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MLB The Show 21 - PS5 Vs. PS4 Graphics Comparison

MLB The Show 21

MLB The Show 21 - PS5 Vs. PS4 Graphics Comparison

Brian has put together a video showcasing the PS4 and PS5 version of MLB The Show 21 so you all can see a graphics and gameplay comparison at a glance.

We take a side-by-side look at the PS5 version of MLB The Show 21 compared to the PS4 version. All of the footage was captured on a PS5 in 4K, so the two games should be coming through near their ceiling of visual fidelity. We also did a comparison last year for MLB The Show 20 being played on the PS5 if you want to use that as another benchmark for comparison.

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  1. We put this together ASAP since some peeps were really eager to be big mad about this, so at least you can use this to either be FURIOUS or look at how they compare etc.
    beyond disappointing.  Guess we see why they hid the next gen version to the last moment.  No improvements at all. Game looks 100% identical.  Knew the deathblow awas going to box this year; all the resources were put to going cross platform.  This next gen has been the worse cycle I've ever seen in my 30 tears of gaming.  Everything is lazy, expensive and just horrible from consumer standpoint.
    Lol some people. And if they made graphics better this year people would complain that that’s all they did, where the stadium creator we been asking for? Where’s this and that. Things take longer than one year to do, it’s a difficult job. The graphics will eventually get better. Bet
    scottsuserid
    beyond disappointing.* Guess we see why they hid the next gen version to the last moment.* No improvements at all. Game looks 100% identical.* Knew the deathblow awas going to box this year; all the resources were put to going cross platform.* This next gen has been the worse cycle I've ever seen in my 30 tears of gaming.* Everything is lazy, expensive and just horrible from consumer standpoint.

    30 tears of gaming indeed.
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol
    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol

    Haha see the trick is if you go over to our YouTube channel and comment on it there, you can get away with far more toxicity.
    Here, I will display said hammer and use it if need be if the hyperbole is just too much to take from peeps.
    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol

    What about having a next gen system and not being happy?
    I have a ps5 but am disappointed about no y2y saves and no sounds of the show.
    I’m sure the gameplay improvements are nice, but I’m still going to skip it.
    I expected a bit more from next gen, call me naive.
    Forget the graphics. It's the animations from the PS3 era (maybe older?) that has this game looking or at least feeling the same year after year. The game just seems to lack a "pop", or "zip" to it, things just seem sluggish. I really wish they could learn something from a Japanese baseball game like Pro Yakyuu Spirits, in terms of animations and player model fluidity. (I really hate how awful the players look when they turn they head up to the sky to track the baseball, it's like their head is about to detach from their neck, it's immersion breaking.) And I would be disingenuous if I said the whole $70/$60 for longtime PlayStation players and basically "free" for new xbox gamers doesn't leave a foul taste in my mouth...
    I’m actually happy there is no graphic difference, makes the decision easier to go with the ps4 version on my ps5 so I get sounds of the show. There is NO difference visually it’s the same 100%. I actually prefer the ps4 version cause I can change resolution and hdr etc
    baseballguy99
    I’m actually happy there is no graphic difference, makes the decision easier to go with the ps4 version on my ps5 so I get sounds of the show. There is NO difference visually it’s the same 100%. I actually prefer the ps4 version cause I can change resolution and hdr etc

    this right here.
    So those of you who don't have a next gen console shouldn't feel left out unless stadium creator is such a priority for you.
    Wow I was hoping for a few surprises here and there but absolutely nothing. The fast load times are nice but I don’t find the haptic feedback such a big deal.
    Also this weird thing is back.
    Before you select a pitch the grass is rendered 3d:

    After you’ve selected the pitch the grass goes flat:

    I mean come on the PS5 should be able to handle this.
    The lighting and atmosphere does look better.  Players are pretty much the same.  Also you can tell which players faces are new tech because the last few years, the new guys have looked way better.  Kershaw and crew are years old and they clearly never gave them new scans.
    SDS didn’t really up the graphics on PS4 until 17 so I’d expect it’s the same boat here.  Won’t be for another 2 years until the graphics and models are drastically improved.
    The halo look around the players is just the lighting from the room and taking a pic of it on the TV. It's super sharp when you are looking at it.
    Well, I think this explains why they didn’t show anything next gen in the next gen presentation...there’s negligible difference. Just a stadium creator that can’t host anything but day games!
    Regardless DD will make them a fortune so SDS obviously can’t care less.
    LastActionHero
    I did a quick comparison as well.
    4K HDR, top is 20, bottom is 21.

    I do think 21 looks better. Colors seem more accurate and not as washed out. Cleats look sharper, same with the stadium, and contrast is better.
    Maybe people’s expectations were too high but I’m finding a big leap between 20 on the PS4 Pro and 21 on XSX. Much sharper, better HDR, much better lighting, smooth 60 FPS and vibrant colours - the blue and orange on the Mets uniforms are popping and the grass doesn’t look nearly as washed out. They also did obvious texture updates to Shea Stadium and Wrigley Field also looks considerably better (only played two games so far).
    Room for improvement in animation and models but from a graphics POV they have done a pretty good job.
    Hard to believe SDS still can’t figure out how to make a hat fit and look good a lot of the players. Also, does the Altuve player model still look like he’s wearing a fat suit under his jersey?
    ChasleyRhino
    Maybe people’s expectations were too high but I’m finding a big leap between 20 on the PS4 Pro and 21 on XSX. Much sharper, better HDR, much better lighting, smooth 60 FPS and vibrant colours - the blue and orange on the Mets uniforms are popping and the grass doesn’t look nearly as washed out. They also did obvious texture updates to Shea Stadium and Wrigley Field also looks considerably better (only played two games so far).
    Room for improvement in animation and models but from a graphics POV they have done a pretty good job.

    Those improvements all came under 20 on the generation leap. If you played 20 on the xsx you’d be seeing the same things.
    I’m really struggling to see why you’d bother with 21. Stadium creator? That’s not sounding like it’s the amazing feature was hyped up to be! Very limited, day games only etc.
    adambaseball
    Hard to believe SDS still can’t figure out how to make a hat fit and look good a lot of the players. Also, does the Altuve player model still look like he’s wearing a fat suit under his jersey?

