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Another NBA 2K18 Gameplay Video (FAxCardiae) Shaky-Cam Footage

FAxCardiae has posted some NBA 2K18 gameplay footage (NSFW language) from the Gamestop Expo. This one featuring some gameplay between the Rockets vs. Spurs and a little action from the Rockets vs. Lakers.

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  1. Whoa - this one is MUCH better than the others.
    Loved the dribble spamming leading to knocked balls etc. And the drive and foul was a nice sign. He got into the lane and drew contact without too much bumping etc.
    Ended with a broadcast cam snippet - FINALLY.
    Didn't love seeing another bank shot swish in. I wish bank shots hit the rim more often in 2K.....
    Must say, this video does look a whole lot better than the other ones lol...Maybe I just spoke too soon, because everything looks nice and fluid here (for the most part)
    WaddupCouzin
    Does anyone ever call a play? Cats just run and gun!
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    These guys are straight up casuals, who'd much rather be playing MyPark
    After the first two videos i was actually thinking about canceling the pre-order but this one gave me some optimism and made me believe i shouldn't do it just yet. We'll see, keep them coming.
    Behindshadows
    Where's the Lakers Rockets in thumbnail?
    Edit: Nevermind last 10 seconds, wish that could have been the whole video from that angle.

    Real ones play on broadcast. Known fact lol
    When he switched to the tv playing it on broadcast cam the game looked good
    sidenote I noticed in all these videos the people playing are just running up and down the court holding turbo....wdf???
    This is some clean footage finally.
    Also once again these dudes can't play the game at all and it's really hard to see any improvement.....I am not the best ever but c'mon man...All cheese in these leaks is aggravating.
    (2:33 is exactly why I don't play on broadcast lol)
    Prelude will still determine whether or not I cop, day one.
    This video is much better, but I saw too many legacy issues in the other two smh
    Would love to see some CPU vs CPU action (to see how improved the AI really is)
    Johnnythelegend
    After the first two videos i was actually thinking about canceling the pre-order but this one gave me some optimism and made me believe i shouldn't do it just yet. We'll see, keep them coming.

    Why would you cancel based on what you saw in a blurry video. The demo will be out on 9/8 base your decision on that.
    GloGangJay
    Prelude will still determine whether or not I cop, day one.
    This video is much better, but I saw too many legacy issues in the other two smh
    Would love to see some CPU vs CPU action (to see how improved the AI really is)

    Please name all the legacy issues you are seeing ?
    I think either game development has nearly plateaued for this gen or maybe they should start releasing every other year especially for sports games
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    MarkWilliam

    Didn't love seeing another bank shot swish in. I wish bank shots hit the rim more often in 2K.....

    Preach!
    This was quite a problem in 2K17. Most close shots that were banked were nothing but net. You don't have the "is it going in or not" moments. This is why I said I was hoping for more ball/rim physics.
    Anyways. As long as this video isn't distorted/stretched vertically in any way, these shorter shorts have done wonders in making the players' legs look longer....something I was praising Live for a little earlier. :appl:
    GloGangJay
    Just have to accept the fact that defense will never look 100% natural in a video game.

    GloGangJay
    Sliding and warping (which I can look past, if the AI isn't braindead this year)

    Look at the following very interesting post regarding "footplant technology." I've decided to put the same link into my signature because I think it's an important advancement that sports game could surely use. Stuff like this always seem to get glossed over, not a lot of response to that thread. I just found out about it through a search for "footplant and video games."
    Someone should bump that thread when 2k18 actually release. I'm going to wait until I am physically playing 2k18 to see how it goes. Yes, I can see the issues with footplant already in these leaked 2k18, but still I'm going to wait it out.
    Footplanting and real physics for 2k18 and beyond..

