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NHL 22 Moves to Frostbite Engine, Adds Superstar X-Factors - Trailer & Details

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NHL 22 Moves to Frostbite Engine, Adds Superstar X-Factors - Trailer & Details

As promised, EA has revealed their NHL 22 trailer today featuring a move to the Frostbite Engine and the addition of Superstar X-Factors.

For the first time ever, the Frostbite engine comes to the EA SPORTS NHL franchise, making NHL 22 the biggest leap forward in graphics and gameplay in franchise history. Players will be brought to life via overhauled player likeness, cloth animations and uniform micro-details, all delivered in higher resolution to make every stitch visible. Alongside these advancements will come enhanced spatial awareness for players to track and react to the world around them.

In addition to enhanced player detail and visual fidelity, on-ice gameplay will see an upgrade as well with new physically accurate stick interactions, just one of many gameplay improvements coming to NHL 22. The frostbite engine will be utilized on Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5.

Superstars will distinctly feel like their real-life counterparts in NHL 22 with the introduction of Superstar X-Factors, a game-changing system that unleashes unique abilities for the best players in the game, with traits inspired by their individual real-world skills. Superstar X-Factors bring two key elements to help elevate hockey’s elite and break them away from the pack: Zone Abilities and Superstar Abilities. Zone Abilities bring game-breaking enhancements to the best players, while Superstar Abilities represent upper echelon skills reserved for athletes playing at the next level.

Players like Edmonton Oilers Forward Leon Draisaitl, whose “Tape to Tape” ability reflects his elite core passing; or Tampa Bay Lightning goaltender Andrei Vasilevskiy’s “Contortionist” X-factor that boosts his ability to make wild, body-twisting saves with ease will make a profound impact on NHL 22 gameplay. Superstar X-Factors not only bring new facets to gameplay but also add new dimensions to Franchise Mode, Be A Pro, Hockey Ultimate Team and World of Chel.

In the coming weeks more will be shared on the World of CHEL, Hockey Ultimate Team, Be A Pro and Franchise modes, as well as some long-requested community features.

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  1. All their pre-order or learn more pages are 404'd. Nice job guys.
    First freaking shot of the trailer shows a game with completely empty benches. 99% of the trailer is just showing the same goalie animations and stupid dekes for years. Everything looks the same as NHL21 except with some newer faces, different lighting. Only thing I'm hopeful for is that the crowd looked a lot better than 21 and maybe they really amped up the atmosphere which would be a major improvement.
    I mean, this is just...a really bad trailer? Like really bad? Compared to Madden or FIFA this looks like an intern's rough cut.
    This dev team, man.
    I really enjoyed NHL21 and expect the next-gen version of the game to feel different for sure but these guys are just terrible at marketing.
    Also just realized Matthews has been on the cover 2 of the last 3 years. These guys just let the jokes write themselves. Incredible.
    tyler289

    First freaking shot of the trailer shows a game with completely empty benches.

    I didn't notice this at first, but good catch. This has to be some kind of error due to the rushed nature of the trailer or something, I hope. The fact that it could go either way says all you need to know about this team/the resources EA does or doesn't throw at NHL.
    capnlarge
    It's pretty wild to think that when NHL 07 came out, this would end up being the basis for every NHL game for the rest of time.

    Also my thought. I mean yeah, it looks pretty slick visually, but it also looks like a riff on the same goddamn thing we've been playing for 15 years. I am dying for something else.
    This can't be it, right?
    The website mentions visual upgrades, and gimmicky superstar x-factors...and that's all. On the surface this looks very underwhelming, even for the NHL series.
    capnlarge
    It's pretty wild to think that when NHL 07 came out, this would end up being the basis for every NHL game for the rest of time.

    Ok, that’s what I thought too.
    I am still playing NHL 17, I’m a weirdo and like to play multiple seasons. But I’m due for an upgrade since Vegas and Seattle aren’t in that game. But from watching this trailer, in 5 years it just seems the absolute same. The best thing I noticed was better, more realistic animations for receiving the puck, but that could have been around for years.
    I know it’s easy to say it’s a roster update and a new paint job, but it does seem that way. Even more pathetic is I’m going to buy it because that’s simply all I want after spending half a decade with a previous version.
    I saw the same animations, locomotion, stick handling and posture as nhl 15-21. It’s last gen with a frostbite skin. So disappointing. Our next gen nhl’s and madden’s of the world should be completely new experiences.
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    There's an IGN interview with a producer that says there aren't any new animations and that the gameplay additions are basically just Frostbite, eye tracking and new visuals. That's it.
    Said there's still more to announce on BAP and Franchise mode but honestly, I would be happy with these gameplay changes + smaller adjustments to Franchise like more stats (think some of the advanced stats), some better FA negotiating, box scores, etc. My expectations are so low that I expect none of that, but I did really enjoy NHL21 on and off the ice and just want to see continued improvement to Franchise, even if it's small. 21 had a lot of good additions.
    They better make teams play differently, I got bored of NHL21 after a few franchise seasons games. I had to use the same tactics to beat teams and score on one timers. There needs to be more differentiality between teams, players and more random goals going in.
    This game desperately needed cross platform for Chel and EASHL. It's still shocking to me that ea sports refuses to do cross platform. Especially for next gen where the player base is already restricted so much.
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    SocialAssassin
    It's fitting that Matthews is on the cover again. Who is the perfect spokesperson for a product that looks good on the surface yet deeply flawed underneath?

