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eFootball PES 2021 Available Today - Post Your Impressions Here

eFootball PES 2021

eFootball PES 2021 Available Today - Post Your Impressions Here

eFootball PES 2021 is available today for Xbox One, PlayStation 4 and PC. The Standard Edition costs $29.99.

Club Editions for FC Barcelona, FC Bayern Munchen, Juventus, Manchester United and Arsenal will cost $34.99. Each Club Edition comes with the club’s full squad (players and manager) as well as several club-themed bonuses, including an Iconic Moment Series player, a digital kit and more.

Users that currently own eFootball PES 2020 will get a 20% discount.

For those of you that purchased the game and played a few games, post your impressions in the comments. The Operation Sports review will be online soon.

 

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  1. Game feels very smooth
    Great spacing
    Seems like auto replays have been toned down a bit...still wish they gave you the option to turn them off.
    Fatigue works great
    I only played about 5 minutes before starting work this morning. Playing on Pro, had 3 fouls called on me within the first few minutes. Way too small sample size, but I'm hoping fouls have been addressed at least somewhat.
    I have only played a half of Portugal v Argentina while the game is downloading. Game feels smooth and I like the openness to it. Can't really comment on anything else until I can turn up the difficulty though.
    Played four 10 minute games on Pro difficulty last night and it played as well as I could expect. Played matches in the Euros, the Brazilian and Dutch leagues and an EPL match Pretty much the same as last year I did see some nice saves by the keeper in 1 v 1 situations that would have normally been automatic goals last year so that's promising. As for fouls seems about the same to me. Had a few for both myself and CPU. Mostly CPU though and of course some particularly bad missed calls in the box as I got absolutely crushed a few times.
    Played about 8 games so far all on FUMA Top Player difficultly. The subtle tweaks to gameplay are good. Plays smoothly, feels more responsive and manual passing is really enjoyable. Just downloaded the Option File from PES Universe so will be getting that up and running soon. It is fundamentally the same game but as already stated, there are a few tweaks that have helped. Just my thoughts.
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    Did they actually touch the gameplay. I thought it was just a roster and kit update. I liked last years gameplay but wasn’t going to get this years update but I may if it’s playing even better.
    BenVenom
    Did they actually touch the gameplay. I thought it was just a roster and kit update. I liked last years gameplay but wasn’t going to get this years update but I may if it’s playing even better.

    They have made some subtle tweaks. It’s more responsive, dribbling is better, refs unfortunately seem the same but some of the collisions animations are better too.
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    villabraves
    They have made some subtle tweaks. It’s more responsive, dribbling is better, refs unfortunately seem the same but some of the collisions animations are better too.
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    Agreed. I’m enjoying it so far. I’m not a PES vet or very good at the game, but I’m trying manual passing and advanced through balls and shooting.
    I’m terrible but it feels like a completely different game with these settings.
    Yeah manual is the way to go for me, it was a struggle and I disliked at first for me but once I stuck with it and figured it out I having a hard time going back niw. The passing angles you can play the ball bring it to a new level and you just aren't able to see on assisted passing. Playing an Athletic Club ML now and I am able to play to balls ahead and into open space to Inaki Williams to really allow him to showcase his speed even more.
    PES Universe option file I found posted on reddit:
    http://www.mediafire.com/file/ipe1uda6ralt2dl/PESUniverse+Option+File+2021+V1.rar/file
    I've been playing a lot of PES 2020 lately. And I immediately noticed the small tweaks to 2021. It feels more fluid. More responsive in most situations. I've also been seen far more tactical build up play. The AI going side to side a lot more once they get into the final third. Or maybe I've just been playing so much I've gotten better at defense in PES.
    Subtle changes but for the better.  Fouls seemed the same for me.  The big thing for me and why I purchased it was the awareness seems to be better...it was the worst I've seen in more than 30 years of gaming in pes 20.  At least they toned down the nonsense where the ball would just roll past players not reacting at all just for some poor oak running from 30 yards away to come and fetch it.
    I am actually quite disappointed to see the same squads from last year, no new transfer has been implemented to the squads and also the strips of most teams are from last year. Konami ! Come on now. How can you say like you are not releasing a new game and sell basically "an official option file" with updated squads & kits - strips- but as I checked SS Lazio, Napoli have the shirts of last season...
    This is unacceptable.
    Did they do any changes to gameplay? People are saying it's better but i only played 1/2 game, got 5-1 against Juventus with SS Lazio in Top Player difficulty, the game felt very easy. I will start playing it fully when the transfers are done and strips are updated
    lareka
    I am actually quite disappointed to see the same squads from last year, no new transfer has been implemented to the squads and also the strips of most teams are from last year. Konami ! Come on now. How can you say like you are not releasing a new game and sell basically "an official option file" with updated squads & kits - strips- but as I checked SS Lazio, Napoli have the shirts of last season...
    This is unacceptable.
    Did they do any changes to gameplay? People are saying it's better but i only played 1/2 game, got 5-1 against Juventus with SS Lazio in Top Player difficulty, the game felt very easy. I will start playing it fully when the transfers are done and strips are updated

    They said they aren't releasing updated rosters until after the transfer window ends which was delayed until October because of COVID.
    Yeah it sucks but transfers involve much more than just moving Player A to Team A and so forth. Sometimes it requires creating new players, removing players, etc...
    Not saying it doesn't suck but it's par the course with both FIFA and PES from the past few years.
    Hunkerdown
    Starting a chelsea ML on Top Player, 12 min. With Lampard as manager.
    http://www.twitch.tv/thegritzblitz
    PSN: TheGritsBlitz

    Man rude awaking for me, haha, game is so much more better, started against liverpool and got thrashed. Then a 1-1 draw against west ham. Any suggestions, as far as , manual or not manual, should i give it a go and drop a level to get use t it. It does seem some passes I do with default assists are not going where intended at times.
    Hunkerdown
    Man rude awaking for me, haha, game is so much more better, started against liverpool and got thrashed. Then a 1-1 draw against west ham. Any suggestions, as far as , manual or not manual, should i give it a go and drop a level to get use t it. It does seem some passes I do with default assists are not going where intended at times.

