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MLB The Show 19 March to October Details, Video and Screenshots

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MLB The Show 19 March to October Details, Video and Screenshots

GameStop has posted their official MLB Monday, featuring MLB The Show 19’s new March to October mode with game designer, John Livingston.

We’ve embedded the video below, along with some bulleted details and captured screenshots. Make sure to post your thoughts.

  • March to October allows players to experience all of the excitement of your teams season, in less time, by having you play on the seasons key games and moments
  • Your performance in these games really count, as the outcome will impact a teams momentum factor, that in-turn, influences how your team performs in the simulated games that happen in between the ones you play
  • Starting your March to October – Choose a franchise: Teams are divided into 4 expectation tiers – Favorites, Contenders, Underdogs and Longshots
  • Next you choose a difficulty level – Depending on what you select, will determine which rewards package you will earn, if you take your team to a World Series championship
  • Over 100 unique team themed rewards available, the harder the difficulty, the better your reward
  • Action begins in the middle to late innings of your opening day matchup, after playing the game to its end, you will be shown how the outcome has affected the team momentum
  • As you watch the calendar advance to your next key game, you will notice the outcomes of the simulated games are influenced by the positive or negative momentum you earned previously
  • Through the repetition of game flow, you will be delivered from episode to episode with maximum action and intrigue and minimal menu interfacing
  • In most episodes you will play as the whole team, but there are select player lock episodes
  • You could be asked to execute a key duty from a GM
  • As you progress through the season, unique narrative commentary will progressively and dynamically unfold to the story of your clubs campaign
  • Content will vary based not only on how your season is going, but also on how your teams performance compares to what was expected entering the season
  • This fast paced mode is all about getting your team to the postseason and beyond
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  1. That about sums up my thoughts on it. Thanks for removing season mode though! Can't wait to play less baseball, you know, on a baseball game... Genius!
    Uhhh...yeah that's not for me at all. Looks like there's gonna be a lot of disappointed people who thought Season Mode was being rebranded. I just hope that field reporter is also in franchise mode. That's my main takeaway.
    Ewww, that’s an anticlimax. Imagine if they’d spent all that time putting those nice overlays and slick new features into the franchise mode they already have. Of the people who wanted season mode back, I wonder how many wanted THIS?
    Like who asked for this, literally? Who sat there and said they wanted anything like this? Cause it sure as hell hasn’t shown up anywhere I’ve ever seen discussions for this game.
    Quit trying to make baseball something it is not! If you don’t believe you can sell the product of baseball and it’s gameplay and season then maybe you should make some other kind of game.
    Nothing feels more fake and rushed to me than to play an inning of a game, do well or do poorly and then have that impact how the next handful of simulated games go. If this is the direction this franchise is heading then maybe it is time for me to abandon ship. Putting time into stuff like this with all of the other glaring issues and omissions. No thank you.
    Horrible, simply horrible.
    I love playing every game. I can suck at one game and deliver the next.
    Sweeping series, winning the rubber game or just getting 1 out of 3 or 4, keeping me in the race for the pennant.
    That is what i like doing, so i will continue to play franchise. I'm now used to the fact that we don't have season mode anymore.
    I play franchise with everything turned to auto, and it's fine for what i want.
    This new mode is - for me - a complete waste of time and resources.
    I assume this is their way to get some casual players to play a season in this way?
    No idea what they were thinking, but i'm clearly not the person they target their game to. I accept that and still enjoy the game for what it is.
    Hope they will continue to improve the gameplay aspect, as i'm fine to continue to play franchise with classic rosters. Once that is gone (which i don't think will happen) i'm gone too.
    It’s just the Moments mode in a season mode.
    I would assume their data shows a lot of franchise players start but never finish a season so they probably think this will help.
    I’ll stick with franchise mode though.
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    I might think this was a cool addition if I were a junior high kid or younger who didn't have the attention span for an in-depth franchise mode. I don't mean that to sound insulting. Kids play games, too, and I'll never fault developers for making stuff targeted at them.
    I don't know what other audience this would appeal to, though. You could already replicate a lot of what this seems to offer in a regular franchise mode if you choose to sim.
    As a franchise guy it's not for me, But I can see how it would appeal to some. Unfortunately, those of us who love the grind of playing every pitch of every inning are in the minority and it seems a dying breed. Hopefully on Thursday we will be pleasantly surprised but I'm not holding my breath. Not a huge deal to me, I'll just keep playing 18.
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    Can almost guarantee this lasts one game and is taken out next time.
    I can see people playing it. Casual baseball gamers so dont think it's the worst mode ever but like a broken record, it's depressing as a Franchise player if they haven't added anything there and spent time on this.
    One positive was the female broadcaster shown. Hopefully thats added to Franchise and breaks up the commentary a bit.
    TELEMETRY DATA, is killing this game. SDS absolute reliance on this data has made for some dumb decisions. I'm sure other sports games collect data and finds ways to improve the experience to engage the user. SDS, takes this data and think make it faster, which is the antithesis of baseball. They take a phrase, synonymous with a playoff push and make it a sim fest, instead part of "PHASES" in franchise. A phase that could have had presentation and commentary package. The same way they added commentary late to last years game.
    Oh my God...brutal. Stop reinventing the wheel. Couldn't people do the same thing is a regular season mode by selecting whatever games they want...and simming the rest? Some people want to play 162...others once a week...others once a month. Who cares? They had it right 2 years ago. Season mode and you select how many and which games you want to play. Easy peasy.
    C
    I read the comments here and expected that to be worse than it was. So they basically added a full team story mode with branching storylines? It’s an interesting idea at least. Def aimed at people who Sim a lot of their season so they can actually get through it id imagine. I’m curious how long the actual mode takes. Like on average how many full games are in there.
    I kind of like the idea if it was just game by game. Like advancing you to critical games. But I’m not a super fan of the player lock stuff and even less of a fan of the GM stuff that’s out of your control. But that’s just me and I can see how some people would enjoy just going for the ride.
    That being said I can def see this mode not lasting more than this year. Franchise guys aren’t gonna play it and obviously are gonna rage over it. And DD guys aren’t gonna play it unless it goes quick and there’s some kind of mega reward at the end. So who does that leave? I’m sure there’s some who will play but I don’t think enough.
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    The Kid 24
    Anyone know who that female reporter was? I’m guessing she’s the * in Thursday stream.
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    I was looking thru the list of MLB hosts and nobody equals the * count exactly. The closest is Heidi Watney?
    Not surprised. I actually think I mentioned in the other thread that i thought that those thinking it was the return of a regular season mode were building themselves up for a letdown.
    If I buy the game I will at least give the mode a try as the Cardinals.
    Jeffrey Smith
    It’s just the Moments mode in a season mode.
    I would assume their data shows a lot of franchise players start but never finish a season so they probably think this will help.
    I’ll stick with franchise mode though.
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    There "data" probably shows this because like me they get bored with the game after 2 months because its so dull.
    I think this mode will have a use amongst the community. It seems to be a mixture of DD, RTTS, and Season mode mashed into one game mode. While its certainly not my cup of tea, I can definitely see where there would be a user base for it.
    I am curious to see the stream about it and learn more details. I'm thinking its a single season, but in the video, its mentioned that you take your team thru the postseason and beyond, so I'm wondering if it continues on past one season. Also, how much GM duties are involved in this mode?
    Now, while I think there is a place and user base for this mode, its highly disappointing that this was the response to the Season mode player that lost their favorite game mode last year, especially given the matter in which it happened. I would've bet that after the backlash received after SeasonGate, that the original season mode would've been added back to the game modes.
    Unless they have made an option in franchise mode to play less than 162 games, then season mode players are once again getting the short end of the stick, and if March to October is their consolation prize, then that is a shame and extremely disappointing.
    Feels like they were really pleased with all the effort they put into Critical Moments, but then were unhappy that not enough people used it, so they've just made an entire mode out of it. Replacing Seasons Mode with Critical Moments Season Mode is a huge fail in my opinion and not something I think anyone has been calling for.
    Not my cup of tea at all.
    Makes my hopes of any substantial franchise mode improvements almost nill.
    I assumed a sideline reporter because twitter partners talking about things. Honestly that doesn't do much for me if the core of the mode still has legacy bugs from the past 10 years.
    Extensions do NOTHING for me. 95% of extensions that happen in real baseball already occur in the show during arbitration and renewable time.
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    Well, this is different....I love the idea of a branching storyline concept - something all franchise modes out there really suck at is story-telling. Plus, full franchise modes can be quite daunting for a lot of people due to their sheer depth (which is likely why they are failing to gain traction with newer players - they are just way too bogged-down). This might be a fun stepping-stone for a lot of folks and may allow for a re-growth of the audience for the franchise mode down the road.
    I have a hunch though that this mode is going to be a bit TOO abbreviated for my personal tastes, but I am definitely going to try it out and see if I enjoy it or not. If SDS spent time putting this together, then it would be silly not to take advantage of it. One idea that intrigues me, IF the mode allows for the use to load a custom roster, is running a historical roster through the mode (I just don't have the time to run multiple franchises and play-out 162 games in each one).
    I really give SDS credit for trying to do something different here and not just re-hashing the old season mode as something "new" (which is the type of onerous thing EA would do). I'm curious to see the reactions from the masses on Thursday's stream and whether or not it resonates with them. Of course, the more stodgy/stubborn "I only play franchise" types will dismiss it out-of-hand like they usually do. But the important "tell" is how the "general audience" reacts - I'm hoping that this succeeds and draws more people back towards the offline modes.
    I love that they are trying to add more fun back into the game and between this mode and Moments, I think they've added a lot of additional value for offline gamers this year.
    JoshC1977
    Well, this is different....I love the idea of a branching storyline concept - something all franchise modes out there really suck at is story-telling. Plus, full franchise modes can be quite daunting for a lot of people due to their sheer depth (which is likely why they are failing to gain traction with newer players - they are just way too bogged-down). This might be a fun stepping-stone for a lot of folks and may allow for a re-growth of the audience for the franchise mode down the road.
    I have a hunch though that this mode is going to be a bit TOO abbreviated for my personal tastes, but I am definitely going to try it out and see if I enjoy it or not. If SDS spent time putting this together, then it would be silly not to take advantage of it. One idea that intrigues me, IF the mode allows for the use to load a custom roster, is running a historical roster through the mode (I just don't have the time to run multiple franchises and play-out 162 games in each one).
    I really give SDS credit for trying to do something different here and not just re-hashing the old season mode as something "new" (which is the type of onerous thing EA would do). I'm curious to see the reactions from the masses on Thursday's stream and whether or not it resonates with them. Of course, the more stodgy/stubborn "I only play franchise" types will dismiss it out-of-hand like they usually do. But the important "tell" is how the "general audience" reacts - I'm hoping that this succeeds and draws more people back towards the offline modes.
    I love that they are trying to add more fun back into the game and between this mode and Moments, I think they've added a lot of additional value for offline gamers this year.

