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MLB The Show 21 4K Gameplay Trailer Reveals Roberto Clemente

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MLB The Show 21 4K Gameplay Trailer Reveals Roberto Clemente

On Monday, San Diego Studio released the first full gameplay hype trailer of the year for MLB The Show 21. This trailer was created on next-generation hardware and provided some sneak peaks into upgrades the game has received, as well as teased a new legend the community has been clamoring for, Roberto Clemente.

MLB The Show 21 4K Gameplay Trailer

The biggest takeaway, at least from this chair, are the enhancements to player faces. The trailer went out of its way to show as many stars from Major League Baseball as it possibly could to really highlight the enhancements to skin tones, and what seemed to be upgraded player emotion. In essence, not only did players look better, they seem a bit more life-like here. The hair physics and jersey physics don’t seem very noticeable, so we might not be seeing leaps there, but this version has a very clean look in 4K at 60 fps.

If you want to look at a baseline for all these graphical upgrades for the new game, you can also look at our 4K comparison on the PS5 vs. PS4 for MLB The Show 20.

Several players received brand new scans this year too. Blake Snell, Matt Chapman, Luis Robert, Trevor Bauer (and his strut) and many others will have newer, more up-to-date renditions of their facial features in this game. A few of those, like Snell, hadn’t been updated or addressed in several years. It’s a small update when you look at just one player, but it makes a difference when you add them all up.

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Crowds seem to have had a little work done to them as well. Animations inside the masses seem more variable in this trailer, and the crowd itself looks to have more depth to it. If MLB The Show is going to become a more immersive experience, there are things that will need to be reworked and the crowd was certainly one of them. That’s promising. It doesn’t seem like grass physics (or the dirt) were upgraded much since they were not really shown off, and we can still see some stadiums that are not quite picture-perfect accurate in the trailer (like Kansas City’s Kauffman Stadium).

The Green Monster at Fenway Park seems to have gotten some love on next-generation platforms as well. The texture of the wall, including its dents and dings were highlighted in the video. Again, while it’s a small change, it’s a welcome one. It may not necessarily move the needle for the prospective buyer, but it’s a nice little touch.

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Speaking of the Green Monster, let’s talk about balls played off the wall. The official gameplay trailer dropping after a few of the feature premieres was probably a mistake. Strafing and improved defense on plays off the wall would have been a nice teaser used in this trailer, but instead, since we already know everything about those changes, it largely goes as a non-conversation-starter here.

There are a ton of new animations and celebrations highlighted here as well. Personality and individualism continue to be an emphasis for developers in this game, and that should absolutely be a focus with each rendition moving forward. MLB struggles to market the personality of their players, so MLB The Show doing what it can to help push the cause certainly doesn’t hurt.

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Double Dose Of Teasers

Still, the two biggest takeaways from this trailer come from the very end of it. The video teases a new “I, II, III, IV, V” feature that is sure to spark conversation inside the community. What could it be? Are we looking at some sort of new ranking tier system that will come into play inside Diamond Dynasty? Are we looking at a new way to unlock different tiers of legends? Nobody knows for sure, but it’ll be a topic of conversation until it is likely revealed in the Diamond Dynasty feature premiere prior to launch.

Finally, at the very end of this trailer, legendary outfielder Roberto Clemente was revealed as a new legend for MLB The Show 21.

It’s important I take a moment to state just how critical his inclusion is here:

50 years ago, Clemente died after his plane, overfilled with aid supplies, crashed shortly after takeoff in Puerto Rico on its way to help earthquake victims in Nicaragua. All this, on New Year’s Eve.

To this day, Clemente remains an absolutely beloved and revered figure in Puerto Rico and much of Latin America. Clemente is a Hall of Famer on the baseball field having logged 18 seasons in the big leagues. He was the quintessential humanitarian and advocate for human and civil rights.

Clemente will be a hugely welcomed addition to the game. I hope San Diego Studio makes a cover athlete version of the game with his picture to pay respects to the greatest number 21 of all time on this, his numbered year for the franchise.

Wrapping on some thoughts about the trailer, I’d say this was a little underwhelming in terms of what we’ve come to expect from gameplay trailers for The Show. The new faces and new animations are great, but I don’t know if this trailer succeeded in teasing what’s new to the franchise this year or truly blowing folks away with graphical upgrades. Nevertheless, we’re still excited overall, and The Show at a consistent 60 fps will make a world of difference all on its own.

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  1. Is this even final PS5 graphics? Their messaging on graphics has just gotten pathetic. I find it hard to believe they will reveal actual PS5 graphics without highlighting the changes like every other game does.
    bayman
    Is this even final PS5 graphics? Their messaging on graphics has just gotten pathetic. I find it hard to believe they will reveal actual PS5 graphics without highlighting the changes like every other game does.

    Most likely this is the PS5 graphics. I doubt they will release a gameplay trailer and not be highlighting the best graphics possible. I think it looks great.
    Sparkles
    Really bummed that there’s no jersey and hair physics...

    same...
    One thing i can say is that they finally fixed the phillies stadium colors
    Well, videos do lose some clarity when uploaded to Youtube, so......but the video didn't highlight anything that jumps out as PS5. The game IS about the leap to PS5 this year (thus the late release). Just not sure what to expect here, but that wasn't it.
    For year one of the next-gen jump, I personally think the graphics look about as good as I realistically hoped they'd be.
    Main bummer, as a Royals' fan, is that I don't see any of the stadium accuracy feedback that I've posted about for years in the left field area (ie: signage and extent of outfield wall LED). Also don't see the new video board that took the place of the giant fixed 'Kansas City' graphic on the glass of the HoF building. I know these videos aren't the final product, so maybe there's still a chance these get added, but it's definitely a bit of a shot to my excitement.
    Is this really the PS5 version? I don't see the disclaimer saying it's the PS4 version on PS5 hardware. I'm really struggling to find a graphical upgrade here. Good thing that stadium creator looks so amazing because otherwise I don't know that I'm spending the extra $10 for the ps5 version. Sure was hoping we'd have cloth and hair physics by now. Maybe it'll come in the future, but for now I'm pretty underwhelmed.
    For a late release, I see absolutely nothing groundbreaking that would represent a major difference between current Gen and next Gen.
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    DamnYanks2
    That is definitely PS4.
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    The fact that they showed that clip in a created stadium is what leads me to believe this may be PS5 footage. Just a guess on my part though.
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    Mercury112491
    I might have missed them in another stream but I’m curious what those Roman numerals refer to
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    This as well I’m not sure what those are referring to.
    beau21
    The fact that they showed that clip in a created stadium is what leads me to believe this may be PS5 footage. Just a guess on my part though.
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    Trailers aren't made in a day. My guess would be that this is still PS5 beta footage from before the PS5 graphics are implemented.
    SCEA has to justify the extra $10 for the PS5 version and create a stadium with nearly identical graphics ain't it.
    Mercury112491
    I might have missed them in another stream but I’m curious what those Roman numerals refer to
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    My guess is that it has to do with DD/Conquest Mode
    McPizza
    I thought it looked great.