    It’s not a fat suit, its a wire under his jersey. This game is as real as it gets!
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    I'm old. I've owned literally every year and version of The Show to date. This is the most disappointing generational update ever. The jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro was much more impressive than this. 20  PS4 running on the PS5 was nearly perfect - it just felt right. Something just feels off about the physics and responsiveness in 21 in addition to the graphics let-down - for me it's a chore to play rather than the delight that was 20 on PS5. Personally I blame Xbox ;(.
    Nba2k21 next gen looks much improved visually on next gen (I think). The same can't be said about The Show 21. Curious wat Ramone has to say about it. Clearly the focus was not on graphics/ animations, which is a shame. Why else would you fork over 70 bucks? Could it be covid? Could it be something else? Hopefully 60 fps across the board, so that includes cut scenes as well on all next gen consoles, XSS included. 
    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol

    Camp 3. Bought a next gen system are are genuinely disappointed at the graphics.
    Luddify
    I'm old. I've owned literally every year and version of The Show to date. This is the most disappointing generational update ever. The jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro was much more impressive than this. 20 *PS4 running on the PS5 was nearly perfect - it just felt right. Something just feels off about the physics and responsiveness in 21 in addition to the graphics let-down - for me it's a chore to play rather than the delight that was 20 on PS5. Personally I blame Xbox ;(.

    Let’s see with more time but there is something that feels off about 21... not sure what it is but 20 on the ps5 just felt better. 21 Bat sounds are a step down, and I also feel some of the new batting stances don’t look as good... not sure what it is but I can’t say for certain 21 “feels” better. I also don’t find pin
    Point pitching fun to be honest, feels stressful lol
    This was 100% expected. The first year on a new system is always essentially identical.
    The first two years of MLB The Show on PS4 didn't look that great. Not until MLB The Show 16 did the game get a huge graphics upgrade.
    So next year or the year after I expect this game to get a major graphics upgrade on PS5.
    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol
    Hmm....ok.
    I'm loving the next gen visuals. The crowds seem more vibrant, the lighting seems more real, the players move a little different, the ball seems more alive with it's movement and something I noticed as I was playing DD that absolutely pleasantly surprised me.........
    I created a custom logo a few years ago that I store in the vault to use every season. It's shaped like the Phillies bell logo, just a different color scheme. Now, I'm not that good with created logos. Mine are pretty stock and practically 2-D. This never happened on the PS4 but on the PS5 as innings end and the game flashes both team logos on the screen, my 2-d black and red bell turns into a fully rendered, 3-dish liberty style bell. No where in any of my logos description does it say bell. So how would it know that it is a bell...I'm going to record a video of it later and upload it. It blew my mind when it first happened. I thought it was some sort of texture glitch, but nope. The newer system visually rendered my logo for cutscenes. That's pretty awesome.
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    JDL375
    This was 100% expected. The first year on a new system is always essentially identical.
    The first two years of MLB The Show on PS4 didn't look that great. Not until MLB The Show 16 did the game get a huge graphics upgrade.
    So next year or the year after I expect this game to get a major graphics upgrade on PS5.

    Huh hold on there buddy. 2k21 on Next gen 1st year is waaaay different graphically and the way it feels. SDS dropped the ball on this one pretty bad. When you see 2k21 between regular gen vs Next gen nobody said I can’t tell the difference unlike this game
    Luddify
    I'm old. I've owned literally every year and version of The Show to date. This is the most disappointing generational update ever. The jump from PS4 to PS4 Pro was much more impressive than this. 20 *PS4 running on the PS5 was nearly perfect - it just felt right. Something just feels off about the physics and responsiveness in 21 in addition to the graphics let-down - for me it's a chore to play rather than the delight that was 20 on PS5. Personally I blame Xbox ;(.

    You know what? coming from the same background, im 37, been playing The show since 2005... got the Xsx version yesterday, and something feels weird and cheap indeed. Cant get my finger on exactly what but, it doenst feel as good as 20 on ps4 pro that I played last year.. evan the menus look a bit low res.. very weird.
    Seriously, im getting a RBI feeling when playing it lol
    micole
    Huh hold on there buddy. 2k21 on Next gen 1st year is waaaay different graphically and the way it feels. SDS dropped the ball on this one pretty bad. When you see 2k21 between regular gen vs Next gen nobody said I can’t tell the difference unlike this game

    Yeh, evan Fifa from lazy EA sports got a fairly decent upgrade, u can instantly tell if its next gen or old gen Fifa while playing it.
    Also as I remember well the transition from PS2 to PS3 was incredible for The Show, new player models, new animations, new graphics all around, it was really next gen back then. PS3 to PS4 I really dont remember but I think it was more focused on 720p to 1080p than on core graphics.
    I know we all, well if you could find one, have these new next gen systems but you have to at least give the developers a whole year before they can go all out for next gen as far as graphics is concerned.
    Be patient.
    Jasong7777
    I know we all, well if you could find one, have these new next gen systems but you have to at least give the developers a whole year before they can go all out for next gen as far as graphics is concerned.
    Be patient.

    I perfectly understand this and with all Covid situation it makes evan more sense, but in someways I feel the game is downgraded from 20, its weird, cant spot it yet... Maybe its the low resolution menus or maybe I just got to used to next gen FIFA and NBA2k but this doesnt feel as polished as The Show aways felt year after year.
    Anyone who doesn't think this game is beautiful is either lying or their expectations are WAY too high.
    Someone really said it looks like RBI Baseball? Ya'll are a hilarious bunch and this sub-forum has become toxic as hell.
    Peace out, see ya next year!
    Gosens6
    Anyone who doesn't think this game is beautiful is either lying or their expectations are WAY too high.
    Someone really said it looks like RBI Baseball? Ya'll are a hilarious bunch and this sub-forum has become toxic as hell.
    Peace out, see ya next year!