    I didn't even think of this, but if you can use custom rosters then I may actually play this mode.
    I've always wanted to play through a historical season, but never wanted to start a second franchise because of the time that is consumed by that mode.
    Ok, yeah pretty much agree it's a mode that's not needed. It was a way to appease the people who miss Season Mode while somehow working in DD/rewards into every single aspect of the game.
    My one hope is that maybe, just maybe, they include the 4 tiers of teams into Franchise, i.e., the teams spend and trade as if they are contenders, etc. and possibly that logic is a bit more updated.
    It's a hope, faint, but a hope.
    Before reading/seeing any details, I just wanted to say thanks to the first handful of posters with the memes and gifs, I was cracking up. I'm with most/all of you on this one, this doesn't seem like a mode I'll ever click on even once.
    At this point, I just pray the gameplay in '19 is super smooth. I've enjoyed (still playing '18 up to the release of '19, like I do every year with the previous year's release) '18 as far as gameplay. I can load my franchise, and with quick counts get an entire series in pretty quickly. However, it seems to me that even WITH quick counts, my daily gaming sessions of getting in a few series each day has turned into just a game or two. I love baseball, and I love the Show...but as a franchise-only guy, I can't lie this game is getting pretty stale.
    I already have '19 pre-ordered. I know I'll play it throughout the Summer months and enjoy it. But, I definitely agree that this game is getting pretty stale for us franchise guys. The Show '20 will be the first one I don't pre-order in quite some time. If Franchise isn't overhauled for '20, I'll probably just stick with '19 and updated rosters. Isn't OSFM fading away into the distance after '19 anyways?
    KnightTemplar
    Ugh. I'm just giving up on any hope. If the sideline reporter is done as poorly at the post game reporter, how quickly can we hit X to get past that?

    then telemetry will report we're skipping cutscenes and first thing we know we'll have less of those in MLB'20 and more DD features instead. :p
    The Kid 24
    Anyone know who that female reporter was? I’m guessing she’s the * in Thursday stream.
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    Definitely Heidi Watney.
    When I watch this and the "asteroids" type explosions I can't help think a hybrid of DD and retro mode. Unfortunately, it appears this is the future of MLB THE SHOW. I miss "the little things" stream...
    IHateDuke32
    Before reading/seeing any details, I just wanted to say thanks to the first handful of posters with the memes and gifs, I was cracking up. I'm with most/all of you on this one, this doesn't seem like a mode I'll ever click on even once.
    At this point, I just pray the gameplay in '19 is super smooth. I've enjoyed (still playing '18 up to the release of '19, like I do every year with the previous year's release) '18 as far as gameplay. I can load my franchise, and with quick counts get an entire series in pretty quickly. However, it seems to me that even WITH quick counts, my daily gaming sessions of getting in a few series each day has turned into just a game or two. I love baseball, and I love the Show...but as a franchise-only guy, I can't lie this game is getting pretty stale.
    I already have '19 pre-ordered. I know I'll play it throughout the Summer months and enjoy it. But, I definitely agree that this game is getting pretty stale for us franchise guys.

    Almost verbatim for me.
    This last year is the first year I didn't make it thru the entire year. I get it, I get it, SDS is to make money, I get it. Grasp at straws to put something "new" on the cover is what it appears like to me. Moments and this one? I won't even give it a try. If the move is to drag in "new" customers to the game of baseball, not quite sure how these new modes do it, unless they're happy to just have the game bought for modes that are casual play (and shelving when it's not in use).
    Yet another year of Matt, groan. Maybe he signed that ten year deal like Bryce. Now there would be something to slap a NEW on the cover, Matt gone.
    TripleCrown
    then telemetry will report we're skipping cutscenes and first thing we know we'll have less of those in MLB'20 and more DD features instead. :p

    Haha, For every cutscene that gets skipped, DD gets a new feature.
    Side note: oh man would I be psyched if a mode like this showed up in WWE2k lol. Here, not so much. And this mode I think Franchise players should be way more annoyed at than DD stuff. Because the guys who worked on this mode are probably the guys who would have worked on Franchise.
    Karle
    So were given two new modes, Moments and March to October which basically involve playing mostly only in critical situations. However, for me I prefer playing full games rather than bits and pieces.
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    Yeah, I'm with you there, never cared for critical situations. I just don't get the drama if I didn't get into that situation. Bases loaded, down by 3, 2 outs in the 9th is only exciting to me if I've built up that situation, I've worked the bases full, I've gotten myself into a huge situation. If you just plonk me down and say "this is a big moment we've stuck you in", it does nothing for me, there is no build up of excitement and suspense
    JoshC1977
    Well, this is different....I love the idea of a branching storyline concept - something all franchise modes out there really suck at is story-telling. Plus, full franchise modes can be quite daunting for a lot of people due to their sheer depth (which is likely why they are failing to gain traction with newer players - they are just way too bogged-down). This might be a fun stepping-stone for a lot of folks and may allow for a re-growth of the audience for the franchise mode down the road.
    I have a hunch though that this mode is going to be a bit TOO abbreviated for my personal tastes, but I am definitely going to try it out and see if I enjoy it or not. If SDS spent time putting this together, then it would be silly not to take advantage of it. One idea that intrigues me, IF the mode allows for the use to load a custom roster, is running a historical roster through the mode (I just don't have the time to run multiple franchises and play-out 162 games in each one).
    I really give SDS credit for trying to do something different here and not just re-hashing the old season mode as something "new" (which is the type of onerous thing EA would do). I'm curious to see the reactions from the masses on Thursday's stream and whether or not it resonates with them. Of course, the more stodgy/stubborn "I only play franchise" types will dismiss it out-of-hand like they usually do. But the important "tell" is how the "general audience" reacts - I'm hoping that this succeeds and draws more people back towards the offline modes.
    I love that they are trying to add more fun back into the game and between this mode and Moments, I think they've added a lot of additional value for offline gamers this year.

    You make some good points. I’ll definitely give it a thorough look. Never know it might be fun.
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    Jeffrey Smith
    It’s just the Moments mode in a season mode.
    I would assume their data shows a lot of franchise players start but never finish a season so they probably think this will help.
    I’ll stick with franchise mode though.
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    How would they know when franchise is offline only?
    BigOscar
    Yeah, I'm with you there, never cared for critical situations. I just don't get the drama if I didn't get into that situation. Bases loaded, down by 3, 2 outs in the 9th is only exciting to me if I've built up that situation, I've worked the bases full, I've gotten myself into a huge situation. If you just plonk me down and say "this is a big moment we've stuck you in", it does nothing for me, there is no build up of excitement and suspense

    Critical situations was for a small group of people who sim the game but want to play for a couple minutes per game. With only a very limited amount of developer time assigned to franchise they could do a much better job of determining what to spend developer time on.
    tessl
    How would they know when franchise is offline only?

    There is no major mode that doesn't at least phone home at the beginning and end of the sessions. The game tracks how much time is spent in each mode. The rewarding of any stubs, xp or cards is handled online as to prevent exploits. Franchise guys may not pay much attention to that stuff but if your PS4 is connected to the internet then it is happening.
    Well this definitely is not for me. Did users ask for quicker way to get through games and seasons? I'm not sure why they keep going this route. I still haven't made up my mind if I will buy it this year. I probably won't ever touch this mode, however, I would the moments mode. I'm still holding out a sliver of hope that Franchise has something new that will change my mind.
    Karle
    So were given two new modes, Moments and March to October which basically involve playing mostly only in critical situations. However, for me I prefer playing full games rather than bits and pieces.
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    Well you like the actual game of baseball, so bad news... nothing has been done for people like you in quite a few years to keep you firing up the game again and again.
    You know, I can’t help but see this stupid commercial in my head with every “new” announcement they make regarding this game anymore. This commercial was truly a telling turning point in the series. Nothing has been the same since they decided to market in this direction as it’s clear they decided that actual baseball and its 9 inning affairs was not worth selling.
    I think everyone is being way too pessimistic. I think it’s a very good idea of a mode. Yes, season mode was for some, but also can’t we see how it was a redundant feature considering that it was the exact same as franchise mode but just for one season? If you want season mode so bad, play franchise mode for one season! It would be nice if they added it as a setting in franchise mode, but again not a huge deal IMO.
    This mode looks pretty cool. It may not be for the hardcore franchise players like me, but for the casual fan it looks pretty cool! I might even play it a few times. Who knows.
    Now, I do think the resources spent on this mode would have been better spent on franchise, but again, franchise mads is already a really good mode guys. There are issues, but we play it for a reason.
    I know this is sort of the glass half full look at it, and the criticisms are valid, but let’s try and be grateful at what they are giving us unless you truly do not plan to purchase the game
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    Daonlyjmo7
    I think everyone is being way too pessimistic. I think it’s a very good idea of a mode. Yes, season mode was for some, but also can’t we see how it was a redundant feature considering that it was the exact same as franchise mode but just for one season? If you want season mode so bad, play franchise mode for one season! It would be nice if they added it as a setting in franchise mode, but again not a huge deal IMO.
    This mode looks pretty cool. It may not be for the hardcore franchise players like me, but for the casual fan it looks pretty cool! I might even play it a few times. Who knows.
    Now, I do think the resources spent on this mode would have been better spent on franchise, but again, franchise mads is already a really good mode guys. There are issues, but we play it for a reason.
    I know this is sort of the glass half full look at it, and the criticisms are valid, but let’s try and be grateful at what they are giving us unless you truly do not plan to purchase the game
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    I guess you never understood why people played season mode.
    Dolenz
    Love the new features or hate them you have to give SDS credit for not just releasing the same game every year with a roster update.

    But if you hate the new additions and don’t ever have a desire to play those modes then aren’t you essentially getting the same game every year with a roster update? Because your favorite mode has been neglected or untouched, or even worse hidden until near release with a tease of something new only to discover that it was just different menus. That doesn’t make those people feel any good.
    And furthermore, they’ve taken key components out of the franchise. So to the people who used to solely play those modes they might as well cancel the game completely because they won’t be buying or playing anytime soon.
    I know that I personally feel as though I’ve been playing the same franchise mode for about 6 years or so now.
    And these new modes and situations feel so forced to me. Like clearly there are algorithms at work that necessitate certain situations. There is no way to organically randomize things in a video game that gives you outcomes of having to “jump in” during certain situations. It’s prefabricated. And that feels disingenuous to me. Like using quick counts or RTTS and not playing every pitch. You mean to tell me an at bat is predetermined to be hit towards my position but things aren’t predecided in this game. Doesn’t help their logic for being in control. Sure, some people are fine with it or love it, but for me to never see an 0-0 count or to sim through a game quickly and to believe that “oh look, a key at bat has organically arisen late in this matchup”, my mind doesn’t buy that.
    I want them to work on 162 games, plus spring training, plus postseason and it’s rosters, all while playing 9+ innings every game (unless a rainout occurs) because why? Because that’s freaking baseball! That’s what I’ve bought into and that’s what I want still!
    bigwill33
    Well you like the actual game of baseball, so bad news... nothing has been done for people like you in quite a few years to keep you firing up the game again and again.

    forme95
    Casual gamer mode

    moTIGS
    I might think this was a cool addition if I were a junior high kid or younger who didn't have the attention span for an in-depth franchise mode. I don't mean that to sound insulting. Kids play games, too, and I'll never fault developers for making stuff targeted at them.
    I don't know what other audience this would appeal to, though. You could already replicate a lot of what this seems to offer in a regular franchise mode if you choose to sim.

    And away we go. If you like this mode, even as a change of pace you
  2. Don't like the actual game of baseball
  3. A Casual Gamer
  4. A kid
  5. Lack an attention span

    It is such a shame that people can't criticize something that they do not like without intentionally or unintentionally insulting those that may enjoy it.
  6. tessl
    How would they know when franchise is offline only?

    Doesn't matter. If your PS4 is connected to the internet they get the data from that (it connects to their servers).
    Dolenz
    And away we go. If you like this mode, even as a change of pace you
  7. Don't like the actual game of baseball
  8. A Casual Gamer
  9. A kid
  10. Lack an attention span

    It is such a shame that people can't criticize something that they do not like without intentionally or unintentionally insulting those that may enjoy it.

  11. This is a very good point. I watched the videos, read the comments and I believe this mode will be perfect for my 14 year old brother. Not for me but I’m happy we’ll be able to play The Show together and talk about it more because of a mode like this.
    Dolenz
    Love the new features or hate them you have to give SDS credit for not just releasing the same game every year with a roster update.

