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Aron Baynes has the best defensive rating in the league and his attributes are FAR below average. Also, Jaylen Brown has a defensive rating below 100 and his attributes are still lower than Lonzo’s.
Don’t get me wrong, Lonzo is a good defender. But not better than Baynes or Jaylen
Why exactly ??
Aron Baynes has the best defensive rating in the league and his attributes are FAR below average. Also, Jaylen Brown has a defensive rating below 100 and his attributes are still lower than Lonzo’s.
Don’t get me wrong, Lonzo is a good defender. But not better than Baynes or Jaylen
Monroe has been playing well since the all star break yet they drop him lol
On the other hand, Ojeleye has not shot the ball well from deep so I don't think he deserves that 70 3pt rating he has.
On the other hand, Ojeleye has not shot the ball well from deep so I don't think he deserves that 70 3pt rating he has.
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Aron Baynes has the best defensive rating in the league and his attributes are FAR below average. Also, Jaylen Brown has a defensive rating below 100 and his attributes are still lower than Lonzo’s.
Don’t get me wrong, Lonzo is a good defender. But not better than Baynes or Jaylen
Lonzo Defense has been the most suprising part of his game.. This is a stupid question. But have you seen him play as of late.
Yes Dragic scored 30 on vs him in the above. But he was causing a lot of pest problems for the Heat.
Totally agree... I don't see why it took this long. That man has been a young bull.
Yeah, I've been watching Lakers games as of late. That game I posted above.. Vs Dragic... Dragic has this patient move he does to everyone once he gets in the lane. And Ball was all over it!... I was surprised.
Aron Baynes has the best defensive rating in the league and his attributes are FAR below average. Also, Jaylen Brown has a defensive rating below 100 and his attributes are still lower than Lonzo’s.
Don’t get me wrong, Lonzo is a good defender. But not better than Baynes or Jaylen
So the question should be - why is not Baynes bumped up! And not why is Ball bumped up! Wrong angle to look at things. Belittling one player so you praise another. Wrong way to do stuff
Lonzo has a 104 defense rating. That’s good, but not that good...
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With Lonzo LAL is top 10 defense. Without him they're bottom 5.
I’m not trying to bash Lonzo because he’s a great player, and like i said, he’s a good defender.
But since were talking numbers, let’s look at numbers:
Lonzo is 123rd in Defensive Rating and 18th in Defensive Winshares. Very respectable for a rookie.
Donovan Mitchell (also a rookie) is 9th in defensive winshares and 86th in defensive rating.
Jayson Tatum (ALSO a rookie) is 64th in defensive rating and 10th in defensive winshares.
Why did 2k decide to greatly increase Lonzo’s defense, but not Mitchell’s, Tatum’s or anybody else’s? What made 2k decide to bump him up so much when his defensive stats aren’t nearly as great as some of the players with lower defensive attributes than him?
Not one time did I say he was a bad defender, because he’s not. What I did say is that he’s not better than Aron Baynes, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown or Donovan Mitchell, because he isn’t.
But since were talking numbers, let’s look at numbers:
Lonzo is 123rd in Defensive Rating and 18th in Defensive Winshares. Very respectable for a rookie.
Donovan Mitchell (also a rookie) is 9th in defensive winshares and 86th in defensive rating.
Jayson Tatum (ALSO a rookie) is 64th in defensive rating and 10th in defensive winshares.
Why did 2k decide to greatly increase Lonzo’s defense, but not Mitchell’s, Tatum’s or anybody else’s? What made 2k decide to bump him up so much when his defensive stats aren’t nearly as great as some of the players with lower defensive attributes than him?
Not one time did I say he was a bad defender, because he’s not. What I did say is that he’s not better than Aron Baynes, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown or Donovan Mitchell, because he isn’t.
Yea.... I don't use stats. I'm more of a eye guy. Ball defensive boost is totally fine with me. And I've watched both play. I'd take Ball each time.
I still don't think stats can measure a players defense. Just my opinion.
Thanks!
I still don't think stats can measure a players defense. Just my opinion.
The “eye test” is probably the most inconsistent test you could ever come up with in basketball. I know that defensive stats in general are fairly inconsistent, but an eye test?? Come on man.... Everyone’s “eye test” is different, there’s no way to accurately judge defense by an eye test
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And that’s fine, and i agree with you. I said myself, he’s a good defender.
My question was, why did 2k pick to raise his attributes out of all the other defensive players who are better defenders but have lower attributes than him?
Maybe I wasn’t clear in what i was trying to say, but i’m not trying to say Lonzo doesn’t deserve to have good defensive ratings, i was just pointing out the lack of consistency in defensive ratings overall
My question was, why did 2k pick to raise his attributes out of all the other defensive players who are better defenders but have lower attributes than him?
Maybe I wasn’t clear in what i was trying to say, but i’m not trying to say Lonzo doesn’t deserve to have good defensive ratings, i was just pointing out the lack of consistency in defensive ratings overall
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Aron Baynes has the best defensive rating in the league and his attributes are FAR below average. Also, Jaylen Brown has a defensive rating below 100 and his attributes are still lower than Lonzo’s.
Don’t get me wrong, Lonzo is a good defender. But not better than Baynes or Jaylen
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2763508-metrics-101-exposing-nbas-worst-defenders-at-each-position
I still don't think stats can measure a players defense. Just my opinion.
Which players are you referring to when you say both? Because I would take Jaylen's defense over Lonzo's any day, and this is purely from eye test.
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2763508-metrics-101-exposing-nbas-worst-defenders-at-each-position
Read his other posts. He provided the very same defensive ratings you mentioned and it shows the other superior defenders who are ranked lower than him in 2K.
Read his other posts. He provided the very same defensive ratings you mentioned and it shows the other superior defenders who are ranked lower than him in 2K.
And the problem is that other players should be bumped up because Lonzo's defense is right where it should be.
Also - Lonzo has better numbers from that article in comparision to any players mentioned.
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Nah it’s all good man, i should’ve done a better job explaining myself