MLB The Show 21
MLB The Show 21 Quick Q&A Video - March to October & Franchise Mode
Sony San Diego has posted a quick MLB The Show 21 Q&A session with Coach and Ramone, as they go over some March to October and Franchise Mode questions from the community. You can watch the video below, but we’ve also listed some of the key points.
- MTO will still give points to Team Affinity, rewards have been increased
- New logic has been introduced to make March to October more exciting, more fair and more in line with the regular season experience
- Unfortunately, you can’t play multiple seasons in March to October this year
- Updated commentary has been implemented in special episodes of March to October (ex. Opening Day, Postseason and World Series)
- There have been changes and upgrades to lineup and rotation logic, as it stays more true to the user settings this year
- Trade logic has been tuned and reworked, more information on that soon
- You can use Stadium Creator in Franchise Mode (Next-Gen Exclusive Feature)
- Budget systems have been changed from a weekly to yearly system in Franchise Mode, logic has been improved
- The depth chart screen, as seen in the Diamond Dynasty teaser video, will be in franchise mode as well as March to October (screenshot below)
- There are plenty of new improvements to contract negotiations, call-ups and send downs. You’ll need to wait for the Feature Premiere to find out.
The March to October and Franchise Mode Feature Premiere is set to arrive Thursday at 6:00 PM ET, so keep your eyes open for that.

Call up/send down and contract negotiation logic improved
New depth chart is in franchise mode
Call up/send down and contract negotiation logic improved
New depth chart is in franchise mode
Nothing on lineup and bullpen logic?
There are additions and changes.
It was changed as well, but it was tied to a MTO question, so I don't want to say that its changed for franchise, but I would assume it would be.
Ok thanks... I sure hope so but we'll see.
Guessing we aren't getting expanded rosters, would think that would have come up.
Call up/send down and contract negotiation logic improved
New depth chart is in franchise mode
Which video was this shown in before? I missed it.
MTO video awhile back.
Guessing we aren't getting expanded rosters, would think that would have come up.
Yeah we may not be.
But I'm intrigued to hear more about the contract negotiation logic in the stream. And the changes to budget logic and improvements.
Unless the logic has improved in franchise mode tremendously, I don't see any reason for me to get 21. It's a shame that even though baseball and football are my number 1 and 2 favorite sports, I end up buying and playing 2k for my sports fix because EA and SCEA have a target audience that I'm apparently not a part of. Fortunately us baseball fans have OOTP as an alternative if we desire well made franchise mode that has depth and competent AI.
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I'm guessing it could be the changes to budget going back to yearly from weekly as well as the logic changes being made.
Hard to say what under the hood changes may have led to Y2Y saves being omitted, if they indeed are the reason.
Hope to hear whether Y2Y saves return in the stream on Thursday.
But I'm intrigued to hear more about the contract negotiation logic in the stream. And the changes to budget logic and improvements.
I love logic being improved. That is always a good thing. Under the hood that benefits everyone.
That being said, I am tired of logic being shown as the best new feature in franchise mode. Thats not a feature. That is an improvement on something already there.
The audacity by SDS to have the stream on opening day and have this as the promotion for franchise. Yuck.
However, my "deeply skeptical" mode remains engaged.
That being said, I am tired of logic being shown as the best new feature in franchise mode. Thats not a feature. That is an improvement on something already there.
The audacity by SDS to have the stream on opening day and have this as the promotion for franchise. Yuck.
Honestly I think OD and franchise stream on the same day is just a coincidence.
However, my "deeply skeptical" mode remains engaged.
Yeah when Ramone mentioned that it was too much to go into detail at the moment and would be explained fully in the stream, my ears perked up.
I was expecting him to say yes the logic has changed and leave it at that, but was surprised they feel as though the changes are extensive enough to be fully discussed in the stream.
I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters, but either way I'm intrigued to hear more about all the logic updates.
That being said, I am tired of logic being shown as the best new feature in franchise mode. Thats not a feature. That is an improvement on something already there.
The audacity by SDS to have the stream on opening day and have this as the promotion for franchise. Yuck.
When your additions list each year is basically fine tuning changes that should be made at minimum each year, it shows how low of a priority the mode has become. Their other big changes so far are reverting the contracts back to an annual view like it used to be and how it should have always remained, and then a graphics update with a new depth chart.
Hopefully something larger is in store for Thursday, but what we have to talk about at the moment is nothing short of disappointing, in my opinion of course.
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The response at the end to contract negotiations/call-ups/send-downs being "it's too complicated to discuss here" intrigues me.
This suggests they may have done something a bit more than mere window dressing.
That said, "different" does not mean "better"; so my optimism is still rather guarded...
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I was expecting him to say yes the logic has changed and leave it at that, but was surprised they feel as though the changes are extensive enough to be fully discussed in the stream.
I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters, but either way I'm intrigued to hear more about all the logic updates.
I don't know if it leads to expanded rosters either. If those had been added to the game; one would think that they would have brought it up in the RTTS stream (i.e. Playable A-ball). That said, could they roll that out in the Next Gen stream? Maaaayyyybbbbeeee....
(I personally have the odds of us seeing expanded rosters for this year's game at 1:50)
The response at the end to contract negotiations/call-ups/send-downs being "it's too complicated to discuss here" intrigues me.
This suggests they may have done something a bit more than mere window dressing.
That said, "different" does not mean "better"; so my optimism is still rather guarded...
may as well implicate changes to players progression. Interesting.
(I personally have the odds of us seeing expanded rosters for this year's game at 1:50)
Re-working the budget and contract negotiation along with their mentioning preparing for the future, or however its worded, has me holding onto to hope that expanded rosters are indeed in the game, for franchise mode.
While it being stated in RTTS about starting in A ball would've been an all be certainty, the fact that it wasn't mentioned doesn't completely eliminate it, since the additional roster spots are for non-playable games (ie Single A ball but players don't play games nor accumulate stats like the 10 "bonus spots" currently)
While I'm now losing hope that expanded rosters are in, I'm most certainly intrigued by the changes mentioned to budget, contracts and call up and send down, that I'm looking at my personal wishlist in regards to those things in hopes that some of my wishes can finally be crossed off the list. :D
Unless the logic has improved in franchise mode tremendously, I don't see any reason for me to get 21. It's a shame that even though baseball and football are my number 1 and 2 favorite sports, I end up buying and playing 2k for my sports fix because EA and SCEA have a target audience that I'm apparently not a part of. Fortunately us baseball fans have OOTP as an alternative if we desire well made franchise mode that has depth and competent AI.
