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Madden NFL 22 Scouting - EA Play Live 2021

The third episode of the EA’s spotlight series is all about Madden NFL 22 scouting in franchise mode. Executive producer Seann Graddy, Franchise producer Tom Lischke, and Franchise game designer Andre Weingarten discuss their vision and provide plenty of details.

The actual scouting discussion doesn’t start until the 47:57 mark, so check it out and let us know your thoughts. We’ll have a feature on it soon.

Franchise Mode

  • Madden NFL 22 is taking that idea to a new level by putting the voice of the player at the heart of the development process earlier than ever via the Madden Design Council.
  • The team is taking feedback on YouTube, Twitter, etc. to heart and added highly requested features like Staff Management, weekly game strategy and a new scenario engine
  • The team outlined the major updates already in Madden NFL 22, including X Factor Customization, Playoff Bracket and Commissioner Controls

Scouting

  • The team worked on an overall revamp of the feature, moving away from the scouting point system
  • The feature allows players to make key decisions throughout the season that progress every single player on your board at different points
  • Players will move up and down on the draft board, based on media reception, etc.
  • AI will draft players based on those changes and the overall perception of the players
  • The Madden team implemented a new feature called Focus Scouting
  • Players will be assigned a talent range for consideration in the NFL Draft

The new Madden NFL 22 scouting feature will be released in September, through a live service update. Unfortunately, users will have to restart their franchise after the update.

The Standard Edition of Madden NFL 22 releases on August 20. Fans that pre-order the Dynasty or MVP Edition will get it on August 17. Madden NFL 22 early access arrives for EA Play subscribers on August 12.

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  1. So they didn't really detail the actual scouting reports. Will it reveal ratings or letter grades or are there actual reports on players? Hopefully it's actual reports and not just grades or ratings.
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    oneamongthefence
    So they didn't really detail the actual scouting reports. Will it reveal ratings or letter grades or are there actual reports on players? Hopefully it's actual reports and not just grades or ratings.
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    Yeah I'm surprised they didn't show that.
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    Seems like it could be an awesome feature, love the organic nature of the draft board(s) based on the amount of scouting done by the teams in the league... really looking forward to how the ebb and flow of the season feels.
    Scouting sounds like it will be a lot better than it is now. What I wonder is will we be able to trick the cpu about who we are actually looking to draft?
    SouthernWarrior
    Wait, so I can't SCOUT my players as accurately as I want bc the closer I get 100% accuracy the higher up they move on a draft board?
    That seems pretty lame.
    Sounds like it works the same for all other teams as well. So if another team goes all in on a player you'll know about it too. At least that's the impression I got.
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    oneamongthefence
    Sounds like it works the same for all other teams as well. So if another team goes all in on a player you'll know about it too. At least that's the impression I got.
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    Also seems like it's more the idea of only being able to hide sleepers so much. If you're sending top guys to go see some random player all the time, people are going to take notice. In concept, I'm fine with it, but obviously need to see how it works.
    oneamongthefence
    Sounds like it works the same for all other teams as well. So if another team goes all in on a player you'll know about it too. At least that's the impression I got.
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    Didn't sound like that to me at all, unless you're doing a user league.
    SouthernWarrior
    Didn't sound like that to me at all, unless you're doing a user league.
    Wouldn't the mock drafts be a giveaway? If you saw the Bills looking heavily into a WR who was projected in the sixth round with their national scout or doing private workouts the mock draft might have them taking him in the 1st so you might be able to guess that he might be pretty good. It's conjecture though at this point.
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    Sounds good. Wish they could have shown a little more detail.
    The ending really peaked my interest where they didn’t reveal anything else coming down the road but they mentioned something about not just telling your teams story but the leagues story. And then they kind of talked about the complication of the franchise hub.
    Fingers crossed we get some sort of league news source besides the current news tab.
    Wonder if at some point we get an anticipated timeline of the new features they want to add this year. They said they are hoping for 3 rounds again.
    Cowboy008
    Scouting sounds like it will be a lot better than it is now. What I wonder is will we be able to trick the cpu about who we are actually looking to draft?

    It appears that way. Seems you can direct cpu teams' focus toward a player you've little to no interest in drafting. It's a good ploy if you have all intentions of trading down and want the best possible compensation.
    My biggest question is will CPU teams now make trades with each other to move up and down before and during the draft in reaction to mocks.
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    Nothing has changed for me. Still pretty excited to crack this game open….in September. Excited to see future plans for the mode. Really hope all the new additions work out well.
    Loved what was said about scouting. Gonna add a huge amount of strategy to our 32 man franchise. Gonna be fun to see how players go about things. Gonna be fun to try and hide that 6th round gem. It's almost impossible to do it currently with how scouting works now. 32 players find them all. Curious to see the info that gets revealed on the player profiles.
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    jmurphy31
    Sounds good. Wish they could have shown a little more detail.
    The ending really peaked my interest where they didn’t reveal anything else coming down the road but they mentioned something about not just telling your teams story but the leagues story. And then they kind of talked about the complication of the franchise hub.
    Fingers crossed we get some sort of league news source besides the current news tab.
    Wonder if at some point we get an anticipated timeline of the new features they want to add this year. They said they are hoping for 3 rounds again.
    Contract system or some sort of minicamp addition would be my guess for the last most requested feature if they decide to do it this year.
    I think contracts would be the better feature but training camp stuff would move the needle more for a lot of people.
    But either way this makes for an exciting year of playing franchise finally after years of really having to force myself to play franchise more than a few seasons without losing interest.
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    SouthernWarrior
    Wait, so I can't SCOUT my players as accurately as I want bc the closer I get 100% accuracy the higher up they move on a draft board?
    That seems pretty lame.

