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MLB The Show 21: Five Things We Want From Franchise Mode

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MLB The Show 21: Five Things We Want From Franchise Mode

When we last talked about franchise mode in MLB The Show 21, Bob discussed how he wanted to see the mode evolve over the years. In short, he wanted to see the customization by the fans doubled down on by the developers. If fans were empowered in even more ways by the developers, then minor league affiliates and the ability to make stadiums more authentic would be byproducts of the symbiotic relationship.

Here, Matt dishes in video form as he discusses five things he wants to see out of franchise mode just this year.

It’s hard to gauge how optimistic or pessimistic to be about franchise mode for ’21. The franchise mode teaser from SDS never came together, but we got stadium creator, which is a huge get for franchise mode. We have a “feature premier” for franchise mode from SDS, but it is being rolled into the same one as March to October. So does this mean there’s still more focus on that first year of franchise mode rather than blowing out the multi-year experience? We’ll get a better idea on April 1, but until then, we’ll continue to hope for the best.

What would be your top five power rankings for things you want out of franchise mode in MLB The Show 21?

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  1. If you want, power rank the 5 things you want most of out franchise mode this year either here or over on the YT video, thanks for being awesome y'all.
    1. MUCH better ai logic (lineups, rotations, injuries etc..)
    2. Bigger rosters (more player slots total)
    3. rotating schedules (year after year)
    4. more equipment brands (ex. Nike catchers gear)
    5. year to year saves (with the ability to add or remove players from rosters so you're not stuck with the same people for ever. In a year or so when a new player comes on the scene it'd be nice to have them in the franchise as well.)
    My power rank:
    1) EXPANDED ROSTERS
    Not to sound like a broken record, but in my personal opinion, until this is done, Franchise mode will continue to be extremely limited in the roster logic, trade logic, financial logic, etc...that it so desperately needs, along with the idea of deeper draft with international signing period and non-roster spring training invites.
    2) MAKE MANAGERS/COACHES MATTER
    Managers and coaches are just name alone in this game, and really have no impact whatsoever on the gameplay. They are "attribute influencers", but imo its extremely insignificant, if significant at all. We need coaches with personalities who have their own approach on managing the game from being aggressive on the basepaths, to playing small ball, shifting on defense, managing pitching staff/bullpen, etc....
    And please please please...I beg you...please stop making fake managers/coaches wear jackets all year long. Please
    3) OVERHAUL TRAINING
    This will go along or work with making coaches/managers matter. Training is too basic. I want to work with a prospect who is a dead pull hitter, learn to hit the ball the other way, or at least up the middle. I want to teach a kid a new position aside from just going in an editing his secondary position to where I want them to play. I want to help a starter develop a solid 4th or 5th pitch, etc...
    4) MORE CONTRACT OPTIONS
    This will require a change to how financials work, but we need more contract options. Currently you can front load, balance, or back load a contract which is nice, but what about signing a player to say a 7 year contract with opt outs in years 3 and 5 or things along those lines.
    I'll throw minor league contracts with non-roster invites to Spring Training to this list, but we need roster expansion first, imo.
    5) INJURY HISTORY
    This is vital in my opinion to help add depth to franchise. If a pitcher has had arm troubles and a free agent the offseason after injury, the chances of him getting a big pay day or long term deal are less likely due to not being sure how durable he will be. Same with players with knee, ankle injuries, etc...
    BONUS
    I know its cheating, but I wanted to list the 5 things that have yet to be in the game to be there, but year to year saves need to return. Please SDS bring back Y2Y saves!
    1. Better progression/regression
    2. 120ish man rosters
    3. Better draft class generation and the ability to edit during the scouting part of the season before the draft.
    4. Better scouting associated with the above.
    5. Ability to import and export players in franchise without having to have roster control on. Let us do it in any franchise.
    Also the obvious carry-over franchise option is a must.
    I actually think you need better presentation  in franchise, maybe another announcing crew to go with who you already have, like NBA2K. Since you have create stadiums, maybe every time you win a pennant or world series you have the option of throwing a flag up in the stadium representing the year you won. Stuff like that would help franchise even more so.
    * left-handed catchers. we got left-handed shortstops, past time catchers get that same opportunity lol
    * cpu balks. and catchers interference while they're at it
    * normal bunts. this ain't rocket surgery, just cut off the rocket
    * player attribute progression/regression where attributes stay the same the whole season with whatever rating a player has day one spring training. and doesn't update till day one the next spring training. so you're taking an unknown chance on signing free agents or re-signing your last years players. free agents are like a box of chocolates: you don't know what ya got till they open their first paycheck
    * three-way players: I'm not sure but I think it's pronounced ''manage a trois'' - every day players who can also pitch... AND manage. yeah, player coaches
    Caulfield
    * left-handed catchers. we got left-handed shortstops, past time catchers get that same opportunity lol
    * cpu balks. and catchers interference while they're at it
    * normal bunts. this ain't rocket surgery, just cut off the rocket
    * player attribute progression/regression where attributes stay the same the whole season with whatever rating a player has day one spring training. and doesn't update till day one the next spring training. so you're taking an unknown chance on signing free agents or re-signing your last years players. free agents are like a box of chocolates: you don't know what ya got till they open their first paycheck
    * three-way players: I'm not sure but I think it's pronounced ''manage a trois'' - every day players who can also pitch... AND manage. yeah, player coaches

    Never gonna see three way players the way you’ve described it here. Not in an E for everyone game.
    Damn... what is seen cannot be unseen :(
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    Better historical stat tracking. Show us top 25 in career stats, not just leader for most homeruns. Show us a list that goes
    1. Bonds 762 HR
    2. Aaron 755 HR
    Etc. to the top 25. Also add dynamic rule changes like nba2k has, a example of this would be ability to expand playoff teams or shorten the season.
    countryboy
    My power rank:
    1) EXPANDED ROSTERS
    Not to sound like a broken record, but in my personal opinion, until this is done, Franchise mode will continue to be extremely limited in the roster logic, trade logic, financial logic, etc...that it so desperately needs, along with the idea of deeper draft with international signing period and non-roster spring training invites.
    2) MAKE MANAGERS/COACHES MATTER
    Managers and coaches are just name alone in this game, and really have no impact whatsoever on the gameplay. They are "attribute influencers", but imo its extremely insignificant, if significant at all. We need coaches with personalities who have their own approach on managing the game from being aggressive on the basepaths, to playing small ball, shifting on defense, managing pitching staff/bullpen, etc....
    And please please please...I beg you...please stop making fake managers/coaches wear jackets all year long. Please
    3) OVERHAUL TRAINING
    This will go along or work with making coaches/managers matter. Training is too basic. I want to work with a prospect who is a dead pull hitter, learn to hit the ball the other way, or at least up the middle. I want to teach a kid a new position aside from just going in an editing his secondary position to where I want them to play. I want to help a starter develop a solid 4th or 5th pitch, etc...
    4) MORE CONTRACT OPTIONS
    This will require a change to how financials work, but we need more contract options. Currently you can front load, balance, or back load a contract which is nice, but what about signing a player to say a 7 year contract with opt outs in years 3 and 5 or things along those lines.
    I'll throw minor league contracts with non-roster invites to Spring Training to this list, but we need roster expansion first, imo.
    5) INJURY HISTORY
    This is vital in my opinion to help add depth to franchise. If a pitcher has had arm troubles and a free agent the offseason after injury, the chances of him getting a big pay day or long term deal are less likely due to not being sure how durable he will be. Same with players with knee, ankle injuries, etc...
    BONUS
    I know its cheating, but I wanted to list the 5 things that have yet to be in the game to be there, but year to year saves need to return. Please SDS bring back Y2Y saves!

    I wanna build on your post because you nailed it. We badly need an improved budget system. Free agency can be so frustrating because of the way the game is programmed to set aside a certain amount of money for arbitration and tender players and we don't know exactly what that number is. We need to have a screen where we are shown all of that. How much money is set aside for arbitration and tender players. That would make free agency better.
    But the most important thing is more roster spots, 90 man roster limits just isn't working. There's absolutely no to have a realistic franchise mode, especially after the first year because of the roster limit. It's why I rarely play more than 1 year at a time in franchise mode, it's just so broken.
    Also, another point about budgets and such, we need to have separate budgets for players on the 40-man roster versus those that aren't. I mean, it's all 1 budget, but having 40-man roster and those not on the 40-man roster listed as two different numbers would be extremely helpful too.
    Funkycorm
    1. Better progression/regression
    2. 120ish man rosters
    3. Better draft class generation and the ability to edit during the scouting part of the season before the draft.
    4. Better scouting associated with the above.
    5. Ability to import and export players in franchise without having to have roster control on. Let us do it in any franchise.
    Also the obvious carry-over franchise option is a must.

    Scouting should also be year-around. It's dumb that after the draft happens there's no more scouting. That's not realistic. Scouting in all sports is done year round. It never ends and it's so frustrating playing video games where scouting is only allowed for certain time periods.
    TRADES!!!! Please let us do complex trades. I'm sick of how limited trades are. We need to be allowed to trade draft picks and do PTBNL or cash trades. We also need to be able to pull off 3-team trades involving more than just 3 players per side. We can't do deals where it's 4 for 2 or 5 for 2 and things like that and it sucks.
    Caulfield
    * left-handed catchers. we got left-handed shortstops, past time catchers get that same opportunity lol
    * cpu balks. and catchers interference while they're at it
    * normal bunts. this ain't rocket surgery, just cut off the rocket
    * player attribute progression/regression where attributes stay the same the whole season with whatever rating a player has day one spring training. and doesn't update till day one the next spring training. so you're taking an unknown chance on signing free agents or re-signing your last years players. free agents are like a box of chocolates: you don't know what ya got till they open their first paycheck
    * three-way players: I'm not sure but I think it's pronounced ''manage a trois'' - every day players who can also pitch... AND manage. yeah, player coaches

    In all my 34-years on this planet and all the games I've watched in my life I've never seen a left-handed throwing catcher or left side of the infield player. Can you give one example of this happening in real life?
    A lot of good ideas so far. I'll try to be a little bit different so the thread doesn't get repetitive.
    1. Playable Single-A Ball
    --This would help accomplish 2 other common requests: Expanded rosters and improved progression system. Obviously this would require expanded rosters so that you would have at least 26 players in Single A. From there I would love to get roughly 20 extra players in "Low-A" (which for now can just function as Single-A does in the current game).
    --Some quick math: 4 levels of 26 = 104 players. 20 extras puts us as 124, so why not make it an "even" 125. This also should speed up the progression for young guys so that there are fewer 29 year old rookies.
    --Maybe cheating on my Top-5 list cuz it's not directly related, but gonna throw in NRI's in Spring Training into this point. Would finally make those games worth playing IMO.
    2. Completely Revamped Amateur Scouting/Drafting/Signing
    --An expanded draft would be great, especially with expanded rosters. However, I don't know that I need to sit through all 50(?) rounds. I would be fine with something in the 10-15 range.
    --Would also be cool if there were 5-6 extra roster slots reserved for players taken in that years draft. So you can get some of the college draftees some experience in Single-A in August and September
    --Any drafted player with college eligibility left needs to be harder to sign. It would be cool if unsigned draftees would reappear in later drafts as well, but honestly that's not super important to me.
    --International Signing period needs to be added. Enough of trying to cram both the draft and IFA's into 7 rounds.
    --Editable & sharable "amateur classes" (lumping in IFA's with Draft class) would be a cool feature. I'm sure the community could come up with some cool realistic/historic/fantasy amateur classes. Also an option to add Sign/Draft year in the edit player screen to fix the Rule-5 draft in the first few years of Franchise.
    --As for scouting....it just sucks as is....IDK what to change, maybe just more accurate 20-80 scale ratings. 80 FV players should be once in a generation type. There shouldn't be 30 of those guys in a draft class even if its just cuz they aren't "accurately" scouted yet.
    3. Transaction Negotiations
    --On-going trade negotiations, including a more detailed trade block. Players can be labeled "actively shopping", "available", "unavailable", "un-touchable", and then maybe a "neutral."
    --Free Agent negotiations need a little bit of attention as well. It shouldn't just be a contract screen and then sim a few days to see if you signed that player. It should be a bit more like recruiting in the NCAA Football series.
    --Each Free Agent should go through 3 stages at their own pace: "Listening"--where they are open to offers from any team, "Narrowing"--where they are only open to offers from teams they have already been in contact with, and "Finalizing"--where they are only open to offers from the top 3 teams. This helps free agency feel a bit more involved
    --Opt-outs, signing bonuses and more control over annual salary would also be a big plus. Realistic financial figures would be nice too. Adding real contracts was cool, but when the logic was not updated with that addition it didn't really add much to Franchise mode
    4. Manager/coach/GM Tendencies
    --First of all, managers and coaches should be editable. More gameday equipment options besides the same old jacket. Lets get hoodies (cutoff for Boone), BP pullovers, regular uniform, and stirrups for old-timers
    --Managers should have lineup/bullpen management tendencies: Classic Lineup (fast leadoff hitter, best hitter 3rd...), modern lineup(high OBP leadoff, best hitter 2nd...), classic pitching staff (5 starters, closer gets lots of saves), modern staff (5 + a swingman, uses bullpen aggressively). Just spit-balling a few
    --Assistant coaches should influence ratings (similar to how the current system works, but definitely could use some tweaking). One big thing is that the pitching coach should give boosts/deductions based on pitch repertoires.
    --GM traits influence how a team constructs a roster (focus on developing draft picks/trading for veterans/signing free agents), as well as strategies within those areas (i.e. targeting college hitters in the draft like Theo Epstein did with the Cubs, or going all-in at the trade deadline vs. only trading prospects for controllable players). If implemented correctly these things can really improve the CPU roster management
    5. Expansion Teams
    --We've already got the Stadium creator and the Logo/Uniform Editor. Now lets put those things to good use! Add in an expansion draft and allow the other 30 teams to protect 10 players (I think that's the rule). I think expansion to 32 teams is inevitable, so SDS should add this before it actually happens, because expansion past 32 seems unlikely at the moment.
    That was probably technically more than 5 things...but oh well :)
    AUTiger1
    In all my 34-years on this planet and all the games I've watched in my life I've never seen a left-handed throwing catcher or left side of the infield player. Can you give one example of this happening in real life?

    Jack Clements Phillies catcher, caught over 1000 games.
    but I'd love to be able to put put Mike Squires at catcher for a game or two using classic historical rosters from the 80's. Benny Distefano also too as well in the 80's. Squires actually played 13 games at 3B, which you can have lefties at 2B/3B/SS in the Show thankfully
    1. Ability to restructure the divisions or eliminate divisions entirely and change number of teams so one can recreate the MLB of years past. Not just expand the 30 teams, but to also reduce the total number of teams to such as 20, 16 etc.
    2. Ability to truly relocate a team vis-a-vis morale. If I relocate the Dodgers to Brooklyn I should be able to redesignate it an "East" team. As it is now, as I understand it, even if you change the city to Brooklyn, the players morale is still evaluated based on the team being a West team.
    3. Allow left handed catchers. There are a significant number of historical catchers who threw left handed.
    4. Ability to edit names and faces of managers and coaches. Add ability to have "Player-Managers".
    5. Ability to make "universal" uniform changes to all players on a roster. As it is now if you wish all the players on a team to have high socks you have to edit each player individually. There was a time when player's uniforms were just that ... uniform. To this I would like added the old fashioned baseball shirt with collar.
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    Jack Clements is only one example of a left handed catcher. There were others in the past though not very many. Nevertheless, I do not understand why they are not allowed in the game. Perhaps it is a programming issue.
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    Karle
    Jack Clements is only one example of a left handed catcher. There were others in the past though not very many. Nevertheless, I do not understand why they are not allowed in the game. Perhaps it is a programming issue.
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    It would be a programming issue. A whole other set of animations to incorporate into the game. Lots of work in that.
    I’d love to see it to, but not at the expense of all the other things mentioned here.
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    1. Ability to restructure the divisions or eliminate divisions entirely and change number of teams so one can recreate the MLB of years past. Not just expand the 30 teams, but to also reduce the total number of teams to such as 20, 16 etc.
    2. Ability to truly relocate a team vis-a-vis morale. If I relocate the Dodgers to Brooklyn I should be able to redesignate it an "East" team. As it is now, as I understand it, even if you change the city to Brooklyn, the players morale is still evaluated based on the team being a West team.
    5. Ability to make "universal" uniform changes to all players on a roster. As it is now if you wish all the players on a team to have high socks you have to edit each player individually. There was a time when player's uniforms were just that ... uniform. To this with collar.
    Ditto Karle 1-2-5
    1. Text to Speech Synthesizer for teams players managers and Stadiums.
    Announcement of Ebbets Field may never be offered otherwise.
    This year the announcers only say Brooklyn or
    Dodgers separately combining Brooklyn Dodgers together seems a better choice.
    2. Ability to reduce the number of teams in each league to 8.
    Reduce number of games in a season and number of innings in a game.
    3. Accessories offer different eras equipment.
    Helmets during Mickey Mantle's time were flat at the bottom.
    4. " Baggy Uniforms "
    5. New upgraded player models.
    More elaborate face tool not a redo but and add to.
    Love this amazing game!
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    Just having a consistent year to year effort in improving the mode would make me happy (every suggestion from this thread can be the punchlist). I'll beat my own dead horse, when a company is too engrossed in their micro-transaction program, there is no hope for any other mode. NBA 2k does all of these spiffy things, so why can't SCEA?...well, because...:smirk:
    Everyone else has pretty much covered everything I would want. So I'll just give 5 things that I wouldn't necessarily call high priority but should be included for realism sake.
    1. INJURIES

    • Contextual injuries based on what's actually happening in the game. No more of the previous play the ball fouled off behind the plate but somehow the pitcher took a nasty shot to the head.
    • Show the injured player, I don't need to see a bone popping out, but show the player grabbing the affected area (shoulder, hamstring),sitting down if it's really bad or hobbling at least to indicate were the injury is.
    • The commentary team kind of brush off injuries they should be talking about and that commentary should probably replace or work in conjunction with the pop up message

    2. REBRAND/RELOCATE ANY TEAM

    • We should be able to rebrand relocate any team within our franchise not just the team you're using. Especially since we have a stadium creator just because I'm not using the rays doesn't mean I want them to stay in the Trop (nobody deserves that)

    3. COMMENTARY

    • Give them something to say. I'm not sure how many lines the commentary guys have but RDR2 had 500,000 of dialogue. There ar so many stats and things going on in a baseball season there has to be a lot more to say that than "He's certainly not Chipper Jones" or "The freedom in that hack". They can talk about other games going on league leaders anything there is a lot to talk about.
    • Related to the previous point I don't dislike Heidi they just need to drop her model, and give her more information to talk about. She can talk about injuries the mood in the stadium doing. She's a wasted opportunity
    • Make it more fluid in 2K they will be making a comment then get interrupted then pick back up with there original thought. I hit a single to the gap and the guys are still talking about how "They'd be shocked if the pitcher went to the well a 3rd time"

    4. LIVELY DUGOUTS, BULLPENS, BALL BOYS

    • Live cutscenes. Players in the Bullpen or Dugout should have some kind of AI routines that can be cut to instead. The should be reacting to amazing plays or look uninterested in blowouts, moving between leaning over the dugout fence and sitting down. Laughing, scowling just make them more alive. Let's see a ball hit into the bullpen and the guys warming react. The Ball boys/girls probably should be reacting when a line drive is at their head just saying.
    • Please mo-cap someone walking down the dugout stairs properly. Lots of games struggle with stairs but we have the tech let's get this done. It looks terrible.
    • There's a lot of personality you see from players all we really get in The Show are the occasional hijinks pregame cut scene.

    5. MANGER/GM PHILOSOPHIES AND MOVEMENT

    • We should see managers and GMs hired and fired by the computer. I've seen managers and staff go to other teams but it doesn't seem to really do anything or not really acknowledged in any meaningful way.
    • Both GMs and Managers should have different philosophies. You could start the GM with the teams current philosophy but if they get fired the type of players, how much the team spends should change based on the new front office. That keeps things fresh over multiple years as new regimes come in maybe they decide to build for the long term through the farm system or want to win "now" through free agency.
    • Managers should have their own identity as well. Maybe a guys old school and leaves pitchers in for longer or is really aggressive on the bases regardless. Maybe he never wants his pitchers to play it safe and just go after the opposition big bats. There is so much they could do.

    Again these aren't the most important things but would help with immersion.
    There are so many things 5 isn't enough.. However.
    Rotating Schedules, this has been a need for MANY a years. Or give me the ability to make the schedule..
    Improved Drafting/Scouting. Four scouts isn't enough. And increase player depth (I'm looking at you West Coast) This would also include international scouting and signing periods.
    Rule changes need to be updated. Playoff rule change, happened years ago, still not correct in the show. Slides at second base are 95% illegal. I'll throw replay challenges in here as well, they need to be everywhere for every scenario. I'd love to be able to challenge the back end of a double play, but nope.
    Defensive AI/Bullpen. Do I need to explain this one. If they have a lefty available in the pen and I have three righties coming to bat you can bet I'm seeing the lefty.. Defensively - diving catches with subpar fielders, plays off or near walls are way to clean and easy for the cpu, never a bobble or bad hop miscue..
    Stats, stats, and more stats. Make them available everywhere in game especially. I want historical stats vs a pitcher broken down by batter by pitch type etc. Make the touch pad useful for this instead of being a waste of time that I gotta hit the pause button.
    I could go on forever...
    Caulfield
    * left-handed catchers. we got left-handed shortstops, past time catchers get that same opportunity lol
    * cpu balks. and catchers interference while they're at it
    * normal bunts. this ain't rocket surgery, just cut off the rocket
    * player attribute progression/regression where attributes stay the same the whole season with whatever rating a player has day one spring training. and doesn't update till day one the next spring training. so you're taking an unknown chance on signing free agents or re-signing your last years players. free agents are like a box of chocolates: you don't know what ya got till they open their first paycheck
    * three-way players: I'm not sure but I think it's pronounced ''manage a trois'' - every day players who can also pitch... AND manage. yeah, player coaches
    There hasn't been a left handed full time catcher since 1902....Probably because if you're left handed and can throw, why waste that left handedness at catcher when you can put it to work on the mound?
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    They need to get rid of the different pitcher designations. No more SP/RP/CP. Let CPU teams decide based on pitchers set of skills, where and how to use them, rather than by their designation. Also, if we or the AI wishes to convert a reliever into a starter, said pitchers stamina should be able to be stretched out, by giving him some starts in the minors.
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    Caulfield
    Jack Clements Phillies catcher, caught over 1000 games.
    but I'd love to be able to put put Mike Squires at catcher for a game or two using classic historical rosters from the 80's. Benny Distefano also too as well in the 80's. Squires actually played 13 games at 3B, which you can have lefties at 2B/3B/SS in the Show thankfully

    Thanks, I'll look him up.
    AUTiger1
    TRADES!!!! Please let us do complex trades. I'm sick of how limited trades are. We need to be allowed to trade draft picks and do PTBNL or cash trades. We also need to be able to pull off 3-team trades involving more than just 3 players per side. We can't do deals where it's 4 for 2 or 5 for 2 and things like that and it sucks.
    Just an FYI, MLB does not allow the trade of draft picks IRL.
    I believe it is also true that a player cannot be traded until they have spent at least 1 day on any roster in the organization, but that one I'm less sure about.
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    1) More wide variety of experiences facing different pitchers and hitters.
    2) Increased and more intense minor league management
    3) college/hs stats on players we are scouting
    4) More creative Dev
    5) A new Cleveland nickname
    TheWarmWind
    Just an FYI, MLB does not allow the trade of draft picks IRL.
    I believe it is also true that a player cannot be traded until they have spent at least 1 day on any roster in the organization, but that one I'm less sure about.
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    I think they allow the competitive balance picks to be traded. I'm not sure about your other point.
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    I do believe the developers pay attention to this website because I've seen many things being pushed on this website become reality.
    I'd like to see the OS people push for an answer as to why carry over saves will be discontinued and whether they will return.
    You guys nailed everything I could think of so I’ll add a few small issues.
    1. CPU issue where the relievers warming up aren’t always the pitcher put in the game.
    2. Ability to set rotation where you move up an ace after off days and he doesn’t lose rating points because he’s not in the top slot. Same with batters losing points for batting in slot not set for a star. Example Judge batting 2nd loses points.
    I read every one of these comments and it really shows how important franchise is to this group. So many great ideas. Love them all.
    The only thing I can maybe add is a few items that were already mentioned, rotating interleague schedules, year to year saves, better cpu management etc....
    Sent from my thoughts
    1. Vastly improved AI in ALL aspects of the game, especially roster management. I can make boneheaded decisions myself, I don't need the cpu's help!
    2. Increased roster size
    3. Improved training, scouting, and regression/progression.
    4. Rotating schedules and expansion/realignment.
    5. Get rid of this weekly budget nonsense.
    6. Bonus: GIVE US AN OPTION TO TURN HEIDI WATNEY OFF!!!!!!
    tessl
    I do believe the developers pay attention to this website because I've seen many things being pushed on this website become reality.
    I'd like to see the OS people push for an answer as to why carry over saves will be discontinued and whether they will return.
    It seems like they've rewritten the code for franchise on PS5 which would be why year to year saves wouldn't work.
    I believe they have said they hope to bring it back
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    Jr.
    I think they allow the competitive balance picks to be traded. I'm not sure about your other point.
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    It used to be possible to trade free agent eligible players for competitive balance picks, back when they had type A and type B free agents, but that whole system is scrapped. Now competitive balance picks are only rewarded for free agents who decline qualifying offers and sign elsewhere, and the picks cannot be traded.
    TheWarmWind
    It used to be possible to trade free agent eligible players for competitive balance picks, back when they had type A and type B free agents, but that whole system is scrapped. Now competitive balance picks are only rewarded for free agents who decline qualifying offers and sign elsewhere, and the picks cannot be traded.

    You are a bit confused. Competitive balance picks are awarded by a formula based on revenue and market size. They can be traded IRL. The last two years Milwaukee traded one of their competitive balance picks.
    The show doesn't have competitive balance picks probably because they only have a limited June draft and the code to write for revenue and market size isn't worth the time they would have to spend writing it.
    jcar0725
    I like the idea of her being there, just wish it was better implemented.
    Sent from my thoughts
    I don't know why they feel the need to animate her, they don't have animations of Vasgersian or any of his other sidekicks down through the years. plus, it's a terrible likeness of her anyways. just leave her voice in, and bring back the ability to turn off whichever talking head you want. for me, that's an easy choice in Mushmouth Plesac. I wish Hal Reynolds would have stayed on more than a year. I suppose I should be glad it's Plesac in the game, it could be worse: it could be Tim McCarver, John Sterling or Hawk Harrelson in the Show instead
    Expanded rosters in spring training, give me some spots so I can invite anybody in the organization.. Or, if possible, make it so that the game ignores 40 man/minor league roster status in spring and instead allows you to set a daily roster. So if I wanna have a game where it's entirely backups and minor leaguers, I can. After all, these are the only real guys fighting for spots and it'll allow me to take a look at my young guys that aren't ready yet.
    With Stadium Creator coming I wonder if there could be ANY way to modify existing stadiums in franchise where new pennant/world champion banners get added to the stadium as franchise rolls along. Would be amazing to win a title and see it memorialized in the stadium for the rest of your franchise. Ditto if there's a way to retire more numbers and add them to the stadium.
    Caulfield
    I don't know why they feel the need to animate her, they don't have animations of Vasgersian or any of his other sidekicks down through the years. plus, it's a terrible likeness of her anyways. just leave her voice in, and bring back the ability to turn off whichever talking head you want. for me, that's an easy choice in Mushmouth Plesac. I wish Hal Reynolds would have stayed on more than a year. I suppose I should be glad it's Plesac in the game, it could be worse: it could be Tim McCarver, John Sterling or Hawk Harrelson in the Show instead
    Yeah thats fair. Honestly when you play as much as we do, the play by play gets really stale, even if it was great play by play its gonna get stale. I would like the ability to just have Matty V talking and that's it.
    Sent from my thoughts
    Caulfield
    I suppose I should be glad it's Plesac in the game, it could be worse: it could be Tim McCarver, John Sterling or Hawk Harrelson in the Show instead

    If Hawk Harrelson was the play-by-play announcer I would honestly consider not buying the game lol. Hawk made for a terrible watching experience, but some memorable YouTube compilations.
    tessl
    You are a bit confused. Competitive balance picks are awarded by a formula based on revenue and market size. They can be traded IRL. The last two years Milwaukee traded one of their competitive balance picks.
    The show doesn't have competitive balance picks probably because they only have a limited June draft and the code to write for revenue and market size isn't worth the time they would have to spend writing it.

    The Show does have competitive balance picks.
    For someone who plays every six games and is in year 13 of a franchise a few things;
    1. Acknowledge the franchises previous successes/failures. Mention they lost in the CS last year, talk about a WS rematch the following year, etc. how many losing/winning seasons
    2. Talk about players stats on a more year to year basis. We get the awards lower third once in awhile but if I have a guy who has won back to back cy youngs, that’s worth a mention.
    3. When we see the lower third for how a player was acquired, if they have been with the team a long time, mention the initial acquisition, not that you signed them as a FA last year. Hard to see a homegrown talent whose been on the team for 12 years be mentioned as a FA signing.
    4. It’s been said a lot, but let’s see season to season stats for our minor leaguers. I am forced to keep a separate notes app tracking year to year highlights and stats to know who gets the call up and motion progression
    5. I’d like to see more interesting trade offers coming in. After the first couple years, I only get 1-3 a season and they are such obvious No’s, that it would interesting to see better offers to make me compliment my team through these trades.
    Honestly for me personally.
    1. Downloadable and shareable draft classes. I love historic rosters. I hate not being able to add drafted players to them.
    2. Shareable rebrands like 2k has for basketball. I don’t have the time for 30 rebrands, but love custom teams and chises.
    If I had that level of customization. I’m in.
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    SethMurphy
    Honestly for me personally.
    1. Downloadable and shareable draft classes. I love historic rosters. I hate not being able to add drafted players to them.
    2. Shareable rebrands like 2k has for basketball. I don’t have the time for 30 rebrands, but love custom teams and chises.
    If I had that level of customization. I’m in.
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    Shareable rebrands are in the game. You can download my Midwest Farmers in the vault with the windmill logo.
    jrnlgrn
    The Show does have competitive balance picks.

    You are correct - I misspoke. Am I correct they can't be traded in the show like they can IRL?
    1. A budget/finance management system that makes sense and is engaging.
    2. A complete overhaul of scouting, drafting, etc. This would include an IFA period.
    3. Expanded player pages and stat tracking similar to 2k, as I saw mentioned previously.
    4. Trade logic completely overhauled and more than 3 trading slots.
    5. More “meat” on the bones. This is pretty vague, but there just isn’t a lot to do outside of playing games.
    tessl
    You are a bit confused. Competitive balance picks are awarded by a formula based on revenue and market size. They can be traded IRL. The last two years Milwaukee traded one of their competitive balance picks.
    The show doesn't have competitive balance picks probably because they only have a limited June draft and the code to write for revenue and market size isn't worth the time they would have to spend writing it.
    You're probably correct, I might have read some rules wrong.
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    Something else that I'd like to see improved is the trade block. To many times you will see a player on the trade block and the position wanted is a secondary position for the player being traded.
    Or a young player with 1 or more years of team control is on the trade block. At the very least, that player helps fill out the rosters and is easy on the budget.
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    1. Playoff Roster Management Fix: I'm tired of seeing teams with no catchers available for the playoffs because they can't replace the two injured catchers... (this happens because you can't put anyone on the playoff roster that isn't on the major league roster on September 1st...
    2. Ability to create different league and/or division formats...
    3. Playable single A and low single A minor leagues...
    4. Ability to remove retired uniform numbers (to recreate historical season rosters or start your own history...)
    5. Ability to setup your bullpen strategy on a game to game basis...
    I really loved MLB the Show from MLB 2004 to MLB The Show 2017 but the franchise mode has really gone stale for me. I have been spending much more of my baseball game time with OOTP and tabletop games over the last two years... I haven't preordered the Show since 2018 and I in all likelihood will not even purchase the game this year...
    knucklecutter
    1. MUCH better ai logic (lineups, rotations, injuries etc..)
    2. Bigger rosters (more player slots total)
    3. rotating schedules (year after year)
    4. more equipment brands (ex. Nike catchers gear)
    5. year to year saves (with the ability to add or remove players from rosters so you're not stuck with the same people for ever. In a year or so when a new player comes on the scene it'd be nice to have them in the franchise as well.)

    Year to Year Saves should be the #1 priority
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    One thing that to me is very important, but I do not believe has been mentioned, is that SDS this year continue to add to the database of first and last name voice files available in the "Edit Player" function. For those who create historic rosters the more additional names the better.
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    Yes Karle very important to roster builders. Check my post with new names we hope are added to 2021 The Show. Nick names also .
    Karle
    One thing that to me is very important, but I do not believe has been mentioned, is that SDS this year continue to add to the database of first and last name voice files available in the "Edit Player" function. For those who create historic rosters the more additional names the better.
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    Couple things that stick out to me or i've mentioned before in the past:
    1. Expanded Rosters/Roster abilities:
    -Playable Single-A. Also, roster slots(20-30) for Low-A, even if
    unplayable.
    -Non-roster Spring Training Invites. (This one kills me) Or
    SPECIFIED minor league contracts
    -3 or 4 Man rotations for Playoffs.
    2. More Player card info:
    -In-Depth "behind the scenes statistics" Accolades for player careers
    -Details on scouting reports for prospects (I know we used to have
    scouting reports on cards because there wasn't ratings)
    3. Editable draft classes
    4. Better/advanced budgeting categories
    5. Extended "season" at the end of the year for prospects - Arizona fall leage,
    etc.
    Thoughts?
    Not hard to please
    1) Fix auto baserunning
    2) Manager AI (Especially Bullpen)
    3) Post Season roster issues
    4) Rotating Inter league Schedules
    5) Manager Editor (If you can make your own players you should be able to make your own managers
    The biggest improvement they could give us is:
    Expanded Rosters
    This would open up the roster for more balance, more scouting, more drafting. It all goes hand in hand.
    I rather see far more improvements in terms of roster building and on field action than anything else.
    95% of my time in franchise mode....is on the diamond. Playing every game. All the magic of franchise mode takes place on the field for me. Playing with my prospects, playing with guys I developed. Having the storylines unfold and be born each and every season.
    I don’t want a game made for text simmers. I want a game made for those guys who actually you know.....play.
    And that is what we have gotten for the most part over the last decade. It is why I pour 1000’s of hours into this series.
    MTO is very concerning to me. I really hope we do not see a marriage between MTO and traditional franchise mode.
    I want more improvements on the game itself than the UI.
    I hope we get expanded rosters....I really do. Because that will signal franchise mode is going in the right direction.
    If it is still 90 man rosters then it will feel like the same type of mode no matter what they do in terms of re-designing screens. Because that is all we got on MLB 18 with Phases. A Re-Skin. And it was not great. In fact I prefer what we had on 17 as far as the UI. Was much more informative on the day to day of the league (daily recap screen.....I keep coming back to that LOL).
    SO let’s hope for Expanded Rosters and Y2Y as the top two priorities. If those two thing happen.....we are in for great things again as far as playing deep into franchise mode for the next console generation.
    If Y2Y does not return....and the way I play....this will not be an annual purchase anymore.
    Bottom line.
    I know this is super wishful thinking.............
    BUT could the reason be that no Y2Y saves is that Franchise mode on PS5 got a huge overhaul and its completely different?
    Take 2k for example, aren't the PS4 and PS5 versions of Franchise mode completely different experiences?
    I'm sure this is completely false... BUT that thought is in the back of my head... I should probably get it out of my head.
    The Kid 24
    I know this is super wishful thinking.............
    BUT could the reason be that no Y2Y saves is that Franchise mode on PS5 got a huge overhaul and its completely different?

    I think most abandoned the hope of an overhaul when they removed the word "revamped" from the info on the official website shortly after they announced '21.
    The Kid 24
    I know this is super wishful thinking.............
    BUT could the reason be that no Y2Y saves is that Franchise mode on PS5 got a huge overhaul and its completely different?
    Take 2k for example, aren't the PS4 and PS5 versions of Franchise mode completely different experiences?
    I'm sure this is completely false... BUT that thought is in the back of my head... I should probably get it out of my head.

    I would be very surprised if the PS5 version of franchise mode was different, especially vastly different, considering its my understanding you can import your franchise from PS4 to the PS5.
    Armor and Sword

    95% of my time in franchise mode....is on the diamond. Playing every game. All the magic of franchise mode takes place on the field for me. Playing with my prospects, playing with guys I developed. Having the storylines unfold and be born each and every season.
    I don’t want a game made for text simmers. I want a game made for those guys who actually you know.....play.

    Frankly, that's how this particular franchise mode is built. It's not a micro-management text sim style mode (like NBA 2k's mode); it's a mode whose strongest elements are both on the field (i.e. the ratings-focused gameplay and solid representation of franchise-specific information via OSDs). You really do get a fuller and richer experience by playing every game (or a vast majority of them).
    The Kid 24
    I know this is super wishful thinking.............
    BUT could the reason be that no Y2Y saves is that Franchise mode on PS5 got a huge overhaul and its completely different?
    Take 2k for example, aren't the PS4 and PS5 versions of Franchise mode completely different experiences?
    I'm sure this is completely false... BUT that thought is in the back of my head... I should probably get it out of my head.

    Now you're in my head..I hope you're right! Especially since I'm picking up my 5 today
    countryboy
    I would be very surprised if the PS5 version of franchise mode was different, especially vastly different, considering its my understanding you can import your franchise from PS4 to the PS5.

    Are you saying you can upload your franchise to the cloud with the PS4 version of 21 and then download it into the PS5 version of 21?
    If that indeed is true......you can forget expanded rosters.
    Armor and Sword
    Are you saying you can upload your franchise to the cloud with the PS4 version of 21 and then download it into the PS5 version of 21?
    If that indeed is true......you can forget expanded rosters.

    Yes...I thought I had heard/read somewhere that you can import your MLB 21 franchise from PS4 to the PS5 via the cloud.
    I've searched here but I honestly don't remember where I read/heard that. Maybe I'm mistaken? :nocomprende:
    countryboy
    Yes...I thought I had heard/read somewhere that you can import your MLB 21 franchise from PS4 to the PS5 via the cloud.
    I've searched here but I honestly don't remember where I read/heard that. Maybe I'm mistaken? :nocomprende:

    Definitely can for MLB 20....I did it last night.
    Unsure about 21...that would be nice if we could.
    Armor and Sword
    Are you saying you can upload your franchise to the cloud with the PS4 version of 21 and then download it into the PS5 version of 21?
    If that indeed is true......you can forget expanded rosters.
    Personally at this point I’m not expecting any of the significant things people are listing in here to come to Franchise mode this year. I’m already expecting expanded rosters are out of the picture for this year but we can hope till the franchise stream I guess. The stadium creator already looks great, that and the few things we already know about probably ate up most of the time and resources right there.
    Been losing the positive thinking and just leaning towards trusting SDS recent track record instead. The way they quickly pulled the word ‘revamped’ once they saw it caught some attention and started getting people excited is a bad sign from the start.
    My guess on the kind of way it’s gonna go: Franchise/MTO stream will be a shorter one, maybe 1-2 things (nothing huge like expanded rosters) to show off , then the rest (half or most) of the stream time goes to MTO.
    Hopefully this post ages horribly but that’s where I’m at now, I mean EA didn’t suddenly change their approach to franchise mode because they just randomly decided it was important and they felt bad for franchise players. The community stepped up and put some pressure on them to do something.
    JoshC1977
    Definitely can for MLB 20....I did it last night.
    Unsure about 21...that would be nice if we could.

    Well if that is the case......expanded rosters are not happening IMO.
    It will be what we have had at 90.
    Again....cross console is what nerfed Y2Y at least for this year. All the talk it held back being able to improve franchise mode is bunk until proven otherwise.
    My biggest hope was because they are expanding rosters and re-doing the core coding of franchise mode due to roster expansion.
    LOL knew that was a long shot....but again hope to be proven wrong. I mean think about it. All the talk is about speeding up the game, getting through seasons in 18 hours....adding more players? More prospects to manage?
    Come on folks...let's see what is really going on and know that almost all improvements are about streamlining not “expanding” franchise mode.
    Being real about it.
    I love the game. But I don’t expect much in terms of franchise mode improvements. I see the opposite actually. I see things going into a more simplistic direction vs more complex.
    And like I was posting about before, I rather see a lot more improvement with the on field experience inside franchise mode since those of us in that “niche" group of playing almost every game (in my case all 162) would love far more dynamic stats of the season popping up and keeping us engaged with other teams as we play them. It is such a huge immersion thing to see historical matchups, splits, current streaks, talk about injuries, trades, players coming up through he minors, more of that inside the game while playing...much more of that and franchise will only be better for it.
    VS endless menus screens and spreadsheets. This is not a text sim. What needs to be done off the diamond is core AI lineup, drafting, trade, team building logic and expanded rosters would go a long way to helping that!!!
    So we wait......and wait.....and wait lol.
    Maybe next year......sigh.
    Let’s hope for some surprises on the franchise stream April 1st.
    Looking forward to tonights first stream. It is always an exciting time with new MLB The Show news regardless of what it is.
    Armor and Sword

    4.

    There's a lot of good requests in this thread, but this one had always bugged me because it really hurts immersion not being included. Its fun seeing Joe Blow going on a tear in year 3 in AAA when you remember him being *** two years back in AA, but unfortunately his stats are not saved, in a sport that is so stat-heavy.
    If I am going to add anything, I would like to see a scouting/draft overhaul. I do not like the idea of prospects not existing/being created until I search for that specific type of player. Just seems lazy to me, idk.
    JoshC1977
    Definitely can for MLB 20....I did it last night.
    Unsure about 21...that would be nice if we could.

    MLB 20 isn't a PS5 game. It's a PS4 game you can play on PS5, so it would makes sense that it works.
    We already know the PS5 version of 21 isn't the same as PS4 version, so I doubt the files will be interchangeable.
    Armor and Sword
    Again....cross console is what nerfed Y2Y at least for this year. All the talk it held back being able to improve franchise mode is bunk until proven otherwise.

    Has that been confirmed? That Y2Y isn't back because of the game being made for multiple platforms now?
    Jr.
    Has that been confirmed? That Y2Y isn't back because of the game being made for multiple platforms now?

    It will be at some point. And if not...then I am wrong. Big freaking deal.
    Fact of the mater is....it is gone which is a lose lose for a lot of us.
    Armor and Sword
    It will be at some point. And if not...then I am wrong. Big freaking deal.
    Fact of the mater is....it is gone which is a lose lose for a lot of us.

    Hahaha I love that logic.
    So people speculating it's gone because of changes to franchise is bunk. But you speculating it's gone because of cross-platform isn't, until it's proven to be bunk.
    Classic Armor and Sword. Never change
    Jr.
    Hahaha I love that logic.
    So people speculating it's gone because of changes to franchise is bunk. But you speculating it's gone because of cross-platform isn't, until it's proven to be bunk.
    Classic Armor and Sword. Never change

    Love you too Jr.
    Armor and Sword
    Are you saying you can upload your franchise to the cloud with the PS4 version of 21 and then download it into the PS5 version of 21?
    If that indeed is true......you can forget expanded rosters.

    How are you coming to this conclusion?
    jack1535
    How are you coming to this conclusion?

    It has been said numerous times by the development team, that there simply is not enough space for more than 90 man rosters on the PS4 version of the game. With everything they have on the game it simply won’t fly. Some people think Y2Y held back expanded rosters.....it did not do so on the PS4. Also and I am no game developer....let’s say it was possible....they would have had to tear down franchise mode and rebuild it (I assume).
    So if you are able to upload your PS4 franchise to the cloud and download it to the PS5 version.....then you can’t expect more than 90 man rosters with these factors I just mentioned.
    And the hope is that Y2Y being removed was a sign that rosters were being expanded. I still think it will be the same. We will see. All questions will be answered when the game drops.
    truth be told, it's probably a combination of new platforms and something new in franchise is what's halted Y2Y saves. if the Studio only had one of those challenges they might've been able to overcome and keep Y2Y going for another year
    that's obviously speculative from me, just what I'm guessing at the moment. but if I had to lean one way or the other, I'd think new platforms was the issue. we'll know soon enough. April 16 getting closer by the hour
    We know that logos imported into the Logo Vault before February 28th will be available for MLB the Show 21. However, what about players in the Player Vault and rosters in the Roster Vault? Is there any information on this? This is not really a carry over save like Rtts or Franchise as there are no accompanying statistics.
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    Karle
    We know that logos imported into the Logo Vault before February 28th will be available for MLB the Show 21. However, what about players in the Player Vault and rosters in the Roster Vault? Is there any information on this? This is not really a carry over save like Rtts or Franchise as there are no accompanying statistics.
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    They've done the "logos in the vault" thing in the last couple of iterations at least; but never have for other file types (like rosters).
    Armor and Sword
    It has been said numerous times by the development team, that there simply is not enough space for more than 90 man rosters on the PS4 version of the game. With everything they have on the game it simply won’t fly. Some people think Y2Y held back expanded rosters.....it did not do so on the PS4. Also and I am no game developer....let’s say it was possible....they would have had to tear down franchise mode and rebuild it (I assume).
    So if you are able to upload your PS4 franchise to the cloud and download it to the PS5 version.....then you can’t expect more than 90 man rosters with these factors I just mentioned.
    And the hope is that Y2Y being removed was a sign that rosters were being expanded. I still think it will be the same. We will see. All questions will be answered when the game drops.

    IRL 90% of minor league players never set foot on a MLB field so full minor rosters are no big deal. The primary focus is enough legitimate minor league players to create a sustainable carry over franchise.
    Speaking of carry over franchise as the Bard would say there lies the rub.
    tessl
    IRL 90% of minor league players never set foot on a MLB field so full minor rosters are no big deal. The primary focus is enough legitimate minor league players to create a sustainable carry over franchise.
    Speaking of carry over franchise as the Bard would say there lies the rub.
    I don't need playable high class A or low class A but I'd still like to have a more fleshed out farm system of say 130 players. don't really need a ''true full'' of 200+ players IMO
    but increasing the 90 man would also allow to increase the drafting rounds from 7 to 14, which is sorely needed. again, my opinion
    I like the fact most players you develop will never even get a cup of coffee in the big Show.
    really makes searching for diamonds in the rough a better overall minor league experience afaic
    tessl
    IRL 90% of minor league players never set foot on a MLB field so full minor rosters are no big deal. The primary focus is enough legitimate minor league players to create a sustainable carry over franchise.
    Speaking of carry over franchise as the Bard would say there lies the rub.

    This percent of what you speak is where the inherent problem lies and why a larger roster size will fix so many things.
    Before I continue, I will say I pretty much doubt roster size will be increased this year.
    The reason larger rosters would help is because roster makers and by extension roster users all want their favorite prospects all in the game and all with A potential. Even though they may be in rookie ball, everyone wants that 18 year old to be on an AA roster from the get go. It creates an unbalanced experience.
    This also creates an overload of high prospects and years down the road the percent of players that reach the show is higher than what happens in real life.
    Simply expanding the rosters to 104+12 players in rookie ball will help with so much in this game. A ball doesn't have to be playable but that would be a perk.
    I don't see us getting anything we want on this list but I can dream.
    1) Ability to transfer any real logo photo to 2021 uniforms.
    Including sleeve logos. Creating logo tool takes too long.
    2) 2020 you could create uniforms but couldn't use any other uniforms offered .
    Don't restrict any combination between hats jersey pants including created hats jersey pants.
    3) Big ears equal overly wide helmets...recalculate from temple instead of ears.
    4) Shorter players heads are too big for their bodies. Please give us more control of head size
    5) A choice of bat length.
    Just because a player is short shouldn't mean his bat must be short. Example Hack Wilson.
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    Armor and Sword
    Well if that is the case......expanded rosters are not happening IMO.
    It will be what we have had at 90.
    Again....cross console is what nerfed Y2Y at least for this year. All the talk it held back being able to improve franchise mode is bunk until proven otherwise.
    My biggest hope was because they are expanding rosters and re-doing the core coding of franchise mode due to roster expansion.
    LOL knew that was a long shot....but again hope to be proven wrong. I mean think about it. All the talk is about speeding up the game, getting through seasons in 18 hours....adding more players? More prospects to manage?
    Come on folks...let's see what is really going on and know that almost all improvements are about streamlining not “expanding” franchise mode.
    Being real about it.
    I love the game. But I don’t expect much in terms of franchise mode improvements. I see the opposite actually. I see things going into a more simplistic direction vs more complex.
    And like I was posting about before, I rather see a lot more improvement with the on field experience inside franchise mode since those of us in that “niche" group of playing almost every game (in my case all 162) would love far more dynamic stats of the season popping up and keeping us engaged with other teams as we play them. It is such a huge immersion thing to see historical matchups, splits, current streaks, talk about injuries, trades, players coming up through he minors, more of that inside the game while playing...much more of that and franchise will only be better for it.
    VS endless menus screens and spreadsheets. This is not a text sim. What needs to be done off the diamond is core AI lineup, drafting, trade, team building logic and expanded rosters would go a long way to helping that!!!
    So we wait......and wait.....and wait lol.
    Maybe next year......sigh.
    Let’s hope for some surprises on the franchise stream April 1st.
    Looking forward to tonights first stream. It is always an exciting time with new MLB The Show news regardless of what it is.

