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Kings Guard Gaming Point Guard Eric Donald Suspended For The 2019 NBA 2K League Season

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Kings Guard Gaming Point Guard Eric Donald Suspended For The 2019 NBA 2K League Season

NBA 2K League Managing Director Brendan Donohue, has announced Kings Guard Gaming point guard, Eric Donald has been suspended for the 2019 NBA 2K League season for violating the player code of conduct. The violation was a result of Eric’s sharing of inappropriate and offensive videos over social media.

Donald is required to complete sensitivity training in order to be reinstated for the 2020 NBA 2K League season.

Kings Guard Gaming will receive a compensatory third-round pick in today’s 2019 NBA 2K League Draft.

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  1. Word is he posted a Meme or GIF on his Twitter. I don't even think it offended anyone but the league took action and suspended him immediately. They must have a really strict code of conduct because these guys aren't getting warnings. 1st violation is a straight up suspension.
    Sucks for the Kings because he would've arguably been one of the Top Locks in season 2.
    Korrupted
    Word is he posted a Meme or GIF on his Twitter. I don't even think it offended anyone but the league took action and suspended him immediately. They must have a really strict code of conduct because these guys aren't getting warnings. 1st violation is a straight up suspension.
    Sucks for the Kings because he would've arguably been one of the Top Locks in season 2.

    ...Wait a second. You're saying they suspended him for having an opinion?
    Trackball
    ...Wait a second. You're saying they suspended him for having an opinion?

    Lol. Maybe so. Whatever he posted wasn't that bad according to the people that seen it before it was deleted. I guess you have to super careful on what you post or say on social media since you're representing a professional organization. Even if its harmless SMH.
    They had to suspend him. You talking millions of dollars on the line, brand deals, sponsorship, etc. 2K trying to grow this league they just started. That type of stuff will kill the league. People better learn you just can't say anything when you are representing a brand. Always been like that and always will be like that.
    If anything is even remotely sexist or controversial, they are not going to let it fly.
    You do realize esports is a billion dollar industry and been around for over a decade right ? That colleges are giving out esports scholarships to kids. That they are trying to make esports an Olympic event too right ? Asia has already made esports an Olympic event for their 2022 Asian Games.
    He is not the first to be suspended from esports. Hell you have had some guys banned for life over the years. Those 2K league teams are connected to NBA teams. So therefore you are representing that NBA team brand.
    Gotmadskillzson
    They had to suspend him. You talking millions of dollars on the line, brand deals, sponsorship, etc. 2K trying to grow this league they just started. That type of stuff will kill the league. People better learn you just can't say anything when you are representing a brand. Always been like that and always will be like that.
    If anything is even remotely sexist or controversial, they are not going to let it fly.

    LeBron James openly endorsed Presidential candidates and appeared at their campaign rallies.
    He is not the first to be suspended from esports. Hell you have had some guys banned for life over the years.

    For rigging games. Not for having an opinion.
    Where did "having an opinion" come from?
    It's in the OP article. He shared something offensive over social media....it doesnt matter if some didnt find it offensive....it cant be something that risks losing s sponsor or gaining the entire league negative publicity.
    TBH, its good they caught it quickly and he deleted it when he did so it didnt go viral....
    Kings Guard Gaming Point Guard

    I had to read this about 5 times to figure out what the heck was going on.
    --
    I also don't think many of you read the article when you're talking about "having an opinion":
    The violation was a result of Eric’s sharing of inappropriate and offensive videos over social media.

    I don't care if you guys didn't find it offensive if you saw it. His employer did and that's all that matters.
    The 24th Letter
    It's in the OP article. He shared something offensive over social media....it doesnt matter if some didnt find it offensive....it cant be something that risks losing s sponsor or gaining the entire league negative publicity.

    Do you realize the implications of what you just said?
    Because we don't know what HE said.
    Was he just showing some stupid frog? Was he saying "kill all (racial slur)"? We don't know. The latter I get--that could be seen as an actual threat. If it was just some dumb cartoon frog, then the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
    What YOU say is that if ANYONE finds it offensive, then it doesn't matter what everyone else says. We MUST appease THAT ONE GUY.
    Besides, I don't think you've thought this through.
    Let's say I find your typo offensive. "losing s sponsor"? Yeah, you could fix it, but I just quoted it here for posterity. Does that mean you should lose your mod job? By your own words, it doesn't matter what others think of it. It only matters that SOMEONE was offended. Of course I'm fine with it, but it could happen.
    Show me what he said before it was deleted. Show me. Put it in spoiler tags if you have to. If it was really bad, fine, I'll agree with you and shut up. If it was a Trump WWE thing, then they should suspend LeBron James for actually speaking at a campaign rally two years ago. If it was something that commanded we bring harm to a person or group of people, okay, fine, you're right.
    Context matters. And I, for one, am just sick and tired of walking on eggshells with every word I say, and having to take every stupid precaution to make snowflakes happy. I am autistic, and I can take a joke about my condition. Why can't they?
    This is a world where race car drivers get disciplined for things their FATHER said DECADES AGO. And I'm sick of it. I bet a lot of you readers are too.
    Got a strong feeling I'll get banned for this, or at least a yellow card. Fine. It's just a gaming website. No big deal. I'll live. But I'll leave you with this:
    "Those who are determined to be 'offended' will find a provocation somewhere. There is nothing we can do to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt."
    --Christopher Hitchens
    Trackball
    LeBron James openly endorsed Presidential candidates and appeared at their campaign rallies.

