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MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.22 Available, Adds adidas 8-Bit Cleats - Patch Notes Here

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MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.22 Available, Adds adidas 8-Bit Cleats - Patch Notes Here

MLB The Show 19 game update 1.22 arrived earlier this morning, check out the patch notes below.

  • Fixed an animation related issue with Dennis Eckersley.
  • Art asset inclusions for future live content.
  • Added adidas 8-Bit cleats.

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  1. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at the dev meeting when they decided adding a new cleat was worth their time this late in the games cycle.
    They could of made a small cosmetic update to a stadium like adding the Nationals 2017 NL East banner in right field, or the Brewers 2018 NL Central pennant in left field, or removed the tarps in the third deck of the A’s stadium since they were removed IRL after the 2016 season.
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    mariner690
    I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at the dev meeting when they decided adding a new cleat was worth their time this late in the games cycle.
    They could of made a small cosmetic update to a stadium like adding the Nationals 2017 NL East banner in right field, or the Brewers 2018 NL Central pennant in left field, or removed the tarps in the third deck of the A’s stadium since they were removed IRL after the 2016 season.
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    Or... could have fixed at least one of the numerous graphical, text and audio errors. You have to remember that these are the same guys couldn't even spell Cincinnati correctly when the game first came out. I mean there's only been 22 patches, so there's still hope.
    DukesofHazzard
    Anyone noticing after the patch in franchise games the scores from around the league bar appears but it doesn't show anything, no teams or scores

    Seems to work for me. There is a bug sometimes though were the black or silver bar at the bottom , depending on the theme, will be transparent and the info will be out of line but if you pause the game or go to the bullpen it will fix itself.
    Edit: the bug also happened before this patch
    DukesofHazzard
    Anyone noticing after the patch in franchise games the scores from around the league bar appears but it doesn't show anything, no teams or scores

    Playing my 3rd game post patch and its worked in all 3 games.
    Since this patch my Nationals franchise is completely buggered up. Using default rosters and 3 months in. All of my player portraits are screwed. Rendon has Soto's pic, Soto has Zimmermans, Eaton has Turners, Gomes has Robles.
    This is the default roster in a franchise that i have been playing since launch. Sorry but this is ridiculous. Minor yes, but still ridiculous.
    edit: after quitting, reloading and scrolling thru the roster it apparently fixed itself?
    edit #2: I personally think its really tacky that they added all of their social media links to the opening screen. Again not a big deal just don't like it and for me it blatantly shows the direction this game will go in the future.
    edit #3: Where are these new cleats supposed to be? I can't find them anywhere.
    Bullit
    Since this patch my Nationals franchise is completely buggered up. Using default rosters and 3 months in. All of my player portraits are screwed. Rendon has Soto's pic, Soto has Zimmermans, Eaton has Turners, Gomes has Robles.
    This is the default roster in a franchise that i have been playing since launch. Sorry but this is ridiculous. Minor yes, but still ridiculous.
    edit: after quitting, reloading and scrolling thru the roster it apparently fixed itself?
    edit #2: I personally think its really tacky that they added all of their social media links to the opening screen. Again not a big deal just don't like it and for me it blatantly shows the direction this game will go in the future.

    Yeah it's typical. Everytime Ramon likes an Elizabeth Warren or AOC post on Twitter unironically it makes me reconsider my purchase next year.
    The cleats are in the game. They are under the UNDER ARMOUR HARPER 3 and next to the NEW BALANCE 4040V4 METAL.
    And I'm sorry but I don't understand the correlation between them sharing their social media pages and the direction the game is going. They have for a few years now, promoted and showed everything about the game through social media, including developer streams prior to the game releasing and as they release content and patches/updates during the season.
    Its the path they have chosen to release information/updates about their game.
    countryboy
    The cleats are in the game. They are under the UNDER ARMOUR HARPER 3 and next to the NEW BALANCE 4040V4 METAL.
    And I'm sorry but I don't understand the correlation between them sharing their social media pages and the direction the game is going. They have for a few years now, promoted and showed everything about the game through social media, including developer streams prior to the game releasing and as they release content and patches/updates during the season.
    Its the path they have chosen to release information/updates about their game.

