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Madden NFL 18 Player Ratings - Top Middle Linebackers

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Madden NFL 18 Player Ratings - Top Middle Linebackers

EA Sports has posted the Madden NFL 18 player ratings for the top middle linebackers in the game this year. Check them out and post your thoughts!

  • Luke Kuechly (Overall 98)
  • Bobby Wagner (Overall 93)
  • Dont’a Hightower (Overall 89)
  • C.J. Mosley (Overall 89)
  • NaVorro Bowman (Overall 88)
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  1. Okay, this one is close to my heart. That MLB is the position for me. I thought the strafing was tuned pretty well last year and I'm looking forward to using those new mechanics to take on blocks.
    But I would like to understand the formula that gives Keuchly a 5 point overall over Bobby Wagner, because for my money, I thought Wagner was the best defensive player in the NFL last season. Is it the coverage rating separating them, is it the 4 point difference in awareness, and the STR?
    I don't mind so much that an elite player of his stature is 93, but to have that spread between him and Kuechly when at worst, he was every bit as good last year. I mean there were games that he took over.
    Senator Palmer
    Okay, this one is close to my heart. That MLB is the position for me. I thought the strafing was tuned pretty well last year and I'm looking forward to using those new mechanics to take on blocks.
    But I would like to understand the formula that gives Keuchly a 5 point overall over Bobby Wagner, because for my money, I thought Wagner was the best defensive player in the NFL last season. Is it the coverage rating separating them, is it the 4 point difference in awareness, and the STR?
    I don't mind so much that an elite player of his stature is 93, but to have that spread between him and Kuechly when at worst, he was every bit as good last year. I mean there were games that he took over.

    yea, according to the ratings spreadsheet, Kuechly has Wagner squarely beat in coverage ratings (11-12 pts in both MCV/ZCV). The rest are fairly close but Kuechly is being given the edge in the majority. I can see the edge as Kuechly is about the most complete LB you can hope for when healthy. Wagner is on his heels tho. Take away the coverage aspect and they're almost interchangeable IRL. Wagner is an outstanding, ascending player. And with Kuechly being injured for a while, we don't know just how great his year would have been either.
    deu22ces
    yea, according to the ratings spreadsheet, Kuechly has Wagner squarely beat in coverage ratings (11-12 pts in both MCV/ZCV). The rest are fairly close but Kuechly is being given the edge in the majority. I can see the edge as Kuechly is about the most complete LB you can hope for when healthy. Wagner is on his heels tho. Take away the coverage aspect and they're almost interchangeable IRL. Wagner is an outstanding, ascending player. And with Kuechly being injured for a while, we don't know just how great his year would have been either.

    Whoa 11-12 points, that's a pretty wide margin... :crazy: eww that might be 5 points right there. I don't know the difference in coverage is that great in real life, but I watch both these guys close. If Kuechly has an edge it is in coverage.
    Senator Palmer
    Whoa 11-12 points, that's a pretty wide margin... :crazy: eww that might be 5 points right there. I don't know the difference in coverage is that great in real life, but I watch both these guys close. If Kuechly has an edge it is in coverage.

    yea, I don't like that spread either. I personally think the coverage ratings are too subjective, especially MCV. Man coverage is mostly a physical skill. The equation for MCV should avg. the SPD, AGI, ACC ratings together since they are what is required to 'mirror' someone. AWR should be included and account for a players experience in the skill, effectively simulating his ability to identify the receivers possible route tree based on alignment, diagnosing the release and 'stemming' the route, ability to react to a double move or stutter, etc.
    With just the physical part, they'd be equal at a 87 MCV rating. I would imagine the difference in coverage ability IRL is not in MCV, it's in ZCV.
    ZCV is a bit different in that it requires a higher % of mental skill. You have to understand the zones, when/where to settle, who's coming/leaving, awareness of what the QB is doing, etc. So AWR and PRC should factor heavily plus the AGI and ACC to move inside the 'zone'. SPD is not really a big factor is ZCV. This is where I'd say Kuechly really has the decided edge. He has a better feel, or mental awareness, of how to effectively play ZCV.
    Senator Palmer
    Okay, this one is close to my heart. That MLB is the position for me. I thought the strafing was tuned pretty well last year and I'm looking forward to using those new mechanics to take on blocks.
    But I would like to understand the formula that gives Keuchly a 5 point overall over Bobby Wagner, because for my money, I thought Wagner was the best defensive player in the NFL last season. Is it the coverage rating separating them, is it the 4 point difference in awareness, and the STR?
    I don't mind so much that an elite player of his stature is 93, but to have that spread between him and Kuechly when at worst, he was every bit as good last year. I mean there were games that he took over.

    Keuchly's contract is bigger than wagners and since this is the mechanism that drives contracts, has to be that way.
    This the one area were they need to find another mechanism that will dictate contracts.
    I suggested to Scooter that they just hide the OVR on the front end because it's main functionality is established inside CFM and not Play Now games.
    The other issue is the OVR being linked to depth chart positioning.
    khaliib
    Keuchly's contract is bigger than wagners and since this is the mechanism that drives contracts, has to be that way.
    This the one area were they need to find another mechanism that will dictate contracts.
    I suggested to Scooter that they just hide the OVR on the front end because it's main functionality is established inside CFM and not Play Now games.
    The other issue is the OVR being linked to depth chart positioning.

    Interesting. I knew that contract demands were dictated by overall, but I never made the inverse correlation. And I've believed for a while that there's a richer CFM experience that could be had without overalls -- this kind of reinforces that.
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