    Based on what? What part of that trailer looked any different from last year? Is anybody in this thread saying they are impressed because they think it looks better than last year?
    I'm not going to going to jump to conclusions before the graphics stream but if this is basically what the PS5 version ends up looking like, that's an unacceptable lack of improvement to the graphics.
    bayman
    Based on what? What part of that trailer looked any different from last year? Is anybody in this thread saying they are impressed because they think it looks better than last year?
    I'm not going to going to jump to conclusions before the graphics stream but if this is basically what the PS5 version ends up looking like, that's an unacceptable lack of improvement to the graphics.

    Based on his opinion, which he's allowed to have and doesn't need to justify to you nor anyone else.
    Mattp2112
    Most likely this is the PS5 graphics. I doubt they will release a gameplay trailer and not be highlighting the best graphics possible. I think it looks great.

    What part of this looks any more than a PS4 game running on a PS5 right now?
    I think this looks great! This was defiantly next gen, see picture below. I thought the shadows and looked great, also the helmet and wall textures really stood out to me as much improved. Also if your monitor or screen is 4k it's going to be hard to tell the difference, but watching the youtbue at 4k 60hz.. I think it looks really good.
    Well if you think about it if you purchased the Jackie Robinson edition for $85 and it is entitlement game. Wouldn't be just ported version like Madden 21. Graphical changes to next gen probably not in this year.
    I am having a hard time purchasing a PS5 anyways. I will be content with MLBTS 20 until I get a PS5.
    countryboy
    Based on his opinion, which he's allowed to have and doesn't need to justify to you nor anyone else.

    There is a PS4 version for $10 cheaper, if people are happy to buy that have at er. I'm curious if any of the people impressed so far are because they feel like this looks next gen so far. I haven't criticized anybody, defensive much?
    bayman
    There is a PS4 version for $10 cheaper, if people are happy to buy that have at er. I'm curious if any of the people impressed so far are because they feel like this looks next gen so far. I haven't criticized anybody, defensive much?

    Not defensive at all, just not sure why you feel anyone needs to justify/explain their opinion of the trailer to you?
    Let people have their opinions and move on
    KnightTemplar
    Maybe I misread, but isn't the stadium creator for just the PS5 version?

    Yes
    But it could be that the majority of the trailer was the current gen version running on next gen hardware and the only portion that was 100% next gen, was that brief showing of the created stadium.
    bayman
    Trailers aren't made in a day. My guess would be that this is still PS5 beta footage from before the PS5 graphics are implemented.
    SCEA has to justify the extra $10 for the PS5 version and create a stadium with nearly identical graphics ain't it.

    This. These kind of trailers are often made weeks before it actually releases. This in combination with the fact that SDS implements graphical improvements super late in the cycle ánd that they haven’t done the next gen stream yet I still have hope we will see some proper improvements.
    Their main focus this year is to draw the Xbox crowd in and for them everything is a first so their focus ain’t so much on showing the graphical improvements compared to the previous version because they never had a previous version.
    I hope for at least improved dirt textures because in this trailer it’s still a flat surface with bread crums and that just’t won’t cut it anymore in the ps5 era if you ask me.
    I very much doubt there is much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions of the game in terms of graphics. The big difference will be resolution and framerate, two things that can't really be conveyed in a YouTube video.
    PS5 could also possibly render using ray tracing, but I actually doubt it will make much of a difference, since access to ray tracing means that traditionally rasterized lighting can just copy the ray traced masters, and I highly doubt real time ray tracing will be in the game, at least not for illumination.
    It does allow for realistic lighting in custom made ballparks, which traditional rasterization cannot do.
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    One thing I noticed, which I hope it's a concerning thing, is that other than one clip of Mookie Betts diving during sunset, every clip is from during a day game.
    LastActionHero
    This. These kind of trailers are often made weeks before it actually releases. This in combination with the fact that SDS implements graphical improvements super late in the cycle ánd that they haven’t done the next gen stream yet I still have hope we will see some proper improvements.
    I hope for at least improved dirt textures because in this trailer it’s still a flat surface with bread crums and that just’t won’t cut it anymore in the ps5 era if you ask me.

    This has to still be early beta footage. Even if they didn't have time to overhaul the player models, hair and uniforms this year. Improving the dirt and grass for next gen should be the absolute bare minimum for something "next gen".
    TheWarmWind
    I very much doubt there is much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions of the game in terms of graphics. The big difference will be resolution and framerate, two things that can't really be conveyed in a YouTube video.
    PS5 could also possibly render using ray tracing, but I actually doubt it will make much of a difference, since access to ray tracing means that traditionally rasterized lighting can just copy the ray traced masters, and I highly doubt real time ray tracing will be in the game, at least not for illumination.
    It does allow for realistic lighting in custom made ballparks, which traditional rasterization cannot do.
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    The PS4 version will play 4K 60FPS on PS5, that's not acceptable for a "next gen" version.
    countryboy
    Was Bauer's strut in '20?

    I don't believe so. My guess is that the majority of these personality adds (both player and team) were a focus for '21 and something they'll touch on in the video(s) and blog(s) this week.
    jimmy13
    Looks great, can’t wait. I’d have to guess the Roman numerals are for the PS1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

    Good point. If true, I wonder if this could imply that only the short clip shown after that (of the create a ballpark) was of the next gen version and the rest was PS4.
    (Sorry for the triple post...)
    I also just got a newsletter email from The Show team. The video description doesn't lead me to believe we're looking at next-gen footage. I would think they'd be more forthcoming and 'next-gen' buzzword centric if that were the case.
    "The time is now! Watch the MLB® The Show™ 21 Gameplay Trailer captured on next-gen systems in 4K & at 60 FPS. Can you figure out the new feature that’s being teased near the end? We will answer that and have more legend reveals are coming. Stay tuned."
    Man that trailer got me super hyped! I'm easy to please and this game always improves enough for me to justify buying it every year. Couple questions though.....was there always a Levi's ad in this game at Oracle Park or is that new this year? And when they showed Clemente, is that a new classic stadium or is that one that's always been in the game? I couldn't place it.
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    TheWarmWind
    I very much doubt there is much difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions of the game in terms of graphics. The big difference will be resolution and framerate, two things that can't really be conveyed in a YouTube video.

    4K/60fps is already achievable playing The Show 20 on PS5. If that's all there is graphically for the PS5 version then we are essentially just playing the PS4 version with a stadium creator.
    If people are disappointed by anything they see, just remember this year introduced 3 new consoles into the development cycle. Blockbuster releases like Call of Duty struggled. I think we’ll see major jumps starting next year.
    beau21
    (Sorry for the triple post...)
    I also just got a newsletter email from The Show team. The video description doesn't lead me to believe we're looking at next-gen footage. I would think they'd be more forthcoming and 'next-gen' buzzword centric if that were the case.