    It sounded to me like you can scout them as accurately as you want, but doing so makes other teams notice you are doing so.
    I mean, the entire world noticed when Kyle Shanahan was at Mac Jones' work out, so what's so lame about this? It makes a lot of sense to me.
    Right so...
    We got some decent information in their YouTube broadcast about certain events happening (and these are cool things, make no mistake about it), about less tedium, but absolutely NOTHING about what the scouts actually tell you.
    Are we still getting the lame *** three letter grades? Are we getting messages like in Deuce Douglas' mockups? Nothing about the mechanics was discussed.
    I really didn't learn as much as I was hoping for here. Ugh. Guess it's back to waiting for a more deeper discussion. Was looking forward to this day to get the entire story on the new addition. Instead we got a brief overview, and a video mostly talking about how they finally listened to Franchise fans. :brickwall
    jmurphy31
    Sounds good. Wish they could have shown a little more detail.
    The ending really peaked my interest where they didn’t reveal anything else coming down the road but they mentioned something about not just telling your teams story but the leagues story. And then they kind of talked about the complication of the franchise hub.
    Fingers crossed we get some sort of league news source besides the current news tab.
    Wonder if at some point we get an anticipated timeline of the new features they want to add this year. They said they are hoping for 3 rounds again.

    That's my main gripe here. I was pleasantly surprised to see the mock drafts and the implications of what you choose to do with your scouts, but I was hoping for more about the actual mechanics, and more importantly, the feedback you get from your scouts. Do we get SPARQ scores? Do we get messages about player skill sets? Do we get lame *** letter grades again?
    Really, nothing was given about the finer details, and frankly, while I'm thrilled about some of the things they mentioned, I'm quite disappointed in their broadcast due to the dearth of information.
    Hopefully we will get some more info on the podcast this week and in the Gridiron Notes as well.
    Although a lot of people here aren't going to care about it, but it's clear in this show and in all the podcast that Swami and the other Franchise heads know that no matter how complex they make any new Franchise feature there has to be an easy way for casual players to interact with it. Any feature that is too abstruse will probably not be greenlit so their design philosophy has to be all encompassing.
    Tom talking about the importance of your story in Franchise is a big positive for me. The league guys may feel like, "whatever", but for solo players, it's arguably the most important part of the mode. They seem to have remembered that being immersed in the whole league is a vital component to the mode.
    Scouting not having to be attended to weekly in order to get optimum outcomes will probably be a big hit with a lot of people.
    Sending your national scout to watch the lower projected player causing an increased awareness of that player on the national stage is a great addition to me. Shutting your scouting on a player early to try and keep him under the radar and risking not finding out a red flag about him with more scouting is a nice risk/reward game IMO.
    On Twitter Swami said that it should be pretty difficult to get 100% info on more than a handful of players every year. I know that folks here want even more opaqueness than what will be there, but it's clear that they want people to still be able to have some absolute certainty on at least some players.
    Them hinting at some unrevealed stuff to come is interesting of course, and this is me just speculating off of a brief statement by Tom but I would expect Free Agency and Trading to get some work for next year, unless those things are addressed in the updates later in the year.
    jfsolo
    Hopefully we will get some more info on the podcast this week and in the Gridiron Notes as well.
    Although a lot of people here aren't going to care about it, but it's clear in this show and in all the podcast that Swami and the other Franchise heads know that no matter how complex they make any new Franchise feature there has to be an easy way for casual players to interact with it. Any feature that is too abstruse will probably not be greenlit so their design philosophy has to be all encompassing.
    Tom talking about the importance of your story in Franchise is a big positive for me. The league guys may feel like, "whatever", but for solo players, it's arguably the most important part of the mode. They seem to have remembered that being immersed in the whole league is a vital component to the mode.
    Scouting not having to be attended to weekly in order to get optimum outcomes will probably be a big hit with a lot of people.
    Sending your national scout to watch the lower projected player causing an increased awareness of that player on the national stage is a great addition to me. Shutting your scouting on a player early to try and keep him under the radar and risking not finding out a red flag about him with more scouting is a nice risk/reward game IMO.
    On Twitter Swami said that it should be pretty difficult to get 100% info on more than a handful of players every year. I know that folks here want even more opaqueness than what will be there, but it's clear that they want people to still be able to have some absolute certainty on at least some players.
    Them hinting at some unrevealed stuff to come is interesting of course, and this is me just speculating off of a brief statement by Tom but I would expect Free Agency and Trading to get some work for next year, unless those things are addressed in the updates later in the year.