    They’re doing what FIFA did, repeat coverboy
    So the main features of this year are the move to frostbite (an engine FIFA & Madden have been on since 2017 & 2018) & superstar abilities. Those are the only tidbits of info on the EA's website.
    Doesn't bode well for the rest of the game being improved much.
    Man, I really wish that 2K didn't completely revamp 2K9 after 2K8. They really should have built upon what 2K8 was (IMO the greatest hockey game in my lifetime). 2K9 finished that franchise, but I even had a great time with 2K10.
    We need an NHL alternative
    tcnumba10
    They’re doing what FIFA did, repeat coverboy

    Which is absolutely stupid, especially since you've never had Crosby (as a Wings fan I'm still not a fan of him, but he deserves it more than anyone) on the cover and this was the chance to do it.
    Outside of better goalie moves and the deflection goals, it doesn't look like much has changed. Hell, the puck still bounces of the back of the net like it's hitting a brick wall. The graphics look shiny with better ice reflection, but players still look blocky like last-gen. If you compare them to FIFA or Madden it's not even close. Jersey movement is also laughable compared to NBA 2K.
    bapgap
    Which is absolutely stupid, especially since you've never had Crosby (as a Wings fan I'm still not a fan of him, but he deserves it more than anyone) on the cover and this was the chance to do it.
    Outside of better goalie moves and the deflection goals, it doesn't look like much has changed. Hell, the puck still bounces of the back of the net like it's hitting a brick wall. The graphics look shiny with better ice reflection, but players still look blocky like last-gen. If you compare them to FIFA or Madden it's not even close. Jersey movement is also laughable compared to NBA 2K.

    They didn’t even fix the cover boy’s moustache lmao, it’s too thick and generic looking.
    Wow, this is not good.
    The trailer feels.. dated?
    And the reveals are nothing new, just rehash of other EA Sports games stuff.
    There is so little fresh or interesting here.
    I look at Fifa, NBA 2k, The Show and Madden - and yes there are glaring issues with these titles, but at least they present their sport and try to show it off in a good way.
    A reveal trailer should wow me.
    This... I..
    Just make it go away and come back in 2024 with some actual content!
    tyler289
    There's an IGN interview with a producer that says there aren't any new animations and that the gameplay additions are basically just Frostbite, eye tracking and new visuals. That's it.
    Said there's still more to announce on BAP and Franchise mode but honestly, I would be happy with these gameplay changes + smaller adjustments to Franchise like more stats (think some of the advanced stats), some better FA negotiating, box scores, etc. My expectations are so low that I expect none of that, but I did really enjoy NHL21 on and off the ice and just want to see continued improvement to Franchise, even if it's small. 21 had a lot of good additions.

    This needs to be front and center. Unless they're drastically fixing the old animations, then it'll literally be the same exact game. New rosters, new engine, etc etc. It doesn't matter when you have the same exact animations/systems in place that allow goals to get scored by passing the puck between the goalies pads.
    More info down the road there must be some old advertising executive that works for EA NHL series let’s just give them little reveal here little there and this will build anticipation and gentleman that means sales.
    Yawn it’s a cell phone society we want the info all the info because that is how it works it just alienates people towards your game.
    Another $10.00 for Xbox series X my NHL 21 only worth around $4.00 at GameStop. Definitely gonna have to wait for a sale before picking this up
    It looks good I’ll say that. But I don’t care about all these flashy dekes and X-factors which was a disaster in Madden. Goalie logic needs to be improved or else it’s just the same game with the same OP goal moves like the cross crease.
    I played a lot of Franchise in NHL 21 and liked it, but my buddies and I got sick of playing EASHL because there was zero strategy besides going for the cross crease goal. Sometimes we would win games only because we played good defense on the cross crease and the other team just didn’t know what to do. That’s not how hockey works in the sense that yes we played good D and should be rewarded, but your entire offensive strategy should not revolve around one way to score. Load outs also seemed to not matter as I would play as a sniper and an Enforcer Defensemen would zoom by me and deke like he was McDavid. Make that mean something!
    Anybody else kind of groan/laugh at that vasilevski save? Wow was that forced/awful to watch. It'll be pretty hard to convince me to completely redo my sliders, teams, and rosters for lighting upgrades.
    wait... 80$ for XB1 version, 130$ for Series X/S version (XB1 version comes with it)??? LOL
    https://prnt.sc/1qccn00
    The trailer was 100% CGI/Sizzle trailer btw. No way to know how the game plays one way or another. Give us real gameplay please!!
    Other than that I guess I'll check it out when the game is 70%off or less... 130$ for X/S version... You gotta be kidding me!!!
    VeNOM3099
    wait... 80$ for XB1 version, 130$ for Series X/S version (XB1 version comes with it)??? LOL
    https://prnt.sc/1qccn00
    The trailer was 100% CGI/Sizzle trailer btw. No way to know how the game plays one way or another. Give us real gameplay please!!
    Other than that I guess I'll check it out when the game is 70%off or less... 130$ for X/S version... You gotta be kidding me!!!