    So those Roman numerals are likely the gameplay feature they are teasing?
    Watching the video again, i think we have a mixture of PS4 and PS5.. I think this scene here was a direct comparison with Lindor being the PS4 version and Arenado being the PS5 version. Look at the difference in skin texture, the dirt texture on Arenado, the shadows being more realistic.
    The visuals look really nice. Not totally blown away but I am excited to see it on my tv rather than a YouTube video. This is also old footage being used.
    Little things I noticed were new walk off and World Series championship animations/cut scenes.
    Personal animations like Bauer’s strut.
    They showed Wander Franco in a created stadium wearing a Tampa Bay Rays jersey. That tells me you do not need to rebrand to use a created stadium in franchise.
    I’m sure there are little features that the next game version includes and it is not just the created stadium as the only difference between the two. But that’ll have to wait until the next gen stream.
    To expect massive visual upgrades when going to another platform and have to rewrite everything for that i believe is just unrealistic expectations. We saw when staying only on Playstation going from PS3 to PS4 we saw a delay in a true visual improvement for a year or two.
    I’m really looking forward to this years game
    beau21
    The fact that they showed that clip in a created stadium is what leads me to believe this may be PS5 footage. Just a guess on my part though.
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    If it is, that's terrible.
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    Circle the Wagons
    If people are disappointed by anything they see, just remember this year introduced 3 new consoles into the development cycle. Blockbuster releases like Call of Duty struggled. I think we’ll see major jumps starting next year.
    For $70, I'd hope to see some substantial improvements this cycle.
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    zbundy3
    Watching the video again, i think we have a mixture of PS4 and PS5.. I think this scene here was a direct comparison with Lindor being the PS4 version and Arenado being the PS5 version. Look at the difference in skin texture, the dirt texture on Arenado, the shadows being more realistic.

    It's really hard to tell since the light conditions are so different. It does seem like the dirt detail varies clip-to-clip in the trailer though.
    I'm skeptical the next-gen version will end up looking better than the stadium creator clip. I don't buy that they would put out a trailer before implementing next-gen graphics. My gut says that if there was a huge increase in graphical quality they would have been yelling about it. It's looking like better lighting and higher detail textures. A moderate improvement but not a generational leap.
    I think some of you guys expectations were way too high. Months ago, I assumed the biggest next gen gaming upgrades were going to be performance, not graphical. That also applies for most other next gen games as well.
    In a year or two, I expect more graphical improvements. But for much of this year, most next gen console games will look like current games on PC.
    Padgoi
    For $70, I'd hope to see some substantial improvements this cycle.
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    They have went over quite a bit of great changes to hitting, pitching, and fielding. There has been a fully customizable stadium creator added. There has been a NEW platform completely added and supported. Have you even watched, read, or attempted to research the improvements?
    I never understood why you come back here year after year, you are never happy, probably one of the most unhappiest posters I have seen around any forums to be quite honest. Maybe it is just tradition at this point.
    You can tell some of you don't remember the days before it was "all about graphics". I rarely see anyone ask what performance changes are we going to see, what load times are we looking at. It's all been fussing over the graphics which are already stellar, just need new player models.
    TheBleedingRed21
    They have went over quite a bit of great changes to hitting, pitching, and fielding. There has been a fully customizable stadium creator added. There has been a NEW platform completely added and supported. Have you even watched, read, or attempted to research the improvements?
    I never understood why you come back here year after year, you are never happy, probably one of the most unhappiest posters I have seen around any forums to be quite honest. Maybe it is just tradition at this point.
    You can tell some of you don't remember the days before it was "all about graphics". I rarely see anyone ask what performance changes are we going to see, what load times are we looking at. It's all been fussing over the graphics which are already stellar, just need new player models.
    When people think of next gen, for some reason it's all about graphics. Next gen means so much more than that. Like you said, it's about load times, gameplay, fps, etc. I'll gladly take the way the graphics look right now with a smooth 60fps and all the fielding changes they've made and more.
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    "The time is now! Watch the MLB® The Show™ 21 Gameplay Trailer captured on next-gen systems in 4K & at 60 FPS. Can you figure out the new feature that’s being teased near the end? We will answer that and have more legend reveals are coming. Stay tuned."

    I wonder what the new feature is that is being teased at the end?
    countryboy
    I wonder what the new feature is that is being teased at the end?
    It's Franco hitting a home run in a created stadium.
    This further confirms that the feature was leaked and then SDS got out in front of it. Kind of mucked up the marketing roadmap a bit.
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    So I just double checked Oracle Park in The Show 20, and the Levi ad is definitely not in that park so we can mark down Levi's as being new for '21
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    Nice Hype Trailer,
    But updates to fielding look minor especially after watching the gameplay stream! The underlying problems are still there! Example they showed a runner sliding into 3rd twice in the twitch stream. And the 3rd basemen made zero effort to tag in the first and the second was a minimal effort to tag the runner.
    This tells me that when playing player lock there will be no way to attempt to tag a runner that is not triggered by the cpu. So all the issues are still there. There are supposed to be Baez style tags in the game this year. Wasn't he on the cover last year LOL!
    A new walk off home run animation lol. How many teams will have the same animation.
    If the PS5 game has no high five animations for players crossing the plate and scoring runs. This will be a horrible sign that all the animations are canned sequences and not based on a unique situation.
    I'll keep playing 20 even with the basic baseball fundamental flaws it has.
    Archie56
    So I just double checked Oracle Park in The Show 20, and the Levi ad is definitely not in that park so we can mark down Levi's as being new for '21
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    I didn't think it was and was going to double check when I got home this evening.
    Thanks for checking! :)
    graphics are the same to me. the big leap to me graphic-wise would be addressing the aliasing issues on hands, arms, etc on next gen. nothing more annoying than seeing a hand or arm shimmering on pitchers and batters in broadcast/pitcher cam. lol
    I wish SDS copied something the game SKATE had. Celebrations you could trigger yourself. For intance, now you see a cut scene of a player celebrating a hit on firstbase doing the stirring pot or whatever. It would be cool if you could choose between 4 or so celebrations (triggered by the d-pad) after you had a hit.
    While we’re at it they could even make a ****load of celebrations that you would be able to unlock.
    Padgoi
    For a late release, I see absolutely nothing groundbreaking that would represent a major difference between current Gen and next Gen.
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    right cause developing the game for two brand new platforms has nothing to do with it.
    What jump were you people looking for? What major jump in graphics have you seen from ANY new game?? The first few years are always a moderate change ESPECIALLY in sports games that are still developing for older consoles. Relax.
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    I like how a lot of people seem to be surprised by the fact that the game isn't a drastic improvement visually over last years. Some of you have been playing this game as long as I have (I've owned every single game since 06) and this isn't a surprise. They usually get to their peak graphical appearance by the 2nd or 3rd game in the generation.
    Me personally, I'm happy they've made it to 4k 60 fps because that alone is gonna be amazing. And while the same could be done on the PS4, I've noticed some things that seem to be improved. Lighting, while not drastically different, looks a lot more crisp on the players and environment. Also, were gloves that shiny and detailed last year? The first shot of Bauer with his red glove, the glove looks very detailed and shiny. Might just be me but that looks better than last year.
    I think people need to stop comparing The Show to NBA 2K and need to realize that 2k's studio is probably double the size (if not more) of SCEA. Thankfully, now that they're multiplatform they'll see double the sales, and in turn, probably be able to add more people to the team so we see more improvements each year. Time will tell.
    For me though, I'm impressed with this year's game more than I ever have. Also, I like the people complaining about the $70 price point. Forgetting that literally everyone else in the industry at the top of the chain is doing it. I still remember when people complained when we went from $50 to $60. You'll get over it eventually.
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)
    mlbtheshowgamer
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)