    PDF file about this footplant technology. Just found it, so I didn't get a chance to read it yet.
    http://theorangeduck.com/media/uploads/other_stuff/phasefunction.pdf
    ataman5
    We've had an interesting year with 2k17 where i've seen both a lot of great stuff in the game and a lot of bad stuff and we've had good and bad times with the game (on/off) and a lot controversy over the year so we're close to 2k18 and some new stuff around the corner and hopefully goods outweig the bad or untouched areas.
    They move like they're on ice. Lol. There's no way the actual game looks that bad.
    The graphics are gorgeous. Vibrant, glossy court. I like it.
    Hard to tell how good the AI is when these guys are manually moving every defender out of position.
    But the players move like they have magnets under them. It doesn't look natural. Especially the defenders. Too much sliding. Way too much sliding. You're not supposed to be sliding on the court like that.
    Peep the dribbling though. Looks quick and smooth.
    Now this video was much better....
    Live ball seems to he back (won't last)
    Lots of missed shots (until patched)
    Broadcast cam looks pretty (as always)
    Body models look legit!
    So far it's looking good but man I'm going to dread that first patch when they take away live ball physics. The casuals have a much louder voice than us sim heads.
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    This is the best leaked Video yet. Those other videos almost made me cancel my pre order. This is why i just don't understand why 2K doesn't let the YouTubers capture footage and upload it. These guys leaking this type of poverty footage are literally making the game look terrible.
    I was good until I saw Julius Randle. IT'S BEEN 3 YEARS SON! How the hell has no one given him an inkling of hair. LeBron gets his fade and beard touched up damn near yearly and they can't even give Julius the old Dwight chili bowl fauxhawk :lol:
    lakers24
    I was good until I saw Julius Randle. IT'S BEEN 3 YEARS SON! How the hell has no one given him an inkling of hair. LeBron gets his fade and beard touched up damn near yearly and they can't even given Julius the old Dwight chili bowl fauxhawk

    Someone had to carry on the Dwight bowl legacy after they finally gof rid of Dwights
    Rockie_Fresh88
    Body types look good here . Also dribbling looks fluid. I saw a few loose balls that did not go OUT of bounds.

    Yes, good turn overs but cry babies are going to complain and then we get a patch. Most of those turnovers is guys trying to do to much and dribbling into players.
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    strawberryshortcake
    2k17 actually already had photographers along the baseline. But what I think is new are the thundersticks

    Thunder sticks are old too I believe.
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    like most of you have stated, best footage so far.
    the game appears to be a lot more fluid and less sticky. however i would like to see if it stays that way while playing online. theres always a small difference between online and offline play. still not terribly excited for prelude.
    Black Bruce Wayne
    Thunder sticks are old too I believe.
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    My bad. Yeah, the sticks are old as well. I just checked a playoff 2k17 video and the thundersticks were out in full force during the away teams free throw. Earlier, I ran a 2k17 spurs playoffs series and didn't actually see them so I figured they were new.
    2k17 Thunderstick @46:06 mark
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRmls2y82s
    MarkWilliam
    If only for a short while....

    thats the most frustrating part of 2k for me. the community lol. every shot has to green, every crossover has to break ankles, otherwise the game must be broken
    I really hope I like ball handling this year. It's suburban ghetto but I can see some differences already.
    I've completely stopped playing 2k17 so now I wait
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    strawberryshortcake
    My bad. Yeah, the sticks are old as well. I just checked a playoff 2k17 video and the thundersticks were out in full force during the away teams free throw. Earlier, I ran a 2k17 spurs playoffs series and didn't actually see them so I figured they were new.
    2k17 Thunderstick @46:06 mark
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRmls2y82s
    Hey just like the real NBA, they don't work lol
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    - Same lack of collision detection that has been in the series forever. In real life, if someone runs into you on the same side as the ball while you're dribbling the ball, something needs to happen. A collision, a foul, the ball being knocked out. Something.
    - The way Parker squares up for a jump shot is so unnatural. He runs right near the free throw line left elbow and then shoots like he was coming from down the middle. In 2K12 each player had at least three set shots based on your previous momentum. I have no idea why that was taken out.
    - Dribbling looks much better as shown by Harden's handles (although I haven't played much of 17 so don't know how much of an improvement that is)
    - Can't really say much about help defense. There were no picks called or anything. Help D for most part seemed OK, although I didn't like @1:30 when CPU Gasol left Capela wide open under the basket to help out on Harden when (1) CPU Leonard was defending him and (2) Harden hadn't beaten him yet.
    Optik
    - Same lack of collision detection that has been in the series forever. In real life, if someone runs into you on the same side as the ball while you're dribbling the ball, something needs to happen. A collision, a foul, the ball being knocked out. Something.

