9th Overall, 3rd Offense, 23rd Defense)
STARTERS
88/C Kevin Love (24.7 PER)
98/PF LeBron James (31.3 PER)
76/SF Jae Crowder (9.3 PER) - OVERRATED
75/SG J.R. Smith (8.0 PER)
71/PG Jose Calderon (6.3 PER)
BENCH
79/PG Dwyane Wade (18.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SG Kyle Korver (15.4 PER)
79/PF Jeff Green (17.0 PER)
74/C Channing Frye (12.4 PER)
71/SF Cedi Osman
71/C Ante Zizic
67/SG John Holland
66/PG London Perrantes
RESERVE
77/PG Derrick Rose (11.9 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
76/C Tristan Thompson (10.2 PER) - ETA December
89/PG Isaiah Thomas - ETA January
73/PG Iman Shumpert (7.0 PER) - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. The last time LeBron (career high 2.6 BLK%) could be considered a PF was next to Shane Battier in Miami (who has a similar makeup to Crowder). LeBron has a 66 TS% right now - during the "PF years" in Miami he had 64 and 65 TS%.
2. Rumors of Wade’s demise were quite overstated. He has fully adapted to a sixth-man role - something his forebears Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were never willing to do, to the detriment of their teams.
3. Crowder has completely fallen apart. His shooting has taken a nose-dive (33 3pt%, from 39% last year) and he is rebounding like a SG (career low 9.9 DRB%) instead of a PF (career best 17.3% last season)
4. The Cavaliers are 11-1 since Rose left the team (a 4-point loss to the Rockets their lone defeat). It’s not a coincidence.
Boston Celtics (4th Overall, 9th Offense, 1st Defense)
STARTERS
87/C Al Horford (20.2 PER)
78/PF Marcus Morris (15.9 PER)
81/SF Jayson Tatum (17.4 PER)
80/SG Jaylen Brown (14.0 PER)
93/PG Kyrie Irving (25.1 PER)
BENCH
80/SG Marcus Smart (10.5 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PG Terry Rozier (13.5 PER)
76/C Aron Baynes (13.8 PER)
70/PF Semi Ojeleye (5.6 PER)
74/C Daniel Theis (14.9 PER)
71/PG Shane Larkin (5.2 PER)
68/SF Abdel Nader
70/C Guerschon Yabusele
RESERVE
67/SG Jabari Bird
68/SG Kadeem Allen
88/SF Gordon Hayward (OUT FOR SEASON)
TEAM NOTES
1. Smart's dismal shooting (44 TS%, 32 FG%) murks Boston's offensive rating.
Los Angeles Clippers (24th Overall, 11th Offense, 28th Defense)
STARTERS
84/C DeAndre Jordan (18.7 PER) - OVERRATED
78/SF Danilo Gallinari (11.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/SF Wesley Johnson (10.5 PER)
76/SG Austin Rivers (12.0 PER)
83/PG Lou Williams (20.2 PER)
BENCH
76/PF Montrezl Harrell (22.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/SG Sindarius Thornwell (7.4 PER)
76/C Willie Reed (21.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Sam Dekker (7.7 PER)
68/PG Jawun Evans (7.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
65/SF C.J. Williams
66/PF Jamil Wilson
70/PF Brice Johnson
RESERVE
77/PG Milos Tedosic - ETA January
86/PF Blake Griffin (20.7 PER) - ETA February
78/PG Patrick Beverley (13.2 PER) - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Jordan is leading the league in TS% but his turnovers are way up without Chris Paul feeding him the ball. The team’s defense has also fallen apart as Jordan records a career-low Block rate.
2. Griffin started off the season hot, but poor shooting has caught up to him. He’s shooting only 38% from the field over his last 10 games.
3. Gallinari is shooting 36% and 26% from deep.
3.Reed and Harrell are super efficient as always, boasting 70 and 64 TS% respectively.
Memphis Grizzlies (19th Overall, 26th Offense, 15th Defense)
STARTERS
86/C Marc Gasol (18.1 PER) - OVERRATED
76/PF JaMychal Green (15.8 PER)
73/SF Dillon Brooks (8.1 PER)
73/SG Ben McLemore (7.6 PER)
83/PG Tyreke Evans (22.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF James Ennis (11.3 PER)
72/PG Mario Chalmers (9.9 PER)
71/PF Jarell Martin (7.1 PER)
77/PF Chandler Parsons (16.1 PER)
69/SG Andrew Harrison (10.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/C Brandan Wright (20.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/C Deyonta Davis (18.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
66/PG Kobi Simmons
RESERVE
67/SF Vince Hunter
69/PF Ivan Rabb
85/PG Mike Conley (16.1 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
70/SG Wayne Selden - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Gasol is shooting much worse than last season, be it from distance or the post.
2017: 67% Inside, 46% Close, 39% Mid, 39% 3pt
2018: 71% Inside, 38% Close, 32% Mid, 32% 3pt
2. Conley has seen his shooting numbers tank, dropping from a career-best 60 TS% last season to 52% (only rookie season worse) this season. He also has a career worst Assist and Steal rate.
3. Tyreke Evans is finally having his breakout season, having finally figured out how to shoot the three-ball. He’s 41-96 (43%) from deep through 22 games. Prior to this season he was a career 30% shooter.
4. Harrison is shooting 38% from the field - a big improvement from the 32% he shot last season.
4.Wright has a career 20.3 PER so this level of play is nothing new for him, it is who he is. He’s an efficient glass cleaner who doesn’t need the ball, and a block machine. Health has always been his issue, having only played 55% of his possible career games (416 of 744).
Atlanta Hawks (27th Overall, 23rd Offense, 26th Defense)
STARTERS
70/C Miles Plumlee
74/PF Ersan Ilyasova (11.1 PER)
75/SF Taurean Prince (11.2 PER)
77/SG Kent Bazemore (13.8 PER)
82/PG Dennis Schroder (19.3 PER)
BENCH
77/SG Marco Belinelli (15.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF Luke Babbitt (13.3 PER)
72/PG Malcolm Delaney (8.2 PER)
72/PG Isaiah Taylor (11.9 PER)
65/PF Tyler Cavanaugh (13.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SG DeAndre Bembry (6.4 PER)
67/PG Josh Magette
67/SG Tyler Dorsey
RESERVE
78/C John Collins (20.4 PER) - ETA December
77/C DeWayne Dedmon (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA January
73/C Mike Muscala (10.7 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Belinelli is logging career highs in scoring (12 PPG), assists (15.4 AST%), and steals (2.2 STL%).
2. Dedmon boasts a 66 TS% due to extremely efficient perimeter shooting for a center. He is hitting 48% of his threes and that’s his worst percentage from ANYWHERE. He’s 75% at the rim and an absurd 54% from 3-23 feet)
3. Cavanaugh (61 TS%, 35 3PT%, 14 AST%) is obviously better than G-League caliber.
Miami Heat (25th Overall, 27th Offense, 13th Defense)
STARTERS
87/C Hassan Whiteside (25.6 PER)
74/PF Justise Winslow (10.8 PER)
74/SF Josh Richardson (7.2 PER)
78/SG Dion Waiters (10.3 PER) - OVERRATED
83/PG Goran Dragic (17.0 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
74/PG Tyler Johnson (10.1 PER)
78/PF James Johnson (15.2 PER)
77/C Kelly Olynyk (16.4 PER)
76/SG Wayne Ellington (14.2 PER)
72/C Bam Adebayo (17.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SF Okaro White
72/PF Jordan Mickey
66/PG Derrick Walton
RESERVE
70/C Udonis Haslem
68/C A.J. Hammons
65/SG Matt Williams
74/SG Rodney McGruder - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Dragic has gradually gotten worse at finishing as he’s gotten older. He’s down to 60% at the rim compared to 70% only a few years ago.
2. I'm still perplexed Waiters was able to trick a team into giving him a big contract. This guy is an offense killer. 48 TS% on 27 USG% is right in line with the rest of his career.
3. Bam has been adequate when starting for Whiteside.
Charlotte Hornets (17th Overall, 20th Offense, 14th Defense)
STARTERS
80/C Dwight Howard (17.1 PER)
76/PF Marvin Williams (14.2 PER)
75/SF Michael Kidd-Gilchrist (12.8 PER)
78/SG Nicolas Batum (11.2 PER) - OVERRATED
87/PG Kemba Walker (22.2 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Jeremy Lamb (18.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/PF Frank Kaminsky (13.0 PER) - OVERRATED
69/SF Dwayne Bacon (5.2 PER)
73/SG Malik Monk (8.6 PER)
77/C Cody Zeller (15.7 PER)
69/SF Treveon Graham (8.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/PG Michael Carter-Williams (10.3 PER)
68/PF Johnny O'Bryant
RESERVE
70/SG Julyan Stone
67/PG Marcus Paige
65/C Mangok Mathiang
TEAM NOTES
1. Charlotte’s offense has fallen apart since Batum (37 FG%, 21 3PT%) returned to the lineup, without any measurable improvement to their defense. This hopefully means more minutes will go Jeremy Lamb’s way.