    Well thats stupid, so they are only in the player edit portion. Not available in RTTS or I guess DD either. So whats the point.
    Thats exactly my point. I know you don't agree. But they will continue to cater to the Twitch and YouTube crowd. Offline play will continue to degrade or be left alone entirely. This game is only about a year or two away from being another FIFA or Madden. All about the micro transaction and UT crap.
    I personally think that '19 is the pinnacle and it will stagnate from here. I may be wrong and I hope I am. But time will tell.
    Bullit
    Well thats stupid, so they are only in the player edit portion. Not available in RTTS or I guess DD either. So whats the point.
    Thats exactly my point. I know you don't agree. But they will continue to cater to the Twitch and YouTube crowd. Offline play will continue to degrade or be left alone entirely. This game is only about a year or two away from being another FIFA or Madden. All about the micro transaction and UT crap.
    I personally think that '19 is the pinnacle and it will stagnate from here. I may be wrong and I hope I am. But time will tell.

    I don't know if they are in RTTS or DD as I was in my franchise and just jumped to the edit player screen to see if they were there.
    Social media is how they choose to market their game, instead of using forums such as OS or print. It's the new age these days to promote your product to a mass of people. I work for an electronic distributor that has been around for nearly 100 years and guess what, we market on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and other social media outlets. Its free marketing that reaches a high volume of people. Companies are using it as they would radio advertising years ago.
    And how are they catering to the Twitch and Youtube crowd??? The game offline is as good of a sim as your going to find in sports games. I don't play online so I can't speak to that aspect. So how is the offline game degrading? Are you speaking about franchise mode? If so, the mode isn't being purposely neglected, as had been stated numerous times. Franchise mode is in a position on the PS4, where there isn't much else they can do until they reach new hardware. I've talked to the devs about this myself. They know what is wanted, they want to add what is wanted, but until we advance to the new console generation (2020), franchise mode isn't going to get the back of the box features that the community is anxiously waiting for.
    I know....I know...I'm a SDS/Show fanboy who finds no fault. Whatever...but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are incorrect in thinking that '19 will be the last great MLB The Show game released. I don't expect much change in terms of franchise mode next year other than under the hood changes in terms of logic and such, but I do believe that the community is going to be in for a surprise, a pleasant surprise, when we reach the first release of MLB The Show on the new generation of consoles.
    Maybe I'm wrong and you're correct, but given their track record, for me personally with '17 being the only game I didn't really enjoy out of the box, I like the odds that I'm going to be right in my thinking.
    :y220b:
    I have never accused you of being a fan boy and value your opinion and friendship both here and they real world.
    I do think, and I believe I said so, that I love '19 and think its the pinnacle of the game. It plays the best game of Baseball they have ever put out.
    I don't believe or support that they are limited by the console generation. Fundamentally at its core they have only removed options from offline play this generation. I am not bashing or saying that its broken, stale or what have you. But if we remove graphical improvement, including details and textures to parks etc.The physics model had improved, animations have improved, some AI logic has improved. But thats it. Not that these things don't immensely improve the game. But that have removed more features and content for offline play than they have added since last generation.
    I am all for capitalism and its their game they can do whatever they like with it. But if you take '19 and compare it to '09? Yes '19 is a superior game in play on the field. But '09 had more features, more immersion, and more offliine modes and components that this generation has.
    We are still dealing with legacy issues from last generation. There is nothing revolutionary about the control schemes. Nothing new to Franchise except a cumbersome financial layout and extending contracts.
    I also don't buy the smaller development team or cycle either. I am not a fan of NBA 2k at all but at least they have developed their offline franchise modes and tried new things. Granted they are buried under pay walls and micro transactions. But at least they add new things to make modes grow and have new features and draws.
    The Show has removed more from Franchise mode than they have added thru the years. That is simply just the truth.
    The Show '19 IS the best its ever been, on the field and graphically and game play. But its feature set, in my opinion is very lacking as far as depth and immersion of offline career modes.
    EDIT:
    To me everything they have done this year is completely marketed to the DD crowd. Every month/week? has seemed to be a new Program (whatever those are) featuring a YouTuber or Twitch Streamer. All content that has been added has been to DD. The majority of Patches are aimed at tweaking or tuning DD. Yes some of these help/hurt Offline as well. But I don't believe that they have any intention of developing Franchise Mode further. I also don't believe the MTO was developed for Franchise Mode. I do believe it was initially developed as a way to monetize franchise mode, but not as an offline mode or addition to Franchise.
    But time will tell, I agree.
    I don't really care one way or the other but to put it in perspective, you can go to their facebook page and both of their main twitter accounts and scroll through hundreds of posts and every single one that's game related will be about DD. Their instagram page has absolutely nothing mentioned about franchise mode but all the other modes are listed and if you go to their forums at the show nation and add up how many pages of post there are in all the categories combined, minus DD, there are 245 pages. DD alone has 517. And I remember them saying one time "to clear the air" that DD is not their primary focus... ok, then what is?
    countryboy
    And we wonder why the devs stopped visiting OS and interacting.
    When questions are posed and answers are rejected...what is the point of interacting???

