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A Look at All of the NBA 2K18 Classic Teams Available This Year

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A Look at All of the NBA 2K18 Classic Teams Available This Year

2K has posted an image of all of the classic teams available in NBA 2K18, 17 of them are new this year, 62 in total. Add in the 30 All-Time teams and you have 92 teams to choose from, along with the current NBA teams, of course.

If you’re into fantasy drafts for MyLeague, you can choose ‘All Teams’ as a player pool, which will encompass: Current NBA Teams, Classic Teams, and All-Time Teams.

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  1. Beautiful to see all of them. Hopefully we can make even more ourselves with the huge pool of players available from the All time teams and create a team/rebrand. Hoping for some phenomenal rosters with accurate to the year jerseys. Really hoping that they allow us to edit shorts length, because that would make us able to create accurate classic teams.

    Oh yes ... oh my. Not even including the All-Time teams there, that's 62 classic-teams.
    You add in the All-Time squads, that's an incredible 92 different squads of NBA teams ...
    Assuming a minimum of 13 players on every team, that's at least 1,196 players across those 92 squads. Of course, there will be duplicates, but that's still insane.
    Those duplicates will likely be, at most, a third of those 1,196 ... that's only 398 duplicates, which leaves at least 798 distinct players across those 92 squads (operating under the assumption every team goes at least 13 deep - more players means more distinct players).
    Utterly ridiculous. That 798 is well above the 450 distinct players on the current 30 NBA teams.
    2K has outdone itself this year, at least as far as content goes. Bravo.:y220e:
    Wow they add the two Sixers teams that lost in finals appearances but not probably the best Sixers team ever that dominated the league in 82-83.
    Could have been a video game on its own, and yet we have it as just some more goodies. With all the complaints I've had, this is an incredible list.
    Crazy to think how many players, teams and historic content we are getting! This looks amazing:) the NEW logo is cool too. Would love the 04 Pistons main or alternate flaming horse logo though haha
    Sitew33
    Wow they add the two Sixers teams that lost in finals appearances but not probably the best Sixers team ever that dominated the league in 82-83.
    I think that '83 Sixers team was a victim of circumstance when it came to their inclusion in 2K.
    2K angled for the 1985 76ers team in 2K12 because I think they thought an Erving-Malone-Barkley convergence would make for a fun squad. But then Barkley dropped out and 2K was left with a 76ers team that wasn't 1985 or 1983 (Andrew Toney was missing, too). When 2K lost Moses Malone's rights after his passing, I think they felt it just didn't make sense to keep that 80's Sixers team in the game. It was basically Julius Erving and the Johnsons at that point.
    Still amazed how they gradually expanded the selection from teams Jordan played against in the 80s and 90s, to classic teams from the 60s to 90s, to classic teams from the 2000s and 2010s and now All-Time teams.
    I may be wrong. But I believe the 2012 Knicks logo is incorrect. Well the logo may be correct, but I think they used this logo as their mid court logo during that season.
    I just hope they make it easy to play with online. I didn't play with any classic teams this year online. I never made it to the NBA League. My favorite teams to play with were the Bucks 71, 04 Suns and 02 Lakers.
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    Hustle Westbrook
    Still amazed how they gradually expanded the selection from teams Jordan played against in the 80s and 90s, to classic teams from the 60s to 90s, to classic teams from the 2000s and 2010s and now All-Time teams.
    It's probably the biggest thing in this game for me. So much replay vaule during the off-season.
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    bhilogy
    Just curious, what happen to the euroleague teams?
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    I don't know a person who played with these teams. Im guessing that's because I'm from the USA. But I only looked at those because I usually held L2 in the wrong direction.
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    jeebs9
    I don't know a person who played with these teams. Im guessing that's because I'm from the USA. But I only looked at those because I usually held L2 in the wrong direction.
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    I also dont play with those teams, im just curious with the addition of 30 all time greats teams, does 2k had enough slot to still add them
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    jeebs9
    I don't know a person who played with these teams. Im guessing that's because I'm from the USA. But I only looked at those because I usually held L2 in the wrong direction.
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    Would be fantastic for an Olympic mode though.
    That's all they need to do it make a tournament mode for them....
    The roster nico and supermati put together here on OS for both RIO and All of the Euro League teams made 2k17 a lot of fun against different Team USA's.
    Impetuous65
    My only wish when it comes to Classic teams are era specific rules and game play style. I never play classic teams because no matter the era 60's teams play like 2000's teams and 60's players have handles like 2000's players. I want to see hand checking, hard fouls just being hard fouls ect...
    I like the idea but from a coding stand point. Your talking about a lot of changes. But if Park games can have rule changes. I'd like to see that in classic games.
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    I don't mean to sound too nit picky, but the '08 Nuggets didn't have the navy logo yet, it was still powder blue. Also hope they fixed the '04 Wolves logo.
    Other than that, all the logos look spot on from what I can tell.
    Sitew33
    Wow they add the two Sixers teams that lost in finals appearances but not probably the best Sixers team ever that dominated the league in 82-83.