    No, there's a standard edition for Series X. The $130 version gives you "Dual Entitlement" meaning you can play both current and next gen. (still a ripoff)
    And they incentivized buying The X-Factor edition by not allowing cross-play between generations.
    HipNotiiC_x
    Anybody else kind of groan/laugh at that vasilevski save? Wow was that forced/awful to watch. It'll be pretty hard to convince me to completely redo my sliders, teams, and rosters for lighting upgrades.

    That was a crazy ridiculous save which would happen maybe once in a blue moon, save or the century type lol. It wouldn’t surprise me to see that kind of save in NHL22 like 3x in a game tho lol.
    Btw the ice looks nice real with the reflection up close but no one is going to notice that during actual gameplay. Maybe if you zoom in during replays tho lol
    tcnumba10
    That was a crazy ridiculous save which would happen maybe once in a blue moon, save or the century type lol. It wouldn’t surprise me to see that kind of save in NHL22 like 3x in a game tho lol.
    Btw the ice looks nice real with the reflection up close but no one is going to notice that during actual gameplay. Maybe if you zoom in during replays tho lol

    I think NHL 2K games have great looking ice and you notice it a lot during gameplay. So, hopefully this is also the case in NHL 22.
    capnlarge
    No, there's a standard edition for Series X. The $130 version gives you "Dual Entitlement" meaning you can play both current and next gen. (still a ripoff)
    And they incentivized buying The X-Factor edition by not allowing cross-play between generations.

    No, look at the screenshot I took. The 80$ version gives you the XB1 version, which will still be playable on the series X/S through back compat. But if you want the Series X/S versions (which include the lesser XB1 versions through "Dual Entitlement" or "Smart Delivery", whatever you wanna call it) you need to buy the 130$ version which will come with Series X features like 120 FPS and faster load times.
    Though you can't build a player and then use him on the Series X. Incentivize my derriere.... It's a rip-off!!
    LOL
    But it will probably be mostly the same game so no loss there (except the 50$ extra you have to pay). Just get the 80$ version and play the same game through backwards compatibility...
    EDIT: Wow!! Can you imagine the mess LG will be in with players buying both versions?? How are they gonna prioritize?? Holy Hell!!
    One thing that I really wish they would add that could show off their visuals AND improve franchise mode is a photo mode in replays that you can save and populate in the franchise mode home screen or throughout different menus. Remember when NCAA had The Shrine which would play highlights in the background?
    Would love if you could save replays and take photos (showing off their new eye-tracking and face scans, you know) and then see them in your franchise mode. An added bonus would be to tag them by season so if you take a lot you can see memories from big moments throughout your franchise...
    This series is so so so stale. I haven’t bought in years and will continue not to buy. I play sometimes through ea play and usually end up playing for about an hour and then deleting the game. It’s so boring and stale.
    Yes this trailer isn’t much to go off of but the speed and animations look the same. The visuals look sorta better, the ice looks good I guess. But my god this trailer could’ve been from any year and I wouldn’t have been able to tell.
    VeNOM3099
    No, look at the screenshot I took. The 80$ version gives you the XB1 version, which will still be playable on the series X/S through back compat. But if you want the Series X/S versions (which include the lesser XB1 versions through "Dual Entitlement" or "Smart Delivery", whatever you wanna call it) you need to buy the 130$ version which will come with Series X features like 120 FPS and faster load times.
    Though you can't build a player and then use him on the Series X. Incentivize my derriere.... It's a rip-off!!
    LOL
    But it will probably be mostly the same game so no loss there (except the 50$ extra you have to pay). Just get the 80$ version and play the same game through backwards compatibility...
    EDIT: Wow!! Can you imagine the mess LG will be in with players buying both versions?? How are they gonna prioritize?? Holy Hell!!

    https://www.ea.com/games/nhl/nhl-22/buy/xbox?isLocalized=true#standard-edition-series-x
    EA's website is showing a standard edition for next gen
    I don't have an XBOX Series X but I have a PS5 and it's showing 3 different versions...but PS5 IS $10 more expensive...
    PhillyGuy11826
    So the main features of this year are the move to frostbite (an engine FIFA & Madden have been on since 2017 & 2018) & superstar abilities. Those are the only tidbits of info on the EA's website.
    Doesn't bode well for the rest of the game being improved much.
    Man, I really wish that 2K didn't completely revamp 2K9 after 2K8. They really should have built upon what 2K8 was (IMO the greatest hockey game in my lifetime). 2K9 finished that franchise, but I even had a great time with 2K10.
    We need an NHL alternative

    I agree with every aspect of this comment.
    NHL2K8 was great. It took a while to get used to if you didn't play prior NHL 2K games, but once you did it played a lot more like actual hockey than EA's offerings (even to this day). I remember being actually able to cycle the puck and find open shooters in the slot, as opposed to just going end-to-end and trying to deke 3 guys before firing a shot into whatever side the goalie wasn't stuck on.
    bapgap
    Which is absolutely stupid, especially since you've never had Crosby (as a Wings fan I'm still not a fan of him, but he deserves it more than anyone) on the cover and this was the chance to do it.
    Outside of better goalie moves and the deflection goals, it doesn't look like much has changed. Hell, the puck still bounces of the back of the net like it's hitting a brick wall. The graphics look shiny with better ice reflection, but players still look blocky like last-gen. If you compare them to FIFA or Madden it's not even close. Jersey movement is also laughable compared to NBA 2K.

    Crosby doesn't attach his name to mediocrity
    capnlarge
    https://www.ea.com/games/nhl/nhl-22/buy/xbox?isLocalized=true#standard-edition-series-x
    EA's website is showing a standard edition for next gen
    I don't have an XBOX Series X but I have a PS5 and it's showing 3 different versions...but PS5 IS $10 more expensive...

    Exactly!! There's the regular PS4 version for 70$, there's the PS4 version you can play on PS5 for 80$ and there's the fully featured PS5 version for 130$. Just Xbox cuts out the only XB1 version cuz you can play it on Series X anyways through backwards compatibility.
    My issue is that they are basically selling their game for the new consoles for 130$. Just like 2K did with NBA 2k21. They sold the "Mamba Edition" (which came with both versions) for 120$. Just like they're doing now. WHY would you want both versions when you have a new console? On top of it they don't cross share.
    I bought Immortals: Fenyx Rising a while back. You know how much it cost me? 80 bucks. I started playing on my Xbox One X. Then my brother got me a Series X and I was able to finish (the same game) on the new console. Why would you need both?? Sorry, why would you need to BUY both?? It's a rip-off. Plain and simple.
    get a life people and wait until you see actual gameplay before You judge whether the game is good. you cant judge a game based on a 2 min trailer.
    VeNOM3099
    Exactly!! There's the regular PS4 version for 70$, there's the PS4 version you can play on PS5 for 80$ and there's the fully featured PS5 version for 130$. Just Xbox cuts out the only XB1 version cuz you can play it on Series X anyways through backwards compatibility.
    My issue is that they are basically selling their game for the new consoles for 130$. Just like 2K did with NBA 2k21. They sold the "Mamba Edition" (which came with both versions) for 120$. Just like they're doing now. WHY would you want both versions when you have a new console? On top of it they don't cross share.
    I bought Immortals: Fenyx Rising a while back. You know how much it cost me? 80 bucks. I started playing on my Xbox One X. Then my brother got me a Series X and I was able to finish (the same game) on the new console. Why would you need both?? Sorry, why would you need to BUY both?? It's a rip-off. Plain and simple.

    No. You are mistaken. There is indeed a 90$ cad (or 70$ usd) standard version for next gen that includes the next gen version only. That's par for the course for most games. Madden, fifa, the show, nba 2k...
    Here's a link to the standard Next gen version on the Xbox store:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/nhl-22-xbox-series-x-s/9p8gcl9hf1z7
    Next gen versions are generally 10$ more than last gen. Also, if you want to play a last gen game through backwards compatibility, you just buy that last gen game. There is no special last gen version that allows you to play on new consoles through BC. So there's no such thing as "the Ps4 version you can play on Ps5".
    MizzouRah
    $90 via EA Play... goodness that's just crazy.

    Those are standard canadian dollar prices to account for the exchange rates. Whereas us has a standard last gen price of 60$ and 70$ for next gen, we have 80$ and 90$ respectively. Ea play knocks off 10% from that.
    Bottom line, the pricing and various versions I'm seeing for Nhl 22 are in line with other games such as Madden.
    tullyd
    get a life people and wait until you see actual gameplay before You judge whether the game is good. you cant judge a game based on a 2 min trailer.

    Thank you! the complaints are from the same ole crowd that whines and moans year after year and feel the need to tell everyone that will not be buying the game even though they purchase it year after year. It's amazing how negative these forums have become. They are complaining about a trailer but haven't seen a game play video but in their mind it's already a bad game. The same crowd every year.
    Eddie1967
    Thank you! the complaints are from the same ole crowd that whines and moans year after year and feel the need to tell everyone that will not be buying the game even though they purchase it year after year. It's amazing how negative these forums have become. They are complaining about a trailer but haven't seen a game play video but in their mind it's already a bad game. The same crowd every year.

    Nah I’m not buying and I won’t be buying and havent been buying. The same people every year come out after the first trailer and say it’s just a trailer! Then what we saw in the trailer ends up being exactly what we thought, a crappy game. There’s not a lot to be optimisric about. I’ve been clamoring for a good hockey game for years and it’s just such a bummer they trot out the same crap. Everything in that trailer other than graphics looked the same. Same animations, same glidy gameplay. There was a puck protection animation that looked different but that’s it.
    Can we at least just see what is actually on offer here before sandbagging it?
    It's their first effort at a new generation of hardware again and I remain optimistic until proven to be a mistake.
    mercalnd
    No. You are mistaken. There is indeed a 90$ cad (or 70$ usd) standard version for next gen that includes the next gen version only. That's par for the course for most games. Madden, fifa, the show, nba 2k...
    Here's a link to the standard Next gen version on the Xbox store:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/nhl-22-xbox-series-x-s/9p8gcl9hf1z7
    Next gen versions are generally 10$ more than last gen. Also, if you want to play a last gen game through backwards compatibility, you just buy that last gen game. There is no special last gen version that allows you to play on new consoles through BC. So there's no such thing as "the Ps4 version you can play on Ps5".

    Here is a link to the compare screen for both:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/nhl-22/9NX76WG21DVC?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:regionofcompareeditionstab
    Still think it's X/S for 80$?? It's the classic move; sell your previous gen game that's playable on both consoles for less. Charge a premium for the version that's only playable on next gen. I mean who buys a version for next gen they can also play on last gen?? Doesn't happen. You can't buy it by itself (says on your screen it's part of a BUNDLE) On top of it your last gen created player is separate from your next gen created player.
    It's just a clever ruse to get you to pay more for next gen. Just buy the old gen 80$ version. It will play on both XB1 and X/S and you'll be able to carry your created player.
    mercalnd
    Those are standard canadian dollar prices to account for the exchange rates. Whereas us has a standard last gen price of 60$ and 70$ for next gen, we have 80$ and 90$ respectively. Ea play knocks off 10% from that.
    Bottom line, the pricing and various versions I'm seeing for Nhl 22 are in line with other games such as Madden.

    Thank you I was thinking it should be the same price as M22.
    In the coming weeks more will be shared on the World of CHEL, Hockey Ultimate Team, Be A Pro and Franchise modes, as well as some long-requested community features
    That last sentence is reason for hope that we may get roster sharing, custom arena music and/or custom goalie masks.
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    VeNOM3099
    Here is a link to the compare screen for both:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/nhl-22/9NX76WG21DVC?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:regionofcompareeditionstab
    Still think it's X/S for 80$?? It's the classic move; sell your previous gen game that's playable on both consoles for less. Charge a premium for the version that's only playable on next gen. I mean who buys a version for next gen they can also play on last gen?? Doesn't happen. You can't buy it by itself (says on your screen it's part of a BUNDLE) On top of it your last gen created player is separate from your next gen created player.
    It's just a clever ruse to get you to pay more for next gen. Just buy the old gen 80$ version. It will play on both XB1 and X/S and you'll be able to carry your created player.