    The fact that you don't have to click on players every week is such a MASSIVE upgrade. That isn't how it works in real life, and it's absolute tedium in the game now.
    I just hope that you get some information about their physical abilities before the combine, and I hope the messages you get from scouts aren't simply letter grades. If they do that, this will be an absolute coup for Franchise fans.
    Swami is a freaking legend. I have so much respect for him. Between this and the podcasts it's very clear that his passion and knowledge are a major driving force behind madden getting better. The amount of detail added to this is really great.
    It's easy to sit back and say that #fixmaddenfranchise resulted in change, but if the people making the game weren't as passionate as Swami and Deuce are then this stuff wouldn't be happening.
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    It sounded to me like you can scout them as accurately as you want, but doing so makes other teams notice you are doing so.
    I mean, the entire world noticed when Kyle Shanahan was at Mac Jones' work out, so what's so lame about this? It makes a lot of sense to me.

    I just struggle to see how the CPU will actually work with this strategy. The Madden AI has never been really smart
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    Right so...
    We got some decent information in their YouTube broadcast about certain events happening (and these are cool things, make no mistake about it), about less tedium, but absolutely NOTHING about what the scouts actually tell you.
    Are we still getting the lame *** three letter grades? Are we getting messages like in Deuce Douglas' mockups? Nothing about the mechanics was discussed.
    I really didn't learn as much as I was hoping for here. Ugh. Guess it's back to waiting for a more deeper discussion. Was looking forward to this day to get the entire story on the new addition. Instead we got a brief overview, and a video mostly talking about how they finally listened to Franchise fans. :brickwall

    Yup. I wish we could get a 10 minute video fo them just going through a week. Seems to like it's still the 3 grade system, but I am really hoping for the old "scouting card" they used to have.
    SouthernWarrior
    The scouting expert guy (Swami?) seems very passionate, but the other 2 guys seemed sorta annoyed to have to be talking about franchise so much. :D

    How can you not love the internet?
    SouthernWarrior
    The scouting expert guy (Swami?) seems very passionate, but the other 2 guys seemed sorta annoyed to have to be talking about franchise so much. :D

    Maybe it's because they are among the dotards who have been holding Franchise back all these years?:y9:
    SouthernWarrior
    The scouting expert guy (Swami?) seems very passionate, but the other 2 guys seemed sorta annoyed to have to be talking about franchise so much. :D
    Weird how differently people see the same thing. I didnt get that impression at all. As far as the others being annoyed. Swami being passionate is 100% true
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    SouthernWarrior
    I just struggle to see how the CPU will actually work with this strategy. The Madden AI has never been really smart

    Well, let's find out before we write it off. Seems like they put a ton of work into this. I'm sure they are doing their best to make sure it will work right.
    charter04
    Weird how differently people see the same thing. I didnt get that impression at all. As far as the others being annoyed. Swami being passionate is 100% true
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    Yep, I was hoping that no one would bring that kind of nonsensical Twitter type analysis here, but I guess it was too much to ask for. Some folks are always looking for something to be negative about.
    Man I'm psyched for this feature and Madden 22 as a whole. I was hoping for more details but everything they did say sounds good to me. I love the mock drafts and players moving up and down based on how they're playing. I'm wondering how this will affect custom draft classes.
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    The new scouting sounds awesome! It's weird that they don't have the Franchise roadmap already laid out, unless it's because they just don't want to confirm anything right now.
    jfsolo
    Yep, I was hoping that no one would bring that kind of nonsensical Twitter type analysis here, but I guess it was too much to ask for. Some folks are always looking for something to be negative about.

    Or it's just someone having an opinion? I've never seen these guys before in interviews, that was just my OPINION.
    PVarck31
    Well, let's find out before we write it off. Seems like they put a ton of work into this. I'm sure they are doing their best to make sure it will work right.