    I mentioned RBI, but I never said it looks like it... I said that in someway sometimes I got a feeling of playing it, a downgraded cheap game as RBI, I cant spot it what it is yet... maybe im just too used to NBA2k and FIFA next gen lightining/general gfx and the show just looks to flat for me now.
    Think wont keep me from playing it as I do since 2005 but indeed im disappointed.
    I posted in the impressions but in my very short time with 21 on PS5, it’s definitely not a huge jump graphically from playing 20 on PS5. But I still think it looks really good, and the frame rate being so smooth is awesome. The Show always drove me crazy on PS4 Pro with how unstable the frame rate could be. So playing 20 and now 21 on PS5, I’m very happy with how the game runs so smoothly. Honestly that’s more important to me than a big graphical leap at this point. It’s the first year on next gen consoles so let’s see what they can do with 22 as far as the graphics are concerned. Just please keep the frame rate this smooth!
    brunnoce
    I mentioned RBI, but I never said it looks like it... I said that in someway sometimes I got a feeling of playing it, a downgraded cheap game as RBI, I cant spot it what it is yet... maybe im just too used to NBA2k and FIFA next gen lightining/general gfx and the show just looks to flat for me now.
    Think wont keep me from playing it as I do since 2005 but indeed im disappointed.

    I understand exactly what you are saying, something “cheap” feeling as odd as that sounds. Fifa and nba2k on ps5 feel like premium products IMO
    Seems like this generation is more about performance than graphics. I've yet to see any of these games look substantially better on the PS5, but if they're running more consistently at 60 FPS and the console doesn't sound like it's about to take off or explode, I'd consider it a worthy upgrade.
    I haven't bought the Show in a few years but not because of the graphics, more because of lack of Franchise updates and the differences in gameplay being pretty subtle. I don't have much reason to rip on the game for the sake of ripping on a game.
      I think it's a good looking game but the difference between PS4 and PS5 in these videos is pretty negligible.  Faces look exactly the same to me.  Lighting looks a bit better.  Overall definitely not what I would have expected from the jump.  My biggest notice is that the faces, and especially the eyes look so odd and just not where they should be, IMO, when compared to videos I see of NBA 2k.  
    Gameplay itself looks smooth and top notch, really great on the wider shots.  The close-ups to me are what throws things off when I see the faces.  In the more broadcast elements type scenes.  For me if I was impressed with Franchise mode updates I might consider getting it because I can deal with graphic stuff.
    My guess is people who love the gameplay aren't really going to let graphics sway them from buying even if they aren't super impressed with the graphic update.  I am passing this year and I'll just keep hoping they figure out a way to add to the franchise immersion.
    I don't see much difference and without carry over saves I won't be purchasing the show 21 because I don't own a ps5.
    The reason to by show 21 is for the create-a-stadium feature. That's the advantage of a ps5. There is word sometime in the future a new college football game will be available for the ps5. That would probably get me to purchase a ps5.
    The good news is mlbts 20 is a great game and I'm perfectly happy to continue my franchise there.
    If you guys think FIFA and NBA 2k look drastically different, it only has to do with the lighting.  FIFA textures are essentially the same.  The only difference made was the lighting and upgrades with how everything looked in HDR.  2K I’ll admit made some updates to the faces (and more as the year has gone on), but again most of the graphical updates have everything to do with the lighting and how it impacts how everything looks.  The models and more textures are the same (just now at 4K HDR), although I do expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.
    The Show’s problem isn’t lighting since that’s all been fixed and overall the game looks visually better.  The Show’s problem is the player models have looked outdated for 3-4 years now.  The skin textures are clay-like and other than the new face scans from the last two years, the models look washed out and unrealistic.  Now like someone said, last gen SDS focused more on tweaking the gameplay/physics so we didn’t see major model updates until 2-3 years later and I expect the same here.  But the atmosphere and lighting is definitely is improved from what I saw in 20 on PS4 pro and will hopefully improve going forward (especially once things aren’t COVID impacted).
    Gosens6
    Anyone who doesn't think this game is beautiful is either lying or their expectations are WAY too high.
    Someone really said it looks like RBI Baseball? Ya'll are a hilarious bunch and this sub-forum has become toxic as hell.
    Peace out, see ya next year!

    You are being more toxic than anyone in this thread. Coming in here just to call people liars...and we're the toxic ones...smh
    desouza7
    If you guys think FIFA and NBA 2k look drastically different, it only has to do with the lighting. *FIFA textures are essentially the same. *The only difference made was the lighting and upgrades with how everything looked in HDR. *2K I’ll admit made some updates to the faces (and more as the year has gone on), but again most of the graphical updates have everything to do with the lighting and how it impacts how everything looks. *The models and more textures are the same (just now at 4K HDR), although I do expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.
    The Show’s problem isn’t lighting since that’s all been fixed and overall the game looks visually better. *The Show’s problem is the player models have looked outdated for 3-4 years now. *The skin textures are clay-like and other than the new face scans from the last two years, the models look washed out and unrealistic. *Now like someone said, last gen SDS focused more on tweaking the gameplay/physics so we didn’t see major model updates until 2-3 years later and I expect the same here. *But the atmosphere and lighting is definitely is improved from what I saw in 20 on PS4 pro and will hopefully improve going forward (especially once things aren’t COVID impacted).

    Fifa had big upgrades in a lot of graphical areas not only lightining. In the crowd, pitch texture(vastly improved) and a few top caliber players such as Messi, Alisson, Cavani and Joao Felix (they have fully 3d hair in next gen) are a showcase from whats coming in the future.
    https://i.blogs.es/dcfa92/photo_2020-12-22_14-14-37/840_560.jpeg
    Also good to mention the LOD system (level of detail on far cameras) are vastly improved too, and since soccer is a game where u see the game from far away 98% of the time it makes it look a lot better since players are more recognazible.
    Animations were bumbped up too, id say about 10-15% more transitional animations than old gen wich makes the game feel a lot smoother.
    All in all I think it was a very solid upgrade from old gen, specially considering that u didnt need to buy next gen (dual entlitement).
    said all that, the core gameplay still stucks, problaby worst fifa ive played ever. LMAO
    Gosens6
    Anyone who doesn't think this game is beautiful is either lying or their expectations are WAY too high.
    Someone really said it looks like RBI Baseball? Ya'll are a hilarious bunch and this sub-forum has become toxic as hell.
    Peace out, see ya next year!