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2K progression breaks like 2 years into the game haha. The progression is totally busted and without 30 team control and constantly editing rosters, MyLeague turns into a mess of dumb rosters and goofed up ratings (plus the obvious contract issues, dudes never wanting to sign off rookie deals, etc. etc.)
But if you're saying it's not due to franchise mode specifically and the vibes 2K is trying to pull off, then fair enough. 2K does try to add stuff to franchise mode -- and does technically add more stuff than anyone else so you can give applause for effort -- but it's a broken mess.
(And this isn't to defend The Show because they've obviously failed in the franchise mode department in recent years, I just thought it was weird to say 2K hits the spot when I have not been able to get like even 3 years into an enjoyable franchise in 2K for a couple years now due to major, major issues that are such a pain to manage -- and are as obvious as they ever have been this year -- which sucks because it's my most played game every year due to being an NBA fiend.)
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This and it being on April fools have been brought up so many times. It doesn’t matter. They did every Thursday and this stream happened to land on April 1st opening day
Here you go
https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/mlb-show/982920-mlb-show-21-five-things-we-want-franchise-mode.html
While it being stated in RTTS about starting in A ball would've been an all be certainty, the fact that it wasn't mentioned doesn't completely eliminate it, since the additional roster spots are for non-playable games (ie Single A ball but players don't play games nor accumulate stats like the 10 "bonus spots" currently)
While I'm now losing hope that expanded rosters are in, I'm most certainly intrigued by the changes mentioned to budget, contracts and call up and send down, that I'm looking at my personal wishlist in regards to those things in hopes that some of my wishes can finally be crossed off the list. :D
One other thing...a significant budget and logic re-work could very well not mesh with Y2Y saves....with or without roster expansion....
Agreed.
*10 char*
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I hope so but we have seen things added only to MTO and not franchise, i.e. trade hub... Franchise badly needs bullpen logic upgrades especially since teams bullpens can go 9 deep irl.
So idk fellas.
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So idk fellas.
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I found that odd as well. He made sure to mention both on some things, and not both on others. So I may have more questions than answers haha.
So idk fellas.
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I'm pretty sure the logic was REALLY bad in MtO...like REALLY bad. Like them being reset and stuff...
Interesting.... I don't think is good in franchise either tho, some really questionable lineups at times... And bullpen logic is bad as well, some guys getting no work and others getting overused.
So improvements would be welcome.
But if you're saying it's not due to franchise mode specifically and the vibes 2K is trying to pull off, then fair enough. 2K does try to add stuff to franchise mode -- and does technically add more stuff than anyone else so you can give applause for effort -- but it's a broken mess.
(And this isn't to defend The Show because they've obviously failed in the franchise mode department in recent years, I just thought it was weird to say 2K hits the spot when I have not been able to get like even 3 years into an enjoyable franchise in 2K for a couple years now due to major, major issues that are such a pain to manage -- and are as obvious as they ever have been this year -- which sucks because it's my most played game every year due to being an NBA fiend.)
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2) Completely rebuild CPU pitching staff logic. I shouldn't face the same 2 relievers all series. An injury to a SP shouldn't break the CPU and lead to me getting 3 gifted wins because the LR pitcher throws 280 pitchers in a 3 day series.
3) Completely revamp the draft once rosters are expanded.
4) Build a new progression system that is actually dynamic. Every player practically follows the same exact progression arc. All A potentials progress the same, all B's progress then same with very little variety. You can take 10 players with the same ratings and the same potentials, sim 10 franchises, and those 10 players will practically progress the exact same every single sim. There are no busts, no late bloomers, it's way too generic.
4) This should really be the only thing I wrote. Look at OOTP and literally copy everything they do and then tack your on-field gameplay onto it. Nothing more is needed. OOTP is the pinnacle of franchise modes.
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I honestly feel franchise was better when we had the newspaper, ability to set ticket prices etc.. The world just felt more alive.
-no rotating interleague schedules
-no non roster invitees
-poor moral system
-the league feels dead, radio wrap up just doesnt work IMO. Lack of social media.. just something!
-AI bullpen logic
Why in the world would a Q&A video talk about any mode in detail? All these videos have been small easy to answer questions.
I honestly feel franchise was better when we had the newspaper, ability to set ticket prices etc.. The world just felt more alive.
-no rotating interleague schedules
-no non roster invitees
-poor moral system
-the league feels dead, radio wrap up just doesnt work IMO. Lack of social media.. just something!
-AI bullpen logic
1) rotating schedules - check, yes
2) NRI's - check, yes
3) ON/OFF morale option - check, yes
4) revamped Radio Show, Tony Bruno/Madden-style - check, yes
5) 30 different ways to setup bullpen logic - check, yes
6) newspaper sports section to read - check, yes
7) set ticket prices, rent billboards, set sell hotdogs prices (or popcorn or coke or sushi or Colorado Rockies mountain oysters) and bobblehead give-away - check, yes
but more social media, no thank-you, no way, no how. I hated the Tweeter being introduced into the Show. don't have use for the Bookface, Instagran, Yelp, Utube, Tik-tik or the like :mad: I'll allow Telegraph but that's it lol
If they balanced budgets to reflect real salaries that would be game changing for me.
As always the devil is in the "details." I don't need fluff, give me quality changes and bug fixes that have needed to be addressed in a long time.
Budget fixes will help fix trade logic. Currently teams don't value certain players due to the salary they make being considered way too high.
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Why in the world would a Q&A video talk about any mode in detail? All these videos have been small easy to answer questions.
2) Completely rebuild CPU pitching staff logic. I shouldn't face the same 2 relievers all series. An injury to a SP shouldn't break the CPU and lead to me getting 3 gifted wins because the LR pitcher throws 280 pitchers in a 3 day series.
3) Completely revamp the draft once rosters are expanded.
4) Build a new progression system that is actually dynamic. Every player practically follows the same exact progression arc. All A potentials progress the same, all B's progress then same with very little variety. You can take 10 players with the same ratings and the same potentials, sim 10 franchises, and those 10 players will practically progress the exact same every single sim. There are no busts, no late bloomers, it's way too generic.
4) This should really be the only thing I wrote. Look at OOTP and literally copy everything they do and then tack your on-field gameplay onto it. Nothing more is needed. OOTP is the pinnacle of franchise modes.
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I like everything he has in his so instead of retyping them I figured I'd quote him and then say some of my other ideas I hope to see.