    We'll see. Given their history I expect it will be pretty glitch heavy to start, but hopefully I'm wrong.
    Just watched the stream, and liked a lot of what I heard. Wish they had more scouting footage and showed us the week to week progress instead of just explaining it to us. Assuming it all works as intended, this going to be a massive gain for the franchise guys.
    Not a MUT guy, but as of now I'm all for the live service updates. I'd rather wait a few months for an additional feature if it means that we won't have to wait for the next iteration of madden to get that feature. As much as would like to have it at launch, I'd rather wait a few weeks than a whole year. From that perspective, I can't see how people cannot like the live service updates.
    How is this gonna work with imported draft classes as the news for your draft picks stopped as soon as you imported them in 21. This,will be a concern of mine
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    convince
    Wow, that 5'10 210 lb DE ranked 5th clearly shows improvement.
    The players in the mocks are obvious placeholders. I wouldn't be surprised if they were EA employees themselves.
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    canes21
    The players in the mocks are obvious placeholders. I wouldn't be surprised if they were EA employees themselves.
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    I mean it should be obvious to these people, and yet... You can tell when someone’s a troll by how inexplicably stupid their post is.
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    SouthernWarrior
    I just struggle to see how the CPU will actually work with this strategy. The Madden AI has never been really smart

    So I doubt there's a CPU AI algorithm devoted to pursuing a position, seeing you want the same position, and competing with you for it--maybe there is, but I doubt it.
    What it sounds like will happen is that if you key in on a talented sleeper, the "media" takes notice and the global draft board changes. That player moves up the global draft board, which triggers CPU AI to take notice of him and perhaps invest more resources in also figuring him out.
    Hopefully they continue to iterate on all this new stuff. That's been a sore point for years with franchise. They add new stuff and leave it as is which makes it grow stale after a few years. Continue building out these new features and the franchise community will keep eating this stuff up.
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    Loved almost everything about that. The most interesting thing to me is how the “media” will notice what you’re doing with your national scout, and that will cause adjustments in the scouting functionality.
    I wouldn’t be surprised if a News overhaul is going to be the 2nd or 3rd Live Service update this year. They did give News prime placement in the Franchise Hub (it’s the second tab!) for the first time in ages…
    Much needed and would be much appreciated. NBA2k’s “news” system does wonders for the immersion, building the world of your league. A dynamic and adaptive news engine for Madden I imagine would be somewhat less difficult to design than the entire scouting functionality.
    Not that big of a deal as it can be edited by draft class creators right now I'd rather they focus on getting all the highly requested highly more important features added in over the next couple years 1st to get franchise where it needs to be then then they can turn there attention to stuff like you mentioned below..
    it's a multi year process for franchise for the next few years until it gets to where it should be so there time to get this in just be patience...
    DaJuan
    Drafted rookies got still the same generic faces* since severals years...
    That's a shame

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    The trolling at this point is just laughable. After years of justified frustration from the community it seems some people have no interest in the game actually getting better and just have fun complaining.
    I'm looking forward to hearing more details in the podcast this week. I love that combine, pro days, and private visits are all a part of the scouting process now.
    PhillyPhanatic14
    The trolling at this point is just laughable. After years of justified frustration from the community it seems some people have no interest in the game actually getting better and just have fun complaining.
    I'm looking forward to hearing more details in the podcast this week. I love that combine, pro days, and private visits are all a part of the scouting process now.

    Just ignore all the noise. It is so predictable at this point.
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    PhillyPhanatic14
    The trolling at this point is just laughable. After years of justified frustration from the community it seems some people have no interest in the game actually getting better and just have fun complaining.
    I'm looking forward to hearing more details in the podcast this week. I love that combine, pro days, and private visits are all a part of the scouting process now.

    One reason why I've stopped watching Ryan Moody's videos. Between him pushing Maximum Football which turned out to be garbage and not acknowledging the actual progress being made it's clear he just wants to hate regardless.
    dh13king
    him pushing Maximum Football which turned out to be garbage

    That's the most hilarious part of his channel and why he has zero authenticity or credibility. The game he gushes over would have been the worst football game on the market 10 years ago by a wide margin. Criticize Madden, fine, EA deserves a lot of what they get. But at some point it's just about a narrative and not about reality and Maximum Football is the proof of that.
    I wonder if there will still be busts even after scouting someone 100%. Even the best scouts in the world miss on guys sometimes. It should also work the other way around, Tom Brady wasn’t missed just because of a lack of scouting, it was because people couldn’t see the intangibles.
    canes21
    The players in the mocks are obvious placeholders. I wouldn't be surprised if they were EA employees themselves.
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    I can't lie I did send Swami a Tweet a while back when we first saw that screen with that 5'10" 210 elite DE, saying that it was giving me anxiety. He laughed in response, but I do hope for some tuning in that area as many height/weight combos for a lot of positions aren't really done well, especially for many of the top tier prospects. For example 75% of the scrambling QBs should not be 5' 11", Russell Wilson is an outlier, not the archetype.
    I wonder if all of the scouting elements will play out with custom draft classes. Hopefully so. There will be no secrets which QB I will be scouting and bringing in.
    Balldude777
    I wonder if there will still be busts even after scouting someone 100%. Even the best scouts in the world miss on guys sometimes. It should also work the other way around, Tom Brady wasn’t missed just because of a lack of scouting, it was because people couldn’t see the intangibles.
    How would that work in a video game when we are controlling the players. Like there are only so many variables. If I draft a QB then I'm the one reading the defense and deciding who to throw to. So if guy has certain ratings what else could be done to have a "bust"? I'm curious. I'm not being facetious.
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    dh13king
    One reason why I've stopped watching Ryan Moody's videos. Between him pushing Maximum Football which turned out to be garbage and not acknowledging the actual progress being made it's clear he just wants to hate regardless.