    I Do?
    In other news, RBI Baseball releases tomorrow...
    Impetuous65
    TELEMETRY DATA, is killing this game. SDS absolute reliance on this data has made for some dumb decisions.

    I completely agree. The core user base they built for almost 10 years they've just about driven away. OSFM has a new name not associated with OS anymore (granted that's not b/c of SDS but it's just another nail in the coffin to me), franchise is just about obsolete and micro-transactions will pretty much drive everything with every mode in The Show.
    It's sad IMO as NBA 2K has really helped boost the popularity of basketball. Madden did for years for the NFL. The Show stole baseball video gaming away from 2K with its polish and features...and with the PS4, could've really redefined how sports rosters and a franchise could sell a game because their game on PS3 was the best for the platform. I really feel like it started at the transition to the PS4...outside of Y2Y saves and the batting stance creator, everything has been for RTTS, conquest and DD. I even would've taken improved graphics but that's never happened either (player models, COUNTLESS requests for jersey updates, Blzr has posted many times of the watered down grass/sky). I now look at MLB Show now with both nostalgia and disappointment.
    Such a shame. Perhaps I need to look into OOTP.
    Karle
    I also expect in March to October you will have no opportunity to edit the team rosters as the categories and rewards are based on the capabilities of the current rosters.
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    Or hopefully we can and categories/rewards are adjusted based on roster changes.
    Positive: story lines for every team with videos. On the field reporter telling the story of the given teams season. This is cool.
    Negative: would have been better had they added these assets into franchise
    Positives: this stream surprisingly was more exciting to me then the "moments". This is the kind of story mode I was hoping moments would have been, complete with cut scene videos.
    Negatives: nobody asked for this, and I can't help but feel like I am partly responsible. Since SDS is relying more and more heavily on telemetry data. I am a heavy simmer in franchise. I like to only play important games or against division rivals. I try and play at least one franchise with every team (minimum) five years to see if I can turn any team into a contender making realistic moves. Maybe I contributed to some weird algorithym that told them people wanted this.
    Positives: since franchise is a billet point for the march to October stream. Maybe these assets were added into franchise and MTO is actually just a streamlined version of this years franchise. I am cautiously optimistic that this is the case
    Negative: a lot of people were looking forward to this week and if none of this stuff was added into franchise, I know a lot of people are going to be up in arms this week.
    Positive: I have no real interest in moments or DD and I cannot see myself starting my franchise until "OSFM" comes out. So I may actually play this mode exclusively until they are released. To see how each teams story lines play out and see if there is a good variety or if it gets repetive (which I am 99% sure there will not be). Overall it's pretty hard to be optimistic about the direction this series is headed, but I am at least trying
    Edit: sorry for all the spellings errors. This websites auto correct is brutal with iPhone.
    Dolenz
    And away we go. If you like this mode, even as a change of pace you
  12. Don't like the actual game of baseball
  13. A Casual Gamer
  14. A kid
  15. Lack an attention span

    It is such a shame that people can't criticize something that they do not like without intentionally or unintentionally insulting those that may enjoy it.

  16. I don't want this to come off as confrontational Dolenz. But you are constantly pointing out the fact that you can't stand the guys who bash DD and think it's ruining the series, but then you turn around and bash the people that may get enjoyment out of this mode. It's a little one sided.
    And yes I also think this mode was uneccesary and more geared towards kids. But still more exciting then moments for me. Only because I am hoping they maybe somehow added some of these assets to franchise. But I doubt it.
    dalger21

    I think in the OSFM 2018 thread showtyme said they haven't quite decided on a name yet. And this year ythey wont be posting about the release on this forum. They will most likely do it through ridin's twitter.
    Therebelyell626
    I don't want this to come off as confrontational Dolenz. But you are constantly pointing out the fact that you can't stand the guys who bash DD and think it's ruining the series, but then you turn around and bash the people that may get enjoyment out of this mode. It's a little one sided.
    And yes I also think this mode was uneccesary and more geared towards kids. But still more exciting then moments for me. Only because I am hoping they maybe somehow added some of these assets to franchise. But I doubt it.

    Bash DD all you want. I just feel it can be done without also insulting those who enjoy it. And, as far as I know, I have never bashed or insulted anyone for simply enjoying one mode more than any other.
    I honestly wish everyone could get everything they wanted out of the game.
    I just don't understand wtf SDS is doing anymore.
    A few years back, their badge was 'adding new features, without removing old ones'.
    Best as I can tell, they're now removing everything actual baseball fans want, and adding a bunch of superfluous crap to cater to the short-attention-span/ADD crowd, all the while funneling the entire user base in line to play DD.
    It's goddamned infuriating.
    I used to hold SDS in such high regard. Over the last 3 years, I've grown to actually despise them.
    Dolenz
    And away we go. If you like this mode, even as a change of pace you
  17. Don't like the actual game of baseball
  18. A Casual Gamer
  19. A kid
  20. Lack an attention span

    It is such a shame that people can't criticize something that they do not like without intentionally or unintentionally insulting those that may enjoy it.

  21. Who is being insulted? Geez, take a breath.
    Speedy
    I completely agree. The core user base they built for almost 10 years they've just about driven away. OSFM has a new name not associated with OS anymore (granted that's not b/c of SDS but it's just another nail in the coffin to me), franchise is just about obsolete and micro-transactions will pretty much drive everything with every mode in The Show.

    This I disagree with.
    The core user base they built for was fans of baseball who were looking for the best possible simulation of that sport, and SDS delivered, and continues to deliver on that front, in terms of gameplay.
    On the field, the Show is easily the best playing baseball game and it continues to get better. They aren't neglecting that aspect, as they continue to deliver an extremely sim game on the field.
    As for franchise, while we all agree there is so much more they could do (SDS agrees as well) they continue to make changes for the hardcore franchise fan. A new budget system, though cumbersome, is better and more realistic, than what they had before. They've tuned retirement logic, roster building logic for the CPU, and they continue to tune call ups/send downs, free agent and trade logic. It's not as if the mode goes completely untouched, and is exactly the same year after year. No, the new additions aren't back of the box features, but they are core improvements that help improve the quality of life of the mode, especially for those of us that utilize carryover saves.
    Guessing we'll have to wait until Thursday to find out if sideline reporter is in Franchise, I really hope she was added!
    Which leads me to another thing, I know on Thursday they only have that one thing about Franchise... But after the March to October stuff, wouldn't it be all Franchise talk? Meaning when they talk about presentation/commentary improvements and such.
    countryboy

    On the field, the Show is easily the best playing baseball game and it continues to get better. They aren't neglecting that aspect, as they continue to deliver an extremely sim game on the field.

    Sure. But even the gameplay changes they are implementing are geared towards h2h and DD. I am reminded of this everytime I try and lay down a sacrifice bunt and it comes off of the bat with the velocity of an infield single. I wouldn't necessarily call this a replication of what we see on the field in real life.
    JoshC1977
    Well, this is different....I love the idea of a branching storyline concept - something all franchise modes out there really suck at is story-telling. Plus, full franchise modes can be quite daunting for a lot of people due to their sheer depth (which is likely why they are failing to gain traction with newer players - they are just way too bogged-down). This might be a fun stepping-stone for a lot of folks and may allow for a re-growth of the audience for the franchise mode down the road.
    I have a hunch though that this mode is going to be a bit TOO abbreviated for my personal tastes, but I am definitely going to try it out and see if I enjoy it or not. If SDS spent time putting this together, then it would be silly not to take advantage of it. One idea that intrigues me, IF the mode allows for the use to load a custom roster, is running a historical roster through the mode (I just don't have the time to run multiple franchises and play-out 162 games in each one).
    I really give SDS credit for trying to do something different here and not just re-hashing the old season mode as something "new" (which is the type of onerous thing EA would do). I'm curious to see the reactions from the masses on Thursday's stream and whether or not it resonates with them. Of course, the more stodgy/stubborn "I only play franchise" types will dismiss it out-of-hand like they usually do. But the important "tell" is how the "general audience" reacts - I'm hoping that this succeeds and draws more people back towards the offline modes.
    I love that they are trying to add more fun back into the game and between this mode and Moments, I think they've added a lot of additional value for offline gamers this year.

    That is hopeful thinking. If we are allowed to import custom rosters for this mode it hopefully disables the reward system for DD but still allows you to play the mode itself.
    But even if it does not allow "classic" rosters to be used I am still going to give this mode a full chance before I pass judgment.
    As for fans of season mode being disappointed, a simple solution to me is if SDS can simply add the ability to it's existing franchise mode to choose the length of season (in terms of how many games you want to play) and you simply set everything to auto (so you don't have to deal with the minor leagues, draft, rule 5 etc etc etc) you have season mode.
    The only real loss for me personally with season mode was a few classic rosters I had been carrying. However I was able to recover almost all of them on the 16 server and carry them forward to 18 with franchise mode.
    So again the only real thing left....in terms of the previous "season mode" is length of season.
    Add that to franchise mode and a ton of "season mode" players can be happy again.
    I don't like that they removed the feature....and I have stated it many times. It was not handled well. Because a lot of folks had carry over saves in season mode. And those are lost now.
    Again this mode to me looks really interesting and I have a feeling I am going to enjoy the heck out of playing different scenarios and trying to get middle of the road teams to the post season.
    The presentation aspect of it looks pretty freaking cool. And hopefully those assets are also in our traditional franchise mode for us to enjoy.
    I am always a glass half full guy with SDS. This is nice attempt to add a couple of enjoyable offline modes for the offline players. Who says they don't try to innovate the game? What's wrong with adding modes like these to draw in new and younger fans?
    The "get of my lawn" shtick is getting freaking old. I can see a bunch of my boys whom I coach (14 and 15 year olds) jamming March to October a lot.
    GOOD!!!!! We need more baseball fans folks.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I’m literally at the point if rotating schedules are in, I’ll be satisfied. This kills me wanting to play more than one season.
    Yeah. As Armor and Sword says, TheShow 18 plays such a great game for me. I wanna purchase the new game but if nothing new really intrigues me I might just play another franchise season on 18 then jump to 19 when it's been patched a few times.
    I'm stuck in off-season 1 waiting for some good information on Franchise.
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    Councilmann_Jamm
    Yeah. As Armor and Sword says, TheShow 18 plays such a great game for me. I wanna purchase the new game but if nothing new really intrigues me I might just play another franchise season on 18 then jump to 19 when it's been patched a few times.
    I'm stuck in off-season 1 waiting for some good information on Franchise.
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    Very viable option. 18 is fantastic.
    You will get some very honest and through impressions from me when the game drops. I am on vacation that week too. So plenty of streams and gameplay discussion.
    To me, this looks like critical situations turned into a game mode.
    Definitely not for me but could be a cool game mode. I like getting immersed in my baseball video game and this would do the opposite.
    I just hope they haven't let us down in franchise, we'll see on Thursday.
    🤞
    P.S. I'm still very excited about the defensive improvements, contact hitters being useful again and RTTS as I'm going to try my hand at being a SP (which I've overlooked for years)
    None the less I can't wait to get an updated version of The Show and start my franchise (from 17, as I skipped 18)
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    No thanks. Hate the gimmick on how one game makes you ice cold or fiery hot. I'm content on sticking with '18 this year. So tired of the minimal effort.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I’m literally at the point if rotating schedules are in, I’ll be satisfied. This kills me wanting to play more than one season.

    They said they wanted to get it in last year so let's hope they did this year. On the other hand they put a lot of effort into this game mode so I honestly only expect minimal changes to franchise, if any.
    JayD
    They said they wanted to get it in last year so let's hope they did this year. On the other hand they put a lot of effort into this game mode so I honestly only expect minimal changes to franchise, if any.

