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MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.11 Available, Patch Notes Here

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MLB The Show 19 Patch 1.11 Available, Patch Notes Here

MLB The Show 19 game update 1.11 is available, addressing some issues in gameplay, Road to the Show and a few other miscellaneous items. Check out the patch notes below.

GAMEPLAY

  • Adjustments made to exit velocities in Diamond Dynasty. High power batters should now see higher average exit velocities.
  • Addressed an issue where the Catcher Throw Meter would not display upon initial button press when using Button Accuracy.
  • Preloaded throws will now transfer when switching players.
  • Wind speed set to 0 MPH in Battle Royale, Events, and Ranked Seasons.
  • Slightly decreased the opacity of the PCI.

ROAD TO THE SHOW

  • Fixed an issue where Ladder Training would skip and not award the user with any Training Points.

MISCELLANEOUS

  • Fixed an issue where users would get stuck in the lineup Screen in Battle Royale which would result in a loss.
  • Set Rewards are now being rewarded correctly in the Shelfy Moments.
  • Updated several stadiums that were ruling certain hits incorrectly. Stadiums adjusted include Fenway Park, Tropicana Field, Chase Field, Old Miami, and Polo Grounds.
  • General UI text and spacing adjustments.
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  1. BigOscar
    And why would they keep it a secret?

    They’re not hiding anything they’re just giving the top “notes” of all the changes in the patch, and they’re going to list the stuff they get the most complaints/feedback on.
    Shouldn’t surprise anyone that every single note is related to DD or RTTS, even fixing the way some stadiums record certain hits is probably because of people bitching about a single being ruled an error when they need hits for a challenge.
    Not to say they for sure fixed the DH glitch but there’s no proof they haven’t. Yet. Haha
    thedeafpoliceman
    They’re not hiding anything they’re just giving the top “notes” of all the changes in the patch, and they’re going to list the stuff they get the most complaints/feedback on.
    Shouldn’t surprise anyone that every single note is related to DD or RTTS, even fixing the way some stadiums record certain hits is probably because of people bitching about a single being ruled an error when they need hits for a challenge.
    Not to say they for sure fixed the DH glitch but there’s no proof they haven’t. Yet. Haha

    Yeah, hopefully, but it's pretty depressing either way. Either they haven't fixed it, or they think fixing a game breaking franchise bug isn't worth mentioning. Neither is exactly great.
    Given that the patch notes are about 15 lines long, you feel they really could have fit it in there if they'd done it (although it obviously isn't as important and sexy as "General UI text and spacing adjustment")
    Call me paranoid but I think it's because they want us to stop playing franchise and go to diamond dynasty. I won't do that, I just won't buy another MLB The Show game again.
    larryd615
    Call me paranoid but I think it's because they want us to stop playing franchise and go to diamond dynasty. I won't do that, I just won't buy another MLB The Show game again.

    I don't think we're to that point, but I'm not calling you paranoid. When I visit the shownation forums it's pretty clear the majority of people there constitute a crowd we don't see here at all. Devs don't post here anymore, and all there attention is over there...the new features they decide to put in every year and their patch priorities tell us all we need to know.
    ONE GUY...they have ONE GUY working on franchise-related issues every year (this is out of their own mouths)...so what can we really expect? This ship is going down...
    It’s not a specific bug to franchise so those conspiracy theories can rest.
    It effects play now, RTTS, and franchise.
    Not sure if it effects other modes or not, but those three have been mentioned
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    A little confused at how the correction for exit velo with power hitters is only limited to DD?! You would think since it's an issue in DD, it would reflect in all modes? They finally made contact hitters useful this year, and then of course power hitters became "somewhat" flawed.
    Well here's to hoping that fix somehow made it to my franchise.
    Baseball Purist
    A little confused at how the correction for exit velo with power hitters is only limited to DD?! You would think since it's an issue in DD, it would reflect in all modes? They finally made contact hitters useful this year, and then of course power hitters became "somewhat" flawed.
    Well here's to hoping that fix somehow made it to my franchise.

    on the stream Ramone went one further and said a lot of the gameplay stuff they patch is specific to only online DD. No idea why
    Preloaded throws will now transfer when switching players.

    Thank you SDS! :cheers:
    This was so damn annoying. I would give up an extra base far too often because I didn't re-preload a throw when switching fielders.
    No fix for Spring Training subs either. I think we're now at the point where it's a real possibility these things aren't getting fixed. Disappointing isn't a strong enough word. I've pre-ordered the last two years because I believed in the quality of SDS' work and because I wanted to play right away. Next year I'm waiting for the game to come out and read reviews. That kind of loyalty has to be earned, and it hasn't been.
    I have been the biggest fan boy of this game for a very long time. Most of you old timers know why and how I have staunchly defended the Devs and this game.
    But this has finally caused me to switch to the Dark Side. We were specifically told the DH fix was being worked on for patch 1.11. If it couldn't be fixed fine then mention it. Why the radio silence. Now we are told to wait for ANOTHER patch. So 11 patches in and still no fixes for offline franchise problems. But numerous fixes and tweaks to the online MONEYMAKER?
    I am sorry but in this day and age, this is just too much for me. It has become abundantly clear that unless they can find a way to monetize offline franchise its just dead in the water. The DH bug has finally appeared in my franchise, pretty much ruining 5 seasons of work for me. I am done and out until this is fixed. Going back to '18 or hell maybe even all the way back to '16 when it all worked and you could play RTTS any way you wanted to. Gameplay on the field in '19 is the best its ever been, but the bugs are just too much for me anymore. Hopefully someday the fix this years game.
    This is no longer a day one pickup for me. The past two years have just been a mess of legacy issues, bugs and patches changing game play. These folks have burned up any lasting trust or faith about putting out a complete and working game that I have had. Its a shame but thats the way it goes I guess.
    Peace
    Bullit

    We were specifically told the DH fix was being worked on for patch 1.11. If it couldn't be fixed fine then mention it. Why the radio silence. Now we are told to wait for ANOTHER patch. So 11 patches in and still no fixes for offline franchise problems. But numerous fixes and tweaks to the online MONEYMAKER?
    Peace

    I think we've been spoiled to think that, for years, the Show revolved around this site, devs coming here, chatting with us, etc. I don't think they are going to mention things they "can't fix" in notes as we aren't their sole audience. We expect to be coddled a bit. Not working that way. Not defending them, just trying to give a reason why things that "can't be fixed" aren't outlined in patch notes.
    I'm curious, maybe I missed it, but who said it was being worked on for this patch?
    KnightTemplar
    I'm curious, maybe I missed it, but who said it was being worked on for this patch?