    He’s not doing it for hate, he’s doing it for money.
    The guy is a joke. A slug. A petulant child with an agenda. He's conned many. No interest in the truth. Just pay back for a perceived slight.
    Nothing he says should be given any weight by those interested in seeing Madden get better
    C
    dh13king
    One reason why I've stopped watching Ryan Moody's videos. Between him pushing Maximum Football which turned out to be garbage and not acknowledging the actual progress being made it's clear he just wants to hate regardless.

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    capa
    The guy is a joke. A slug. A petulant child with an agenda. He's conned many. No interest in the truth. Just pay back for a perceived slight.
    Nothing he says should be given any weight by those interested in seeing Madden get better
    C
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    Not defending him but he has given EA praise on the franchise stuff.
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    charter04
    How would that work in a video game when we are controlling the players. Like there are only so many variables. If I draft a QB then I'm the one reading the defense and deciding who to throw to. So if guy has certain ratings what else could be done to have a "bust"? I'm curious. I'm not being facetious.
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    That's one of the benefits of doing Spectator/Coach Mode Franchises. That's a minority group tho as most people wanna actually play the game which I understand fully.
    charter04
    How would that work in a video game when we are controlling the players. Like there are only so many variables. If I draft a QB then I'm the one reading the defense and deciding who to throw to. So if guy has certain ratings what else could be done to have a "bust"? I'm curious. I'm not being facetious.
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    No doubt that’s a big outlier but I think if anything it would impact the CPU more so maybe a 5th, 6th draft pick becomes a top player quickly. Of course this is where a better news outlet would benefit along seeing these types of stories. Things like this emerging also would be great to see in pre-season camps.
    And vice versa that so called “savior” of a QB for the Jets becomes a bust.
    charter04
    How would that work in a video game when we are controlling the players. Like there are only so many variables. If I draft a QB then I'm the one reading the defense and deciding who to throw to. So if guy has certain ratings what else could be done to have a "bust"? I'm curious. I'm not being facetious.
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    The QB traits do affect QBs even when they are under User control. It's doesn't affect decision making in terms of when and who to throw the ball to, but the do affect release time and accuracy under pressure. The throw under pressure rating often is one that isn't revealed during scouting as well.
    IMO most Users don't have the pass rush settings realistically challenging enough(reducing it even slightly more than what we see in the NFL to account for the Madden QB POV) to make it tough to have great success with QBs with poor traits and a poor TUP rating.
    TarHeelPhenom
    That's one of the benefits of doing Spectator/Coach Mode Franchises. That's a minority group tho as most people wanna actually play the game which I understand fully.
    hey now lol...We are a strong minority though. We just love watching the roster we build flourish on the field organically. Enjoy both, but spectator and/or coach mode are blessings from the heavens for me.
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    GoJags904
    hey now lol...We are a strong minority though. We just love watching the roster we build flourish on the field organically. Enjoy both, but spectator and/or coach mode are blessings from the heavens for me.
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    Of which I am apart of currently lol! I must admit though...if they ever put in a good Broadcast Cam for User play, my days of spectating may come to an end lol. Even now, playing with the workaround on Broadcast is really fun.
    At any rate, yes, I agree with you...building your roster and watching it okay out on the field while all you do is "Coach" is equally immersive.
    GoJags904
    hey now lol...We are a strong minority though. We just love watching the roster we build flourish on the field organically. Enjoy both, but spectator and/or coach mode are blessings from the heavens for me.
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    I did my first sim/spectator mixed franchise a few months ago and rebuilt the Raiders. It was insanely satisfying to see them win the Super Bowl just based on the roster i constructed and not my ability to beat the CPU teams on the field.
    TarHeelPhenom
    Of which I am apart of currently lol! I must admit though...if they ever put in a good Broadcast Cam for User play, my days of spectating may come to an end lol. Even now, playing with the workaround on Broadcast is really fun.
    At any rate, yes, I agree with you...building your roster and watching it okay out on the field while all you do is "Coach" is equally immersive.
    Don't mention the camera because I'd lose it if they ever fixed it right lol. I like to switch every now and then and do all offense or defense but I have a ps5 and how does the workaround work?
    PhillyPhanatic14
    I did my first sim/spectator mixed franchise a few months ago and rebuilt the Raiders. It was insanely satisfying to see them win the Super Bowl just based on the roster i constructed and not my ability to beat the CPU teams on the field.
    Man I've been hooked for the past 3 years. It's satisfying as hell fr
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    GoJags904
    Don't mention the camera because I'd lose it if they ever fixed it right lol. I like to switch every now and then and do all offense or defense but I have a ps5 and how does the workaround work?Man I've been hooked for the past 3 years. It's satisfying as hell fr
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    On Broadcast Cam, when you get to the line if scrimmage, pick an outside receiver and click twice on the left stick and the camera will zoom far out and start to zoom back in very slow...giving you a chance to run the okay while viewing the entire field. It's really only necessary for pass plays.
    GoJags904
    Don't mention the camera because I'd lose it if they ever fixed it right lol. I like to switch every now and then and do all offense or defense but I have a ps5 and how does the workaround work?Man I've been hooked for the past 3 years. It's satisfying as hell fr
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    Should be even more fun now that scouting isn’t based on points.
    TarHeelPhenom
    On Broadcast Cam, when you get to the line if scrimmage, pick an outside receiver and click twice on the left stick and the camera will zoom far out and start to zoom back in very slow...giving you a chance to run the okay while viewing the entire field. It's really only necessary for pass plays.
    will try it today when I get off work
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    This all sounds pretty good to me.
    I particularly like the gamesmanship of having to figure out how much attention to draw to the fact that your team is sending top brass to see certain guys. We all know how big of a deal that is IRL, especially this past off-season.
    I generally like the way that scouting pairs with coaching talent trees to create areas of strength and weakness in player development.
    SolidSquid
    So why are the actual scouting reports? Are we getting letter grades or letter ranges or back to the comparison scouting of the old days?