    WOW ok. Wasn't the response that I though I would get from you for sharing my thoughts about the game in what I thought was an intelligent and discussion based way. Well then, Im out. Its your world and OS is your kingdom. Peace
    Bullit
    WOW ok. Wasn't the response that I though I would get from you for sharing my thoughts about the game in what I thought was an intelligent and discussion based way. Well then, Im out. Its your world and OS is your kingdom. Peace

    When you refuse to be open to accept an answer by the one person (SDS/Devs) who can give you the most accurate/definitive answer, then intelligent discussion can no longer be had.
    I wonder why the glut of patches the last several weeks. I hope its because SDS got some much needed new hires. I guess I'll use it as optimism they will have more people to work on next years game. I guess I figured there would only be a couple patches from mid-August to October. but its seems there were double, or more, patches in less than a third of that time frame. I also figured most of the staff would already be swamped with a Show 20 workload they wouldn't be able to do this many patches
    #EternalOptimist
    Caulfield
    I wonder why the glut of patches the last several weeks. I hope its because SDS got some much needed new hires. I guess I'll use it as optimism they will have more people to work on next years game. I guess I figured there would only be a couple patches from mid-August to October. but its seems there were double, or more, patches in less than a third of that time frame. I also figured most of the staff would already be swamped with a Show 20 workload they wouldn't be able to do this many patches
    #EternalOptimist

    Perhaps they figure as they update the game on their end, however small, might as well pass it on to the gamers. I haven’t experienced a single problem with the patches, so it’s all good.
    Bullit
    I have never accused you of being a fan boy and value your opinion and friendship both here and they real world.
    I do think, and I believe I said so, that I love '19 and think its the pinnacle of the game. It plays the best game of Baseball they have ever put out.
    I don't believe or support that they are limited by the console generation. Fundamentally at its core they have only removed options from offline play this generation. I am not bashing or saying that its broken, stale or what have you. But if we remove graphical improvement, including details and textures to parks etc.The physics model had improved, animations have improved, some AI logic has improved. But thats it. Not that these things don't immensely improve the game. But that have removed more features and content for offline play than they have added since last generation.
    I am all for capitalism and its their game they can do whatever they like with it. But if you take '19 and compare it to '09? Yes '19 is a superior game in play on the field. But '09 had more features, more immersion, and more offliine modes and components that this generation has.
    We are still dealing with legacy issues from last generation. There is nothing revolutionary about the control schemes. Nothing new to Franchise except a cumbersome financial layout and extending contracts.
    I also don't buy the smaller development team or cycle either. I am not a fan of NBA 2k at all but at least they have developed their offline franchise modes and tried new things. Granted they are buried under pay walls and micro transactions. But at least they add new things to make modes grow and have new features and draws.
    The Show has removed more from Franchise mode than they have added thru the years. That is simply just the truth.
    The Show '19 IS the best its ever been, on the field and graphically and game play. But its feature set, in my opinion is very lacking as far as depth and immersion of offline career modes.
    EDIT:
    To me everything they have done this year is completely marketed to the DD crowd. Every month/week? has seemed to be a new Program (whatever those are) featuring a YouTuber or Twitch Streamer. All content that has been added has been to DD. The majority of Patches are aimed at tweaking or tuning DD. Yes some of these help/hurt Offline as well. But I don't believe that they have any intention of developing Franchise Mode further. I also don't believe the MTO was developed for Franchise Mode. I do believe it was initially developed as a way to monetize franchise mode, but not as an offline mode or addition to Franchise.
    But time will tell, I agree.