    Something doesn't add up. I have tried to show with a link. Your link is for a different version than mine. There are versions missing in your link, including the one I posted a link to. I'm guessing it's a us store vs canadian store issue.
    The 80$ version in your link is indeed last gen only but playable on next gen through backwardscompatibility like all last gen games. I also see a 90$ next gen only version, which is the one I linked to, though I suspect the link might redirect somewhere else if your account is on the us store.
    You can get the next gen version only for 10$ more than if you buy they standard last gen version only. My link led to that next gen only version. This pricing follows the same pattern as other sports games (Madden, Fifa, Mlb The Show, Nba 2k).
    I have no clue why you insist on believing that NHL would force people to pay massively more for the next gen version of NHL than for any of their other games.
    Perhaps looking at Madden 22 versions, which are strctured the same way might convince you. I purchased the 70$ usd/90$ cad version and thatgives me the next gen version only, as it will with NHL 22.
    mercalnd
    Something doesn't add up. I have tried to show with a link. Your link is for a different version than mine. There are versions missing in your link, including the one I posted a link to. I'm guessing it's a us store vs canadian store issue.
    The 80$ version in your link is indeed last gen only but playable on next gen through backwardscompatibility like all last gen games. I also see a 90$ next gen only version, which is the one I linked to, though I suspect the link might redirect somewhere else if your account is on the us store.
    You can get the next gen version only for 10$ more than if you buy they standard last gen version only. My link led to that next gen only version. This pricing follows the same pattern as other sports games (Madden, Fifa, Mlb The Show, Nba 2k).
    I have no clue why you insist on believing that NHL would force people to pay massively more for the next gen version of NHL than for any of their other games.
    Perhaps looking at Madden 22 versions, which are strctured the same way might convince you. I purchased the 70$ usd/90$ cad version and thatgives me the next gen version only, as it will with NHL 22.

    Yeah I’m just seeing the next gen only version as just being 10 dollars more.
    https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/xbox-one/products/nhl-22---xbox-one/11156048.html?condition=New
    Next gen
    https://www.gamestop.com/video-games/xbox-series-x%7Cs/products/nhl-22---xbox-series-x/11156047.html?condition=New
    umm... I got the NHL 22 X-factor Edition, holy molly its a lot, here is actual price of x-factor version:
    Subtotal CAD $129.99
    GST / HST CAD $6.50
    PST CAD $9.10
    Total CAD $145.59
    am on xbox series x console
    ahhhh... I see all the typical complainers are out in large fashion..
    Here's a novel idea... Don't like it don't buy it!!!
    go play COD.
    It's a NEW ENGINE on a NEW console. You morons have no idea what it takes to change systems. NHL 21 is GREAT(if) you play actual hockey and dont SPAM the deke button)
    again... DONT LIKE IT DONT BUY IT.. EA doesn't care about you anyway.. they only care about MICROTRANSACTIONS!!!!
    VeNOM3099
    Here is a link to the compare screen for both:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/p/nhl-22/9NX76WG21DVC?rtc=1&activetab=pivot:regionofcompareeditionstab
    Still think it's X/S for 80$?? It's the classic move; sell your previous gen game that's playable on both consoles for less. Charge a premium for the version that's only playable on next gen. I mean who buys a version for next gen they can also play on last gen?? Doesn't happen. You can't buy it by itself (says on your screen it's part of a BUNDLE) On top of it your last gen created player is separate from your next gen created player.
    It's just a clever ruse to get you to pay more for next gen. Just buy the old gen 80$ version. It will play on both XB1 and X/S and you'll be able to carry your created player.

    mercalnd
    Something doesn't add up. I have tried to show with a link. Your link is for a different version than mine. There are versions missing in your link, including the one I posted a link to. I'm guessing it's a us store vs canadian store issue.

    I think I figured out the source of the confusion. If I access the "Compare Editions" page from the XboxOne version's page, I see the same thing you do. Thats because it's only comparing the editions that include the Xbox One version.
    However if you just do a search for NHL 22 on the Microsoft Store website, you find all the different versions, including the standalone next gen version.
    Visually the game looks great. I'll wait to see gameplay before giving my opinion.
    Sidenote, does anyone on here actualy give a fk about the outdoor rink in WOC, or even play WOC? EASHL should be the main focus, not some stupid 3 on 3 played outdoors wearing dumb costumes
    mercalnd
    I think I figured out the source of the confusion. If I access the "Compare Editions" page from the XboxOne version's page, I see the same thing you do. Thats because it's only comparing the editions that include the Xbox One version.
    However if you just do a search for NHL 22 on the Microsoft Store website, you find all the different versions, including the standalone next gen version.

    It doesn't matter really. At the end of the day the "smart man" will get the Xbox One Standard Version for 80$ and play it on Series X as backwards compatible. Especially if you play LG where your character doesn't transfer if you got the 130$ version for "next gen".
    jdl24
    In the coming weeks more will be shared on the World of CHEL, Hockey Ultimate Team, Be A Pro and Franchise modes, as well as some long-requested community features
    That last sentence is reason for hope that we may get roster sharing, custom arena music and/or custom goalie masks.
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    Where did they say this? This makes me somewhat optimistic about 22. especially the last part.
    Grentthealien
    Where did they say this? This makes me somewhat optimistic about 22. especially the last part.

    It’s the last paragraph from the article in the first post.
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    am happy with my buy of NHL 22 x-factor edition anyways, see you guys on October 11th of 4 days early release day, I will still be making adjustments to my NHL 21 for now, in tell such time of NHL 21 ends they cut support to it.
    am not trying to be biassed or anything, when it said 129, didn't know it was gonna be 145.59, hopefully, my jobs get back on schedule and I can pay for it fully.
    I used last my wallet size on it :cheers:
    don't let this deter you from buying any versions of NHL 22.
    Grentthealien
    Where did they say this? This makes me somewhat optimistic about 22. especially the last part.

    If I had to guess these ‘long requested community features’ will be like better lobbies and other stuff that only online players care about.
    Moose24x
    If I had to guess these ‘long requested community features’ will be like better lobbies and other stuff that only online players care about.

    Doesn't that always seem to be the case, though?
    The business models for games at this point are pretty clear. The convergence of all sports games - and really all games in general - is making a core gameplay loop that's basically 'good enough' that people won't actively stop playing, and then reeling in as much revenue as they can from the minority percentage of gamers who spend a ton of money on post-release content/microtransactions (that aren't even really that 'micro' any more...).
    Given this industry reality, does anyone really expect any effort is going to be put into making the on-the-ice game any better/more realistic? Their feedback (e.g. revenue) tells them this doesn't move the needle for their recurring revenue stream, so it's a bad investment. As a shareholder of the company (via indexes), I admire their focus on ruthless efficiency in monetizing their properties/licenses. As someone that really loves sports games, the advent of 'games as services' and 'recurring revenue streams' is the worst thing that's ever happened to my (rapidly becoming former) hobby.
    pietasterp
    As someone that really loves sports games, the advent of 'games as services' and 'recurring revenue streams' is the worst thing that's ever happened to my (rapidly becoming former) hobby.

    Very well said.
    This trend has largely killed me off as a customer over the last decade...
    It’s such a drag
    Eddie1967
    Thank you! the complaints are from the same ole crowd that whines and moans year after year and feel the need to tell everyone that will not be buying the game even though they purchase it year after year. It's amazing how negative these forums have become. They are complaining about a trailer but haven't seen a game play video but in their mind it's already a bad game. The same crowd every year.

    EA, year after year, puts out trailers and PR that screams that this game is not for those guys. I thought the trailer looked great. Kinda makes me want a Series X even more.
    But this thread is why EA could care less what the mindshare at OS thinks. Too many geezers that forgot how to have fun with sports games a long, long time ago. Thank God they dominate every conversation.
    leech1310
    Visually the game looks great. I'll wait to see gameplay before giving my opinion.
    Sidenote, does anyone on here actualy give a fk about the outdoor rink in WOC, or even play WOC? EASHL should be the main focus, not some stupid 3 on 3 played outdoors wearing dumb costumes

    I would say Threes and WoC make up 75% of my game time with NHL.
    pietasterp
    As someone that really loves sports games, the advent of 'games as services' and 'recurring revenue streams' is the worst thing that's ever happened to my (rapidly becoming former) hobby.

    Honestly, it's been the opposite for me. I can take sports I play less, like FIFA and the NBA, and just wait for the Season Pass version. I had pretty much been that way with NHL, but it was Chel and Threes that got me back to buying the game day one again.
    And I may end up buying FIFA 22 day one, because I've been having such a blast with the FIFA 21 on Gamepass.
    Overall, I play more games and spend less money now than before games as a service took off.
    XxVal_MarXx
    Sorry for the misplaced question guys, I'm Italian and my English sucks, does this game have Italian subtitles?

    First your English is as good or better than a lot of people on this site lol. I can’t speak for nhl 22 but I turned on nhl 21 and saw no way to change the language from English. I also went ahead in my Xbox settings and changed my language from English to Italian but that didn’t affect the language in nhl 21. Sorry for the bad news, maybe 22 will be different but it’s unlikely.
    BenVenom
    First your English is as good or better than a lot of people on this site lol. I can’t speak for nhl 22 but I turned on nhl 21 and saw no way to change the language from English. I also went ahead in my Xbox settings and changed my language from English to Italian but that didn’t affect the language in nhl 21. Sorry for the bad news, maybe 22 will be different but it’s unlikely.
    Thanks for the reply, I would like to buy the game when it comes out, do you think it is difficult to understand all the settings?
    Is there a franchise mode to be played for several years with the various draft classes ?, such as NBA2k
    XxVal_MarXx
    Thanks for the reply, I would like to buy the game when it comes out, do you think it is difficult to understand all the settings?
    Is there a franchise mode to be played for several years with the various draft classes ?, such as NBA2k

