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No Official College Licensing in Doug Flutie's Maximum Football 2019

Doug Flutie's Maximum Football 2019

No Official College Licensing in Doug Flutie's Maximum Football 2019

David Winter, president of Canuck Play Inc., has provided an update on the status of official college licensing in Doug Flutie’s Maximum Football 2019.

Unfortunately, we won’t see any official college licenses in the game.

If they received NCAA licensing, the NCAA wanted them to remove all customization. Since it remains unlicensed, Doug Flutie’s Maximum Football 2019 can offer customization.

Read the press release below, along with some additional details from one of the developers, who took some time to answer some of the community questions.

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  1. I personally think they are better off without the license anyways. This allows customization and more freedom for them to do whatever they want within the Dynasty mode. I look at it as win for Canuck play.
    TrustTheProcess
    No Customizing options!?! That definitely won't be good for sales. I can't believe the NCAA does this BS. They make so much money as is. SHARE THE WEALTH!

    I don't want to take this off topic in regards to Madden but several years ago there was an article about how the NFL made EA take things out of Madden. Well considering the lawsuit that happened, I think the NCAA is playing it smart.
    ShowTyme15
    I personally think they are better off without the license anyways. This allows customization and more freedom for them to do whatever they want within the Dynasty mode. I look at it as win for Canuck play.

    THIS 100%. We as gamers crave so much more customization today than we have ever before. NBA2K gives you so much customization when it comes to team name, the city, uploading your own logos for use with relocation, creating arenas from scratch, designing the court, etc. We want that in Madden and other sports games that realistically are handcuffed by the NFL, by the NCAA in this case and even MLB when it comes to The Show that non licensed games is the only road to the level of customization we want in sports game. This is a good thing, can't wait to play this.
    good luck
    with this ncaa letter i fear we will never again see a 130 team video game even if they make a ncaafootball game 5 years from now
    i hope this game makes it
    Could care less about licensing. Eager to get my own college football universe started. This game now has more freedom to be creative, and Spear has some great ideas for this game moving forward.
    NCAA won't do anything until that NCAA group submits it's report in October about using players image and likeness, so this was expected.
    On the other hand, if the NCAA is going to limit the game that much, I would rather play in the fictional universe and have more freedom to do what I want.
    Heck, if they were able to include the ability to carry your dynasty over from one year to the next (like MLB The Show allows you to do), I'm sure a lot of people would try to create a handful of teams one time, then just carry their dynasty over, year to year.
    Ok, well then....
    So please please clear this up for me on file sharing. Since DFMF won't have servers for online file sharing, could users customize the teams after real NCAA teams, then export the file and post on a forum, then have other users download those files and import them into their own DFMF game?
    I ask this because I'm trying to make a decision on just investing in a PS3, finding a copy of EA NCAA Football 14, and just starting from there to feed my hunger for a college football experience on a console.
    dynastymgrguy
    Ok, well then....
    So please please clear this up for me on file sharing. Since DFMF won't have servers for online file sharing, could users customize the teams after real NCAA teams, then export the file and post on a forum, then have other users download those files and import them into their own DFMF game?
    I ask this because I'm trying to make a decision on just investing in a PS3, finding a copy of EA NCAA Football 14, and just starting from there to feed my hunger for a college football experience on a console.

    You can create the teams after real teams or keep all the players generic. It's your choice. The logos will stay generic, but you have over 260 to choose from. You can also change the team names, city etc......
    As far as file sharing goes, if you're on the PS4 you can save files on a USB. As of right now that would be the work around for file sharing. The game itself won't have a file sharing ability.
    ShowTyme15
    You can create the teams after real teams or keep all the players generic. It's your choice. The logos will stay generic, but you have over 260 to choose from. You can also change the team names, city etc......
    As far as file sharing goes, if you're on the PS4 you can save files on a USB. As of right now that would be the work around for file sharing. The game itself won't have a file sharing ability.