    I think it looks great in the video but I also thought mlbts20 looked and played great which is why I'm going to continue playing it since I can continue my carry over franchise.
    What I see is not much difference between the ps4 and the ps5. Certainly the upgrade from ps4 to ps5 is not as big as from ps3 to ps4. I bought a ps4 specifically to play the show and it was well worth the money. The only reason to do that for ps5 would be to get the create-a-stadium feature but that's not enough to get me to spend for a ps5 just to get that feature.
    Someone mentioned the LOD (Level of Detail) and I will say that I was a little disappointed when the camera panned to the crowd on a foul ball and I could still see the crowd textures popping in as the camera got closer. It's obvious because there is a defined line.....say 100ft from the camera for example. Everyone 100ft and closer get higher res textures and poly counts and every beyond 100ft are lower res. As the camera pans and apparently moves closer, this line appears to move with it and you can see the textures popping in an out.
    This is not a huge deal and is necessary for games to save resources to play smoothly but I was hoping it would be less in NextGen. FWIW I see this in Madden on field goals as the camera moves toward the goal post in the air, the crowd behind them textures pop to higher res. It's minor but immersion killing sometimes.
    DodgersFTMFWSW
    Is it out yet for PS4? I thought the new release date was 4/16 but its still saying 4/20 this morning. :(
    You had to buy the Jackie Robinson edition to get early access. Otherwise the regular edition releases on the 20th
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    Well at least the stadium banners are lit up this year. It does have a RBI Baseball feeling too it. Players look a little sweaty or glossy! Granted I am on a ps4 pro with 1080p tv. I feel MLB 20 looked a lot better and more realistic skin tones and player lighting.
    Not feeling that new UI at all feels like a mobile app for makeup or something. I got the game for the infielder update and strafing control. And hope to see a difference in infield play.
    Also hoping a user controlled player lock player can cover the 2nd base bag and not just watch the CPU jog into 2nd base :(
    I think seeing NBA 2K on PS5/XSX has given people the expectation that every game is going to take a leap graphically and I can't say that I blame anyone because the base game is going to cost $76 (with tax) on the flagship console.. it's a tough sale.
    Maybe things are starting to plateau a little so we need to temper our expectations?
    My last MLB game was 19 and the more I watch videos and read the more I'm considering just getting MLB 20 for cheap and playing it on my PS5 if it runs at 60 FPS.
    Completely get everyone saying it's not much of an upgrade, but remember the law of diminishing returns. As we go up in consoles, the graphical leap is not going to be as substantial. If you are thinking we are going PS1 to PS2, you are out of your mind.
    The 3 game sessions in moments are not such a pain in the *** anynore due to the quick loading times I will give the next generation that! Besides that the only confirmation my eyes got that I was playing the PS5 version were the birds in the outfield sky haha.
    brunnoce
    Yeh, evan Fifa from lazy EA sports got a fairly decent upgrade, u can instantly tell if its next gen or old gen Fifa while playing it.
    Also as I remember well the transition from PS2 to PS3 was incredible for The Show, new player models, new animations, new graphics all around, it was really next gen back then. PS3 to PS4 I really dont remember but I think it was more focused on 720p to 1080p than on core graphics.

    To be fair, every game was incredible going from PS2 to PS3 more or less. The jump from SD to HD will pretty much never be topped for leaps. Like, even Madden was a disaster and didn't look "great" but was still leaps beyond PS2 graphics.
    I honestly can not tell any difference at all!!! :(
    The big question is why?????????
    So basically I sold my PS4 Pro back in September for extra money to get a $500 PS5 which I am still waiting for by the way :( to get what looks like just a slightly sharper looking MLB The Show with smooth 4k60????
    I should have kept my PS4 Pro so I could have at least still been playing the game and now I have nothing!!!
    I mean if MLB The Show 21 on PS5 actually took the same kind of graphic leap that NBA2K21 did then my long *** wait would be ok. But now sadly when I do finally get a PS5 it looks like I will pretty much be playing MLB The Show 21 PS4 2.0!
    What a mistake I made.
    ChaseB
    To be fair, every game was incredible going from PS2 to PS3 more or less. The jump from SD to HD will pretty much never be topped for leaps. Like, even Madden was a disaster and didn't look "great" but was still leaps beyond PS2 graphics.

    Thats true, but as I remember correctly PS3 The Show came with improved player models, cloth physics and such(I still remember that wow feeling when I saw the David Wright tv ad)... ttyt i was hoping for something like that, nothing major but at least something to make the game look upgraded(like fifa with the 3d hairs and new pitch texture), but perhaps I just got my expectations to high...
    seriously, do you guys see much difference from this to 21 next gen?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTAnNxAVxV8&ab_channel=PlayStation
    I actually think the lighting might be better on 15 lol
    brunnoce
    Fifa had big upgrades in a lot of graphical areas not only lightining. In the crowd, pitch texture(vastly improved) and a few top caliber players such as Messi, Alisson, Cavani and Joao Felix (they have fully 3d hair in next gen) are a showcase from whats coming in the future.
    https://i.blogs.es/dcfa92/photo_2020-12-22_14-14-37/840_560.jpeg
    Also good to mention the LOD system (level of detail on far cameras) are vastly improved too, and since soccer is a game where u see the game from far away 98% of the time it makes it look a lot better since players are more recognazible.
    Animations were bumbped up too, id say about 10-15% more transitional animations than old gen wich makes the game feel a lot smoother.
    All in all I think it was a very solid upgrade from old gen, specially considering that u didnt need to buy next gen (dual entlitement).
    said all that, the core gameplay still stucks, problaby worst fifa ive played ever. LMAO

    Yeah I actually forgot about the hair part because I stopped playing months ago. As you said the gameplay is so bad and so far behind PES (which is sadly stale and has its other issues).
    I was definitely wowed by how much better that stadiums and even ball physics on little touches looked, but most of the faces and even the player models seemed untouched outside of the lighting. I do agree it was more than the Show did, but I think the slight changes to the lighting has made the overall game look better, but the player models in the Show still look like they clay action figures as they haven’t changed from 16 or 17. The older face scans are really outdated too.
    Everything else seems to look slightly better though IMO. I understand people being disappointed, but I can’t think of a sports game that pushed things graphically this year except maybe 2K, and even that wasn’t that much impressively different to me. We won’t see real upgrades for another year or probably 2.
    AUChase
    I think seeing NBA 2K on PS5/XSX has given people the expectation that every game is going to take a leap graphically and I can't say that I blame anyone because the base game is going to cost $76 (with tax) on the flagship console.. it's a tough sale.
    Maybe things are starting to plateau a little so we need to temper our expectations?
    My last MLB game was 19 and the more I watch videos and read the more I'm considering just getting MLB 20 for cheap and playing it on my PS5 if it runs at 60 FPS.