    Stop complaining, you should be grateful for what 2k is giving us this year, which is unparalleled.
    For those complaining about missing players read this.
    http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/08/nba-2k18-all-time-teams-no-charles-barkley-no-rasheed-wallace-seattle-supersonics-why/amp
    Short but insightful article, sort of putting onto official record what we've always generally suspected over the years. The key portions:
    The gaming company has an agreement with the National Basketball Retired Players Association, which gives them the rights to use the likenesses of former players, but not all of them. Some players actually choose to opt out of the RPA agreement. Those who aren’t a part of it can sign a separate deal with 2K Sports if that want to be included in the game.
    Barkley is the most famous example, partially because he’s said in the past that he has certain conditions he wants met. Here’s what he said in 2016 via SI.com:
    “The reason I am not on 2K is because they would not give me money. They make a lot of money on that game. What I said to them was we as players have not done enough for the retired players association. We told the 2K people that our job is to take care of the older players. I don’t even want any money. I said, “Let’s come up with an amount of money for you to give to the retired players union.” They said, “Well we get all the guys the same.” And I said, “Well, we ain’t all the same.” I told them they make a gazillon dollars on that game. They said, ‘Well we are not going to do that .’ So I’m not giving them the right to use my license until they come up with a fair number. I’m not trying to be a pig or greedy. They should donate the money to the retired players. If they would give a million dollars a year to retired players union, they can use my likeness.”
    ...
    Singh mentioned that Caron Butler found out he wasn’t initially included on all-time Washington Wizards team. He reached out to Singh, who answered immediately, and now the company and the swingman are working on an agreement to get him into the game.
    Wow! 1 million a year for the rights to Chuck..That's crazy and I'm a Sixers fan. If 2k goes down that hole who knows what some of these guys will ask for in the future..
    NINJAK2
    Wow! 1 million a year for the rights to Chuck..That's crazy and I'm a Sixers fan. If 2k goes down that hole who knows what some of these guys will ask for in the future..

    The million alone is crazy. Donating that every year? C'mon! But that's his prerogative. Hopefully people understand Chucks position and 2Ks as well. It's cool that it looks like Caron may end up in game.
    I think a Million is a lot  to ask for but, $750 to get chucks likeness and maybe even  Reggie and others each year would be  reasonable.  I would look at it as production cost especially if they sell 3 million at regular price and probably another 1 million at a sales price.  You looking at $180 - $200 million in sales.  Probably shave off $10 million in  production  cost another $10  million in  marketing , and  Player agreement costs , probably another $10  million in  NBA license lease.
    I don't think Chuck is asking for too much at all. He wants the million to go to the Players association not himself. 2K makes soo much money so 1 million certainly shouldn't break them.
    PippenFan
    I don't think Chuck is asking for too much at all. He wants the million to go to the Players association not himself. 2K makes soo much money so 1 million certainly shouldn't break them.

    THIS times ten. But it seem like im going to have to continue to pray even harder now for this ice to break.
    The 89-90 Cavaliers that were in 2K17 have changed to the 88-89 Cavaliers. Is that just an error on the infographic, or was that team changed?
    Seriously curious how big 2K18 download file is right now.
    Australian internet is garbage - if they only let PC users pre-download 1 day before launch, I won't get to play for 2 days (allowing for download)...... again.
    But, glass half full? Amazing how many teams are in. Seriously AMAZING.
    PippenFan
    I don't think Chuck is asking for too much at all. He wants the million to go to the Players association not himself. 2K makes soo much money so 1 million certainly shouldn't break them.