    - The way Parker squares up for a jump shot is so unnatural. He runs right near the free throw line left elbow and then shoots like he was coming from down the middle. In 2K12 each player had at least three set shots based on your previous momentum. I have no idea why that was taken out.
    - Dribbling looks much better as shown by Harden's handles (although I haven't played much of 17 so don't know how much of an improvement that is)
    - Can't really say much about help defense. There were no picks called or anything. Help D for most part seemed OK, although I didn't like @1:30 when CPU Gasol left Capela wide open under the basket to help out on Harden when (1) CPU Leonard was defending him and (2) Harden hadn't beaten him yet.

    This. If anyone has ever played basketball, running towards a defender and not protecting the ball is an easy way to lose it. In 2k people run straight through 2 guys and the ball stays magnetized to their body
    Idk what hurt more to look at, the moving defenders out of the way or the ignoring open shooters and cutters in turn for a VERY VERY sketchy pull up.
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    1:40 Live ball physics... Ball still goes thrue defenders chest - this will not be fixed until Dirk ends his career...
    On 2:40 when Laker jumps for rebound he hits another player and no physic collision happens.
    As an off-line (vs CPU) player, and taking into consideration this is two players picking up a controller and playing around. I was very encouraged by this video.
    1. Dribbling looked fluid and responsive. No hitches, noticed very little warping, and players looked explosive.
    2. I did not see ANY stonewall defensive animations (Hopefully they completely removed this- If someone dribbles directly into a defender, just make the ball-handler lose control of the ball).
    It appears they have added more "riding the hip" animations, and it looks dynamic, meaning you can still move and operate through the contact.
    3. Ball physics looked great. Players who over-dribbled, and dribbled directly into a defender lost possession of the ball in a realistic manner. (I REALLY HOPE THE DEVELOPERS LEAVE THIS IN FOR US OFF-LINE GUYS)
    4. Last, albeit a small sample size, the AI defenders look to be significantly improved. I did not pay attention to the user controlled defender.. But the AI seemed to make solid rotations, they were more active, they did not seem to leave shooters wide open on the perimeter, and the interior defenders played GOOD POSITION on their assignment.
    I'm excited to see official gameplay against the CPU, and for the AI blogs.:popcorn:
    not so sure about the ai defnese @ 1:26. looking a lot like the spastic defenders clueless in the interior leading to wide open paints/easy layups.
    liking what i'm seeing!
    question. stat overlays that show the picture of a player. what happens if he gets traded during the season? same photo shown? would be nice to see them with their team uni on. i know it's a photo. just saying.
    This part right here is what REALLY worries me.

    Harden passes out of a shot in mid-air to throw a pass into the paint and the ball goes right through the CPU Gasol's hands who makes a lazy steal attempt. Not only that but Gasol just completely ignores Capela and lets him go to the basket.
    Inexcusable if the paint defense is this soft again.
    And what is CPU Kawhi doing anyway? Why is the best perimteter defenders in the NBA just letting Harden turbo down the court like that?
    Optik
    - Same lack of collision detection that has been in the series forever. In real life, if someone runs into you on the same side as the ball while you're dribbling the ball, something needs to happen. A collision, a foul, the ball being knocked out. Something.
    - The way Parker squares up for a jump shot is so unnatural. He runs right near the free throw line left elbow and then shoots like he was coming from down the middle. In 2K12 each player had at least three set shots based on your previous momentum. I have no idea why that was taken out.
    - Dribbling looks much better as shown by Harden's handles (although I haven't played much of 17 so don't know how much of an improvement that is)
    - Can't really say much about help defense. There were no picks called or anything. Help D for most part seemed OK, although I didn't like @1:30 when CPU Gasol left Capela wide open under the basket to help out on Harden when (1) CPU Leonard was defending him and (2) Harden hadn't beaten him yet.