    In these 2 videos, the gamer obviously recreated college team logos (good try at least):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG2UXHkGadg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz43WVaaPBU
    There are a lot of talented people on OS who have shown their incredible skills at customization projects. If they recreated the logos and uniforms within their DFMF, could that file be exported and shared via this forum with others... then (for instance), the next user adds some more customization, saves, exports, and passes it on... you get what I mean?
    Is that a solution to have crowd sourcing to achieve customization to build an NCAA Football experience?
    He already told you that on PS4 there will be file sharing as it is a console feature. The game won't officially have a file share feature, but it will be possible on PS4.
    dynastymgrguy
    In these 2 videos, the gamer obviously recreated college team logos (good try at least):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG2UXHkGadg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iz43WVaaPBU
    There are a lot of talented people on OS who have shown their talents at customization projects. If they recreated the logos and uniforms within their DFMF, could that file be exported and shared via this forum with others... then (for instance), the next user adds some more customization, saves, exports, and passes it on... you get what I mean?
    Is that a solution to have crowd sharing to achieve customization to build an NCAA Football experience?

    The PS4 allows game saves to be transferred, so you maybe able to do what you're asking, but only on the PS4.
    EDIT: Canes answered above.
    Just to clarify.
    If they got the NCAA licensing, they wanted them to remove all customization.
    Because it’s unlicensed, they can offer customization.
    canes21
    He already told you that on PS4 there will be file sharing as it is a console feature. The game won't officially have a file share feature, but it will be possible on PS4.

    I asked more than that.... everyone knows you can "save" Ps4 files.
    I asked if it is a reasonable scenario to crowd source a project of customization. Say you did some work on your DFMF then exported, uploaded here, next user downloads, imports, makes additional customization, exports, rinse and repeat...
    I am just asking what his or anyone's thoughts are on that. It's a $200 question for me... believe that there could be enough customization to create an NCAA college football atmosphere, or just drop money on a PS3 and EA NCAA Football to get my fix.
    dynastymgrguy
    I asked more than that.... everyone knows you can "save" Ps4 files.
    I asked if it is a reasonable scenario to crowd source a project of customization. Say you did some work on your DFMF then exported, uploaded here, next user downloads, imports, makes additional customization, exports, rinse and repeat...
    I am just asking what his or anyone's thoughts are on that. It's a $200 question for me... believe that there could be enough customization to create an NCAA college football atmosphere, or just drop money on a PS3 and EA NCAA Football to get my fix.

    Couple of things....
    1. Keep in mind this is an indie title that only has 5 people working on the game. The gameplay will be a little rough around the edges, but as the support grows the game will grow with it. They aren't a 200+ person studio right now.
    2. If you're looking for an NCAA fix you only have 3 options. Buy a PS3 and play one of the old NCAA games. Buy a PC and play the NCAA Mod with limited number of teams (Great mod though). Or you can help grow DFMF and purchase 19.
    ShowTyme15
    Couple of things....
    1. Keep in mind this is an indie title that only has 5 people working on the game. The gameplay will be a little rough around the edges, but as the support grows the game will grow with it. They aren't a 200+ person studio right now.
    2. If you're looking for an NCAA fix you only have 3 options. Buy a PS3 and play one of the old NCAA games. But a PC and play the NCAA Mod with limited number of teams (Great mod though). Or you can help grow DFMF and purchase 19.

    Probably will do both (PS3/old copy of NCAA Football, plus buy DFMF to support it's developer). I'm super excited for the team and their efforts, don't get me wrong.
    dynastymgrguy
    Probably will do both (PS3/old copy of NCAA Football, plus buy DFMF to support it's developer). I'm super excited for the team and their efforts, don't get me wrong.

    Hey man join their Patreon and join the discord server. A couple of developers are in the discord and they answer questions and give out some good information. Patreon members get exclusive content before it's released to the public.
    ShowTyme15
    Hey man join their Patreon and join the discord server man. A couple of developers are in the discord and they answer questions and give out some good information. Patreon members get exclusive content before it's released to the public.

    Alright, I'm a Hall of Fame member of DFMF's Patreon. I've done my part, and am making my contribution, now let's see where this goes...
    TrustTheProcess
    No Customizing options!?! That definitely won't be good for sales. I can't believe the NCAA does this BS. They make so much money as is. SHARE THE WEALTH!