    As someone who's owned both, there's a big difference between the PS4 Pro and the PS5. We haven't seen many games developed solely for next-gen hardware, but there have been stand-out games like Demon's Souls. It's not all a frame-rate thing though that's certainly been a part big differentiator when it comes to PS4 games running on PS5. It'll be interesting to see going forward if new games prioritize framerate over detail since that hasn't been the case historically.
    Also, framerate makes a huge difference to how a game feels to play. Especially games that require a lot of precise timing, like The Show for example.
    The reason we're not seeing huge upgrades in graphics isn't that the consoles aren't capable of it. It's because developers are designing games to be cross-generation, which broadly speaking lowers the ceiling for how good a game's going to look. In the case of The Show, they're also building on a foundation that is pretty old for video game standards.
    We have updated the original post with full analysis in our news story. We will also be posting a bushel of 4K pictures late(ish) tonight so you can really dive in and look at a ton of the screens if you'd like.
    mlbtheshowgamer
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)
    If you think there's no difference between the PS4 Pro and the PS5, you are seriously misguided. I don't even know where to begin bc all your statements are just flat out wrong.
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    mlbtheshowgamer
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)

    Please.
    It's one thing to say that the improvements are too small or incremental for you to justify the move to the next console, but to claim that there's no real difference is just silly.
    I'll just throw out frame rates, loading times, and not having to choose between graphics and performance on many games. Those are huge for a lot of people, and we also know that the real bump will take place in a year or two when games are clearly at a level that the older consoles couldn't deal with -- because, like another poster said, devs aren't hamstrung by having to worry about compatibility with older systems.
    countryboy
    I didn't think it was and was going to double check when I got home this evening.
    Thanks for checking! :)
    No problem man! I thought it was new, and really glad to see that they are expanding on real life ads in the stadiums. It just adds so much to the authenticity
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    ChaseB
    We have updated the original post with full analysis in our news story. We will also be posting a bushel of 4K pictures late(ish) tonight so you can really dive in and look at a ton of the screens if you'd like.

    Good point in there about the facial animations. Definitely looks like some work went into them. Unfortunately, the player models still look bizarrely stiff.
    mlbtheshowgamer
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)
    The new consoles saw their biggest upgrade in processing power. The CPUs in the current generation of consoles are a joke and were a joke when the consoles released. The next gen consoles finally have respectable CPUs.
    They also have pretty strong GPUs and graphics will take a leap in the next year or two for all games, but the biggest difference this generation will be the amount of processing power developers have to work with now. AI in all video games for the past decade plus have been generic and we've hardly seen progress there. The consoles finally having competent CPUs should lead to a big advancement in AI this generation. The prior two generations were all about the graphics. This gen is all about the processing power.
    Simply having the power doesn't guarantee progress will be made, but this generation should be defined by AI and processing power. We've hit a point now where graphics have diminishing returns. The next big leap for graphics is ray tracing and these consoles are not there yet for that. That will have to wait for the next generation of consoles most likely unless something significant happens that reduces how demanding ray tracing is.
    We will still see graphical improvements over this gen, but it's going to be in the details and little things. When ray tracing becomes more feasible and more of the norm, that's when the next big graphical leap will happen. Ray tracing is going to be revolutionary, but it is still young and even cards like the 3080 will struggle with it in it's current form. If the 3080 can't do it, the consoles won't be doing full tracing anytime soon.
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    Please explain to me the graphical differences because I’ve seen the trailer and mlb 20 on ps5 and I’m not seeing a difference
    With ps4 or ps3 I seen a Major difference but sorry I’m not seeing it with 4 and 5
    Problem is the player models haven’t changed for years what makes you guy think in the next 2 years there is going to be this huge jump?
    Blzer
    ****ing night skies unchanged. :brickwall

    Assume you're talking about the purple skies?
    Been hoping to see that updated for a long while now myself, too.
    Would also love to see a real-world (ie Weather Channel ala NCAA Football) option that pulls real time weather, and time for a given game. If I can't sleep and decide to get in some MLB at 2am, I'd love to see that reflected in the lighting and atmosphere.
    beau21
    Would also love to see a real-world (ie Weather Channel ala NCAA Football) option that pulls real time weather, and time for a given game. If I can't sleep and decide to get in some MLB at 2am, I'd love to see that reflected in the lighting and atmosphere.

    Careful...people here might yell at you here for not playing the game "Realistically". :D
    Making a version for the xbox of a game that has been coded for the playstation for years couldn't have been as easy as some people seem to think. I'm sure a lot of the development time went toward that, during a pandemic nonetheless. So my expectations for a big next gen leap aren't high.
    Hopefully we see a PC version soon, which could open the door for modding;
    Ronoko
    Making a version for the xbox of a game that has been coded for the playstation for years couldn't have been as easy as some people seem to think. I'm sure a lot of the development time went toward that, during a pandemic nonetheless. So my expectations for a big next gen leap aren't high.
    Hopefully we see a PC version soon, which could open the door for modding;

    I bought a good pc thinking we would get a pc version and was disappointed to read no pc version again we need a competitor for the greatest baseball game ever mvp plus the ps5s marketing plan was a major failure still can’t find one here in Canada
    mlbtheshowgamer
    Please explain to me the graphical differences because I’ve seen the trailer and mlb 20 on ps5 and I’m not seeing a difference
    With ps4 or ps3 I seen a Major difference but sorry I’m not seeing it with 4 and 5
    Problem is the player models haven’t changed for years what makes you guy think in the next 2 years there is going to be this huge jump?

    You said there's no reason for a next gen consoles and now you've backtracked to limiting what you're saying to MLB The Show.
    For your previous point of the whole console being pointless, I give you exhibit A: https://press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2020/10/07/nba-2k21-looks-unbelievable-on-ps5-xbox-series-x/amp/
    As for MLB The Show, all it takes is to look at the history of The Show and see that they almost always make their big changes graphically the 2nd or 3rd iteration in. Like I said, I own every The Show since they started calling it The Show, so I've seen this first hand.
    Player models are not graphics necessarily. Not as you're trying to correlate them. And also, while they may not have changed "in years" (Though they did make some improvements to body types and other things like sleeve length and such a couple iterations ago), what makes you so sure that it won't change in the next two iterations? They'll (basically) double their sales now that Xbox One and Series X users will be added to the fold. That in turn (should) mean they can afford a larger crew to work on the game. Which (should) mean they have more people to work on improvements each iteration. I have a positive outlook on The Show for the coming years because of this. Obviously, time will tell in the end.
    mlbtheshowgamer
    I bought a good pc thinking we would get a pc version and was disappointed to read no pc version again we need a competitor for the greatest baseball game ever mvp plus the ps5s marketing plan was a major **** up

    Quite frankly, that's your own fault. No one promised anything for the PC. Microsoft and Nintendo did their little emoji responses or whatever to the tweet about it going multiplatform, but no one said exactly what platforms. So that's on you. It may never come to PC for all we know until they say so.
    douggoud
    You said there's no reason for a next gen consoles and now you've backtracked to limiting what you're saying to MLB The Show.
    For your previous point of the whole console being pointless, I give you exhibit A: https://press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2020/10/07/nba-2k21-looks-unbelievable-on-ps5-xbox-series-x/amp/
    As for MLB The Show, all it takes is to look at the history of The Show and see that they almost always make their big changes graphically the 2nd or 3rd iteration in. Like I said, I own every The Show since they started calling it The Show, so I've seen this first hand.
    Player models are not graphics necessarily. Not as you're trying to correlate them. And also, while they may not have changed "in years" (Though they did make some improvements to body types and other things like sleeve length and such a couple iterations ago), what makes you so sure that it won't change in the next two iterations? They'll (basically) double their sales now that Xbox One and Series X users will be added to the fold. That in turn (should) mean they can afford a larger crew to work on the game. Which (should) mean they have more people to work on improvements each iteration. I have a positive outlook on The Show for the coming years because of this. Obviously, time will tell in the end.
    Quite frankly, that's your own fault. No one promised anything for the PC. Microsoft and Nintendo did their little emoji responses or whatever to the tweet about it going multiplatform, but no one said exactly what platforms. So that's on you. It may never come to PC for all we know until they say so.