    I say give it a go and drop down to Professional, if you haven't tried it before you might be a little frustrating but curious to see what you think.
    Hunkerdown
    Man rude awaking for me, haha, game is so much more better, started against liverpool and got thrashed. Then a 1-1 draw against west ham. Any suggestions, as far as , manual or not manual, should i give it a go and drop a level to get use t it. It does seem some passes I do with default assists are not going where intended at times.

    I have been trying manual for ages and would just go back to assisted level 1 when I couldn’t score let alone win. However, the last week of PES 2020 I just buckled down and played more and more FUMA and I genuinely believe PES 2021 is better on FUMA. I started out on Top Player in the local match (exhibition) but I’m thinking for ML I will drop down to professional to start with, due to the AI being better in ML. The only thing I can’t decide on is my camera setting. I love the live broadcast camera and use that when playing assisted but I’ve been experimenting with the stadium camera on zoom 2, height 0-4 angle 3. That feels very similar to the default camera on FIFA. I just need to make my mind up and stick with one!
    BenVenom
    Love using manual for everything, even if you need to drop a difficulty level it’s so worth it. What camera angle is everybody using?

    I’ve been using the live broadcast camera or the stadium camera on zoom 2, height 0-4 and angle 3. Trying to narrow it down so I can just concentrate on one setting only.
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    Yeah I’d play manual I always drop it down a level or go basic shooting until I get the gist of passing.
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    tinpanalley
    I don't know what's going on but is anyone else not seeing their 20% discount on Steam?

    Was it only for preorders or I think you may have to purchase it through PES 20.
    RoyceDa59
    Was it only for preorders or I think you may have to purchase it through PES 20.
    Doesnt work through the game either. And it was meant to last until the end of october.
    I don't know maybe it's all in my head but I'm really enjoying it. I've played a good number of matches now and while it's largely the same something feels different in a good way. Maybe it's because I'm largely a FIFA player so I don't notice the negatives as much. There are some annoying bits here and there but stuff I can live with.
    Let's face it. This is what PES 2020 should have been. Whilst it's largely the same game, there are welcome tweaks everywhere, mainly:
    - Tighter controls 
    - Better player positioning
    - Better player awareness
    - An enjoyable manual experience with manual passing and through balls
    - Good overall pace
    - Players take less time to recover from a tackle 
    - Quicker and more effective dribbling moves
     
    tinpanalley
    Wish I could play manual. I just don't have the skill.

    Try it out in training mode but I definitely understand if you don't want to take that time because you can use that time to play actual matches.
    iaxy
    Let's face it. This is what PES 2020 should have been. Whilst it's largely the same game, there are welcome tweaks everywhere, mainly:
    - Tighter controls*
    - Better player positioning
    - Better player awareness
    - An enjoyable manual experience with manual passing and through balls
    - Good overall pace
    - Players take less time to recover from a tackle*
    - Quicker and more effective dribbling moves
    *

    The improved response is something I am looking forward to as I don't have the game yet and don't plan on picking it up until Evoweb patch drops.
    iaxy
    Let's face it. This is what PES 2020 should have been. Whilst it's largely the same game, there are welcome tweaks everywhere, mainly

    I just wish there was a way to freeze the gameplay where it is now. So that it wouldn't change for the worse. I suppose you could just play now and never update. But that would be tough for getting mods.
    RoyceDa59
    Try it out in training mode but I definitely understand if you don't want to take that time because you can use that time to play actual matches.
    It's not about the time. I just don't seem physically capable of understanding the aiming. I feel like it's too sensitive and too easy to kick too hard or too soft. And it also feels like the CPU can always get to the ball faster than I can. Like they have no acceleration issues.
    tinpanalley
    It's not about the time. I just don't seem physically capable of understanding the aiming. I feel like it's too sensitive and too easy to kick too hard or too soft. And it also feels like the CPU can always get to the ball faster than I can. Like they have no acceleration issues.

    Gotcha I felt this way at first but you will get use to it. I had to realize passing attributes will come into play eve more on manual when some of my passes get under or over hit.
    tinpanalley
    It's not about the time. I just don't seem physically capable of understanding the aiming. I feel like it's too sensitive and too easy to kick too hard or too soft. And it also feels like the CPU can always get to the ball faster than I can. Like they have no acceleration issues.

    Try using the manual modifier (L2/LT). You can use it while you’re still playing PA1 to get a hang of things.
    The cool thing about it is that it brings up the directional arrow so you can see where you’re passing.
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    KG
    Try using the manual modifier (L2/LT). You can use it while you’re still playing PA1 to get a hang of things.
    The cool thing about it is that it brings up the directional arrow so you can see where you’re passing.
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    You can use this for shooting as well I believe, I always forget about that arrow.
    KG
    Try using the manual modifier (L2/LT). You can use it while you’re still playing PA1 to get a hang of things.
    The cool thing about it is that it brings up the directional arrow so you can see where you’re passing.

    Hm... I forgot about that arrow L2 feature. I've even used it on auto aim passing from time to time when I wanted to be really sure of my passes in a close game. I guess that was my brain telling me something.
    And that arrow is for shooting too?
    It says CDN$ 42.99 for the standard edition. Does that include the 20% off? I have PES 20 and clicked on the button to go to the steam store in game. I'm confused.
    bransen
    It says CDN$ 42.99 for the standard edition. Does that include the 20% off? I have PES 20 and clicked on the button to go to the steam store in game. I'm confused.
    Somebody recently told me that actually the standard edition wouldn't be getting the discount. Strange. Not what the game's site says.
    And no, when there's 20% off it should say 20%off
    If you look at the website closely the standard edition is in a separate blue box than the club edition and 20% tag. If you just glance at it then it looks like one big blue box. So the 20% is only for the Club edition. It's a sneaky bit of web design.
    jrnlgrn
    If you look at the website closely the standard edition is in a separate blue box than the club edition and 20% tag. If you just glance at it then it looks like one big blue box. So the 20% is only for the Club edition. It's a sneaky bit of web design.

