EA Sports UFC 3 Roster, Ratings & Screenshots - Men's

That can't be the full fly/bantam roster right?
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Ohhh nice find. OS is going to be happy today.
Or should at least. Lol

Damn I gotta wait until the 18th to see if Cro Cop is in game.

Where's Barao?

there we go. thanks for posting

Probably didn't add him to Bantamweight since he is a featherweight now, it would be ridiculous if he isn't in the game at all.

Your welcome guys
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These face scans look on point!
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Surprised Elliott has braids considering he wasn't in ufc2.

Notable Omissions
FLW-Matheus Nicolau, Deiveson Alcântara Figueiredo, Alexandre Pantoja
BW-Pedro Munhoz,Rob Font,Alejandro Pérez,Brett Johns(understandable)

He was in UFC1, it's the same model

Sadly it is. They lost a ton of people in Fly to retirement or getting cut. The only guys that I can think of that are missing are Pantoja, Shelton and Bibulatov.
Anybody see any issue with the rankings?

You nailed the people I have listed as missing.

That's why I said he wasn't in UFC 2.:y1: Every fight he's had since he resigned with the UFC he has had long hair.
Not a big deal, but seems weird.

Elliot will be my go to guy at flw to wreck the Mighty mice online. Stats don't bother me but some of the comments on social media are gas like how undisputed had more fighters on their roster, tiny roster, not buying the game etc.
Conor having 89 stamina is a stretch :D although in the beta, anyone who used him and spammed was wrecked by the 3rd round so like I said I wouldn't be bored with the ratings.

They shouldve changed that.

I think the ratings are on point, I was surprised with the inclusion of Marlon Moraes on release :D:D, but a bit let down because the roster in both divisions is noticeable smaller than EA UFC 2

Keep in mind the true ratings range is 80-100 so 89 stamina is average.

It's not a bad list of flyweights and bantamweights, it's just a little light.
For universe purposes I might just go full Dana White and kill off flyweight. Bantamweight would be super deep if you moved all the flyweights up to 135.
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It's roughly a third of each division , 15 out of 47 flyweights and 20 out of 62 Bantamweights, not too bad really, although there is a few notables missing from both, as have already been mentioned in the thread. Really happy with Marlon Moraes' model as well, looks real good

I think it will be fixed with DLC. I wasnt sure Moraes was going to be on the launch roster. We rated him but I was expecting him to be DLC.

Conor's health compared to someone like GSP. Conor health 96 GSP health 89. Cody and GSP have better stamina than mighty mouse?

The models look incredible, I just pray the champs, ex champs and contenders aren't all insanely more powerful than the rest of the roster. It's so hard to contain the hype.

Honestly, if these weight classes are this light and the rumors are true about the overall number of roster fighters being the same, then featherweight, lightweight and welterweight should be stacked to the gills.
And I hope the women's divisions each added roughly 5-7 fighters.
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As for the health thing, McGregor has been buzzed once in the first Diaz fight and ate a bunch of bombs from Mendes in that fight, GSP has been KO'd by Matt Serra and dropped by Condit, in addition to be horrifically marked up in every fight ever. Seems fair enough to me, but I agree with you on stamina, Mighty Mouse has pretty much the best gas tank in the sport.
Garbrandt also has inconsistent stats, his featured fight version has higher stats than his version in the full bantamweight roster, I assume he got tweaked down post 217 and the lower one is more up-to-date?

I hope it's OK to say this: MM's stamina rating there at FlyW is wrong. It might have been a typo or something.

That makes sense, since it's lower than his BW stamina, which would be real dumb

Well they still have Dodson as a Flyweight. I dont understand how they choose who will be in multiple weight classes....

Gsp having 89 health is a joke. Greatest WW ever with 89 health?? He got clobbered by serra sure but he survived condits kick and beat his ***.
As for getting marked up that doesn't mean anything you slap gsp and he gets a black eye lol

FYI the website is wrong. DJ’s stamina is 97.
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I should've been clearer, I'd give GSP more than 89, I just think McGregor having high health is totally justified and if you asked me who I thought should have more, I'd say McGregor.

I have to check the chart when I get home because I don’t think he has an 89 health. Where did they show his stats?
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I got spoiled last year when they released the whole roster all at once.
Now we gotta drag this out all week lol. Smart. But I still hate it. I get it. But damn you lol.
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Does anyone know if either division has confirmed fighters being released post-launch? I understand that these are the less popular divisions but I can't help to be a little bummed at how shallow they are.

You would think with how they are rolling this out theyd have the time to make sure their numbers are right, right?

People make mistakes with 200 plus fighters. With that said, I would prefer they get it right so people don’t freak out.
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GSP also ate a ton of strikes from Hendricks when Johny was still good. Conor got rocked by little Mayweather. The dudes GSP was fighting are crazy big compared to McGregor. I'm also fairly sure Serra hits much harder than Diaz.
I just wouldn't have have GSP heath that low, considering how marked up he has been it proves to me he can eat a lot of damage and still win. He is also going 5 rounds, where Conor's fights are also much shorter. I'm guessing he gets hit a lot more than Conor.
My perspective, I don't really care. As long as my man CM Punk has max freestyle wrestling stats I'll be satisfied.