    What is it about cross-platform that has you convinced it has prevented Y2Y continuing? Y2Y saves are just a database. They’re fairly platform agnostic.
    I don’t feel we will get roster expansion this year, but if we are going to get it anytime in PS5 lifetime, the time is now. It’s something that will cause massive issues with Y2Y saves (how to add the additional players to the save file’s rosters) and will mean that in a future release there will be a choice between one feature or the other for that year.
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    Red_Ted_is_back
    What is it about cross-platform that has you convinced it has prevented Y2Y continuing? Y2Y saves are just a database. They’re fairly platform agnostic.
    I don’t feel we will get roster expansion this year, but if we are going to get it anytime in PS5 lifetime, the time is now. It’s something that will cause massive issues with Y2Y saves (how to add the additional players to the save file’s rosters) and will mean that in a future release there will be a choice between one feature or the other for that year.
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    I am purely speculating. But I have seen a lot of back and forth about "well Y2Y held back improvements on franchise mode".
    Let’s see what the so-called “updates” are this season that has some people convinced that is why Y2Y was taken out.
    I am not nearly as convinced it was removed for that reason on MLB 21. But if it was removed so they can improve a lot with the core mode I really have no problem with it’s removal for that reason.
    I just find it very odd that moving to a new console combined with XBOX getting the game and now Y2Y was removed.
    Why? Why have we not even gotten an answer as to the “why”?
    Just tell us. I mean why is it such a secret as to the why?
    It would be a big "hurray" from the community if they said “it held us back from franchise improvements”. That would be well received. But then.....expectations start rising and IMO I think nothing significant has been done to Franchise Mode to justify Y2Y's demise for 21.
    Again pure speculation. I am not looking to get into a debate....I am merely just discussing....”why”.
    It was a groundbreaking feature and one a lot of us in this particular community embraced 1000%. It is a bummer it is gone.
    If they came out and said well the move to a different console on two different gens did not allow for us to continue the Y2Y feature....the reaction and feedback won’t be as nice.
    I get it.....if that is the reason...I get it. I can’t be mad. More people are going to be able to enjoy the game (XBOX) so that is all positive.
    I just would like to know “why” and “when” it will return (if ever).
    No big deal. We can still play MLB 20 for a long time.
    If things on this thread get implemented (expanded rosters, better AI lineup logic, in game logic improvements, better presentation etc etc etc and simulation gameplay does not get overrun, over time by stick skills) yeah....we can look to let go of our long running franchises to enjoy a true new and improved game sometime in the future.
    But for the first time.....I have become very pessimistic about the direction of this game and a lot of sports games in general.
    Let’s use our common sense. The direction of sports games is going the way of E-Sports and online. The Show is on that track more than ever. It was the last bastion of core simulation play. And I am sure the gameplay on 21 will be very good, but already we are seeing the culture shift (check swings) with no more ratings check on check swings, the marketing is completely aimed at the kids and DD....MTO (a far more streamlined season mode basically that can be played in 18 hours wire to wire).
    Just one mans opinion.
    I imagine they will explain why it was removed when we get to the franchise or RTTS stream
    And I expect they will then discuss their current stance as to its return
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    countryboy
    I imagine they will explain why it was removed when we get to the franchise or RTTS stream
    And I expect they will then discuss their current stance as to its return
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    That would be great. Hope we can get some light shed on the whole thing.
    CBoller1331
    A lot of good ideas so far. I'll try to be a little bit different so the thread doesn't get repetitive.
    5. Expansion Teams
    --We've already got the Stadium creator and the Logo/Uniform Editor. Now lets put those things to good use! Add in an expansion draft and allow the other 30 teams to protect 10 players (I think that's the rule). I think expansion to 32 teams is inevitable, so SDS should add this before it actually happens, because expansion past 32 seems unlikely at the moment.
    )

    I couldn't agree more about Expansion Team Mode for Franchise; I believe this would be the most compelling game mode out there. Sim-style players would enjoy the chance to build a realistic expansion team that can compete in the majors, DD players would enjoy trying to put together a team of the best players they could find and using their logos/teams in a Franchise setting, and RTTS players could bring up their RTTS player as the first legend for this new team. -- This leverages the stadium creator, logo creator, and would add an exciting twist to Franchise mode. -- Personally, this would be my favorite mode.
    Don't count on a reason as to 'why' they never told us why season mode vanished. that only a year later March to October came out which we all 'assumed' was the reason for it to be gone.
    They are really started to head towards that EA way of taking features out and magically put them back in years later.. we did lose sounds of the show and it was put back in. (that was a next gen thing though wasn't it) it's when they advertise it as "a new feature' that is annoying
    This time last year.. we all had MLB 20 all locked in our houses and I was doing roster work getting it right with the default rosters...
    this year we don't even know what is new to the game with franchise and we are now a month from release. it's quite sad really. what time last year from release were we told about Minor league rosters??? was it a month before release?? you would think by now if we had expanded rosters we would know by now and it would be announced with a month before release.
    I just see it as the same boring 90 man rosters with 10 class A guys that are fake. with the same ridiculous way of moving guys around with the roster management that we have seen for 10 years. until we are told otherwise I will assume it is that again this year.
    ninertravel
    Don't count on a reason as to 'why' they never told us why season mode vanished. that only a year later March to October came out which we all 'assumed' was the reason for it to be gone.
    They are really started to head towards that EA way of taking features out and magically put them back in years later.. we did lose sounds of the show and it was put back in. (that was a next gen thing though wasn't it) it's when they advertise it as "a new feature' that is annoying
    This time last year.. we all had MLB 20 all locked in our houses and I was doing roster work getting it right with the default rosters...
    this year we don't even know what is new to the game with franchise and we are now a month from release. it's quite sad really. what time last year from release were we told about Minor league rosters??? was it a month before release?? you would think by now if we had expanded rosters we would know by now and it would be announced with a month before release.
    I just see it as the same boring 90 man rosters with 10 class A guys that are fake. with the same ridiculous way of moving guys around with the roster management that we have seen for 10 years. until we are told otherwise I will assume it is that again this year.

    We knew about minor league rosters on Feb 13th when they discussed RTTS changes and in turn lumped franchise in with it.
    I don't think that just because its one month until release and nothing in regards to expanded rosters has been mentioned that its a tell tale sign that expanded rosters aren't happening. Maybe they are still 90, who knows?
    I'm just waiting to see what's what on April 1st when franchise mode is discussed. Check out whats new, changed, and hopefully learn the team's plans for Y2Y saves whether it be to bring back at some point or scrap for good.
    Until then.......:popcorn:
    esmeet7
    I couldn't agree more about Expansion Team Mode for Franchise; I believe this would be the most compelling game mode out there. Sim-style players would enjoy the chance to build a realistic expansion team that can compete in the majors, DD players would enjoy trying to put together a team of the best players they could find and using their logos/teams in a Franchise setting, and RTTS players could bring up their RTTS player as the first legend for this new team. -- This leverages the stadium creator, logo creator, and would add an exciting twist to Franchise mode. -- Personally, this would be my favorite mode.

    Expansion mode on NHL 19 (it is my
    Go to NHL game) is a blast and is done really well.
    That would be an awesome mode if it is done correctly on MLB The Show. I would be all over it.
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    countryboy
    We knew about minor league rosters on Feb 13th when they discussed RTTS changes and in turn lumped franchise in with it.
    I don't think that just because its one month until release and nothing in regards to expanded rosters has been mentioned that its a tell tale sign that expanded rosters aren't happening. Maybe they are still 90, who knows?
    I'm just waiting to see what's what on April 1st when franchise mode is discussed. Check out whats new, changed, and hopefully learn the team's plans for Y2Y saves whether it be to bring back at some point or scrap for good.
    Until then.......:popcorn:

    Yeah well if they announced right now expanded rosters. I would hit pre order now and they finally would swing me! I would take that over Y2Y saves. any other year but y2y saves wouldn't have bothered me only I decided back in Jan to start a season expecting that 'don't worry can carry it over in mlb 21' so that is why have paused on buying 21. and with the roster problems with exporting there will be delays with rosters having to start from scratch (assuming we can't import rosters from 20 either)
    I will in the end grab 21 but it might not be on release date unless I do hear things like expanded rosters, April 1st seems like a long way away a dangerous day to tell news too! lol
    I've looked for the answer to this question, but I haven't been able to find it. Will MLB The Show 21 have multi player online franchises as an option?
    jgarrett
    I've looked for the answer to this question, but I haven't been able to find it. Will MLB The Show 21 have multi player online franchises as an option?

    Custom Leagues was introduced on MLB 20.
    That is their multi player online league option.
    It is not a fully fleshed out “online franchise” mode per say. But that is the answer to your question.
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    Armor and Sword
    Custom Leagues was introduced on MLB 20.
    That is their multi player online league option.
    It is not a fully fleshed out “online franchise” mode per say. But that is the answer to your question.
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    That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the response
    I'm really hoping for the best.
    The decision SDS made to have the franchise mode stream on opening day I hope is telling the mode is getting good love. Thatd look pretty bad if the stream was underwhelming on opening day.
    I also am hoping since they've changed up RTTS as much as they have it forced them to get rid of Y2Y save for the year.
    This makes me believe franchise has been updated enough to not really allow a Y2Y save carry over.
    heres my yearly wish list. doubt i will get any of them. haven't played in a couple years now so maybe some things have been added. but this is my dream list.
    Being almost a strictly franchise gamer, here is a few things I'd love to see:
    -HISTORICAL CRITICAL MOMENTS. My main one I'd love to see that I think would change franchise mode experience for lots of players. Now that critical moments are in the game, I would LOVE to see an ability to play super rare historical critical moments for every team in the franchise. When a player is nearing 500, 600, 700 homeruns, 3000 hits, a strikeout record, hitting-streak record, etc. This makes the entire franchise feel more genuine and immersive, and gives you a reason to go checkout another team for a game or two rather than just roll with yours the entire time. In-game records would be great too, approaching 20 K's in a game and you can watch or play and drive the record home.
    -One of my other main things is the feel of the end of games. They should mix it up and have more than just one ending presentation. The player of the game card thing is outplayed and old, and you'd never really see that in real game. Just a nice highlight combo package would be great, similar to what 2K does, and have it fade to black, and then bring up the screen where you can go box scores, etc. In the playoffs, this should be totally different. For example after winning a world series you see the dramatic cut scene, and then it goes right to a player of the game card animation with the announcer in a very monotone voice. Just feel like with baseball you have so many games, so you see so many endings.
    -Ability to see how each player has done against the starting pitcher you are facing in the lineup editor screen. This puts you more into the managerial position to maybe put in a guy on the bench who has crushed this pitcher in the past, and give someone who has struggled a day off. They always mention these stats in the game when the batter is up, so the data already exists.
    -ATMOSPHERE. This is one of the things I think is lacking in the game. Way more dugout interaction, celebrations not just for homeruns. Just making the game feel true to the sport, and making the players more life like with their emotions. Obviously super ramped up come Sept/Oct/Nov.
    -4 to 6 pitcher rotations. Should be an easy thing to code. You literally just select what style you want to run in pitching rotation menu, and it translates to the played game pitcher selection screen and sim.
    -Curtain calls, when a starter goes deep into the game, does a great job, and is removed...Having the crowd give a standing applause as he walks to the dugout. Maybe tips his cap. Those are the moments that make you feel the game is real.
    -I always loved what NCAA Football did with recruiting, making it a mini-game in itself. Doing something fun with Free Agency would be nice to see. Ability to persuade a free agent, pitch your city, franchise, etc. More than just offering a deal and seeing a meter at the top of the screen. They have all of the morale features, why not use them a little more and have some fun with it?
    -I always loved in High Heat Baseball how a random rainout would come into play forcing a double header. This would be one of those fun little things franchise players get excited about.
    -I know a lot of guys have been begging for an update to online franchise. If it is updated, I feel like this is a mode I would play a lot with my friends.
    -Rotating interleague schedules. This is something a lot of the longer term franchise players have been asking for.
    -The loading screen before a game. Adding more to this, maybe spotlight matchup or a pick to click type of deal. (A hitter who has crushed a pitcher before).
    -Better AI Roster Management. Call ups/downs, lineups, etc.
    -If you won a world series last year, on your home opener, have a big cut scene celebration. This is done in NHL, or at least used to be.
    -Making the post season feel much larger. The towels are a great start. Now find other ways to reward us for playing a full season. Maybe new scorebug?
    -Love in NBA 2K when you are in a certain part of the year (Halloween, Christmas, Thanksgiving), having the game feel as if it was played during that time. I love the pink gear on mothers day, the blue on fathers day, etc. Maybe go further with some baseball holidays (July 4th, etc).
    -Ability to see holidays on the calendar. (Mothers Day, Fathers Day, July 4th, Memorial Day). The game already does some fun uniforms and such during these days, so it'd be fun to even have a tiny asterisk letting us know, so we don't sim over it.
    -During the first month of the year, when you face an opponent in the first game of the series, showing their key losses/additions from last year would be cool. Having announcers talk about it for a sec. That could be a cool moment.
    -Loved the old features from around MLB 12. Bobblehead nights and other promo's you could do on certain games. Setting up a campaign to try and get some of your players on the all star team, setting prices for certain products, etc.
    -Catcher snap throws back to the bag // Catcher Relevance overall. I feel like its becoming a little more common for catchers with rocket arms such as Yadier Molina(more so back in the day), Wilson Contreras types to fire back at the bag. As of now I've never seen it in the game, at least not done when you can even get someone close. The catcher is an extremely important defensive position, would love to make that more important when playing the game.
    That is a long lost and 90% of it will not be in 21.
    Chad0034
    heres my yearly wish list. doubt i will get any of them. haven't played in a couple years now so maybe some things have been added. but this is my dream list.
    Being almost a strictly franchise gamer, here is a few things I'd love to see:
    -HISTORICAL CRITICAL MOMENTS. My main one I'd love to see that I think would change franchise mode experience for lots of players. Now that critical moments are in the game, I would LOVE to see an ability to play super rare historical critical moments for every team in the franchise. When a player is nearing 500, 600, 700 homeruns, 3000 hits, a strikeout record, hitting-streak record, etc. This makes the entire franchise feel more genuine and immersive, and gives you a reason to go checkout another team for a game or two rather than just roll with yours the entire time. In-game records would be great too, approaching 20 K's in a game and you can watch or play and drive the record home.
    -One of my other main things is the feel of the end of games. They should mix it up and have more than just one ending presentation. The player of the game card thing is outplayed and old, and you'd never really see that in real game. Just a nice highlight combo package would be great, similar to what 2K does, and have it fade to black, and then bring up the screen where you can go box scores, etc. In the playoffs, this should be totally different. For example after winning a world series you see the dramatic cut scene, and then it goes right to a player of the game card animation with the announcer in a very monotone voice. Just feel like with baseball you have so many games, so you see so many endings.
    -Ability to see how each player has done against the starting pitcher you are facing in the lineup editor screen. This puts you more into the managerial position to maybe put in a guy on the bench who has crushed this pitcher in the past, and give someone who has struggled a day off. They always mention these stats in the game when the batter is up, so the data already exists.
    -ATMOSPHERE. This is one of the things I think is lacking in the game. Way more dugout interaction, celebrations not just for homeruns. Just making the game feel true to the sport, and making the players more life like with their emotions. Obviously super ramped up come Sept/Oct/Nov.
    -4 to 6 pitcher rotations. Should be an easy thing to code. You literally just select what style you want to run in pitching rotation menu, and it translates to the played game pitcher selection screen and sim.
    -Curtain calls, when a starter goes deep into the game, does a great job, and is removed...Having the crowd give a standing applause as he walks to the dugout. Maybe tips his cap. Those are the moments that make you feel the game is real.
    -I always loved what NCAA Football did with recruiting, making it a mini-game in itself. Doing something fun with Free Agency would be nice to see. Ability to persuade a free agent, pitch your city, franchise, etc. More than just offering a deal and seeing a meter at the top of the screen. They have all of the morale features, why not use them a little more and have some fun with it?
    -I always loved in High Heat Baseball how a random rainout would come into play forcing a double header. This would be one of those fun little things franchise players get excited about.
    -I know a lot of guys have been begging for an update to online franchise. If it is updated, I feel like this is a mode I would play a lot with my friends.
    -Rotating interleague schedules. This is something a lot of the longer term franchise players have been asking for.
    -The loading screen before a game. Adding more to this, maybe spotlight matchup or a pick to click type of deal. (A hitter who has crushed a pitcher before).
    -Better AI Roster Management. Call ups/downs, lineups, etc.
    -If you won a world series last year, on your home opener, have a big cut scene celebration. This is done in NHL, or at least used to be.
    -Making the post season feel much larger. The towels are a great start. Now find other ways to reward us for playing a full season. Maybe new scorebug?
    -Love in NBA 2K when you are in a certain part of the year (Halloween, Christmas, Thanksgiving), having the game feel as if it was played during that time. I love the pink gear on mothers day, the blue on fathers day, etc. Maybe go further with some baseball holidays (July 4th, etc).
    -Ability to see holidays on the calendar. (Mothers Day, Fathers Day, July 4th, Memorial Day). The game already does some fun uniforms and such during these days, so it'd be fun to even have a tiny asterisk letting us know, so we don't sim over it.
    -During the first month of the year, when you face an opponent in the first game of the series, showing their key losses/additions from last year would be cool. Having announcers talk about it for a sec. That could be a cool moment.
    -Loved the old features from around MLB 12. Bobblehead nights and other promo's you could do on certain games. Setting up a campaign to try and get some of your players on the all star team, setting prices for certain products, etc.
    -Catcher snap throws back to the bag // Catcher Relevance overall. I feel like its becoming a little more common for catchers with rocket arms such as Yadier Molina(more so back in the day), Wilson Contreras types to fire back at the bag. As of now I've never seen it in the game, at least not done when you can even get someone close. The catcher is an extremely important defensive position, would love to make that more important when playing the game.

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    eric7064
    I'm really hoping for the best.
    The decision SDS made to have the franchise mode stream on opening day I hope is telling the mode is getting good love. Thatd look pretty bad if the stream was underwhelming on opening day.
    I also am hoping since they've changed up RTTS as much as they have it forced them to get rid of Y2Y save for the year.
    This makes me believe franchise has been updated enough to not really allow a Y2Y save carry over.

    Yeah same here. Really hoping for the best.
    RTTS will have some significant changes that Y2Y will not work. Load outs and the exciting Video Blogs (next gen only) and audio blogs for current gen.
    So next week is a big big week in seeing what has really been done (besides the stadium creator) for franchise mode.
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    I want more stats. Playoff stats, minor league stats, team stats, and historical league history (WS winners, League Leaders). I shouldn’t not be able to see league leaders once the playoffs start
    This was posted in the RTTS stream thread....
    Since in the stream they mentioned you start at AA level I'm guessing that means there won't be expanded rosters or at least not a playable A ball.
    We'll see if they talk about it next week.
    jgarrett
    That's what I was afraid of. Thanks for the response
    Depending on how many people you want in an online franchise environment, and if you trust them well enough, my buddy and I always had a generic PSN account we shared the login info for. Since any account can play the games on your system, we'd just use that shared account to start up a franchise that controlled two teams and would share an offline franchise that way.
    The downside is only one can be playing their game at a time, but it is a workaround to getting some semblance of an online type franchise experience. I'd play my game then sign off, he would login and play his game, rinse repeat. If you're the types to want to play all 162, I could see how that would get old, but we are the types that only played 2 games over in-game week and simmed the rest, so it wasn't all too inconvenient for us.
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    - Rotating interleague schedules (and random Spring Training schedules after the first year)
    - Teams that are declared to be rebuilding or contending and act that way in free agency and re-signing players
    - Buyers and sellers at the trade deadline
    - Realistic budgets
    - Customizable managers and more accurate manager re-signing
    - Fix the playoff roster eligibility to match real life
    - Bigger trades
    I’m sure there’s more I’d love to see.
    The Kid 24
    This was posted in the RTTS stream thread....
    Since in the stream they mentioned you start at AA level I'm guessing that means there won't be expanded rosters or at least not a playable A ball.
    We'll see if they talk about it next week.

