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"The last two QBs rated 90 or above are Russell Wilson and Andrew Luck"
Russel's in the top 7 what are you talking about? It says it in the honorable mentions in that link
i dont have enough posts to post the link but use that to see all the ratings for all the players
Actually works, pretty interesting!
Smack dab in the middle
https://www.easports.com/madden-nfl/player-card/n50c3544b47jis8verupuaopos?entityType=madden18_player&iteration=1&sk1=awr&sk2=spd&sk3=acc&sk4=agi&sk5=str
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Really? What makes you come to this conclusion?
Rodgers is better than Brady, simple.
Obvious a Green Bay packer fan .. your entitled to that opinion. I'm just curious if you have stats to back that up.... Rings, QB rating, wins, etc?????
Ha, rings=over rated.
The debate begins again for the umpteeth time in a ratings thread. lol
If rings are a measuring stick, Dan Marino is the most over rated QB in the HOF.
Nah, there are pros and cons to each side.
The debate begins again for the umpteeth time in a ratings thread. lol
If rings are a measuring stick, Dan Marino is the most over rated QB in the HOF.
Nah, there are pros and cons to each side.
Show me the stats.... QB rating, wins. Rodgers is more athletic , but I think that's where the debate ends.
Looks solid. No face view might mean no face scan tho?
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N/M, back in Madden '12 and Madden '09, he was rated 99.
Brady being rated 1 point higher than Rodgers is only "a joke" if you're a Packers fan, hate Tom Brady, or a mixture of both.
An argument could be made on either side. Rodgers has more physical talent than Brady, accumulated more yards, more touchdowns, and a Rodgers highlight reel is probably more impressive than a Brady highlight reel... but last year Brady was more accurate than Rodgers, threw fewer interceptions (the best TD:INT ratio in NFL history), threw more yards per game, had a lower sack percentage, much better QB efficiency (y/comp & y/att -- Rodgers is actually out of the top 20, well behind the other 90+ QBs), lead more 4th quarter comebacks, won more games, and while Rodgers was at home watching reruns of "Attack of the Show," Brady was leading the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history.
One is 99, one is 98. It's not a joke either way, an argument could be made in either case. Heck, a case could be made for Matt Ryan as well, who was the league's MVP and deserved it. He played better than Brady and Rodgers for most of the season in 2016.
Hate to say it... 5 rings. Larger SB comeback ever. I'm surprised he wasn't the first 100 OVR
They are all good in my book.
My only point before the pitchforks came out, lol, was that rings are a good measuring stick,sure, but
there are exceptions of Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Fran Tarkenton and Warren Moon.
Bradys great but..
Just switch the two qbs, Brady wouldnt be able to create the plays Rodgers does and wouldnt have GM/coach Belicheck to cater to him, (without Brady the Pats are 14-6). If the Pats had rodgers theyd still have won the superbowl but wouldnt have had to come from behind like they did.
Again, Bradys great but..
Just switch the two qbs, Brady wouldnt be able to create the plays Rodgers does and wouldnt have GM/coach Belicheck to cater to him, (without Brady the Pats are 14-6). If the Pats had rodgers theyd still have won the superbowl but wouldnt have had to come from behind like they did.
Again, Bradys great but..
Where still debating this....... ..... if the packers had Brady maybe they would have made it to the Super Bowl last year..... lol:59:
Ok, now were resorting to tactics...
Not unless Brady can play all 11 positions on defense.
:popcorn::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Just switch the two qbs, Brady wouldnt be able to create the plays Rodgers does and wouldnt have GM/coach Belicheck to cater to him, (without Brady the Pats are 14-6). If the Pats had rodgers theyd still have won the superbowl but wouldnt have had to come from behind like they did.
Again, Bradys great but..
"Brady's great but it's a joke that Brady is 99 and Rodgers is 98"
It's 1 point... that doesn't even matter. Probably has to do with the new "Girlfriend Rating" that EA implemented. Good thing for Rodgers is that his rating actually went up since him and Munn broke up (was a 34 last year, up to a 66 this year... Brady is still a 97 though).
Dude, the only way to tell who's better would be to put them on the same team against the same team and see who does better
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It's 1 point... that doesn't even matter. Probably has to do with the new "Girlfriend Rating" that EA implemented. Good thing for Rodgers is that his rating actually went up since him and Munn broke up (was a 34 last year, up to a 66 this year... Brady is still a 97 though).
Rodgers has the highest QB rating in regular and postseason history, best TD:INT ratio ever, will be the 1st QB with 300 TD before 100 INT, he has 297 TD, 72 INT. He can make throws that only he and he alone can make, he can make plays with his feet as well.
And don't even make the tired "Rings" argument. Brady has NEVER won a SB without a top 10 defense, Rodgers has had a bottom 10 D his whole career, the 1 year our D was good we won the SB. He also has a GM who refuses to make the team better in the offseason, whereas, BB always fills holes with veteran FA's when needed. Also, lets not forget this little tidbit, Bradshaw, Aikman, Flacco and Eli Manning all have more SB's than Rodgers, and NO ONE is taking any of those guys over Rodgers. Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson each have more rings than Marino, so I take it they're better than him as well? I honestly believe BB made Brady, and he would be nothing without BB's influence. Let us not forget he made Matt freaking Cassell look great for an entire season.
Case closed.
Plug Brady on the Packers last year, we go 5-11 at best.
Doubt it. If Brady was on the Patriots we win the Super Bowl last year....oh wait ,we did...you speak a lot of "if this , if that" I just go by the facts. Bottom line Tom Brady will go down as the greatest QB ever, to debate that questions if your just a homer.... :y11:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-quarterbacks-nfl-history-2016%3famp
Rodgers isn't even the best Packer on that list.