    In game discount the club edition is actually cheaper than the standard
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    I didn’t think there’d be any way I’d pay to get a roster update, but after hearing the positive reviews and finding it for $20 on pc, I got it.
    This game is what next gen was supposed to be all these years. It feel a lot like the ps2 glory days. Very responsive, very good physics and spacing. No cheese so far. I rly hope they don’t touch the gameplay at all. I did a skill move in the box and scored a goal I was never able to score in PES 2020. This exact game with next n graphics will be insane.
    I’m not trying to oversell it, but it just feel right and is actually super fun again.
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    sva91
    I didn’t think there’d be any way I’d pay to get a roster update, but after hearing the positive reviews and finding it for $20 on pc, I got it.
    This game is what next gen was supposed to be all these years. It feel a lot like the ps2 glory days. Very responsive, very good physics and spacing. No cheese so far. I rly hope they don’t touch the gameplay at all. I did a skill move in the box and scored a goal I was never able to score in PES 2020. This exact game with next n graphics will be insane.
    I’m not trying to oversell it, but it just feel right and is actually super fun again.
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    Couldn't agree more.
    I don't think EvoWeb Patch will be ready for this data pack, probably for a later one. But I'm seriously consideringjust taking an option file that was recently released and playing with that and blocking my game from updating. The game is just too good to risk updates ruining it.
    tinpanalley
    Couldn't agree more.
    I don't think EvoWeb Patch will be ready for this data pack, probably for a later one. But I'm seriously consideringjust taking an option file that was recently released and playing with that and blocking my game from updating. The game is just too good to risk updates ruining it.

    It’s worth the extra $40?
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    tinpanalley
    Couldn't agree more.
    I don't think EvoWeb Patch will be ready for this data pack, probably for a later one. But I'm seriously consideringjust taking an option file that was recently released and playing with that and blocking my game from updating. The game is just too good to risk updates ruining it.

    Man same. I am really scared they will totally ruin gameplay like the updates did last year.
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    sva91
    Man same. I am really scared they will totally ruin gameplay like the updates did last year.
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    Definitely agree,having been a pes fan for some many years its so nice to have an enjoyable experience again.Its not perfect but at times its great to play and is undoubtedly a more realistic representation of how football is played.Just a shame im on xbox but am slowly editing kits to at least resemble the official ones albeit without logos and real badges.Are you gonna be streaming matt?
    oh btw how do i turn off updates?thanks
    djs1
    Definitely agree,having been a pes fan for some many years its so nice to have an enjoyable experience again.Its not perfect but at times its great to play and is undoubtedly a more realistic representation of how football is played.Just a shame im on xbox but am slowly editing kits to at least resemble the official ones albeit without logos and real badges.Are you gonna be streaming matt?
    oh btw how do i turn off updates?thanks

    If you play PES a lot, I def recommend switching to PlayStation for next gen. It’s really not the same on Xbox because of the lack of edit features for teams.
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    sva91
    If you play PES a lot, I def recommend switching to PlayStation for next gen. It’s really not the same on Xbox because of the lack of edit features for teams.
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    i hear you matt and the ps5 has already been pre-ordered!Gave my son the choice of xbox or ps and he chose the ps5 which im happy with as saves a lot of hassle.Its taken me about 4 hours to edit four teams so far!
    I thought the only update was the squads but after reading comments here I played 2 games, the gameplay tweaks are significant !
    The game is played more fluid, the passes are more precise and dribbling is smoother. Dribbling is much much better, and i also loved how left footed players use their left foot more often when passing the ball, in pes 20 they used their right foot more often when the ball was on their right foot, they specifically go to their strong foot and pass the ball with that foot. Also the shots look much better, I saw Ilicic scoring a outsider curler with his left foot just out of the penalty box towards my goal which was amazing to witness. Dries Mertens who specifically uses his inside foot with his shots - even from long-range used his trademark inside foot shot whenever I tried to shoot from outside the penalty box and one of them resulted in a goal. In pes 20 he would have hit it with the upper part of his foot for those type of shots. Defending and aerial battles are tweaked as well as i figured out but i couldn't understand if it was for better or worse. The game is more fluid and certainly better gameplay wise. I am really enjoying it. Hoping to enjoy it fully when transfer window closes and I can start a ML with players on their real teams
    SO I bit the bullet since I found it for $20+, from the start it seems exactly like 2020 until I got on the pitch- on the pitch animations are quicker and smoother and passing feels right there. There's definitely an improvement in gameplay, only going to be playing ML as I'm not bothering with myclub anymore.
    I just fear Konami changing something through data packs like they almost always do.
    Hey gentlemen. Im happy to hear about the tweaks and slight adjustments making a big for fans. I just want to know how do the games play out?
    in PES 2020, 95% of games I played saw the opposing team basically just park the bus and turn their attack level down one level. I dont mind playing against defensive teams as this is realistic, but it was basically 9 out of 10 games. Games where the CPU only gets one shot if their lucky.
    Im hoping more teams attack or try and high press or just be more aggressive because the defensive games got boring really quickly.
    Can anyone confirm?
    Even tho it seems like 2020, the gameplay tweaks are on another level. It runs so much smoother and the passing game feels great. I’m really looking forward to playing ML.
    Only gripe is not having a top tier league like Bundesliga and licenses for teams.
    MrOctober430
    Even tho it seems like 2020, the gameplay tweaks are on another level. It runs so much smoother and the passing game feels great. I’m really looking forward to playing ML.
    Only gripe is not having a top tier league like Bundesliga and licenses for teams.

    Get an option file that has the leagues you want. The pes universe option file is outstanding. I am not affiliated with them in any way.
    MDgolf
    Are we able to play on ps5 when it’s out?
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    Yes it is mandatory for all games released at this point to be able to run on the PS5.
    RoyceDa59
    Yes it is mandatory for all games released at this point to be able to run on the PS5.

    But true next gen won’t be until PES 2022?
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    cfiore99
    Get an option file that has the leagues you want. The pes universe option file is outstanding. I am not affiliated with them in any way.