    The first possession shows what happens when you bump a defender with the ball-hand. It was a turnover without Green having to swipe at the ball.
    The Parker animation did look funky, but if you look closely, the player controlling him comes to a full stop, almost to purposely avoid a momentum jumper.
    As far as Pau, that's not a good look, but I wonder is that one of the built in poor defender plays that were mentioned in someone's early play breakdown. Pau has never been a defensive genius and has been even worse at his advanced age.
    I wanted to see if Harden had any of these plays on D, but he never got more than one pass away and there were never any cuts or plays ran. Really hard to get a feel for the game with these videos. They guys playing aren't into displaying real basketball so I chalk up most of the negatives to poor players and just look for the positives.
    I can't wait to get this prelude next week.
    WALTERBERRYPAOK
    august 31 hd stream of gameplay with ronnie

    They generally aren't that much better. Just a better quality stream lol.
    I'm not saying it won't be a good game, I'm just over it for now.  I'm struggling to find noticeable improvements from 2k17, and I absolutely hated that game.  Just seems like the guys are skating all over the place,  I'm still not sold on their momentum system when players drive, the ball tangibility still seems iffy to me and the full court passing still looks to be spammable.
    Gonna wait until I get my hands on the 'Prelude', but if I had to choose right now I'd definitely go with Live for $40.  Not sure if it's just the "new" factor, but I'm enjoying the demo quite a bit.  If nothing else, I'm willing to support EA's efforts this year, so that hopefully we'll continue to have options as consumers.  It's hard to play the same game for 7 straight years without getting tired of it, nothing personal.
    Hustle Westbrook


    And what is CPU Kawhi doing anyway? Why is the best perimteter defenders in the NBA just letting Harden turbo down the court like that?

    I'm guessing you're referring to before the gif starts but for the most part, Kahwi plays good defense. Harden isn't going anywhere, he hasn't beaten him which just emphasises how unnecessarily bad Gasol's defense is. Why help when Kahwi hasn't been beaten? The only thing I would criticise Kahwi for is just turning his back on Harden when he makes a jump pass. He should be doing everything he can to intercept or tip that pass. If this was 2K11 either Kahwi or Gasol would have tipped or intercepted that pass. They definitely wouldn't have tried to catch air like Gasol does.
    isdatyt
    The first possession shows what happens when you bump a defender with the ball-hand. It was a turnover without Green having to swipe at the ball.
    The Parker animation did look funky, but if you look closely, the player controlling him comes to a full stop, almost to purposely avoid a momentum jumper.
    As far as Pau, that's not a good look, but I wonder is that one of the built in poor defender plays that were mentioned in someone's early play breakdown. Pau has never been a defensive genius and has been even worse at his advanced age.

    What happens in the first possession doesn't happen all the time. There's a possession where CP3 runs into the ball handler and nothing happens.
    I see your point on the Parker jumper but it still looks off, like it's missing a transitional animation, I still think the jumper should look slightly different in that situation. It's like when Carmelo sometimes pulls-up suddenly after dribbling the ball down. His the right side of his body over rotates much more than when he's taking a set shot.
    The Pau animation is inexcusable. It's in 2K17 as well. It just doesn't happen in the NBA. It would only happen where people have bad hand-eye coordination like in elementary school or with people who don't play basketball often or rarely do. It's embarrassing and doesn't belong in the game.
    And one sidenote, why do players in NBA 2K avoid doing traditional layups (i.e. off the glass) as much as possible? In the first possession where Danny Green steals the ball off Harden, after he's beaten him why does he do a mini-floater from the right side with his left hand? It makes no sense. These shots appear far too often in the wrong situations.
    Hustle Westbrook
    This part right here is what REALLY worries me.

    Harden passes out of a shot in mid-air to throw a pass into the paint and the ball goes right through the CPU Gasol's hands who makes a lazy steal attempt. Not only that but Gasol just completely ignores Capela and lets him go to the basket.
    Inexcusable if the paint defense is this soft again.
    And what is CPU Kawhi doing anyway? Why is the best perimteter defenders in the NBA just letting Harden turbo down the court like that?

    if you factor in pau gasol is 37 years old and isn't the player he used to be this looks completely realistic.
    if anything i dont like how kawhi pulled a poltergist move and warped onto hardens body. I dont expect everything in a video game to be perfect though it is what it is
    Don't know how some of you can come to any conclusions based on these videos. I suppose if I watched them over and over again and analyzed them I could pick up some of the similarities and differences with 2k17 but it just seems unfair to make judgements based on these short videos where the users are playing like chickens with their heads cut off.
    We'll be getting more official gameplay within the next week or so along with the prelude on the 8th so I'm going to hold any judgement until then.
    Hustle Westbrook
    This part right here is what REALLY worries me.