    If anything, they'll strip a couple features from Franchise like they did some fan favorite modes last year.
    Therebelyell626
    Sure. But even the gameplay changes they are implementing are geared towards h2h and DD. I am reminded of this everytime I try and lay down a sacrifice bunt and it comes off of the bat with the velocity of an infield single. I wouldn't necessarily call this a replication of what we see on the field in real life.

    And they have corrected bunting for this year.
    And I didn't realize that realistic ball physics, playing balls of the wall, tuning balls bouncing over wall for ground rule doubles, better defensive play/animations, and such were all geared towards the h2h and DD crowd.
    Remember...any exploit that you can find in a h2h game, most likely can be used to exploit the CPU as well.
    So yeah..maybe they are finding these things by watching h2h streams or feedback from h2h, but the fixing of these exploits are good for the offline single player experience as well.
    countryboy
    And they have corrected bunting for this year.
    And I didn't realize that realistic ball physics, playing balls of the wall, tuning balls bouncing over wall for ground rule doubles, better defensive play/animations, and such were all geared towards the h2h and DD crowd.
    Remember...any exploit that you can find in a h2h game, most likely can be used to exploit the CPU as well.
    So yeah..maybe they are finding these things by watching h2h streams or feedback from h2h, but the fixing of these exploits are good for the offline single player experience as well.

    Actually, alot of that is geared towards DD as well. They have been trying to master the "playing out of position" penalty for years. Having fielders be worse in secondary positions and being able to see that on a lineup card for DD. People have been exploiting that and finding ways in DD for awhile.
    As the previous guy said they ruined bunting for the franchise player. That was done for the DD/H2H crowd. I am not saying all gameplay related issues are JUST for that. But its becoming time that people need to start realzing that the gameplay is shifting towards DD/H2H because thats what makes a ton of money. It is sad.
    I'm not legitimately shocked in life now, but this legitimately shocked me. Sorry for all the guys who loved season mode and this is what you get. I don't even know what else to say. A lot of people were hyped for this mode, but usually when you hype something up, it's usually ends up a disappointment. I couldn't watch more than 10 seconds of this video without clicking X. Incredible.
    MLBfanatic97
    the twitch chat on Thursday is gonna be saltier than the dead sea oh buddy

    Isn't it always salty? Seems like it has been that way for years. This year I have been watching the streams on my PS4 with chat hidden. I only open it up long enough to enter that weeks keyword.
    eric7064
    Actually, alot of that is geared towards DD as well. They have been trying to master the "playing out of position" penalty for years. Having fielders be worse in secondary positions and being able to see that on a lineup card for DD. People have been exploiting that and finding ways in DD for awhile.
    As the previous guy said they ruined bunting for the franchise player. That was done for the DD/H2H crowd. I am not saying all gameplay related issues are JUST for that. But its becoming time that people need to start realzing that the gameplay is shifting towards DD/H2H because thats what makes a ton of money. It is sad.

    But the point remains that even if those improvements/fixes are geared towards the DD/h2h crowd, they benefit the single player experience as well.
    Bunting was too easy in '16 as everyone was able to bunt without penalty, in '17 they made the change and went too far the other way. Stayed that way for '18, but for '19 they have worked to find a middle ground.
    I understand the concern among you hardcore franchise guys, but for a guy like me who just doesn't have the time to commit to a full in depth franchise simulation, this looks great. It's basically what I would do when I would play season mode a few years back, play only 1 out of every 5 or so games and only do minor GM stuff like some trades and call ups. I never got too into the micromanaging and scouting and financial stuff, so it really feels like this is a mode made for me. I just really hope it goes for multiple seasons and its not just a single season.
    I do really feel for you Franchise guys though. Seems like they just have no interest in improving it.
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    MJDrocks
    If anything, they'll strip a couple features from Franchise like they did some fan favorite modes last year.

    Not happening.
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    countryboy
    But the point remains that even if those improvements/fixes are geared towards the DD/h2h crowd, they benefit the single player experience as well.
    Bunting was too easy in '16 as everyone was able to bunt without penalty, in '17 they made the change and went too far the other way. Stayed that way for '18, but for '19 they have worked to find a middle ground.

    But they dont always benefit the offline player. Thats the point many are getting at. The core game is changing and its unfortunately impacting the offline crowd. I had to constantly battle the sliders last year because of the changes for online.
    countryboy
    But the point remains that even if those improvements/fixes are geared towards the DD/h2h crowd, they benefit the single player experience as well.
    Bunting was too easy in '16 as everyone was able to bunt without penalty, in '17 they made the change and went too far the other way. Stayed that way for '18, but for '19 they have worked to find a middle ground.

    But a lot of us "offline franchise" guys don't actively try and screw the CPU. I think if they had made this a fix strictly for online H2H games and not carry over to offline gameplay it would have been fine.
    My point wasn't to say that gameplay in this series is bad. To the contrary it's quite good. The position they have been taking the last few years on "fixes" is just a tad scary
    Armor and Sword
    Not happening.
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    While I agree that wont happen, it has happened before when they gutted franchise mode and the features have yet to return.
    Armor and Sword
    Not happening.
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    A lot of people said the same thing about season mode. Yet here we are. But like someone said in an earlier post, if they just added the ability to change the amount of games in franchise mode this situation could be rectified
    eric7064
    But they dont always benefit the offline player. Thats the point many are getting at. The core game is changing and its unfortunately impacting the offline crowd. I had to constantly battle the sliders last year because of the changes for online.

    Aside from upping the pitch speed slider, I have played the game at default and the game has provided a very balanced simulation for me.
    Therebelyell626
    But a lot of us "offline franchise" guys don't actively try and screw the CPU. I think if they had made this a fix strictly for online H2H games and not carry over to offline gameplay it would have been fine.
    My point wasn't to say that gameplay in this series is bad. To the contrary it's quite good. The position they have been taking the last few years on "fixes" is just a tad scary

    Not saying anyone is trying to screw the CPU, but aside from the bunting issue, what changes for h2h/DD games did they make that is messing up the gameplay for the offline user?
    countryboy
    Aside from upping the pitch speed slider, I have played the game at default and the game has provided a very balanced simulation for me.
    Not saying anyone is trying to screw the CPU, but aside from the bunting issue, what changes for h2h/DD games did they make that is messing up the gameplay for the offline user?

    Your right country boy, it's not many. But the stolen base situation has me a little worried this year. I get why it's important for guys to not be able to retreat back without penalty to counter pitch out. But I am also concerned it may have other adverse effects.
    I also am a tad worried about the pitch speed increases for higher difficulties. As I get older I have had to slowly decrease the pitch speed. My skills are a little to good for pro but not quite good enough for all star plus, so I have been using dynamic difficulty. I am hoping this does not effect the pitch speed slider and that I can still lower it to manageable level on the higher difficulties
    countryboy

    Not saying anyone is trying to screw the CPU, but aside from the bunting issue, what changes for h2h/DD games did they make that is messing up the gameplay for the offline user?

    I think the point is the bunting issue should never have happened for offline gameplay. That was a BIG issue. Like taking away the extra point, or field goal in football, and it wasn't "fixable". It was done purposely. All the updates to other modes and this one stuck out like a sore thumb. They didn't know? I think they did.
    Therebelyell626
    Your right country boy, it's not many. But the stolen base situation has me a little worried this year. I get why it's important for guys to not be able to retreat back without penalty to counter pitch out. But I am also concerned it may have other adverse effects.
    I also am a tad worried about the pitch speed increases for higher difficulties. As I get older I have had to slowly decrease the pitch speed. My skills are a little to good for pro but not quite good enough for all star plus, so I have been using dynamic difficulty. I am hoping this does not effect the pitch speed slider and that I can still lower it to manageable level on the higher difficulties

    Yeah I'm not keen on the retreating on stolen bases as it has been explained. Hopefully it won't be as impactful as it seems to be via discussion.
    Yeah...I actually max out pitch speeds because I thought they were too slow/floaty. But hopefully the increase is able to be negated by the pitch speed slider for those who need it.
    Guess we'll find out on the 26th. :)
    KnightTemplar
    I think the point is the bunting issue should never have happened for offline gameplay. That was a BIG issue. Like taking away the extra point, or field goal in football, and it wasn't "fixable". It was done purposely. All the updates to other modes and this one stuck out like a sore thumb. They didn't know? I think they did.

    Agreed...and they did know. Why they didn't try to balance it last year as they have this year, we don't know.
    But while that was an error, there hasn't been any other changes to this point, that I'm aware of, that have had a negative impact on offline play.
    Random thoughts:
    - In a vacuum, this isn't a bad idea. But nothing exists in a vacuum. If a beefed-up franchise mode and strong season mode existed, this would be a welcome addition. Instead, we get this to go with the pointless Retro mode while franchise mode is more stale than month-old bread and season mode is MIA.
    - This mode misses a fundamental truth about baseball: momentum is the next day's starting pitcher. What you do on Monday doesn't have much impact on what happens Tuesday.
    - Considering how messed up franchise mode is under the hood, there's no reason to think this will reflect reality in any way. There's no way the execution will be satisfactory.
    - Baseball is a game for people with an attention span. It builds to a crescendo, whether it's an at-bat, inning, game, or season. The changes SDS has made in the last couple years do not reflect that.
    Blech. Just blech.
    MJDrocks
    No thanks. Hate the gimmick on how one game makes you ice cold or fiery hot. I'm content on sticking with '18 this year. So tired of the minimal effort.

    That’s my position, 18 plays so well on the field I literally see no reason to buy 19 unless there’s a bunch of franchise features waiting to be announced and I just don’t see that happening.
    As the previous post says, if we were getting a ton of new franchise mode features, this new mode would be a great addition but these things are coming alongside the addition of very few, serious and new features to franchise. In fact, all these new shiny menus, stat screens and slick presentation elements stand in stark contrast to what will be a franchise mode that looks and plays exactly as before.
    I would have loved this had they simply incorporated it into Franchise mode. It looks really interesting, but would have really loved it if they made it so you could span multiple seasons and truly build from "moments" that make rebuilding teams special (say, a top-50 rookie's first game, or a first start for a pitcher, etc.) to the moments that make contenders...contenders.
    I don't see the incentive to play if you are a fan of a rebuilding team (unless you just really want DD rewards), but this would be great in Franchise mode because it makes a season feel like a story rather than a collection of games. That's what people here have been asking for mostly when it comes to franchise mode and IMO this would have fit in nicely with their "phases" "feature" last year. In the offseason to "moments" could be prompts from the owner saying, "We need a new LF, closer and SP. I'd also like us to acquire two new B-level prospects through trades" or something.
    One step forward, but a total missed opportunity IMO. OOTP scratches that long-term franchise itch for me but this would be a great way for me to play franchise mode considering I don't have time to play every game.
    BJSands

    - This mode misses a fundamental truth about baseball: momentum is the next day's starting pitcher. What you do on Monday doesn't have much impact on what happens Tuesday.