1. Custom draft classes. I highly doubt we'll get them but this is a long over due feature.
2. Rain outs with rescheduled double headers. Again, this one is long over due but isn't as widely requested so I doubt I'll get this one either. Expanded rosters for double headers would be a must as well.
3. Rotating interleague schedule in multiyear franchises. I can't believe this is a request I'm still having to ask for.
4. Team records added to Dynasty. Would be nice to try and beat some team records in addition to the MLB recorders.
5. Expansion teams. I doubt we'll see this one this year. Give it a year but worth adding to the list.
6. Single A teams. Time to actually add in the single A teams.
7. Playoff rosters including a 4 man rotation option.
8. International Free Agents - Would be another fun add.
9. Fine tuned injury logic
10. Better Free agent negotiations.
oh, I definitely hated when they started removing things, I want additions to the game.
I don't want to them to play the smoke-&-mirror-replacement/shell game with features
There are many of us diehards that 100% agree with you. That doesn't mean we don't want improvement, but it also means that we understand that franchise mode in this series is a gameplay-driven franchise mode; not a menu screen-driven one. That is NOT for everyone; but that has been SDS' approach to this mode for years and I personally am 100% on-board with that approach.
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I'm glad that they're finally going back to yearly budgets, the weekly cash flow stuff made no sense to anyone. I'm also curious what changes they made to calling up and sending down players.
Despite the lack of "big changes" to the mode, I would consider Create-a-Stadium a Franchise feature, and that alone is worth the purchase to me.
I personally feel that making trades, doing the draft, signing free agents, and all of that GM related stuff is all gameplay as well, but I don't get the sense that is what you mean when you say gameplay since you also reference menu driven and that is where I'd assume you would put those kind of things.
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While I would agree that OOTP features in the show is not going to happen, that does not mean that the team can't strive for better guts inside the franchise mode.
I have said it before, the Show has the worst franchise mode in sports. To me, that is not acceptable being a baseball game where revenue, concessions, budget, etc is more important in baseball than any other sport.
People may not like the madden franchise and how it is (XP/MORALE), but it does have more depth, and more to play with. It has an owner mode and even though it is not great, and could be refined, it is in. Same with NHL, NBA, and Fifa.
I am drafting prospects in the show every year with A potential and they come in at 45-50 overall. They won't EVER see the bigs. It is commonplace all over the draft.
I hate having to go in as the user and "fix" the league each year on ratings, lineups, rotations, contracts, trades, etc. An abundance of things. I am tired of it, and sure as hell hope Thursday has SOMETHING more.
Maybe, just maybe they lumped closers and relievers into one... I don't believe closer is listed on that DC screen??
I'm glad that they're finally going back to yearly budgets, the weekly cash flow stuff made no sense to anyone. I'm also curious what changes they made to calling up and sending down players.
Despite the lack of "big changes" to the mode, I would consider Create-a-Stadium a Franchise feature, and that alone is worth the purchase to me.
I would NOT consider create a stadium a franchise feature. Or at least that was not the intention.
This may be nit-picky but SDS did the same thing with the "rebrand" feature last year in franchise.
All they did was take the DD uniform creator and plopped it in franchise. The stadium creator was something that benefits franchise, but I am sure it'll be all over DD and be highlighted as such. I see it very similarly as the rebrand feature.
Maybe that's me bashing to much, but I can't help that is how I see it. It is painfully obvious to me.
They are re-using assets to plop in franchise in order to call them new features. Stadium creator was coming regardless. It is awesome, hats off to them.
I have said it before, the Show has the worst franchise mode in sports. To me, that is not acceptable being a baseball game where revenue, concessions, budget, etc is more important in baseball than any other sport.
People may not like the madden franchise and how it is (XP/MORALE), but it does have more depth, and more to play with. It has an owner mode and even though it is not great, and could be refined, it is in. Same with NHL, NBA, and Fifa.
I am drafting prospects in the show every year with A potential and they come in at 45-50 overall. They won't EVER see the bigs. It is commonplace all over the draft.
I hate having to go in as the user and "fix" the league each year on ratings, lineups, rotations, contracts, trades, etc. An abundance of things. I am tired of it, and sure as hell hope Thursday has SOMETHING more.
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This may be nit-picky but SDS did the same thing with the "rebrand" feature last year in franchise.
All they did was take the DD uniform creator and plopped it in franchise. The stadium creator was something that benefits franchise, but I am sure it'll be all over DD and be highlighted as such. I see it very similarly as the rebrand feature.
Maybe that's me bashing to much, but I can't help that is how I see it. It is painfully obvious to me.
They are re-using assets to plop in franchise in order to call them new features. Stadium creator was coming regardless. It is awesome, hats off to them.
If it's a legitimate feature that applies and adds to franchise (as I think most of us can agree Stadium Creator does), why does it matter how it came about in the development process?
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I personally feel that making trades, doing the draft, signing free agents, and all of that GM related stuff is all gameplay as well, but I don't get the sense that is what you mean when you say gameplay since you also reference menu driven and that is where I'd assume you would put those kind of things.
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Since I agree with Josh's thought (providing I'm right in what he means)…..
The Show is a gameplay driven franchise where the goal of the mode is for you to play out your GM decisions (trades, drafts, signings, etc...) on the field versus that of micro-managing your roster/organization in menus (ex: OOTP text based game)
Of course all us diehard franchise/baseball nuts would love to have the depth of OOTP off the field coupled with the gameplay on the field in MLBTS, but I don't foresee that ever happening, because well that's not in a sense not feasible because the game has to "cater" (lack of better word at the moment) to a vast array of different people within its community/fan base (RTTS, DD, Online, etc...)
That's not to say that the franchise mode isn't growing long in the tooth, nor that they shouldn't strive to continuously add more and more depth, but at the end of the day, one expecting the level of depth of OOTP inside MLBTS is going to always be disappointed, in my humble opinion of course.
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While I would be head over heels in love with SCEA taking OOTP and making that their franchise mode, I know it isn't happening. That doesn't mean that game shouldn't be referenced continuously whenever ideas for franchise mode are talked about. That game literally is the mecca when it comes to franchise modes and it is perfectly reasonable to point to it and say The Show needs this or that from the game.
We are clearly not going to get every year of baseball history as a playable beginning in franchise mode like OOTP offers, but why shouldn't we say The Show needs international free agency and a more robust coaching system like OOTP offers? We won't get the numerous playable foreign leagues OOTP offers, but I should be able to point out the different customization setting OOTP has surrounding progression, regression, trading, player values, etc. and say The Show would benefit from implementing those types of options.