Here's another source
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815754
Oh look , another one
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/heat-index/2017/06/29/nfls-top-quarterbacks-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-lead-2017-rankings/439077001/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-quarterbacks-nfl-history-2016%3famp
Also, without the "Tuck" game, the Seahawks being idiotic, and the Falcons being idiotic Brady has 2 SB's at most, with a losing record. Then you add in the fact that Venitieri was clutch, and Brady would be lucky to have 1. Also, the fact that the AFC East has been putrid for going on 20 years now, which has basically insured the Pats a clean path to the AFCCG every season, because you know that division basically spots them 5-6 wins every season, meaning the Pats always end up with a bye, meaning less wins to reach the SB. I will give him one thing though, he is the luckiest QB ever.
Bradys the most accomplished qb in a team game where the qbs get more credit than they deserve and take more blame. Besides that youre changing the argument which is another tactic.
Dude, let it go, your grasping .... it's embarrassing . Maybe in a few years Rodgers will be #1 but for now I'm pretty sure Brady has earned it.
Their both great qb's but to say Rodgers is better is just your opinion. Good luck this year. Maybe we'll see you in the Super Bowl .
https://www.google.com/amp/s/athlonsports.com/nfl/25-greatest-quarterbacks-nfl-history-2016%3famp
Rodgers isn't even the best Packer on that list.
Here's another source
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000815754
Oh look , another one
http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/heat-index/2017/06/29/nfls-top-quarterbacks-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-lead-2017-rankings/439077001/
Are you seriously using subjective opinion based ranking lists in your argument? Kind of reaching for air there aren't we? Stats prove Rodgers is superior. Call me a [email protected], but I think if Brady was drafted by any other team he would be bagging groceries by his 3rd year in the league. I would have loved to see what Jamarcus Russell would have done in BB's system.
Ask yourself this.....if EA thinks he's number one and ESPN , Nfl.com, Athlon sports and other credited journalists think he's number one ,then what does that say?
So why do you think EA has Brady as number one? Just curious.
Why isn't Rodgers on the cover?
Ask yourself this.....if EA thinks he's number one and ESPN , Nfl.com, Athlon sports and other credited journalists think he's number one ,then what does that say?
So why do you think EA has Brady as number one? Just curious.
Why isn't Rodgers on the cover?[/QUOTE
Why did Rodgers win an espy fir best nfl player??? Hmmm...
Even Tom Brady admits he cant do many of the things rodgers can
https://www.google.com/amp/ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-is-good-nfl-playoffs-green-bay-packers-new-england-patriots/amp#ampshare=http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/01/tom-brady-aaron-rodgers-is-good-nfl-playoffs-green-bay-packers-new-england-patriots
I think the idea that Brady's arm strength at this point in his career is equal to Rodgers is silly though.
At the end of the day, EA is limited by the ratings system. Brady's deep ball might be close to Rodgers statistically speaking (I'm just assuming, I have no idea if that's the case), but for example, Rodgers can throw it on a rope down the field whereas Brady usually resorts to putting a **** ton of arc on his passes at this point. EA isn't really able to create that subtle difference with their ratings system.
Personally, I think Rodgers is better today than Brady, but even those that disagree I believe would agree that Rodgers has a stronger arm, obviously a lot more mobility. Brady's more consistent in the short passing game and is much quicker in his decision making. It's hard to really replicate what makes guys like Brady and Brees so good in a video game because most of it is mental/timing at this point in their careers so EA ends up bumping some of their physical ratings up to try to get the overall results they want.
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A QB takes so much more .It's all of the intangibles. It's not that Brady is better than Rogers or vice versa. It's simply that no one has done it more consistently than Tom Brady. I'll give Rogers his due , but I find it ridiculous when people use the if Brady played in Cleveland, he would be nothing" . I'm not down playing Rogers and I find it funny when people try to discredit all of Brady's accomplishments.
At the end if the day it's one point ...... people need to relax with these ratings.
Just switch the two qbs, Brady wouldnt be able to create the plays Rodgers does and wouldnt have GM/coach Belicheck to cater to him, (without Brady the Pats are 14-6). If the Pats had rodgers theyd still have won the superbowl but wouldnt have had to come from behind like they did.
Again, Bradys great but..
I hate hypothetical arguments like this. Let's stick to real life stats and facts instead of speculating on fictious hypotheticals that can be neither proved or disproved. There would be no end to debates if we based arguments on "what ifs."
On another note I'm surprised Carr's name isn't on here. I don't know how his stats compare to others but from what I saw and remember from last year he seemed to be up there with the best QBs in the league before getting injured.
That's why I find an argument like this pointless. Their ratings are separated by 1 point and we don't even know their full stats (at least then we could debate different attributes). As a Pat's fan I can see both sides but either way it's by a slim margin.
What I always find funny about rating debates, especially when it's a minor difference, is that things can and will change throughout the season. Who knows what will happen once the season starts.
What I always find funny about rating debates, especially when it's a minor difference, is that things can and will change throughout the season. Who knows what will happen once the season starts.
Full stats are like a thread over - anyone gonna combine these ratings threads soon?
I'm sure their PR marketing department doesn't want them released this early so the natural coverup is "they're not complete" when in all actuality they appear to be. Or at least they 100% correlate with what has been released in the blogs so far.
Hmm... strange
Fans of two teams have single handedly ruined this thread for everyone.
Complete waste keeping it open now since the discussion long ago moved on from being about all the QB's ratings and quickly became about just two.
All this, over ONE point (of a meaningless trait game wise mind you). Quite embarrassing really.