    This is one of the least accurate things about baseball I've ever heard.
    And as part of the mode itself, they got the momentum thing from MVP Baseball, I like that addition.
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    underdog13
    This is one of the least accurate things about baseball I've ever heard.
    And as part of the mode itself, they got the momentum thing from MVP Baseball, I like that addition.
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    That is simply incorrect. Unless there are major injuries or your bullpen is drained or something weird happens, there really isn't much of an effect.
    BJSands
    That is simply incorrect. Unless there are major injuries or your bullpen is drained or something weird happens, there really isn't much of an effect.
    Batters getting hot, team morale up. Teams go on runs/slumps all the time.
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    underdog13
    Batters getting hot, team morale up. Teams go on runs/slumps all the time.
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    Teams getting hot beyond their ability is a statistical fluke. But whatever, let's leave this thread to discussion of the game. Hahaha.
    Therebelyell626
    A lot of people said the same thing about season mode. Yet here we are. But like someone said in an earlier post, if they just added the ability to change the amount of games in franchise mode this situation could be rectified
    - That was me who suggested that SDS add the ability to choose the length of season when you start a new franchise mode. That would make a lot of former season mode players very very happy.
    eric7064
    While I agree that wont happen, it has happened before when they gutted franchise mode and the features have yet to return.
    - Say what? They took out the half baked owner mode....and newspapers (replace newspaper with a radio show which is much better) you are using that word "gutted" quite loosely. They have added incremental additions to the mode since coming to PS4 as well on late in the PS3 cycle (Player quirks, Player Morale, expanded stats, more saber-metric stats like WAR, year to year saves was a massive feature, better player editing, real equipment, re-tuned retirement logic, re-tuned AI for team building) they have hardly gutted franchise mode. Also people don't want to lump in presentation....but that is a huge part of franchise mode improvement for me.
    Sounds of The Show
    3 different themes and the ability to edit all three with SOTS
    Dynamic story lines and yes I play all 162 and heard dynamic story lines throughout my franchise. If you don't play a ton of games you will never see, feel and experience the little things.
    There is still plenty of work to be done...make no mistake. But let's not sit here and say they gutted franchise mode. Simply not true.
    I don't like this new game mode. It seems pointless to me. I hope they did not waste their time on this mode at the cost of franchise improvements. That would infuriate me.
    I normally pre-order the game but this year I am waiting until after the franchise stream. If franchise hasn't been improved at all I likely will not pre-order and will wait for a price drop before purchasing. Franchise needs to be improved for me to pay full game value.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I’m literally at the point if rotating schedules are in, I’ll be satisfied. This kills me wanting to play more than one season.

    Armor and Sword
    Say what? They took out the half baked owner mode....and newspapers (replace newspaper with a radio show which is much better) you are using that word "gutted" quite loosely.

    There was an owner mode? And apparently it sucked?
    I started here with 14, so I must have missed it, but if it wasn't very good, perhaps it's for the best that they took it out.
    I do hope it one day returns, though. A lot of the problems with the worst franchises are directly the fault of the owners. I hope I can one day control a team without fear of getting fired for missing the playoffs one or two years because an elite team was in our division.
    Anyway, if these new additions are just in Road To October, then yeah, this video was a waste to me. Kids might like it, but I'm not touching it.
    Trackball
    There was an owner mode? And apparently it sucked?
    I started here with 14, so I must have missed it, but if it wasn't very good, perhaps it's for the best that they took it out.
    I do hope it one day returns, though. A lot of the problems with the worst franchises are directly the fault of the owners. I hope I can one day control a team without fear of getting fired for missing the playoffs one or two years because an elite team was in our division.
    Anyway, if these new additions are just in Road To October, then yeah, this video was a waste to me. Kids might like it, but I'm not touching it.

    All it entailed was setting some prices and promotional days.
    What they did implement for those that play single team control is GM mode and the chance you can be fired for poor performance.
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    Im actually looking forward to trying this mode out. I didnt think it was as bad as some people were saying in this post. Looked pretty good to me.
    Sad. Every year this game moves further and further away from what made it the best sports game on the market at one point. This idea that everyone has ADD and wants to breeze through games/seasons as quickly as possible is puzzling. This mode is pure silliness to me and I will not even touch it.
    I'm really looking forward to the stream this week as I am hoping and praying that they have made the significate updates to Franchise mode that are severely needed. If not, I may be pushed towards continuing my RTTS career and pretty much ignoring Franchise mode again due to its staleness. If it happens again this year, I will just stick with '19 going forward and stop making this a yearly purchase if all the updates are going into DD and adding modes that are useless to me.
    Yea that was the lamest, most disappointing video . Looks gimmicky and like something I'll never even check out.
    I haven't seen much of anything to justify a 60 dollar purchase.
    New legends and the fielding and pitching upgrades are the only thing that has interested me so far.
    Starting to think Diamond Dynasty is ruining this series.
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    Is there anyway you think in RTTS or franchise we could just have the ability to block trades? For me taking over 30 teams is just so much, it would be just nice to block the trades that don’t make sense, hope something they implement!
    SoullessGingerKC
    Is there anyway you think in RTTS or franchise we could just have the ability to block trades? For me taking over 30 teams is just so much, it would be just nice to block the trades that don’t make sense, hope something they implement!

    You can't even do this in 30 team control anymore. You used to be able to check in pending transactions and look at pending trades and either delete them or reject them. Pretty sure you can't do that anymore all you can do is put on force trades at the beginning and reverse a dumb trade if it happens
    Looks like they still have the same single generic animation for walk offs and the same animation of a pitcher jumping into the catcher's arms that they use for the last out of a no-hitter/perfect game/Clinching Playoffs/Division/Wild Card Game/DS/CS/World Series that they've had since the mid 2000's. Who needs variety?
    But I bet they have 38 new bat flip animations where the player is riding his bat like a pony or doing the worm towards the plate because that's what we want
    Rob_NYY
    Sad. Every year this game moves further and further away from what made it the best sports game on the market at one point. This idea that everyone has ADD and wants to breeze through games/seasons as quickly as possible is puzzling.

    Maybe they are making it up as they go but I would bet that they have very good data on what modes are played the most and how each mode is utilized and how many games are played out in each mode. So it may be puzzling to you and me but only because we can't see the data
    At first thought, I was hoping this mode would have been like Madden's Play Now Live with real stats and up to date real life rosters. Then after playing a game or however many games you want to play, the option would be there to continue inside Franchise Mode just like in Madden.
    Then I saw the video and my thoughts are exactly what everyone else is saying, why wasn't any of what's in this mode added to Franchise Mode?
    Dolenz
    Maybe they are making it up as they go but I would bet that they have very good data on what modes are played the most and how each mode is utilized and how many games are played out in each mode. So it may be puzzling to you and me but only because we can't see the data

    Yes I imagine Franchise is getting played less and less. I'm sure players are sticking with Franchise saves for shorter and shorter times. That's what happens when you do next to nothing and leave a mode to get stale.
    So what's the solution, make Franchise better and more interesting? Nope, make shorter alternatives apparently.
    Lol I'm getting to the point where I want nothing to do with DD. Let me delete that thing in the menu. No more DD updates or rewards. I don't want anything to do with that trash.
    Everything in this game is centered around that ****ing mode. Play exhibition games or franchise games you accumulate new player cards and other rewards for DD.
    That's all this is now. Everything you literally do in this game is pushed toward you playing that mode.
    Am I exaggerating? Not really. Wouldn't surprise me if I change the sliders. That I'll get rewarded with a new trading card or useless park.
    This stuff is infuriating.
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    I think this mode looks like an interesting distraction from time to time. I'm absolutely a "franchise first" player, but I have always found the time to dabble in the RTTS mode. I liken this to the "arcade time trial" features you see in fighting games...the quick way to play the story mode.
    I can understand those who have concerns that franchise won't get a major face-lift, and I can see those concerns myself. That said there are interesting mechanics in here that could find it's way to franchise mode to add to quality of life to that, and I could see where trying to win a World Series in high difficulty with the Royals could be a fun trick to do in the confines of 2019, but I doubt I'd want to really play 162+ games with that team, either.
    I'll still probably get the game. I find the mode interesting. It's not a game seller, but I think I'd get more use, myself, from this than season mode (but can see where people would like to see an ability to lower your season time, too. I think that should absolutely return).
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    DamnYanks2
    Lol I'm getting to the point where I want nothing to do with DD. Let me delete that thing in the menu. No more DD updates or rewards. I don't want anything to do with that trash.
    Everything in this game is centered around that ****ing mode. Play exhibition games or franchise games you accumulate new player cards and other rewards for DD.
    That's all this is now. Everything you literally do in this game is pushed toward you playing that mode.
    Am I exaggerating? Not really. Wouldn't surprise me if I change the sliders. That I'll get rewarded with a new trading card or useless park.
    This stuff is infuriating.
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    ^You'll probably get some flack, but I totally see where you're coming from. I don't fully understand what Diamond Dynasty is tbh. I play exhibition games more than anything, and whenever I pitch a gem or do some hitting accomplishment, I unlock cards. I don't even look at them. I probably have a hell of a DD squad and don't even know it lol.
    bravo2208
    ^You'll probably get some flack, but I totally see where you're coming from. I don't fully understand what Diamond Dynasty is tbh. I play exhibition games more than anything, and whenever I pitch a gem or do some hitting accomplishment, I unlock cards. I don't even look at them. I probably have a hell of a DD squad and don't even know it lol.

    Yeah I play franchise and get stubs and cards. Now that my time is over with '18, I started buying packs with my stubs. I have a hell of a team...LOL. Too bad that doesn't carry over into '19...:lol:
    This would be more appealing if you were not forced into player lock or for just certain portions of a game. Give the option to play out the full games.
    Everything seems like a race to finish so quickly. The total opposite of what the sport actually is.
    nemesis04
    This would be more appealing if you were not forced into player lock or for just certain portions of a game. Give the option to play out the full games.
    Everything seems like a race to finish so quickly. The total opposite of what the sport actually is.

    It is weird to decide the key to a baseball game is playing less baseball. Very Rob Manfred-esque
    Dolenz
    Maybe they are making it up as they go but I would bet that they have very good data on what modes are played the most and how each mode is utilized and how many games are played out in each mode. So it may be puzzling to you and me but only because we can't see the data