    DING DING DING! Give this man a round of applause. Nailed it on the head and I agree with this 100%.
    This game is going in the wrong direction in my opinion. The focus on DD is beyond annoying and ridiculous. Sony Partners program is a fraud and they do absolutely nothing to make this game better and I'll keep preaching that until things start changing.
    I almost didn't even buy 19 this year, but I caved and helped with rosters. Haven't played The Show since 2K dropped and have focused all my time on Maximum Football now.
    If the rumors are true about MTO being somehow integrated into Franchise mode for MLB 20 then I'm out. Won't even be a purchase for me and I'll stick it out with 19 and continue my fictional franchise.
    It's sad and quite frankly pathetic it has come to this with the series. This used to be a game I would get excited for on a yearly basis and now it's to the point where I may not even buy the game again in the future. Damn shame really.........
    countryboy
    I don't know if they are in RTTS or DD as I was in my franchise and just jumped to the edit player screen to see if they were there.
    Social media is how they choose to market their game, instead of using forums such as OS or print. It's the new age these days to promote your product to a mass of people. I work for an electronic distributor that has been around for nearly 100 years and guess what, we market on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, and other social media outlets. Its free marketing that reaches a high volume of people. Companies are using it as they would radio advertising years ago.
    And how are they catering to the Twitch and Youtube crowd??? The game offline is as good of a sim as your going to find in sports games. I don't play online so I can't speak to that aspect. So how is the offline game degrading? Are you speaking about franchise mode? If so, the mode isn't being purposely neglected, as had been stated numerous times. Franchise mode is in a position on the PS4, where there isn't much else they can do until they reach new hardware. I've talked to the devs about this myself. They know what is wanted, they want to add what is wanted, but until we advance to the new console generation (2020), franchise mode isn't going to get the back of the box features that the community is anxiously waiting for.
    I know....I know...I'm a SDS/Show fanboy who finds no fault. Whatever...but I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that you are incorrect in thinking that '19 will be the last great MLB The Show game released. I don't expect much change in terms of franchise mode next year other than under the hood changes in terms of logic and such, but I do believe that the community is going to be in for a surprise, a pleasant surprise, when we reach the first release of MLB The Show on the new generation of consoles.
    Maybe I'm wrong and you're correct, but given their track record, for me personally with '17 being the only game I didn't really enjoy out of the box, I like the odds that I'm going to be right in my thinking.
    :y220b:

    If history repeats itself then Countryboy is correct in that we should get a decent Franchise Mode update on the PS5. The problem is it will only be updated once.
    They only truly updated the mode one time on the PS4 and that was it’s first year. The mode was then mostly untouched after that.
    So let’s hope they get it right if they do update it. Because they will likely be it for the following 5+ years.
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    ShowTyme15
    DING DING DING! Give this man a round of applause. Nailed it on the head and I agree with this 100%.
    This game is going in the wrong direction in my opinion. The focus on DD is beyond annoying and ridiculous. Sony Partners program is a fraud and they do absolutely nothing to make this game better and I'll keep preaching that until things start changing.
    I almost didn't even buy 19 this year, but I caved and helped with rosters. Haven't played The Show since 2K dropped and have focused all my time on Maximum Football now.
    If the rumors are true about MTO being somehow integrated into Franchise mode for MLB 20 then I'm out. Won't even be a purchase for me and I'll stick it out with 19 and continue my fictional franchise.
    It's sad and quite frankly pathetic it has come to this with the series. This used to be a game I would get excited for on a yearly basis and now it's to the point where I may not even buy the game again in the future. Damn shame really.........

    Absolutely agree! There just have too many red flags for me this year, which is very telling as to which direction we can expect this to go in future years. Sadly, if MTO is the franchise of the future, I'm out. They have essentially killed immersion within the current franchise mode with their lack of quality roster updates and adding rookies with no options (how in the world are you supposed to get immersed when you have to waive every rookie you call up and want to send down?) and not allowing face scanned rookies to be imported/exported.
    Beyond that, commentary and legacy issues have made it so stale. The only way I can live with it right now is gameplay is still solid in general and I just love baseball too much. All this DD and card crap makes me cringe.
    countryboy
    The cleats are in the game. They are under the UNDER ARMOUR HARPER 3 and next to the NEW BALANCE 4040V4 METAL.
    And I'm sorry but I don't understand the correlation between them sharing their social media pages and the direction the game is going. They have for a few years now, promoted and showed everything about the game through social media, including developer streams prior to the game releasing and as they release content and patches/updates during the season.
    Its the path they have chosen to release information/updates about their game.