It is unrealistic to ask for the entirety of OOTP to be added to The Show. That's true. It's not crazy, unrealistic, illogical, etc. to look at what features OOTP offers in a modern day MLB franchise save and say that The Show should be implementing the majority of those features. Just because The Show has gameplay on the field you can interact with does not excuse it for lacking so many basic things. I should be able to send cash over in a trade like OOTP. That's a very very very common thing that happens in baseball that SCEA has never tried to replicate.
The morale/chemistry system The Show has is very basic and done poorly. We should be able to say look how OOTP handles it, strive for something similar. Too often people excuse The Show because it has on field gameplay as if that somehow makes it impossible for them to add all of the "menu driven" things OOTP offers. That's not how this works. The Show is not built in some unique way that makes it impossible to have the depth OOTP has. It's simply a design choice and people are only asking that SCEA change their approach some and show Franchise mode some true love by bringing over ideas from OOTP because that game is the king of kings with regards to franchise modes.
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While I would be head over heels in love with SCEA taking OOTP and making that their franchise mode, I know it isn't happening. That doesn't mean that game shouldn't be referenced continuously whenever ideas for franchise mode are talked about. That game literally is the mecca when it comes to franchise modes and it is perfectly reasonable to point to it and say The Show needs this or that from the game.
We are clearly not going to get every year of baseball history as a playable beginning in franchise mode like OOTP offers, but why shouldn't we say The Show needs international free agency and a more robust coaching system like OOTP offers? We won't get the numerous playable foreign leagues OOTP offers, but I should be able to point out the different customization setting OOTP has surrounding progression, regression, trading, player values, etc. and say The Show would benefit from implementing those types of options.
It is unrealistic to ask for the entirety of OOTP to be added to The Show. That's true. It's not crazy, unrealistic, illogical, etc. to look at what features OOTP offers in a modern day MLB franchise save and say that The Show should be implementing the majority of those features. Just because The Show has gameplay on the field you can interact with does not excuse it for lacking so many basic things. I should be able to send cash over in a trade like OOTP. That's a very very very common thing that happens in baseball that SCEA has never tried to replicate.
The morale/chemistry system The Show has is very basic and done poorly. We should be able to say look how OOTP handles it, strive for something similar. Too often people excuse The Show because it has on field gameplay as if that somehow makes it impossible for them to add all of the "menu driven" things OOTP offers. That's not how this works. The Show is not built in some unique way that makes it impossible to have the depth OOTP has. It's simply a design choice and people are only asking that SCEA change their approach some and show Franchise mode some true love by bringing over ideas from OOTP because that game is the king of kings with regards to franchise modes.
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The Show is a gameplay driven franchise where the goal of the mode is for you to play out your GM decisions (trades, drafts, signings, etc...) on the field versus that of micro-managing your roster/organization in menus (ex: OOTP text based game)
Of course all us diehard franchise/baseball nuts would love to have the depth of OOTP off the field coupled with the gameplay on the field in MLBTS, but I don't foresee that ever happening, because well that's not in a sense not feasible because the game has to "cater" (lack of better word at the moment) to a vast array of different people within its community/fan base (RTTS, DD, Online, etc...)
That's not to say that the franchise mode isn't growing long in the tooth, nor that they shouldn't strive to continuously add more and more depth, but at the end of the day, one expecting the level of depth of OOTP inside MLBTS is going to always be disappointed, in my humble opinion of course.
We're not saying give us the ability to play any year in baseball history, give us every single historical draft class, give us every foreign league there is, and make all of that playable in franchise mode. That would be lovely if that ever became a reality. We are saying look at how OOTP has a wear and tear system and injury histories matter, give us that type of detail in The Show. We are saying look at how we can fine tune progression and regression in OOTP. Allow us to do that in The Show.
Those are all features that would translate over fine into a non-text sim sports game. The Show has a very shallow franchise mode because it lacks a lot of features like that that would immediately give it depth and are not a part of the daunting spreadsheet simulator side of OOTP.
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We're not saying give us the ability to play any year in baseball history, give us every single historical draft class, give us every foreign league there is, and make all of that playable in franchise mode. That would be lovely if that ever became a reality. We are saying look at how OOTP has a wear and tear system and injury histories matter, give us that type of detail in The Show. We are saying look at how we can fine tune progression and regression in OOTP. Allow us to do that in The Show.
Those are all features that would translate over fine into a non-text sim sports game. The Show has a very shallow franchise mode because it lacks a lot of features like that that would immediately give it depth and are not a part of the daunting spreadsheet simulator side of OOTP.
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Yeah I understand that, I was trying my best to answer your question about the term gameplay driven franchise
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I hope they do answer the question about when/if Y2Y will return.
Roster importing seems like a long shot if they cannot handle the budget changes. Hard to say without hearing from the developers themselves.
I am all for giving up Y2Y for a few seasons if it means they can continue to improve franchise mode on next gen. It is important to expand the rosters IMO to really unleash franchise mode to a better place in terms of AI logic, and robust scouting and drafting options with a bigger farm system at our disposal.
Let’s see what it all looks like Thursday.
But then again this makes the deletion of Season mode all the more confusing. I don’t know 🤷🏻*♂️
Also Y2Y saves are basically a database, so with crossplay, saves should be able to go to Xbox.
Also Y2Y saves are basically a database, so with crossplay, saves should be able to go to Xbox.
I'm leaning more and more everyday corona and extra work on next-gen consoles not to mention the old xbox flat-lined all the Studios time, leaving none for y2y
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If they balanced budgets to reflect real salaries that would be game changing for me.
As always the devil is in the "details." I don't need fluff, give me quality changes and bug fixes that have needed to be addressed in a long time.
Budget fixes will help fix trade logic. Currently teams don't value certain players due to the salary they make being considered way too high.
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Franchise mode can definitely use new features like expanded rosters, but if they went and did some real work on under the hood stuff that’s just as if not more important then any features they could’ve added in my opinion.
I said before that without major changes to franchise 21 would only be worth buying if they made some real CPU logic improvements, and it seems there’s a decent chance they have done that. I know it’s not enough for everyone, but personally I’ll take that and stadium creator and be happy for the year.
They say they've made changes to the AI, but I guess that is quite easy to say, whether it's meaningful or positive remains to be seen. Fingers crossed, but there's not been much in the past decade to pin your hopes on when it comes to SDS and decent AI, it's not been an area of strength at all.