    Unfortunately I’m on XB1 so there’s not a way to get an option file.
    I've played 40 games so far 10 minute length professional difficulty. Once you adjust the tactics of the teams so it's not a constant barrage of long balls the game really starts to shine. Seriously all I need from Konami is an roster with the transfers and I'm good. The only negative is the hit or miss foul calls. Still haven't seen a penalty for myself or the cpu.
    Added some epl stadium mods that I hadn’t seen, and man im loving this years game. Really giving me that old winning eleven feeling. Can someone explain klashman tactics? I believe I’ve hd em on before, but not sure.
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    As for the gameplay, I can't complain much about that either. What I noticed is that sometimes it slowly shifts automatically to the my player who is the nearest to ball, so while I realize that I have to switch manually computer escapes me and scores a goal. Maybe my reflexes are getting old... Secondly, I noticed that the computer does not fly out with the goalkeeper, it stands on the line and then I get to the five yard box and kick. It's like it's a hockey goalkeeper and not a football one. Like looking at myself because that’s how I defend in a league with no worries, the last league so we don’t worry about whether we’ll drop out. Line goalkeeper... Third, I played about 10 games and I didn't get a penalty, I broke several computer's players in my sixteen yard box... I said that I can't complain a lot but here I am... I play at a super star level and when I tried on legend I lost 5-0 at halftime ... I went back to super star...
    does anybody know when the game will update with the 2021 2022 season teams and rosters? im still seeing trannsfer missing and teams that were relegated last season still in 1st division and obviously and same thing with teams that got promoted still stuck in 2nd
    I have been a FIFA baller since '06(?)-ish. I got both this year and even with all the generic kits in PES, im liking how it flows. By no means am I a soccer genius but I can and do watch alot of Bundesliga on weekends. So I'm not completely Footy illiterate lol. I'm having fun and it was $29.99 well spent.
    I'm learning the ways of PES...little mind blown but reading thru some of these threads here and its definitely helping.
    Anyone got a good trusted tutorial on how to upload the option files when i get to that point it'd be bookmarked (on my computer) and appreciated.
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    FunkDockta27
    I have been a FIFA baller since '06(?)-ish. I got both this year and even with all the generic kits in PES, im liking how it flows. By no means am I a soccer genius but I can and do watch alot of Bundesliga on weekends. So I'm not completely Footy illiterate lol. I'm having fun and it was $29.99 well spent.
    I'm learning the ways of PES...little mind blown but reading thru some of these threads here and its definitely helping.
    Anyone got a good trusted tutorial on how to upload the option files when i get to that point it'd be bookmarked (on my computer) and appreciated.
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    Once you get the option file it should come with a tutorial. I don't think I've ever seen one without but just in case follow this:
    FunkDockta27
    I have been a FIFA baller since '06(?)-ish. I got both this year and even with all the generic kits in PES, im liking how it flows. By no means am I a soccer genius but I can and do watch alot of Bundesliga on weekends. So I'm not completely Footy illiterate lol. I'm having fun and it was $29.99 well spent.
    I'm learning the ways of PES...little mind blown but reading thru some of these threads here and its definitely helping.
    Anyone got a good trusted tutorial on how to upload the option files when i get to that point it'd be bookmarked (on my computer) and appreciated.
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    Check out the pesunites org website (sorry I can't post the link yet, as I'm still not confirmed as a proper human lol). They have a tutorial under their V5 option file in the forum.
    So I need the PES 2020 base game to get the patch right? Also, for fully manual people, is the game enjoyable? I remember trying PES 2019 out and not liking the way full manual played on there, but haven't tried 20 out yet. Also, for you "fully manual" players, do you go advanced shooting or stick with manual? I've tried to learn advanced as it seems like the much deeper option, but I just can't wrap my head around it lol!
    HipNotiiC_x
    So I need the PES 2020 base game to get the patch right? Also, for fully manual people, is the game enjoyable? I remember trying PES 2019 out and not liking the way full manual played on there, but haven't tried 20 out yet. Also, for you "fully manual" players, do you go advanced shooting or stick with manual? I've tried to learn advanced as it seems like the much deeper option, but I just can't wrap my head around it lol!

    No you don't need PES 20 to play the season update, also I really enjoy full manual and will never go back very rewarding but it wasn't easy to get to that point because I found it frustrating at first lol. Can't really speak much about advanced shooting as I am not a fan but some people swear by it.
    For me, this game is such a more polished version of 20. I'm playing through EURO and AFCON cups while we await the updated transfers.
    I absolutely love seeing more free kicks this year. I'm really able to draw a lot of contact with just the left stick movement, and a few skill moves I'm trying to perfect. Heck, I even had a PK awarded to me playing as Italy vs. Turkey.
    I know I saw this before, but what are guys doing about Long Ball tactic? I know someone posted a nice fix where you can still get that playstyle but not using the absurd long ball tactic.
    Can't wait to get the updated transfers and start my proper ML.
    RoyceDa59
    No you don't need PES 20 to play the season update, also I really enjoy full manual and will never go back very rewarding but it wasn't easy to get to that point because I found it frustrating at first lol. Can't really speak much about advanced shooting as I am not a fan but some people swear by it.

    Ahh okay, good to know! I play the NHL games as "full manual" as the game allows me because of my obsession with it in PES 2018. Very frustrating for sure, but I find the gameplay so much more dynamic and rewarding when I do setup a nice goal!
    lhsballa11
    For me, this game is such a more polished version of 20. I'm playing through EURO and AFCON cups while we await the updated transfers.
    I absolutely love seeing more free kicks this year. I'm really able to draw a lot of contact with just the left stick movement, and a few skill moves I'm trying to perfect. Heck, I even had a PK awarded to me playing as Italy vs. Turkey.
    I know I saw this before, but what are guys doing about Long Ball tactic? I know someone posted a nice fix where you can still get that playstyle but not using the absurd long ball tactic.
    Can't wait to get the updated transfers and start my proper ML.
    I posted a link to this reddit thread a few weeks back.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/WEPES...al_team_tactics_files_tactics/
    I think the PESuniverse option file has the correct tactics in by default. Maybe. Possibly.
    Thanks, I used these in 2020, but I don't think PESUniverse has inputted them in 2021 yet.
    I was more concerned with just the long ball tactic, as editing each team is a bit tedious if I'm honest lol.
    I'll keep searching the threads though, no worries!
    lhsballa11
    For me, this game is such a more polished version of 20. I'm playing through EURO and AFCON cups while we await the updated transfers.
    I absolutely love seeing more free kicks this year. I'm really able to draw a lot of contact with just the left stick movement, and a few skill moves I'm trying to perfect. Heck, I even had a PK awarded to me playing as Italy vs. Turkey.
    I know I saw this before, but what are guys doing about Long Ball tactic? I know someone posted a nice fix where you can still get that playstyle but not using the absurd long ball tactic.
    Can't wait to get the updated transfers and start my proper ML.