    Been on a call with the NCAA's licensing partners and yes it was suggested to us to remove any ability to edit player's names.....or any customization whatsoever or roster sharing.
    cingelsby
    If they agreed to do what the NCAA was asking for, could there be a game with all of the real teams and but with no customization?

    It would be feasible for us to get a handful of teams but that would be the extent of it. There are a number of schools that have no interest whatsoever. I don't have specific schools that are not interested, that wasn't disclosed to us. Having a fully licensed 130 team game doesn't appear to be in the cards anytime soon for us or EA.
    That's why you are seeing Madden license some teams in Longshot and QB1. We were told that some schools even declined their offer for this type of inclusion in Madden. If all the schools were willing to be on board, then I think EA would put out NCAA Football.
    With no licensing, we are doing our best to put together some good teams! Here are some of them, the full list is on our Patreon.
    Tuscaloosa Stampede

    Fayetteville Boars

    Michigan Majesty
    Spear
    It would be feasible for us to get a handful of teams but that would be the extent of it. There are a number of schools that have no interest whatsoever. I don't have specific schools that are not interested, that wasn't disclosed to us. Having a fully licensed 130 team game doesn't appear to be in the cards anytime soon for us or EA.
    That's why you are seeing Madden license some teams in Longshot and QB1. We were told that some schools even declined their offer for this type of inclusion in Madden. If all the schools were willing to be on board, then I think EA would put out NCAA Football.

    Not to derail the topic too much, but I am interested in what schools those are. It would be interesting to know if it is something like 20 schools are against appearing in a game or if it is more like 50. I know you probably don't have the specifics so I'm not really asking you.
    I also wonder if the Face of the Franchise mode is a first step from EA to get more schools on board and to get their toes back in the water some. That might just be wishful thinking, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. Maybe the more schools EA pulls into the game in the future the more other schools begin to look more into it and things open up.
    canes21
    Not to derail the topic too much, but I am interested in what schools those are. It would be interesting to know if it is something like 20 schools are against appearing in a game or if it is more like 50. I know you probably don't have the specifics so I'm not really asking you.
    I also wonder if the Face of the Franchise mode is a first step from EA to get more schools on board and to get their toes back in the water some. That might just be wishful thinking, but I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. Maybe the more schools EA pulls into the game in the future the more other schools begin to look more into it and things open up.

    Probably wont know the schools as the licensing company won't disclose what schools wanted out. There's a reason EA only has a handful of NCAA teams. Those were probably the only teams that agreed to be in the game. Same goes with 2K. It's a handful of schools.
    Until the NCAA decides to allow compensation for players I highly doubt we see a full fledged licensed game and if it is fully licensed there probably will be no roster sharing and no customization like the old PS1 NCAA games.
    At least we have an alternative now in DFMF.
    ShowTyme15
    Probably wont know the schools as the licensing company won't disclose what schools wanted out. There's a reason EA only has a handful of NCAA teams. Those were probably the only teams that agreed to be in the game. Same goes with 2K. It's a handful of schools.
    Until the NCAA decides to allow compensation for players I highly doubt we see a full fledged licensed game and if it is fully licensed there probably will be no roster sharing and no customization like the old PS1 NCAA games.
    At least we have an alternative now in DFMF.

    I don't meam to take us further off topic but what is the big appeal with customization in sports gaming? I would be happy to give up the ability to customize logos and uniforms as use a completely random un shareable roster if it means brining college football back.
    The Black Redneck
    I don't meam to take us further off topic but what is the big appeal with customization in sports gaming? I would be happy to give up the ability to customize logos and uniforms as use a completely random un shareable roster if it means brining college football back.

    Even if it were licensed, they are suggesting no player names in the game, generic faces, no accessories, no tattoos, etc, etc.
    I think that's where the concern is. Even if licensing is feasible for 130 FBS teams, it's going to be a watered down game.
    Spear
    Even if it were licensed, they are suggesting no player names in the game, generic faces, no accessories, no tattoos, etc, etc.
    I think that's where the concern is. Even if licensing is feasible for 130 FBS teams, it's going to be a watered down game.

    Not even generic names?
    The Black Redneck
    Not even generic names?