    Do they ever mentioned the things they removed from the game such as season mode among other things? If not that is being deceptive and not telling EVERYTHING about the game.
    This is why I never buy a game developers prerelease hype and do not preorder.
    JHodges57
    Do they ever mentioned the things they removed from the game such as season mode among other things? If not that is being deceptive and not telling EVERYTHING about the game.
    This is why I never buy a game developers prerelease hype and do not preorder.

    I'm done feeding into the narrative. You kids have fun! :waytogo:
    ShowTyme15
    DING DING DING! Give this man a round of applause. Nailed it on the head and I agree with this 100%.
    This game is going in the wrong direction in my opinion. The focus on DD is beyond annoying and ridiculous. Sony Partners program is a fraud and they do absolutely nothing to make this game better and I'll keep preaching that until things start changing.
    I almost didn't even buy 19 this year, but I caved and helped with rosters. Haven't played The Show since 2K dropped and have focused all my time on Maximum Football now.
    If the rumors are true about MTO being somehow integrated into Franchise mode for MLB 20 then I'm out. Won't even be a purchase for me and I'll stick it out with 19 and continue my fictional franchise.
    It's sad and quite frankly pathetic it has come to this with the series. This used to be a game I would get excited for on a yearly basis and now it's to the point where I may not even buy the game again in the future. Damn shame really.........

    Have to agree with my friend Showtyme on a lot of this here. Combined myself and him have probably spent more hours on editing rosters and franchise play than most people who have the game. The fact that we dont play DD shouldnt make a difference as the fact that our rosters alone have generated over 50,000 downloads... that my friends is a lot of voices and a lot of content. I have had some positive conversations with some of the devs the last few months so I am hoping guys like us will have more input with certain features and feedback going into the next game. Take Madden for example yes they focus on MUT but weekly they focus on roster updates, rating increases and missing players, they accept feedback make changes and have someone accessible who will get most things fixed when theres an issue. Its not a good look when you download a sony roster and all season they havent fixed mistakes that have been there.
    I held off buying this years game partly as a protest at the lack of franchise additions, so as much as anyone else I’m eager to see some big additions next year. I’ll cut them slack on their social media focus because the content modes like DD lend themselves to social media, but next years feature list certainly needs to include some franchise additions.
    Ironically there’s been a shift By EA (of all developers) towards at least throwing franchise players a bone lately. They hired a big franchise Youtuber to their Madden dev team and the NHL series had some major additions this year and last. 2k put a great deal of work into ruining their MyGM mode, but that’s another story. :D
    I just want to play with the historical rosters - that's really all I want. MLBTS 19 was a lot of fun - so if the idea is to forget us offline guys next year, I'll just stick with 19 and hope that guys keep adding more historical files. This many patches this late maybe tells me that this is about what we can expect from the gameplay (which I'm not disappointed) for 20 - and their going to go all out on DD stuff - of which I could totally care less.
    Bullit

    Thats exactly my point. I know you don't agree. But they will continue to cater to the Twitch and YouTube crowd. Offline play will continue to degrade or be left alone entirely. This game is only about a year or two away from being another FIFA or Madden. All about the micro transaction and UT crap.