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Franchise mode can definitely use new features like expanded rosters, but if they went and did some real work on under the hood stuff that’s just as if not more important then any features they could’ve added in my opinion.
I said before that without major changes to franchise 21 would only be worth buying if they made some real CPU logic improvements, and it seems there’s a decent chance they have done that. I know it’s not enough for everyone, but personally I’ll take that and stadium creator and be happy for the ]year.
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I am sure those that purchase day one will test the crap out of the touted logic improvements (talking to you Tbarnes!!).
I am really pining for more on top of that though.
Y2Y coming back
Expanded Rosters
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I personally feel that making trades, doing the draft, signing free agents, and all of that GM related stuff is all gameplay as well, but I don't get the sense that is what you mean when you say gameplay since you also reference menu driven and that is where I'd assume you would put those kind of things.
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Let me put it like this. This is my equally un-snarky response (and I know from our past discussions, that we have widely differing views here - which is cool, I'm just acknowledging that).
When I play MLBTS franchise - I spend 90-95% of my total time in the mode playing the actual games (5-10% in the menu screens); equating to about 5-10 minutes per game. For my tastes, that's an ideal percentage and how I would define a "gameplay-driven" or "in-game driven" franchise.
If you keep adding to that percentage of time in the menu screens, you're taking time away from a) what this game does the best (on-field gameplay) and b) the entire point of the game - which is to play baseball.
That's where adding stuff "for the sake of adding it" or just because it "mimics real life" doesn't necessarily make the mode better. Adding an international draft, for example, may be more "realistic". But it doesn't make the mode "better"; it's just another means of adding more players to the player pool (which the current system already does). The stadium/rebranding creator is the same thing; it doesn't make the mode 'better' (barring SDS actually incorporating stadium seating/city demographics to team budget calcs). A lot of stuff could be added that's all "window dressing", and while some of that is helpful, that's not the stuff I'd want to see focused on.
Now contrast that with something like adding better player development mechanics. This might be something where you're forced to play players out-of-position to accrue innings at a new position to gain familiarity with a position in order to add to his eligible positions. This is a menu screen decision that has a number of TANGIBLE impacts when you play the actual games (you have to deal with possible errors for a guy playing OOP, you get more strategy in terms of how and when to implement certain lineups, etc.). That's an addition that enhances the overall mode as it connects the "menu screen" decisions with the in-game. THOSE are the kinds of additions that will add wide-scale immersion and enhance the overall experience.
Aside from adding in needed AI adjustments (including roster expansion), where this mode needs to develop is in continuing to add elements that connect the in-game experience and then menu-screen experience. You shouldn't HAVE to go to a menu to see who is on the trade block, it should be discussed in-game. You shouldn't have to find out about a major deal in the menu screens, it should be in-game. That's what connects you to the larger world that your team is in. Franchise mode is about the overall experience and the connection of both the high level elements with the in-game elements.
I hope this makes some sense in at least explaining where I'm coming from.
I would still tend to think some type work would be needed to make it compatible with xbox, next-gen xbox and ps5
When I play MLBTS franchise - I spend 90-95% of my total time in the mode playing the actual games (5-10% in the menu screens); equating to about 5-10 minutes per game. For my tastes, that's an ideal percentage and how I would define a "gameplay-driven" or "in-game driven" franchise.
If you keep adding to that percentage of time in the menu screens, you're taking time away from a) what this game does the best (on-field gameplay) and b) the entire point of the game - which is to play baseball.
That's where adding stuff "for the sake of adding it" or just because it "mimics real life" doesn't necessarily make the mode better. Adding an international draft, for example, may be more "realistic". But it doesn't make the mode "better"; it's just another means of adding more players to the player pool (which the current system already does). The stadium/rebranding creator is the same thing; it doesn't make the mode 'better' (barring SDS actually incorporating stadium seating/city demographics to team budget calcs). A lot of stuff could be added that's all "window dressing", and while some of that is helpful, that's not the stuff I'd want to see focused on.
Now contrast that with something like adding better player development mechanics. This might be something where you're forced to play players out-of-position to accrue innings at a new position to gain familiarity with a position in order to add to his eligible positions. This is a menu screen decision that has a number of TANGIBLE impacts when you play the actual games (you have to deal with possible errors for a guy playing OOP, you get more strategy in terms of how and when to implement certain lineups, etc.). That's an addition that enhances the overall mode as it connects the "menu screen" decisions with the in-game. THOSE are the kinds of additions that will add wide-scale immersion and enhance the overall experience.
Aside from adding in needed AI adjustments (including roster expansion), where this mode needs to develop is in continuing to add elements that connect the in-game experience and then menu-screen experience. You shouldn't HAVE to go to a menu to see who is on the trade block, it should be discussed in-game. You shouldn't have to find out about a major deal in the menu screens, it should be in-game. That's what connects you to the larger world that your team is in. Franchise mode is about the overall experience and the connection of both the high level elements with the in-game elements.
I hope this makes some sense in at least explaining where I'm coming from.
I would love to see them bring over the system OOTP has where you can play a guy out of position and that's how they will improve at the new position. I'm glad you brought this up because this is the kind of stuff I love about OOTP that I wish was in The Show. I don't want to have to go edit a player to have him play a new position, I also don't want to force to AI to play a guy in a different position. I'd like there to be a system already in place where a guy learns on the job when playing out of position AND the CPU has logic built in that helps them pick and choose who they want learning new spots and why. I also would love to see it be like OOTP where not every 3rd baseman will learn 1st base the same. Some guys pick it up fine, others are helpless. That kind of variety is what brings flavor to the game and it represents real life where everyone is different.
I also think a wear and tear system with injury memory/history impacts the on field gameplay experience because when in game you have to make decisions with the info you have regarding your players past health issues. I think it would greatly enhance the on field gameplay to have to make critical decisions like thinking about pulling a pitcher because of his recent arm issues. I'd love to know that my SS has a lot of ankle issues over the years and it may be in the team's best interest to make him play 2B to limit his movement some so his ankles don't take as much of a beating.
Those kind of mechanics directly impact the on field gameplay and are the types of things I wish SCEA would take inspiration from.
We won't agree on everything, I know that, but I think we may be able to both look at a host of features that OOTP does have that would impact the gameplay experience in The Show. While you may disagree with me on wanting a full-size draft and full organization, I imagine we'd both love the playing a guy out of position system or a wear and tear system since they do directly impact the gameplay on the diamond.