    It was stated on an earlier content stream by SDS.
    (Which is why I think it is a horrible idea for devs to pre-announce planned patch fixes unless they have definitive patch notes - like they obviously did last night)
    larryd615
    Call me paranoid but I think it's because they want us to stop playing franchise and go to diamond dynasty. I won't do that, I just won't buy another MLB The Show game again.

    I with you. No franchise, no purchase from me.
    JoshC1977
    It was stated on an earlier content stream by SDS.
    (Which is why I think it is a horrible idea for devs to pre-announce planned patch fixes unless they have definitive patch notes - like they obviously did last night)

    Ah, okay, thanks, Josh. And your right. I personally don't think they are purposely ignoring the problem. With all that code it might be a mystery and hard to determine.
    KnightTemplar
    I think we've been spoiled to think that, for years, the Show revolved around this site, devs coming here, chatting with us, etc. I don't think they are going to mention things they "can't fix" in notes as we aren't their sole audience. We expect to be coddled a bit. Not working that way. Not defending them, just trying to give a reason why things that "can't be fixed" aren't outlined in patch notes.
    I'm curious, maybe I missed it, but who said it was being worked on for this patch?

    I dont care whether they post here or not.They have their own site, they do streams on Twitch regularly. They said on the stream before that the DH bug was being worked on for patch 1.11. They did a stream yesterday and talked about the patch notes for today. They could have easily said they could not get a fix done for this problem and that they were still working on it. Not that difficult. But offline modes don't make money.
    Yesterday they even said on the stream fixes were for DD only and that Franchise was a different game. Obviously one that is no longer a priority for them.
    JoshC1977
    It was stated on an earlier content stream by SDS.
    (Which is why I think it is a horrible idea for devs to pre-announce planned patch fixes unless they have definitive patch notes - like they obviously did last night)

    Maybe they can't fix it without some major work, same with spring training subs. They won't say that though.
    What I find amusing about this whole thing is the reason they even added the feature of having a pitcher DH is because of Ohtani...and recently they removed the ability for him to pitch!!
    Honestly it’s kinda funny .. really really dumb, but kinda funny
    The lack of communication on this DH bug is frustrating. No question. I do believe it will still be fixed.
    But how can anyone be surprised that offline franchise players are on the lowest priority? Come on guys. I won't let that get me worked up into a fit of rage or get me so pissed off.
    I am probably hexing myself but in all my franchises it has not shown up. Crazy. And I think that is what is delaying the fix. Finding and zeroing in on the exact cause. That is why I just want them to delete the code that allows two way players.
    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.
    Let's face it - with the Venditte two-handed pitcher, video game creators were now put in a tough spot. They never had to deal with this before. Then Ohtani comes along, and we have the "two-way" player in baseball. I'm no computer / gaming creator expert - shoot, I know nothing about programming and code. But baseball was able to just get lazy because they could throw the SAME game out year-after-year with little effort being made. Once they realized there was a LOT of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to be made in other modes, the offline gamer and franchise person got screwed. I'm 47 - I'm really losing interest in this stuff. In 2019 I've already lessened my TV viewing hours, lessened my video gaming hours, and have read 8 novels, working on my 9th, read the Bible thru and working on read-thru #2 for 2019, and have read another 7 books related to my work. Garbage like this DH glitch not getting fixed really helps me walk away from this more and more. And this is coming from a guy who OBSESSED over realistic rosters in years past. I could honestly care less now...and the irony of it all? It was the video gaming industry that helped me make my decision...
    Armor and Sword
    The lack of communication on this DH bug is frustrating. No question. I do believe it will still be fixed.
    But how can anyone be surprised that offline franchise players are on the lowest priority? Come on guys. I won't let that get me worked up into a fit of rage or get me so pissed off.
    I am probably hexing myself but in all my franchises it has not shown up. Crazy. And I think that is what is delaying the fix. Finding and zeroing in on the exact cause. That is why I just want them to delete the code that allows two way players.
    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.

    I guess on the bright side 30 team control can fix the issue if you’re a franchise player. If you’re a RTTS player it really sucks.
    stormchaserck19
    I guess on the bright side 30 team control can fix the issue if you’re a franchise player. If you’re a RTTS player it really sucks.

    Jumping the gun a bit, but if they do plan on incorporating March to October to franchise next year.....does 30 team control go away? Curious about this.
    stormchaserck19
    I guess on the bright side 30 team control can fix the issue if you’re a franchise player. If you’re a RTTS player it really sucks.

    30 team control doesn't fix it... Only way to work around it is using 2 controllers to control both teams to set lineups when going into a game or switching teams and making substitution if you only have one controller...
    stormchaserck19
    I guess on the bright side 30 team control can fix the issue if you’re a franchise player. If you’re a RTTS player it really sucks.

    The fix is fleeing to the NL once your player has free agent eligibility.
    Bartolo Colon
    The fix is fleeing to the NL once your player has free agent eligibility.

    LOL fair point. Or I guess turning off the DH making pitchers hit in both leagues if you’re a franchise player..
    stormchaserck19
    LOL fair point. Or I guess turning off the DH making pitchers hit in both leagues if you’re a franchise player..