    The problem with data driven games is "NO VISION". Annually released sports games will always have people tired of the franchise as a whole. If I limit my scope of the game based on usage data, I don't know if the game would be made. They are being hamstrung by data. Attention Deficit and Baseball don't mix, SDS really need an injection of "Joel Embid" TRUST THE PROCESS. Someone said earlier in this thread, how they are making a baseball game and then developing feature sets to get you to play less baseball. Can't make this up.
    countryboy
    Yeah I play franchise and get stubs and cards. Now that my time is over with '18, I started buying packs with my stubs. I have a hell of a team...LOL. Too bad that doesn't carry over into '19...:lol:
    ^Same here, man. IMO 18 was great and it's one of the few games I've played year round. I think I have around 25K stubs and a ton of cards just sitting there. Maybe this is the point in time I dreaded and I'm getting old. Falling out of touch. I just don't see what's so great about these card collecting modes. I'd rather collect cards in real life. I created a uniform and tinkered with it a little shortly after release. That just left me wanting an expansion option in Franchise mode lol. Maybe the time for us franchise gamers has passed, but I refuse to let go. :ooo:
    bravo2208
    ^You'll probably get some flack, but I totally see where you're coming from. I don't fully understand what Diamond Dynasty is tbh. I play exhibition games more than anything, and whenever I pitch a gem or do some hitting accomplishment, I unlock cards. I don't even look at them. I probably have a hell of a DD squad and don't even know it lol.
    Lol it took me a while to know what they were for too. I've played my fair shair of DD conquest games. And its a great mode. I get it.
    What pisses me off is that has become the focal point. I prefer other modes to DD. But they are moving away from what I like.
    Unfortunately RTTS has never really done much for me either.
    I'm fine with them having as many modes as they can fit in. That's great. But give equal attention to each mode. That's not happening anymore.
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    ChiTownKid
    I just don't understand wtf SDS is doing anymore.
    A few years back, their badge was 'adding new features, without removing old ones'.
    Best as I can tell, they're now removing everything actual baseball fans want, and adding a bunch of superfluous crap to cater to the short-attention-span/ADD crowd, all the while funneling the entire user base in line to play DD.
    It's goddamned infuriating.
    I used to hold SDS in such high regard. Over the last 3 years, I've grown to actually despise them.
    I flat out refuse to play a second of DD just for that fact. It's not offered as something "else" to do. It's the only thing they want us "to do" and its shoved down our throats.
    With another year of DD being force-fed, I'm sitting this year out, regardless of how great the game ends up being. Catering to the wrong player base and letting faulty telemetry drive your (stupid and cash grab) decisions is infuriating to the people who have made SDS the success it currently is, and supported it over the previous iterations.
    Money talks and I'll be making a statement with my wallet. I hope others do the same, no matter how much we are jonesing for baseball.
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    DD is clearly going to be the emphasis going forward.
    Franchise players feel neglected.
    How would people feel if DD were incorporated more heavily into franchise, and as a result the mode got attention from SDS? We'd get the updates and improvements we want, but at the "expense" of more DD integration.
    I recently used a bunch of stubs I'd otherwise never use to buy a few diamond sponsorships, which as far as I can tell is the only way to use DD-related stuff in franchise.
    If we could do things like give our drafted players different player quirks based on equipment earned in DD, for example, would people be OK with that?
    If upgrading your scouts or managers required DD cards, how upset would people be?
    In isolation, those things sound horrible to me (well, not the equipment for quirks thing). But if the trade-off is a deeper franchise mode in other areas, I'd take it in a heartbeat.
    DamnYanks2
    Lol it took me a while to know what they were for too. I've played my fair shair of DD conquest games. And its a great mode. I get it.
    What pisses me off is that has become the focal point. I prefer other modes to DD. But they are moving away from what I like.
    Unfortunately RTTS has never really done much for me either.
    I'm fine with them having as many modes as they can fit in. That's great. But give equal attention to each mode. That's not happening anymore.
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    I've been wrestling with the idea of buying OOTP instead of The Show 19, but RTTS kind of became a fallback for me. I haven't touched it since '15, but I like what I'm seeing so far. If they would just give us the ability to buy things, it would put it over the top. Why can't I upgrade my home? What's the point in making millions of dollars if I can't spend it on anything? In terms of franchise, contract extensions is nice and it's something I've wanted for years. Teams seem to be locking up young players for the long term more and more these days. I'm glad the game will now reflect that. I'm just hoping and praying contract extensions isn't the only new feature. There's plenty of "quality of life" things they can clean up. The little things matter to me. If they revised the budget system and/or improved Free Agency I'd be very happy. March to October looks like a whiff, but I'm still looking forward to the stream.
    I have played the Show since it started. I recently bought last years copy of OOTP. If you want strategy, stats and management, it blows the doors off the Show. It reminds me of Earl Weaver Baseball on steroids.
    But with that said, if you want to pitch, hit and throw stay with the Show or go to the Japanese game.(shame the commentary is in Japanese)
    The Show has no competition in their market and it shows. I have accepted the fact that 1. Franchise will never get the attention it deserves from SDS and 2. it still plays a pretty good game 'on the field' but is a new purchase worth it for a roster update if all you do is offline franchise?
    bravo2208
    I've been wrestling with the idea of buying OOTP instead of The Show 19, but RTTS kind of became a fallback for me. I haven't touched it since '15, but I like what I'm seeing so far. If they would just give us the ability to buy things, it would put it over the top. Why can't I upgrade my home? What's the point in making millions of dollars if I can't spend it on anything? In terms of franchise, contract extensions is nice and it's something I've wanted for years. Teams seem to be locking up young players for the long term more and more these days. I'm glad the game will now reflect that. I'm just hoping and praying contract extensions isn't the only new feature. There's plenty of "quality of life" things they can clean up. The little things matter to me. If they revised the budget system and/or improved Free Agency I'd be very happy. March to October looks like a whiff, but I'm still looking forward to the stream.

    Yeah wait until you sign a young guy in his early 20's to a "team friendly contract" when his overall is in the 70's. Only to watch him throw a fit for 5 of the 7 year contract because he improved and isn't getting the money to commemorate his improvement.
    Contract extensions will be a failure until they fix the morale system
    In DD I like the fact one can brand your own team and design the uniforms. It should not be that hard to carry tgat over to Franchise if SDS wanted to do it. However there seems to be no interest by SDS in doing so.
    I played almost exclusively DD this year, but I prefer playing full games. Not sure what I will do with MLB 19 the Show.
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    bravo2208
    ^Same here, man. IMO 18 was great and it's one of the few games I've played year round. I think I have around 25K stubs and a ton of cards just sitting there. Maybe this is the point in time I dreaded and I'm getting old. Falling out of touch. I just don't see what's so great about these card collecting modes. I'd rather collect cards in real life. I created a uniform and tinkered with it a little shortly after release. That just left me wanting an expansion option in Franchise mode lol. Maybe the time for us franchise gamers has passed, but I refuse to let go. :ooo:

    I'm in the same situation, I hardly ever touch DD and play a little RTS but mostly Franchise mode. I'm 45 years old and the older I get the more I see disappearing, always loved Season mode because it would allow me to enjoy multiple seasons with a team. I do play a lot of franchise but I take that a lot slower enjoying every single game and every single pitch, studying upcoming talent and planning ahead. Season mode was my goto mode for days that i wanted to get more games in. I had a carry over save for season mode for some years and always loved it. Hopefully they implemented an option in franchise mode. Just like i hope that we can finally edit coaches. Offcourse expansion and create a stadiun is also something i been hoping for.
    Therebelyell626
    Yeah wait until you sign a young guy in his early 20's to a "team friendly contract" when his overall is in the 70's. Only to watch him throw a fit for 5 of the 7 year contract because he improved and isn't getting the money to commemorate his improvement.
    Contract extensions will be a failure until they fix the morale system

    So don't sign a guy to a deal when you know he's going to progress beyond it?
    You're getting a good player below market value and expect it to have no negative consequences.
    Ideal would be that players just won't sign those deals. But if we know they will and also know they'll suffer low morale as a result, then just don't do it.
    This is some Franchise Lite garbage. Stop fighting the battle SDS, there are people that play Diamond Dynasty and there are people that play Franchise. Stop trying to merge the player bases. Ive never cared about Diamond Dynasty rewards, and I never will.
    They should have left season mode in, taken the resources they used for Retro ( possibly the worst IMO), the new moments, and this garbage and put it into franchise! I am a franchise, every pitch, every game player. SDS is making some really bad decisions here.
    I am in the minority here but to be honest this mode actually makes me more interested in getting this year's game.
    I haven't bought The Show since '16 and as much as some guys have the time or desire to play a full 162 I don't have either. Part of the reason I haven't bought it is because I prefer playing Franchise mode but it just takes me to long to finish a season. All I've read about Critical Moments that they introduced in 17 was that it was that you are always coming into games in the last inning or two and it the moments didn't vary enough so it didn't sway me.
    If they translate this directly into Franchise mode as well I think it is more than likely I get this game. Even if it's just this mode I might still give it a shot.
    One of the other big things is that I almost never control other teams. If you can finish off a season relatively quickly I might try it with other teams as well which might be fun.
    To be honest, I wish all the major sports titles had a mode like this. Madden does wth PTM but that season is so much shorter I don't really use it as much. I mean even when I do the start each guy in the rotation and sim to the next guy (1 out of every 5 games) I still have to play over 30 games. Even with Quick counts the amount of time I have to play video games just doesn't allow me to even get one season in. Again this is just my gaming experience.
    I get it that some of the people out here don't want it, won't use and feel like they keep drawing the short end of the stick. That feeling isn't great.
    At the end of the day I love the idea behind this mode. I've always tried to figure out ways to influence the season without stick skills being the only thing that matters. This seems like a perfect fit for me!
    CubFan23
    They should have left season mode in, taken the resources they used for Retro ( possibly the worst IMO), the new moments, and this garbage and put it into franchise! I am a franchise, every pitch, every game player. SDS is making some really bad decisions here.

    Unfortunately you are in the extreme minority in how you play the game and you aren't worth any more than the $60 so you lose. :)
    underdog13
    Looks like a good mode...just wish I could play everygame. I'd rather have a shorter season and play everygame then sim.

    Yeah I remember a game, maybe All Star Baseball back in the day offered the option to do different season lengths. I liked the 16 game season, or whatever the shortest was.
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    After reading most of the thread comments I do feel bad for those that have been affected by the removal of their favorite modes and replaced with new and different modes. Some were that were not asked for and some are intended for new audiences and players. To me it's not bad but something I would have not asked for but I might even try it once but having said that if they ever do this to RTTS I will be done buying any new versions of this game and stick to the best version of RTTS what ever year that might be.
    Told ya guys hate to say it.. dunno why people jumped so high thinking season mode was back was to much speculation
    but if I go on anymore the DD guys will say I am insulting them so I won't go on about that anymore.
    moTIGS
    So don't sign a guy to a deal when you know he's going to progress beyond it?
    You're getting a good player below market value and expect it to have no negative consequences.
    Ideal would be that players just won't sign those deals. But if we know they will and also know they'll suffer low morale as a result, then just don't do it.

    Yeah but that's not the way it works in real life. The whole point of buying out someone's arbitration and renewal years is that you give them a little bit of security in exchange for a discount on the money. Think scott kingery for the ohillies last year. They signed him to one of the bigger pre-renewal/arb contracts ever. It's a gamble for them as well as for kingery. If kingery becomes a perennial MVP candidate he is not going to underperform because he wasn't confident enough to bet on himself. That's stupid. Josh Donaldson has been under paid for years because he didn't make the bigs until he was 28 and he had some of his best years on arbitration and renewal deals.
    I hate to say it, but the more I think about it the more I might be likely to spend some time with this mode. Maybe. It would depend on a couple of factors.
    1. Can we use classic rosters?
    2. Is it multiple Seasons?
    3. How much control over the team do we really have?
    I usually start a bunch of Franchise's with teams I get mildly interested in over the year. Sometimes I just get an itch to play somebody different. This mode might allow me to scratch that itch with teams that I might be interested in messing around with but don't really want to break out the notebooks (I am old, I don't use spreadsheats) and start a full fledged franchise mode with. I don't really know yet, I guess I will see come Thursday with the stream. But I am not as dead set against it as I was this morning.
    Saw that they changed the ticker at the bottom of the screen.
    Also hope the dynamic commentary they are speaking of when they show Heidi makes it’s way into franchise
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    First, apologies for not reading through all the previous posts... but this is my first thought when I heard/saw this new feature:
    I can only get through a regular franchise season by implementing my own version of "gimmicks". I might either play the first game of a series and sim the other 2 or 3. Or - I will use Quick Play and wait until I have a runner in scoring position before I jump in. There are many other personal gimmicks to get me through a season... I even considered not allowing myself to take over a game if my team leads the division by more than 10 games (resulting in simming 3/4 of a season and jumping in to make trades, do call-ups or demotions...)
    So, I like the idea of Road to October, but it is a real miss to not allow a form of this as an OPTION for regular Franchise mode.
    What I'd like to know is how much of the postseason can you play? Did I miss that somewhere? Or will the premise of this new mode continue throughout the playoffs? Not getting to play a full World Series would be weird.
    I watched the video again and after listening to it a 3rd time, I’m thinking it’s just one season and one shot make the playoffs and win the World Series.
    The replay of it will be taking a different team to unlock their specific rewards.
    Also don’t see custom rosters being allowed either as this is a mode already laid out as to play a certain scenario given a choice or outcome that happens
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    countryboy
    I didn't even think of this, but if you can use custom rosters then I may actually play this mode.
    I've always wanted to play through a historical season, but never wanted to start a second franchise because of the time that is consumed by that mode.