I get that. But with the slow roll I would think theyd be bit more thorough. Regardless, like you, im more concerned with freakouts from players.

Fair, I'm just saying if you asked me to rate chins, I'd put McGregor higher, just probably not by 7 points, it's just that to me the issue is GSP being too low, rather than McGregor being too high. And weight class/size of opponent doesn't matter since each weight class has separately scaled stats now, right? I'd probably bump GSP up to like 91 or so though.
Also, disclaimer about me and McGregor, I'm Irish, so I'm probably extremely biased even when I'm trying not to be haha

I just noticed that Faber has better stamina than TJ and Reis and Borg's grappling is only one point lower than Mighty Mouse's. Also, bunch of people in r/mma are mad at health levels because they clearly haven't actually played the beta, might've been worth combining stamina and health into something like physicality or athleticism for PR.

The biggest omissions imo are Matheus Nicolau and Jarred Brooks (Flyweight), and Pedro Munhoz, Rob Font, and Chito Vera (Bantamweight). It's cool to see guys like Moreno and Nguyen make the cut but I'm not sure about Chris Holdsworth still being in there as he hasn't fought since May 2014.
For tomorrow, I hope we get to see new Featherweights like Jason Knight, Josh Emmett, Shane Burgos, Ryan Hall, Arnold Allen, Jeremy Kennedy, Godo Pepey, Artem Lobov, and Lightweights like Justin Gaethje, Mairbek Taisumov, David Teymur, Lando Vannata, Stevie Ray, Francisco Trinaldo, Kajan Johnson, and Islam Makhachev.
And updated hair for Cub Swanson please.

Thanks Dave. I need to double check that. Also don’t get hung up on category overalls. It’s possible that he could have a low cuts rating (which he deserves) and that’s dragging it down.
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Some of these guys don't understand that the overall doesn't mean much with likely a number of individual stats that make up that number.

Ok just checked it. The 89 is the actual rating. I would maybe bump him up a point or two but the highest guy in the division has a 93 and he hasnt been knocked out in 12 yrs.
The guys above him in the division don’t have a history of kos either. Not saying gsp does though. The amount of damage he has taken in the last few fights doesn’t help that either.
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Hey aholbert, how are you going to manage your universe with the little depth in these divisions? Will you create character representations of some of the top 15 guys not included or just create random fighters?

I'm going to disagree. Why would a higher division potentiality equate to lower health? Looking at FLW and BW ratings all kinds of fighters have better than 89 health.
It's hard to tell without the individual numbers in the health stat, but GSP is crazy durable.

You are getting caught up in the numbers a bit. When we did the ratings it was focusing more within the division not cross division. When we rated DJ, I didn’t think “what is he compared to Woodley”. I thought What is he compared to Benevidez, Borg and Cejudo.
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Already have it planned out. I went through the list that I have of the roster fighter and potential dlc fighters and identified fighters that aren’t going to be in the game but will he needed for depth.
I spent a hour just downloading profile pics for Gameface and I have a few of the guys already rated.
I’ll probably spend the next week rating the rest of my potential fighters
Also keep in mind I use multiple profiles so I don’t get hit with the caf limit.
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Oh, I see. The way I was thinking about it was how good is this fighter on a scale of 0-100, independent of every other fighter in the game.

Oh ok. Yeah if someone is off when compared with their fellow fighters in their division, let me know. But don’t compare to. fighters from other divisions
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I did read your discussion on that, smart move. Damn you got any advice on how the gameface/character creation works? I’ve never created characters to try to represent real fighters but it’s something I definitely want to do this year especially if some of the nice prospects in FLW and BW don’t make the cut

It’s been hit or miss with me. Last time, I made a great Brendan Schaub, Kyle Noke and Angela Hill just by using their profile pic from the ufc website. Other people didn’t turn out great.
I’ll fool around with it next week and let you guys know the best way to use it.
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Not a bad list imo. I was actually only expecting around 20 fighters per division. So with flyw only having 15 guys it’s not THAT far off. The list of guys is good. But having those extra 3-4 mid tier guys would round off the division better.
I’m hoping they’ll do a weight pack theme this year with dlc guys. Last year they were adding anywhere from 2-4 fighters each dlc update but they were scattered across multiple divisions.
I’d like each update to be set in one wc n that way we get substantial additions to a single weight all at once
I used to kill it at cafs in Undisputed 3. N I haven’t been able to find my groove with the ea caf systems. I think this will be the first time I try to give it a serious go. That way I can round off my weights with cafs
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He takes damage but he doesnt get knocked out, some people just wear damage more then others. Look at anderson silva he always looks fresh even if he has gone into a war or taken a beating. Look when chael dominated for nearly 5 rounds his face looked fresh as well as the war with michael bisping.
However my overview on the ratings and what needs changing however they seem good overall, much better than the release of EA UFC 2:
Flyweight:
Justin scoggins striking is 84 should be at least 86/87 ( he has a great karate background uses distance well has a win over ray borg in flyweight and was 4 2 in the flyweight division at the time.)
John dodson health is 89 should be at least 92, he has never been finished in the UFC gone 5 rounds with tough competition like DJ twice and heavy hitters like john lineker. Also i cant recall him being stunned at all??
Demetrious johnson health is 91 it should be at least 93-96, i only remember DJ being rocked once at flyweight vs john dodson, also any awkward positions he has been put in on the ground via submissions he has stayed calm and escaped easily.
Bantamweight:
John dodson health is 88 should be at least 91 and for the same reasons as flyweight his chin and toughness has help up the same in the weight class above him.
Marlon moraes he may have been rated after the loss to assuncao but since then he was won 2 in a row over dodson and sterling. I would up his striking from 88 to 89, Grappling from 87 to 88, health from 89 to 90.