    I’m hoping their decision to have your ballplayer start in AA is more aligned to the narrative and feedback on the length in the minors most users prefer. Leaving it open for an expanded single A for franchise to still exist.
    1) Like to be able to add lifetime stats to our created legendary players.
    2) Before I build a new legendary roster from scratch in 2021 The Show it would be great if we could know if we can transfer our new legends to next year's game ( 2022 )
    3) New detailed and updated face tool.
    4) More attention paid on 40's to 70's baseball equipment.
    5) Create hat Jersey Pants and be able to use any combination with uniforms offered.
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    Several teams are starting the season with a 6 man rotation this year. I know it’s been discussed before, but it would be nice to be able to use a 4 man, or 6 man rotation.
    I really loved one of the early post.
    I am extremely frustrated if indeed SD remove the option to import a franchise game save to the next opus.
    To be clear, if on top of that, they don’t bring back a full experience online Mode it is unlikely i will buy the game in 22.
    For me my top wish list is full experience online franchise mode. It should be a minimum requirement to any game under official license since it promotes the only game mode which truly looks like MLB.
    Then i will just second one of the early post
    2- Enhanced draft and scouting (benchmark is NHL franchise mode on this.
    3- Enhanced roster management with real minor league system. It should include spring league invitations. Benchmark for this is OOTP baseball.
    4- Enhanced finances and contracts to bring more realistic financial management and budgets contraints. Benchmark for this is NBA 2k.
    5- enhanced progression system and training. This could also allow coaches to matter. Benchmark for this Madden.
    Madden as the benchmark for a progression system?!?!? Madden has the worst progression system in any sports game ever. Give me OOTP's system where there are unlimited career potentials. 1 year wonders, late bloomers, etc. Any type of career arc you can think of is possible in that game and nothing is given and easy(unless you tune the settings to make it so).
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    The Kid 24
    God, Im nervous for Thursday’s stream.... PLEASE be a good one.
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    14 minutes of MtO and a minute for franchise.
    1. Online Franchise
    2. Online Franchise
    3. Online Franchise
    4. Online Franchise
    5. Online Franchise
    And I want it to not just be bare bones. Full 90+ man rosters, contracts, trading, AI for non-controlled teams.
    jrnlgrn
    14 minutes of MtO and a minute for franchise.

    Haha... Ive noticed the streams have been about 30 minutes so far, I bet Thursday’s will be the shortest one... I give it 20 minutes tops.
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    I am going into this Thursdays stream with zero expectations.
    So I hope to be very pleasantly surprised (ability to import rosters on PS5 version of the game from MLB 20 PS4?) with meaningful and impactful franchise mode updates.
    We shall see.
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    I'm betting there will be hints through week. QandA with coach, maybe a blog post?
    Seem to get something on Mondays.
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    Armor and Sword
    I am going into this Thursdays stream with zero expectations.
    So I hope to be very pleasantly surprised (ability to import rosters on PS5 version of the game from MLB 20 PS4?) with meaningful and impactful franchise mode updates.
    We shall see.

    I have plenty of expectations...
    1. That MtO will be the focus of this stream with little "oh yeah, we added this to franchise too". I doubt they spend more than 1 min discussing franchise mode and it will be incredibly vague statements like (updated AI or improved interface).
    2. That they will reference the "Rewards" for MtO about 5 times (with the "Don't forget to watch our stream in two weeks to find out more")
    3. That everything will be geared around making the experience shorter. God forbid that people actually have to play the game :rolleyes:
    4. That we will not receive an answer about roster share from MLBTS20 until the game actually drops.
    JoshC1977
    I have plenty of expectations...
    1. That MtO will be the focus of this stream with little "oh yeah, we added this to franchise too". I doubt they spend more than 1 min discussing franchise mode and it will be incredibly vague statements like (updated AI or improved interface).
    2. That they will reference the "Rewards" for MtO about 5 times (with the "Don't forget to watch our stream in two weeks to find out more")
    3. That everything will be geared around making the experience shorter. God forbid that people actually have to play the game :rolleyes:
    4. That we will not receive an answer about roster share from MLBTS20 until the game actually drops.

    I agree with all these. It doesn't give too much hope when they combine franchise with MTO. Since Road to the Show had these big changes and it had it's own show. I sure hope I'm wrong. But they have been showing more love to MTO than Franchise.
    This stream dictates whether or not I entertain the idea of getting The Show anytime soon, if at all this year. I already bought OOTP 22. If franchise mode hasn't been updated with notable improvements then I'll just wait for the game to go on sale if I do decide to get it.
    Right now I'm not really leaning towards getting the game at all. Some nice updates, especially to the AI will at least push me towards buying it on a sale. Significant upgrades would push me towards paying full-price at or near launch. Hardly any improvement to the mode and I'll be happy playing OOTP all baseball season. The only thing The Show has an advantage over OOTP is being able to play the games out myself. Everything else OOTP does better, so for someone like me who is more of a GM player and less of a sticks guy anymore, I won't be missing out if SCEA doesn't make The Show worth purchasing this year.
    I would love to buy both games each year, but SCEA's priorities over the recent years have not aligned with mine as well as they used to. Fortunately baseball has options unlike the NFL where we are stuck with Madden and nothing else. I'm appreciative to be able to have OOTP as a rock to lean on each year while I decide on The Show.
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    10 years ago this would have been the week I was most excited for. But if the last five years have taught me anything, this week will not live up to expectations. I have zero, and I mean zero hype for this weeks stream. Then again I wasn’t expecting full minors and was pleasantly surprised.
    JoshC1977
    I have plenty of expectations...
    1. That MtO will be the focus of this stream with little "oh yeah, we added this to franchise too". I doubt they spend more than 1 min discussing franchise mode and it will be incredibly vague statements like (updated AI or improved interface).
    2. That they will reference the "Rewards" for MtO about 5 times (with the "Don't forget to watch our stream in two weeks to find out more")
    3. That everything will be geared around making the experience shorter. God forbid that people actually have to play the game :rolleyes:
    4. That we will not receive an answer about roster share from MLBTS20 until the game actually drops.

    I still use your recruiting and coach progression template for NCAA 14 - thanks for producing that.
    Regarding roster share it appears it won't happen for mlbts 21 and if that's the case my decision on whether to buy the game depends on whether they say carry over saves will return in 2022. The days of having to blow up my franchise and start over are gone for me. I'd love to have the stadium creator but not at the expense of being limited to a one year franchise.
    Since teams can have as many as 9 man pens, I really hope AI bullpen logic was re-worked because otherwise bullpen use could be an even bigger issue this year, with more guys not getting used.
    While I am doubtful about roster share in 21 from 20 I do want to make a comment on it.
    If I remember correctly, it was never announced it was going to be in 20. It just popped up on one of the streams and we just screen shotted it if I remember correctly. Maybe they said something after it popped up on the screen but it wasn't made a big deal of.
    My point is, I don't think they are going to announce whether it is in or not because it was never announced for 20.
    From the look of the RTTS stream, there were no new attributes added so even though I am not holding my breath for it, I don't think we can come to a conclusion about whether it is in or not for 21. I think it is smart for roster makers to hold off on their work as a precaution though.
    Simply because they never made a fuss about it in 20. It was just there.
    There is no chance they increase roster size or fix anything I want in franchise this year as the adding and removing of the word revamped spoke more than any blog they will release.
    Just my two cents on roster share.
    Funkycorm
    While I am doubtful about roster share in 21 from 20 I do want to make a comment on it.
    If I remember correctly, it was never announced it was going to be in 20. It just popped up on one of the streams and we just screen shotted it if I remember correctly. Maybe they said something after it popped up on the screen but it wasn't made a big deal of.
    My point is, I don't think they are going to announce whether it is in or not because it was never announced for 20.
    From the look of the RTTS stream, there were no new attributes added so even though I am not holding my breath for it, I don't think we can come to a conclusion about whether it is in or not for 21. I think it is smart for roster makers to hold off on their work as a precaution though.
    Simply because they never made a fuss about it in 20. It was just there.
    There is no chance they increase roster size or fix anything I want in franchise this year as the adding and removing of the word revamped spoke more than any blog they will release.
    Just my two cents on roster share.
    yeah, that's the way I remember editable service time for real scea players being too. it's like these type things are the new Easter eggs
    The Kid 24
    Watch there be no videos or articles this week, just the stream on Thursday... Would just be our luck since it's Franchise week.

    They asked for franchise questions back in February so a Q&A video seems pretty likely tomorrow.
    HozAndMoose
    They asked for franchise questions back in February so a Q&A video seems pretty likely tomorrow.

    I hope so! We’ll see.
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    canes21
    Madden as the benchmark for a progression system?!?!? Madden has the worst progression system in any sports game ever. Give me OOTP's system where there are unlimited career potentials. 1 year wonders, late bloomers, etc. Any type of career arc you can think of is possible in that game and nothing is given and easy(unless you tune the settings to make it so).
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    Not the point to start a debate on this here but i strongly disagree i have been playIng online franchise only in madden since 2004.
    I actually think the current system is the best they ever had and better than 2k or nhl or tge show currently
    I.e
    a- You gain xp by performing in game and practices
    b- Coach matter in practice through perks
    c- You choose which groups get xp by selecting practices
    d- your scheme influences practice xp
    e- thanks to xp players get progression which you actually understands and can track weekly (i.e it is transparent and user friendly)
    f- player progression traits impacts progression (ie not all players get same progression)
    g- there is an element of randomness with the points acquired which prevents obvious issues like facing a team with a full 90s bsh front 7
    All of that for me seems really good
    I mean REALLY good
    And i wish it would be used as benchmark for other sports games starting by the show
    Get ready for editing the organizational depth chart and that’s it. We are in for a let down if we are expecting any of these features. Franchise is clearly not the priority for this game. So many minor details like non roster invitees have been missing for years now, there is no indication based on the direction of this game that franchise will change much from what we have been given these past 5 years..
    Hope I’m wrong but let’s talk after Thursday lol
    JoshC1977
    I have plenty of expectations...
    1. That MtO will be the focus of this stream with little "oh yeah, we added this to franchise too". I doubt they spend more than 1 min discussing franchise mode and it will be incredibly vague statements like (updated AI or improved interface).
    2. That they will reference the "Rewards" for MtO about 5 times (with the "Don't forget to watch our stream in two weeks to find out more")
    3. That everything will be geared around making the experience shorter. God forbid that people actually have to play the game :rolleyes:
    4. That we will not receive an answer about roster share from MLBTS20 until the game actually drops.

    Bingo! Winner

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