    Just like baseball is supposed to be. Nine positions. Nine spots in the lineup. That’s not a coincidence.
    The patch I’m really hoping for is the one that fixes the MLB glitch that allows pinch hitters to remain in the lineup for the entire game.
    *climbs off the soapbox while giving the finger and shouting, “Ban the DH!”
    Armor and Sword
    The lack of communication on this DH bug is frustrating. No question. I do believe it will still be fixed.
    But how can anyone be surprised that offline franchise players are on the lowest priority? Come on guys. I won't let that get me worked up into a fit of rage or get me so pissed off.
    I am probably hexing myself but in all my franchises it has not shown up. Crazy. And I think that is what is delaying the fix. Finding and zeroing in on the exact cause. That is why I just want them to delete the code that allows two way players.
    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.

    Sony is working on a fix, I know that for a fact... so be patient as for it not affecting your franchise thats great but it is affecting lots of others so the theory about people asking for it for one player isnt the point. The point is 2 way players are becoming a standard in the game so they have to be incorporated in some way. They are working on it so lets hope they can find a fix and a way to make everyone happy. Roster editors would love a way to make it editable so that has been brought up. I would guess we will all get a fix soon that will make us happy.
    countryboy
    There's another patch in the works (patch 1.12)

    I wonder if it will be released as quickly as 1.10 was after 1.09? I really would like to see the spring training substitution problem fixed without doing any workarounds.
    BigOrangeVol4Life
    I wonder if it will be released as quickly as 1.10 was after 1.09? I really would like to see the spring training substitution problem fixed without doing any workarounds.

    I doubt it releases that fast.
    Has anyone played ST since this patch to see if the substitution issue has been resolved, but not mentioned?
    I'm reaching my breaking point with this game honestly. Here it is, entering June and there are numerous issues preventing anyone from playing a functional franchise without performing so many workarounds that I need a list. I don't want to feel like I'm working when playing this game, and that's exactly what it feels like. I just wish for once, they'd take their attention away from DD and spend some time correcting legacy issues that have been present for YEARS, not just franchise mode, but throughout the entire game. Sorry, rant over.
    No worries, I'm pretty certain the DH issue and sub selection, for computer controlled teams in Spring Training will all be added as a 'New Feature', for Franchise come 2020. In the mean time, keep saving your $60 dollars for the next year of, usual bugs, frustrations and DD improvements, or save your dollar and put it, to some better use........ for a change .
    bravesfan1984
    I'm reaching my breaking point with this game honestly. Here it is, entering June and there are numerous issues preventing anyone from playing a functional franchise without performing so many workarounds that I need a list. I don't want to feel like I'm working when playing this game, and that's exactly what it feels like. I just wish for once, they'd take their attention away from DD and spend some time correcting legacy issues that have been present for YEARS, not just franchise mode, but throughout the entire game. Sorry, rant over.
    I've said it many times... I wish Sony would release 2 versions of this game (franchise version and diamond dynasty/road to the show version). I think things would go a lot smoother as far as designing the game, patches, updates, etc.
    RidinDwnKingsley
    Sony is working on a fix, I know that for a fact... so be patient as for it not affecting your franchise thats great but it is affecting lots of others so the theory about people asking for it for one player isnt the point. The point is 2 way players are becoming a standard in the game so they have to be incorporated in some way. They are working on it so lets hope they can find a fix and a way to make everyone happy. Roster editors would love a way to make it editable so that has been brought up. I would guess we will all get a fix soon that will make us happy.

    Ridin.....chillax. That was my point. That maybe that is why it is taking so long because they are trying to find what is causing it and pin pointing it. I know how many people are having this issue. But a few us do not...why? I don't know and maybe SDS is having issues too pin pointing it down. And I do know it is being worked on.
    As for the new standard......there is one true 2 way player that is well known in MLB right now.
    My other point was if they are having such a tough time fixing it.....take it out for 19 and work on a solid code for 20. Why have all this BS for one two way player?
    I can almost assure you 99% of us would not miss having the ability to bat and pitch with Ohtani on 19.
    KnightTemplar
    I think we've been spoiled to think that, for years, the Show revolved around this site, devs coming here, chatting with us, etc. I don't think they are going to mention things they "can't fix" in notes as we aren't their sole audience. We expect to be coddled a bit. Not working that way. Not defending them, just trying to give a reason why things that "can't be fixed" aren't outlined in patch notes.
    I'm curious, maybe I missed it, but who said it was being worked on for this patch?

    Is it “coddling” or is it simply expecting a product that cost money to work properly? I invested a ton of time in 18 and still am, I just feel bad for those who supported SDS this year and am not surprised they feel let down.
    BigOrangeVol4Life
    I've said it many times... I wish Sony would release 2 versions of this game (franchise version and diamond dynasty/road to the show version). I think things would go a lot smoother as far as designing the game, patches, updates, etc.

    What about those people that want to play all the modes? They have to buy the two different versions of the game?
    And you know what...there will still be bugs and the modes will still essentially have the same content because resources (time and manpower) are still what they are.
    RogerDodger
    Is it “coddling” or is it simply expecting a product that cost money to work properly? I invested a ton of time in 18 and still am, I just feel bad for those who supported SDS this year and am not surprised they feel let down.

    But, honestly, don't we go thru this every year it's released. There's always something, always. Seems each years release mirrors the year before. If we "expect" the game to work properly, but every year it's the same thing, shouldn't the buyer beware?
    Is anyone else experiencing screen flashes after the last two patches? The bottom half of my screen flashes white. Was not experiencing this prior to last two patches.
    It is frustrating for players to have to wait into June (hopefully) to wait for major bugs to be fixed and begin their franchises.
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    mariner690
    It is frustrating for players to have to wait into June (hopefully) to wait for major bugs to be fixed and begin their franchises.
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    And this helps how??
    Armor and Sword
    Ridin.....chillax. That was my point. That maybe that is why it is taking so long because they are trying to find what is causing it and pin pointing it. I know how many people are having this issue. But a few us do not...why? I don't know and maybe SDS is having issues too pin pointing it down. And I do know it is being worked on.
    As for the new standard......there is one true 2 way player that is well known in MLB right now.
    My other point was if they are having such a tough time fixing it.....take it out for 19 and work on a solid code for 20. Why have all this BS for one two way player?
    I can almost assure you 99% of us would not miss having the ability to bat and pitch with Ohtani on 19.