    For rigging games. Not for having an opinion.

    Im sure their CBAs are different.
    Trackball
    Do you realize the implications of what you just said?
    Because we don't know what HE said.
    Was he just showing some stupid frog? Was he saying "kill all (racial slur)"? We don't know. The latter I get--that could be seen as an actual threat. If it was just some dumb cartoon frog, then the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
    What YOU say is that if ANYONE finds it offensive, then it doesn't matter what everyone else says. We MUST appease THAT ONE GUY.
    Besides, I don't think you've thought this through.
    Let's say I find your typo offensive. "losing s sponsor"? Yeah, you could fix it, but I just quoted it here for posterity. Does that mean you should lose your mod job? By your own words, it doesn't matter what others think of it. It only matters that SOMEONE was offended. Of course I'm fine with it, but it could happen.
    Show me what he said before it was deleted. Show me. Put it in spoiler tags if you have to. If it was really bad, fine, I'll agree with you and shut up. If it was a Trump WWE thing, then they should suspend LeBron James for actually speaking at a campaign rally two years ago. If it was something that commanded we bring harm to a person or group of people, okay, fine, you're right.
    Context matters. And I, for one, am just sick and tired of walking on eggshells with every word I say, and having to take every stupid precaution to make snowflakes happy. I am autistic, and I can take a joke about my condition. Why can't they?
    This is a world where race car drivers get disciplined for things their FATHER said DECADES AGO. And I'm sick of it. I bet a lot of you readers are too.
    Got a strong feeling I'll get banned for this, or at least a yellow card. Fine. It's just a gaming website. No big deal. I'll live. But I'll leave you with this:
    "Those who are determined to be 'offended' will find a provocation somewhere. There is nothing we can do to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt."
    --Christopher Hitchens

    You said all that but it doesnt matter. If that "One Guy" who is offended is the CEO of Nike or something similar who has the power to pull a multi-million dollar brand endorsement you better believe any organization will suspend an employee/contractor.
    You talking personal, they are talking business in this case. Thats the difference
    Trackball
    Do you realize the implications of what you just said?
    Because we don't know what HE said.
    Was he just showing some stupid frog? Was he saying "kill all (racial slur)"? We don't know. The latter I get--that could be seen as an actual threat. If it was just some dumb cartoon frog, then the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
    What YOU say is that if ANYONE finds it offensive, then it doesn't matter what everyone else says. We MUST appease THAT ONE GUY.
    Besides, I don't think you've thought this through.
    Let's say I find your typo offensive. "losing s sponsor"? Yeah, you could fix it, but I just quoted it here for posterity. Does that mean you should lose your mod job? By your own words, it doesn't matter what others think of it. It only matters that SOMEONE was offended. Of course I'm fine with it, but it could happen.
    Show me what he said before it was deleted. Show me. Put it in spoiler tags if you have to. If it was really bad, fine, I'll agree with you and shut up. If it was a Trump WWE thing, then they should suspend LeBron James for actually speaking at a campaign rally two years ago. If it was something that commanded we bring harm to a person or group of people, okay, fine, you're right.
    Context matters. And I, for one, am just sick and tired of walking on eggshells with every word I say, and having to take every stupid precaution to make snowflakes happy. I am autistic, and I can take a joke about my condition. Why can't they?
    This is a world where race car drivers get disciplined for things their FATHER said DECADES AGO. And I'm sick of it. I bet a lot of you readers are too.
    Got a strong feeling I'll get banned for this, or at least a yellow card. Fine. It's just a gaming website. No big deal. I'll live. But I'll leave you with this:
    "Those who are determined to be 'offended' will find a provocation somewhere. There is nothing we can do to please the fanatics, and it is degrading to make the attempt."
    --Christopher Hitchens
    You dont have to worry about a yellow card for overthinking it here...it happens.
    Most of the 2K Leaguers are on Twitter, and are into a variety of things. They still tweet, repost comments/ videos etc on the daily. They're certainly not walking on eggshells and It's not like guys are getting banned left & right for trivial things...if anything, this guy was on the tamer side.
    Pretty common sense would tell us he didnt get suspended for "posting a frog" considering what some of the other leaguers post.
    The 24th Letter
    You dont have to worry about a yellow card for overthinking it here...it happens.
    Most of the 2K Leaguers are on Twitter, and are into a variety of things. They still tweet, repost comments/ videos etc on the daily. They're certainly not walking on eggshells and It's not like guys are getting banned left & right for trivial things...if anything, this guy was on the tamer side.
    Pretty common sense would tell us he didnt get suspended for "posting a frog" considering what some of the other leaguers post.