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I am sure those that purchase day one will test the crap out of the touted logic improvements (talking to you Tbarnes!!).
I am really pining for more on top of that though.
Y2Y coming back
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Big bug that I found last year, I hope is fixed this year, being the logic for balancing rosters.
The massive trades to balance rosters needs to be addressed.
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Big bug that I found last year, I hope is fixed this year, being the logic for balancing rosters.
The massive trades to balance rosters needs to be addressed.
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Man I hope the stream on Thursday gives us more. Haven't bought the game in 3 years, just waiting for them to give me a reason to. Franchise is all I'm personally interested in, so hoping for the best.
I think people are getting confused with this.
After the 1st season of MTO it allows you to export to franchise mode. I think that is still there.
I think Ramone is answering the question of can multiple seasons be played of MTO specifically. But I could be wrong.
After the 1st season of MTO it allows you to export to franchise mode. I think that is still there.
I think Ramone is answering the question of can multiple seasons be played of MTO specifically. But I could be wrong.
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And the first minute of it is banter between coach and Ramone.
I love that some of you remain optimistic year in and year out. This video and Thursday's feature video are carefully planned to hit the bullet points they think they need to hit to get everyone to buy the new version every year. Like RTTS I expect that the real measure of how the mode works this year will not be fully known until people dive in during the head start.
I personally just use OOTP for my franchise play (I am not nearly as into it as all of you). The tweakable options in that game are a bit overwhelming but they do allow me to set things up so that it is more fun for me.
After the 1st season of MTO it allows you to export to franchise mode. I think that is still there.
I think Ramone is answering the question of can multiple seasons be played of MTO specifically. But I could be wrong.
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That million a week is covering your current payroll.
Simply look at the salary screen and you will see how much room you have or don’t have.
It takes an extra step to switch screens in the budget menu and look at your current and future salaries and your current and future total budgets.
Not trying to sound snarky. Just want to inform you.
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I know on current gen they couldn’t do it and not for a lack of trying. Now that it’s clear certain features are “next gen exclusive”, I hope rotating interleague is one of them.
So when Ramone answers questions regarding changes/upgrades to line-ups/rotations; trade logic being tuned/reworked; budget logic being improved; improvements to contract logic; and call-ups/send downs, what's the chances that it's all the same in their minds and applies to BOTH MtO and Franchise, even if only one or the other was mentioned? I'm probably completely wrong and reading too much into it, but my thinking is that anything tweaked in one would have to apply to the other due to being able to carry your MtO into Franchise mode.
And yes, there are features I'd like to see added or expanded upon. But it wasn't too long ago they removed the word "revamped" from franchise mode, so I'll gladly take quality of life upgrades and vastly improved AI in all aspects of the game.
Oh well I guess I should be looking forward to my new relationship with the next gen Xbox-/s, the only NG console that want's me right now...lol
Oh well I guess I should be looking forward to my new relationship with the next gen Xbox-/s, the only NG console that want's me right now...lol
I got the S a few months ago and I love it! It fits perfectly under my 1440 gaming monitor.
I just got my PS5 on Sunday and I also love it too. Can’t wait until Asus’ new 32” 4K 144hz hdmi 2.1 monitor comes out. PS5 will look so amazing on that!
So when Ramone answers questions regarding changes/upgrades to line-ups/rotations; trade logic being tuned/reworked; budget logic being improved; improvements to contract logic; and call-ups/send downs, what's the chances that it's all the same in their minds and applies to BOTH MtO and Franchise, even if only one or the other was mentioned? I'm probably completely wrong and reading too much into it, but my thinking is that anything tweaked in one would have to apply to the other due to being able to carry your MtO into Franchise mode.
And yes, there are features I'd like to see added or expanded upon. But it wasn't too long ago they removed the word "revamped" from franchise mode, so I'll gladly take quality of life upgrades and vastly improved AI in all aspects of the game.
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Yep exactly, I called that out before.
Just really hope franchise received all the logic changes because mode really needs them.
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Wasn't rotating inter-league schedules in games like MLB 2K and High Heat Baseball back in the day? Im no coder but it baffles me that its 2020 and this feature isn't a multi year franchise mode.
How are you going to tell me my team can only experience playing one division of the opposite league for the entire existence of my franchise?
Thats 10 stadiums I never get to see, 10 teams of players you never get to face, etc. (Unless you meet them in the World Series, play ST games or see their players at the ASG).
we need this guy Tommy to review the game. Then maybe they'll listen! lol https://youtu.be/VnvCGfbiO3M
Hard to say what under the hood changes may have led to Y2Y saves being omitted, if they indeed are the reason.
Hope to hear whether Y2Y saves return in the stream on Thursday.
Two-way players would have impacted upon the carryover data in a big way as well.
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How are you going to tell me my team can only experience playing one division of the opposite league for the entire existence of my franchise?
Thats 10 stadiums I never get to see, 10 teams of players you never get to face, etc. (Unless you meet them in the World Series, play ST games or see their players at the ASG).
we need this guy Tommy to review the game. Then maybe they'll listen! lol https://youtu.be/VnvCGfbiO3M
I think it had a lot to how franchise was first built back in 06, or maybe even further, going back when it was 989 & the older MLB series. I can't recall but I'm guessing 989's MLB franchise mode had the same schedule every year too
and then the further along SDS went, it made it impossible to fix with their small team, time, and resources. I would imagine it's a sore subject and source of embarrassment to the devs. at least I know I would be. maybe as long as their check clears, they've grown to be content with
Unless the logic has improved in franchise mode tremendously, I don't see any reason for me to get 21. It's a shame that even though baseball and football are my number 1 and 2 favorite sports, I end up buying and playing 2k for my sports fix because EA and SCEA have a target audience that I'm apparently not a part of. Fortunately us baseball fans have OOTP as an alternative if we desire well made franchise mode that has depth and competent AI.
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Just really hope franchise received all the logic changes because mode really needs them.
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It almost feels like they’re trying to force us to play MTO instead of franchise by giving more updates to MTO. Then in a few years they can say, our stats say no one plays franchise, so it won’t be included. Hopefully I’m wrong.
I think they're just trying to give M2O every opportunity to succeed. while franchise does need a lot of tlc, it's still years and years further along in terms of being fleshed out and M2O is still in it's infancy, needs these improvements every year. this is what, just the third year of M20? I've given it an honest attempt at playing it the last couple years but it hasn't been up to my standards. and I'll keep giving it a chance at playing time the next couple years, as long as I see that the Studio is trying to get it to reach its potential.