    Any update on when the transfers will be done by Konami?
    By the way some teams have yester year's kits / jerseys like SS LAZIO. Will they fix it too?
    lareka
    Any update on when the transfers will be done by Konami?
    By the way some teams have yester year's kits / jerseys like SS LAZIO. Will they fix it too?

    I believe it's next Thursday, I am waiting to see what happens with this datapack before I purchase this update.
    I'm having a blast so far this year. It's not much different from last year and there's still the issue of people ignoring balls that they shouldn't, but overall a major thumbs up. Using the PES Universe option file and the chant pack.
    I didn't know about the chant packs until this week and it makes a HUGE difference it adding atmosphere. I tried one Russian league team and they are banging a war drum and screaming like madmen. It's brilliant.
    Metsaholic230
    I'm having a blast so far this year. It's not much different from last year and there's still the issue of people ignoring balls that they shouldn't, but overall a major thumbs up. Using the PES Universe option file and the chant pack.
    I didn't know about the chant packs until this week and it makes a HUGE difference it adding atmosphere. I tried one Russian league team and they are banging a war drum and screaming like madmen. It's brilliant.

    Please tell me how to do this !!
    I can't believe how they didn't properly put the correct teams in Serie A in Italy.
    3 relegated teams from last year is in this season's list still
    lareka
    I can't believe how they didn't properly put the correct teams in Serie A in Italy.
    3 relegated teams from last year is in this season's list still
    They said prior to release of the game that Serie A wouldn't be correct upon release. It along with a few other leagues would get fixed in an update.
    Maybe it's in my head but things feel different gameplay seems faster and just simple contact against the cpu seem super sensitive resulting in a foul like it did last year. Keepers also seemed to be stupid. Ugh am I going to regret updating guess.
    I’ve only played one match but I had a really good game. I played the Real - Shakhtar matchup from today. I beat em 1-0 on a penalty in the 92nd minute. The penalty was on a standing tackle too and was a grisly a good call (I’ll upload the clip tomorrow). I’m playing on a new camera with manual passing so that might have slowed it down but it felt normal to me.
    There were like 5-6 fouls total in a ~15 min match so that’s encouraging. I didn’t see anything glaringly bad overall. Thibo made a 1v1 save for me late which kept me in it.
    Small sample size though so I wouldn’t rush to judgement yet either way.
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    Wondering if it's just my PS4 Pro acting weird it sound like a jet engine tonight and typically doesn't sound that loud when playing PES.
    Edit: Sorry for these random stream of consciousness posts about this update so far.
    jrnlgrn
    Wondering if it's just my PS4 Pro acting weird it sound like a jet engine tonight and typically doesn't sound that loud when playing PES.
    Edit: Sorry for these random stream of consciousness posts about this update so far.

    My PS4 Pro always sounds like a jet when I play PES lol. No other game does that though.
    It's all good jrnlgrn. When it comes to patches/data packs we're all kind of "feeling out" the game because Konami NEVER provides patch notes smh. I've only played one game so I could be wayyyyyy off.
    Anyway, here's the elusive penalty spotted in the wild
    Just wanted to give a few observations following the update. I’m currently playing a league save playing as Palace, Wolves and Spurs, full manual, professional difficulty.
    First game Palace v Chelsea, match day 21. Initially the pace felt quicker but not to the extent where it was op. All in all it was a good game, ended 1-1, Chelsea had slightly more possession and more shots but the draw was a fair result given the quality of chances created.
    After this game I exited the game and restarted the PS4 just to see if the updated game did some sort of self reset. Next game was Wolves v Liverpool. Right from the start the pace of the game felt exactly how it was pre update, even when Liverpool went on the attack and using the gegenpress tactic. Really enjoyed the game, probably one of the most enjoyable 0-0 draws I’ve played.
    Last game was Leeds v Spurs. Leeds are in the bottom 3 and Spurs top 3. The game played how I thought it would with Spurs comfortable 0-3 winners, possession was quite even but Spurs created a boatload of chances and the score line flattered Leeds (manual shooting 🤦).
    Ok, things I noticed and my personal opinion. Players not reacting when the ball was there to be taken is still happening, but for me personally, it’s not to the extent where it’s unplayable. The pace of the game I still find to be pretty good despite the very first game starting quickly. As I said that game settled down the longer it went on. I know there are flaws with some of the gameplay but in general I still really like it and my only real observation of anything different was player stamina levels. Previously, certain players would tire severely as the game went on, especially if tactics like attacking fullbacks were used, but post update these players were still raring to go after 80 minutes even if they started the game under 100% fitness.
    That’s it so far, only 3 games played but I’m going to start a ML soon so I will see how the update plays out there.
    One last thing, if you haven’t tried full manual yet trust me, it is well worth practicing. The gameplay is so much better and definitely more rewarding!
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    KG
    My PS4 Pro always sounds like a jet when I play PES lol. No other game does that though.
    It's all good jrnlgrn. When it comes to patches/data packs we're all kind of "feeling out" the game because Konami NEVER provides patch notes smh. I've only played one game so I could be wayyyyyy off.
    Anyway, here's the elusive penalty spotted in the wild
    Usually it sounds like a dull whir. Last night it sounded like it does when you are doing a contract negotiation in FIFA. VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM.
    It did calm down as I kept playing. Just means that I need that PS5 before the PS4 Pro melts or something haha.
    villabraves
    Just wanted to give a few observations following the update. I’m currently playing a league save playing as Palace, Wolves and Spurs, full manual, professional difficulty.
    First game Palace v Chelsea, match day 21. Initially the pace felt quicker but not to the extent where it was op. All in all it was a good game, ended 1-1, Chelsea had slightly more possession and more shots but the draw was a fair result given the quality of chances created.
    After this game I exited the game and restarted the PS4 just to see if the updated game did some sort of self reset. Next game was Wolves v Liverpool. Right from the start the pace of the game felt exactly how it was pre update, even when Liverpool went on the attack and using the gegenpress tactic. Really enjoyed the game, probably one of the most enjoyable 0-0 draws I’ve played.
    Last game was Leeds v Spurs. Leeds are in the bottom 3 and Spurs top 3. The game played how I thought it would with Spurs comfortable 0-3 winners, possession was quite even but Spurs created a boatload of chances and the score line flattered Leeds (manual shooting ).
    Ok, things I noticed and my personal opinion. Players not reacting when the ball was there to be taken is still happening, but for me personally, it’s not to the extent where it’s unplayable. The pace of the game I still find to be pretty good despite the very first game starting quickly. As I said that game settled down the longer it went on. I know there are flaws with some of the gameplay but in general I still really like it and my only real observation of anything different was player stamina levels. Previously, certain players would tire severely as the game went on, especially if tactics like attacking fullbacks were used, but post update these players were still raring to go after 80 minutes even if they started the game under 100% fitness.
    That’s it so far, only 3 games played but I’m going to start a ML soon so I will see how the update plays out there.
    One last thing, if you haven’t tried full manual yet trust me, it is well worth practicing. The gameplay is so much better and definitely more rewarding!
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    Good hopefully it will be all good when I fire it up tonight l and it was all placebo yesterday. Won't start my ML until the PESuniverse v3 is out which should be soon.
    jrnlgrn
    Good hopefully it will be all good when I fire it up tonight l and it was all placebo yesterday. Won't start my ML until the PESuniverse v3 is out which should be soon.