    I told you. :D
    countryboy
    And we wonder why the devs stopped visiting OS and interacting.
    When questions are posed and answers are rejected...what is the point of interacting???
    Give me a break. You and you alone are the reason I stopped posting here. I decided to drop in and see more of the same nonsense. SDS has blatantly catered to the DD demographic for years. They release GAMEPLAY patches in September because the DD crowd complains. We all know this. Why do you continue blindly supporting every single move they make? It's honestly nauseating at this point. Now you're insulting REGULARS here and then have the audacity to say this is why the developers stopped coming?!!??!! The devs stopped coming here because this website has more franchise players and social media has more DD players so naturally they are going to focus on social media. The fact that we have to continue tweaking sliders in SEPTEMBER because they released a patch that CLEARLY affected gameplay (regardless of the patch notes) is downright ludicrous.
    I've said this before and I'll say it again, the developers are SALESMEN! They have an agenda to sell games so to believe every word they say as law is honestly foolish and ignorant. To believe that every patch only affects what they say in the patch notes is absurd. They say what they NEED to say. They have to keep sales high. They have to keep their client base happy. They know franchise and offline players are disappointed, but they don't want to lose our sales and so they say what they need to in order to appease everyone. That's business 101.
    I've said my piece. Now I shall disappear back into the abyss because Lord knows the response I'm about to receive will be nothing more than baseless drivel to defend a game that clearly has stopped caring about the franchise playing conglomerate.
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    Wow, so...I haven't posted here in a while (since about the launch of this year's game).
    Thought I'd come back, since I skipped MLBTS 19 after renting it from Redbox early in the season and felt 'meh' about it. But now I ended up downloading it anyway since it's "free" on PS Plus. I wanted to see how the game had changed in the many, many patches released since launch.
    It's interesting to see that some of the same arguments are going on, and seem to be intensified since I was last here. It's too bad to see fans of this series divided so much, based on the direction the devs have taken the game...
    Anyway, does anyone have a brief, high-level overview on how the game changed from launch until now, based on patches?
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Wow, so...I haven't posted here in a while (since about the launch of this year's game).
    Thought I'd come back, since I skipped MLBTS 19 after renting it from Redbox early in the season and felt 'meh' about it. But now I ended up downloading it anyway since it's "free" on PS Plus. I wanted to see how the game had changed in the many, many patches released since launch.
    It's interesting to see that some of the same arguments are going on, and seem to be intensified since I was last here. It's too bad to see fans of this series divided so much, based on the direction the devs have taken the game...
    Anyway, does anyone have a brief, high-level overview on how the game changed from launch until now, based on patches?

    I'd say it's 97% DD / 3% actual fixes or changes. You can go to their website theshownation and read the patch notes for the individual patches if you want to.
    Edit: Honestly, aside from DD content, it's nothing to write home about.
    Drty_Windshield
    I'd say it's 97% DD / 3% actual fixes or changes. You can go to their website theshownation and read the patch notes for the individual patches if you want to.
    Edit: Honestly, aside DD content, it's nothing to write home about.

    Thanks...exactly what I was assuming was the case. And this will actually save me from reading patch notes for 22 title updates, as I don't really have time to do that!
    So basically they added a patch so you can get some kind of cleat but they still haven't even given a thought to fixing things like Long Relievers pitching way to much, No in game injuries in MoM games or the singles to the corner that should probably be doubles.
    I think that pretty much sums on MLB 19 for me this year.:brickwall
    shawn306
    So basically they added a patch so you can get some kind of cleat but they still haven't even given a thought to fixing things like Long Relievers pitching way to much, No in game injuries in MoM games or the singles to the corner that should probably be doubles.
    I think that pretty much sums on MLB 19 for me this year.:brickwall
    The singles down the line that should be doubles is a legacy issue that has been discussed with the developers AD NAUSEUM. Every single year they say it's been fixed in the twitch streams before release and every year it never is. A ground ball down the line in real baseball is a double 99% of the time. In the show it's a single 85% of the time. I guess this is a system limitation too....
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    Padgoi
    Give me a break. You and you alone are the reason I stopped posting here. I decided to drop in and see more of the same nonsense. SDS has blatantly catered to the DD demographic for years. They release GAMEPLAY patches in September because the DD crowd complains. We all know this. Why do you continue blindly supporting every single move they make? It's honestly nauseating at this point. Now you're insulting REGULARS here and then have the audacity to say this is why the developers stopped coming?!!??!! The devs stopped coming here because this website has more franchise players and social media has more DD players so naturally they are going to focus on social media. The fact that we have to continue tweaking sliders in SEPTEMBER because they released a patch that CLEARLY affected gameplay (regardless of the patch notes) is downright ludicrous.
    I've said this before and I'll say it again, the developers are SALESMEN! They have an agenda to sell games so to believe every word they say as law is honestly foolish and ignorant. To believe that every patch only affects what they say in the patch notes is absurd. They say what they NEED to say. They have to keep sales high. They have to keep their client base happy. They know franchise and offline players are disappointed, but they don't want to lose our sales and so they say what they need to in order to appease everyone. That's business 101.
    I've said my piece. Now I shall disappear back into the abyss because Lord knows the response I'm about to receive will be nothing more than baseless drivel to defend a game that clearly has stopped caring about the franchise playing conglomerate.
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    You’ve been a real charmer, haven’t you?
    They focus on DD because it’s what sells. I think it is as simple as that. They created MtO because data shows hardly anyone ever played through an entire 162 game season. It’s really not rocket science as to why Franchise is ignored. Blame online for all this, the evolution of the online threshold.
    BlueSkies77
    They focus on DD because it’s what sells. I think it is as simple as that. They created MtO because data shows hardly anyone ever played through an entire 162 game season. It’s really not rocket science as to why Franchise is ignored. Blame online for all this, the evolution of the online threshold.