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Simply look at the salary screen and you will see how much room you have or don’t have.
It takes an extra step to switch screens in the budget menu and look at your current and future salaries and your current and future total budgets.
Not trying to sound snarky. Just want to inform you.
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Fundamentally, it makes no sense to accumulate a “bank” via weekly cash flow, then to be told you can’t access it during the season to make upgrades. If you are limited by a budget on top of the cash flow system, just return it to the way it used to be where we had static budgets.
I love that some of you remain optimistic year in and year out. This video and Thursday's feature video are carefully planned to hit the bullet points they think they need to hit to get everyone to buy the new version every year. Like RTTS I expect that the real measure of how the mode works this year will not be fully known until people dive in during the head start.
I personally just use OOTP for my franchise play (I am not nearly as into it as all of you). The tweakable options in that game are a bit overwhelming but they do allow me to set things up so that it is more fun for me.
This. Bought OTTP 22 for the first time this year. Like many of you I can’t see buying ‘21. End of an era.
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I think that is where the confusion came in....and I am for the annual budget.
What happens is if you are at your cap limit or say 2 million under for example. You can only sign a player in season for under 2MM
If you want to make a trade the salaries need to match up and keep you below what your annual max cap is. Which is seen on the salary projections/future budget screen.
The weekly cash flow simply is your revenue to actually pay the bills you have contracted to on your payroll between your players, coaches and scouts.
If you are running at a deficit then it really causes problems heading into the off-season for free agency etc.
They mentioned they are going back to the annual budget and no more weekly screen so you will get what you want visually....but the same principles will most likely apply.
You can’t go above your annual cap.
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You see there were my player mode on the old Xbox baseball game now SDS is calling it "ball player".
There will be huge improvements to a these modes, think about it said they were working on stadium creator for 5 years , but first year on xbox there releasing it and some has to do with next gen as well obviously.
Trust me im skeptical as the next guy falling for there couch sitting bs year after year saying 500 new animations, branch throws etc etc .......But there's noway there releasing the same efforts we seen last few years on a new console year and a new platform year.
Thats suicide. A really bad business move on there part if they did. Trust me not gonna happen.
They mentioned they are going back to the annual budget and no more weekly screen so you will get what you want visually....but the same principles will most likely apply.
You can’t go above your annual cap.
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Very well said. I’m looking forward to the annual budgets as well.
You see there were my player mode on the old Xbox baseball game now SDS is calling it "ball player".
There will be huge improvements to a these modes, think about it said they were working on stadium creator for 5 years , but first year on xbox there releasing it and some has to do with next gen as well obviously.
Trust me im skeptical as the next guy falling for there couch sitting bs year after year saying 500 new animations, branch throws etc etc .......But there's noway there releasing the same efforts we seen last few years on a new console year and a new platform year.
Thats suicide. A really bad business move on there part if they did. Trust me not gonna happen.
So we're getting a bunch of big franchise things tomorrow? Or you're talking '22, '23, etc coming games?
You see there were my player mode on the old Xbox baseball game now SDS is calling it "ball player".
There will be huge improvements to a these modes, think about it said they were working on stadium creator for 5 years , but first year on xbox there releasing it and some has to do with next gen as well obviously.
Trust me im skeptical as the next guy falling for there couch sitting bs year after year saying 500 new animations, branch throws etc etc .......But there's noway there releasing the same efforts we seen last few years on a new console year and a new platform year.
Thats suicide. A really bad business move on there part if they did. Trust me not gonna happen.
As much as I want this to be true, I have to remain skeptical.
Don't get me wrong, I am moving on to 21.
But this isn't a next gen only release or an xbox expansion only release. They are still releasing it for the ps4.
I think there are small improvements like AI and such to franchise in 21 but no other major changes other than the next gen only stadium creator which is not a franchise specific tool so we can't lump it in here even though we can use it in franchise.
MLB wants a profitable and better baseball game. But the problem is that every one has a different definition of better.
Franchise in 21 will be largely unchanged. Those xbox users will buy it no matter if that franchise mode has been the same for the last 5 years or not because it is new to them. Like I said, we will get small improvements as we do yearly.
The improvements come when it goes fully next gen only.
I think there can be big improvements in the future, but from the ign interview, Ramone made it sound like they were pretty taxed on man power this year so that must be kept in mind.
Not sure about the nintendo release either.
Anyway, that's my thoughts.
I am excited to see 21 and start playing it on my PS5.
I can't think of a bigger splash or quicker way to close the gap than buying Out of the Park Developments and adding playable baseball to OOTP.
For the record, It won't happen but its fun to imagine it would.
You see there were my player mode on the old Xbox baseball game now SDS is calling it "ball player".
There will be huge improvements to a these modes, think about it said they were working on stadium creator for 5 years , but first year on xbox there releasing it and some has to do with next gen as well obviously.
Trust me im skeptical as the next guy falling for there couch sitting bs year after year saying 500 new animations, branch throws etc etc .......But there's noway there releasing the same efforts we seen last few years on a new console year and a new platform year.
Thats suicide. A really bad business move on there part if they did. Trust me not gonna happen.
ummm.. no .. improvements will be minimal.. enjoy the new depth chart screen and thats about it. MTO will get majority of the updates. If they REALLY invested in Franchise it would have been already shared. Yes the stream is tomorrow, but they will only spend a few min on franchise. U are in for a let down.
And to play devils advocate its not business suicide to leave franchise as is, the majority of the money they make is from DD, plain and simple. We on OS are dying breed I'm afraid:(
And to play devils advocate its not business suicide to leave franchise as is, the majority of the money they make is from DD, plain and simple. We on OS are dying breed I'm afraid:(
I can't think of a bigger splash or quicker way to close the gap than buying Out of the Park Developments and adding playable baseball to OOTP.
For the record, It won't happen but its fun to imagine it would.
Doesn't EA still release MVP in Asia, or did recently?
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I can't think of a bigger splash or quicker way to close the gap than buying Out of the Park Developments and adding playable baseball to OOTP.
For the record, It won't happen but its fun to imagine it would.
OOTP was just bought out by Com2Us. Its fun to imagine but that is literally never happening.
To be clear, the doom and gloom folks have been complaining about no major franchise additions since before we knew anything about the game so I'm not annoyed by your optimism, just curious if you have any insider info
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Idk about the 6 man rotations.... That screenshot could just be showing who's the #1 starter in AAA or something like that.