Borg over Cejudo for grappling.. I'm gonna have to see the breakdown on grappling for the two, but that's a little peculiar.

Shallow divisions, no problem but tell me they revised the mixed weight classes. Selected weight + weight class below. Fly mixed is just bantam selected... Another disappointment right?
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A lot of the high class wrestlers have low otb ratings
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Marlon Moraes having the same striking rating as Sterling, less than Lineker and 2 less than Dodson feels wrong. (Also think Assuncao is a bit undersold there too.)
If I'm being super nitpicky I think Chris Holdsworth's grappling is way too low, but who even knows since hes probably never going to fight again.

Cejudo and Borg should both be 92. Keep in mind Grappling encompasses both subs and wrestling.
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You are right. Morales was rated before his last two wins. He may need a re rate.
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Yh that is what people forget, cejudo has probably the best wrestling or joint with DJ in the divison but submission wise he isnt proficient. I just hope the individual stats are done well the ones we cant see at the moment.

Sterling's striking should be 84 tops.
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Cut rating? So cuts have a effect on your fighter this time around?

He struck competitively with Assuncao, 88 seems completely fair to me. Having bad boxing doesn't make you a bad striker

I interpreted that as likelihood of being cut rather than cuts meaning anything.

Absolutely. Why I want to see how exactly it breaks down for subs/wrestling. Borg is a better sub artist for sure, but Cejudo's wrestling is probably some of the best in the entire UFC. Just want to know how we came to the final scores of 91 and 92 for them both.

Is every fighter, regardless of weight class, going to have a rating for individual metrics fall between 80-100? Because honestly if I knew what the threshold is, then I can use a random number generator and set the bottom and top to that and boom, I can create "random prospects" for all these divisions and have a pretty solid thing going for two years.
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Purely visual.
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If Ian Mccall isn't in the game is it safe to say cro cop isn't either?

Big difference in sub offense is what moves borg equal with Cejudo.
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GSP's block might not be the highest if that's a rating in UFC 3, he eats a lot of shots now days. He could still be pretty durable.

Can’t confirm anything but as you can see the game lost a good amount of fighters who were cut.
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I'm pretty positive the roster reveal on EA's Website doesn't show all of the weightclass variations of fighters in different weightclasses. They probably did it this way so that fighters who appear in multiple weightclasses who have not been revealed yet can be revealed in their current weight classes.
We all know Bruce Lee is in WW to BTW but was he on the Bantamweight list? No but does that mean he is not in the game or not in other weightclasses because he wasn't shown on the list in those weightclasses? No. 100% we know he is in the game he's actually seen on the featured fighter list.
I'm just using Bruce as an example for fighters we know are in the game but haven't been revealed in other weightclasses such as Barao.
Therefore the list we currently see is not the complete roster for those weightclasses.

The threshold is 80-100.
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Sterling 14 wins with 2 tko's from the ground. 1 in the UFC 3 1/2 years ago. Assuncao is competitive with everyone because he does just enough to win and takes away your tools. The fights with TJ were close but nobody is claiming Assuncao should be 92, but he and Marlon should minimally be 90. Marlon melted Sterling, made him look like a 74 and that was last month. Sterling throwing naked ranged kicks like Elias Theodoro doesn't even come close to an 88
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As Aaron said, it's purely visual. However, I'm pretty sure Cuts don't enter the category OVR. Having said that, the categories can be very misleading. They don't distinguish between low value and high value stats. Someone may have a high Health because of Head Strength, whle another fighter has it because of Leg Strength. A high Stand-Up may come from Power, or Switch Stance. And the categories also don't display the decimals, which can mean quite a lot.

I hope EA UFC does what WWE games do and even though a wrestler may not be in the game various info and animations of that individual are still in the game, such as their taunts, strikes, grappling moves, locomotion stance/ posture, announcer audio name call out. It's saves from having to just scrap the animations the EA Canada team may of captured from the UFC fighters who were cut from the roster because they left to another promotion.
EA MMA had Unique animations of UFC fighters that were not even in the game such as BJ Penn which they labeled his stance/Posture as Hawaiian Prodigy.
If guys like Mousasi, McCall, Nelson, Bader, Larkin, Mitrione, McDonald, Sonnen, Henderson, etc etc had any Unique personality animations, taunts, winning celebration, strikes, takedowns, stance/ posture, walk in, announcers last names, hairstyles in the game I personally would still use those to be accessible via CAF's.
It's a smart move IMO, which is part of what made WWE games so Unique because you can find the animation of people not in the game and recreate them. Making it as if they still are in the game.