    20 on PS5 runs 4K/60 flawlessly.
    The video is kind of misleading as is any comparison video. Someone who has played both first hand, I can tell you there is a difference, mainly the lighting and colors. Colors absolutely look better. You going to have guys watch this in compressed 1080p (some will even be in 480p) and just shake their head "omg this is identical!!!". When you have compressed videos, as posted, you lose a lot of the fine detail, is what it is.
    Always hated comparison videos for this reason. Oh well, game looks amazing on next gen, hopefully everyone gets to try it :)
    Bacong
    why wouldn't you guys make the video in 4k?

    We put this one at the level that most people still have since 1080p is still in more homes than 4K, but we probably will do a 4K version as well.
    ChaseB
    We put this one at the level that most people still have since 1080p is still in more homes than 4K, but we probably will do a 4K version as well.

    definitely understandable, but the differences will be much more apparent in 4K. I think it's also important to note that PS5 will be 4K/60, while PS4 can't do either of those, unless you have a pro, and even then, you have to drop down to 1440p to get a somewhat consistent 60 FPS.
    I told a lot a people not to hold their breath on huge graphic changes. Maybe next year or definitely 2023.
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    Bacong
    definitely understandable, but the differences will be much more apparent in 4K. I think it's also important to note that PS5 will be 4K/60, while PS4 can't do either of those, unless you have a pro, and even then, you have to drop down to 1440p to get a somewhat consistent 60 FPS.

    Yeah I'm aware, we did the comparison last year in 4K.
    Again, I agree with you that it shortchanges the differences since I think the game clearly does look better in 4K, but that was already true last year going from Pro to PS5 with the same game. And then this year, the upgrade is not entirely unlike the Madden jump between consoles this year as a comparison point for the latest upgrade.
    We just thought for the people "upgrading" consoles but still in 1080p -- or those thinking about it -- having the comparison in this form would help to have out there as well.
    hitman23
    I told a lot a people not to hold their breath on huge graphic changes. Maybe next year or definitely 2023.
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    I was hoping you were wrong lol
    You won't see anything truly "next-gen" until they stop developing for last-gen.
    I'll save you guys the suspense right now: If The Show '22 is going to release on PS4 next year, expect another dose of next-gen disappointment.
    I think people have every right to be disappointed. Saying that the graphical improvements are noticeable or substantial is disingenuous. They are not. I have the PS4, PS4 Pro and PS5. The improvements are beyond disappointing visually. From PS4 Pro to PS5 there is no difference. If someone has to point it out to you for you to notice, it's not impressive. With that said, the game does play well, ball pops off the bat, fielding seems smooth, but this thread os for graphics and that part is infuriating.
    desouza7
    If you guys think FIFA and NBA 2k look drastically different, it only has to do with the lighting. *FIFA textures are essentially the same. *The only difference made was the lighting and upgrades with how everything looked in HDR. *2K I’ll admit made some updates to the faces (and more as the year has gone on), but again most of the graphical updates have everything to do with the lighting and how it impacts how everything looks. *The models and more textures are the same (just now at 4K HDR), although I do expect them to continue to improve over the next few years.
    The Show’s problem isn’t lighting since that’s all been fixed and overall the game looks visually better. *The Show’s problem is the player models have looked outdated for 3-4 years now. *The skin textures are clay-like and other than the new face scans from the last two years, the models look washed out and unrealistic. *Now like someone said, last gen SDS focused more on tweaking the gameplay/physics so we didn’t see major model updates until 2-3 years later and I expect the same here. *But the atmosphere and lighting is definitely is improved from what I saw in 20 on PS4 pro and will hopefully improve going forward (especially once things aren’t COVID impacted).

    Honestly I have to turn HDR off for NBA 2k on ps5 because of how bad the uniforms colors look. Just washed out and no richness to them. If you go to the edit player screen and can switch from HDR on/off you can tell. HDR almost ads a hazy film to 2K imo. FIFA imo did however kill the next gen graphics over all the other sports titles. It seems like every other sports game is really having trouble with lighting etc on next gen.
    Went through the edit player menu and tried to see how colors looked on the show and I can’t see I’ve got a true feel for it yet. I noticed the Cards team color on shoes and pads etc seems off but I think it’s been like that for years. Also might just be how it is in real life as well.
    Caulfield
    I thought the graphics leap was in the frames per second?

    Frame per second has been good sense ps3 out side of cutscenes that is.
    desouza7
    The lighting and atmosphere does look better. *Players are pretty much the same. *Also you can tell which players faces are new tech because the last few years, the new guys have looked way better. *Kershaw and crew are years old and they clearly never gave them new scans.
    SDS didn’t really up the graphics on PS4 until 17 so I’d expect it’s the same boat here. *Won’t be for another 2 years until the graphics and models are drastically improved.

    If they graphics are going to get better it would likely be this year or next. After like 1-2 years the graphic jumps in sports games from 1 year to the next tend to be very small.
    ReturnoftheTmac
    Honestly I have to turn HDR off for NBA 2k on ps5 because of how bad the uniforms colors look. Just washed out and no richness to them. If you go to the edit player screen and can switch from HDR on/off you can tell. HDR almost ads a hazy film to 2K imo. FIFA imo did however kill the next gen graphics over all the other sports titles. It seems like every other sports game is really having trouble with lighting etc on next gen.
    Went through the edit player menu and tried to see how colors looked on the show and I can’t see I’ve got a true feel for it yet. I noticed the Cards team color on shoes and pads etc seems off but I think it’s been like that for years. Also might just be how it is in real life as well.

    Yeah can confirm HDR is hit or miss on 2K, and the color palette is still borked at times. I do think it's still the best raw graphics, but FIFA is cleaner for sure.
    LastActionHero
    Wow I was hoping for a few surprises here and there but absolutely nothing. The fast load times are nice but I don’t find the haptic feedback such a big deal.
    Also this weird thing is back.
    Before you select a pitch the grass is rendered 3d:

    After you’ve selected the pitch the grass goes flat:

    I mean come on the PS5 should be able to handle this.