    First of all, thank you for tolerating me. I seriously though that explosion of all I'd held in for so long would've resulted in major disciplinary action.
    Anyway, that's the core of the issue, isn't it? We don't know exactly what he did.
    It's entirely possible the higher-ups were right and he posted something really scummy. I don't know, and you don't either. I'd never heard of the man until this--I found out his Twitter handle was @timelycook, so I went there to see what it was, but it's gone now.
    The point is, we need to know what he posted. Until we find out, this is just hot air.
    But if it turns out to be something that makes us go "...Wait, that's it?!", then maybe the powers that be need to stop 'sperging out and making ME look like the normal one, and let him play.
    Did I mention I can joke about my own condition? Because I just did.
    You don't need to know what he posted. Whatever he posted violated the code of conduct for the business- which he would have been asked to review and required to sign. The business took appropriate action when he violated those terms.
    It is similar to an employee who is "no longer with a company" for unknown reasons or a college suspends an athlete for a "violation of team rules."
    Trackball
    First of all, thank you for tolerating me. I seriously though that explosion of all I'd held in for so long would've resulted in major disciplinary action.
    Anyway, that's the core of the issue, isn't it? We don't know exactly what he did.
    It's entirely possible the higher-ups were right and he posted something really scummy. I don't know, and you don't either. I'd never heard of the man until this--I found out his Twitter handle was @timelycook, so I went there to see what it was, but it's gone now.
    The point is, we need to know what he posted. Until we find out, this is just hot air.
    But if it turns out to be something that makes us go "...Wait, that's it?!", then maybe the powers that be need to stop 'sperging out and making ME look like the normal one, and let him play.
    Did I mention I can joke about my own condition? Because I just did.
    You really can't be that dense. At the end of day, he's still an employee who have to follow certain codes of conduct that he agreed to when he accepted becoming an eSports participate.
    If you feel that strongly about this issue, then I welcome you to go to work tomorrow, say/post whatever you feel like is "not offensive and people need to have thicker skins", then you can let us know how that ended for you.
    Like many have said, we don’t need to know what he posted for the team and league to have suspended him and it doesn’t matter if it’s not offensive to you or me, he violated the term of the code of conduct he signed. It’s like me, being in the Army, coming in with a haircut that’s half an inch too long and getting an Article 15(a reprimand) for it right off the bat, while most people would see it as an overreaction, they’re within their right to do that because I violated one of the many codes of conduct I agreed to when I signed up.
    Also LeBron endorsing a political candidate is nowhere near posting offensive material on social media and it’s not against any code of conduct I’ve seen with the NBA.
    JHamilton9
    You don't need to know what he posted. Whatever he posted violated the code of conduct for the business- which he would have been asked to review and required to sign. The business took appropriate action when he violated those terms.
    It is similar to an employee who is "no longer with a company" for unknown reasons or a college suspends an athlete for a "violation of team rules."

    Are you afraid it would be bad for business if it turns out what he posted was nothing special?
    Don't be.
    What did he say?
    ksuttonjr76
    You really can't be that dense. At the end of day, he's still an employee who have to follow certain codes of conduct that he agreed to when he accepted becoming an eSports participate.
    If you feel that strongly about this issue, then I welcome you to go to work tomorrow, say/post whatever you feel like is "not offensive and people need to have thicker skins", then you can let us know how that ended for you.

    What did he say?
    Besides, I'd rather have thick skin than thin skin.
    "I'm mad at him!"
    "Here's what he did."
    "I don't want to know what he did. I want to be mad at him."
    nova91
    Like many have said, we don’t need to know what he posted for the team and league to have suspended him and it doesn’t matter if it’s not offensive to you or me, he violated the term of the code of conduct he signed. It’s like me, being in the Army, coming in with a haircut that’s half an inch too long and getting an Article 15(a reprimand) for it right off the bat, while most people would see it as an overreaction, they’re within their right to do that because I violated one of the many codes of conduct I agreed to when I signed up.
    Also LeBron endorsing a political candidate is nowhere near posting offensive material on social media and it’s not against any code of conduct I’ve seen with the NBA.

    In the Army example, you know what you did. We don't know what Eric Donald did.
    As for "offensive material," what did he say?
    Trackball
    Are you afraid it would be bad for business if it turns out what he posted was nothing special?
    Don't be.
    What did he say?
    What did he say?
    Besides, I'd rather have thick skin than thin skin.
    "I'm mad at him!"
    "Here's what he did."
    "I don't want to know what he did. I want to be mad at him."
    In the Army example, you know what you did. We don't know what Eric Donald did.
    As for "offensive material," what did he say?

    He knows what he did too and the organization that he signed up with knows as well, it doesn’t matter if the general public knows what exactly he posted that was considered offensive all you need to know is that he got suspended for posting offensive material...if you saw that I got a reprimand with no info as to why, it wouldn’t matter, I still did something in my organizations eyes, no matter how small it may be, that was against the rules to get the reprimand. If info I used in the example comes out to the public later, it still doesn’t matter if they think it was an overreaction, what I did was against the rules I agreed to and I got in trouble for it.
    You may think it was the organization having thin skin, but what you don’t get is, your view of offensive/wrong doesn’t matter in this decision, somewhere in the organization someone whose opinion that matters saw that his post may reflect the organization in a negative light and did something about it.
    Trackball
    The point is, we need to know what he posted. Until we find out, this is just hot air.

    But why do we need to know? It doesn't effect us. He posted something (whatever it was). His superiors either didn't like it or felt it would reflect poorly on them, and he has been punished.
    What reason is there for you, me, or anyone else outside the situation to be informed of the details?
    loso_34
    Victim Olympics.
    I find if amusing how quickly some of yall jumped to defend 2k.
    And I find it amusing that some of you act like you never been employed before....
    Trackball
    Are you afraid it would be bad for business if it turns out what he posted was nothing special?
    Don't be.
    What did he say?
    What did he say?
    Besides, I'd rather have thick skin than thin skin.
    "I'm mad at him!"
    "Here's what he did."
    "I don't want to know what he did. I want to be mad at him."
    In the Army example, you know what you did. We don't know what Eric Donald did.
    As for "offensive material," what did he say?