    This wasn’t answered in the YouTube broadcast, but it was indicated that the degree to which you know a player depends on what you do with your scouts.
    I’m hoping for a one to one translation of Deuce Douglas’ most recent scouting wishlist video. Since he’s there, I’d hope he’s trying to implement some of it.
    As someone whose priority is 99.9% around 32-man leagues, the scouting info is super cool.
    32 guys in a 'slug' draft (i.e. we keep it paused and draft over a ~3 day period) with the new info around who's been sending scouts to see whom and having the mock draft reflect said public interest... that just introduced a whole new angle to our drafts.
    Since we don't rush through it all in 3 hours with whoever can be online but instead have all 32 guys login & make their picks in order, the opportunity to strategically trade up/down just got a LOOOOT more interesting. Very cool!
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    This wasn’t answered in the YouTube broadcast, but it was indicated that the degree to which you know a player depends on what you do with your scouts.
    I’m hoping for a one to one translation of Deuce Douglas’ most recent scouting wishlist video. Since he’s there, I’d hope he’s trying to implement some of it.

    I get that the “tiers” of the scouts matter now, I’m just asking what the actual information they bring you is. It’s weird to talk about the new scouting system but not really show us anything besides “it’s cool bc you can do smoke screens in 32 player leagues”
    Was hoping the actual scouting report was revamped guess we have to wait for more info.
    SolidSquid
    I get that the “tiers” of the scouts matter now, I’m just asking what the actual information they bring you is. It’s weird to talk about the new scouting system but not really show us anything besides “it’s cool bc you can do smoke screens in 32 player leagues”
    Was hoping the actual scouting report was revamped guess we have to wait for more info.

    Yeah me too. That was actually extremely agitating, since I'd been waiting for weeks to learn that specific information.
    I can't do the letter grades anymore. They have ravaged my soul and left me broken and bereft to the core. :y220:
    I am sure more of a deep dive for the new scouting system is forth coming.
    The most important thing I took from the brief nugget we got was “DYNAMIC”.
    I will await the podcast when I think they will get into the more nitty gritty.
    One thing is for certain. It is a total revamp. No more points and letter grades from everything they have revealed thus far.
    It is just my opinion, but I don't think that folks should be getting their hopes up too much yet about letter grades in scouting being gone. Until we see a player card showing something different, I'm not assuming that it has been changed.
    Unfortunately if the letter grades are still there it will lead to a lot of rhetoric about scouting still just being the same, but that's just how it is.
    jfsolo
    It is just my opinion, but I don't think that folks should be getting their hopes up too much yet about letter grades in scouting being gone. Until we see a player card showing something different, I'm not assuming that it has been changed.
    Unfortunately if the letter grades are still there it will lead to a lot of rhetoric about scouting still just being the same, but that's just how it is.

    If scouting is the same 3 best letter grades, there’s no rhetoric it’s literally the same thing with a fresh coat of pain
    What are you guys hoping to see besides letter grades? NBA uses letter grades and does a nice job with. Are we referring to like just revealing the top 3? Or what?
    I would like to see a letter grade range similar to HC series. Based on the scouts ability and dynamic (changing as you learn more). I definitely don’t want concrete values.
    Is it at all possible to re-build the foundation, before layering with bricks and the rooftop and allow Swami and Deuce to perform their magic or no?
    Anyone hear Deuce in the podcast that a billion dollar company won't just add everything all at once, it will take time to build.
    And yes, this even with the caveat that there has been time squandered since Madden 12.
    And, they admitted they were saving this for the next Madden and decided to add to this one.
    roadman
    Is it at all possible to re-build the foundation, before layering with bricks and the rooftop and allow Swami and Deuce to perform their magic or no?
    Anyone hear Deuce in the podcast that a billion dollar company won't just add everything all at once, it will take time to build.
    And yes, this even with the caveat that there has been time squandered since Madden 12.
    And, they admitted they were saving this for the next Madden and decided to add to this one.