    The issue lies in the belief that fewer people are playing franchise mode because they've continued to pay such little attention to it. It's a negative feedback loop. If you start to sell rotten apples people begin buying oranges, and not necessarily because they prefer oranges. Their marketing team has become convinced they can't sell an upgraded franchise mode and it's not worth it to try. This is where they're wrong, I believe.
    The more they focus on DD, the more people will play it, certainly. But this doesn't mean that upgraded franchise features won't attract more players, either. I think they're making a poor choice, both in terms of general gameplay as well as marketing. Holding two choices in front of a consumer and asking them to choose says nothing about whether or not they would prefer a third option even more...a lesson they might take away from the late Steve Jobs.
    They're moving down the path of first-person looter shooters and rpg, following general trends in gaming. And while trying to force sports games into this mold might gain them revenue in the short run, I think it's a long-term mistake. It's previously been pointed out that EA and 2Ksports might have begun to learn this lesson already.
    JTommy67
    The issue lies in the belief that fewer people are playing franchise mode because they've continued to pay such little attention to it. It's a negative feedback loop. If you start to sell rotten apples people begin buying oranges, and not necessarily because they prefer oranges. Their marketing team has become convinced they can't sell an upgraded franchise mode and it's not worth it to try. This is where they're wrong, I believe.
    The more they focus on DD, the more people will play it, certainly. But this doesn't mean that upgraded franchise features won't attract more players, either. I think they're making a poor choice, both in terms of general gameplay as well as marketing. Holding two choices in front of a consumer and asking them to choose says nothing about whether or not they would prefer a third option even more...a lesson they might take away from the late Steve Jobs.
    They're moving down the path of first-person looter shooters and rpg, following general trends in gaming. And while trying to force sports games into this mold might gain them revenue in the short run, I think it's a long-term mistake. It's previously been pointed out that EA and 2Ksports might have begun to learn this lesson already.

    I am sorry but this whole post is unacceptable here on OS. You just are not allowed to express a well thought out, concise argument against the almighty decisions of SDs.
    By not completely accepting them as perfect and true in all of there dealings, you are a closed minded oaf who is not worthy of conversation.
    You sir, should be ashamed and banned from OS for being too intelligent and opinionated.
    Bullit
    I am sorry but this whole post is unacceptable here on OS. You just are not allowed to express a well thought out, concise argument against the almighty decisions of SDs.
    By not completely accepting them as perfect and true in all of there dealings, you are a closed minded oaf who is not worthy of conversation.
    You sir, should be ashamed and banned from OS for being too intelligent and opinionated.
    Dude has been running the same schpiel for years and gets upset when anyone calls him out on it. SDS could literally release a patch that changes all stadiums into little league parks and he'd say it's innovative and shun anyone who disagreed. I literally stopped coming here because of it.
    Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk
    The one thing I look for in each and every patch is the fix for runners taking off almost every time a ball skips away from the catcher (which happens all too frequently anyway).
    I could have sworn they said they fixed this but I think all they did was quicken the catcher's response and ability to get to the ball to throw out the runner. They missed the fact that the runner takes off 95% of the time even if ball is fairly close to the catcher.
    Still hoping this gets tweaked some day.
    C
    There is an underlying problem that hasn't been mentioned yet, there is no competition. Competition leads to innovation and it's always better for the consumer in the long run by means of better features or cheaper prices. The way it is now, you either buy their game or simply don't play baseball at all, generally speaking.
    Bullit
    I am sorry but this whole post is unacceptable here on OS. You just are not allowed to express a well thought out, concise argument against the almighty decisions of SDs.
    By not completely accepting them as perfect and true in all of there dealings, you are a closed minded oaf who is not worthy of conversation.
    You sir, should be ashamed and banned from OS for being too intelligent and opinionated.