    Ask Eric Donald if you want to know and if he wants to share it.
    At the end of the day, 2K and the NBA are doing kids a favor giving them these opportunities.
    They have been very clear since the league's inception that their public conduct matters just as much (if not more) than their stick skills.
    The league needs to generate advertising and that's not going to happen if one of their ******* players inadvertently sabotages the whole operation with offensive / closed-minded throwaway comments. They set an example here that it won't be tolerated.
    The details of what he said don't matter. This ain't high school. If anything they're doing the player a favor by keeping it under wraps. The only reason people want to know is to cause controversy, which the league (and player) obviously doesn't want.
    JHamilton9
    You don't need to know what he posted. Whatever he posted violated the code of conduct for the business- which he would have been asked to review and required to sign. The business took appropriate action when he violated those terms.
    It is similar to an employee who is "no longer with a company" for unknown reasons or a college suspends an athlete for a "violation of team rules."

    I agree 100% with this.Pretty much every job has their own set policies for conduct; usually upon hiring you have to read through these policies then sign something to the effect of "I have read and understood all policies and guidelines that apply to me.I understand that violation of policy is subject to disciplinary action up to, and including, termination."
    My favorite part of this thread is the guy whining about "snowflakes" being too sensitive throwing a temper tantrum over some egamer getting disciplined by his employer. not to mention the false equivalence being drawn between Lebron standing up to a white supremacist and this guy doing something offensive on twitter.
    loso_34
    Victim Olympics.
    I find if amusing how quickly some of yall jumped to defend 2k.

    I don't really see a lot of defending 2K in here. I mostly see people pointing out the fact that they are his employer, and they have every right to take action against an employee that they have deemed to have violated the agreed upon terms of conduct. It doesn't matter whether you, or I, or anyone else thinks it's right/wrong. Only the people at the top matter, and they deemed it a violation worthy of a season-long suspension. End of story. That may seem unfair, but that's the real world when you go to work for someone. Especially when you're representing brands as visible as 2K and the NBA.
    Poor Colin :(
    People are missing the point. It's their "Code of Conduct", but the bigger narrative is how much of that is being influenced by an increase of censorship online and in social media as a whole, and was the suspension even warranted.
    "They don't need to tell the public". Sure, and that's a great way to stir up suspicion and speculation among the fan base about what kind of league it'll be, what it's identity will be, and how transparent it will be.
    Being offended is one of the most subjective things there is. So it'd be nice to know if what he posted was really against their code of conduct, or that they are being heavily subjective. Maybe he can sue for wrongful termination.
    Keith01
    Poor Colin :(
    People are missing the point. It's their "Code of Conduct", but the bigger narrative is how much of that is being influenced by an increase of censorship online and in social media as a whole, and was the suspension even warranted.
    "They don't need to tell the public". Sure, and that's a great way to stir up suspicion and speculation among the fan base about what kind of league it'll be, what it's identity will be, and how transparent it will be.
    Being offended is one of the most subjective things there is. So it'd be nice to know if what he posted was really against their code of conduct, or that they are being heavily subjective. Maybe he can sue for wrongful termination.

    Who cares? It's not like there's going to be a public vote by the community whether or not the suspension will be lifted. His EMPLOYER already handled it. It's simple...be mindful of what you post. Very easy lesson to learn.
    ksuttonjr76
    Who cares? It's not like there's going to be a public vote by the community whether or not the suspension will be lifted. His EMPLOYER already handled it. It's simple...be mindful of what you post. Very easy lesson to learn.

    You would think that it's an easy lesson to learn, but for a large segment of society it clearly isn't. Many think that anything said on social media should be free of consequence. Others think that memes don't count as speech. Some don't read, can't grasp, or are just too obstinate to understand what their signing of a contract actually means.
    No matter how many cautionary tales we see, there are always going to be a few that don't get it or have to "be real" and will get themselves canned.
    jfsolo
    You would think that it's an easy lesson to learn, but for a large segment of society it clearly isn't. Many think that anything said on social media should be free of consequence. Others think that memes don't count as speech. Some don't read, can't grasp, or are just too obstinate to understand what their signing of a contract actually means.
    No matter how many cautionary tales we see, there are always going to be a few that don't get it or have to "be real" and will get themselves canned.
    Exactly! It's not rocket science. If you think it MIGHT be offensive, then don't say or post it. I guess people don't care about their jobs or taking care of their family anymore. I know I'm not messing up my good paying job just to post or say a stupid joke.
    Keith01
    Poor Colin :(
    People are missing the point. It's their "Code of Conduct", but the bigger narrative is how much of that is being influenced by an increase of censorship online and in social media as a whole, and was the suspension even warranted.
    "They don't need to tell the public". Sure, and that's a great way to stir up suspicion and speculation among the fan base about what kind of league it'll be, what it's identity will be, and how transparent it will be.
    Being offended is one of the most subjective things there is. So it'd be nice to know if what he posted was really against their code of conduct, or that they are being heavily subjective. Maybe he can sue for wrongful termination.

    dude got suspended.
    so yes it was against their code of conduct lol.
    how hard is this to grasp?
    ksuttonjr76
    Who cares? It's not like there's going to be a public vote by the community whether or not the suspension will be lifted. His EMPLOYER already handled it. It's simple...be mindful of what you post. Very easy lesson to learn.