    People were complaining about that nba trailer and how crappy the graphics looked
    Sorry but the show needs to come out for pc or it will always look the same year after year after year
    douggoud
    You said there's no reason for a next gen consoles and now you've backtracked to limiting what you're saying to MLB The Show.
    For your previous point of the whole console being pointless, I give you exhibit A: https://press-start.com.au/news/playstation/2020/10/07/nba-2k21-looks-unbelievable-on-ps5-xbox-series-x/amp/
    As for MLB The Show, all it takes is to look at the history of The Show and see that they almost always make their big changes graphically the 2nd or 3rd iteration in. Like I said, I own every The Show since they started calling it The Show, so I've seen this first hand.
    Player models are not graphics necessarily. Not as you're trying to correlate them. And also, while they may not have changed "in years" (Though they did make some improvements to body types and other things like sleeve length and such a couple iterations ago), what makes you so sure that it won't change in the next two iterations? They'll (basically) double their sales now that Xbox One and Series X users will be added to the fold. That in turn (should) mean they can afford a larger crew to work on the game. Which (should) mean they have more people to work on improvements each iteration. I have a positive outlook on The Show for the coming years because of this. Obviously, time will tell in the end.
    Quite frankly, that's your own fault. No one promised anything for the PC. Microsoft and Nintendo did their little emoji responses or whatever to the tweet about it going multiplatform, but no one said exactly what platforms. So that's on you. It may never come to PC for all we know until they say so.

    It will if they want to attract a new audience.
    And we all knew it wouldn’t come out for Nintendo frankly nobody buys Nintendo consoles for sports games
    Looks much like last years game...
    What scares me is the animations are exactly the same ..baserunning, throwing, fielding..
    Guess will just have to wait and see...
    mlbtheshowgamer
    People were complaining about that nba trailer and how crappy the graphics looked
    Sorry but the show needs to come out for pc or it will always look the same year after year after year

    Quite frankly, those people are dumb. The game looks almost life-like in my opinion. Those people need to lower their expectations because I don't know what would impress them at that point.
    Also, your second stament is false, and you know it. Stop being so dramatic.
    Trust me, I was lucky enough to get an RTX 3080 at MSRP, so I would love an MLB The Show on PC. But there's no guarantee it will never change only being on consoles. And there's no guarantee it would change if it did come to PC. I can't begin to comprehend how daft that statement is as a whole.
    tuckermaine
    Looks much like last years game...
    What scares me is the animations are exactly the same ..baserunning, throwing, fielding..
    Guess will just have to wait and see...

    The animations for fielding and throwing have been updated or added to.
    Can say that from playing tech test
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    Sparkles
    Really bummed that there’s no jersey and hair physics...
    Hopefully in the coming years we will see that. Some players still have zombie eyes too.
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    mlbtheshowgamer
    People were complaining about that nba trailer and how crappy the graphics looked
    Sorry but the show needs to come out for pc or it will always look the same year after year after year

    Who was complaining about it? Because over in the 2K forums, the ONE thing everyone can agree on is the quality of the graphics on PS5. Especially on the right TV for next gen gaming. The PS4 version can’t even touch it and anyone who doesn’t see that is delusional
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    Gosens6
    Who was complaining about it? Because over in the 2K forums, the ONE thing everyone can agree on is the quality of the graphics on PS5. Especially on the right TV for next gen gaming. The PS4 version can’t even touch it and anyone who doesn’t see that is delusional
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    If u have a ps4 pro you will see minimal graphics difference with ps5...however, if you are playing on original ps4 it's a huge jump. This years show on PS5 is all about framerate.
    pingponggame
    Something I’m noticing is the lack of adds on created stadium walls. Perhaps a limitation? Or a feature yet to be revealed within CAS?

    I'm hoping we have the ability to create if not upload images to be used as ads like NBA 2k does. At least for offline (I can see them not wanting to allow that in DD with how people can be). Offline, only we will be able to see it so I don't see why we can't if they did introduce it. At the bare minimum, I hope we have placeabke existing ads (like The Show or other real ones). I could live with that.
    mlbtheshowgamer
    There was no point for a “next gen” console to come out when no graphical changes will ever take place I don’t see a diff in nba 2k for ps4 pro and ps5 it’s all a frame rate thing and if you don’t care about that like myself there is no reason for them ever to discontinue the ps4. (Which they will eventually do)
    It’s all a money grab like phones someone please explain the diff between the iPhone 11 and the iPhone 12 it’s the same as ps4 pro and ps5 (graphically)

    I strongly disagree with this take!
    Playing MLB 20 on the PS4 Pro and then playing it on the PS5 has been a big leap. I immediately noticed how much smoother it played at a true 4K and a true 60 FPS. The difference is stark and has been a joy.
    Not only that. I also installed MLB 17,18 and 19 and glory glory. They all play incredibly smooth.
    Uniform, equipment, lighting, shadows, all amazing and upgraded.
    Big time.
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    I enjoy playing Bacon's roster so much using the SHOW 20 on PS5, that I wasn't even super excited to get MLB 21 for PS5 since you can't import saves over this year.  While it looks "good" this might be the first year ever that I skip getting the new Show and keep playing  the Show 20 with Bacon's roster.  
    Caulfield
    that shot of Ohtani going yard followed by him pitching is hopefully an allusion to two-way players kinks finally worked out once and for all

    Since our RTTS players will be able to be two-way players, plus that, I hope so! As an Angels fan and a big Ohtani fan, it's been weird for them to not be able to figure it out in the past 3 years. Plus, let us make our own. It's an option always grayed out. What if we wanna make a league entirely of 2 way players? Let us! Never understood why we couldn't. That and making someone a super utility type. If we wanna break the game like that then that's on us.
    douevenbench
    If u have a ps4 pro you will see minimal graphics difference with ps5...however, if you are playing on original ps4 it's a huge jump. This years show on PS5 is all about framerate.