    This was always a pet peeve of mine! Once you notice it you can't not notice it! I too was hoping the power of the PS5 would eliminate this, apparently not smh. Disappointing to say the least...
    baconbits11
    Completely get everyone saying it's not much of an upgrade, but remember the law of diminishing returns. As we go up in consoles, the graphical leap is not going to be as substantial. If you are thinking we are going PS1 to PS2, you are out of your mind.
    "Law of Diminishing Returns" only really applies to polygon count. We've pretty much reached the pinnacle of poly count. Where next gen will truly see it's graphics jump is in lighting, animation, and physics simulation. Things like ray-traced lighting/reflections, volumetric lighting, sub-surface scattering, muscle deformation, and cloth & hair simulation. These are where we can still see big leaps in graphics for the new generation.
    I'm not saying all of these thing should be expected to be in year one, but to say graphics can't get much better is objectively untrue.
    TFunaro
    You won't see anything truly "next-gen" until they stop developing for last-gen.
    I'll save you guys the suspense right now: If The Show '22 is going to release on PS4 next year, expect another dose of next-gen disappointment.

    As long as the ps5 is hard to get and the installbase is not even close to half of the ps4 sales (100 million) this game will keep getting released on the ps4. I think maybe ‘23 they will ditch the ps4 but definitely not next year.
    tnixen
    I honestly can not tell any difference at all!!! :(
    The big question is why?????????
    So basically I sold my PS4 Pro back in September for extra money to get a $500 PS5 which I am still waiting for by the way :( to get what looks like just a slightly sharper looking MLB The Show with smooth 4k60????
    I should have kept my PS4 Pro so I could have at least still been playing the game and now I have nothing!!!
    I mean if MLB The Show 21 on PS5 actually took the same kind of graphic leap that NBA2K21 did then my long *** wait would be ok. But now sadly when I do finally get a PS5 it looks like I will pretty much be playing MLB The Show 21 PS4 2.0!
    What a mistake I made.

    All that based on a YouTube video? Chill bro, it’s gonna be awesome when u actually play it and have it in front of u
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    This game has been a must buy since PS3, I’m skipping altogether. I loved 20. I’ll just go with that franchise. I have a PS5 and was hoping to see it on there. This video looks identical. At least Madden had different animations at first. 2k looked good. FIFA looked good. Even Madden looked good. This looks the same plus tweaks who knows what they will do. Hope Xbox enjoys it. I probably spent $200 in DD plus whatever the deluxe was the last two years per game.. I’m out for the first time since 2010 on any sony system. Wish y’all the best. Enjoy. 
    scottyo60
    This game has been a must buy since PS3, I’m skipping altogether. I loved 20. I’ll just go with that franchise. I have a PS5 and was hoping to see it on there. This video looks identical. At least Madden had different animations at first. 2k looked good. FIFA looked good. Even Madden looked good. This looks the same plus tweaks who knows what they will do. Hope Xbox enjoys it. I probably spent $200 in DD plus whatever the deluxe was the last two years per game.. I’m out for the first time since 2010 on any sony system. Wish y’all the best. Enjoy.*
    Smart move.
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    baseballguy99
    Let’s see with more time but there is something that feels off about 21... not sure what it is but 20 on the ps5 just felt better. 21 Bat sounds are a step down, and I also feel some of the new batting stances don’t look as good... not sure what it is but I can’t say for certain 21 “feels” better. I also don’t find pin
    Point pitching fun to be honest, feels stressful lol

    Yeah, the more I've played the more the graphics are maybe the least of the problem. I think the loss of the crack of the bat is one huge reason. WTF were they thinking here? I just hit a 430 foot bomb with Hammerin' Hank and it sounded and felt like I hit it off the end of a whiffle bat. Something is also seriously wonky with some of the batted ball physics - pulling an outside pitch down the line is the worst. This version just seems wrong, rushed and zero fun compared to 20 on PS Plus or PS5.
    There's just so much to be disappointed with. Even those years where there were only incremental improvements were fine with me as it was still a blast to play and as realistic as anyone could expect. This year feels unfinished. It's especially infuriating to see the exact same glitches we've had for years back yet again - the DD custom team preview and logo graphical issues, the same stock custom logo templates, the same annoying commentary ("Just missed it Matty...") On the plus side my Jackie Robinson items inexplicably credited to me twice :confused:
    I am glad there is a stadium creator but otherwise this is a huge letdown in my book.
    20 on PS4 looked like one of the best sports games graphically.
    I hope 21 on PS4/XBO it at least holds the same quality as 20 did on ps4.
    I don't have the game yet, waiting for gamepass, but watching a lot of streams and the game seems to be not much of a different 'experience' than last year. Which can be a good thing.
    i wasn't expecting them to make any changes but wish there were one or two more new modes this year.
    I'm getting it free on gamepass so can't complain. But the urge I had to get a next gen console for just this game isn't there anymore. I can wait for a ps5/xbx another year.
    TNKNGM
    Here is a comparison of JD Martinez using my custom camera
    This was on PS4 last year

    This is on PS5 this year

    Way more accurate colors and contrast. Just look at the walls and cleats. Shadows look better too. These are subtle things, and definitely not a graphical leap, but also take into account native 4K and 60fps.
    I have no doubt graphics will improve over time.
    After playing for a couple of days on PS5 I honestly think 20 was better. Something is off with the lighting now, even in the PS4 version. Many stadiums at night are dark and weirdly lit, I don’t know something seems off and I definitely think it’s the lighting. Peking textures were better last year, lighting was better last year. I do love the new equipment though. It looks great. Hopefully they can fix some of this stuff through patches.
    TNKNGM
    Here is a comparison of JD Martinez using my custom camera
    This was on PS4 last year

    This is on PS5 this year

    I am older but looks sort of similar to me. Worth a $75-$80 investment? Up to the individual. Not for me. And not just based on graphics alone.
    C
    I’m not playing 4K and HDR but all stadiums at night area really dark. It feels like half the lights are off in the stadium ( a bit like the Bush stadium like year).
    For those playing 4K and HDR are you observing this or something’s wrong on my side ?
    TNKNGM
    Here is a comparison of JD Martinez using my custom camera
    This was on PS4 last year

    This is on PS5 this year

    I don’t really understand this comparison, we should be looking at 21 on ps4 vs 21 on ps5.
    Of course there will be some minor improvements year on year but the debate here is the next gen version looking the same as current gen
    jimmy13
    After playing for a couple of days on PS5 I honestly think 20 was better. Something is off with the lighting now, even in the PS4 version. Many stadiums at night are dark and weirdly lit, I don’t know something seems off and I definitely think it’s the lighting. Peking textures were better last year, lighting was better last year. I do love the new equipment though. It looks great. Hopefully they can fix some of this stuff through patches.