    Yet (this is just an example) people will debate the Colin Kap vs NFL suspension for months and years, question the integrity of the NFL, question their 'code of conduct' policies, ask for transparency, etc. What's wrong with doing the same here? Especially since an overly-sensitive society can influence these decisions. "Don't post anything offensive". What does that even mean anymore, lol the word 'offensive' has become so flexible that it caters to the hyper sensitive. There used to be more free speech AND they kept their job.
    tru11
    dude got suspended.
    so yes it was against their code of conduct lol.
    how hard is this to grasp?

    Duh. But you're only looking at it one way.
    Keith01
    Yet (this is just an example) people will debate the Colin Kap vs NFL suspension for months and years, question the integrity of the NFL, question their 'code of conduct' policies, ask for transparency, etc. What's wrong with doing the same here? Especially since an overly-sensitive society can influence these decisions. "Don't post anything offensive". What does that even mean anymore, lol the word 'offensive' has become so flexible that it caters to the hyper sensitive. There used to be more free speech AND they kept their job.

    This is not the place or time for that particular conversation...political....
    As for the topic of this thread, it's really not our business what he posted. It's a done deal. The thing that you're forgetting is that it looks like he got suspended BEFORE whatever he posted went viral. Basically, his team monitors their athletes' postings on social media.
    While you arguing about "freedom of speech", is it really that hard to have some common sense about what you should and shouldn't be posting when you representing a company and getting a paycheck from said company? As ADULTS, do you still need someone to tell you what's appropriate or inappropriate to keep your job?
    Feels like we live in a society where too many people believe it's easier to ask for forgiveness later than to ask for permission now.
    Keith01
    Yet (this is just an example) people will debate the Colin Kap vs NFL suspension for months and years, question the integrity of the NFL, question their 'code of conduct' policies, ask for transparency, etc. What's wrong with doing the same here? Especially since an overly-sensitive society can influence these decisions. "Don't post anything offensive". What does that even mean anymore, lol the word 'offensive' has become so flexible that it caters to the hyper sensitive. There used to be more free speech AND they kept their job.

    The reason people debate the Colin Kaepernick vs NFL situation is because he WASN'T suspended by the league. He didn't actually do anything against the league's code of conduct policy, otherwise they would have handed down a suspension/fine while he was still on a roster. Eric Donaldson was deemed by his superiors to have violated the 2K League's code of conduct, received swift disciplinary action, and will be eligible to return after his one-year suspension has expired. That's pretty straight forward. Meanwhile, Kap exercised his free speech, didn't break any official NFL policy, and for that he's been blacklisted by the league.* Those are pretty different situations.
    I also think the kinds of speech in these two cases are much different. Personally, I'm more interested in protecting peaceful protests/demonstrations against preceived injustices and/or inequalities than I am people posting things online that tread into gray areas purely for their own amusement. One of these things is a vital component in the operation of a free and democratic Republic. The other is something that doesn't really serve any kind of meaningful purpose and someone should be able to exercise a little common sense with (especially when you're someone who's potentially in the public eye). I'd elaborate further but I'm going to stop there because I'm already much, much closer to political talk than I would like. I thought it necessary to make a point though. Mods, hopefully I didn't cross a line.
    My advice, especially to people representing a corporate entity, just don't go there. It's really not worth it. There are plenty of funny memes on the Internet that won't potentially land you in hot water. Post one of those.
    *I want to clarify that I know Kap has only ALLEGEDLY been blacklisted. I also know that he wasn't playing good football before he was out of the league, so there's a chance teams just didn't want him for that reason. However, with the QB situation some teams are facing, the idea that not one single team would take a flier on a QB who has a Super Bowl appearance on his resume seems a little suspect. Now, I don't think there's any way you could actually prove it, but I also don't think you have to read between the lines too much to see that he's on a blacklist with the owners, at least in my opinion.
    Pokes404

    *I want to clarify that I know Kap has only ALLEGEDLY been blacklisted. I also know that he wasn't playing good football before he was out of the league, so there's a chance teams just didn't want him for that reason. However, with the QB situation some teams are facing, the idea that not one single team would take a flier on a QB who has a Super Bowl appearance on his resume seems a little suspect. Now, I don't think there's any way you could actually prove it, but I also don't think you have to read between the lines too much to see that he's on a blacklist with the owners, at least in my opinion.

    Great post. Definitely a difference between the two. I think it's safe to take "ALLEGEDLY" out. Most people with common sense know Kaep was blacklisted from the league. People try to use the whole he wasn't a good enough QB but get silent when you mention QB's like Josh Johnson and Nathan Peterman.
    On topic, Hopefully the new wave of 2kleague players take heed to what happened to TimelyCook and Boo Painter. Regardless if you think it's harmless, don't even take the chance of posting something or doing something that will put your 2k career at risk. It just isn't worth it.
    Korrupted
    Great post. Definitely a difference between the two. I think it's safe to take "ALLEGEDLY" out. Most people with common sense know Kaep was blacklisted from the league. People try to use the whole he wasn't a good enough QB but get silent when you mention QB's like Josh Johnson and Nathan Peterman.
    On topic, Hopefully the new wave of 2kleague players take heed to what happened to TimelyCook and Boo Painter. Regardless if you think it's harmless, don't even take the chance of posting something or doing something that will put your 2k career at risk. It just isn't worth it.