    Lol I just did some simplistic math, 2K says they sold 8.5+ million copies last year. If all 8.5 million were the base $60 version of the game, it would add up to $510 million. Doesn't account for the + on 8.5+ and it doesn't account for the number of $100 or $150 editions sold. That's still insane.
    Not to mention the sheer amount of VC purchases, or people who purchased the All Time college teams for $15. I have to imagine they made close to $800 million.
    Barkley might say that publicly, but there's probably more to it. I'm really wondering why he allowed his likeliness to be used for the 92 dream team and was thus in 2k17 MyTeam...what's the difference?
    GoDucks1224
    Lol I just did some simplistic math, 2K says they sold 8.5+ million copies last year. If all 8.5 million were the base $60 version of the game, it would add up to $510 million. Doesn't account for the + on 8.5+ and it doesn't account for the number of $100 or $150 editions sold. That's still insane.
    Not to mention the sheer amount of VC purchases, or people who purchased the All Time college teams for $15. I have to imagine they made close to $800 million.

    It's not just a case of 'can they afford it', it's whether it's profitable. If they don't think Charles Barkley being in the game is going to generate enough extra revenue to cover the cost, then they're not going to do it. They all have bosses to report to, who are going to ask whether this is a worthwhile expenditure.
    OTMax
    Barkley might say that publicly, but there's probably more to it. I'm really wondering why he allowed his likeliness to be used for the 92 dream team and was thus in 2k17 MyTeam...what's the difference?

    Barkley seems very much like a man of principal..... I could see him thinking "this is an opportunity to stick it to this massive company (2K)" so he's just going for it.....
    Shaq and Jet will soften him at the TNT desk next season with some video game ribbing and he'll cave haha :) ........
    But seriously, probably not.
    PippenFan
    I don't think Chuck is asking for too much at all. He wants the million to go to the Players association not himself. 2K makes soo much money so 1 million certainly shouldn't break them.

    Of course 2K could afford to pay it. But why would they? Outside of Jordan, these legends just don't move the needle sales wise; that includes Barkley. I highly doubt that Barkley alone is worth more than a million. This is a business. 2K has their slotted amount for how much they pay for guys and I'm sure their overall value to the game was factored into it. Outside of Reggie, they have managed to get evey other legend of stature with the pay model they are using. Charles plight is noble and I respect him for that. I understand 2Ks business oriented approach too. Charles could always donate his proceeds to the players union. Something every year is better than nothing, but that's neither here or there...
    Junior Moe
    Of course 2K could afford to pay it. But why would they? Outside of Jordan, these legends just don't move the needle sales wise; that includes Barkley. I highly doubt that Barkley alone is worth more than a million. This is a business. 2K has their slotted amount for how much they pay for guys and I'm sure their overall value to the game was factored into it. Outside of Reggie, they have managed to get evey other legend of stature with the pay model they are using. Charles plight is noble and I respect him for that. I understand 2Ks business oriented approach too. Charles could always donate his proceeds to the players union. Something every year is better than nothing, but that's neither here or there...

    I agree with this.
    I'd love Barkley in. But his involvement wouldn't add $1M in sales. It would just excite us (people already buying the game).....
    Sad, but true.
    Hey 2K, just invest your resources in making the legends more detailed and we'll forget Barkley's first name haha.
    VDusen04
    Short but insightful article, sort of putting onto official record what we've always generally suspected over the years. The key portions:

    This is some good stuff. I love and miss College Hoops 2K. I'm always thinking of a way that it could come back legally and be profitable.
    Seeing that there's a retired players association is huge in my mind. Between retired player association and the current player association 2K could totally rake in the dough with MyTeam cards and stuff. They could even have "what ifs" cards for the LeBron, Kobe and KGs who never went to college. For the current game they could have generic but real looking players like your teammates in MYCareer. Or even guys made from this years CAP that you can't edit to infringe on college players likeness to protect 2K, the NCAA and the schools from lawsuits. It wouldn't hurt to have the real coaches and their systemlike they had in CH2K7. Literally copy and paste CH2K8 from there. Soundtrack and all.
    There's an online money making component and the stars (LeBron, KD, Steph) are there to drive interest. There could even be a MC story that you could continue with in NBA2K. NBA2K sold 8.5 mil; couldn't a College Hoops game like the one i described sell a million or so if advertised? Pipe dream, I know. But it's fun to imagine...
    PippenFan
    I don't think Chuck is asking for too much at all. He wants the million to go to the Players association not himself. 2K makes soo much money so 1 million certainly shouldn't break them.

    midwestking100
    THIS times ten. But it seem like im going to have to continue to pray even harder now for this ice to break.