    Yes I think I will wait for V3 to come out too. I’ve had all this time to decide what team to go with for ML and I’m still undecided!🤦. Don’t know whether to go with Villa, or maybe Forest in the Championship, or Atletico Madrid in La Liga, or a second tier side in Spain, Italy.......I just can’t make my mind up!🤨
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    villabraves
    Yes I think I will wait for V3 to come out too. I’ve had all this time to decide what team to go with for ML and I’m still undecided!*. Don’t know whether to go with Villa, or maybe Forest in the Championship, or Atletico Madrid in La Liga, or a second tier side in Spain, Italy.......I just can’t make my mind up!
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    Good problems to have! Was thinking of doing an ML in Brazil since they have 2 divisions and I know nothing about them. Might use the league mode and do a one off season with a big Euro team. So many options.
    Also cannot wait for V3 of PESuniverse.
    I'm ready to dive deep into my MUFC master league.
    Reading reviews on other sites, seems the gameplay is still rock solid. A lot of comments of even more physicality as well, let's see.
    jrnlgrn
    Good problems to have! Was thinking of doing an ML in Brazil since they have 2 divisions and I know nothing about them. Might use the league mode and do a one off season with a big Euro team. So many options.

    That’s a good idea actually regarding doing a ML and then a one off season in League mode. Think I’ll do ML on professional FUMA and then try the league on Top Player FUMA to see if I can hack it at that level . My aim this year is to get to top player on ML on FUMA, that would be for me, an outstanding accomplishment .
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    villabraves
    That’s a good idea actually regarding doing a ML and then a one off season in League mode. Think I’ll do ML on professional FUMA and then try the league on Top Player FUMA to see if I can hack it at that level . My aim this year is to get to top player on ML on FUMA, that would be for me, an outstanding accomplishment .
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    I'm diving into Manual shooting myself, but I can't get behind FUMA passing. It seems like there are a lot of issues for the game to identify who you are passing to on FUMA. You'll try and thread a ball across the lines for the RW, yet the game changes to the ST who's out of position.
    I also like to keep the player ratings at the forefront. I really wish you could keep assisted "regular pass" and change crossing only to manual. Those long cross field balls on FUMA are absolutely gorgeous.
    lhsballa11
    I'm diving into Manual shooting myself, but I can't get behind FUMA passing. It seems like there are a lot of issues for the game to identify who you are passing to on FUMA. You'll try and thread a ball across the lines for the RW, yet the game changes to the ST who's out of position.
    I also like to keep the player ratings at the forefront. I really wish you could keep assisted "regular pass" and change crossing only to manual. Those long cross field balls on FUMA are absolutely gorgeous.

    I thought this was an issue to but once I started to pass to players like I was on the pitch things changed haha. Passing the ball where I want players to go and into space, it is very difficult to do that on assisted.
    lhsballa11
    I'm diving into Manual shooting myself, but I can't get behind FUMA passing. It seems like there are a lot of issues for the game to identify who you are passing to on FUMA. You'll try and thread a ball across the lines for the RW, yet the game changes to the ST who's out of position.
    I also like to keep the player ratings at the forefront. I really wish you could keep assisted "regular pass" and change crossing only to manual. Those long cross field balls on FUMA are absolutely gorgeous.

    I hear you but tbh manual passing for me is fantastic. Yes you misplace some but I’m not experiencing too many times where the game engine gets confused with who I’m passing to. With assisted passing I nearly always find that the pass goes to a predetermined position, it’s identified the player you are passing to and if that player is moving forwards, 9 times out of 10 the receiver will have to either stop or at least check his run in order to receive it. On manual you play a pass into the forward run and he doesn’t need to break stride, allowing your attack or build up play to flow more freely and not to slow down in order to receive the ball. I hear what you mean about player ratings but for me personally I much prefer manual now. I love the fluidity of the game.
    Did you play manual on FIFA? If you did, imho FUMA on PES is much more user friendly than FIFA, just my opinion.
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    lhsballa11
    I'm diving into Manual shooting myself, but I can't get behind FUMA passing. It seems like there are a lot of issues for the game to identify who you are passing to on FUMA. You'll try and thread a ball across the lines for the RW, yet the game changes to the ST who's out of position.
    I also like to keep the player ratings at the forefront. I really wish you could keep assisted "regular pass" and change crossing only to manual. Those long cross field balls on FUMA are absolutely gorgeous.