    Correct.....
    They said no names whatsoever would be preferred.
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    I am very excited for a fully fictional college universe. I am finding this far more exciting than the same old same old.
    Looking forward to purchasing and supporting this title.
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    mkharsh33
    Ed O'Bannon really screwed us over.....

    Wasn't there some other nobody along with him that got all this garbage started?
    Edit: I believe it was Sam Keller.
    TerryP
    Wasn't there some other nobody along with him that got all this garbage started?
    Edit: I believe it was Sam Keller.
    What's ridiculous about the whole thing is that generationally I think things are so different with college athletes now.
    Today's college athletes won't scream at the Supreme Court to give them money for being in a video game. I feel like they'd be so hyped to be playing themselves in the game they really wouldn't care. I can't imagine a guy like Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields or Jerry Jeudy doing this in 2019. Most of these guys grew up with video games, especially college video games and loved them. I'm a part of these guys' age group so I don't think I'm yelling at the sky here
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    I'm actually totally fine with this as long as 1. The gameplay is reasonably good 2. A strong roster and logo customization base grows among the fanbase, particularly on OS.
    NCAA 14 is great, but I'm itching to play a newer game to get my college football fix in every season.
    ShowTyme15
    I personally think they are better off without the license anyways. This allows customization and more freedom for them to do whatever they want within the Dynasty mode. I look at it as win for Canuck play.

    I disagree. Why because even they are not a licensed game because the fear of lawsuit they are still dictating many rules for de developer, so we end up with a NCAA restricted game without the good freedom that comes from unlicensed product.
    booker21
    I disagree. Why because even they are not a licensed game because the fear of lawsuit they are still dictating many rules for de developer, so we end up with a NCAA restricted game without the good freedom that comes from unlicensed product.

    With a licensed game there will be a bunch of restrictions. No customization, no names for players, no roster sharing.
    With an unlicensed game they have freedom to do whatever without any NCAA restrictions.
    this is a win for canuck play......licenses are overrated anyways. just give us the tools (like nba 2k) so we can create our own college teams or pro league. just concentrate on making good  graphics and gameplay. the game will sell itself. all a license does is restrict what can't be put in the game.
    To be honest I extremely cool with that. If the game is fully customizable then we def have a community thst can do some awesome things. What this really tells me is if we are to ever see another college football game made by the other company, we will not be able to edit anything at all; and im not even sure id want to play a game that cannot he edited. Im standing behind you guys 100%.
    Roster sharing and online functionality is a big task for one guy to develop. It won't be there for September but hopefully, the game has enough sales momentum in the fall that we can tackle this down the road and add more developers to help.
    Just going through Twitter and saw the latest tweet about Dynamic attendance being in the game. Here's where the upside is with no license and how the NFL is hurting Madden as well.
    Canuck Play: "Added dynamic stadium attendance to vary the spectator count based on team performance."
    Reply 1: "Dynamic Stadium Attendance adds so much immersion. Madden had it one year and took it out."
    Canuck Play: "The NFL required that all stadiums be full".
    https://twitter.com/CanuckGS/status/1145092019464880128
    Such a big win for it to not be licensed. Imagine if this game had the NCAA license and full teams and come to find out all customization options had to be removed as a sacrifice to having the license. Would have been such a disappointment.
    Seems like a lot of the customization and file sharing issues would be solved if there were a PC version. Don't really understand why they deserted the PC market-I thought that's where they got their start? Sad.
    Eyeman79
    Seems like a lot of the customization and file sharing issues would be solved if there were a PC version. Don't really understand why they deserted the PC market-I thought that's where they got their start? Sad.

    You totally underestimate the challenges in PC development compared to consoles. Think of all the support differences required on a PC title compared to a system that are all the same.
    TheBleedingRed21
    You totally underestimate the challenges in PC development compared to consoles. Think of all the support differences required on a PC title compared to a system that are all the same.

    Exactly. There was a ton of support required for Canadian Football 2017 on PC. We have even more momentum and we still only have one backend developer.
    It’s people’s rigs not being powerful enough, controllers not working, drivers not being updated, etc, etc.
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