Care to share that insider info???????? :)
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
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My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
lol doubt it, and doubt the date of the stream has any significance
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
Hmmm....It is Opening Day after all. :y11:
(It's also April Fools Day, which I'm hoping is NOT the correlation here :cool: )
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
Or they know its opening day and realize this may be the one stream that has less eyes on it because of baseball starting. So they plopped franchise in for this day.
Multiple perspectives on why they did that. Or it could be coincidence.
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
Hmmm... Yep you definitely have info that you can't share right now... Man idk, guess we'll see.
Multiple perspectives on why they did that. Or it could be coincidence.
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(It's also April Fools Day, which I'm hoping is NOT the correlation here :cool: )
so don't be surprised to see headlines like
"MLB21 franchise mod now merged with OOTP 22 to create a new next-gen mega sim of the future OOTheShow 22"
"On a corresponding move, MLBTS Diamond Dynasty mode was sold to Super Mega Baseball so online players can now combine their 2 main baseball activities, flipping cards & hitting homeruns in a new sim HOMERUNS ONLY DYNASTY"
I don’t think they will combine it. That would mean they would make this game the only one that doesn’t let you play every game. I think the people that play MTO is not wanting to go to franchise mode in the 2nd season. So technically, they would be separating this mode even further from franchise mode.
What people are asking is if you can do an MtO Year 1 -> offseason -> MtO Year 2 -> offseason, etc.
It's not combining it with franchise but rather making a multi-year 'story mode'...
"MLB21 franchise mod now merged with OOTP 22 to create a new next-gen mega sim of the future OOTheShow 22"
"On a corresponding move, MLBTS Diamond Dynasty mode was sold to Super Mega Baseball so online players can now combine their 2 main baseball activities, flipping cards & hitting homeruns in a new sim HOMERUNS ONLY DYNASTY"
"Mets to strike Sidd Finch stats from the team records for his past history of culture appropriation."
And to play devils advocate its not business suicide to leave franchise as is, the majority of the money they make is from DD, plain and simple. We on OS are dying breed I'm afraid:(
I’ll keep saying this so long as it’s necessary to do so. Developers want you to think franchise players are a dying breed. The truth is that their social media interaction for franchise posts is as active as their posts about other modes.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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I just got my PS5 on Sunday and I also love it too. Can’t wait until Asus’ new 32” 4K 144hz hdmi 2.1 monitor comes out. PS5 will look so amazing on that!
Nice!....I can't seem to find a PS5 or XBOX-X anywhere. Enjoy it and have fun!!
So when Ramone answers questions regarding changes/upgrades to line-ups/rotations; trade logic being tuned/reworked; budget logic being improved; improvements to contract logic; and call-ups/send downs, what's the chances that it's all the same in their minds and applies to BOTH MtO and Franchise, even if only one or the other was mentioned? I'm probably completely wrong and reading too much into it, but my thinking is that anything tweaked in one would have to apply to the other due to being able to carry your MtO into Franchise mode.
And yes, there are features I'd like to see added or expanded upon. But it wasn't too long ago they removed the word "revamped" from franchise mode, so I'll gladly take quality of life upgrades and vastly improved AI in all aspects of the game.
If MTO and Franchise aren’t built on the same logic (either MTO built using the old Franchise logic or a new Franchise built using the new MTO logic) then they are seriously doing it wrong.
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look at quick counts for example. you can't turn QC on and off mid-game because the two logics don't mesh right
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
So what happens tonight when we get nothing besides logic updates???
And a depth chart;) but that will be it..
maybe the real news is the trick
https://twitter.com/MLBTheShow/status/1377621775278768128?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Hoping for the best.
Yeah revamped was a very loaded word that could mean so much. I think they back peddled once they saw what it did.
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Can we EDIT COACHES?
I play as the Yankees. I'm tired of my first and third base coaches having beards and having retired numbers or the same number as an active player on the team.
I just want to be able to make them old white guys with the correct numbers. That's all I ask. This shouldn't be that hard.
look at quick counts for example. you can't turn QC on and off mid-game because the two logics don't mesh right
By the two logics are you referring to non-QC and QC gameplay? That would just be a true/false variable that is checked to start each plate appearance (as well as possibly at the end of either plate appearance or game to adjust pitch counts - which would account for the not being able to switch it on or off). One would hope.
I’m referring to the overall ‘season management’ aspects of the MTO and Franchise logic needing to be the same code (with the odd ‘if MTO do this, if Franchise do that’ chucked in). Otherwise they’re duplicating code which must be avoided if at all possible. Duplicate code means having to update two streams for everything that needs to change that is the same, and eventually bugs will end up in one that aren’t in the other and/or differences that shouldn’t be different.
With all this speculation about MTO becoming the replacement for Franchise, my prediction is that Franchise is being rebuilt on the MTO code.
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With all this speculation about MTO becoming the replacement for Franchise, my prediction is that Franchise is being rebuilt on the MTO code.
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That's an interesting take that actually makes plenty of sense. It would be lovely news if franchise was being rebuilt for this new generation on a healthy foundation that led to the mode finally having the depth it desperately needs in the near future.
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this for sure, that's why today will be disappointing
3:00 PM PST.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfAP6AYI-J8
Or click this tweet if you prefer to use something other than Youtube LIVE.
https://twitter.com/MLBTheShow/statu...7Ctwgr%5Etweet
I'm pretty much leaning on not purchasing this year's version. If they did anything to Franchise might make me change my mind. I might get a physical copy because who knows when a Padre will be a cover athlete again, but I might just wait until sales happen to do that.
I believe it's 3pm PST.
Just burn the Internet !! I’m just not sure what IP address to set on fire first ! :nono:
I may be hungover but i have a feeling we’ll be happy with all the small changes to franchise. Probably nothing major but many little things to keep us running !
2 hours.
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My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
In my best Tom Hanks voice possible.....
"Houston, we have a problem....."
:p :laugh:
All kidding aside. It was an ok reveal, but I expected more "quality of life" upgrades for franchise.
"Houston, we have a problem....."
:p :laugh:
All kidding aside. It was an ok reveal, but I expected more "quality of life" upgrades for franchise.
It has some much needed upgrades. What I think people will overlook is when they said foundation for the future. It looks like they put in some time to update this and it should give franchise players some confidence that the mode isn’t going away. And that it is actually going to get even better in future games.
I think this could be leading onto a big improvement in 22.
My guess is by tomorrow evening I'm gonna be seeing a lot of "IM SOLD" or glad I pre-ordered.
I'm sold. and glad I preordered
happy pappy? :y1: