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EA Teases Madden NFL 22 Franchise Mode Staff Management - Is Coaching Carousel Coming?

Madden NFL executive producer, Seann Graddy, teased a little Madden NFL 22 franchise mode in his latest video. On display in the background, you can clearly see a “Work in Progress” (WIP) Staff Management screen. If you missed the video, it can be seen here.

It looks like coordinators and talent trees of some sort. It’s just one screen, but could the Madden team be teasing the NCAA Football Coaching Carousel feature, many fans have been asking for?

Before anyone gets too excited, let’s just wait for official word on what it actually is. But it’s certainly fun to speculate.

For those unfamiliar with the Coaching Carousel feature, from the NCAA Football series, or just want to reminisce on a long lost feature, check out the videos below.

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  1. EA needs to not over think NCAA. They need to literally port over the old product and update the graphics and physics for the initial release. It will make everyone happy and then they can work on additions.
    Outside of graphics, physics and code flaws that can be exploited (like recruiting), it's a great game
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    IMO we will only get the Carousel this year in Madden if they have already been working on it for a while. With all the hurdles development teams have had to deal with for the last couple of years I expect that the Madden 22 Franchise improvements will be chosen based upon relative ease of implementation.
    I hope it doesn't take this long but the Carousel may debut in EACF and Madden in the same cycle 2 1/2 years from now. I hope I'm wrong though.
    This is the time of year when the most dangerous part of being a Madden player comes back... hope... lol. I would love for this to be in, as well as a realistic contract system, players demanding trades, better and more random progression/regression system, being able to start before the current year's draft, i could go on... hope for franchise in any videogame right now is so dangerous man haha. I've been watching the show forums since it's coming to xbox and seeing their comments about franchise in that game is eye opening. They feel everything we feel over here.
    PhillyPhanatic14
    This is the time of year when the most dangerous part of being a Madden player comes back... hope... lol. I would love for this to be in, as well as a realistic contract system, players demanding trades, better and more random progression/regression system, being able to start before the current year's draft, i could go on... hope for franchise in any videogame right now is so dangerous man haha. I've been watching the show forums since it's coming to xbox and seeing their comments about franchise in that game is eye opening. They feel everything we feel over here.
    The off-season is the best time of year for being a fan of most teams. Optimism is at the highest point. Madden is no different.
    If NHL didn't have a carousel, this wouldn't cross my mind, but given that college football is returning potentially next year, if not, then very likely in 2023, and that NHL added this feature recently, it doesn't feel like as big of a stretch to think it could finally be coming to Madden.
    It is EA, so I won't be surprised if we get the carousel in the CFB release and it remains absent from Madden, but it seems if they were going to put it into Madden, this year is one that actually makes a lot of sense. This year and next year both do. Add in their "refocus" on franchise and who knows?
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    I think a coaching carousel is a great addition but here's the thing:
    It has to mean something. EA could add a carousel that is nothing more than having a name listed as the O/C, D/C or whatever. It want it to impact the game and I want to impact to be noticed
    If it doesn't do that then I don't want it
    In the franchise deep dive for Madden 22 they mentioned coaching and staff management as one the areas they're looking to improve. I like the idea of using XP to buy coaching upgrades but the upgrades are pretty minimal except for the more scouting points and xp earned. The others under acquisition are hardly noticable. Just turn those into scenarios or use XP itself as kind of a currency. You have to balance getting upgrades vs using the xp to better influence a player to stay vs retire or a free agent to sign with you.
    I'm in favor of giving what's there way more depth rather than some more superficial additions. I've said for years madden doesn't iterate on its additions. Besides some minor tweaks most features are the same as when they were first implemented. Scouting for example has been the same for years. The only change is that the rating unlocks prices have been reversed. Coaching skills have been the same.
    Coaching carousel would be shallow if the coaches themselves have no depth.
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    oneamongthefence
    In the franchise deep dive for Madden 22 they mentioned coaching and staff management as one the areas they're looking to improve. I like the idea of using XP to buy coaching upgrades but the upgrades are pretty minimal except for the more scouting points and xp earned. The others under acquisition are hardly noticable. Just turn those into scenarios or use XP itself as kind of a currency. You have to balance getting upgrades vs using the xp to better influence a player to stay vs retire or a free agent to sign with you.
    I'm in favor of giving what's there way more depth rather than some more superficial additions. I've said for years madden doesn't iterate on its additions. Besides some minor tweaks most features are the same as when they were first implemented. Scouting for example has been the same for years. The only change is that the rating unlocks prices have been reversed. Coaching skills have been the same.
    Coaching carousel would be shallow if the coaches themselves have no depth.
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    Fully agree.
    Coach Carousel has been a top community request for at least 4-5 years. One of the excuses has been since the coordinators aren't apart of the Coaches Association, they would have to individually license each coordinator. I could care less about real coordinators as long as we could edit them. The causal fan only knows the notable coordinators anyway. They could take the NHL approach with fictional ones. I still find it odd that NHL got coach Carousel before Madden.
    But as you said, Madden implements features one year and doesn't expand on it. It's like only when a new feature is marketable, they'll work on it. They touted Scenario Engine as a big feature last year that they would build on, but didn't do much if anything this year. Traits haven't been touched since year 2 of implementation. For a game with bad AI and no tendency system, Traits could have made a huge impact
    illwill10
    Fully agree.
    Coach Carousel has been a top community request for at least 4-5 years. One of the excuses has been since the coordinators aren't apart of the Coaches Association, they would have to individually license each coordinator. I could care less about real coordinators as long as we could edit them. The causal fan only knows the notable coordinators anyway. They could take the NHL approach with fictional ones. I still find it odd that NHL got coach Carousel before Madden.
    But as you said, Madden implements features one year and doesn't expand on it. It's like only when a new feature is marketable, they'll work on it. They touted Scenario Engine as a big feature last year that they would build on, but didn't do much if anything this year. Traits haven't been touched since year 2 of implementation. For a game with bad AI and no tendency system, Traits could have made a huge impact

    Yep. Put the generic coaches in and work on getting the real ones sometime later. Of course gamers are going to whine about it but whiners are going to whine.
    I've been screaming this all year... the reason Madden won't expand on features is becuase they keep implementing stupid modes like superstar KO and the Yard. If you really want to have The Yard then make it its own game that comes out in February or whatever.
    kennylc321
    Yep. Put the generic coaches in and work on getting the real ones sometime later. Of course gamers are going to whine about it but whiners are going to whine.
    I've been screaming this all year... the reason Madden won't expand on features is becuase they keep implementing stupid modes like superstar KO and the Yard. If you really want to have The Yard then make it its own game that comes out in February or whatever.

    I think the bigger issue was the focus on Longshot and FoTF. The Franchise resources was used on those modes the last 4 years(5 if you consider they spent the year prior to Longshot implementing it). They were trying to have their on MyCareer. The problem is the approach they're taking. Longshot and FoTF were essentially short single player campaign modes. I'm a big single player career guy, hell I when I buy 2k, I only play offline MyCareer because I'm not big bball fan. I would buy The Show if I was a baseball fan. But, I wouldn't want a single player "Campaign" mode in a sports games. I can't imagine how much time and money were spent on those modes.
    I do agree that it could be very shallow if implemented. For Coach Carousel to really work in Madden, you really have to go in depth. It can't be a bare bones experience where they just add coordinators and you have the ability to move up to a HC job. With NCAA, you had 3 things going for you. You had recruiting, freedom of movement, and you can make it challenging by starting at a 1 star school. In NFL, there isn't a freedom of movement and ideally you want to last at your job as long as possible.
    Not going to list a wishlist, but there's so much that needs to be included. Coaches need to have notable impact. Needs to be a Culture/morale impact. Needs to be off the field stuff(can incorporate Scenario Engine into it). Almost have to incorporate a full staff or at least have a pool of coordinator candidates attached to teams. There's so much more without doing a wishlist.
    infinite76
    EA needs to not over think NCAA. They need to literally port over the old product and update the graphics and physics for the initial release. It will make everyone happy and then they can work on additions.
    Outside of graphics, physics and code flaws that can be exploited (like recruiting), it's a great game
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    That is an absolutely horrendous idea as 14 wasnt a great football product to begin with, and is certainly outdated now. The Infinity Engine was a mess as there were zero physics in the game. Running backs rarely got knocked backwards, anyone could land a big hit, ball carriers could get hit while standing still and still break tackles, physics were just non existent. Defensively, Madden has things better now than they’ve ever been for EA. Pass coverage has actual pattern matching where in 14, it was pure spot drop coverage which was done really poorly that year. There is actual run fitting and gap responsibility now, whereas 14 did not. So linemen just ran head first into each other and basically played pattycake with one another.
    NCAA 14 was taking the series in the wrong direction. We would actually be better off taking Madden 21 (next gen) and copy and pasting it over rather than taking NCAA 14. Hopefully, they do neither and just take what is solid with M21 and clean up the areas that are not (blocking schemes need the most work imo. Something that was perfect in NCAA 11 but scrapped in 14). We’ll see what happens.
    The one thing they can take is the dynasty mode complete with the coaching carousel. That was as good as it gets dynasty wise. It was great to see coordinators moving around and taking their systems with them to new places (Although seeing a major power 5 team land the Army coach and start running the wishbone was odd). Definitely hope we see this soon. Having position coaches as well would be even better. Especially if different coaches brought you different rewards. Could be a tie in with the schemes feature.
    pokeballer246
    They said that the goal for the college football video game is 2023 which basically means 2 more maddens

    EA hasn't said anything concrete other than it isn't coming this year. 2023 would be my guess, but I wouldn't be shocked at all if next year sees it release. I'd honestly be more shocked if it didn't come out until 2024 than I would be if it came out next year in 2022. I think more work has been done than was let on by EA in their releases.
    illwill10
    Fully agree.
    Coach Carousel has been a top community request for at least 4-5 years. One of the excuses has been since the coordinators aren't apart of the Coaches Association, they would have to individually license each coordinator. I could care less about real coordinators as long as we could edit them. The causal fan only knows the notable coordinators anyway. They could take the NHL approach with fictional ones. I still find it odd that NHL got coach Carousel before Madden.
    But as you said, Madden implements features one year and doesn't expand on it. It's like only when a new feature is marketable, they'll work on it. They touted Scenario Engine as a big feature last year that they would build on, but didn't do much if anything this year. Traits haven't been touched since year 2 of implementation. For a game with bad AI and no tendency system, Traits could have made a huge impact

    This 1000%. I'm fine with fake coordinators if you can't get the real ones as long as they are editable and their attribute bonuses are editable(IE + 5 Pass Blocking) just like Superstar X Factors are, it can work. Along side this I'd like to see Create A Coach added where we can create coaches that would appear as Free Agents in the offseason. Being able to create Urban Meyer, Matt Rhule, Jim Harbaugh or a HOF Coach like Joe Gibbs, John Madden, unofficially put Bill Belichick in the game lol.
    I didn't buy Madden 21 and carrying on with my real life CFM that got thrown a loop due to all the roster rule changes but with 17 games coming on the horizon, I'll probably only be able to keep my real CFM on Madden 20 going for one more year if the NFL delays 17 games until 2022. So hopefully Madden 22 gives me a reason to move on and start a new real life CFM on there.
    Not a chance. Franchise will essentially be the same with about 80% or less of thst of things they said they’d put in. In addition, something we like will be removed, just like calling of edited names was removed (along with adding a ludicrous word filter).
    Here is the bottom line: in order to get the football game we want, we’re going to have to start funding one of these independent studios so they can hire quality animators, designers and programmers familiar with sports game engines. And pray that they allow maximum customization.
    UFCMPunk
    This 1000%. I'm fine with fake coordinators if you can't get the real ones as long as they are editable and their attribute bonuses are editable(IE + 5 Pass Blocking) just like Superstar X Factors are, it can work. Along side this I'd like to see Create A Coach added where we can create coaches that would appear as Free Agents in the offseason. Being able to create Urban Meyer, Matt Rhule, Jim Harbaugh or a HOF Coach like Joe Gibbs, John Madden, unofficially put Bill Belichick in the game lol.
    I didn't buy Madden 21 and carrying on with my real life CFM that got thrown a loop due to all the roster rule changes but with 17 games coming on the horizon, I'll probably only be able to keep my real CFM on Madden 20 going for one more year if the NFL delays 17 games until 2022. So hopefully Madden 22 gives me a reason to move on and start a new real life CFM on there.

    How many people will complain if someone like Ed Donnell and Pete Carmichael isn't in the game. If you aren't a fan of those teams, you wouldn't know that was the Denver DC and the Saints OC. Which is the point that it wouldn't be a big deal if we had fictional coordinators. If we had the ability to edit them, I don't think there would be any ligation issues as long as you can't replicate their likeness.
    I want to want to buy Madden. I'm a bigger football fan than other sports. I would be more interested in doing a full franchise mode than I would with NBA 2k. But with Madden, I'm not forcing myself too. I wanted to buy Madden since M18, but every year it's not enough for me to warrant a purchase. With this being the first full year of development for the new generation, Madden 22 will have higher expectations. This is the year they need to have a foundation to build the rest of the generation on. Madden 21 current gen felt like a game you could truly say it was a .5 game. Outside of the Yard and FoTF, you could say it was Madden 20.5. I didn't have a problem with that because it was the last major year for the previous gen. But outside of the overall feel, Madden 21 next gen was a prettier version of current gen. I didn't even bother renting Madden at all this year. Least last several years I rented it for a month or so. I want to have the desire to buy Madden 22. Sports games are games I can spend the whole year playing if it is good enough. I'm not the biggest BBall fan, but I can get a good 5-6 months out of NBA 2k because it is good enough
    If we're talking about Coach Carousel, I always wondered if we would ever get a GM mode for Madden. I think a GM mode would be great for a football fan. I would have more interest in a GM mode than a Owner mode. It would be cool to hire a HC/staff. Hire a full scouting staff and delegate responsibilities. Have a mini front office staff. A GM mode would be a good experience in Madden if done right
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    Not a chance. Franchise will essentially be the same with about 80% or less of thst of things they said they’d put in. In addition, something we like will be removed, just like calling of edited names was removed (along with adding a ludicrous word filter).
    Here is the bottom line: in order to get the football game we want, we’re going to have to start funding one of these independent studios so they can hire quality animators, designers and programmers familiar with sports game engines. And pray that they allow maximum customization.

    That’s not even necessary. 2K already has the resources. For the life of me I don’t understand why they think gamers want arcade football with real players as opposed to franchise football with generic players.
    When I think of non sim game, it’s either going to be an NFL blitz kind of game or The Yard king of game. Either way, it’s stupid and I’m not touching it
    kennylc321
    That’s not even necessary. 2K already has the resources. For the life of me I don’t understand why they think gamers want arcade football with real players as opposed to franchise football with generic players.
    When I think of non sim game, it’s either going to be an NFL blitz kind of game or The Yard king of game. Either way, it’s stupid and I’m not touching it
    Because sales show that the casual crowd much prefers real players over generic players.
    People here on OS may be absolutely fine with generic rosters if it meant they got the most authentic experience on the field with a deep franchise mode. The average person that makes up the bulk of EAs sales would rather have Patrick Mahomes in their game throwing for 400 yards each time they play.
    If generic sports games would sell as well as some OS think they would, then those games would be getting made as well. Those games don't get made for a reason, the money isn't seen to be there.
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    Sadly I fully expect EA NCAA football to be a complete shell of its former self, and I don't expect Madden to get a Carousel because EA wont even put Coordinators into the game to begin with. That would involve effort in something that they can't monetize and that's not going to happen.
    If they could give us a decent creation system and just give us generic coordinators that we could edit that would be something at least.
    canes21
    Because sales show that the casual crowd much prefers real players over generic players.
    People here on OS may be absolutely fine with generic rosters if it meant they got the most authentic experience on the field with a deep franchise mode. The average person that makes up the bulk of EAs sales would rather have Patrick Mahomes in their game throwing for 400 yards each time they play.
    If generic sports games would sell as well as some OS think they would, then those games would be getting made as well. Those games don't get made for a reason, the money isn't seen to be there.
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    canes21
    Because sales show that the casual crowd much prefers real players over generic players.

    People here on OS may be absolutely fine with generic rosters if it meant they got the most authentic experience on the field with a deep franchise mode. The average person that makes up the bulk of EAs sales would rather have Patrick Mahomes in their game throwing for 400 yards each time they play.
    If generic sports games would sell as well as some OS think they would, then those games would be getting made as well. Those games don't get made for a reason, the money isn't seen to be there.
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    On the surface that makes sense. But look at what we are talking about:
    Canuck Play-- They tried. They just don't have the resources to make a solid game
    Backbreaker-- I don't know who signed off on the player models that look like robots
    APF-- No franchise mode.
    2k has the resources. I am willing to bet my life savings of $104.86 that 2ks "Non sim" game is not going to be a hit. Non sim can be anything between NFL Head Coach and NFL Blitz. Is that the game you REALLY want to play?
    It's definitely being teased now. If the feature was always planned, this year or next make the most sense when looking at the broader picture.
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    canes21
    It's definitely being teased now. If the feature was always planned, this year or next make the most sense when looking at the broader picture.
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    It would make sense. It's a feature that has most likely has been on the top of community requests for years. But, they wanted to focus on Longshot and FoTF the last 4 years. So the main community requests they focused on for franchise were ones that could be realistically implemented in a cycle or two that didn't take away from Longshot and FoTF.
    Going by that picture, it looks to be fictional coordinators. Which I have ZERO issues with. They aren't apart of the coaches association and unless they were all apart of a single entity that could be negotiated with, there isn't a huge need to have real coaches where you had to individually negotiate with every one.
    illwill10
    It would make sense. It's a feature that has most likely has been on the top of community requests for years. But, they wanted to focus on Longshot and FoTF the last 4 years. So the main community requests they focused on for franchise were ones that could be realistically implemented in a cycle or two that didn't take away from Longshot and FoTF.
    Going by that picture, it looks to be fictional coordinators. Which I have ZERO issues with. They aren't apart of the coaches association and unless they were all apart of a single entity that could be negotiated with, there isn't a huge need to have real coaches where you had to individually negotiate with every one.
    I have zero issues with fictional coaches either and it is honestly what I've expected if the feature ever returned. That said, this early in development I would not expect them to have real coaches implemented yet. If they were going that route they'd like be in negotiations at this point still. If they got the rights to real coaches, putting them into the game would likely be one of the last steps.
    Creating and testing the feature would take up the vast majority of the cycle. I still don't expect real coaches, but I won't rule it out until EA confirms it.
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    This looks like a purposeful leak for Madden 22. Looks like it has O/D coordinators. The question remains whether it will be exclusively for next gen or not. Wouldnt surprise me if it was in which case Ill pass. Im pretty certain a coaching carousel is exactly what this hints at though.
    mestevo
    Looks like staff management to me. A lot more goes into a carousel feature.
    Would be a let down, even by EA standards, to make this move to expand staffs and then not have a carousel feature behind it.
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    canes21
    Would be a let down, even by EA standards, to make this move to expand staffs and then not have a carousel feature behind it.
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    Honestly, I can see that it just be expanding the staff. I can see it being just adding Coordinators to staff and having their rating/skill be XP based off of stats. Like "Get X amount of Pass yards" or 'Hold Chiefs under X yards" for 1500XP. Where their impact might just be a boost to key ratings for certain positions.
    I would love to be wrong, but I don't see them going out and having a full fledged coaching carousel. I would love to start as a coordinator and work yourself up to a HC. But until it's confirmed, it's hard not to be skeptical.
    I could see them including just the additional staff and then making the carousel part of the live service updates during the year.
    As someone who didn't play Madden from October until just recently (with the exception of a couple of next gen games) I can honestly say the updates throughout the year have been a good foundation. I think Madden 22 is the year for franchise. They'll want to come out with at least one back of the box feature for it.
    It needs to make sense from a timing standpoint, like let everyone do hires after the SB. If your coach wins the SB and retires or you go late into the playoffs you get screwed as you don't have any candidates and cant even pick a coach.
    Also show us what the coach looks like, instead of just a random name.
    I find it funny how they present this video and that screen just happens to be on his monitor LOL
    Well played Madden team, you got me to purchase for the 30th strait year.
    You have to assume itll be part of the NCAA Franchise again when they bring it to life in a few years, so this would be a good place to test it out again
    stlstudios189
    I find it funny how they present this video and that screen just happens to be on his monitor LOL
    Well played Madden team, you got me to purchase for the 30th strait year.

    Same here. I swore I would boycott this year b/c of the way EA abandoned franchise mode, only to give in around October. Coaching staff and hopefully a carousel will pull me in for year 31.

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