    I'm into FUMA passing but I'm on basic shooting while I learn the ins & outs of broadcast camera. I actually find those issues where the game chooses incorrectly who I want to pass too happen more on assisted controls but I've learned to take control of the ball receiver quickly to move them in case my pass is astray.
    Yeah crossing is def tough but I still use the manual modifier to help guide my crosses and even my passes on occasion.
    I'm not some sort of FUMA snob but it really opens up the game. It's def frustrating at times though.
    KG
    I'm into FUMA passing but I'm on basic shooting while I learn the ins & outs of broadcast camera. I actually find those issues where the game chooses incorrectly who I want to pass too happen more on assisted controls but I've learned to take control of the ball receiver quickly to move them in case my pass is astray.
    Yeah crossing is def tough but I still use the manual modifier to help guide my crosses and even my passes on occasion.
    I'm not some sort of FUMA snob but it really opens up the game. It's def frustrating at times though.

    What difficulty level are you on? I played assisted on Top Player but went back down to professional for FUMA. Initially I had to change from live broadcast camera to the stadium custom just to take away some of the ‘angle’ of broadcast. Now I’m back to live broadcast and loving it. Still on professional but aiming to get back to top player this year.
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    Okay patch seems to have settled down. Console is at an acceptable growl, and everything feels like it had prior to last night. All is well in the land of PES again.
    Okay I ready to get this now after reading various impressions from multiple sites but....I really am trying to hold out for Evoweb patch which is still in beta, what to do?
    Dove into a Milan ML last night to tide me over before V3.
    One thing for all to check is "deep defensive line". I know it's been talked about, but its shocking how many teams Konami assigned this tactic.
    Took me about 5 minutes to clear these out of Serie A, and I highly recommend it for a better CPU experience.
    I've been spending way more time in this year's compared to previous years since 2015 and I'm still having fun, the combination of option files and good gameplay keeps me sticking around. I just wish Konami randomized youth squads since they're always the same every ML that's created.
    lhsballa11
    Dove into a Milan ML last night to tide me over before V3.
    One thing for all to check is "deep defensive line". I know it's been talked about, but its shocking how many teams Konami assigned this tactic.
    Took me about 5 minutes to clear these out of Serie A, and I highly recommend it for a better CPU experience.

    I think that's because Konami also did long ball offensive tactics so that deep line is the counter. It's pretty stupid TBH. I'm glad I installed the tactics files by Klashman69, makes playing AI teams way more dynamic.
    I bought a Barca edition. If I bought a second club edition(different team), would that give me a second game or just the other team edition content? Since this is really the only game I like and am enjoying it, I want more master league saves. Wondering if I got another team edition would that do the trick?
    BSDShoes
    I've been spending way more time in this year's compared to previous years since 2015 and I'm still having fun, the combination of option files and good gameplay keeps me sticking around. I just wish Konami randomized youth squads since they're always the same every ML that's created.
    I think that's because Konami also did long ball offensive tactics so that deep line is the counter. It's pretty stupid TBH. I'm glad I installed the tactics files by Klashman69, makes playing AI teams way more dynamic.

    Really expecting tactics to be addressed next year or else I will be really disappointed. There is no excuse for them to be this way when there is a lot of information/data on the internet about team tactics nowadays.
    I started the ML this time with La Liga Smartbank side - Tenerife - a mid-tier second division team. It will be a huge challenge. One reason I did that is (usually I get top 4-6 level teams in first division) I wanted to see how the game mechanics work in lesser teams / leagues. So far i'm really impressed.
    Quite often bad passes, bad crosses, bad shots... How it should be really..
    In the past iterations of PES those teams were playing lilke Barca. Now it's more like midfield battle - physical. When you attempt a tight through pass with a 70 rating attacking midfielder the ball usually end up with defense or out of bounds. Those high level technical plays are only can be done with top players which is 100 % realistic on PES side.
    lareka
    I started the ML this time with La Liga Smartbank side - Tenerife - a mid-tier second division team. It will be a huge challenge. One reason I did that is (usually I get top 4-6 level teams in first division) I wanted to see how the game mechanics work in lesser teams / leagues. So far i'm really impressed.
    Quite often bad passes, bad crosses, bad shots... How it should be really..
    In the past iterations of PES those teams were playing lilke Barca. Now it's more like midfield battle - physical. When you attempt a tight through pass with a 70 rating attacking midfielder the ball usually end up with defense or out of bounds. Those high level technical plays are only can be done with top players which is 100 % realistic on PES side.

    Yeah I always love playing lower tiered teams in ML, usually Birmingham City in SkyBET league. Adds more challenge, I started a ML with Bayern after installing Bundesliga OF and it was a little too easy so I blew that off.
    Appreciate the push from many to use FUMA passing. I took the plunge for the weekend and started to really get the hang of it. It does open the game even more.
    Suddenly, a well placed cross to a leaping header feels SO earned and rewarding.
    Will be continuing FUMA passing (shooting to follow later perhaps), thanks again all.
    lhsballa11
    Appreciate the push from many to use FUMA passing. I took the plunge for the weekend and started to really get the hang of it. It does open the game even more.
    Suddenly, a well placed cross to a leaping header feels SO earned and rewarding.
    Will be continuing FUMA passing (shooting to follow later perhaps), thanks again all.

    Haven't made the jump to manual passing but I'm loving manual shooting. Sure I still either wildly miss or shoot it directly at the keeper to often. When I do get it right and score that goal it's just fantastic. Even the misses feel rewarding.
    lhsballa11
    Appreciate the push from many to use FUMA passing. I took the plunge for the weekend and started to really get the hang of it. It does open the game even more.
    Suddenly, a well placed cross to a leaping header feels SO earned and rewarding.
    Will be continuing FUMA passing (shooting to follow later perhaps), thanks again all.