    how would you be able to load a custom roster?? it would be locked in to who are underdogs who are contenders ect etc.
    "We want something new and different, because The Show is starting to feel the same!"
    *makes new season mode with a unique narrative drive and allowing people to play through a full season in chunks of time they may only have with so much gaming time, while still offering the usual suite of modes for those who don't like it*
    "NOT LIKE THAT!"
    Never change, Internet. If this the kind of response something new and interesting gets, then I don't blame Ramone & co. for tuning you all out and giving more to the DD players instead.
    Looks interesting! I think itll be fun to switch it up from my franchise team from time to time.
    There is still at least one feature to be revealed for franchise on Thursday. I am a franchise guy as well but I'm not disappointed in SDS. I played 400+ hours of 18 and will log as much if not more in 19.
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    countryboy
    I watched the video again and after listening to it a 3rd time, I’m thinking it’s just one season and one shot make the playoffs and win the World Series.
    The replay of it will be taking a different team to unlock their specific rewards.
    Also don’t see custom rosters being allowed either as this is a mode already laid out as to play a certain scenario given a choice or outcome that happens
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    Yup! I would doubt highly that this mode continues beyond a season, otherwise it WOULD be a new way to play Franchise. I will continue to play Franchise "my way" to expedite a season, but I see myself playing this mode in conjunction to the normal franchise mode (with a goal of collecting rewards in mind). Tomorrow's Twitch is highly anticipated.
    The more I think about the mode the more I feel like I’ll probably give it a shot. Especially if it goes multiple years(i doubt it). Really curious to see how much time they’re estimating this will take. Seems like they’re shooting for replayability and doing it with multiple teams so I’m thinking it can’t take too long to get though a whole season.
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    If you have the ability to continue your franchise into 2020, I think this is a very cool idea.
    If it just stops like a season mode, I don’t like the idea as much.
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    milkmanbonzai
    "We want something new and different, because The Show is starting to feel the same!"
    *makes new season mode with a unique narrative drive and allowing people to play through a full season in chunks of time they may only have with so much gaming time, while still offering the usual suite of modes for those who don't like it*
    "NOT LIKE THAT!"
    Never change, Internet. If this the kind of response something new and interesting gets, then I don't blame Ramone & co. for tuning you all out and giving more to the DD players instead.

    You left off the new and different items within FRANCHISE. The other asks have been to bring back season mode and offline franchise. Who asked for something new and different? Literally nobody that you think you are poking fun at.
    Armor and Sword

    The "get of my lawn" shtick is getting freaking old. I can see a bunch of my boys whom I coach (14 and 15 year olds) jamming March to October a lot.
    GOOD!!!!! We need more baseball fans folks.

    This sums up my feelings with some of these posters here recently. It's like they don't remember back when they were a kid/casual fan of baseball. Not everyone is going to be a simhead out of the womb. It's good to give those who may not be a huge baseball fan a mode that may appeal to them more. These old school mentalities is why a bunch of young kids call baseball "boring". Give the kids or new fans a chance to fall in love with the game at their pace rather than hating on anything than is for hyper fans of baseball.
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    Themayorofawsometown
    This sums up my feelings with some of these posters here recently. It's like they don't remember back when they were a kid/casual fan of baseball. Not everyone is going to be a simhead out of the womb. It's good to give those who may not be a huge baseball fan a mode that may appeal to them more. These old school mentalities is why a bunch of young kids call baseball "boring". Give the kids or new fans a chance to fall in love with the game at their pace rather than hating on anything than is for hyper fans of baseball.
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    The issue is not a mode implemented to get more people to play. The issue is that those who enter these threads with Franchise/Sim comments feel as though they are entering another year of being ignored.
    Retro mode this mode. crucial modes... think of all the time spent on recycled modes that will vanish and come back in 5 year cycles. and all the DD crap that makes the $$.
    imagine the time they could have used for franchise and making that mode bigger. instead we get these little casual fan modes.
    the gaming industry is in big trouble and the sporting one is in dire straits right now.
    While I'm not happy a full season mode is excluded, and I prefer seeing development time allocated to franchise, I might actually play this mode. I'm at the point where franchise/career modes never work for me. I can't dedicate the time it takes to have an enjoyable long term experience (eg, 30 team control) or play enough games to disappear into my own virtual universe.
    This mode might be a way to play a season with the Pirates without fretting about my franchise setup, rosters, etc, but still have a somewhat engaging experience. However, I suspect there will be little to no customization, including sliders, which is a potential negative. Nevertheless, I like the idea of more storytelling elements finding their way into the game. Ideally, these additions are also part of franchise, or at least will be added based on how it goes this year.
    Themayorofawsometown
    This sums up my feelings with some of these posters here recently. It's like they don't remember back when they were a kid/casual fan of baseball. Not everyone is going to be a simhead out of the womb. It's good to give those who may not be a huge baseball fan a mode that may appeal to them more. These old school mentalities is why a bunch of young kids call baseball "boring". Give the kids or new fans a chance to fall in love with the game at their pace rather than hating on anything than is for hyper fans of baseball.
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    turning baseball into cards. and fantasy and gambling with real money won't help with kids growing up. they find baseball boring because the game can go for 3 to 4 hours.
    the mentality of the modern gaming is to grind and bore the player to death so that they then pay with real money 'pay to win' that is multiplayer. and the sooner this becomes illegal the better for the gaming industry before it collapses like it did in 1983
    Themayorofawsometown
    This sums up my feelings with some of these posters here recently. It's like they don't remember back when they were a kid/casual fan of baseball. Not everyone is going to be a simhead out of the womb. It's good to give those who may not be a huge baseball fan a mode that may appeal to them more. These old school mentalities is why a bunch of young kids call baseball "boring". Give the kids or new fans a chance to fall in love with the game at their pace rather than hating on anything than is for hyper fans of baseball.
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    I don't think anybody isn't welcoming new modes. If people love March to October. Great. But don't ignore your franchise guys.
    That's the problem.
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    Karle
    In DD I like the fact one can brand your own team and design the uniforms. It should not be that hard to carry tgat over to Franchise if SDS wanted to do it. However there seems to be no interest by SDS in doing so.
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    I think there is a very real possibility that MLB won’t let them do this. They seem to be more protective of their branding than leagues like the NBA and NFL.
    ninertravel
    Retro mode this mode. crucial modes... think of all the time spent on recycled modes that will vanish and come back in 5 year cycles. and all the DD crap that makes the $$.
    imagine the time they could have used for franchise and making that mode bigger. instead we get these little casual fan modes.
    the gaming industry is in big trouble and the sporting one is in dire straits right now.

    Hey Niner, I do have to disagree a bit with you. I do not think that the sports game industry is in bad shape per se, because the money is coming in. I think that the risk is more long term. If they continue to chase away their hardcore fan base, they might be in trouble when the DD, MUTS etc start to get too repetitive and they lose those folks.
    I did not buy Madden this year due a lack of franchise mode enhancements and that MUT felt like the same thing every year. They really lost me because of Franchise, not because of the staleness of MUT.
    DamnYanks2
    I don't think anybody isn't welcoming new modes. If people love March to October. Great. But don't ignore your franchise guys.
    That's the problem.
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    I definitely get the feeling of franchise being a bit looked over but I'm mostly taking to dude who are doom and gloom that act like this mode(and fortnite they always bring up fortnite) is the end of civilization as we know it and proves that kids today have the attention spans of goldfish and how back in my day we played all 162 at the age of 7 ect. ect.
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    goillini03
    Hey Niner, I do have to disagree a bit with you. I do not think that the sports game industry is in bad shape per se, because the money is coming in. I think that the risk is more long term. If they continue to chase away their hardcore fan base, they might be in trouble when the DD, MUTS etc start to get too repetitive and they lose those folks.
    I did not buy Madden this year due a lack of franchise mode enhancements and that MUT felt like the same thing every year. They really lost me because of Franchise, not because of the staleness of MUT.

    I used to play madden every year and play it to death I stopped in 2012 when the CFM ruined the entire franchise. I have bought it maybe 3 times since. but never really played much of it after a few weeks..... maybe I am getting to old now? I had been playing it since madden 93. is it me that is getting stale?? we do the same with music too how many people in their 50s only listen to 70s and 80s music?? maybe our brains after we turn a certain age completely switch off and can't take anymore.
    but lets look at other sports games. Tennis games has been a complete disaster in the 2 that came out last year
    NBA 2K have gone the microtransations way
    Madden just has issues after issues every year but IGN keep giving fake reviews of 8 out 10 for the same game every year
    UFC is also a in a disgrace
    we have not had a boxing game every on this generation of consoles.
    MLB we know this story
    NHL
    is their a sports game right now in the peak of it's prime?? MLb the show as there in about 2010 to 2014. Madden was there from about 2001 to 2005. (I think it's downfall started when they stripped everything on the PS3 days)
    ninertravel
    turning baseball into cards. and fantasy and gambling with real money won't help with kids growing up. they find baseball boring because the game can go for 3 to 4 hours.
    the mentality of the modern gaming is to grind and bore the player to death so that they then pay with real money 'pay to win' that is multiplayer. and the sooner this becomes illegal the better for the gaming industry before it collapses like it did in 1983

    We are talking about March to October which as far as we know has no of the things you are talking about it your post.
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    ninertravel
    I used to play madden every year and play it to death I stopped in 2012 when the CFM ruined the entire franchise. I have bought it maybe 3 times since. but never really played much of it after a few weeks..... maybe I am getting to old now? I had been playing it since madden 93. is it me that is getting stale?? we do the same with music too how many people in their 50s only listen to 70s and 80s music?? maybe our brains after we turn a certain age completely switch off and can't take anymore.
    but lets look at other sports games. Tennis games has been a complete disaster in the 2 that came out last year
    NBA 2K have gone the microtransations way
    Madden just has issues after issues every year but IGN keep giving fake reviews of 8 out 10 for the same game every year
    UFC is also a in a disgrace
    we have not had a boxing game every on this generation of consoles.
    MLB we know this story
    NHL
    is their a sports game right now in the peak of it's prime?? MLb the show as there in about 2010 to 2014. Madden was there from about 2001 to 2005. (I think it's downfall started when they stripped everything on the PS3 days)

    To you and I, the games are probably not at their peaks. But the money flowing into those games tell a different story. That is why I say that the games are not in any sort of trouble. When the money dries up, it might be really ugly for these divisions.
    goillini03
    To you and I, the games are probably not at their peaks. But the money flowing into those games tell a different story. That is why I say that the games are not in any sort of trouble. When the money dries up, it might be really ugly for these divisions.