    Thanks for the advice, ill make sure i mark down to relax next time I decide to chime in. As for 99% thats not even close as i know guys who wont play franchise until its fixed and if its the 2 way player situation isnt fixed wont play at all this year. As for one in MLB yes i am aware so thanks for informing me on that BUT i was talking about it as its about to be a whole lot more as we have organizations using multiple 2 way players in AA and AAA across the board that may come in to play this season as playoff races heat up. The Rays alone have multiple guys in triple A they are prepping to use including top prospect Brendan McKay. So chillax as I was just letting everyone know i was aware of a fix. You or any die hard franchise guy cant tell me they dont want the option of 2 way players this year so lets stop speculating it cant be fixed until we are told that, as of now the communication is its being worked on.
    RidinDwnKingsley
    Thanks for the advice, ill make sure i mark down to relax next time I decide to chime in. As for 99% thats not even close as i know guys who wont play franchise until its fixed and if its the 2 way player situation isnt fixed wont play at all this year. As for one in MLB yes i am aware so thanks for informing me on that BUT i was talking about it as its about to be a whole lot more as we have organizations using multiple 2 way players in AA and AAA across the board that may come in to play this season as playoff races heat up. The Rays alone have multiple guys in triple A they are prepping to use including top prospect Brendan McKay. So chillax as I was just letting everyone know i was aware of a fix. You or any die hard franchise guy cant tell me they dont want the option of 2 way players this year so lets stop speculating it cant be fixed until we are told that, as of now the communication is its being worked on.

    First I respect both of you guys in this argument. But as a die hard franchise guy I could not care any less for two way players right now as much as I just want a game that works. Take it out or leave it in. Don't care which way the pig farts just get it fixed one way or the other.
    So far the feedback on this patch is:
    Pitchers as a DH hasn't been fixed yet but is being looked into/worked on
    Ridin and Armor are chillaxin
    I don't care for the 2 way player fad
    And bullit doesn't care which way the pig farts
    I don't know if that is what SDS was going for with this patch, but if so...well done guys..:appl:..well done. :cheers:
    countryboy
    So far the feedback on this patch is:
    Pitchers as a DH hasn't been fixed yet but is being looked into/worked on
    Ridin and Armor are chillaxin
    I don't care for the 2 way player fad
    And bullit doesn't care which way the pig farts
    I don't know if that is what SDS was going for with this patch, but if so...well done guys..:appl:..well done. :cheers:

    I'm currently on a 4 game losing streak where I scored a total of 4 runs. It was pre-patch, but I'm going to blame this one for it.
    :boxing:
    Wow...I’m so happy I haven’t purchased this game. I was planning to buy it as soon as they show ANY interest in fixing ANY franchise issues. What a let down...again!
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    You would think the "easiest" way to fix the pitchers as DH "bug" would be to just eliminate it, and allow us the option to actually set lineups WITH ANYONE at DH, pitchers included. Then code the game so the CPU puts the BEST hitter not starting at a position, at DH......
    In the case of the Angels, that would be Ohtani. In the case of most other teams, it would be a position player.....
    RidinDwnKingsley
    Thanks for the advice, ill make sure i mark down to relax next time I decide to chime in. As for 99% thats not even close as i know guys who wont play franchise until its fixed and if its the 2 way player situation isnt fixed wont play at all this year. As for one in MLB yes i am aware so thanks for informing me on that BUT i was talking about it as its about to be a whole lot more as we have organizations using multiple 2 way players in AA and AAA across the board that may come in to play this season as playoff races heat up. The Rays alone have multiple guys in triple A they are prepping to use including top prospect Brendan McKay. So chillax as I was just letting everyone know i was aware of a fix. You or any die hard franchise guy cant tell me they dont want the option of 2 way players this year so lets stop speculating it cant be fixed until we are told that, as of now the communication is its being worked on.

    I’m a franchise junkie and I don’t understand why anybody (who isn’t a die hard Angels fan) would really care about having 2-way players, let alone vow to not play at all this year without that option, it just isn’t prevalent enough currently in my opinion to warrant that.
    2-way players aren’t the new standard.....yet. They will be within a few years though and I think if SDS had played it correctly they would’ve spent this year and next year perfecting the kinks and their implementation of 2-way players into the game. Which would give enough time for a handful of guys to get up to the big leagues and gain popularity while validating they are the future of baseball. Then for MLB The Show 21 you get pitcher Ohtani facing hitter Ohtani on the cover and on the back of the box “THIS REVOLUTION IS HERE 2 STAY” and boom there’s your marketing gimmick for the year.
    I don’t have a problem with bugs and glitches usually, but I can’t remember the last feature they added that felt as rushed and thrown together as this one.
    But I’m hopeful they’ll have it fixed, I know those guys work their asses off.
    stormchaserck19
    I guess on the bright side 30 team control can fix the issue if you’re a franchise player. If you’re a RTTS player it really sucks.

    I honestly haven’t read up on this like I should. I run 30-team control and I’m curious, how does it show up exactly and how can it be fixed using 30-Team control?
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    As much as I have and want to have a carryover franchise the game seems to continue coming up with reasons why this is problematic and bordering on infuriating.
    It seems like just picking one team and playing a single season with each release may be the best way to go.
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    Gagnon39
    I honestly haven’t read up on this like I should. I run 30-team control and I’m curious, how does it show up exactly and how can it be fixed using 30-Team control?
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    Not sure, either, because the ONLY team in Franchise I have seen it with, is the Angels. And I also run 30 team control, and set EVERY team's lineup, and rotation, and leave the rest to the CPU.
    In the Angel's lineup, I have Albert Pujols set as the DH against both right handers and left handers. But, when I play against the Angels (I use the Tigers) Ohtani is in the lineup as the DH, and not Pujols.
    I think the only work around, is manually going into the Angels games, starting them like you would a normal game, set the lineups, then once you are in game, sim it to the end......
    I don’t give a rats patootie about 2 way players either but it’s impossible for me to not have empathy for the utter frustration someone could have if it matters to them.
    They said it was coming in patch 11 and it clearly couldn’t happen. The solution of them just taking it out probably won’t happen either. What I’m guessing will happen is just less transparency from SDS on what they are working on from now on, which is unfortunate.
    I asked on the Shownation and got possibly the vaguest statement possible in response
    "Yes, we are looking into that issue. As mentioned on the stream, we don't have a timetable for when this is going to come out, but we're working on getting it out as soon as possible."
    CujoMatty
    The solution of them just taking it out probably won’t happen either.