    It took me many, many, attempts to get onboard with FUMA but trust me, now I’m well and truly onboard I know I will never go back to assisted. The freedom that comes with it makes it so much more enjoyable, rewarding and fulfilling. I still have some horrendous moments but it definitely adds to the fun. It’s taken me two months to get there and even though I’m still on professional atm I’m confident that sometime in the future I will be able to move up a level.
    Once you get there you will know . Enjoy!
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    No one talks about it but PES soundtracks are usually pretty solid this year is no exception. It's not trying too hard just some good tracks that are mostly catchy but not annoying. I haven't had the urge to cut it off like I did with that other games soundtrack.
    I’ve been coerced into full manual passing and I am having a tough time. My possession time has taken a nose dive. I’m finding I’m trying more of a counter attacking/long ball type game now cause I’m having trouble keeping possession. But there is definitely way more freedom though when making through ball type passes. Loving it just having a tough time keeping the ball.
    cfiore99
    I’ve been coerced into full manual passing and I am having a tough time. My possession time has taken a nose dive. I’m finding I’m trying more of a counter attacking/long ball type game now cause I’m having trouble keeping possession. But there is definitely way more freedom though when making through ball type passes. Loving it just having a tough time keeping the ball.

    Don’t forget to use the LT/L2 manual modifier. It really helps in the midfield with shorter/intermediate passes.
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    jrnlgrn
    No one talks about it but PES soundtracks are usually pretty solid this year is no exception. It's not trying too hard just some good tracks that are mostly catchy but not annoying. I haven't had the urge to cut it off like I did with that other games soundtrack.

    I agree. I really liked them. A music comes up on the background and i'm like "whoa, this one actually sounds pretty good".
    So Konami just announced that PES 2021 will be backwards compatible on the PS5. They only mentioned MyClub progress transferring over though.
    I was playing yesterday and the variety in matches just impresses me a lot. The fact that opponents react and (to the extent that they can) change their tactics is great. Just when I think I'm going to crush the other team they switch things up and I'm struggling. Great stuff.
    jrnlgrn
    I was playing yesterday and the variety in matches just impresses me a lot. The fact that opponents react and (to the extent that they can) change their tactics is great. Just when I think I'm going to crush the other team they switch things up and I'm struggling. Great stuff.

    Spot on jrn. I just completed my week 2 Premiere League games and it’s very noticeable how the cpu changes things up depending on how the game is going. Video is uploading very very slowly!
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    cfiore99
    How many minutes is everyone playing for your halves?

    I usually play 10 min halves but might bump it up since I’m going all manual this year.
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    cfiore99
    How many minutes is everyone playing for your halves?

    PES goes by game length and I am using 15 minutes on Full Manual. I was using 12 mins on pass assist 1 but manual needs a little longer as chance creation is less.
    Decide to delete the MLS teams from my game replaced them with Liga MX. Not having the correct competition structure is one of those things I can't get past.
    jrnlgrn
    Decide to delete the MLS teams from my game replaced them with Liga MX. Not having the correct competition structure is one of those things I can't get past.

    Yup, makes me wish Konami allowed competition size bigger than 20, if it can be 26 then all teams can fit in one bracket. I'm from Vancouver so no Whitecaps unless I swap one of the teams for it.
    I feel dumb for not already knowing this but when importing teams in option files you on't have to scroll through the list slowly. Pushing left or right on the left stick (or d-pad) jumps up and down the list quickly.
    I'm guessing that works on any screen where you have to scroll through a list of things
    *slaps forehead*
    jrnlgrn
    I feel dumb for not already knowing this but when importing teams in option files you on't have to scroll through the list slowly. Pushing left or right on the left stick (or d-pad) jumps up and down the list quickly.
    I'm guessing that works on any screen where you have to scroll through a list of things
    *slaps forehead*

    Also pushing (PS) selects all. :D
    Something cool I just noticed for the first time but has probably been there for a while. A player went off the field to get treated by the physios then came back in after getting treatment.
    jrnlgrn
    Something cool I just noticed for the first time but has probably been there for a while. A player went off the field to get treated by the physios then came back in after getting treatment.

    Yes that has been there for quite some time if I remember correctly. Certainly a cool feature.
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    So only one source so far but it sounds like ML saves carry over to next-gen. Download will finish soon so I'll be able to confirm for myself.
    Edit: Confirmed Master League saves carry over to the PS5.
    jrnlgrn
    So only one source so far but it sounds like ML saves carry over to next-gen. Download will finish soon so I'll be able to confirm for myself.
    Edit: Confirmed Master League saves carry over to the PS5.

    How is it on PS5?
    RoyceDa59
    How is it on PS5?
    I didnt get a chance to play an actual game yet. Just tested to make sure ML saves would carry over. Importing the option files took about the same amount of time The menus are more responsive though.
    KG
    Gorgeous!
    How smooth did it feel?

    With limited time put in my initial (possibly over-) reaction is if you think it looks good the gameplay is just as good.
    jrnlgrn
    With limited time put in my initial (possibly over-) reaction is if you think it looks good the gameplay is just as good.

    It feels like when I play PES on PC and that's a great thing!
    RoyceDa59
    I can't believe how much I actually like using Chelsea, so many good dribblers. Ziyech is crazy good and fun to use.

    Maybe my favorite improvement in 21. The slight boost to responsiveness means those tricky wingers are a nightmare for the AI to handle.
    Drawing fouls is an absolute treat, especially when you've got Bruno waiting to bang em top bins.
    Anyone tried playing in hardest difficulty- superstar?
    I switched to it after it became too easy on Top Player. Unlike previous PES games the CPU is not cheating, playing fair on superstar. I played about 6 games on superstar and i am happy with the result. The main difference between top player and superstar is:
    - The CPU presses better, makes you play in tighter spaces, you have to be quicker with your decision making, they press really well.
    -CPU defense is better in terms of not going for simple give and go's, they close the space better

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