    Harden passes out of a shot in mid-air to throw a pass into the paint and the ball goes right through the CPU Gasol's hands who makes a lazy steal attempt. Not only that but Gasol just completely ignores Capela and lets him go to the basket.
    Inexcusable if the paint defense is this soft again.
    And what is CPU Kawhi doing anyway? Why is the best perimteter defenders in the NBA just letting Harden turbo down the court like that?

    ?????
    The ball goes over Gasol's head, he just timed the catch and location of the ball wrong. Also his back is to the basket so that's why Capela is open, he didn't ignore him, it seems to me he was wanted to intercept the pass than pay attention to his man.
    nyk_fatboy
    if you factor in pau gasol is 37 years old and isn't the player he used to be this looks completely realistic.
    if anything i dont like how kawhi pulled a poltergist move and warped onto hardens body. I dont expect everything in a video game to be perfect though it is what it is

    I'd argue the opposite. pau's defensive lapse had nothing to do with athleticism, but rather mental and that's saying something considering pau is a full blown vet. regardless, it's not a good look on the defensive front, it looks like bad programming. we expect a1 defense this year, period. glad I haven't preordered yet, phew.
    bdeezy89
    ?????
    The ball goes over Gasol's head, he just timed the catch and location of the ball wrong. Also his back is to the basket so that's why Capela is open, he didn't ignore him, it seems to me he was wanted to intercept the pass than pay attention to his man.

    pau is clearly rotating to stop harden, and it's bad because he's oblivious to his man's positioning.
    Off ball movement seems to be improved a bit from the video. Graphics are nice. I still see things I don't like though. Like at the 2:02 mark of the video, Ryan Anderson running out of bounds for no reason. 2K17 was plagued with terrible AI off ball movement on offense and defense. During sets on offense the AI would run out of bounds just to get to their spots on the floor. I understand trying to implement getting to your spots quicker, but it has seem to cause some really weird movements a lot of times. 2K really need to make off ball movement for the AI a primary focus.
    This is one of the many reasons 2K17 was terrible and I stopped playing it after like a month. I also hated the menus, the new shot stick (ie. too many corner shots hitting the side of the backboard), and timed layups. I'm hoping 2K18 is vastly improved.
    Not that i'm complaining but is anyone else getting nba live vibes from the new footage? It may be from the passing animations and the warping.. idk. it just reminds me of live lol. With that being said, i'm liking how smooth and quick the dribbling and dribbling pull ups are looking like. There's some warping that's a little worrying but hopefully they could patch that up
    magicman32
    Off ball movement seems to be improved a bit from the video. Graphics are nice. I still see things I don't like though. Like at the 2:02 mark of the video, Ryan Anderson running out of bounds for no reason. 2K17 was plagued with terrible AI off ball movement on offense and defense. During sets on offense the AI would run out of bounds just to get to their spots on the floor. I understand trying to implement getting to your spots quicker, but it has seem to cause some really weird movements a lot of times. 2K really need to make off ball movement for the AI a primary focus.
    This is one of the many reasons 2K17 was terrible and I stopped playing it after like a month. I also hated the menus, the new shot stick (ie. too many corner shots hitting the side of the backboard), and timed layups. I'm hoping 2K18 is vastly improved.

    Anderson started running out of bounds because the actual game switched onto him and moved him there, rewatch that part of the video you'll see.
    jaityla
    Anderson started running out of bounds because the actual game switched onto him and moved him there, rewatch that part of the video you'll see.

    You're right thanks. That makes me feel a little better.
    jlaz
    I'd argue the opposite. pau's defensive lapse had nothing to do with athleticism, but rather mental and that's saying something considering pau is a full blown vet. regardless, it's not a good look on the defensive front, it looks like bad programming. we expect a1 defense this year, period. glad I haven't preordered yet, phew.