    Well, little Johnny spent a LOT of stubs for his Ohtani card. He doesn’t deserve the pain and heartache.
    BigOscar
    I asked on the Shownation and got possibly the vaguest statement possible in response
    "Yes, we are looking into that issue. As mentioned on the stream, we don't have a timetable for when this is going to come out, but we're working on getting it out as soon as possible."

    It’s good they’re aware of the issue, hopefully it’s fixable (I imagine it is). Unless it becomes like interleague schedules never rotating, an issue that has never been fixed!
    CujoMatty
    I don’t give a rats patootie about 2 way players either but it’s impossible for me to not have empathy for the utter frustration someone could have if it matters to them.
    They said it was coming in patch 11 and it clearly couldn’t happen. The solution of them just taking it out probably won’t happen either. What I’m guessing will happen is just less transparency from SDS on what they are working on from now on, which is unfortunate.

    Unfortunately, the lack of transparency started a couple of years ago. And I have said a big part of that has been some of the attacks on (not criticisms of) SDS in particular. That said, I understand the frustration on both sides of this one, although I have not seen the 2 way player bug and I am not even sure what it is. IMO, SDS should fix bullpen logic (which is way more important to the game of baseball) before worrying about 2 way players or full implementation of the video review system.
    mariner690
    As much as I have and want to have a carryover franchise the game seems to continue coming up with reasons why this is problematic and bordering on infuriating.
    It seems like just picking one team and playing a single season with each release may be the best way to go.
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    I haven’t had any issues with my carryover using single team control
    *knocks on wood*
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    countryboy
    I haven’t had any issues with my carryover using single team control
    *knocks on wood*
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    I have played with two carry overs. One 30 team and the other single team. Both with no issues.
    30 team I carried over in the off season (started this on 17 and now in year 3) and the single team I carried over in July of year 3 (started it on 16 fantasy draft Cardinals).
    Go figure.
    BigOscar
    I asked on the Shownation and got possibly the vaguest statement possible in response
    "Yes, we are looking into that issue. As mentioned on the stream, we don't have a timetable for when this is going to come out, but we're working on getting it out as soon as possible."

    What are they supposed to say?
    They mentioned in a stream that they were looking into it for 1.11. When the fix wasn’t included people grabbed the pitch forks.
    Why should they back themselves into a corner when there is no guarantee that it can be fixed?
    The best thing anyone can take is that they are still working on it and trying to fix. Does it suck it still exists? Yes, but at least there is still hope that it can be fixed
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    Armor and Sword
    I have played with two carry overs. One 30 team and the other single team. Both with no issues.
    30 team I carried over in the off season (started this on 17 and now in year 3) and the single team I carried over in July of year 3 (started it on 16 fantasy draft Cardinals).
    Go figure.

    I have to think this is making it difficult to find an exact cause with an exact fix. There doesn’t seem to be a “do this and the bug will occur” scenario
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    countryboy
    I have to think this is making it difficult to find an exact cause with an exact fix. There doesn’t seem to be a “do this and the bug will occur” scenario
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    I would agree. Especially considering the ONLY team I have seen it happen with (a pitcher in the DH spot) is the Angels, and ONLY with Ohtani....
    I carried over a save from 18 and I sim quite a bit of games. I have a custom all time greats roster and my first playoff game against the twins, they had Walter Johnson at dh instead of Harmon killabrew who was the best hitter on bench and a legend at that. I do have cpu roster on and 30 team control. Easy fix is once you start the game, switch teams and sub him out and switch back. At least I can fix it on my own to satisfy my franchise.
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    Armor and Sword
    The lack of communication on this DH bug is frustrating. No question. I do believe it will still be fixed.
    But how can anyone be surprised that offline franchise players are on the lowest priority? Come on guys. I won't let that get me worked up into a fit of rage or get me so pissed off.
    I am probably hexing myself but in all my franchises it has not shown up. Crazy. And I think that is what is delaying the fix. Finding and zeroing in on the exact cause. That is why I just want them to delete the code that allows two way players.
    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.

    The part that doesn't make sense to me is that there needs to be code to allow for two way players. I would think it would be easier to simply let any player in the game play any position rather than restricting.
    And it's more than just Ohtani. He's just the only one since Ruth that's been any good at it.
    Armor and Sword

    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.

    Like the saying: Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.
    JHodges57
    Like the saying: Be careful what you ask for, you may get it.

    All I am saying is if they can’t nail this two way player bug for 19, take it out and work on it for 20 without a major bug like this.
    Yes I would like two way player ability like anyone else, but not at the expense of a franchise mode wrecking bug.
    So hopefully they work it out.
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    knich
    Unfortunately, the lack of transparency started a couple of years ago.