    Have to disagree here. I was really
    surprised how all the colors just jumped out at me. PS4 PRO to PS5 on ‘65 Samsung QLED.
    douggoud
    I'm hoping we have the ability to create

    I think we’d see create before we see upload but I agree; both would do wonders for immersion.
    Taking it a step further, being able to replace ads on existing stadiums walls — could also be something added (not solely) into franchise with $$ implications as part of a revamp effort some day. I might be getting carried away lol
    Armor and Sword
    I strongly disagree with this take!
    Playing MLB 20 on the PS4 Pro and then playing it on the PS5 has been a big leap. I immediately noticed how much smoother it played at a true 4K and a true 60 FPS. The difference is stark and has been a joy.
    Not only that. I also installed MLB 17,18 and 19 and glory glory. They all play incredibly smooth.
    Uniform, equipment, lighting, shadows, all amazing and upgraded.
    Big time.
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    Yeah dude. 20 on a ps5 is like a new game. People can't understand until they play it.
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    BrianMcNulty11
    Yeah dude. 20 on a ps5 is like a new game. People can't understand until they play it.
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    I'm gonna jump in and agree with both of you. Playing 20 on the PS5 feels like a totally new game and the way colors pop is just awesome. You're right, people wont know unless they've played it. So it's funny to me how people comment on how it's no different when they haven't played it themselves.
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    BrianMcNulty11
    I watched the trailer on my ps5 and it looked amazing. The framerate and colors were great. Not sure what everyone was expecting though.
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    Ha.... I really don’t know what to expect other than it needs to be an obvious upgrade from what the PRO on the PS5 looks like now.
    Not sure how they are going to pull it off, but it just can’t look the same.
    douggoud
    I'm hoping we have the ability to create if not upload images to be used as ads like NBA 2k does. At least for offline (I can see them not wanting to allow that in DD with how people can be). Offline, only we will be able to see it so I don't see why we can't if they did introduce it. At the bare minimum, I hope we have placeabke existing ads (like The Show or other real ones). I could live with that.

    Would love ad options (w/option to remove ads) for all parks, would make throwback rosters feel more to their time depending on the decade.
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    I bet all these posters that say:
    “Next gen isn’t an upgrade”
    “PS5 and PS4 versions basically same besides stadium creator”
    “Next gen is so disappointing”
    I could go on...
    But I bet these posters are the same ones without a console either trying to justify to themselves or make themselves feel better about not having one. People have a hard time letting others enjoy things. If you ever played on one, especially The Show, you wouldn’t say that.
    If you do have a next gen console, you’ll understand these erroneous statements are silly, to say the least.
    BrianMcNulty11
    I watched the trailer on my ps5 and it looked amazing. The framerate and colors were great. Not sure what everyone was expecting though.
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    Just downloaded the youtube app to my PS5. Does look sweet. The shot of Hiura walking up the line after crushing one is beautiful.
    Armor and Sword
    I strongly disagree with this take!
    Playing MLB 20 on the PS4 Pro and then playing it on the PS5 has been a big leap. I immediately noticed how much smoother it played at a true 4K and a true 60 FPS. The difference is stark and has been a joy.
    Not only that. I also installed MLB 17,18 and 19 and glory glory. They all play incredibly smooth.
    Uniform, equipment, lighting, shadows, all amazing and upgraded.
    Big time.
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    Yeah the PS4 Pro to PS5 jump is real even with '20. You can play it on the high graphics settings and finally have crispy frames, which on its own was very big.
    So psyched for this game. It can’t come soon enough. Imagine what they’ll be able to do with lighting and crowd/atmosphere alone. I just wish we could edit all player body types and proportions like we can with caps. That would help a lot with some of the things people are saying about graphics and body types. I imagine with next gen we can eventually have more uniform slots, players per team, commentary can be further addressed, players could wear team uni’s during the all star game. I get that people are upset that there isn’t any kind of major graphical leap, but I think people will be surprised when it comes out. Also when the game jumped to PS4 it wasn’t really until ‘17 that player scans and everything else really separated it from the previous generation.
    And eventually the created players facial features and skin being scanned would be great. Maybe even expanded equipment options and stuff like that.
    April16-20th can’t come soon enough!
    I don't plan on buying a PS5 anytime soon. I never buy any technology out of the gate because I'd rather let everybody else go through the "1.0-itis" of the new tech. Plus the programmers will have a few more years of experience with the hardware by the time I upgrade. I only went from the PS3 to the PS4 because The Show stopped coming out for the PS3.
    Can I play a 162 game season on it? Great. That's all I need. I don't think I've ever really paid attention to the dirt. I'm not interested in creating a stadium, so not having it on the 4 doesn't matter to me. I'm also aware of the fact that the design team are human beings with mortal capabilities who try their best.
    I apologize for not being angry about anything.
    ChaseB
    Yeah the PS4 Pro to PS5 jump is real even with '20. You can play it on the high graphics settings and finally have crispy frames, which on its own was very big.

    All this talk about the improvement from the ps4/pro to the ps5. I’m sure it is much better. I just want a damn shot of securing a ps5 before the Show comes out! Keep missing out on all the drops 🤦*♂️
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    Seltaeb9091
    I don't plan on buying a PS5 anytime soon. I never buy any technology out of the gate because I'd rather let everybody else go through the "1.0-itis" of the new tech. Plus the programmers will have a few more years of experience with the hardware by the time I upgrade. I only went from the PS3 to the PS4 because The Show stopped coming out for the PS3.
    Can I play a 162 game season on it? Great. That's all I need. I don't think I've ever really paid attention to the dirt. I'm not interested in creating a stadium, so not having it on the 4 doesn't matter to me. I'm also aware of the fact that the design team are human beings with mortal capabilities who try their best.
    I apologize for not being angry about anything.

    I thought about waiting too. I'm almost half way through a season in my cubs chise. Bought a ps5 a month ago. The graphics in full 4k is amazing. Plus the hdr looks great on my mid range samsung tv. Much better than pro IMO.
    I guess I will have to decide whether to buy 21 or not. The fielding overhaul looks good though. I will watch the next gen program to make my decision.
    TheCaesar99
    Jesus, three!!! freaking generations now with the same freaking players models, three!!! Unbelievable.

    This is actually my problem with what we're looking at. Well, not exactly this, but the idea of it.
    Coming from PS4 Pro, what I saw would be an upgrade. When playing the tech test (which likely wasn't optimized in many ways), the framerate and aliasing were indicators of something that would clearly be an upgrade. 4K, 60 FPS (except maybe not in some cut scenes, based on what I saw), anti-aliasing, and some nice textures can definitely go a long way.
    But what I also saw were the same player models, the same lighting, the same uniform cloth, the same stadiums (including the way the dirt and grass appear), the same fans, the same animations, the same audio (by this I mean effects and likely broadcast booth)... I'm looking at the same game. In a nutshell, I thought this was the chance for them to consider an engine rebuild. Clearly, this didn't happen.
    I'm not holding my breath for a new defensive camera angle either. I can for another several years, but it's clear their intent is to still stick with the same engine for now. I'm not calling this a disappointment, I'm just calling this a fact that I noticed.
    I have expectation of them really getting into graphics down the line of this console generation, but I also just kind of know "what to expect" at the same time. It's not going to be this time around that we're going to get a revolutionary overhaul of anything. And, to be fair to them, perhaps I shouldn't wait for that at all either.
    I don't really feel this game was "touched" too much visually this time around, though. I also don't know how the PS4 version looks on PS5 compared to this one. But this does look like a marked improvement in the areas that I mentioned, and those will be noteworthy. Just maybe not the kind of noteworthiness that I hoped for.
    From TSN:

    There ya go folks. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't a little disappointed there isn't a greater difference between the last-gen version and this one, but I will always take smooth gameplay over better graphics, and if '20 on the PS5 via back compat is any indication, it will have no trouble at all with this this graphic level in '21.
    I expect the most notable next-gen improvements this year will probably come via presentation and the like. They do have a whole feature premiere dedicated to next-gen so they must have something to talk about (some of that will obviously be Stadium Creator).
    Wow struggling to find words for my disappointment that this is in fact the next gen version.  Well before any content were revealed I said that if the grass and dirt looks the same as before I won't buy.  This then confirms it, I won't buy and tbh I'm not even disappointed by this revelation.  Nothing I've heard about this year's game has raised the slightest amount of excitement.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I bet all these posters that say:
    “Next gen isn’t an upgrade”
    “PS5 and PS4 versions basically same besides stadium creator”
    “Next gen is so disappointing”
    I could go on...
    But I bet these posters are the same ones without a console either trying to justify to themselves or make themselves feel better about not having one. People have a hard time letting others enjoy things. If you ever played on one, especially The Show, you wouldn’t say that.
    If you do have a next gen console, you’ll understand these erroneous statements are silly, to say the least.