    I called this out during the beta - that the colors don't look as bright and vibrant as 20s. This is last gen I'm talking about. I thought maybe bec it was beta and they put that gamertag filter on it it looked like that.
    It’s not a bad looking game, but it’s overly dismissive to say the only people who care don’t have a next generation system
    I have a ps5, if they aren’t going to change much due to covid/being a transitional year i understand but the price shouldn’t be 10 dollars more then
    Furq
    It’s not a bad looking game, but it’s overly dismissive to say the only people who care don’t have a next generation system
    I have a ps5, if they aren’t going to change much due to covid/being a transitional year i understand but the price shouldn’t be 10 dollars more then

    ive been watching on twitch and i know you can't judge from there, but some streams the game looks amazing and crisp while others it looks ordinary.
    TripleCrown
    I’m not playing 4K and HDR but all stadiums at night area really dark. It feels like half the lights are off in the stadium ( a bit like the Bush stadium like year).
    For those playing 4K and HDR are you observing the or something’s wrong on my side ?

    I play 4k HDR on OLED and Texas is almost pitch black during night games. I believe this problem also occured on the first year on the ps4.
    TheBleedingRed21
    The video is kind of misleading as is any comparison video. Someone who has played both first hand, I can tell you there is a difference, mainly the lighting and colors. Colors absolutely look better.

    I’m no tech expert but that sounds like placebo to me. You can switch TVs and have the “colors look better.” You can move your TV’s calibration sliders and have “colors look better.” That is not a valid observation when discussing any actual technical difference between the games on various platforms.
    Detroit Tigers
    I’m no tech expert but that sounds like placebo to me. You can switch TVs and have the “colors look better.” You can move your TV’s calibration sliders and have “colors look better.” That is not a valid observation when discussing any actual technical difference between the games on various platforms.

    color accuracy is an actual technical difference. "i'm no tech expert" could have been the entirety of your post.
    Bacong
    color accuracy is an actual technical difference. "i'm no tech expert" could have been the entirety of your post.

    U beat me to it
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    Furq
    It’s not a bad looking game, but it’s overly dismissive to say the only people who care don’t have a next generation system
    I have a ps5, if they aren’t going to change much due to covid/being a transitional year i understand but the price shouldn’t be 10 dollars more then

    Agreed, I understand there are people that are providing valid criticism to the developers, there are some that are defending them.
    There's nothing that screams 'PS5' or 'next gen' from what I've seen. It literally looks like MLB The Show 21 on PS4 just with faster load times.
    “Just faster load times”. LOL.
    How about you guys try it on a console yourself before making wildly inaccurate statements? And yeah, I’ve played both, on my actual console. Quite a bit of difference, but with closed minds, it’s hard to notice it.
    Bacong
    color accuracy is an actual technical difference. "i'm no tech expert" could have been the entirety of your post.

    You don't need a next generation system to get the colors right. I guess you're no tech expert either.
    To me MLB 21 looks like if MLB 20 went from high to ultra settings. A bit better lighting, textures, shadows, ect.
    Something to consider. These graphics would look way more impressive if we didn't get the PS4 pro last gen. Imagine going from base PS4 with 1080p and poor frame rate to PS5 4k smooth 60fps. There would be a lot more wow factor.
    We never had a mid gen upgrade in the past and now that we have them graphic upgrades will feel more incremental.
    TripleCrown
    I’m not playing 4K and HDR but all stadiums at night area really dark. It feels like half the lights are off in the stadium ( a bit like the Bush stadium like year).
    For those playing 4K and HDR are you observing this or something’s wrong on my side ?

    Agreed. Glad it’s just not me. Here’s a comparison for both games. Hopefully this gets patched soon.
    https://photos.app.goo.gl/?link=https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPXZImwDh93kqpAAMjCHTgppTF_d4zJKvGgeyUDVkLuqVOOj0M-hichWwwyDWYEjQ?key%3DOWtULU1Baktmdmd2d0R5UkdaWXhSb2lEWmUyMDZn&isi=962194608&ibi=com.google.photos&ius=googlephotos&ct=getapppromo&mt=8&pt=9008&cid=1052262135455639760&_icp=1
    TripleCrown
    I’m not playing 4K and HDR but all stadiums at night area really dark. It feels like half the lights are off in the stadium ( a bit like the Bush stadium like year).
    For those playing 4K and HDR are you observing this or something’s wrong on my side ?

    Not just you and from what I could tell it’s also like this in the PS4 version. The Beautiful afternoon lighting in dome stadiums appears to be gone city skylines are totally dark at night many of the stadiums are completely dark signs not lit up. The lighting just feels broken. And it’s really weird, some games, particularly day games, look absolutely beautiful, great face scans the new equipment looks amazing, but often times the field looks flat, the skin and textures look flat and bad. And Oh now I wonder if that’s why we saw very little gameplay and zero gameplay during night games During the marketing of this game. Honestly it feels like a step backwards and I cannot believe they charge $10 more for this game. Hopefully they’re able to patch the stuff. I still can’t download any roster files. Hopefully there’s a fix for that soon. Skin tones and textures for created players look flat and terrible. Even on the PS4 version of the game. Really confusing. It honestly just feels like an unfinished game.
    TheBleedingRed21
    “Just faster load times”. LOL.
    How about you guys try it on a console yourself before making wildly inaccurate statements? And yeah, I’ve played both, on my actual console. Quite a bit of difference, but with closed minds, it’s hard to notice it.