2. Kaminsky hasn't developed since entering the league, and there really isn't reason for him to be rated equal to Marvin Williams, who has started for the team for four years now. Marvin is hitting 46% of his threes while Kaminsky has maintained 33-34% the duration of his 3-year career.
Utah Jazz (5th Overall, 13th Offense, 6th Defense)
STARTERS
86/C Rudy Gobert (19.4 PER)
80/PF Derrick Favors (19.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF Joe Ingles (14.3 PER)
80/SG Donovan Mitchell (16.0 PER)
78/PG Ricky Rubio (13.1 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Rodney Hood (15.6 PER)
77/SF Thabo Sefolosha (17.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/SG Alec Burks (16.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/C Ekpe Udoh (14.0 PER)
76/PF Jonas Jerebko (14.5 PER)
71/PG Raul Neto (13.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
69/SG Royce O’Neale (10.2 PER)
69/C Tony Bradley
70/PG Nate Wolters
RESERVE
68/SF Eric Griffin
75/SF Joe Johnson (8.1 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
73/PG Dante Exum - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Derrick Favors rebounded from a sub-par 2017. He’s shooting a career high 60 TS%, up from last season’s career low of 51%. Also posting his best Assist rate.
2. Sefolosha is having a career year, shooting 62 TS% (41 3PT%), with career best marks of 21 DRB% and a league-leading 3.6 STL%.
3. Burks hasn’t been healthy much the last 4 years, but is having the best season of his career. Career high 56 TS% is up from last season’s career low 50%. Posting his best DRB%, STL%, and easily BLK%, along with the lowest turnover and foul rates of his career.
4. Johnson hasn’t played a ton yet due to injury, but he’s also 36 and has struggled in the minutes he’s gotten. The other backup wings have overperformed which means he’ll be hardpressed to carve a meaningful rotation spot once healthy.
5.As with the rest of the bench, Neto having a career year due to improved shooting.
Sacramento Kings (29th Overall, 29th Offense, 28th Defense)
STARTERS
79/C Zach Randolph (19.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Skal Labissiere (13.8 PER)
74/SF Garrett Temple (10.1 PER)
75/SG George Hill (12.3 PER)
75/PG De’Aaron Fox (10.3 PER)
BENCH
77/C Willie Cauley-Stein (17.2 PER)
75/SF Bogdan Bogdanovic (12.5 PER)
78/SG Buddy Hield (17.2 PER)
73/C Kosta Koufos (14.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
72/SF Justin Jackson (6.8 PER)
69/PG Frank Mason (15.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Vince Carter (4.9 PER) - OVERRATED
70/SF Malachi Richardson (9.0 PER)
RESERVE
69/PF Jakarr Sampson
72/C Georgios Papagiannis
67/PF Jack Cooley
70/PF Harry Giles - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1. Randolph leads the Kings in scoring and rebounding. At 54 TS% he’s shooting it much better than last season (49 TS%)
2. Mason’s production is solid on an otherwise dumpster fire of a team.
3. Age caught up to the 41-year old Carter.
4. Koufos one of those dudes that’s been underrated an entire decade because he plays in small markets.
New York Knicks (14th Overall, 14th Offense, 17th Defense)
STARTERS
83/C Enes Kanter (25.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
91/PF Kristaps Porzingis (24.5 PER) - OVERRATED
79/SF Tim Hardaway Jr (15.3 PER)
77/SG Courtney Lee (15.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PG Jarrett Jack (9.8 PER)
BENCH
73/SF Doug McDermott (10.5 PER)
74/PG Frank Ntilikina (6.1 PER) - OVERRATED
76/C Kyle O'Quinn (18.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PF Lance Thomas (6.5 PER)
73/PF Michael Beasley (12.2 PER)
75/C Willy Hernangomez (16.8 PER)
72/PG Ramon Sessions (7.6 PER)
69/SG Damyean Dotson (9.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
RESERVE
69/SG Ron Baker
74/C Joakim Noah
66/PF Isaiah Hicks
65/C Luke Kornet
TEAM NOTES
1. Porzingis has tailed off a bit since his hot start. He’s shooting only 39% over his last 8 games played.
2. Kanter leads the league in ORB%, ranks 9th in PER (2nd among centers), and 6th in TS%. He averages 14/11 in only 26 MPG. His defense has been much improved, ranking 13th among centers in DRPM (42nd last season).
3. O'Quinn has been underrated for three years now, and his play is the only reason Kanter hasn’t been getting 30 MPG. Rebounding, rim protection, and passing skills are the reasons he's legitimately ahead of Hernangomez on the depth chart.
4. Ntilikina is a good young defender but he's simply not an NBA player on the offensive end and probably won't be for awhile. He’s a terrible shooter and extremely turnover prone.
5. Career-best shooting for Lee: 61 TS% and 45 3PT%
Los Angeles Lakers (26th Overall, 28th Offense, 8th Defense)
STARTERS
80/C Brook Lopez (17.2 PER)
78/PF Larry Nance (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF Brandon Ingram (12.8 PER) - OVERRATED
77/SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (12.3 PER)
75/PG Lonzo Ball (9.8 PER)
BENCH
78/PF Kyle Kuzma (15.6 PER)
79/PG Jordan Clarkson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
77/C Julius Randle (17.2 PER)
70/SF Corey Brewer (8.0 PER)
69/SG Josh Hart (8.3 PER)
73/C Andrew Bogut (11.0 PER)
72/PG Tyler Ennis
68/SG Vander Blue
RESERVE
68/PG Alex Caruso
75/C Ivica Zubac
73/SF Luol Deng
68/C Thomas Bryant
TEAM NOTES
1. Nance has a fantastic motor and leads the Lakers in TS%, ORB%, and STL%
2. Ingram is a below average shooter from pretty much anywhere outside of three feet. Still only 20 years old, he needs more time.
3. Clarkson is posting career bests in TS% and AST%, but has seen his minutes limited by a prodigy who isn’t half as good as D’Angelo Russell.
Orlando Magic (23rd Overall, 17th Offense, 24th Defense)
STARTERS
82/C Nikola Vucevic (19.8 PER)
84/PF Aaron Gordon (20.3 PER)
78/SF Jonathan Simmons (13.5 PER)
81/SG Evan Fournier (16.9 PER)
77/PG Elfrid Payton (17.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
73/C Bismack Biyombo (10.3 PER)
76/PG D.J. Augustin (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PG Shelvin Mack (12.6 PER)
76/C Marreese Speights (14.8 PER)
73/SF Mario Hezonja (8.0 PER)
72/SG Arron Afflalo (2.8 PER) - OVERRATED
69/SF Wesley Iwundu
69/C Khem Birch
RESERVE
67/SF Jamel Artis
73/SF Terrence Ross (10.4 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
71/PF Adreian Payne - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Payton has had quite the turnaround, averaging 14-5-7 on 57% shooting over his last 8 games. He averaged 8-3-6 on 43% over his first 8.
2. Augustin is shooting a career-high 51% from the field (48 3PT%). He is a 40% shooter for his career.
3. The fall of Afflalo from borderline 2014 All-Star in Orlando to 3rd stringer in his return four years later is now complete.
Dallas Mavericks (21st Overall, 24th Offense, 16th Defense)
STARTERS
76/C Dirk Nowitzki (15.6 PER)
71/PF Maxi Kleber (11.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
81/SF Harrison Barnes (15.5 PER)
76/SG Wesley Matthews (10.1 PER)
77/PG Dennis Smith (11.6 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
74/PG Yogi Ferrell (9.7 PER)
77/PG JJ Barea (18.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
72/PF Dwight Powell (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/SG Devin Harris (15.9 PER)
76/C Salah Mejri (19.7 PER)
76/C Nerlens Noel (15.7 PER)
73/C Jeff Withey
66/SG Antonius Cleveland
RESERVE
67/PF Jonathan Motley
72/SF Dorian Finney-Smith - OUT INDEFINITELY
77/PG Seth Curry - OUT INDEFINITELY
69/PF Josh McRoberts - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Maxi Kleber has helped turn the Mavericks season around. They are 5-4 since Kleber entered the starting lineup (compared to 2-13 otherwise). Not a great talent by any stretch, but he’s an NBA player and knows his role.
2. Barea is 5th in the NBA with 43 AST%, and has continued his strong production from last season. He’s one of the league’s better sixth men.
3. Only 20 years old, Dennis Smith still has a ways to go. 47 TS% on 29 USG% is miserable efficiency for a shoot-first guard (compare to 55 TS% on 27 USG% for Barea).
4. Powell has put together some strong games of late. Over his last five he’s averaging 11/6 on 71% shooting in only 20 MPG.
Brooklyn Nets (22nd Overall, 16th Offense, 21st Defense)
STARTERS
75/C Tyler Zeller (16.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
79/PF Rondae Hollis-Jefferson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/SF DeMarre Carroll (15.8 PER) - UNDERRRATED
74/SG Allen Crabbe (12.4 PER)
78/PG Spencer Dinwiddie (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF Caris LeVert (11.1 PER)
73/SG Joe Harris (13.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/PF Quincy Acy (7.0 PER)
74/C Timofey Mozgov (11.7 PER) – OVERRATED
73/C Jahlil Okafor - OUT INDEFINITELY
73/SG Nik Stauskas
72/C Jarrett Allen (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/PG Isaiah Whitehead
RESERVE
68/PF Jacob Wiley
66/PG Yakuba Ouattara
81/PG D'Angelo Russell (19.5 PER) - OUT INDEFINITELY
78/PG Jeremy Lin - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. The Nets don’t have any active 80+ rated players, yet they are 4-6 without D’Angelo Russell, compared to 4-8 with him. One can easily make a case for Dinwiddie, Jefferson, and Carroll to hit that status, what with all the lobbying fans made for Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown. If Marcus Smart played for the Nets he would be their highest rated player and that is simply not an accurate assessment.
2. Mozgov is too turnover prone to really hack it as a starter, and both Zeller and Allen have passed him on the depth chart.
3. Harris (41 3pt%) has outperformed LaVert (28 3pt%) throughout the year due to the disparity between their outside shots.
Denver Nuggets (18th Overall, 7th Offense, 22nd Defense)
STARTERS
89/C Nikola Jokic (24.8 PER)
78/PF Kenneth Faried (19.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/SF Wilson Chandler (9.5 PER) - OVERRATED
79/SG Gary Harris (15.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/PG Jamal Murray (14.0 PER)
BENCH
79/SG Will Barton (17.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PG Emmanuel Mudiay (12.0 PER)
77/C Mason Plumlee (15.0 PER)
73/SG Malik Beasley (9.9 PER)
74/PF Trey Lyles (18.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF Juan Hernangomez (9.7 PER)
74/SF Richard Jefferson
72/PF Darrell Arthur
RESERVE
67/SF Torrey Craig
69/PF Tyler Lydon
68/PG Monte Morris
85/PF Paul Millsap (17.7 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA March
TEAM NOTES
1. 2K gave Millsap the benefit of the doubt, but his production is in line with last season.
2011-2016: 20.4 PER, 56 TS%, 8.0 ORB%, 20.5 DRB%
2017-2018: 17.8 PER, 54 TS%, 5.3 ORB%, 19.2 DRB%
2. Faried is still the same energy/rebound machine he’s always been. 60 TS%, 14 ORB%, he doesn’t need plays run for him in order to produce.
3. Chandler is posting career lows in rebounds and steals. 51 TS% on 14 USG% ain’t cutting it either.
4. Lyles has been producing since Millsap got sidelined. He can play, but Denver simply has a roster crunch.
Indiana Pacers (10th Overall, 6th Offense, 19th Defense)
STARTERS
82/C Myles Turner (17.0 PER) - OVERRATED
78/PF Thaddeus Young (15.3 PER)
77/SF Bojan Bogdanovic (14.8 PER)
86/SG Victor Oladipo (22.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/PG Darren Collison (17.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
75/PG Cory Joseph (12.1 PER)
78/C Domantas Sabonis (18.7 PER)
76/SF Lance Stephenson (12.2 PER)
71/PF T.J. Leaf (10.5 PER)
76/C Al Jefferson (21.6 PER)
68/SF Damien Wilkins
72/PG Joe Young
68/SF Alex Poythress
RESERVE
68/C Ike Anikbogu
74/SG Glenn Robinson - ETA February
68/SG Edmond Sumner - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Last season Oladipo (13.6 PER) looked like he was never going to develop. Now he's an All-Star and the Pacers top player. Career high 59 TS% on 30 USG%, marked improvement as a shooter (44 3pt%, well up from last year's career high 36%), and hard-nosed defense (career-high 2.7 STL% and 2.9 BLK%).
2. Turner is 21 years old and 2K anointed him a little quickly. He's leading the league in BLK% but isn't nearly the offensive player they think he is. He is not a post player you can run the offense through.
3. Career best production for Collison right now, thanks to his 4.3 A/T ratio.
New Orleans Pelicans (16th Overall, 13th Offense, 20th Defense)
STARTERS
91/C DeMarcus Cousins (22.7 PER)
94/PF Anthony Davis (28.6 PER)
74/SF E’Twaun Moore (12.8 PER)
77/SG Jrue Holiday (14.1 PER)
76/PG Rajon Rondo (14.5 PER)
BENCH
71/SF Dante Cunningham (8.3 PER)
73/PG Jameer Nelson (10.5 PER)
72/PF Darius Miller (12.3 PER)
72/SG Ian Clark (6.2 PER)
75/SF Tony Allen (8.3 PER) - OVERRATED
69/PF Cheick Diallo (9.2 PER)
71/C Omer Asik
68/SF Jalen Jones
RESERVE
67/PG Charles Cooke
72/C Alexis Ajinca - OUT INDEFINITELY
70/PG Frank Jackson - ETA January
72/SF Solomon Hill - ETA February
TEAM NOTES
1.Tony Allen lead the league in STL% last season but he has posted by far the worst mark of his career (1.9%) so far this season.
Detroit Pistons (11th Overall, 10th Offense, 10th Defense)
STARTERS
88/C Andre Drummond (22.7 PER)
82/PF Tobias Harris (18.9 PER)
74/SF Stanley Johnson (7.6 PER)
83/SG Avery Bradley (11.8 PER) - OVERRATED
82/PG Reggie Jackson (20.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
76/PG Ish Smith (16.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/PF Anthony Tolliver (12.8 PER)
76/SG Langston Galloway (13.5 PER)
71/SG Luke Kennard (10.8 PER)
67/C Eric Moreland (9.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/SF Reggie Bullock (6.6 PER)
71/C Henry Ellenson
74/C Boban Marjanovic
RESERVE
65/SG Luis Montero
65/PG Dwight Buycks
74/PF Jon Leuer (8.8 PER) - ETA January
TEAM NOTES
1. Jackson’s resurgence is directly responsible for the Pistons improved fortunes, posting a career high 59 TS%.
2. Bradley is measurably worse than last season with a sharp increase in turnovers and the dissipation of his fluke rebounding.
3. Ish Smith is shooting 49% from the field, which is pretty unheard of for a guy who shot 39% from 2011 to 2015.
4. Moreland has proven to be an NBA-caliber rebounder and shot blocker, and is ahead of Marjanovic and Ellenson on the depth chart. In other words, he’s not a G-Leaguer.
Toronto Raptors (3rd Overall, 4th Offense, 9th Defense)
STARTERS
79/C Jonas Valanciunas (18.1 PER)
78/PF Serge Ibaka (14.2 PER)
89/SF DeMar DeRozan (21.8 PER) - OVERRATED
74/SG Norman Powell (12.3 PER)
85/PG Kyle Lowry (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
75/PF Pascal Siakam (14.7 PER)
74/SF OG Anunoby (13.1 PER)
71/PG Fred VanVleet (14.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/SG C.J. Miles (15.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/C Jakob Poetl (21.2 PER)
73/C Lucas Nogueira (17.0 PER)
67/SG Lorenzo Brown
68/SF Alfonzo McKinnie
RESERVE
67/SF Bruno Caboclo
67/SF Malcolm Miller
72/SG Delon Wright (14.9 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Lowry is averaging 20-8-8 on 50% shooting (48 3pt%) over his last 10 games.
2. Wright is the team's sixth man (bench leading 21 mpg). He has been underrated by 2K for three years, given his career 15.7 PER over that stretch.
3. CJ is shooting 41% from three his last two seasons but he also has a career high 2.0 BLK% to his credit. Bench gunners usually don't double as solid defenders.
4. Poetl is recording 68 TS% and 5.2 BLK% which is a marked improvement from last season (59 TS%, 2.8 BLK%)
5. VanVleet is playing the best basketball of his career. Over his last 5 games he’s averaging 11 points and 6 assists (49 FG%) in only 22 MPG.
Houston Rockets (1st Overall, 2nd Offense, 5th Defense)
STARTERS
85/C Clint Capela (26.2 PER) - UNDERRATED
78/PF Ryan Anderson (13.9 PER)
76/SF Trevor Ariza (12.5 PER)
96/SG James Harden (30.8 PER)
90/PG Chris Paul (22.9 PER)
BENCH
81/SG Eric Gordon (14.4 PER) - OVERRATED
76/SF P.J. Tucker (9.5 PER)
75/PF Luc Mbah a Moute (10.3 PER)
77/C Nene (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/C Tarik Black (16.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PG Bobby Brown (3.8 PER)
68/PG Demetrius Jackson
69/C Zhou Qi
RESERVE
71/SF Troy Williams
70/PG Briante Weber
69/C Chinanu Onuaku
TEAM NOTES
1. Capela is 6th in PER thanks to his elite FG% (currently 2nd). His rebound rate skyrocketed this season to 35 DRB%, good for 2nd in the NBA. He’s 5th in Blocks (5.9%) and 8th in ORB% (14.6). He’s the Tyson Chandler that Mike D’Antoni’s teams have always lacked.
2. I’ve seen Gordon get a lot of credit for the Rockets success but he’s shooting 40% from the field, 31% from deep, and doesn’t really bring much beyond his scoring. The Rockets are undefeated when Chris Paul takes the court.
3. Nene is shooting 66% from the field. His FG% progression over the last six years: 48, 50, 51, 54, 62, 66. He has thrived in a bench role over the last few years.
San Antonio Spurs (6th Overall, 16th Offense, 4th Defense)
STARTERS
82/C Pau Gasol (20.3 PER) - UNDERRATED
89/PF LaMarcus Aldridge (25.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
81/SF Rudy Gay (18.7 PER)
76/SG Danny Green (12.3 PER)
77/PG Tony Parker
BENCH
75/PG Patty Mills (12.4 PER)
75/PG DeJounte Murray (12.7 PER)
74/SG Manu Ginobili (10.1 PER)
72/SG Bryn Forbes (10.9 PER)
70/PG Brandon Paul (10.4 PER)
72/PF Davis Bertans (15.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
73/C Joffrey Lauvergne (10.9 PER)
70/SG Derrick White
RESERVE
69/SG Darrun Hilliard
67/PF Matt Costello
95/SF Kawhi Leonard - ETA December
75/SF Kyle Anderson (16.6 PER) - UNDERRATED - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. Aldridge is having a career year whilst carrying the Spurs through injuries to their other players.
2.Gasol is still a fantastic rebounder and post player. He’s hit 50% of his threes since joining the Spurs.
3.Anderson has done an admirable job filling in for Kawhi Leonard. He’s shooting a career best 57 TS% (51 FG%).
Phoenix Suns (28th Overall, 24th Offense, 28th Defense)
STARTERS
76/C Tyson Chandler (16.0 PER)
74/PF Marquese Chriss (10.0 PER)
81/SF T.J. Warren (18.4 PER)
74/SG Josh Jackson (7.9 PER)
74/PG Tyler Ulis (9.8 PER)
BENCH
75/PG Mike James (14.4 PER)
73/PF Dragan Bender (7.2 PER) - OVERRATED
77/C Alex Len (18.0 PER)
72/SG Troy Daniels (9.8 PER)
77/C Greg Monroe (18.4 PER)
74/PF Jared Dudley (15.3 PER)
67/PF Alec Peters
RESERVE
87/SG Devin Booker (19.3 PER) - OVERRATED - ETA December
69/SG Davon Reed - ETA February
75/PF Alan Williams - ETA March
74/PG Brandon Knight - OUT FOR SEASON
67/SF Danuel House
TEAM NOTES
1. Booker ranks 97th in DRPM out of 99 Shooting Guards.
2. Bender is shooting 36% for his career. Only 20 years old, he still has a long way to go.
Oklahoma City Thunder (6th Overall, 21st Offense, 3rd Defense)
STARTERS
83/C Steven Adams (21.5 PER) - UNDERRATED
83/SF Carmelo Anthony (15.6 PER) - OVERRATED
88/SF Paul George (17.4 PER) - OVERRATED
75/SG Andre Roberson (9.7 PER)
92/PG Russell Westbrook (21.5 PER) - OVERRATED
BENCH
75/PF Jerami Grant (15.2 PER)
75/PG Raymond Felton (13.5 PER)
73/SG Alex Abrines (6.6 PER) - OVERRATED
73/C Patrick Patterson (5.4 PER) - OVERRATED
70/PF Josh Huestis (3.6 PER)
70/SG Terrance Ferguson
71/C Dakari Johnson
70/C Nick Collison
RESERVE
66/SG Daniel Hamilton
67/SF Kyle Singler
67/SG P.J. Dozier
TEAM NOTES
1. Last season Westbrook lead the league with 30.6 PER - a nine-point drop is quite harsh. It’s his lowest mark since becoming an All-Star 8 years ago. Last season Westbrook set the NBA record for 41.7 USG%, and that is down to a more acceptable 33%. Yet despite the lighter load, his efficiency has plummeted (50 TS% from 55%). He is shooting it the worst he’s ever shot it from 3-23 feet.
2. Carmelo Anthony is having the worst season of his career, and has completely fallen apart over the last two seasons. He was lucky to be an All-Star last season, and is certainly not at that level now. His efficiency continues to drop despite a progressively decreasing volume.
3. Unlike Melo, Paul George is in the prime of his career and struggling to put it together. He’s shooting 32% from 3-23 feet, compared to 46% last season.
4. Steven Adams defense and hustle is largely the only thing that has kept OKC from being a dumpster fire. His TS% is through the roof and he’s posting the best ORB% and STL% of his career.
5. The Big 3 might be struggling but Jerami Grant has put together the best shooting year of his career.
6. Abrines is shooting 38% (31 3pt%) and isn’t exactly a great defender either.
7. Patterson is shooting 33% from the field. Quick reminder that he shot 56% in his first pro season. This is easily the worst rebounding year of his career even though he’s logging most of his minutes at center.
Minnesota Timberwolves (15th Overall, 5th Offense, 27th Defense)
STARTERS
89/C Karl-Anthony Towns (21.7 PER) - OVERRATED
77/PF Taj Gibson (15.3 PER)
88/SF Jimmy Butler (19.5 PER) - OVERRATED
83/SG Andrew Wiggins (14.4 PER) - OVERRATED
79/PG Jeff Teague (15.6 PER)
BENCH
72/PG Tyus Jones (13.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
76/SG Jamal Crawford (13.6 PER)
76/C Gorgui Dieng (16.8 PER)
76/PF Nemanja Bjelica (18.2 PER)
73/SF Shabazz Muhammad (9.1 PER)
73/PG Aaron Brooks
67/SG Marcus Georges-Hunt
72/C Cole Aldrich
RESERVE
70/SF Anthony Brown
70/C Justin Patton - OUT INDEFINITELY
TEAM NOTES
1. Towns has taken a step backwards this season. He isn’t going to move forward until he makes a commitment to defense. Towns has ranked last among all centers in DRPM over the last two seasons.
2. Butler is playing better after a rough start (having scored 30 in back-to-back games), but he still isn’t close (55 TS% on 23 USG%) to the player he was with the Bulls last season (59 TS% on 27 USG%).
3. Wiggins hasn’t improved over the last three years and it’s mind-boggling why he was ever given an OVR this high in the first place.
4. Jones has proven to be a solid backup, ranking 7th in the NBA in STL%. Let us not forget how crazy 2K went for Frank Ntlitkina, who is garbage by comparison.
Portland Trail Blazers (13th Overall, 21st Offense, 3rd Defense)
STARTERS
79/C Jusuf Nurkic (15.0 PER)
75/PF Al-Farouq Aminu (14.0 PER)
73/SF Maurice Harkless (8.5 PER)
85/SG C.J. McCollum (16.3 PER) - OVERRATED
89/PG Damian Lillard (23.8 PER) - UNDERRATED
BENCH
74/SF Evan Turner (7.8 PER)
74/SG Pat Connaughton (10.4 PER)
75/C Ed Davis (14.9 PER)
74/PF Noah Vonleh (12.6 PER)
76/PG Shabazz Napier (18.0 PER)
70/PF Caleb Swanigan (7.0 PER)
70/C Meyers Leonard
69/PF Jake Layman
RESERVE
71/C Zach Collins
69/PG Wade Baldwin
67/SG C.J. Wilcox - ETA December
TEAM NOTES
1. The biggest difference between Lillard and Steph Curry at this point is the quality of their teammates.
2. McCollum’s efficiency has dropped - he’s hitting a career low 44% of his twos.
Golden State Warriors (2nd Overall, 1st Offense, 7th Defense)
STARTERS
76/C Zaza Pachulia (15.7 PER) - UNDERRATED
88/PF Draymond Green (16.6 PER) - OVERRATED
96/SF Kevin Durant (23.2 PER) - OVERRATED
90/SG Klay Thompson (18.6 PER) - OVERRATED
95/PG Stephen Curry (27.5 PER)
BENCH
78/SF Andre Iguodala (11.6 PER) - OVERRATED
75/PG Shaun Livingston (11.0 PER)
75/SG Nick Young (13.7 PER)
73/SG Patrick McCaw (11.8 PER)
74/SF Omri Casspi (16.4 PER) - UNDERRATED
74/PF David West (25.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
75/PF Jordan Bell (22.9 PER) - UNDERRATED
70/PF Kevon Looney (12.6 PER) - UNDERRATED
RESERVE
76/C JaVale McGee (20.1 PER)
69/PG Quinn Cook
70/C Damian Jones
66/PF Chris Boucher
TEAM NOTES
1. Zaza is a very underrated defender which is why he continues to start over flashier players like McGee.
2. Draymond is versatile, but not a great offensive player. He is a mediocre shooter (31 3pt% over the last two seasons) and isn’t a post-up threat (0.50 PPP, 2nd percentile).
3. Durant’s rebounding is back to normal (18 DRB%) after a career high there (23 DRB%) last season. His turnovers are also up (a mediocre 1.4 A/T, down from last season’s 2.2). All in all he’s had better seasons and his rating should presently not reflect “2nd best player in the NBA”.
4. Klay has been overrated for a couple years now. He doesn’t create his own shot, doesn’t make his teammates better, and 2K has gifted him a 90 for awhile. Compare him to any other 90+ rated player and it quickly folds.
5. Iguodala is 34 years old and consequently having the worst season of his career. His TS% dropped 71 points (shooting 27% from three) and is recording career lows in the following: 10.0 DRB%, 1.1 STL%, and 10.7 USG%.
6. West is shooting 67% from the field (69 TS%; last year 57%) and has 26 blocks in 274 minutes (absurd 7.6 BLK%). Two years ago he had 55 blocks in 1400 minutes.
7. Casspi career highs: 67 TS% (last year 53%), 24 DRB% (last year 15%), 2.9 BLK% (last year 0.4%).
8. Looney’s overall production indicates he is better than your average 70 OVR who is clinging to the league. Career numbers: 59 TS% on 13 USG%, 11.6 ORB%, 18.5 DRB%, 3.9 BLK%. He’s 21.
9. Bell is likewise another player who would be playing regularly if he played for a team that wasn’t the Warriors.
Washington Wizards (12th Overall, 8th Offense, 11th Defense)
STARTERS
78/C Marcin Gortat (15.0 PER)
76/PF Markieff Morris (10.8 PER) - OVERRATED
84/SF Otto Porter (19.2 PER)
88/SG Bradley Beal (19.8 PER) - OVERRATED
73/PG Tim Frazier (10.9 PER)
BENCH
75/SF Kelly Oubre (13.6 PER)
73/SG Jodie Meeks (11.6 PER)
73/PF Mike Scott (13.1 PER)
71/C Ian Mahinmi (7.9 PER)
72/PG Tomas Satoransky (16.1 PER) - UNDERRATED
71/C Jason Smith
69/PF Chris McCullough
RESERVE
66/PF Michael Young
67/SF Devin Robinson
90/PG John Wall (21.9 PER) - ETA December
68/SG Sheldon Mac - OUT FOR SEASON
TEAM NOTES
1. Beal just exploded for 51 points against Portland but he also combined for 50 points (49 shots) over the four games that came prior. Not exactly elevating his game with the real star out of the lineup.
2. Morris is probably never going back to the player he was with Phoenix four years ago. and has been losing time to Oubre.
3. Satoransky has played very well in Wall’s absense, and it would not surprise to see him pass Frazier in the rotation when Wall returns.
When you make super long posts like this, you should spoiler it. Makes browsing much easier.
"BRB gotta puff my chest out touting a stat (Plus-Minus) I've (now repeatedly) displayed limited comprehension of"
Still waiting for you to find me a good player who's repeatedly hinders his teams performance.
"BRB sticking my head in the sand and acting like simple plus/minus outed DeMarcus Cousins"
You know, the stat that Eric Gordon ranks 3rd in the NBA? Where Trevor Ariza ranks higher than Kevin Durant? Fred Van Vleet 17th? Marc Gasol roughly 400th?
That one.
I offered an explanation with regard to +/- variables (which are widely known, hence why RPM got developed oohhhhhh FIVE YEARS AGO ALREADY, welcome to 2017), but sure, dismiss that cuz your knowledge on the topic is so vast.
Your "argument" doesn't even make sense. Like what the **** are you saying, let's drop DeMarcus Cousins to 77 OVR? Because one measurement tool said so?
THEN this clown has the audacity to say
PER is an aggregate rating based on statistical production measurements like shooting percentage, rebound rate, etc, which - GET THIS - are exactly how 2K generates numerous attributes.... remind me again which attribute is governed by "Plus-Minus"? Was it "Free-Throw"?
Bye Felicia
(Reminder: Cousins ranks 5th in the NBA in Real Plus-Minus)
I like how you intentionally avoid my questions because I challenge. I guess a bit of challenge is not for everyone. So here, a bit of pat on the back
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*Munches on Goldfish*
Post like this don't make it better.
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I'm also quite interested to see what OVR rating would he give Bruce Bowen based on his PER numbers as well as Tony Allen.
As per wikipedia PER is based on following:
MY COMPARISION IS IN BLUE AND BOLDED
Los Angeles Lakers (26th Overall, 28th Offense, 8th Defense)
STARTERS
80/C Brook Lopez (17.2 PER) -
78/PF Larry Nance (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED -
78/SF Brandon Ingram (12.8 PER) - OVERRATED -
77/SG Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (12.3 PER) -
75/PG Lonzo Ball (9.8 PER) -
BENCH
78/PF Kyle Kuzma (15.6 PER) -
79/PG Jordan Clarkson (18.0 PER) - UNDERRATED -
77/C Julius Randle (17.2 PER) -
70/SF Corey Brewer (8.0 PER)
69/SG Josh Hart (8.3 PER) -
73/C Andrew Bogut (11.0 PER)
72/PG Tyler Ennis
68/SG Vander Blue
RESERVE
68/PG Alex Caruso
75/C Ivica Zubac -
73/SF Luol Deng
68/C Thomas Bryant
The ones who I did not touch is because they are irrelevant and to be out of league in one to two seasons or did not appear in enough 2018 NBA games.
They'll get respect when they perform better in the playoffs.
So I guess they have to play as well as how Milwaukee, Philly, Minny, etc are performing in the playoffs the last few years? Anyways, Raptors are currently ranked 12 overall in NBA2K18. That is a pretty bad bias.