    Keith01
    Duh. But you're only looking at it one way.

    what other way is there?
    its their code of conduct.
    if you agree to it then you have to follow it.
    its really that simple.
    dont like it well you are free to do something else.........
    tru11
    what other way is there?
    its their code of conduct.
    if you agree to it then you have to follow it.
    its really that simple.
    dont like it well you are free to do something else.........

    Plenty of different ways to look at it.
    - Marketing/brand angle. 2K League already had transparency issues in last year's combine with the Cav's GM.
    - Code of Conduct can be extremely subjective when it comes to what actually counts as "offensive".
    - Society is soft and how that influences this
    I'm just saying, there's always 2 sides. Yet you still see ppl whining about Kapernick. That was the "league's choice" too, it was a business decision, he's bad for biz.
    2KL needs a player's union.
    Keith01
    Plenty of different ways to look at it.
    - Marketing/brand angle. 2K League already had transparency issues in last year's combine with the Cav's GM.
    - Code of Conduct can be extremely subjective when it comes to what actually counts as "offensive".
    - Society is soft and how that influences this
    I'm just saying, there's always 2 sides. Yet you still see ppl whining about Kapernick. That was the "league's choice" too, it was a business decision, he's bad for biz.
    2KL needs a player's union.

    At this moment there is just their side.
    Its their code of conduct and they decide what is offensive and what is not.
    You either sign it and thus agreed to it or you dont and move on.
    Again its that simple.
    If things change then sure there might be other ways to look at it but at this moment that aint the case.
    tru11
    At this moment there is just their side.
    Its their code of conduct and they decide what is offensive and what is not.
    You either sign it and thus agreed to it or you dont and move on.
    Again its that simple.
    If things change then sure there might be other ways to look at it but at this moment that aint the case.

    I wouldn't worry about it anymore...in his world, I guess he thinks it's okay to agree to whatever Code of Conduct to get whatever position then do whatever you want after you get said position.
    The way I look at it...if I legally agree not to post anything about Kermit the Frog based on a company's Code of Conduct, then I BETTER NOT post anything about Kermit the Frog. It doesn't matter if society says Kermit the Frog is "safe" to post about, my company said don't do it. If I like to post things about Kermit the Frog, then I need to go to a different company that allows it. It's that d*mn simple.
    Keith01
    I'm just saying, there's always 2 sides. Yet you still see ppl whining about Kapernick. That was the "league's choice" too, it was a business decision, he's bad for biz.

    Literally they decided the 2KL player was likewise bad for biz yet here you are whining about it.
    2KL needs a player's union.

    *facepalm*
    I can think of quite a few professions that "need a union" before "professional video gamer" comes to mind. For someone that keeps bringing up "business" you don't seem to understand how "bargaining" fundamentally works.
    Rashidi
    Literally they decided the 2KL player was likewise bad for biz yet here you are whining about it.
    *facepalm*
    I can think of quite a few professions that "need a union" before "professional video gamer" comes to mind. For someone that keeps bringing up "business" you don't seem to understand how "bargaining" fundamentally works.

    And yet you'd defend Kap and the whining from that...
    How many times do you need to hear that I "grasp" the concept, that's not the point. There are multiple angles to anything.
    Keith01
    And yet you'd defend Kap and the whining from that...
    How many times do you need to hear that I "grasp" the concept, that's not the point. There are multiple angles to anything.

    You dont grasp it.
    There is 1 angle and thats it.
    Keith01
    And yet you'd defend Kap and the whining from that...
    How many times do you need to hear that I "grasp" the concept, that's not the point. There are multiple angles to anything.

    Why do you keep bringing up Kap, and then say "people keep whining about Kap". ?
    Kap didn't violate any NFL policy. This has nothing to do with an offensive post on social media. Now stop bringing up KAP. there is no equivalency.
    My job has the same rules. There is a strict social media policy in place. A coworker got fired for offensive comments/images on their facebook. And guess, what? She apologized and understood why she was fired. There wasn't any "Oh, what really is offensive now days?". It is what it is. Nothing new
    Colin Kaepernick and LeBron James are rolling over in their graves right now. . .
    Why were they even dragged into this when there's hands down NO comparison smgdh. . .
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    RedmanR
    Colin Kaepernick and LeBron James are rolling over in their graves right now. . .
    Why were they even dragged into this when there's hands down NO comparison smgdh. . .
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    Because his behavior was 'offensive' to many. How is there no comparison? One was a "code of conduct" but there is also an unwritten code of conduct. Kap was bad for business, period. You guys would be great for back in the day before unions or worker's rights lol. Employers would love you. The comparison is you guys are taking an "employer is always right" position. Well, BE CONSISTENT.
    tru11
    You dont grasp it.
    There is 1 angle and thats it.

    Says who you? Just because YOU aren't capable of seeing multiple angles and narratives, doesn't mean everyone is. Speak for yourself.
    ksuttonjr76
    I wouldn't worry about it anymore...in his world, I guess he thinks it's okay to agree to whatever Code of Conduct to get whatever position then do whatever you want after you get said position.
    The way I look at it...if I legally agree not to post anything about Kermit the Frog based on a company's Code of Conduct, then I BETTER NOT post anything about Kermit the Frog. It doesn't matter if society says Kermit the Frog is "safe" to post about, my company said don't do it. If I like to post things about Kermit the Frog, then I need to go to a different company that allows it. It's that d*mn simple.