    OK then what aspect of MLB The Show 21 on the PS5/XBX truly showcases the use and the power of 'next-gen' consoles?
    I've played on both too. Hell they even look the damn same between PS4 and PS5.
    Here is MLB The Show 20 on PS4 with JD Martinez batting at Toronto with the roof closed

    Now here is JD Martinez on MLB The Show on PS5 at Toronto
    Lovesports
    You don't need a next generation system to get the colors right. I guess you're no tech expert either.

    nobody said that dude. you're obviously out of your element.
    I will have the game on xbox one S.
    I have a 4K TV but obviously XBO S doesn't do 4k. But my tv does HDR.
    Will the game look better on my 1080p or hook it up to my 4k which has HDR?
    For anyone having issue with this I definitely feel your frustrating and it could be better...However one way I’ve noticed it looking better is making sure your ps5 is always selected to 2160 rather than automatic selection. I notice a bit of a difference... much more crisper and detailed.
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    adambaseball
    Hard to believe SDS still can’t figure out how to make a hat fit and look good a lot of the players. Also, does the Altuve player model still look like he’s wearing a fat suit under his jersey?

    The hats have killed me for years. Basically anything other than a normal cap with a normal bill looks awful. Don’t get me started on low profile with a curved bill.
    bronxbombers21325
    The hats have killed me for years. Basically anything other than a normal cap with a normal bill looks awful. Don’t get me started on low profile with a curved bill.

    I don’t get that either. It looks absolutely ridiculous. Like, almost to the point of parody. and they’ve been like that for years.
    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol

    Wrong, I have a PS5 and I would say this is a disappointment. Sport games developers either fall in the Madden Buckets of being lazy and just import the last gen and calling it next gen or they fall under the 2K Sports bucket in actually creating a next gen game. I actually stopped buying MLB the show the past few years because in all honesty, it’s the same game every year with just minor tweaks. I’m waiting to see when they actually change the player models, cloth physics, etc and stop being lazy. This is what happens when you lock in the sport and are the only developer for that sport, same happens with Madden year over year. I wish 2K or another developer would step up to challenge to actually motivate MLB the show to do something new, or else they will keep spitting the same game every year and some fans will continue to make excuses for them. My two cents on this, very disappointed.
    I didn't expect anything. The dev team is mediocre in tech IMHO. The grass is horrible still. The lighting is archaic and off compared to any real life stadium. Colors are mostly the same, which means completely off in most areas. A few improvements for next gen, but not at all worth getting for me. Maybe next year. Big maybe.
    I like the game overall, but it's just not worth it to me until the next major upgrade. Maybe by 2023 this will look next gen. Big maybe again.
    jimmy13
    After playing for a couple of days on PS5 I honestly think 20 was better. Something is off with the lighting now, even in the PS4 version. Many stadiums at night are dark and weirdly lit, I don’t know something seems off and I definitely think it’s the lighting. Peking textures were better last year, lighting was better last year. I do love the new equipment though. It looks great. Hopefully they can fix some of this stuff through patches.

    For lighting to regress from where it was, not good at all, you need some kind of incompetency on your dev team. Much like the people doing grass and coloring in the series, it doesn't seem like the talent is there to make this truly the game everyone wants to see.
    We know they are held back by last gen, but that was the excuse last time, and their game honestly looks terrible in too many places for me to defend anybody. Truth hurts.
    Ooh, we’re getting to the “the devs are lazy or stupid and only I’m smart enough for pointing it out” phase of the game cycle earlier than usual.
    SmashMan
    Ooh, we’re getting to the “the devs are lazy or stupid and only I’m smart enough for pointing it out” phase of the game cycle earlier than usual.

    Dude it’s been like that the past 3-4 years. I bet if you post a pic of X player without labeling what edition it was, people wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Maybe a few gameplay features here and there but graphically, this game hasn’t changed much.
    So, as I'm (impatiently) awaiting the arrival of my Series X - I am beyond stoked for Gamepass release on my Xbox one tomorrow.
    I'm a huge baseball fan, and my only taste of The Show was in 2014, the one and only time I've ever owned Playstation and not Xbox, and it wasn't long after that I switched back to Xbox.
    So it will be interesting. I'll have the X1 version for two weeks, then The Show will be the first game I load up on my Series X on May 6th, or whenever it actually arrives.
    Not only will I finally be able to dive back into an amazing version of baseball in a video game in a long time, but it will also be my introductory to the next-gen console. Looking forward to getting a firsthand experience in seeing the differences and upgrades, regardless.
    Edit: wasn't trying to jack the PS4-PS5 comparisons that this thread is - but it was a good watch/read for me, as someone wondering the differences between this gen and last.
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    I've been reading several other sites and been talking to some of the streamers about how the game plays/looks on nxt gen.
    The majority of them say it looks incredible and also how smooth it plays. There are a few that say there are hiccups and the graphics are only a little better than ps4 pro.
    I wonder if it has to do w/ TV hookup? Do the people who are saying it's a slightly better upgrade than last gen graphically on a 4K tv? or are they playing on 1080 p?
    Also if you remember last gen, the graphics didnt really take a huge jump until MLB 18, their 4th game into the PS4 franchise. I expect something similar for this gen but hoping next year.
    Are the graphics and frame rate really the exact same? Or are there some minor improvements? I don’t care about stadium creator but I miss SOTS. If graphics and frame rate are exact same, I’ll just go back to ps4 version. Anyone have both ?
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    Abnormal101
    Wrong, I have a PS5 and I would say this is a disappointment. Sport games developers either fall in the Madden Buckets of being lazy and just import the last gen and calling it next gen or they fall under the 2K Sports bucket in actually creating a next gen game. I actually stopped buying MLB the show the past few years because in all honesty, it’s the same game every year with just minor tweaks. I’m waiting to see when they actually change the player models, cloth physics, etc and stop being lazy. This is what happens when you lock in the sport and are the only developer for that sport, same happens with Madden year over year. I wish 2K or another developer would step up to challenge to actually motivate MLB the show to do something new, or else they will keep spitting the same game every year and some fans will continue to make excuses for them. My two cents on this, very disappointed.
    You are correct. They have no competition but basketball games do.
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    Keirik
    Probably can divide up this thread in two camps
    1. Bought a next gen system and will be happy with said new features/ game.
    2. Couldn’t find/didn’t look for next gen so will try to use this as justification to make themselves feel better.
    Poor mods lol

    3 camps. Haven't done anything to franchise in a number of years so I have no interest in buying any version of the game until that is improved.
    Maybe one day people will finally realize that "next gen" products don't always mean better products. Everyone gets their hopes sky high then BAM.....not what we thought was it.

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