    You do know players, even NBA vets, make mistakes right? Real life players aren't programmed to have perfect logic, awareness, and IQ. Shaqtin a Fool exists because players make dumb, boneheaded mistakes on occasion. Now I agree if these type of things happen often, especially with the better players in the league, it's an issue, but if it only happens once and awhile it's a bit more realistic. We also don't know how things will change under different settings such as difficulty, game style (casual, normal, sim), and sliders.
    This is why I hate these short leaked videos. People overreact over everything they see, good or bad. We need a larger sample size than this before we claim something is fixed, broken, improved, downgraded, etc.
    And you do know you can always cancel a preorder right? You aren't locked into buying the game if you happened to preorder prematurely. You always have the option of waiting for the game to release, watching gameplay, and reading reviews and impressions. The game isn't going anywhere or selling out. You have all the time you need to decide whether or not to make the purchase.
    scottyp180
    You do know players, even NBA vets, make mistakes right? Real life players aren't programmed to have perfect logic, awareness, and IQ. Shaqtin a Fool exists because players make dumb, boneheaded mistakes on occasion. Now I agree if these type of things happen often, especially with the better players in the league, it's an issue, but if it only happens once and awhile it's a bit more realistic. We also don't know how things will change under different settings such as difficulty, game style (casual, normal, sim), and sliders.
    This is why I hate these short leaked videos. People overreact over everything they see, good or bad. We need a larger sample size than this before we claim something is fixed, broken, improved, downgraded, etc.
    And you do know you can always cancel a preorder right? You aren't locked into buying the game if you happened to preorder prematurely. You always have the option of waiting for the game to release, watching gameplay, and reading reviews and impressions. The game isn't going anywhere or selling out. You have all the time you need to decide whether or not to make the purchase.

    we do need a larger sample size, but i'm especially skeptical because of what went on in 2k17 with the same defensive problems, which were concluded by the community as bad defensive programming/coding. defense was the #1issue from a sim standpoint last year, so ya - i'm gonna question it.
    Sorry, but the "Pau Gasol is a bad defender" excuse is nonsense.
    This was a HUGE issue in 2K17 (and 2K16 to an extent) where players would regularly dump off cheap passes into the paint that would go right through your defender's hands. Elite defender or crap defender, it didn't matter. Those passes were flying through any and every defender's hands. This isn't 2K emulating bad defense. That's a laughable excuse now. This is a gameplay issue which has been a problem for several games now.
    I have no problem with it happening once or twice in a while. Not at all. The problem was that this was a consistent way for cheesers to score baskets online last year and it was so infuriating not being able to do anything about it. I'm not gonna and say it hasn't been addressed yet of
    bdeezy89
    ?????
    The ball goes over Gasol's head, he just timed the catch and location of the ball wrong. Also his back is to the basket so that's why Capela is open, he didn't ignore him, it seems to me he was wanted to intercept the pass than pay attention to his man.

    Harden had a step on kawhi, gasol moved over to help clog the lane. I thought it was pretty accurate. I actually liked the quickness of the pass and dunk sequence. I hated passing to someone under the basket just to have them take 3 seconds to dunk or lay up.
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    Hustle Westbrook
    This part right here is what REALLY worries me.
    Harden passes out of a shot in mid-air to throw a pass into the paint and the ball goes right through the CPU Gasol's hands who makes a lazy steal attempt. Not only that but Gasol just completely ignores Capela and lets him go to the basket.
    Inexcusable if the paint defense is this soft again.

    Agree with this. X 1000.
    That soft interior defense allowing players to walk in for wide open layups nearly killed 2K17 for me. Sooooo helpless and has no place in an NBA game.
    Open layups happen IRL? Yes. But do they happen in a manner so basic like this and in 2K17?
    Gasol was there. No screens, no switch mix up. Capela just strolled into the lane and Gasol let him with no good reason.
    Hmmm....
    To everyone complaining about Gasols defensive...
    You know what's worse? 100% interception rate. It's far more annoying to bring the ball up and have a passing lane, but the CPU is programmed to pick it off.
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    lakers24
    I was good until I saw Julius Randle. IT'S BEEN 3 YEARS SON! How the hell has no one given him an inkling of hair. LeBron gets his fade and beard touched up damn near yearly and they can't even give Julius the old Dwight chili bowl fauxhawk :lol:

    I know..Last year I used Jeff Adrien and edited his stats to be Randle as a band aid..:jpshakehe
    Optik
    I'm guessing you're referring to before the gif starts but for the most part, Kahwi plays good defense. Harden isn't going anywhere, he hasn't beaten him which just emphasises how unnecessarily bad Gasol's defense is. Why help when Kahwi hasn't been beaten? The only thing I would criticise Kahwi for is just turning his back on Harden when he makes a jump pass. He should be doing everything he can to intercept or tip that pass. If this was 2K11 either Kahwi or Gasol would have tipped or intercepted that pass. They definitely wouldn't have tried to catch air like Gasol does.
    What happens in the first possession doesn't happen all the time. There's a possession where CP3 runs into the ball handler and nothing happens.
    I see your point on the Parker jumper but it still looks off, like it's missing a transitional animation, I still think the jumper should look slightly different in that situation. It's like when Carmelo sometimes pulls-up suddenly after dribbling the ball down. His the right side of his body over rotates much more than when he's taking a set shot.
    The Pau animation is inexcusable. It's in 2K17 as well. It just doesn't happen in the NBA. It would only happen where people have bad hand-eye coordination like in elementary school or with people who don't play basketball often or rarely do. It's embarrassing and doesn't belong in the game.
    And one sidenote, why do players in NBA 2K avoid doing traditional layups (i.e. off the glass) as much as possible? In the first possession where Danny Green steals the ball off Harden, after he's beaten him why does he do a mini-floater from the right side with his left hand? It makes no sense. These shots appear far too often in the wrong situations.

    The user took control of Kawhi and made him turn his back on Harden it appears
    Optik
    I'm guessing you're referring to before the gif starts but for the most part, Kahwi plays good defense. Harden isn't going anywhere, he hasn't beaten him which just emphasises how unnecessarily bad Gasol's defense is. Why help when Kahwi hasn't been beaten? The only thing I would criticise Kahwi for is just turning his back on Harden when he makes a jump pass. He should be doing everything he can to intercept or tip that pass. If this was 2K11 either Kahwi or Gasol would have tipped or intercepted that pass. They definitely wouldn't have tried to catch air like Gasol does.

    Watch closely. The user pulls Kawhi away from Harden as soon as he takes over. Also, Pau is not a good defender. He never has been particularly good at defense. He gets away with a lot because of his height, and ability to contest based solely on that. He's gotten even worse as he's gotten older and lost athleticism. While this does look bad, they mentioned that bad defenders would make bad plays.
    I think 1:41 Is what i'm worried about the most. Tony Parker just dribbled the ball right through CP3's chest. That is ugly no matter how you try to frame it.
    So talking about the Gasol sequence, and other issues that arise on defense, I do wonder if problems arise because the game is trying to account for so many different variables, sliders, and settings at once. Between individual attributes to take account for (both the defensive players and offensive), coaching defensive settings, the games settings and sliders, and whatever situation is occuring it might be difficult for the game/AI to accurately process and breakdown the situation.
    In this sequence alone "Gasol" has to consider who has the ball, whether or not Kawhi needs help, whether to play the shot or pass, and on top of that the AI need to consider Gasol's attributes, the coaches defensive settings, the games difficulty, the game style (is this casual, normal, sim), and game sliders.
    I personally feel like these games have so much depth and complexities that it can be a positive and negative. It's not just about "what's the correct defensive rotation" there are dozens of other variables to consider. I do wonder if in some areas the game has become over complicated for the AI.
    Game looks smoother, but it wont matter if there is 10 videos like this one, the only way i will know if it feels better or different is when i play it for the first hour.
    lakers24
    I was good until I saw Julius Randle. IT'S BEEN 3 YEARS SON! How the hell has no one given him an inkling of hair. LeBron gets his fade and beard touched up damn near yearly and they can't even give Julius the old Dwight chili bowl fauxhawk :lol:
    You guys comparing Lebron hair updates to Julius randle are reaching!!
    Like that dude has been a complete flop..to get a hair update people have to notice you first
    Glad they got the proportions of the players fixed from last year, those gumby sized models really took out some immersion for me. Models still don't look as good as they did in 2k14 and I don't understansd how that could be possible. Faces might have gotten the most love, but hard to tell just from these videos.
    melo627
    You guys comparing Lebron hair updates to Julius randle are reaching!!
    Like that dude has been a complete flop..to get a hair update people have to notice you first

    lol that's incorrect. Also, that shouldn't be the policy.
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