MARLON MORAES
Striking: 88
Grappling: 87
Stamina: 90
Health: 89
So happy he made the UFC 3 Roster and that the Funk Master got his hair updated. 👍🏻

The decimals can mean quite a lot?

good roster but still small squad. there are a lot fighters left who didnt added in the game. disappointed.

Roughly speaking, a Stand-Up 90,0 would be quite different from a Stand-Up 90,9.

yh most likely they are rizin boys now.

Pretty disappointing roster. 10 less fighters than previous generation (4 FLW, 6 BW) with several notables missing and some inactive guys still in. Only a handful of new guys. I thought for sure we'd at least have the same amount. Maybe other weight classes will be expanded. Hopefully there will be a good amount of DLC fighters added.

Yh i agree its the individual stats that can make a fighter ratings accurate the overalls doesnt really represent them as well.

I disagree, especially on the 80-100 scale we've been told the devs are using. Aljo is by no means a great striker, but he's not bad, like, I'd say Ronda is an 84, or PVZ. On a 80-100 scale, 88 is slightly below average which is accurate for Aljo, the problem is that the devs don't seem to be using 97-100 on the scale, so guys like TJ, Cruz and Garbrandt aren't as high on the scale as I'd like. It's possible I'll agree with the more discrete stat breakdown though and it'll solve this problem, fixating on overalls is weird.

What ufc notables are missing? I’m trying to find them. There are a good amount of guys missing but I wouldn’t consider any notable.
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Im a bit disappointed myself, was happy about Marlon Moraes making it in on release day but both FLW and BW division on EA UFC 3 are smaller than EA UFC 2, oh well I certainly hope they raise the number of DLC fighters this time around or else the BW and FLW division will be too shallow :y220b:

Yep, Don’t get caught up on the overall numbers.
We used 97-99 a lot in the individual numbers.
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I'm happy we've reached the roster reveal but I just dont feel there is going to be any surprise, and with some of my favorite fighters probably not being in there anymore, it'll be underwhelming if anything. The lack of awesome pre-order fighters like Sakuraba and Rutten doesn't help either. I hope I am wrong.

I suspected as much, my point was basically that if you asked me to rank for example TJ's striking generally from 80-100, I'd probably be at like 97 or 98, but I understand there might be a stat in there that I'd rank lower that's affecting the overall, so I'm not getting annoyed about anything atm unless it's real bad, like CM Punk being 93 in striking haha

Yeah I wouldn’t call any of the missing guys notable, besides guys like McCall who aren’t in the UFC. There’s guys that I would like to be in the game because they might be somebody someday soon but nobody that I think even an above average fan is going to notice missing.

I'd consider any top 15 as notable. So...
FLW: Alexandre Pantoja, Matheus Nicolau, Deiveson Figueiredo, Magomed Bibulatov
BW: Pedro Munhoz, Brett Johns, Rob Font
That's 7 top 15 guys missing just there. Not to mention guys like Matthew Lopez and Marlon Vera. I understand it's impossible to get some of these guys in due to when the debuted and such, but still is disappointing to me. I guess I thought we'd at least get as many fighters as last time. Hopefully DLC will improve it.

Yeah. For example if someone has an 81 in switch stance that could lower his overall but he could still be a top striker.
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Everyone's a top 15 when there's 15 guys in a division.

If that's true then why aren't they all in?

Thanks. I think some of these will be covered by dlc. I know we rated a bunch of guys who aren’t in the launch version so it’s possible these guys may be added.
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Would be less disappointed how thin the BW roster is if instead of non active/retired fighters like Eduardo and Holdsworth we got some of the active BWs listed who EA had time to add.
Also kinda sucks the Elliott model is just a UFC 1 copy. Surely they don't need a new scan to just change the hairstyle.

Probably only rob font and renan barao at bantamweight and pantoja at flyweight. If Moreno made the cut im sure pantoja should.

I listen to a weekly MMA podcast, read a good bit on it and watch the majority of live shows (including prelims.) The guys you mentioned that I’ve heard of are Magomed, Marlon Vera and Rob Font. I’m not saying my knowledge level is more important than anyone else’s, just giving you another data point on just how notable these guys are.
I get why they started with these two divisions but I think the reaction will be better to LW and WW where there’s just so many more notable fighters that the rosters will be bigger. Missing a top 15 FlW? I can live with that; I can’t name 15 fly weights. Missing top 15 LW? Unless they just came on the scene and there’s DLC coming that would be disappointing.

They aren’t going to remove signed fighters who are completed to put in newer fighters in.
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I think Renan is still at BW. I need to double check that because I swear we rated him.
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Only women's strawweight and bantamweight, not really surprised or upset about that one.

Yeah, I understand they're not necessarily big names. But it's disappointing that other not very well known guys whom are inactive were included instead. Such as Gagnon and Holdsworth. I know their models were already made from last game but a more current roster would have been better, especially if it were to be smaller. Hopefully the other weight classes will be better.

Yeah, featherweight has no fighters other the champion and flyweight started the weekend during the beta. There was almost no chance of either division being in the game, at least at launch. I could see them patching in flyweight way later down the line though tbh, if they're feeling real nice.

i thought the same also, there really isnt anyone in featherweight, other than cyborg which is a natural 145er. Holm, germanide, evinger all went up to fight cyborg just cause it was a free title shot really but they naturally would prefer to fight at 135.
Flyweight is still too fresh of a divison most of the people thats moving there now has already fought in straweight or bantamweight.

I’m not for removing fighters under contract. This game needs more fighters not less.
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I certainly agree, I'm just saying I would rather have had more current over inactive. But ideally, all would be included. I'm all for the biggest roster possible.

Yh i agree but holdsworth is never fighting again as he has the same brain problem as paddy hoolahan but somehow holdsworth makes it in the game???

FINISH HIM.

Holdsworth is still under contract and never officially retired. Paddy did.
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Happy with the players that I personally was going to play being in (except Matheus Nicolau), but disappointed overall. I already know not to expect much from the other weightclasses. This is really showing out to be a gameplay above all else iteration. Which is fine, but I will be expecting MUCH more in the next installment.

Since Marlon signed around April and the Flyweight division was announced around May I think, there's a chance they've been working on that roster as it filled up and the UFC signed new Flyweights and going off the TUF cast...maybe.

Yet there's a rating, hmm ok. Guess it makes sense that a Diaz would cut easier but what a useless rating lol.

My initial reaction was that there weren't that many guys. But then there were only a few guys, which everyone mentioned that I could think of that were missing.
Really, this just speaks to these divisions being top heavy, but not overly deep. Bantamweight is awesome at the top. But neither of these divisions have the type of depth you see from 170-145.
Now if those divisions somehow only have 15-20 fighters in them then I don't know where we are getting to the 250 range, because none of the other divisions should be that deep while sacrificing time spent on the 170, 155 and 145 divisions.
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The easiest way to quell division depth concerns is to open the flood gates on weight changes. Let em go up, and let em go down.
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The rating is for how easy they cut. Someone with a high rating won’t cut easily. Doesn’t effect gameplay.
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WW and Lw are deep. That’s where the numbers come from.
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It’s a false delimma though. Taking out all of the inactive fighters wouldn’t have gotten us any new ones. We just would’ve had fewer overall.

Jimmie Rivera seems to has gotten a well-deserved boost compared to 2, nice. Aljamain Sterling has a new look as well, and Marlon Moraes looks like he could be another factor in the Bantamweight division.

You misunderstand. I'm saying I would have preferred to have newer/relevant fighters over inactive ones. Not to remove the inactive and not replace. Having them in is certainly better than nothing. As I said before, I am all for the biggest roster possible.

I'm really excited to try the new striking system with heavy handed dudes like this. Those big hooks should be devastating.

Is there a link for the entire bantam weight roster?
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https://www.ea.com/games/ufc/ufc-3/fighter-roster-ratings/mens-bantamweight

When you talk about heavy-handed in the Bantamweight division, you have to talk about Garbrandt and Lineker. If you wanna talk in general - imagine Dan Henderson, Rumble Johnson, Woodley, Jeremy Stephens...
Edit: Garbrandt does hit hard but he's about precision as well, accurate short punches with enough power to drop you or put you away.
Edit 2: Man, Mark Hunt...

I haven't forgotten, it's going to be crazy.

I didn't mean it like that. Just that it adds to my disappointment in the sense the division is thin and thats INCLUDING these fighter's from previous games still under contract like Holds and Eduardo who are basically retired. There have been plenty of BWs who have been active since UFC 2 and before the Oct cutoff, but no one but Marlon was added.

If you look at it from a fighting game perspective, would you want 10 fighters with varying stats, An excellent well rounded guy, a counter Striker, A grappler, a pressure fighter, a submissions guy, ect. Or a bunch of average in between guys who get swept under the rug because there's clear play styles intended. Personally, I'd rather a styles match up.

Yeah, seeing Faber still in the game kinda shocked me. I guess it's more so because of his legendary status. But Munhoz, Matthew Lopez, Yahya should be in...kinda strange omissions. BW is kinda slim.

No excuse for Yahya. He's been around long enough.

Faber being in it makes perfect sense to me, he's a Hall of Famer they already have a model for, why not use him? I do agree that bantamweight is a little thin, but it only being missing 5 or so low-to-mid tier guys is pretty good IMO, not great or perfect, but good.

Also keep in mind, with the exception of Brad Pickett, the fighters who have just retired and not gone on to another org have mostly remained in the game. Big Nog, Faber, Chuck, Hughes.

I met Brad Pickett at that Bellator show where Conor jumped in the cage, good dude, shockingly small, cool hat.

Games are the only place where you can make retired fighters in their prime fight against todays new stars. If they are popular retired fighters, I'd actually be disappointed if retirement would result in their removal from the game.

FW roster seems a bit thin but it is thin in reality, so whatever.
I won't get upset about GSP having 89 or 92 health. Not important to me unless some stats are completely unrealistic.
I hope the following fighters are in the game:
FW: Moicano
LW: Gaethje, Trinaldo
WW: Usman, Covington, Till, Ponzinibbio, Perry
MW: Paulo Costa
LHW: whatever
HW: Big Nog, Cro Cop, Lesnar (doubt it)

Super pumped about this game. first time ever pre-ordering a UFC game. The career mode additions and changes to the game have me intrigued. Can't wait to give this a try!

I believe Health also has to do with how long someones been fighting for, I mean it's got to have an impact on every stat in health when you've been fighting for 15 years.

Are they seriously using the Tim Elliot model from UFC 1 with the cornrows? lol.... :splat:

On the bright side, the Assassin Baby Brandon Moreno looks sick. Pumped up to use him.

-here's a Moreno caf I made in UFC 2.

I always thought that to compare fighter's rating makes sense only within one weight category
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At least the funk master looks current :y220a:

I see what you're saying, but I think more than anything the most important thing is staying as true to the present roster as possible. Thats precisely why my disappointment stems from the small roster + inactive/semi retired fighters. Idc about a small roster if its guys who have been active and established themselves since 2 (many listed but off top for me Font, Kelleher, Johns, A.Perez, Munhoz, Stasiak, Marlon Vera, Yahya) and of course I wouldnt care about these guys still under contract if more recent active fighters were also included. They were fantastic about adding fighters in UFC 2 though and I know no one i'm listing is like a must-have or anything but i'm hoping we can get some additions to that division as possibly a first priority dependant on how the rest of the roster reveal plays out

I'll let you guys in on something that frustrated me a little. The roster locked at the end of the summer. It takes weeks/months to do the stats and get them approved. Plus factor in the time it takes to do movesets and perks for each fighter.
So that means that if a fighter didnt do enough to make himself stand out by then, he likely wasnt getting in the game.
Take Kelleher. He was 1-1 in August coming off a loss.
Stasiak: 2-2
Johns: 2-0 (that calf slicer win really helped him stand out) but at the time against lower level UFC guys.
With that said, there is no excuse for guys like Munhoz, Vera, Font or Yahya though. They have been around for a while and should have been picked.
One last thing: These divisions were ransacked with cuts and retirements. Those two divisions lost 16 people (3 after the end of the roster locked).
Still wouldve loved to see Munhoz and Font.

I agree, it is rather baffling they were omitted, especially given the already bare bones roster. Hopefully DLC will bolster the lower weight classes.

Rob Font would be sweet. I could see him being an easy DLC pick.

Benavidez and Cejudo have better striking stats than Thomas Almeida? These guys are grapplers sry but that is a freaking mess right there.
Edit: just clicked on the complete BW roster and there are only 4-5 guys with better striking stats than Almeida... but still Benavidez isn't near 91 and Cejudo who has one KO win in the ufc isn't near 90 either.

Benavidez is a striker first, but he can grapple. The dude is pretty quick with his strikes and has decent power for his division his striking rating is pretty spot on at face value.

But I couldn't think of a reason why Cejudo's striking so high. He kinda looked almost as fast as Sergio in his last fight, but still, I'm not sure what would boost his striking to 90.

They dont have better striking stats than Almeida. They are in completely different divisions. You shouldnt compare BW stats to Flyweight stats. The stats are based on fighters within their division.

Nah m8 Benavidez strenght are his subs. He has 9 sub wins and 6 tko wins over "not so good" strikers. 91 is way too high. And I am a Joey B fan.
Cejudo should be at 87 honestly. Joeys at 89.

IT doesn't matter cause both of these guys aren't over 90 strikers in any division. It's just false. Almeida is top 5-7 in his divisions in ufc 3. I edited it but still in terms of tech power and skill both fighters Cejudo and Joey aren't close to Almeida.

Just because someone has a higher overall doesnt mean that they are necessarily a better striker. OVRs dont matter. Someone could have decent Power and Strike Speed stats and have a high OVR simply because their blocking, switch stance and footwork stats are really high.
Almeida is #2 in his division in Power. Tied for 3rd in strike speed. Tied for second in accuracy. That makes him an elite striker in that division.

You arent getting it.
First, name a better striker in Flyweight than Joey V. and Cejudo. DJ? Definitely. Pettis? Maybe.
Borg? No.
Moreno? No.
Reis? No.
Formiga? No.
Elliot? No.
So they are arguably between 2-4 in that division.
Second, you cant compare stats across divisions. This is like if we gave Big Nog an 89 in power and you complain because DJ has a 95. Does Big Nog hit harder than DJ in real life? **** yeah but we arent comparing their power when we rate the game.
We are only comparing people within the division.

He has a deadly gullitone just like everyone from team Alpha Male lol. But his striking has always been top tier too. I've been watching him since WEC, his finish ratio doesn't dictate his striking ability. He's extremely fast and efficient with his striking like the video shows.
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What's the point of stats then? Makes no sense.
My point is that Benavidez is not a 91 irl and Cejudos striking isn't on par with Sergios striking at all. (Both on 90)
Pettis is a better, way better striker than both of these guys. He is faster. More Powerful. More accurate. Better headmovement. Better footwork. Kicks are off the chain compared to Joey and Cejudo. I don't know what caused the 90 and 91 of Cejudo and Joey but its not correct.

He is a top tier flyweight fighter no doubt, but still not better than Pettis and Dodson for example. It's a bit too high. He also haven't fought in a while. It's not accurate Imo.

In the end, these are still overalls just with a smaller scope. Will wait until I see the striking rating breakdown, grappling rating breakdown, and so on before calling anything into question.

Cejudo's striking has gotten crazy better lately. (Not Pettis level, but much better)
About Almeida, isn't his best win Brad Pickett, and wasn't that fight fairly competitive until the finish?

The point of stats is to compare people within the division. You started off comparing people who arent in the same division. Now lets talk about Pettis.
The stats dont back that Sergio is more accurate: He lands at a 36% clip and lands about 10 significant strikes a round. Cejudo is at 43% and lands slightly more per round. Joe B. is slightly lower (33%) with around the same per round.
Power: Joe B. has 3 UFC KOs and seriously hurt DJ in his first fight against him. He also caused a bunch of damage to Cejudo. Cejudo has 1 KO. Pettis has never KOd anyone in the UFC. Ive watched most of his fights and cant recall him hurting anyone other than Kaledas. I'm not saying it didnt happen but I dont remember it.
Head Movement: He has better head movement than Cejudo and the stats show that. The Fightmetric stats show that defensively there isnt much of a difference between Joe B. and Pettis. I give Joe the edge because he has those stats facing better competition and fighting more UFC fights which tends to lower your numbers.
Even with all of that the actual individual numbers arent that different. In that divsion in real life, DJ is the top level, Cejudo/Joe B. are the second. Pettis, Borg and others are third. I think the stats back that up.
With that said, I'm sure people are going to have issues with some of the individual stats. 95% of them are exactly what we wanted. A few had to be adjusted after the UFC reviewed them and gave us their input. Overall, I'm happy with them and so is the rest of the team.

Joe tore his ACL and has been out. If Dodson was a flyweight, I wouldve beein in favor of giving him higher power and speed. He isnt though.

Did you watch Joe B. vs Cejudo? I thought Cejudo won, he's striking looked better imo. After his awesome karate in the Reis fight I wanted to see him strike with Pettis, which he didn't really do. Therefore Pettis is better striker.:D
I'm just talking about stats and not necessarily saying anything needs changed. Hard to really say without seeing individual stats behind striking.

I did. I had Joe B. winning or a draw. I cant remember.

Two other things. The stats were finalized in mid November so if someone had a crazy good or bad showing during the last 2 months, the stats wont reflect that.
Also, the devs can now push stat updates without a patch. So if someone is really off in an individual stat, its possible to fix that rather quickly.

Joe is such a bro, I have no idea what Olivi seems in him. :splat:

What's the reasoning for having a rating up to 100 but limiting it to between 80-100? Why not just rate them 1-20? It's the exact same scale

Looks like you people have an answer for everything doesn't matter how ridiculous it is. Just keep saying ea is doing everything right even though they don't do everything right.
Nobody is perfect. I'm no ea *****, Geoff and the crew did a good Job on many parts of the game... (except for a pay to win solution like limiting packs and follow up punches after a KO)
but giving Justin Scoggins an ovr striking of 84 is completely NUTS. Don't care what anyone else says imo it's completely NUTS. Period. Wilson Reis has 86. Dude is a 100% grappler. WTF?
Edit: why is the word h8ter blocked out lol?

So glad Morales and Ben 10 made the cut, and Funk Master got his Flattop! Lovely.
Though I was a little surprised there weren't more updated hairstyles and whatnot.
Why does HW have to be last, I neeeeeed to know if we get Cro Cop.. I'm not expecting him, at all, and it breaks my tiny heart, but I must know.
Hoping all the cuts/retirements don't affect HW/LHW/MW too much, I'm gonna miss Moose, Roy, Mirko, Krylov, Chael, Mitrione, ect ect.
Hope they kept Rumble in, otherwise LHW is gonna be, well.. Like it is IRL, hoping for Tyson Pedro, too.

Anyone know how the weight classes mix this time around?
Could we please up and down a weight class?

I swear, if freaking Lobov isn't in the game I'm gonna be hella mad.

He would also need Level 5 Standing Hammerfist

And this special move of course.

Seriously, I know he's not the most deserving person of a spot on the roster but I think he is my most wanted addition. I would love playing as him and taking him online. Artem is a legend. Hope he has enough of a cult following to get him added.

injuries, sicknesses, Big Weight-cuts,you can't stop the Siberian Express! Choo choo Mother****ers!!"

Is there a stat breakdown anywhere? I'd like to learn about all the individual stats. Also, I feel foolish for asking but what does 'heart' affect?
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Ea ufc2 >> Ea ufc3
Flyweight : 20 15
Bantamweight : 28 20
Whats going on with the game roster.......

16 people from those two divisions were either cut or retired. Thats what happened.

Gooch is a big miss at Flyweight :( Hope he comes back

To be fair, that's the UFC's fault.

See this is ****ed up and a prime example of why there really is only 1 dev and 2 Gamechangers that posts here regularly.
You were upset that Almeida had a lower striking OVR than Joe. B and Cejudo....I explained to you why that wasnt the case and you still are comparing BW/WW now with Scoggins and Reis.
You said Almeida should be top 5-7 BW...I explained that his striking stats make him a top 2-3 BW striker in the game.
You then flipped it to Pettis having a lower striking OVR.....I took the time to explain to you why and actually provided stats and support for why it is.
And that still isnt enough.
You dont have anything to support your Pettis argument other than you "think" he is more accurate, powerful and better defensively than those two guys. The stats dont back it up. His fights dont back it up. The results of his fights dont back it up. I think part of it is people hear the name "Pettis" and award Sergio with the same striking talent as his brother.
This isnt an EA is never wrong thing. I helped work on these stats. I watched fights and spent a lot of time working on these stats. I even admitted that there a probably a decent amount of stats that may be slightly off for multiple reasons.
But if you are going to identify an issue, provide support. Dont talk out of your *** and then get upset when I provide you with information that goes against your argument.
If you have evidence that Pettis has been a much better striker than Joe B. and Cejudo in the UFC, show me. I would appreciate it and would then ask the devs to consider making that change.

Heart is your ability to recover from health events. Toughness is your ability to recover between rounds. For example, a guy like Edgar will have a great heart rating based on his recovery skills in the Maynard fight and other fights.

I for one appreciate you sticking around to defend a lot of the misunderstandings these guys have. Often if you were to leave them to stew they would run with it and make 20 posts demanding something be changed when in reality everything is fine. Thanks for your time man.

Anyone know how many hours until the FW/LW reveal?
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If they reveal it at the same time as yesterday in about 3 hours :star:

What's the reason that some retired fighters are still in the game (Faber, Hendo, Tate, etc.) and some are not (Pickett, Holohan, problably more)?
Man i hope Rumble is in the game.

That is a great question and one I dont have an answer to. It could just be simply that the guys in the first category are more high profile than the people in the 2nd.

Probably because Faber,Hendo and Tate are legends in their respective weight classes and Pickett and Holohan aren't?
I'm sure Rumble will make it in, some say he will come out of retirement

That makes sense, but if we are going to have this small a roster at these weight classes without them, keep them in.
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The roster size is 260-270 so it's already bigger than EA UFC 2 launch roster, the other divisions will most likely be stacked

No doubt. I'm more saying that if they've ready spent the resources to make the art and there isn't a promotional reason to take them (as in they are fighting for a competitor or on bad terms with the UFC) just keep them in, especially if we've got Liddell, Griffin and the like. The recently retired fighters are more relevant to the current divisions and even a likely to come back to some degree.
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If you're the kind of player that mixes it up like I do, I'm sure 15 is more than enough... Considering you'll encounter the majority of the time the most known fighters of each weight classes online, that's what the top 5 at most? Means you'll barely see the other 10 there is in Flyweight unless you pick them yourself anyway.
I can't wait to see the lightweight div today.
That list of beta changes betta be released today too! About time.

I think Borg is a bit overrated.. he has higher grappling than Joe B and Cejudo :S
Another thing aswell is John Dodson has one of the worst stamina ratings at FLW...

Differences between offline and online users. I run an offline universe. I like having depth so I can have guys come up the ranks.
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I see. Never even thought about that. Isn't just making events? So it would be like having your top 15 already done. It's not that bad, you'd just have to lower the quantity of Flyweight fights compared to other weights. Never really been into this universe thing.

Yeah basically. You just end up recycling fights and doing a lot of rematches after a while. But honestly, that's a problem IRL so at least it's realistic.
Benavidez has problems getting fights. He's fought just about everyone and has 2 losses to the champ. I can't think of many fighters in a stranger situation than him.
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Tom Duquesnoy was one I thought would be in because he's got some hype and he's French (not a lot of those).
But he's also 1-1, so I can see the argument for why he isn't in.
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Yep and he was only 1-0 before the roster locked.

Thats why I create a ton of CAFs. I remember i could barely run a women's division with UFC 1 because there were only like 6-7 fighters.

And Ronda had already fought all of them at that point too.
I remember that well. That's why I can't complain too much. I remember it being much worse lol.
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not seeing mike tyson in the featured section makes me think he wont be in the game. It would be cool to use him with the new striking system.

BTW...
I thought of a wrinkle for Event Mode and the universe CAF issue where you have to be signed into that profile...
So I don't know if you do an extensive undercard for your events, but I do...so I'm going to start creating the Fight Pass prelims, FS1 prelims and the main card as separate cards. So in my universe they'll all be entered under the same event, but in the game it'll give me more flexibility for scheduling purposes.
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