    Also they can't have actually watched this trailer in 4K, because you'll see the difference right there
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    I was very much looking forward to getting this ESP making the jump to NEXT GEN
    BUT right now i can only hope the new animations make this game flow like absolute gameplay heaven
    In my humble opinion, Visually it looks no better than 20 playing on my ps5.
    RBI Baseball's 21 grass looks better than mlb 20's grass on the ps5 for sure and yet the grass on 21 hasnt changed.
    Gameplay wise the game MIGHT be the best playing yet. But right now MLB 20 is the best looking since it was made on last gen hardware and still is impressive like a God of war etc...
    But i am disappointed.
    Phillies stadium is fixed finally tho love that no more olive grass!
    As long as franchise and scouting get some love I’ll be happy. MLB game play has always looked pretty damn good. Yeah if’d like a new engine and definitely play models. The jerseys and colors look too vibrant and cartoony as opposed to real. And for some reason the number stitching has regressed over the years
    That said, it will look great still and the new defense will be a breath of fresh air. I think some of you expect way too much sometimes. I’m excited as hell.
    parky_17

    Also they can't have actually watched this trailer in 4K, because you'll see the difference right there
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    I absolutely agree with this. I don't think many people that weren't impressed actually watched this on a 4k device. I'm very excited and cant wait to play this on the 16th... only wish that Clemente was on the steel cover this year being that is was MLB the show '21'
    I was up in the air about 21 even when my wife preordered it for me. Stadium creator did nothing for me. But the improvement in fielding and the likely smooth transition of it to auto fielding and manual throwing along with the improvement in graphics have me sold. I am banking on a big performance boost to be the clincher here. Faster loading times will be great.
    I am stoked for 21 at this point. I can't wait to get started and start on my roster project for it.
    I have stopped playing my Indians franchise since I decided to start new in 21 but have been playing the heck out of an RTTS shortstop who is a few years in now. And 20 does look great on the PS5 and has fast loading times. This is just a small piece of what's to come for 21 and the future. Though if y2y doesn't come back I will stick with 21.
    I am looking at it as a performance > graphics improvement right now. That's going to be the big difference as I said.
    I think it looked great but remember on PS4, it really wasn't until MLB 18 where the graphics really looked ps4-gen. That's was what, 3 games into the generation back then?
    Remember the Dodgers Jersey front #'s were always blue and not red for years.
    hyacinth1
    I think it looked great but remember on PS4, it really wasn't until MLB 18 where the graphics really looked ps4-gen. That's was what, 3 games into the generation back then?
    Remember the Dodgers Jersey front #'s were always blue and not red for years.

    That used to drive me crazy back on the 06-07 days...that and the Mariners units looked off somehow.
    On topic, I am excited to get my hands on the game on the 16th. I would like to some of the improvements others have mentioned, but I am still anxiously awaiting future streams and launch weekend like kid on Christmas morning!
    Incognito
    *watches 4k youtube video on their 1080p monitor*
    "Game doesn't look high definition to me."

    Can 1080 even display 4K? I’m trying to upload a photo I just took of the PRO on my PS5 (took it with a 4k camera), but I’m not having much luck here. The Youtube uploads, historically, have never done justice to what the game actually looks like in your home.
    Mbunn1993
    Anyone have a PS5 they can lend me for 6-8 months or so? :nocomprende: :lol:

    sorry, no :(
    but I do have a vcr with a missing rewind button I'll let go super cheap, $75 & that's a steal at friends price :)
    I absolutely cannot wait to get up an all-legend Play Now exhibition game with an outfield of Clemente, Bad Henry & the Say Hey Kid
    Anyone who has not played MLB 20 on the PS5 with 4K and true 60 FPS simply has no idea.
    I can only imagine the PS5 version of MLB 21 and how great it will look.
    But I can only speak of MLB 20 (and even 17,18 and 19). The details, the smoothness of the animations, and the lighting and shadows....man.
    It’s simply gorgeous.
    I always have said....I am easy to please. You know, coming all the way from my Atari 2600 days and then thinking Bases Loaded 2 The Second Season would probably be the best baseball game I would ever play on the NES LOL!!
    The Show is a dream come true.
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    Incognito
    *watches 4k youtube video on their 1080p monitor*
    "Game doesn't look high definition to me."

    Doesn't matter what you watch it on. YouTube's video compression is garbage. You would need the original video file see what it looks like.
    I'm sure the game will look good. But no real hair physics ⁰or uniform physics as one guy already said is kind of disappointing. Same player models it looks like. I think when it comes to the ps5 it's gotta blow me away to get it.
    We expect more. Still I'll reserve further judgment until I see more. But trailer did nothing for me.
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    It looks nice!...I don't think we will get the full PS5 Next Gen treatment tis year.  That will have to wait for MLBTS22 or 23.  The future of this series looks bright!
    Incognito
    *watches 4k youtube video on their 1080p monitor*
    "Game doesn't look high definition to me."

    My man it doesn't matter what you watch it on, player models haven't changed. The grass looks the same, hair is terrible and so is the dirt. You can shine it up real nice and slap 4k on it and 60fps but graphically it's the same game
    Lovesports
    My man it doesn't matter what you watch it on, player models haven't changed. The grass looks the same, hair is terrible and so is the dirt. You can shine it up real nice and slap 4k on it and 60fps but graphically it's the same game
    It's still a beautiful game, even with the dirt, grass, and player models needing work.
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    I haven’t seen this mentioned elsewhere (and apologies if it has) but at 1:07 in the trailer, when Giolito is on the mound at Guaranteed Rate Field, in the top right side there are birds flying across the sky. Don’t remember seeing that before.
    Ollienyy
    I haven’t seen this mentioned elsewhere (and apologies if it has) but at 1:07 in the trailer, when Giolito is on the mound at Guaranteed Rate Field, in the top right side there are birds flying across the sky. Don’t remember seeing that before.