    It's a lot to spend to acquire one player and will set an even more expensive precedent moving forward. They most likely already have a budget for these things anyway.
    You can have chuck for a million and lose several other things or let chuck be chuck and maybe he'll come around. It's easy to say when it's not your money.
    If they cave for Chuck who's to say Chris Webber doesn't want to renegotiate? Or Kareem? Or Kenny Smith or whatever role player with an inflated ego? Yes they could add chuck and lose 20 guys they have already because they think they can get more too
    Kstat
    If they cave for Chuck who's to say Chris Webber doesn't want to renegotiate? Or Kareem? Or Kenny Smith or whoever with an inflated ego? Yes they could add chuck and lose 20 guys they have already because they think they can get more too

    Exactly. Not just that but guys that were half of what Charles is/was will want 500k and stuff which would add up.
    Their approach to this is fine. Guys saying 2k should do it just for Charles think they have seen enough John Smiths and John Davis' on these rosters -- wait til 2k does that, they haven't seen anything.
    I think the worst part is that Chuck made his demands public so if he gets in the game everyone will know why and for how much.
    Best solution is to maybe do a joint donation to the retired players where 2K donates 500K and Chuck matches it. At least they can make that case to anyone else to put their money where their mouth is.
    Junior Moe
    Of course 2K could afford to pay it. But why would they? Outside of Jordan, these legends just don't move the needle sales wise; that includes Barkley. I highly doubt that Barkley alone is worth more than a million. This is a business. 2K has their slotted amount for how much they pay for guys and I'm sure their overall value to the game was factored into it. Outside of Reggie, they have managed to get evey other legend of stature with the pay model they are using. Charles plight is noble and I respect him for that. I understand 2Ks business oriented approach too. Charles could always donate his proceeds to the players union. Something every year is better than nothing, but that's neither here or there...

    I don't think it would just get Barkley in though. I found this recent article last night that convinces me that they could possibly get Barkley, Miller and some others if 2k plays ball on the million for the retired players association.
    Due to a licensing issue between 2K Sports and the NBA Players Association, Reggie Miller was left off of the "NBA 2K18" all-time Pacers team, which features Indiana's most notable players in the history of the franchise.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/reggie-miller-isn-nba2k18-all-time-pacers-team-article-1.3442676
    Kstat
    I think the worst part is that Chuck made his demands public so if he gets in the game everyone will know why and for how much.
    Best solution is to maybe do a joint donation to the retired players where 2K donates 500K and Chuck matches it. At least they can make that case to anyone else to put their money where their mouth is.

    Chuck never demanded 1 million dollars for himself.
    PippenFan
    Chuck never demanded 1 million dollars for himself.

    Doesn't matter. Money is money no matter who it goes to.
    Who's to say that Olajuwon won't want a million for his favorite charity? Or mutombo? Or Iverson might want that money donated to himself? If one player can publicly get a million from 2K it just encourages everyone else to try it.
    astone1996
    I wish there was a way to only get one of each player into the fantasy draft pool. Then I would use it all the time.
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    There is a way.
    Kstat
    Doesn't matter. Money is money no matter who it goes to.
    Who's to say that Olajuwon won't want a million for his favorite charity? Or mutombo? Or Iverson might want that money donated to himself? If one player can publicly get a million from 2K it just encourages everyone else to try it.

    He wants the million dollars to go to the Retired players association so they'd all be getting a piece of it anyways, and if they aren't in the association already something like this could encourage more ex players to get involved with it.
    Sometimes you have to spend to make more. 2K would be fine.
    PippenFan
    He wants the million dollars to go to the Retired players association so they'd all be getting a piece of it anyways, and if they aren't in the association already something like this could encourage more ex players to get involved with it.
    Sometimes you have to spend to make more. 2K would be fine.