    C'mon Bullit, you're a cool guy. There are just as many guys who come in here and preach how bad this game is, ad nauseum, how many times has the comeback code been beat to absolute death, over and over, the placebo of the patches ruining the game, etc., etc., just sayin'. It swings both ways, Countryboy has helped lots of gamers here with problems with the game, he also refused to play, what The Show 18, I think it was, so let's not get started with cheap shots. He does post negatives.
    I don't know of one person who has been censored, or not allowed to give their opinions, even when beating dead horses.
    And Padgoi has absolutely no room to talk, so let's all chill.
    Drty_Windshield
    There is an underlying problem that hasn't been mentioned yet, there is no competition. Competition leads to innovation and it's always better for the consumer in the long run by means of better features or cheaper prices. The way it is now, you either buy their game or simply don't play baseball at all, generally speaking.

    Just ordered Pro Yakut Spirits. Looked at the translation guide and the game play settings look straight forward. Game also offers auto field, manual throw, clean screen, timed hitting for guys like me.
    KnightTemplar
    Just ordered Pro Yakut Spirits. Looked at the translation guide and the game play settings look straight forward. Game also offers auto field, manual throw, clean screen, timed hitting for guys like me.

    man, what I would do for a clean screen mlb the show game...can't even get that watching a cpu vs cpu game...so it's hard for me to have any hope for the foreseeable future.:confused:
    Drty_Windshield
    Yeah, so do I. I'm not sure what the other guy is talking about.

    In Pro Yakuu Spirits you don't have to have all the junk on the screen that you normally see in the Youtube videos. Like The Show you can turn those things off. I was also talking about my preference, which I know are the same for a lot of gamers (if they're concerned about options).
    KnightTemplar
    C'mon Bullit, you're a cool guy. There are just as many guys who come in here and preach how bad this game is, ad nauseum, how many times has the comeback code been beat to absolute death, over and over, the placebo of the patches ruining the game, etc., etc., just sayin'. It swings both ways, Countryboy has helped lots of gamers here with problems with the game, he also refused to play, what The Show 18, I think it was, so let's not get started with cheap shots. He does post negatives.
    I don't know of one person who has been censored, or not allowed to give their opinions, even when beating dead horses.
    And Padgoi has absolutely no room to talk, so let's all chill.

    My post was not directed at any one person at all. But at the whole of OS on both sides of the SDS MLB The Show argument. I mentioned no names and thought I used irony quite well. But that being said, I really don't care who is offended.
    Yes, both sides have their Knights that blindly defend their stance and opinions on the game. I am pretty sick of all of it to be honest. I used to be helpful and considered myself a part of this community. Always looking for ways to help people or the game be better. But you can only get slapped in the face so many times before it just becomes pointless. Which this forum and part of OS has become.
    So I am pretty much done bending the knee to social acceptance here and will share my opinions as they truly are and "Dam the Torpedo's." If you don't like that than block me.
    Bullit
    My post was not directed at any one person at all. But at the whole of OS on both sides of the SDS MLB The Show argument. I mentioned no names and thought I used irony quite well. But that being said, I really don't care who is offended.
    Yes, both sides have their Knights that blindly defend their stance and opinions on the game. I am pretty sick of all of it to be honest. I used to be helpful and considered myself a part of this community. Always looking for ways to help people or the game be better. But you can only get slapped in the face so many times before it just becomes pointless. Which this forum and part of OS has become.
    So I am pretty much done bending the knee to social acceptance here and will share my opinions as they truly are and "Dam the Torpedo's." If you don't like that than block me.

    Wait a minute, Bullit, are you saying I blindly defend my stance? Really? No, not going to block you. I enjoy your opinion. I just think fanboy is overused. Nobody is having their opinions shut down on either side. Trying to bring out some reasoning in a thread that got really personal. Peace, bro.
    KnightTemplar
    Wait a minute, Bullit, are you saying I blindly defend my stance? Really? No, not going to block you. I enjoy your opinion. I just think fanboy is overused. Nobody is having their opinions shut down on either side. Trying to bring out some reasoning in a thread that got really personal. Peace, bro.

    I've have, unlike some, made no personal attacks in any of my posts in this thread. But yet you keep calling ME out for my posts. Nothing I said was aimed at you. But here we are once again with me defending myself against things I didn't say and someone else saying that I'm making personal attacks? Nice double standard. But that is OS now.
    Bullit
    I've have, unlike some, have made no personal attacks in any of my posts in this thread. But yet you keep calling ME out for my posts. Nothing I said was aimed at you. But here we are once again with me defending myself against things I didnt say and someone else saying that I'm making personal attacks? Nice double standard. But thos is OS now.

    Geez, whatever man.

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