    ...and it landed in a big way when they removed the entire season mode without uttering a word about it, knowing full well people's carry-over files would become useless with the new version. That was a huge sign of things to come.
    Sorry guys, I'm still not over that one.
    Not to be nitpicky bc it is an art thing, but Chase Field still has grass and the scoreboard is from three years ago....last year they updated Coors Field after release.
    Regardless of anything, it seems the easiest way to fix the bug is to set the priorities on hitting attributes when the CPU selects a DH. CPU should be selecting the best hitter not in the lineup at a fielding position for that spot, whether it is a Pitcher (Ohtani) or not. (And then of course comparing fielding attributes of the chosen player with whoever is in their position spot in the field and swapping them if the player at DH is a better fielder, not with pitchers though).
    Of course the other part of this bug is that Pitchers who are appearing at DH are having their energy depleted and then not having full energy when there turn comes up in the pitching rotation.
    I HAVE THE PERFECT SOLUTION. DO FRANCHISE WITHOUT THE DH, PLAY THE ORIGINAL WAY TO PLAY, NO DH. YOU WILL FIND THE GAME MUCH MORE FUN AND EXCITING. YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK WHEN TO PINCH HIT FOR YOUR AMERICAN LEAGUE PITCHER, JUST THE WAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE DOES. NO DH. NO DH. IF YOU PLAY THE FIELD YOU BAT.
    Armor and Sword
    The lack of communication on this DH bug is frustrating. No question. I do believe it will still be fixed.
    But how can anyone be surprised that offline franchise players are on the lowest priority? Come on guys. I won't let that get me worked up into a fit of rage or get me so pissed off.
    I am probably hexing myself but in all my franchises it has not shown up. Crazy. And I think that is what is delaying the fix. Finding and zeroing in on the exact cause. That is why I just want them to delete the code that allows two way players.
    It is for one freaking player!!!!! And all the crying about being able to use Ohtani as a two way player by members on this board has led to this ugly bug.
    All for one freaking player.
    Ridiculous. Just simply nonsense.
    Take it out. It obviously ****ed the entire logic up so take it out.

    this!!!!! 100%
    LADodgerMan
    I HAVE THE PERFECT SOLUTION. DO FRANCHISE WITHOUT THE DH, PLAY THE ORIGINAL WAY TO PLAY, NO DH. YOU WILL FIND THE GAME MUCH MORE FUN AND EXCITING. YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK WHEN TO PINCH HIT FOR YOUR AMERICAN LEAGUE PITCHER, JUST THE WAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE DOES. NO DH. NO DH. IF YOU PLAY THE FIELD YOU BAT.

    Caps lock?
    There are a lot of players who have been carrying over a file for multiple years now and do not want to start over. It may be more fun that way for some, but it is not a solution to the problem. Also there are those of us that like playing with the rules the MLB has now and not before the DH rule came into effect.
    Bartolo Colon
    Blue Jays and Rays had alternate caps patched in.

    This made me super excited. I rushed to my PS4 and turned it on. I started playing a game and yes! The cap is in the game.
    ... and then my team came to bat.
    Kind of a good news/bad news situation here. The Blue Jays alternate IS in the game, but it doesn't change the batting helmet. The batting helmet when wearing this cap is wrong, it's the solid blue one, not the white panel like it should be.
    I know the focus is on the DH issue but I have to tell you...the transferring of preloaded throws when switching fielders is a God send. So nice now that when a ball is in the outfield and I'm switching fielders to have the stronger arm throw the ball, that I don't have to worry about re-loading my throw. So welcomed.
    Thanks SDS! :cheers:
    Armor and Sword
    All I am saying is if they can’t nail this two way player bug for 19, take it out and work on it for 20 without a major bug like this.
    Yes I would like two way player ability like anyone else, but not at the expense of a franchise mode wrecking bug.
    So hopefully they work it out.
    [fvc
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    Sorry, my comment was not about what you said. It was about the people you were referring to, or people in general.
    LADodgerMan
    I HAVE THE PERFECT SOLUTION. DO FRANCHISE WITHOUT THE DH, PLAY THE ORIGINAL WAY TO PLAY, NO DH. YOU WILL FIND THE GAME MUCH MORE FUN AND EXCITING. YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK WHEN TO PINCH HIT FOR YOUR AMERICAN LEAGUE PITCHER, JUST THE WAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE DOES. NO DH. NO DH. IF YOU PLAY THE FIELD YOU BAT.

    The N.L. is going to the DH within a few years.
    Bullit
    I doubt they will.

    If there is any respect for the classic roster community they will keep it as an option.
    I really hope it is kept. If not.....well then that is what we will have to deal with.
    And I am still holding out hope when they move to the PS5 some years down the line (I do not expect it right away because there are not going to be as many early adopters including yours truly) that they come up with a MyLeague format to franchise mode like 2K has in terms of full customizable leagues.
    I like 2K.....I still play 2K18. MyLeague mode is the gold standard for custom options. It is amazing. Madden and The Show could learn from what they give franchise players in terms of options and retro roster gameplay.
    I can only hope we get this for baseball. Which is by far my favorite sport and console sports game.
    TheWarmWind
    This made me super excited. I rushed to my PS4 and turned it on. I started playing a game and yes! The cap is in the game.
    ... and then my team came to bat.
    Kind of a good news/bad news situation here. The Blue Jays alternate IS in the game, but it doesn't change the batting helmet. The batting helmet when wearing this cap is wrong, it's the solid blue one, not the white panel like it should be.

    I thought the Jays had been wearing solid blue helmets this year even with the white panel caps?
    LADodgerMan
    I HAVE THE PERFECT SOLUTION. DO FRANCHISE WITHOUT THE DH, PLAY THE ORIGINAL WAY TO PLAY, NO DH. YOU WILL FIND THE GAME MUCH MORE FUN AND EXCITING. YOU WILL HAVE TO THINK WHEN TO PINCH HIT FOR YOUR AMERICAN LEAGUE PITCHER, JUST THE WAY THE NATIONAL LEAGUE DOES. NO DH. NO DH. IF YOU PLAY THE FIELD YOU BAT.

    Besides that this is not a solution, the game also puts pitchers in RF. So that wouldn't solve it.
    JHodges57
    The N.L. is going to the DH within a few years.

    Why would the NL with much better attendance replicate the AL?
    I'll quit watching baseball if the NL is dumb enough to make that move.
    tessl
    Why would the NL with much better attendance replicate the AL?
    I'll quit watching baseball if the NL is dumb enough to make that move.

    if the nl wants to be unique from the al, instead of having a dh, just skip the pitcher batting altogether. 8 man batting lineups.IMO this is what the al should have done back in the 70's
    bronxbombers21325
    I thought the Jays had been wearing solid blue helmets this year even with the white panel caps?

    they wear the white panel helmet when they wear the white panel hats.
    tessl
    Why would the NL with much better attendance replicate the AL?
    I'll quit watching baseball if the NL is dumb enough to make that move.