    They'd be fine with 1 million. Then they'd predictably lose some because others would demand a million for whatever reason. You're acting like Barkley is the one player that 2K has issues signing.
    Think what you want dude. At the end of the day Barkley is being very reasonable with this offer for retired players and I strongly hope 2k listens. The man is one of the 50 greatest to ever step foot on an NBA basketball court and he deserves to be honored in this video game just as much as Jordan, Wilt and the rest of them we have on board.
    So does Reggie Miller and others as well.
    If Barkley somehow gets Reggie involved in this + some others, then things would get interesting for 2k. Knowing Reggie though, he would never do it and 2k is not going to pay $1 million every year for just the use of Barkley. Ironically, Barkley is already in the game as his Dream Team version so his likeliness is already being used
    PippenFan
    I don't think it would just get Barkley in though. I found this recent article last night that convinces me that they could possibly get Barkley, Miller and some others if 2k plays ball on the million for the retired players association.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/reggie-miller-isn-nba2k18-all-time-pacers-team-article-1.3442676

    Whatever the case may be, Barkley and Miller aren't playing ball. That's cool. I honestly don't think that either is worth the extra trouble in terms of money or interest they'd bring to the game. We already have Jordan and Bird and Magic and the rest. They are in the game some how. If that same process isn't good enough for these two then forget them. This game has grown exponentially without them. Why bow down to them now? If they want to be in they game they could be in the game. Jordan I get. 2K11 is what shot the game to prominence. Giving these guys more because "2K has it" now is just crazy to me. I'm sorry.
    KareemEasy
    It will take 30 minutes to go through the selection menu
    I believe 2K hinted that they may have sub-menus this year to toggle between classic, current, and whatever else is out there.
    I wish 2k would just give us wwe2k CAP system where you can use scanned faces. The community won't have to worry about missing players anymore.
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    Goffs
    I wish 2k would just give us wwe2k CAP system where you can use scanned faces. The community won't have to worry about missing players anymore.
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    Plus pre made models with the right skin tone and body shape.
    Hair styles that clearly belong to certain players available to apply to the creations.
    Jumpshots
    Dunk animations
    Mannerisms in general.
    2k17 sold more than 4,5 million copies.
    Charles Barkley wants 1 million.
    So, if 2k raise the price by 1 dollar, they would made 4,5 million more and would be able to bring Chuck to the game and maybe other.
    Ok, the consumers would pay for Chuck, but only 1 dollar. What do you guys think?
    TonGunne
    2k17 sold more than 4,5 million copies.
    Charles Barkley wants 1 million.
    So, if 2k raise the price by 1 dollar, they would made 4,5 million more and would be able to bring Chuck to the game and maybe other.
    Ok, the consumers would pay for Chuck, but only 1 dollar. What do you guys think?

    I've always thought that having Barkley as DLC would be a good compromise. The money raised could go to the retired players association. Barkley could be in the game for those who want him. And 2K wouldn't have to pay his insane fee. Everybody wins.
    Junior Moe
    I've always thought that having Barkley as DLC would be a good compromise. The money raised could go to the retired players association. Barkley could be in the game for those who want him. And 2K wouldn't have to pay his insane fee. Everybody wins.

    ....and a year from now they've opened the door for 100 more players to want the same deal.
    Kstat
    ....and a year from now they've opened the door for 100 more players to want the same deal.

    That's possible. I just think that it could be a good work around for Charles and his circumstances. And honestly, I don't think it would work or really be worth it. I couldn't see a million people paying 1$ for Barkley as DLC and he has name recognition. The other players outside of Jordan wouldn't sniff whatever Charles would get so I wouldn't see it as a trend. But who knows...
    Wow, I'm late to this. But I didn't know they added 98-99 Knicks. I've wanted that team for so long.
    Insane depth in classic teams. Reallly no complaints.
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    Junior Moe
    That's possible. I just think that it could be a good work around for Charles and his circumstances. And honestly, I don't think it would work or really be worth it. I couldn't see a million people paying 1$ for Barkley as DLC and he has name recognition. The other players outside of Jordan wouldn't sniff whatever Charles would get so I wouldn't see it as a trend. But who knows...

    Well Barkley said he doesn't want a cent of it so..
    Kstat
    ....and a year from now they've opened the door for 100 more players to want the same deal.

    2k would make the money back via VC sells every time.
    PippenFan
    Well Barkley said he doesn't want a cent of it so..