    If you look at the top 10 selling games of 2018... about 8 of them are Mobile games.... so that is what is happening. console games are trying to bring that 'mobile game' market loot boxes etc into our games. getting in on that cash grab. and sports games see things like fortnite which was basically a mobile game in itself. and they thought lets have MUT or DD mode.
    Seriously.. or SDS would have to do is create DD mode for mobile only and they would make MILLIONS!! then they could have a true baseball game for console baseball franchise guys.
    March to October is just streamlining even more... we had quick counts then move into franchise moments when you want to. now this march to October stuff.
    Basically you are cutting actual baseball game play out of a game, what is the point of a sports game if you are just gonna slip 80% of it?? and just play 5 mins of game play in a match?
    This is the issue I have. they are working so hard and cutting things for casual players and cutting their game apart whist it is 'optional' the people that like to play 162 games a year don't get anything new or any new options at all.
    Look there is nothing wrong with feeling that franchise is being ignored or that you wish more time was devoted to it, or that more things were added to it. All of us franchise mode players feel this way.
    What is wrong though is constantly going into threads that have nothing to do with franchise mode and constantly repeating those frustrations over and over again to the point where the original concept of the thread gets lost in this "ranting".
    You want to voice your displeasure with how they are not focusing on franchise mode then start a thread about it and rant in there.
    There is no reason why a thread created to discuss a mode not named franchise mode, needs to be made into a let's voice our displeasure about the lack of attention given to franchise mode thread.
    It's getting tiresome and old.
    Now...how about we discuss the topic at hand...March to October.
    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?
    Themayorofawsometown
    I definitely get the feeling of franchise being a bit looked over but I'm mostly taking to dude who are doom and gloom that act like this mode(and fortnite they always bring up fortnite) is the end of civilization as we know it and proves that kids today have the attention spans of goldfish and how back in my day we played all 162 at the age of 7 ect. ect.
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    People are nervous. Because this is their favorite series and this company is changing on us.
    All these transaction based game modes are definitely hurting gaming imo. And I'm honestly sick of it.
    Offline players are being forgotten. And I was hoping this company wasn't gonna follow suit.
    This is the only sports game I really play anymore. Done with 2K and Madden. And the Show is about to push me out too.
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    countryboy
    Look there is nothing wrong with feeling that franchise is being ignored or that you wish more time was devoted to it, or that more things were added to it. All of us franchise mode players feel this way.
    What is wrong though is constantly going into threads that have nothing to do with franchise mode and constantly repeating those frustrations over and over again to the point where the original concept of the thread gets lost in this "ranting".
    You want to voice your displeasure with how they are not focusing on franchise mode then start a thread about it and rant in there.
    There is no reason why a thread created to discuss a mode not named franchise mode, needs to be made into a let's voice our displeasure about the lack of attention given to franchise mode thread.
    It's getting tiresome and old.
    Now...how about we discuss the topic at hand...March to October.
    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?

    I cannot see them doing that. I think will be a strictly moment by moment game. But I have been wrong before!
    countryboy

    Now...how about we discuss the topic at hand...March to October.
    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?

    That is my biggest concern that full games are going to be few and far between. Also, I don’t want to always be on the losing end with these half games if I choose a long shot team.
    I am not a fan of player lock and being forced to do it is not exciting going into it.
    I do wonder if we can stop the simming and play a game or is it all on cruise control.
    goillini03
    I cannot see them doing that. I think will be a strictly moment by moment game. But I have been wrong before!

    This is becoming my thinking as well.
    nemesis04
    That is my biggest concern that full games are going to be few and far between. Also, I don’t want to always be on the losing end with these half games if I choose a long shot team.
    I am not a fan of player lock and being forced to do it is not exciting going into it.
    I do wonder if we can stop the swimming and play a game or is it all on cruise control.

    I'm honestly concerned that full games aren't even going to exist in this mode. I'm also curious as to how many games are going to be simmed vs those that are "played". 50/50? More?
    I'm thinking its going to be all on cruise control. I'm really starting to think its like a choose your adventure type mode. If the player does this, then this scenario happens.
    In the span of 12 hours I've gone from, not my cup of tea, to this could be different and fun, to not my cup of tea...:google:
    Thursday's stream is going to be interesting.
    countryboy
    Look there is nothing wrong with feeling that franchise is being ignored or that you wish more time was devoted to it, or that more things were added to it. All of us franchise mode players feel this way.
    What is wrong though is constantly going into threads that have nothing to do with franchise mode and constantly repeating those frustrations over and over again to the point where the original concept of the thread gets lost in this "ranting".
    You want to voice your displeasure with how they are not focusing on franchise mode then start a thread about it and rant in there.
    There is no reason why a thread created to discuss a mode not named franchise mode, needs to be made into a let's voice our displeasure about the lack of attention given to franchise mode thread.
    It's getting tiresome and old.
    Now...how about we discuss the topic at hand...March to October.
    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?

    They also said some games will be played as the whole team, and some will be player locked. It sounds a lot like critical situations. But I couldn't imagine not having the ability to play a full nine inning game at some point.
    I am one of those people who you mentioned "constantly complain and whine about franchise", but this mode has me intrigued. I could see myself playing this until "OSFM" drops. The cut scenes and how each team kind of has there stories sounds interesting to me. I am definitely more excited over this mode than "moments" and will probably give it a shot and see how each teams story plays out, and see how much varieties involved.
    countryboy
    I'm honestly concerned that full games aren't even going to exist in this mode. I'm also curious as to how many games are going to be simmed vs those that are "played". 50/50? More?
    I'm thinking its going to be all on cruise control. I'm really starting to think its like a choose your adventure type mode. If the player does this, then this scenario happens.
    In the span of 12 hours I've gone from, not my cup of tea, to this could be different and fun, to not my cup of tea...:google:
    Thursday's stream is going to be interesting.

    Yeah, there needs to be more clarification on how rigid this mode is.
    I am still without a mode to play so I will see what they have to say on Thursday.
    countryboy
    Look there is nothing wrong with feeling that franchise is being ignored or that you wish more time was devoted to it, or that more things were added to it. All of us franchise mode players feel this way.
    What is wrong though is constantly going into threads that have nothing to do with franchise mode and constantly repeating those frustrations over and over again to the point where the original concept of the thread gets lost in this "ranting".
    You want to voice your displeasure with how they are not focusing on franchise mode then start a thread about it and rant in there.
    There is no reason why a thread created to discuss a mode not named franchise mode, needs to be made into a let's voice our displeasure about the lack of attention given to franchise mode thread.
    It's getting tiresome and old.
    Now...how about we discuss the topic at hand...March to October.
    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?

    You mean their will be a franchise stream thread we can talk about it on at some stage??
    I actually think if the franchise stream was first (if there even will be one) then there wouldn't be as much as the 'negative posts' because us franchise guys have no details or anything to talk about it. and the franchise info was suppose to be 'this week' the details is under the March to October' so I don't know what thread we are suppose to talk about franchise in.
    Themayorofawsometown
    This sums up my feelings with some of these posters here recently. It's like they don't remember back when they were a kid/casual fan of baseball. Not everyone is going to be a simhead out of the womb. It's good to give those who may not be a huge baseball fan a mode that may appeal to them more. These old school mentalities is why a bunch of young kids call baseball "boring". Give the kids or new fans a chance to fall in love with the game at their pace rather than hating on anything than is for hyper fans of baseball.
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    This was very similar to my sentiment after the stream unveiling Moments. People were complaining that playing a single at-bat wasn't immersive enough, but all through the stream I was thinking about how cool it would've been when I was a kid. Who didn't play around in their yard, giving a "bottom of the 9th, 2 outs" commentary as they tried (over and over) to hit a "home run," whatever that meant in the space they had. It was repetitive as hell. Any adult or even older teenager probably would find it boring. But that's how kids fall in love with sports. I felt like the mode captured that.
    Same with this. It's not my thing. But I can see it being fun for a lot of other players (kids who lack attention span, adults who have busy schedules and kids of their own who can't commit to long seasons). It's not necessarily the game I want, but it doesn't strike me as an abomination worthy of outrage or anything.
    ninertravel
    turning baseball into cards. and fantasy and gambling with real money won't help with kids growing up. they find baseball boring because the game can go for 3 to 4 hours.
    the mentality of the modern gaming is to grind and bore the player to death so that they then pay with real money 'pay to win' that is multiplayer. and the sooner this becomes illegal the better for the gaming industry before it collapses like it did in 1983

    "Turning baseball into cards" has been happening on the bedroom floors of young baseball fans for longer than most baseball fans have been alive.
    nemesis04
    That is my biggest concern that full games are going to be few and far between. Also, I don’t want to always be on the losing end with these half games if I choose a long shot team.
    I am not a fan of player lock and being forced to do it is not exciting going into it.
    I do wonder if we can stop the simming and play a game or is it all on cruise control.

    I'm assuming that whoever you pick, you will win the WS if you succeed in enough of these critical moments, that's the whole point. So presumably with the worse teams they might be harder? or just you'll be using worse players? Either way, the game looks entirely about winning the WS and which team you use is more of a difficulty slider. The mode seems more about fantasy than actual realism/sim thing
    Noticed on a screenshot Road to The Show and Diamond Dynasty have a "New" label on them despite not being new modes. The only mode without this label besides Play Now is Franchise Mode. Shows how few F's were given. I do actually play Diamond Dynasty and really enjoy it, but also like to play Franchise and it's so pathetic how much it's completely disregarded and the same glitches and broken items from 3 years ago havnt even been touched or acknowledged. I guess that's all sports games these days though, you're forced to accept it or not play.
    ninertravel
    You mean their will be a franchise stream thread we can talk about it on at some stage??
    I actually think if the franchise stream was first (if there even will be one) then there wouldn't be as much as the 'negative posts' because us franchise guys have no details or anything to talk about it. and the franchise info was suppose to be 'this week' the details is under the March to October' so I don't know what thread we are suppose to talk about franchise in.

    There is a twitch stream scheduled for Thursday that will discuss March to October and listed under that stream is the addition of CONTRACT EXTENSIONS to franchise mode, so you can discuss franchise mode in the thread that will be dedicated to that stream.
    As for the rest of the post....last time I checked there were 7 days in a week. We are on Monday, which is the 2nd day of the week, so we have 5 more to go for franchise information to be released.
    And having no franchise mode information is not a valid reason to continually take a thread topic discussing a different mode, off topic to complain about the lack of attention/info/additions to franchise mode.
    As for the thread to discuss your franchise mode frustrations, I said CREATE ONE to discuss those frustrations, instead of constantly taking other threads off topic.
    BigOscar
    I'm assuming that whoever you pick, you will win the WS if you succeed in enough of these critical moments, that's the whole point. So presumably with the worse teams they might be harder? or just you'll be using worse players? Either way, the game looks entirely about winning the WS and which team you use is more of a difficulty slider. The mode seems more about fantasy than actual realism/sim thing

    That is my thinking as well.
    I'm thinking this is a story type mode that as long as you win/succeed you'll "beat" the game, which in this mode means winning the World Series and collecting the rewards.
    It will be the same as say beating a FPS game on Easy, Medium, Hard, and Hardcore.
    countryboy

    One thing that just jumped out to me is that it mentions that you'll play the opening day game in later innings, meaning that some portion of the game has been simulated up to that point. Which brings me to a question...will you never play a full 9 inning game in this mode?

    If I had to make a guess, regular season wise you'll play:
    7 full games
    8 pinchhit/closer situations
    4 player locks full game
    2 something else
    During postseason it will be play each game fully.
    They said it should only take a few sittings to play through. So it can't be more than like 12 hours to finsh.
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    I'll need more info on this mode to decide whether it's for me or not. It looks like you could do the same thing in franchise mode using critical situations.
    I hope they bring back season mode. I used it for playing classic rosters created by the community.
    Oof.
    Wow.
    That's a tough, tough pill when the community thought almost for certain that this mode would be a re-packaged season mode...what we got is...not that. It's like the critical situations virus has metastasized or something. They just keep doing their Manfred-ian best to tell us that baseball seasons are boring so let's just cut all that baseball playing out...much better!
    It's kind of funny that they're pitching this mode as a "quick way to get your team to the postseason." You know what else would be a quick way to do this? Having season mode in there and reducing the number of games...and then 2 years worth of development could have gone toward something that people actually might want.
    I'm not sure how many times I can really keep stating that I wholeheartedly disagree with Sony's entire development strategy on this game--but I do. This little teaser video pushed me hard toward "no buy" status. I really need to see something on Thursday's stream (in addition to contract extensions) to have any desire at all to purchase. Really disappointing that I'm probably sitting out the only console game I play for the 2nd year in a row. Good thing my PS4 Pro is useful for other things!

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