    What you don't grasp is that a Code of Conduct itself when it comes to what is deemed 'offensive', is many times subjective, ambiguous, open to flexible interpretations, trendy, and culturally different. There is a bigger narrative here. Freedom of speech in the work place. When too many jobs, NBA 2K League or otherwise, demand a code of conduct that is reflective of a censorship praising society -- it becomes ubiquitous. So it'd be nice to get some transparency from a league who already has had a problem with it (season 1). You can keep repeating the same stuff over and over and not grasp the different angles to this.
    Keith01
    Because his behavior was 'offensive' to many. How is there no comparison? One was a "code of conduct" but there is also an unwritten code of conduct. Kap was bad for business, period. You guys would be great for back in the day before unions or worker's rights lol. Employers would love you. The comparison is you guys are taking an "employer is always right" position. Well, BE CONSISTENT.

    Sigh...you agree to and sign a Code of Conduct on the first day of work during the onboarding process. The paperwork/handbook/course is pretty black and white about what's acceptable and unacceptable behavior while you're employed. The employer would be right, because you agreed to the Code of Conduct as a condition to have employment with the company.
    Since the team acted so swiftly in their actions (before the picture even went viral or known about by the general public), it's pretty clear that their Code of Conduct covers use of social media.
    Here are some Code of Conduct for some esports leagues....make note that some don't even allow swearing.
    http://www.ochighschoolesports.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/3.-2018-Code-of-Conduct-and-Participation-Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
    https://www.esportsintegrity.com/integrity-programme/code-of-conduct/
    https://www.esportsfed.org/league/code-of-conduct/
    http://www.wesa.gg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/WESA-Code-of-Conduct-Teams-and-Players.pdf
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/up/UPUOCDBX4W881549590219519.pdf
    Now, let this sink in after I mention it...the 2K League is sponsored by the freaking NBA. The same NBA that tries to maintain a "squeaky clean" image and have CORPORATE lawyers on their payroll. How thick you think their Player Code of Conduct is?
    ksuttonjr76
    Here are some Code of Conduct for some esports leagues....make note that some don't even allow swearing.
    http://www.ochighschoolesports.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/3.-2018-Code-of-Conduct-and-Participation-Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
    https://www.esportsintegrity.com/integrity-programme/code-of-conduct/
    https://www.esportsfed.org/league/code-of-conduct/
    http://www.wesa.gg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/WESA-Code-of-Conduct-Teams-and-Players.pdf
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/up/UPUOCDBX4W881549590219519.pdf
    Now, let this sink in after I mention it...the 2K League is sponsored by the freaking NBA. The same NBA that tries to maintain a "squeaky clean" image and have CORPORATE lawyers on their payroll. How thick you think their Player Code of Conduct is?

    In before he ignores the last part and spouts off about you not having the 2KL code of conduct in there.
    ksuttonjr76
    Here are some Code of Conduct for some esports leagues....make note that some don't even allow swearing.
    http://www.ochighschoolesports.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/3.-2018-Code-of-Conduct-and-Participation-Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
    https://www.esportsintegrity.com/integrity-programme/code-of-conduct/
    https://www.esportsfed.org/league/code-of-conduct/
    http://www.wesa.gg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/WESA-Code-of-Conduct-Teams-and-Players.pdf
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/up/UPUOCDBX4W881549590219519.pdf
    Now, let this sink in after I mention it...the 2K League is sponsored by the freaking NBA. The same NBA that tries to maintain a "squeaky clean" image and have CORPORATE lawyers on their payroll. How thick you think their Player Code of Conduct is?

    I dunno, but sounds like alot of dudes around here think that it's okay to agree to terms and then simply 'meh' them under the guise of 'free speech'. While I support free speech, at work, it's a different deal.
    I work a job where I often run into topics, with clients, that I know can lead to 'questionable conversations'. I either proceed with caution (keep my position vanilla), or I refrain altogether.
    Keith01
    When too many jobs, NBA 2K League or otherwise, demand a code of conduct that is reflective of a censorship praising society -- it becomes ubiquitous.

    :y14:
    You ever going to come out and say it or just keep dancing around it?
    Keith01
    Because his behavior was 'offensive' to many. How is there no comparison? One was a "code of conduct" but there is also an unwritten code of conduct. Kap was bad for business, period. You guys would be great for back in the day before unions or worker's rights lol. Employers would love you. The comparison is you guys are taking an "employer is always right" position. Well, BE CONSISTENT.

    LMFAO knock it off bro. . . put that same ENERGY into your controller?!
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    Iasounis
    I dunno, but sounds like alot of dudes around here think that it's okay to agree to terms and then simply 'meh' them under the guise of 'free speech'. While I support free speech, at work, it's a different deal.
    I work a job where I often run into topics, with clients, that I know can lead to 'questionable conversations'. I either proceed with caution (keep my position vanilla), or I refrain altogether.

    Ditto....nothing worse when a client brings up politics and religion into a conversation about their finances. Aargh!
    Keith01
    Says who you? Just because YOU aren't capable of seeing multiple angles and narratives, doesn't mean everyone is. Speak for yourself.