I don't think that's how it works lol
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Kristaps Porzingis
88 Overall (-3)
Position: PF
2nd Pos: C
Archetype: Crafty Inside-Outside Threat (From Rebounding Scoring Machine)
(Right off the bat I knew something was wrong)
OFFENSE
84 Standing Layup (-12)
75 Driving Layup (-3)
90 Post Fade (+5)
80 Post Hook (-5)
90 Post Control (+2)
75 Draw Foul (-10)
94 Shot Close (-3)
83 Open Shot Mid (-14)
75 Off-Dribble Mid (+1)
83 Contested Mid (-9)
87 Open Shot 3pt
67 Off-Dribble 3pt (+2)
85 Contested 3pt
84 Free Throw (+2)
65 Ball Control
47 Pass Vision (+14)
45 Pass IQ (+5)
50 Pass Accuracy
47 Offensive Rebound (-5)
80 Standing Dunk (-10)
70 Driving Dunk (-5)
40 Contact Dunk
99 Shot IQ (+1)
90 Hands (+1)
DEFENSE
72 Defensive Rebound (-16)
94 Block (+4)
90 Shot Contest (+2)
53 Steal (-2)
70 On-Ball Defense (+4)
80 Low Post Defense (+2)
75 Reaction Time
ATHLETICISM
72 Boxout (-18)
70 Lateral Quickness (+1)
70 Speed (-2)
60 Ball Speed
70 Acceleration (+1)
75 Vertical (-3)
60 Strength (+10)
87 Stamina (-7)
70 Hustle (-15)
80 Durability
INTANGIBLES
65 Pass Perception (+5)
70 Defensive Consistency
75 Pick & Roll Defense (+3)
80 Help Defense (-7)
90 Offensive Consistency (-8)
99 Intangibles (+1)
92 Potential
Kristaps Porzingis
88 Overall (-3)
Position: PF
2nd Pos: C
Archetype: Crafty Inside-Outside Threat (From Rebounding Scoring Machine)
(Right off the bat I knew something was wrong)
OFFENSE
84 Standing Layup (-12)
75 Driving Layup (-3)
90 Post Fade (+5)
80 Post Hook (-5)
90 Post Control (+2)
75 Draw Foul (-10)
94 Shot Close (-3)
83 Open Shot Mid (-14)
75 Off-Dribble Mid (+1)
83 Contested Mid (-9)
87 Open Shot 3pt
67 Off-Dribble 3pt (+2)
85 Contested 3pt
84 Free Throw (+2)
65 Ball Control
47 Pass Vision (+14)
45 Pass IQ (+5)
50 Pass Accuracy
47 Offensive Rebound (-5)
80 Standing Dunk (-10)
70 Driving Dunk (-5)
40 Contact Dunk
99 Shot IQ (+1)
90 Hands (+1)
DEFENSE
72 Defensive Rebound (-16)
94 Block (+4)
90 Shot Contest (+2)
53 Steal (-2)
70 On-Ball Defense (+4)
80 Low Post Defense (+2)
75 Reaction Time
ATHLETICISM
72 Boxout (-18)
70 Lateral Quickness (+1)
70 Speed (-2)
60 Ball Speed
70 Acceleration (+1)
75 Vertical (-3)
60 Strength (+10)
87 Stamina (-7)
70 Hustle (-15)
80 Durability
INTANGIBLES
65 Pass Perception (+5)
70 Defensive Consistency
75 Pick & Roll Defense (+3)
80 Help Defense (-7)
90 Offensive Consistency (-8)
99 Intangibles (+1)
92 Potential
I think there is any problems with the above. But I'd love to see it in action under my control.
Only team in the east to beat the cavs more than once the part two years in the post season.
They;be done their job..ecf and 2nd round last season but can’t beat the cavs just like the Celtics/wiz/bucks/pistons.
So why are they slighted when the rest are not.
Don’t forget 3rd best offense and a top 10 Defense.
Yet their best shooter and player in Lowry who by advanced metrics is a top 15 player is never rated properly on this game,
The entire bench is underrated. I always thought it was a bias on behalf of 2k/beds glad others can see it.
They;be done their job..ecf and 2nd round last season but can’t beat the cavs just like the Celtics/wiz/bucks/pistons.
So why are they slighted when the rest are not.
Stats might say otherwise but watching the games, Biyombo is who caused the Cavs a ton of issues which turned the tide for 2 games. He turned into prime mutumbo and was not allowing anything near the rim at all while grabbing every rebound. That's the only reason Orlando gave him that fat contract. They got swept easily last year.
Lowry is a good player but his reputation is not well atm because of the playoff failures year after year. It felt as if they somehow dragged (fluked) their way into the conference finals where everyone was making a joke out of them after being blown out the first 2 games. Every game Toronto lost that series was a double digit beatdown.
Lowry is a good player but his reputation is not well atm because of the playoff failures year after year.
Could you remind us what Lowry did in games 3 and 4 of that series?
Not that basing a 2018 season rating on the super sample size of eight 2017 playoff games makes any sense or anything
Not that basing a 2018 season rating on the super sample size of eight 2017 playoff games makes any sense or anything
You mean the last series where the games were a lot closer when he left because of injury or the 2016 playoffs when he fed off of Biyombo's excellent play for 2 games?
I've been rooting for him since his Memphis days but he has to step up come playoff time. I'm tired of the injury excuses every year when the playoffs roll around. Almost no one is 100% but his fans use this as an excuse for inconsistent play.
None of the teams Toronto beat should've pushed the Raptors as far as they did. I honestly can't remember when was the last time they had an easy series.
Game 1 w/ Lowry: 11-point loss
Game 2 w/ Lowry: 22-point loss
Game 3 w/o Lowry: 21-point loss
Game 4 w/o Lowry: 7-point loss
Stop talking. Revisionist history isn't your forte.
Re-read this in front of a mirror, making eye contact, without hearing your voice crack.
Which has what to do with a player's rating in the year 2018 season rating? It ain't like DeRozan had a good playoff (yet mum seems to be the word there eh?).
Game 2 w/ Lowry: 22-point loss
Game 3 w/o Lowry: 21-point loss
Game 4 w/o Lowry: 7-point loss
Stop talking. Revisionist history isn't your forte.
Re-read this in front of a mirror, making eye contact, without hearing your voice crack.
Which has what to do with a player's rating in the year 2018 season rating? It ain't like DeRozan had a good playoff (yet mum seems to be the word there eh?).
Instead of telling others to stop talking why don't you do that yourself. Make a Blog in Your arena or your OWN thread with your "Expert knowledge" . Stop hijacking the roster update threads. Your disrespect towards community members is unwarranted and unwanted and it derails every thread you post in.
Robert Covington - *Position Change to SF/PF
J.J. Redick - *Position Change to SG/SF
Amir Johnson - *Position Change to C/PF
Justin Anderson - *Position Change to SF/PF
Timothe Luwawu -*Position Change to SF/SG
Jerryd Bayless - * Position Change to SG/PG
Milwaukee Bucks
Tony Snell - Position change to SG/SF
Khris Middleton - Position change to SF/SG
Cleveland Cavaliers
Channing Frye - * Position change to C/None
Cedi Osman - * Position change to SF/SG
Dwyane Wade - * Position change to PG/SG
Jeff Green - * Position change to PF/SF
Boston Celtics
Marcus Morris - *Position Change to PF/SF
Guerschon Yabusele - *Position Change to C/PF
LA Clippers
Jamil Wilson - *Position Change to PF/SF
Memphis Grizzlies
Chandler Parsons - * Position change to PF/SF
Miami Heat
James Johnson - * Position change to PF/C
Justise Winslow - * Position change to PF/SF
Rodney McGruder - * Position change to SF/SG
Okaro White - * Position Change to PF/None
Tyler Johnson - * Position Change to PG/SG
Charlotte Hornets
Malik Monk - * Position Change to PG/SG
Nicolas Batum - *Position Change to SG/SF
Treveon Graham - *Position Change to SF/SG
Mongok Mathiang - * Position Change to C/None
Sacramento Kings
Jakarr Sampson - * Position Change to PF/SF
Jack Cooley - * Position Change to C/None
Orlando Magic
Jonathan Simmons - * Position change to SF/SG
Mario Hezonja - * Position change to SF/SG
Jonathan Isaac - * Position change to PF/SF
Dallas Mavericks
Devin Harris - *Position Change to SG/PG
Dirk Nowitzki - *Position Change to C/PF
Brooklyn Nets
Rondae Hollis Jefferson - * Position change to PF/SF
Caris LeVert - * Position change to SF/SG
Jahlil Okafor - * Position Change to C/None
New Orleans Pelicans
Jrue Holiday - * Position Change to SG/PG
Tony Allen - * Position Change to SF/SG
Chieck Diallo - * Position Change to PF/C
Etwaun Moore - * Position Change to SF/SG
Detroit Pistons
Eric Moreland - * Position change to C/None
Houston Rockets
Chinanu Onuaku - *Position Change to C/None
Nene - *Position Change to C/None
Phoenix Suns
Alan Williams - * Position Change to C/None
Oklahoma City Thunder
Carmelo Anthony - *Position change to PF/SF
Terrance Ferguson - *Position Change to SG/SF
Golden State Warriors
Kevon Looney - * Position Change to C/PF
David West - * Position Change to C/None
Nick Young - * Position change to SG/SF
Patrick McCaw - *Position Change to SG/PG
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Game 2 w/ Lowry: 22-point loss
Game 3 w/o Lowry: 21-point loss
Game 4 w/o Lowry: 7-point loss
Stop talking. Revisionist history isn't your forte.
Re-read this in front of a mirror, making eye contact, without hearing your voice crack.
Which has what to do with a player's rating in the year 2018 season rating? It ain't like DeRozan had a good playoff (yet mum seems to be the word there eh?).
Yeah because using end of game difference will determine how the entire game went. In game 3 they were close for 3 quarters and then they blew it open in the 4th.
Game 4 was close the entire time because Casey finally put PJ Tucker in the starting lineup and put ibaka at center if I can remember correctly.
I can tell you don't socialize much. We can go there if you want so go ahead and I'll show you how to really insult.
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I've said it many times. Most of the times these thread don't survive because people are not open minded to other peoples ideas.