    LOL , so you don't care about the sport then? Pitchers hitting is idiotic, ricks injury and no one like watching a near guaranteed out come up during a game. DH is the way to go and it's not even close.
    digitalrock
    LOL , so you don't care about the sport then? Pitchers hitting is idiotic, ricks injury and no one like watching a near guaranteed out come up during a game. DH is the way to go and it's not even close.

    How does that equate to not caring about the sport?
    I like watching pitchers hit. I like the strategy involved with having the pitcher in the lineup and what to with in critical situations.
    Just leave the game alone
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    Can we stop the endless bickering about the merit of the DH and instead just get back to the fact that in the game, the DH is still broken for an awful lot of people? Anyone who has any contact with the devs got any word on this yet?
    I've lost two franchises to it and I can't bring myself to start another until it's fixed.
    BigOscar
    Can we stop the endless bickering about the merit of the DH and instead just get back to the fact that in the game, the DH is still broken for an awful lot of people? Anyone who has any contact with the devs got any word on this yet?
    I've lost two franchises to it and I can't bring myself to start another until it's fixed.

    I was going to start a franchise over a month ago but have been holding off for this very reason. Please SDS please get this into patch 1.12. I just want to get started.
    countryboy
    How does that equate to not caring about the sport?
    I like watching pitchers hit. I like the strategy involved with having the pitcher in the lineup and what to with in critical situations.
    Just leave the game alone
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    You said you would stiop watching!! If you liked the sport the pitcher hitting would no strop you from watching...Pitchers hitting is dumb, always was always will be. Injury risk, pitchers suck at hitting..it is not entertaining.
    digitalrock
    You said you would stiop watching!! If you liked the sport the pitcher hitting would no strop you from watching...Pitchers hitting is dumb, always was always will be. Injury risk, pitchers suck at hitting..it is not entertaining.

    I didn't say that at all.
    digitalrock
    You said you would stiop watching!! If you liked the sport the pitcher hitting would no strop you from watching...Pitchers hitting is dumb, always was always will be. Injury risk, pitchers suck at hitting..it is not entertaining.

    Disagree. I like the strategy of having pitchers hit, and there are actually a few pitchers who aren’t easy outs. The point is this wasn’t broken last year or any of the years before that. So the developers need to fix the issue immediately.
    BigOscar
    Can we stop the endless bickering about the merit of the DH and instead just get back to the fact that in the game, the DH is still broken for an awful lot of people? Anyone who has any contact with the devs got any word on this yet?
    I've lost two franchises to it and I can't bring myself to start another until it's fixed.

    They are still working towards a fix.
    digitalrock
    You said you would stiop watching!! If you liked the sport the pitcher hitting would no strop you from watching...Pitchers hitting is dumb, always was always will be. Injury risk, pitchers suck at hitting..it is not entertaining.

    pitchers dont have to suck at hitting, they choose to. I'm going to go with the opinion hitting is less hazardous (see Ohtani) than pitching (aside from Clevelands Chapman)
    countryboy
    They are still working towards a fix.

    Do you think the pitcher/DH glitch goes hand in hand with the CPU substitution glitch during spring training? Do you see both getting fixed at the same time with the same patch?
    BigOrangeVol4Life
    Do you think the pitcher/DH glitch goes hand in hand with the CPU substitution glitch during spring training? Do you see both getting fixed at the same time with the same patch?

    I think the CPU substitution glitch in Spring Training is fixed with patch 1.12.
    I don't know about the pitcher/DH glitch, as to whether it will be fixed with patch 1.12 or not.
    1.12 update on the Live stream - Spring training substitution and DH bug fixed (Ramone said the latter one was a "doozy" to fix, btw).
    Yes, they said that before, for 1.10. It obviously got pushed back. My advice would be to wait and see that it's actually out before getting too excited. Seeing it in patch notes would be a pretty good indicator too.
    No date given. But there's been an interesting coincidence(?) with the last two patches - they came out the morning after a live stream. Will it happen again? Who knows. :y11:
    To be exact, Ramone stated the DH bug as "User-created players in custom rosters will no longer appear incorrectly as two-way players", then identified it as being what we called the DH bug.
    bcruise
    1.12 update on the Live stream - Spring training substitution and DH bug fixed (Ramone said the latter one was a "doozy" to fix, btw).
    Yes, they said that before, for 1.10. It obviously got pushed back. My advice would be to wait and see that it's actually out before getting too excited. Seeing it in patch notes would be a pretty good indicator too.
    No date given. But there's been an interesting coincidence(?) with the last two patches - they came out the morning after a live stream. Will it happen again? Who knows. :y11:
    To be exact, Ramone stated the DH bug as "User-created players in custom rosters will no longer appear incorrectly as two-way players", then identified it as being what we called the DH bug.

    We can only hope that it works correctly! Praying it does... But not holding my breath.
    bcruise
    1.12 update on the Live stream - Spring training substitution and DH bug fixed (Ramone said the latter one was a "doozy" to fix, btw).
    Yes, they said that before, for 1.10. It obviously got pushed back. My advice would be to wait and see that it's actually out before getting too excited. Seeing it in patch notes would be a pretty good indicator too.
    No date given. But there's been an interesting coincidence(?) with the last two patches - they came out the morning after a live stream. Will it happen again? Who knows. :y11:
    To be exact, Ramone stated the DH bug as "User-created players in custom rosters will no longer appear incorrectly as two-way players", then identified it as being what we called the DH bug.

    Sorry for double post
    Other good thing is that there is no tuning in this patch, only bug fixes.
    countryboy
    I know most probably don’t care but the button accuracy meter working properly is a big deal for me
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    Yes me too!!! Huge deal
    JHodges57
    So, who is going to restart a season to play spring training games and enjoy the fix?