    I know. But he wants a million for the retired players every year. I don't think that a million of the 8.5 million who bought NBA 2K would pay 1$ for Chuck. I just don't see that much interest in him. So then what?
    One team would be really nice would be a 01-02 Bucks squad. Think they are slept on. Would much rather have them then a few teams.
    Prime Ray Allen, Glenn Robinson, Sam Cassell, Tim Thomas, Darvin Ham, young Michael Redd.
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    Junior Moe
    I know. But he wants a million for the retired players every year. I don't think that a million of the 8.5 million who bought NBA 2K would pay 1$ for Chuck. I just don't see that much interest in him. So then what?

    I think you're underestimating old school Phoenix Suns and Philadelphia 76ers fans out there who would gladly chip in to make 2k that money back.
    Let's say 2k decided to make Barkley the cover athlete for next years Legend edition and basically confirmed those 2 classic teams. That would get ALOT of people to buy it.
    Even more if it also comes with Reggie Miller and his teams.
    PippenFan
    I think you're underestimating old school Phoenix Suns and Philadelphia 76ers fans out there who would gladly chip in to make 2k that money back.
    Let's say 2k decided to make Barkley the cover athlete for next years Legend edition and basically confirmed those 2 classic teams. That would get ALOT of people to buy it.
    Even more if it also comes with Reggie Miller and his teams.

    It would excite 99.9% of the fans that already buy the game.
    PippenFan
    I think you're underestimating old school Phoenix Suns and Philadelphia 76ers fans out there who would gladly chip in to make 2k that money back.
    Let's say 2k decided to make Barkley the cover athlete for next years Legend edition and basically confirmed those 2 classic teams. That would get ALOT of people to buy it.
    Even more if it also comes with Reggie Miller and his teams.

    Plus we can revisit and/or recreate a lot of rivalries that those teams had with others such as Boston, Detroit and Chicago for those sixers teams. Rockets, Sonics, and Knicks for those suns teams
    PippenFan
    It would also excite even more who haven't been buying the game.

    Not enough to make a real dent in profits. And it would open the door for historic mode costs to skyrocket and the entire thing to be dead inside of 2 years. It's a stupidly short sighted move and thank god they don't want any part of it.
    I'll deal with not having Barkley over having him and losing a dozen other high profile players that suddenly think there might be more money for them as well.
    PippenFan
    I think you're underestimating old school Phoenix Suns and Philadelphia 76ers fans out there who would gladly chip in to make 2k that money back.
    Let's say 2k decided to make Barkley the cover athlete for next years Legend edition and basically confirmed those 2 classic teams. That would get ALOT of people to buy it.
    Even more if it also comes with Reggie Miller and his teams.

    I think you're overestimating the impact Charles or these teams would have. Like someone else said, the people it would excite the most, retroheads, already buy the game. Now Charles is nice bonus content I'm sure many would pay for. But nowhere near a million. His impact isn't that great. It makes little to no financial sense for 2K. Even the DLC route would be more of a goodwill type deal than anything groundbreaking. Like you I do hope to see Barkley and Miller some day but I understand why that isn't and may never be so.
    Kstat
    Not enough to make a real dent in profits. And it would open the door for historic mode costs to skyrocket and the entire thing to be dead inside of 2 years. It's a stupidly short sighted move and thank god they don't want any part of it.
    I'll deal with not having Barkley over having him and losing a dozen other high profile players that suddenly think there might be more money for them as well.