    Guess it just depends who you ask. There’s a whole litany of “3 year plans” for madden going way back. Don’t blame anyone for being optimistic but can’t blame anyone for being pessimistic either.
    SolidSquid
    If scouting is the same 3 best letter grades, there’s no rhetoric it’s literally the same thing with a fresh coat of pain

    I didn't say just 3 best letter grades, if the letter grades are still there I'm expecting there to be a lot more than 3 now something like 10+, with variability of the range and final accuracy based on the abilities of the scout. They may add some notes, but IMO they aren't going to totally abandon letter grades.
    I thought I heard them make mention during the video, with regards to the Big Boards being dynamic, that there will be type updates like "player has been dominant in his last three college games"... something to that effect. What I'm hoping for is more text based feedback. An example being, when a scout goes to see a player and returns with his evaluation he says something like "I wasn't too impressed with his agility. He may struggle getting off blocks at the next level." For me, having something like that to go along with the letter grades would be great.
    SolidSquid
    Guess it just depends who you ask. There’s a whole litany of “3 year plans” for madden going way back. Don’t blame anyone for being optimistic but can’t blame anyone for being pessimistic either.

    I guess a person can keep on looking in the rear view mirror all they want, or listen to the transparency they have displaying this year.
    All comes down to personal choices.
    roadman
    I guess a person can keep on looking in the rear view mirror all they want, or listen to the transparency they have displaying this year.
    All comes down to personal choices.

    Roadman I know you're much more optimistic than most of us here, but there's a difference between looking in the rear view and just managing expectations based on past experiences.
    I'm as hopeful as the next guy that Madden and EA have turned over a new leaf with transparency and caring about franchise, but lets have them prove it first.
    Dblock1111
    Roadman I know you're much more optimistic than most of us here, but there's a difference between looking in the rear view and just managing expectations based on past experiences.
    I'm as hopeful as the next guy that Madden and EA have turned over a new leaf with transparency and caring about franchise, but lets have them prove it first.

    Well stated. Really miss the way this place used to be when you could discuss things
    Dblock1111
    Roadman I know you're much more optimistic than most of us here, but there's a difference between looking in the rear view and just managing expectations based on past experiences.
    I'm as hopeful as the next guy that Madden and EA have turned over a new leaf with transparency and caring about franchise, but lets have them prove it first.
    As a Pack fan right now you gotta be optimistic about something right now.
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    Dblock1111
    Roadman I know you're much more optimistic than most of us here, but there's a difference between looking in the rear view and just managing expectations based on past experiences.
    I'm as hopeful as the next guy that Madden and EA have turned over a new leaf with transparency and caring about franchise, but lets have them prove it first.

    Actually, Dblock1111, you couldn't be further from the truth and I hate like hell to be called out on that especially when I know it isn't true. I stopped posting here from the beginning of Feb. through May because I didn't have anything to add. Maybe I should do the same if people feel that I'm still that happy go lucky Madden guy. Sounds like reps are difficult to shake.
    I haven't played Madden since this past January(and that is a record for me) because I didn't like how it was playing, so, you must be going on some old old news.
    That's all I am saying on both sides, wait till the scouting comes out and see what they add throughout the year and down the road before kicking it to the curb or praising it. (ie building the foundation anyone? etc..)(looks like we both agree here)
    Sorry SS, I am a more optimistic person in life vs a pessimistic person, just my dna. You are free to discuss all you want.
    roadman
    Actually, Dblock1111, you couldn't be further from the truth and I hate like hell to be called out on that especially when I know it isn't true. I stopped posting here from the beginning of Feb. through May because I didn't have anything to add. Maybe I should do the same if people feel that I'm still that happy go lucky Madden guy. Sounds like reps are difficult to shake.
    I haven't played Madden since this past January(and that is a record for me) because I didn't like how it was playing, so, you must be going on some old old news.
    That's all I am saying on both sides, wait till the scouting comes out and see what they add throughout the year and down the road before kicking it to the curb or praising it. (ie building the foundation anyone? etc..)(looks like we both agree here)
    Sorry SS, I am a more optimistic person in life vs a pessimistic person, just my dna. You are free to discuss all you want.

    All good Road wasn’t a shot at you just the vibe in general over the past years, I’ve been around since Ian Cummings used to be in here lol maybe I’m just old now
    roadman
    Actually, Dblock1111, you couldn't be further from the truth and I hate like hell to be called out on that especially when I know it isn't true. I stopped posting here from the beginning of Feb. through May because I didn't have anything to add. Maybe I should do the same if people feel that I'm still that happy go lucky Madden guy. Sounds like reps are difficult to shake.
    I haven't played Madden since this past January(and that is a record for me) because I didn't like how it was playing, so, you must be going on some old old news.
    That's all I am saying on both sides, wait till the scouting comes out and see what they add throughout the year and down the road before kicking it to the curb or praising it. (ie building the foundation anyone? etc..)(looks like we both agree here)
    Sorry SS, I am a more optimistic person in life vs a pessimistic person, just my dna. You are free to discuss all you want.