    Restart? I'm just glad that hopefully I can finally "start" a franchise lolol
    bcruise
    1.12 update on the Live stream - Spring training substitution and DH bug fixed (Ramone said the latter one was a "doozy" to fix, btw).
    Yes, they said that before, for 1.10. It obviously got pushed back. My advice would be to wait and see that it's actually out before getting too excited. Seeing it in patch notes would be a pretty good indicator too.
    No date given. But there's been an interesting coincidence(?) with the last two patches - they came out the morning after a live stream. Will it happen again? Who knows. :y11:
    To be exact, Ramone stated the DH bug as "User-created players in custom rosters will no longer appear incorrectly as two-way players", then identified it as being what we called the DH bug.

    But none of my players are user created... My roster was a SDS roster when I started.
    TheWarmWind
    But none of my players are user created... My roster was a SDS roster when I started.

    I would assume any of the minor league guys in the SDS rosters would fall under user created.
    Well, that's really great to know that there's a fix coming in 1.12. Assuming it happens this time. I've just been switching my AAA pitcher around in the rotation to trick the game into thinking he's pitching the next game to avoid him getting placed at DH or RF. At this point, I've given up on the other 87 teams out there. There's just not much I could do and it's not worth the constant effort. So I have no idea how common it is but I'm sure it's happening. Eager to see this patch hopefully sometime next week.
    HozAndMoose
    I would assume any of the minor league guys in the SDS rosters would fall under user created.
    I've seen the bug effect Zach Greinke, Lance Lynn, and other real life pitchers.
    I'm hoping "user generated" means "players created before 2019", but you can see why I find their language worrying.
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    bravesfan1984
    Restart? I'm just glad that hopefully I can finally "start" a franchise lolol

    You must play the game year round if you've waited this far into the season to begin your franchise.
    Do you actually play out the entire spring training?
    JHodges57
    You must play the game year round if you've waited this far into the season to begin your franchise.
    Do you actually play out the entire spring training?

    This is basically the only game I play so year round, yes. No, I don't play ST games. 162 in regular season is enough for me, can't throw another 40 or so on top of that lol
    JHodges57
    You must play the game year round if you've waited this far into the season to begin your franchise.
    Do you actually play out the entire spring training?

    I usually wait until now to start a franchise as well since it typically takes until now to get the bugs worked out. I also don't play many other games throughout the course of the year so it's easy to focus most of my attention on The Show. It's still the best sports game out there despite some of the things others will say.
    RidinDwnKingsley
    Sony is working on a fix, I know that for a fact...

    I don't care anymore. As one person said above, this is no longer a Day 1 pickup but I'll go one further: I'm not buying anymore. Franchise is the ugly, redheaded stepchild of this company/brand/game and I'm not part of it any longer. I haven't played 19 since the last week of March when the glitch showed up in a playoff game as Dillon Gee batted cleanup for my ALCS opponent. I paid $90 CDN for a game I've got single digit hours into 10 weeks later.
    F*** off, SDS. You're dead to me, Fredo.
    BeatArmy
    I don't care anymore. As one person said above, this is no longer a Day 1 pickup but I'll go one further: I'm not buying anymore. Franchise is the ugly, redheaded stepchild of this company/brand/game and I'm not part of it any longer. I haven't played 19 since the last week of March when the glitch showed up in a playoff game as Dillon Gee batted cleanup for my ALCS opponent. I paid $90 CDN for a game I've got single digit hours into 10 weeks later.
    F*** off, SDS. You're dead to me, Fredo.

    Maybe I don't have a wide enough selection of yearly games....but not sure what you are going to migrate to that is much different. I can't remember the last game I purchased that was day 1 ready and without need of patches/adjustments.
    stormchaserck19
    I usually wait until now to start a franchise as well since it typically takes until now to get the bugs worked out. I also don't play many other games throughout the course of the year so it's easy to focus most of my attention on The Show. It's still the best sports game out there despite some of the things others will say.

    Ok. I play RDR2 95% of the time right now but I have about 3 or 4 other games I play regularly so I tend to play The Show franchise in as fast a way as possible in MoM. Just not enough hours in a day. I think they should make days 48 hours long.
    JHodges57
    So, who is going to restart a season to play spring training games and enjoy the fix?

    I'm not restarting a season but when I finish my Orioles 2019 season, I'll start a fresh Mariners 2019 season and I will be eager to see how spring training goes
    *fingers crossed*
    taterskin
    Maybe I don't have a wide enough selection of yearly games....but not sure what you are going to migrate to that is much different. I can't remember the last game I purchased that was day 1 ready and without need of patches/adjustments.

    That's not the point. The point is that it's a gamebreaking bug that's been documented as being almost constantly presented and, after what's now version 1.11, totally unaddressed. This company/studio has been given enough grace for their inattention (at best) and ignorance (at worst) of franchise mode for the past.... three? four? ... years. Enough of paying for the development of DD, I'm done with new purchases from SDS.
    countryboy
    My guess is either Tuesday or Friday.

    This originally said Monday or Tuesday. Was this an informed guesstimate, or just someone thinking they know something when they don’t? Kinda like when the normal consumer issues guarantees on SDS behalf, cause I love those. Makes me feel so warm and fuzzy being told something by someone that knows nothing of the true outcome.
    Crinos1981
    This originally said Monday or Tuesday. Was this an informed guesstimate, or just someone thinking they know something when they don’t? Kinda like when the normal consumer issues guarantees on SDS behalf, cause I love those. Makes me feel so warm and fuzzy being told something by someone that knows nothing of the true outcome.

    It never said Monday or Tuesday.
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    Crinos1981
    This originally said Monday or Tuesday. Was this an informed guesstimate, or just someone thinking they know something when they don’t? Kinda like when the normal consumer issues guarantees on SDS behalf, cause I love those. Makes me feel so warm and fuzzy being told something by someone that knows nothing of the true outcome.

    If someone edits a posts it’ll say so. It said Tuesday or Friday the whole time.
    Ex: like this
    Caulfield
    thats interesting. so, ''user created pitchers'' were the culprit all along ?

    That is what SDS says was causing the bug. I don't know that it was actually "user created pitchers", but there was something in the code that was triggering the bug.
    SDS believes this will fix the issue. Guess we'll find out as people get going in their franchises/RTTS seasons.

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