    They'd be getting more money because the 1 million dollars is for the entire retired players association. You're not making any sense dude. You're also underestimating Barkley fan base.
    We're talking about Phoenix Suns, 76ers, and Rockets fans. Not to mention the fans all over the rest of the world who simply liked Charles Barkley. If you seriously think his inclusion would do little to nothing for the sells than you don't know what you're talking about.
    It's mainly about money with most of these guys that hold out. It's a respect thing where they see other legends making (at most) a few thousand and they feel that their "name" is worth more than that, and I actually respect that. The world won't end if Barkley and Reggie hold out for unrealistic sums of money in perpetuity. At the end of the day it's just a video game.
    Webber dropped himself out of the game for years because he wanted more money and he caved in. Same with Kareem. Maybe 2K met them halfway, who knows? But the thing that made it possible is that we don't know. Barkley's ego is making this impossible because he wants everyone to know that he thinks his name is worth a million dollars, so if we see him in a game with an NBA liscense, people will think that's exactly what he got, and players like Webber that held out for years will think about holding out again for their piece of the pie. Doesn't matter if it's going to charity or whatever, Barkley will be seen as strong arming 2K out of a million dollars and it opens the floodgates.
    This isn't about Barkley wanting to take care of retired players. 2K already does that. It's about Charles wanting to stroke his own inflated ego and not giving a crap about the consequences because he thinks video games are for losers.
    Lol man, Charles has fans but they are either already buying the game or don't even play video games. In which case neither equals profit. If he has fans that already buy the game then thats nothing new. If he has fans who don't play games, I highly doubt they'll buy a system and the game just because he's included.
    I don't see people passing on the game because the exclusion of Charles if they really want a basketball game. He's not a deal breaker or a deal maker. I can't think of a player that is with all 2k has to offer on their games these days.
    Bottom line is historic players are a passion project for the developers, not a sales driver. 2K12 was a fantastic novelty but that's long since worn off.
    2K could pull every single retired player next season and their sales decrease might not even surpass the money they saved on liscensing rights. Yeah a handful of OS regulars with an inflated sense of importance will be out with pitchforks. Nobody will care.
    Bottom line: don't rock the boat.
    Kstat
    Bottom line is historic players are a passion project for the developers, not a sales driver. 2K12 was a fantastic novelty but that's long since worn off.
    2K could pull every single retired player next season and their sales decrease might not even surpass the money they saved on liscensing rights. Yeah a handful of OS regulars with an inflated sense of importance will be out with pitchforks. Nobody will care.
    Bottom line: don't rock the boat.

    I totally agree. I'm surprised 2K has done as much as they have this year with the classic teams. Somehow that still isn't enough. I could totally see a scenario though where tweeting trying to get all these guys in ends up having the opposite effect where they over value themselves and 2K passes on more and more of them. Jordan is the only legend worth a damn sales wise, look up 2K11 where he first appeared. Barkley, Reggie and the rest are just throw ins. They'd be nice to have but they aren't worth the trouble at the end of the day. I'm sure 2K knows that. You have most of the players already, is it really that hard to create Barkley and Reggie? I just don't get it.
    Junior Moe
    I totally agree. I'm surprised 2K has done as much as they have this year with the classic teams. Somehow that still isn't enough. I could totally see a scenario though where tweeting trying to get all these guys in ends up having the opposite effect where they over value themselves and 2K passes on more and more of them. Jordan is the only legend worth a damn sales wise, look up 2K11 where he first appeared. Barkley, Reggie and the rest are just throw ins. They'd be nice to have but they aren't worth the trouble at the end of the day. I'm sure 2K knows that. You have most of the players already, is it really that hard to create Barkley and Reggie? I just don't get it.

    Well, as someone that uses classic teams in online play I totally get it. I'm actually the type of 2K gamer that needs them the most. But I'm trying to see the entire picture instead of presuming to tell someone else what to do with their money. The growth of historic teams are already something or a minor miracle. Sometimes you have to be wary of overreaching.
    Wondering: has Andrew Toney ever commented on his 2K absence? Maybe it's about money with him and maybe it isn't but he's always been the most puzzling 2K omission for me. You'd think he of all the guys not currently in the game would care about the much-deserved recognition.
    He was an all time great volume shooter whose career was cut short by bad feet. There are a handful of guys from that past that I think would be fan favorites in 2K and he's one of them.
    The 2 players we have been begging for are agin left out. Why add 2011 -2015 teams ? We have used them in 2k11 through 2k15 . Get Barkely and Miller in the game then add Sixers ,Suns and Rockets. For Miller add the team with Mullin and the team with Jalen Rose. **** make it a luxuary editon and charge $10 more to pay those money hungry dudes. Wish they would bring back the option to download a team and not just a whole roster.
    babman
    The 2 players we have been begging for are agin left out. Why add 2011 -2015 teams ? We have used them in 2k11 through 2k15 . Get Barkely and Miller in the game then add Sixers ,Suns and Rockets. For Miller add the team with Mullin and the team with Jalen Rose. **** make it a luxuary editon and charge $10 more to pay those money hungry dudes. Wish they would bring back the option to download a team and not just a whole roster.

    You don't seem to understand how licensing players works. If they don't want to be in the game, they won't be in the game. Reggie Miller has no interest in being in 2K, it's not a money issue with him. He doesn't like video games, and thinks kids should stop playing them. Charles will only be in if 2K does something that jeopardizes their ability to get players in the future, concede to his million dollar demands. Which then opens it up for other players to demand the same.

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