I went home and tired your KP ratings. But I didn't get to play any games to really test him out. But it's some like that. I want to see what your talking about. But I actually think KP is good where he's at. I think the problem with your ratings for KP is that a contested shot in 2k can effect even a 7-3 player.
Game 4 was close the entire time because Casey finally put PJ Tucker in the starting lineup and put ibaka at center if I can remember correctly.
ALL OF WHICH HAS WHAT TO DO WITH A 2018 RATING
By all means, feel free to make it personal if that will make you feel better. I attacked your weak argument, not your character.
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The guy basically asked what does it take for Lowry to get respect in the game and I simply answered what is MY OPINION. Get over yourself.
Maybe if you weren't such a douche you would have been working with 2K but guess what? Beds got the job, not you. How do you feel about that? To know you been doing this for years and some new person got what should be YOUR job. Tell me how the view is from outside.
I've said this before, and I'll say it again.
Beds is doing a better job with 2K than I would have.
Feel better yet?
Beds is doing a better job with 2K than I would have.
Feel better yet?
At least you're honest.
Question... How much higher does Dipo need to get to?
Question... How much higher does Dipo need to get to?
I'd have to see his individual ratings to comment, but he has to be the MIP this year. He's playing like a 90 rated player and he seems to have all the confidence in the world.
Question... How much higher does Dipo need to get to?
I think 86 is solid, I wouldn't want him any higher than 88.
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If he was more open to discussion maybe. You can practically make a locked thread for him so only he can post his opinions because he thinks that PER is end-all-be-all for OVR rating and can't take criticism from anyone challenging his views.:splat: Which is why he is ignoring me and my posts where I actually post and link to sites where I put a proof towards my opinion.
Been roster editing for 24 hours. Quick edit is a total godsend, I'm probably 5-10x faster now than ever before.
One thing that's clear (and doubles-down on why 2K doesn't doesn't change player positions often): the Power Forward OVR formula 100% needs to be reworked. This was true 5-10 years ago as PFs were becoming more perimeter oriented, and now in the present day 2K is on the verge of getting DUSTED.
Like IIRC last year Rondae Hollis-Jefferson was a 75 OVR but dropped to 69 OVR if you changed his position to PF. Basically every SF drops heavily in rating because 2K puts way too much weight on rebounding.
One of the most frustrating things a few years ago that was a deal breaker for me as a roster editor: I had Thomas Robinson rated higher than Al Horford. Obviously I did not think Robinson was a better player -it just shows how much weight 2K was giving rebounding. This ain't 1990, where teams were playing TWO Power Forwards next to their center (New York's SFs for the decade: Charles Smith, Anthony Mason, and Larry Johnson). Charles Oakley and Dennis Rodman aren't walking through that door. 20/10 PFs like Karl Malone and Charles Barkley who don't log any time at center flat out don't exist. Being a great rebounder is less important than ever for a modern PF . We've heard the term "positionless basketball" and it stems directly from how versatile your team's PF is.
There's no reason that when you change LeBron/Giannis to PF (players having CAREER YEARS playing PF) that their OVR immediately drops 5 points. LeBron already has maxed out ratings in most respects.
If NBA Power Forwards are becoming more perimeter oriented than ever than it goes without saying that the formula needs to shift in that direction also. This should have been done a long time ago but instead it's starting to look like we'll be in the year 2020 with the Intangibles rating acting as a band-aid for an entire position's ratings.
Starting PFs that used to be SFs: Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James, Marcus Morris, Justise Winslow, Marvin Williams, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Aaron Gordon, Tobias Harris, Carmelo Anthony, Al-Farouq Aminu. Call it the Draymond Green effect.
Backup PFs that used to be SFs: Jeff Green, Chandler Parsons, James Johnson, Michael Beasley, Darius Miller, Luc Mbah a Moute, Rudy Gay, Jerami Grant. It ain't like we've been in the dark about this trend, it's been documented that this is the direction the league has been heading.
LeBron at
PG: 95
SG: 98
SF: 98
PF: 93
C: 92
Such a drop-off makes no sense. It's clear that LeBron's skillset is HIGHLY desired at PF.
One thing that's clear (and doubles-down on why 2K doesn't doesn't change player positions often): the Power Forward OVR formula 100% needs to be reworked. This was true 5-10 years ago as PFs were becoming more perimeter oriented, and now in the present day 2K is on the verge of getting DUSTED.
Like IIRC last year Rondae Hollis-Jefferson was a 75 OVR but dropped to 69 OVR if you changed his position to PF. Basically every SF drops heavily in rating because 2K puts way too much weight on rebounding.
One of the most frustrating things a few years ago that was a deal breaker for me as a roster editor: I had Thomas Robinson rated higher than Al Horford. Obviously I did not think Robinson was a better player -it just shows how much weight 2K was giving rebounding. This ain't 1990, where teams were playing TWO Power Forwards next to their center (New York's SFs for the decade: Charles Smith, Anthony Mason, and Larry Johnson). Charles Oakley and Dennis Rodman aren't walking through that door. 20/10 PFs like Karl Malone and Charles Barkley who don't log any time at center flat out don't exist. Being a great rebounder is less important than ever for a modern PF . We've heard the term "positionless basketball" and it stems directly from how versatile your team's PF is.
There's no reason that when you change LeBron/Giannis to PF (players having CAREER YEARS playing PF) that their OVR immediately drops 5 points. LeBron already has maxed out ratings in most respects.
If NBA Power Forwards are becoming more perimeter oriented than ever than it goes without saying that the formula needs to shift in that direction also. This should have been done a long time ago but instead it's starting to look like we'll be in the year 2020 with the Intangibles rating acting as a band-aid for an entire position's ratings.
Starting PFs that used to be SFs: Giannis Antetokounmpo, LeBron James, Marcus Morris, Justise Winslow, Marvin Williams, Rondae Hollis-Jefferson, Aaron Gordon, Tobias Harris, Carmelo Anthony, Al-Farouq Aminu. Call it the Draymond Green effect.
Backup PFs that used to be SFs: Jeff Green, Chandler Parsons, James Johnson, Michael Beasley, Darius Miller, Luc Mbah a Moute, Rudy Gay, Jerami Grant. It ain't like we've been in the dark about this trend, it's been documented that this is the direction the league has been heading.
LeBron at
PG: 95
SG: 98
SF: 98
PF: 93
C: 92
Such a drop-off makes no sense. It's clear that LeBron's skillset is HIGHLY desired at PF.
I agree with most of the analysis you provide but you gotta work on that attitude man. This is excellent work. This is what I come here for.
Dario Saric: 8 / 17
Marcus Morris: 2 / 22
Giannis Antetokounmpo: 7 / 27
Lauri Markkanen: 4 / 26
LeBron James: 4 / 20
Blake Griffin: 4 / 21
JaMychal Green: 7 / 17
Ersan Ilyasova: 7 / 18
Justise Winslow: 5 /22
Marvin Williams: 4 / 14
Derrick Favors: 9 / 18
Zach Randolph: 7 / 25
Kristaps Porzingis: 4 / 19
Larry Nance: 11 / 19
Aaron Gordon: 5 / 21
Maxi Kleber: 7 / 15
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 5 / 17
Paul Millsap: 6 / 18
Thaddeus Young: 7 / 13
Anthony Davis: 8 / 26
Tobias Harris: 3 / 15
Ryan Anderson: 5 / 16
Serge Ibaka: 3 / 20
LaMarcus Aldridge: 11 / 16
Marquese Chriss: 5 / 20
Carmelo Anthony: 3 / 20
Taj Gibson: 10 / 20
Al-Farouq Aminu: 5 / 21
Draymond Green: 4 / 23
Markieff Morris: 5 / 16
OFFENSIVE REBOUNDING
The 30 Starting PFs average out to 7.0 ORB% (approx). Effectively a 60 ORB Rating.
Only three PFs have 10+ ORB%.
Only Taj Gibson has a 10/20 Off/Def split (the last of a dying breed, though Nance is close)
DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING
The 30 Starting PFs average out to 19.4 DRB% (approx). Effectively a 74 DRB Rating.
Only three PFs exceed 25 DRB%. A far cry from 10 years ago when Kevin Garnett lead the league in DRB,
In fact, looking at the league leaders from 2007
1. Kevin Garnett (31%)
3. Carlos Boozer (30%)
5. David Lee (28%)
10. Zach Randolph (26%)
12. Chris Bosh (25%)
16. Pau Gasol (24%)
19. Dirk Nowitzki (24%)
20. Lamar Odom (24%)
Compare to the top 20 of today
17. Giannis Antetokounmpo (27%)
19. Anthony Davis (26%)
20. Lauri Markkanen (26%)
There are sixteen centers ahead of the best rebounding PF (who converted from SF less than a year ago), which serves to illustrate that rebounding is largely a center's responsibility nowadays.