    I did not write that code of conduct dude.
    Are you really this stupid?
    My angle does not matter nor does yours or anyone else .
    The only angle that matters is that of the league.
    Its their code of conduct and they decide if a player broke it.
    I wish you good luck when you step into the adult world.
    You certainly are not ready at this point as you cant even grasp something as simple as this...
    Iasounis
    I dunno, but sounds like alot of dudes around here think that it's okay to agree to terms and then simply 'meh' them under the guise of 'free speech'. While I support free speech, at work, it's a different deal.
    I work a job where I often run into topics, with clients, that I know can lead to 'questionable conversations'. I either proceed with caution (keep my position vanilla), or I refrain altogether.

    Seems like the type of people that dont read what they signed and then get mad at the world cause they have breached their contract lol
    ksuttonjr76
    Here are some Code of Conduct for some esports leagues....make note that some don't even allow swearing.
    http://www.ochighschoolesports.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/3.-2018-Code-of-Conduct-and-Participation-Guidelines_FINAL.pdf
    https://www.esportsintegrity.com/integrity-programme/code-of-conduct/
    https://www.esportsfed.org/league/code-of-conduct/
    http://www.wesa.gg/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/WESA-Code-of-Conduct-Teams-and-Players.pdf
    https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/up/UPUOCDBX4W881549590219519.pdf
    Now, let this sink in after I mention it...the 2K League is sponsored by the freaking NBA. The same NBA that tries to maintain a "squeaky clean" image and have CORPORATE lawyers on their payroll. How thick you think their Player Code of Conduct is?

    How many times are you going to continue on with your straw man argument that no one is arguing for except you? Wow...
    Fact is, code of conduct's for social media are ambiguous, 'offensive' is subjective, and the NBA 2K League isn't being transparent. Of course they have that right, just like Eric has the right to appeal, and just like 2KL fans have the right to interpret this how they want as far as transparency and fairness, just like there are marketing narratives as well. There are more narratives than just black and white 'he violated the rules'. The fact that you continue to not be able to comprehend that is amazing lmao.
    tru11
    I did not write that code of conduct dude.
    Are you really this stupid?
    My angle does not matter nor does yours or anyone else .
    The only angle that matters is that of the league.
    Its their code of conduct and they decide if a player broke it.
    I wish you good luck when you step into the adult world.
    You certainly are not ready at this point as you cant even grasp something as simple as this...

    Thanks pops, but I own my own business. I also understand marketing. But continue on with your "there's only one narrative" talk. Next.
    Keith01
    Thanks pops, but I own my own business. I also understand marketing. But continue on with your "there's only one narrative" talk. Next.
    With your stupidity, I feel sorry for your business.
    Keith01
    How many times are you going to continue on with your straw man argument that no one is arguing for except you? Wow...
    Fact is, code of conduct's for social media are ambiguous, 'offensive' is subjective, and the NBA 2K League isn't being transparent. Of course they have that right, just like Eric has the right to appeal, and just like 2KL fans have the right to interpret this how they want as far as transparency and fairness, just like there are marketing narratives as well. There are more narratives than just black and white 'he violated the rules'. The fact that you continue to not be able to comprehend that is amazing lmao.

    You're literally the only one arguing about "fairness" like you're an employee trying to cover his *ss for a possible future infraction....
    The fans DON'T have ANY right to interpret this situation. That's like saying my clients have the right to "interpret" the fairness of my company's policies if I'm disciplined by my supervisor for a violation.
    Keith01
    Thanks pops, but I own my own business. I also understand marketing. But continue on with your "there's only one narrative" talk. Next.

    sure you do.
    with you being the only employee, am i right?
    you must have a great time calling yourself into your own office to discuss how you violated your own code of conduct and thus should be punished but then defend yourself on grounds of freedom of speech?
    Keith01
    Thanks pops, but I own my own business. I also understand marketing. But continue on with your "there's only one narrative" talk. Next.

    Lol You refute valid opinions/facts just for the sake of a meaningless rebuttal.
    If you think the 2K League needs a union, you understand marketing AND you run your own business, then why don’t you facilitate and establish this said union? Eric Donald is waiting for you...
    It looks like you are just bored with your “own business” and enjoy to stir the pot for no apparent reason.
    His suspension has validity due to breaking the rules he WILLINGLY signed; whether you choose to accept it or not is on you man.
    Lol ya'll are dense as hell. This is now multiple times I've said the same thing and you're not getting it, even though it's not that complicated. Circular argument going nowhere. It's 100% pointless getting actual points through your thick skulls. Stay in your bubble. I'm thankful I don't share your narrow minded thought process.
    Keith01
    Lol ya'll are dense as hell. This is now multiple times I've said the same thing and you're not getting it, even though it's not that complicated. Circular argument going nowhere. It's 100% pointless getting actual points through your thick skulls. Stay in your bubble. I'm thankful I don't share your narrow minded thought process.

    Basically, YOU think he was probably suspended unfairly on basis that society could be "oversensitive", and YOU want to see the post so that YOU can judge for yourself (like you got power to get him reinstated) if the post was "offensive".....
    From there, you'll probably bash 2K Sports for their "stupid" rules, and talk about how people need to have thicker skin while hinting at some notion that EMPLOYEES should have "freedom of speech" in the workplace DESPITE whatever paperwork they signed prior which they agreed as EMPLOYEES that they will conduct themselves in a certain matter to maintain their employment.....
    Yeah....you can die on this hill by yourself.

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