    That means you’ll live longer most likely.
    roadman
    Actually, Dblock1111, you couldn't be further from the truth and I hate like hell to be called out on that especially when I know it isn't true. I stopped posting here from the beginning of Feb. through May because I didn't have anything to add. Maybe I should do the same if people feel that I'm still that happy go lucky Madden guy. Sounds like reps are difficult to shake.
    I haven't played Madden since this past January(and that is a record for me) because I didn't like how it was playing, so, you must be going on some old old news.
    That's all I am saying on both sides, wait till the scouting comes out and see what they add throughout the year and down the road before kicking it to the curb or praising it. (ie building the foundation anyone? etc..)(looks like we both agree here)
    Sorry SS, I am a more optimistic person in life vs a pessimistic person, just my dna. You are free to discuss all you want.

    Definitely not trying to call you out or put words in your mouth Road, I know you're a good member of this community and always give some great feedback.
    I'm in the same boat as you, only played sparingly since MLB The Show came out, and really haven't been active here until the madden 22 cycle started back up. Like I said, I'm as hopeful as anyone this will be the start of a true rebuilding complete with transparency and a focus on franchise mode. I'm definitely just in more of a "show-don't-tell" mindset with Madden and EA (and all my video game devs really) than I've ever been before.
    SolidSquid
    All good Road wasn’t a shot at you just the vibe in general over the past years, I’ve been around since Ian Cummings used to be in here lol maybe I’m just old now

    Dude most of us are old asses around here LOL!!
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    Armor and Sword
    Dude most of us are old asses around here LOL!!
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    I've gotten very old waiting for Madden to make a decent franchise mode again... Light at the end of the tunnel but still feel it's 1 - 2 years away.
    roadman
    Actually, Dblock1111, you couldn't be further from the truth and I hate like hell to be called out on that especially when I know it isn't true. I stopped posting here from the beginning of Feb. through May because I didn't have anything to add. Maybe I should do the same if people feel that I'm still that happy go lucky Madden guy. Sounds like reps are difficult to shake.
    I haven't played Madden since this past January(and that is a record for me) because I didn't like how it was playing, so, you must be going on some old old news.
    That's all I am saying on both sides, wait till the scouting comes out and see what they add throughout the year and down the road before kicking it to the curb or praising it. (ie building the foundation anyone? etc..)(looks like we both agree here)
    Sorry SS, I am a more optimistic person in life vs a pessimistic person, just my dna. You are free to discuss all you want.

    I feel you, man. I'm in the exact same boat--I played the heck out of Madden 21 when I first got my next gen, but it started to wear on me a little. Some of the adjustments were wonderful, but the passing game still frustrated the hell out of me. I've usually gone back to Madden at this point in anticipation of the new game but I'm just hanging tight and waiting for 22 to drop. After several years of franchise not changing (until the new game), I've exhausted the joy I get from that mode.
    I am cautiously optimistic about how this year's game will be.
    I might be in the minority here but I don't particular care for this scouting addition until the NCAA Football Series comes back.
    That's when I will most likely have interest in the Madden drafts when we can get back to importing draft classes with the NCAA Players (real names/players).
    But it good's EA is getting a head start now so that by the time College football returns this new addition should be at top peak.
    I like what I have seen so far but one thing that wasn't mentioned which this game sorely needs is actual first round draft busts. It would add an actual layer of realism and difficulty to the game. We need there to be a Josh Rosen or Dwayne Haskins.
    Sheba2011
    I like what I have seen so far but one thing that wasn't mentioned which this game sorely needs is actual first round draft busts. It would add an actual layer of realism and difficulty to the game. We need there to be a Josh Rosen or Dwayne Haskins.

    Agreed. It was impossible to draft a bust as long as scouting was done.
    Sheba2011
    I like what I have seen so far but one thing that wasn't mentioned which this game sorely needs is actual first round draft busts. It would add an actual layer of realism and difficulty to the game. We need there to be a Josh Rosen or Dwayne Haskins.

    Low dev is probably the closest we can get to a bust.
    Sheba2011
    I like what I have seen so far but one thing that wasn't mentioned which this game sorely needs is actual first round draft busts. It would add an actual layer of realism and difficulty to the game. We need there to be a Josh Rosen or Dwayne Haskins.

    Hopefully if not this year, down the line, I hope scouting plays a role in that...the Scout in particular. Depending on how good or bad your scout is they can provide you inaccurate info. They can overrate a player who ends up being that 1st round bust or undervalue a player who ends up being a gem.

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