    Good catch! That hasn’t been in the game thus far but maybe they just added it in for the trailer...?
    Watched it on youtube in 1080p and did not think it looked that bad.
    It mostly looks more crisp. I will withhold my opinion until i have seen the next gen stream.
    I do agree with others that the player models really need to be redone.
    But this will not happen as long as they keep releasing the game on a yearly basis.
    Moving to new models or a new engine would mean that they need an additional year, just like pro evolution soccer have done.
    As long as the game is sold well every year i really don't see them doing it.
    The money is obviously in the DD crowd, and at the end of the day SDS is just a business who needs to make money.
    I have no problem with that even though it means some or maybe even a lot of the things i want are not going to happen.
    I feel that if you'd ask the devellopers / programmers they would love to do lots of stuff, but in the end it's the suits that decide.
    Looking forward to the next gen stream.
    Caulfield
    sorry, no :(
    but I do have a vcr with a missing rewind button I'll let go super cheap, $75 & that's a steal at friends price :)

    Talking VCR, who was the best ? VHS or Beta ? :duel:
    Ok more seriously, received my PS5 Monday and installed MLB20. First I should say i transferred the game. The transfer between the 2 machines is better now where you can select which games to transfer and you get an exact copy will all your settings, saved games etc).
    As Armor mentioned earlier, MLB20 is playing really really smooth. The new controller helping, I find fielding easier. I’m playing on sharper mode now but I’ll probably see the biggest impact once I buy a 4K TV
    LastActionHero
    Good catch! That hasn’t been in the game thus far but maybe they just added it in for the trailer...?
    I think people will be happy when they see it's not just in the trailer. Without getting in trouble bc of the tech test, that's all I shall say.
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    Archie56
    I think people will be happy when they see it's not just in the trailer. Without getting in trouble bc of the tech test, that's all I shall say.

    The level of details in this game is killing me :-)
    Archie56
    I think people will be happy when they see it's not just in the trailer. Without getting in trouble bc of the tech test, that's all I shall say.
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    TripleCrown
    The level of details in this game is killing me :-)

    can't wait to get Dave Winfield playing at Toronto
    The only stream I’ve been waiting for is April 1st. That’ll be the deciding factor if I buy the game. Graphics have always been good to me and apparently I care about it way less than others. I’m also sticking with PS4 so
    The reason why some are happy with the graphics and some aren't isn't because you played it on the PS5. We are talking about completely different things. Frame rates and 4k etc isn't the graphical improvement people are looking for. Better player models, better hair and beards, better grass and dirt, more lifelike eyes and player facial expressions. You can't fix that with 4K or even 8k and it doesn't matter what the refresh rate is or how much the colors pop. These are fundamental graphical improvements we've waited for since the PS3. I agree with those who are disappointed, I've played 20 on PS5 and its pretty much the same as pS4 pro. The trailer was bad.
    The jump in graphical detail from pro to ps5 is awful...
    This is not the jump you expect in graphical quality
    Madden and NBA 2K next gen had far better graphical upgrade over last gen
    Lovesports
    The reason why some are happy with the graphics and some aren't isn't because you played it on the PS5. We are talking about completely different things. Frame rates and 4k etc isn't the graphical improvement people are looking for. Better player models, better hair and beards, better grass and dirt, more lifelike eyes and player facial expressions. You can't fix that with 4K or even 8k and it doesn't matter what the refresh rate is or how much the colors pop. These are fundamental graphical improvements we've waited for since the PS3. I agree with those who are disappointed, I've played 20 on PS5 and its pretty much the same as pS4 pro. The trailer was bad.

    Agreed. On top of that, the animations they are using are super dated. They look janky as hell in that trailer. Half the time it looks like the game is moving in slightly slow motion (pitching motions lack all urgency, power, and snap). The other half the animations look jerky and unrealistic.
    Of course none of that addresses the dumpster fire that Franchise mode is these days. As I've said before, I'll stick with OOTP, since the actual franchise is the most important thing to me. I'll just wait until OOTP slowly surpasses The Show in all other respects.
    Archie56
    I think people will be happy when they see it's not just in the trailer. Without getting in trouble bc of the tech test, that's all I shall say.

    TripleCrown
    The level of details in this game is killing me :-)

    Lovesports
    The reason why some are happy with the graphics and some aren't isn't because you played it on the PS5. We are talking about completely different things. Frame rates and 4k etc isn't the graphical improvement people are looking for. Better player models, better hair and beards, better grass and dirt, more lifelike eyes and player facial expressions. You can't fix that with 4K or even 8k and it doesn't matter what the refresh rate is or how much the colors pop. These are fundamental graphical improvements we've waited for since the PS3. I agree with those who are disappointed, I've played 20 on PS5 and its pretty much the same as pS4 pro. The trailer was bad.

    I agree 100%!
    But in order to do this it would mean a complete overhaul of player models etc. I think they do not have the time / team for this as long as they keep releasing the game every year, which they will since it makes them a lot of money.
    If these things are going to be changed, they would have to skip the game for 1 year, giving them more time to work on it.
    This is what pes (a soccer game) has done this year. They released their game this year as a small season update (basicically some gameplay optimization and new rosters), priced low, while taking the extra year to switch to a new game engine and produce their game for the ps5.
    I wouldn't mind if SDS did the same.
    Lovesports
    The reason why some are happy with the graphics and some aren't isn't because you played it on the PS5. We are talking about completely different things. Frame rates and 4k etc isn't the graphical improvement people are looking for. Better player models, better hair and beards, better grass and dirt, more lifelike eyes and player facial expressions. You can't fix that with 4K or even 8k and it doesn't matter what the refresh rate is or how much the colors pop. These are fundamental graphical improvements we've
    waited for since the PS3. I agree with those who are disappointed, I've played 20 on PS5 and its pretty much the same as pS4 pro. The trailer was bad.

    Yeah idk there’s never a moment I’m playing 20 and think about any of that (grass, dirt, hair ect). I’m sure if it was added I’d think “that’s cool” but never really crosses my mind 🤷
    TheBleedingRed21
    They have went over quite a bit of great changes to hitting, pitching, and fielding. There has been a fully customizable stadium creator added. There has been a NEW platform completely added and supported. Have you even watched, read, or attempted to research the improvements?
    I never understood why you come back here year after year, you are never happy, probably one of the most unhappiest posters I have seen around any forums to be quite honest. Maybe it is just tradition at this point.
    You can tell some of you don't remember the days before it was "all about graphics". I rarely see anyone ask what performance changes are we going to see, what load times are we looking at. It's all been fussing over the graphics which are already stellar, just need new player models.
    Clearly you don't read. I've mentioned time and again that I think this is the best baseball game I've ever played. God forbid someone actually air out what needs to be fixed here without getting insulted.
    Yes, I focus on the negative. Why? Because most of you are so busy giving sds their props that you forget that there are areas that need improvement. Yes, I'm in the minority, I get it and that's fine.
    But remember this... Criticism breeds improvement. Complacency breeds inaction.
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    Padgoi

    Yes, I focus on the negative. Why? Because most of you are so busy giving sds their props that you forget that there are areas that need improvement.
    But remember this... Criticism breeds improvement.
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    MOST of us aren’t busy giving them props. There’s a lot of constructive criticism on these boards. I’m not sure criticism removed the comeback code. Will just have to wait for this years release, huh?
    KnightTemplar
    MOST of us aren’t busy giving them props. There’s a lot of constructive criticism on these boards. I’m not sure criticism removed the comeback code. Will just have to wait for this years release, huh?
    Ah yes, and the childish "comeback code" crowd. Once again, God forbid someone air out their feelings without getting insulted. Unreal.
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    Not here to bang on The Show but definitely expected a bigger jump with the player faces, expressions, dirt, grass and overall atmosphere with this going to the 5. Still on the fence but im leaning No pending an extensive update to franchise mode (not holding my breath)

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