More over, Carlos Boozer and David Lee would not be highly desired players in today's NBA. With few exceptions that archetype has ceased to exist, yet are valued quite highly by 2K in the virtual world.
Elite rebounding simply isn't asked of the modern PF. In many respects the position shouldn't even really have "Power" in the name anymore.
Inside Scoring: A+
Mid-Range Scoring: A-
3PT Scoring: A
Playmaking: A+
Perimeter Defense: A+
Post Defense: A
Rebounding: B-
Athleticism: A+
Basketball IQ: A+
Anthony Davis (94 OVR)
Inside Scoring: A+
Mid-Range Scoring: B
3PT Scoring: B-
Playmaking: C+
Perimeter Defense: B
Post Defense: A-
Rebounding: A
Athleticism: A-
Basketball IQ: A
Hmm. Tough choice!
Giannis Antetokounmpo (90 OVR)
Inside Scoring: A+
Mid-Range Scoring: B-
3PT Scoring: C
Playmaking: A-
Perimeter Defense: A
Post Defense: C+
Rebounding: B+
Athleticism: A+
Basketball IQ: A
Kristaps Porzingis (91 OVR)
Inside Scoring: A
Mid-Range Scoring: A+
3PT Scoring: A-
Playmaking: D+
Perimeter Defense: C-
Post Defense: B-
Rebounding: B+
Athleticism: C+
Basketball IQ: B
As an aside, if 2K would finally fix their formula, maybe they wouldn't have to lie about players like Porzingis being good rebounders to get their OVR high. This isn't a new practice. They did the same thing with Dirk Nowitzki for the last decade and a half. Porzingis' rebounding is right there with LeBron's in terms of mediocrity.
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This please. He has entire pages of this thread with these posts.
Is there anywho with twitter account to send a twit to beds?
Is there anywho with twitter account to send a twit to beds?
I actually tweet him here and there. You got to be-careful though. It' better to state your case here. On twitter other users are following. And they jump in and high jack the topic with off topic things like my park. And why can't this card be this way. So just remember Beds is always watching and listening in here. He just can't comment on everything.
Beds, if you're out there, make Embiid better overall.
He shot 14-26. THe game before that 10/23. The game before that’s 10/25 . The game before that 8/19 . Not to bad but most people would have a fit if FG% was lowered lol
How do you even balance him in the game
This.
There's no coincidence that I was the only one complaining about Baynes strength rating and then it was fixed in the following roster update.
Lowry is a good player but his reputation is not well atm because of the playoff failures year after year. It felt as if they somehow dragged (fluked) their way into the conference finals where everyone was making a joke out of them after being blown out the first 2 games. Every game Toronto lost that series was a double digit beatdown.
the cavs have been doing that to the east during their playoff runs the last 3 years tho. i dont wanna really argue that playoff narrative especially when it doesnt apply to james harden or cp3 as their teams have just as much playoff success as the raptors do.
all i wanna know is why is lowrys play or the team in general for that matter isnt properly reflected in this game. a top 3 offense..top 9 defense. they have been both a top 10 off/def the past 4 seasons yet teams like the pelicans who have a front court with no playoff success is rated higher?
how so hes a top 15-20 player by every metric and his team just wins 50 games every year.
playoff success stuff gotta go out the window if chris paul/harden ratings never drop.
playoff success stuff gotta go out the window if chris paul/harden ratings never drop.
He's an 85 overall now.
Which PG rated above him is Kyle Lowry better than?
Only ask8ng because if not, then I’m just gonna go ahead and start my franchise with the less-than-adequate rosters 2k has provided.
Only ask8ng because if not, then I’m just gonna go ahead and start my franchise with the less-than-adequate rosters 2k has provided.
I'm adjusting daily so far. Right now it's mostly fine tuning and playing a bit of catch up.
Rather than editing one player at a time Quick Edit mode has allowed me to focus down specific attributes. For example I edited Post Control for the whole NBA today.
It's certainly not a finished product but if I kept this pace for two weeks I'd probably be 100% caught-up.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Rather than editing one player at a time Quick Edit mode has allowed me to focus down specific attributes. For example I edited Post Control for the whole NBA today.
It's certainly not a finished product but if I kept this pace for two weeks I'd probably be 100% caught-up.
Any suggestions are welcome.
Awesome. Have you seen the YouTube video on how to fix the Warriors? Any thought on fixing some teams of the amount of 3’s some teams are taking now?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fu0KY6tRQ_E
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fu0KY6tRQ_E
Haven't seen the video, watching now.
At the part where he's changing tendencies. He is suggesting Shot tendency changes but as I understand it that tendency has no affect on gameplay (its for simulation). The Touch tendency is important but it's funny that he's recommending changes for both. It just goes to show that
A. There's a lot of misinformation out there.
B. The community testing that happens is often subjective/unscientific.
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That is something else I am well aware of. The vid is so old Durant isn't on the team (which obviously makes the whole thing null and void).
The way 2K approaches Touch tendency (so that it doesn't break the moment there is a trade) is players have tiers.
Teams with no 90+ Touch player
Pacers: Oladipo (85), Jefferson (80), Collison/Stephenson (75), Turner (70)
Jazz: Rubio/Mitchell/Hood (80), Burks/Johnson (70)
Bulls: Holiday/LaVine (75), Markkanen/Portis (70)
If any of those teams pick up a star player in the future the game won't break and give a disproportionate number of plays to a guy that doesn't deserve them.
At least in theory. Just glancing over this I see Dennis Schroder w/ 97 Touch (next on Hawks is 70) but everyone else seems to jive. You can probably argue Oladipo can go up to a 90 Touch due to his breakout (as it is doubtful he reverts to a low-usage role moving forward).
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Warriors: Durant/Curry (95), Thompson (90), Green/Livingston (75), Young (70)
The Warriors are fine with that hierarchy.
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Thunder: Melo (94), Westbrook (93), George (90), Felton (60), Adams/Patterson/Grant (55)
OKC might be a spot where a tweak makes sense
Usage Rates
34% Westbrook
25% George
25% Melo
19% Felton
17% Adams
16% Grant
13% Abrines
13% Huestis
10% Ferguson
10% Patterson
9% Roberson
Westbrook is obviously the alpha on that team and Melo is looking like a secondary guy (or lower) for the rest of his career. While less obviously, Patterson has been a low-usage player since leaving the Rockets 5 years ago.
Of note: 30 is the bottom of 2K's scale here.
35: Andre Roberson, Cole Aldrich, Jason Smith, Danuel House, Dante Cunningham, Andrew Bogut, Ante Zizic
30: Nick Collison, Omer Asik
CHARLOTTE HORNETS
87/PG (NC) Kemba Walker: Offensive Superstar (from All-Around Point Guard)
82/C (+2) Dwight Howard: Elite Paint Protector
79/SG (NC) Jeremy Lamb: Premier Perimeter Threat
79/C (+2) Cody Zeller: Tenacious Rebounder (from Interior Defender)
78/SG (NC) Nicolas Batum: Perimeter Defender (from Two-Way Wing)
77/SF (+2) Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: Lockdown Defender
76/PF (NC) Marvin Williams: Faceup Four
73/PF (-3) Frank Kaminsky: Offensive-Minded Four (from Low Post Threat)
72/SF (+3) Treveon Graham: Perimeter Threat
72/SG (-1) Malik Monk: Aggressive Scorer
71/PG (NC) Michael Carter-Williams: Perimeter Defender (from Crafty Playmaker)
71/SG (+1) Julyan Stone: Skilled Shooter (from Reliable Playmaker)
70/PF (+2) Johnny O'Bryant: Rebounding Four
69/SF (NC) Dwayne Bacon: Shooter (from Scoring Wing)
68/PG (+1) Marcus Paige: Reliable Playmaker
64/C (-1) Mangok Mathiang: Rebounding Center (from Rebounding Four)
Just to illustrate how much more work could be put into 2K's ratings, here are the grade changes for two players who had NO CHANGE to their Overall Rating
Kemba Walker
Inside Scoring: B+ (from A-)
Mid-Range Scoring: B+ (from C+)
3PT Scoring: B+
Playmaking: A- (from A)
Perimeter Defense: C+
Post Defense: C- (from F)
Rebounding D+ (from D)
Athleticism: B-
Basketball IQ: A
Marvin Williams
Inside Scoring: C (from B-)
Mid-Range Scoring: C-
3PT Scoring: A (from A-)
Playmaking: C
Perimeter Defense: D+
Post Defense: C+ (from C-)
Rebounding: C
Athleticism: C-
Basketball IQ: B-