    There is a multi year franchise and last year it was much improved from previous years. Scouting for example was given a lot of attention. I can’t answer whether you would have difficulty understanding the games setting but based off the way you write English and seem to understand written English I think you will be fine. I will have the game day 1 so any questions I and I’m sure many others here will be happy to answer and help. You can ask on the forums or ask me directly. Hope this helps.
    XxVal_MarXx
    Thanks for the reply, I would like to buy the game when it comes out, do you think it is difficult to understand all the settings?
    Is there a franchise mode to be played for several years with the various draft classes ?, such as NBA2k

    There is a multi year franchise and last year it was much improved from previous years. Scouting for example was given a lot of attention. I can’t answer whether you would have difficulty understanding the games setting but based off the way you write English and seem to understand written English I think you will be fine. I will have the game day 1 so any questions I and I’m sure many others here will be happy to answer and help. You can ask on the forums or ask me directly. Hope this helps. As far as draft classes there is no roster share so you can’t get realistic draft classes like 2k if someone created them. There is a draft every post season in the NHL games with fictitious players. I do think when starting your franchise you can opt to start your season before the draft that just happened last month and re-do the draft and that would be real players for just that year.
    BenVenom
    There is a multi year franchise and last year it was much improved from previous years. Scouting for example was given a lot of attention. I can’t answer whether you would have difficulty understanding the games setting but based off the way you write English and seem to understand written English I think you will be fine. I will have the game day 1 so any questions I and I’m sure many others here will be happy to answer and help. You can ask on the forums or ask me directly. Hope this helps. As far as draft classes there is no roster share so you can’t get realistic draft classes like 2k if someone created them. There is a draft every post season in the NHL games with fictitious players. I do think when starting your franchise you can opt to start your season before the draft that just happened last month and re-do the draft and that would be real players for just that year.
    Thanks for your availability, we may be hearing from October 15th, good things man
    tullyd
    get a life people and wait until you see actual gameplay before You judge whether the game is good. you cant judge a game based on a 2 min trailer.

    I think that's the problem. They decided to put out this trailer, understanding (or possibly not) that it wouldn't excite the crowd on here. If they wanted to excite people, they should've put out something from this game that we could judge, like straight gameplay.
    Video game trailers are the most unnecessary thing in the industry if they can't encapsulate what you're going to play. They don't excite, they just mislead.
    Blzer
    I think that's the problem. They decided to put out this trailer, understanding (or possibly not) that it wouldn't excite the crowd on here. If they wanted to excite people, they should've put out something from this game that we could judge, like straight gameplay.
    Video game trailers are the most unnecessary thing in the industry if they can't encapsulate what you're going to play. They don't excite, they just mislead.

    The problem is, that was a great trailer for people they are actually trying to sell the game to. If the people here were excited, it would not necessarily be a good thing.
    But it is interesting that some people are starting to realize that trailers are commercials, not informative coverage. Maybe they can take that next step and stop crying when publishers don't put out commercials soon enough for them? Doubt it.
    I'm still on the PS3 gen lol.
    But if NHL and a game like WWE and MLB has roster sharing and custom music, I'll definitely be getting a PS5 maybe by next year.
    But I'm guessing those things aren't happening?
    Majingir
    I'm still on the PS3 gen lol.
    But if NHL and a game like WWE and MLB has roster sharing and custom music, I'll definitely be getting a PS5 maybe by next year.
    But I'm guessing those things aren't happening?

    Yup & it doesn't sound like these are even in the cards. I remember an interview Rammer for either NHL 18 or 19, and he said that the lack of custom music had something to do with copyright issues, which is total bs.
    He gave that answer after saying the console's lack the ability to support custom music when they first launched in 2014. It just feels they don't want to implement those features.
    EDIT: Here's the interview where he talks about custom music really quick at 16:38
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0Pk4ZpI0o
    PhillyGuy11826
    Yup & it doesn't sound like these are even in the cards. I remember an interview Rammer for either NHL 18 or 19, and he said that the lack of custom music had something to do with copyright issues, which is total bs.
    He gave that answer after saying the console's lack the ability to support custom music when they first launched in 2014. It just feels they don't want to implement those features.
    EDIT: Here's the interview where he talks about custom music really quick at 16:38
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY0Pk4ZpI0o
    Which does sound ridiculous. What copyright issues? Custom music allows you to use whatever you want in the game and if anything, allows EA to not have to put as many songs in their game because players can do it themselves.
    Custom music and roster sharing are really only taken out because they want people to get games every year. Look at some old games on PS3 gen, because of roster sharing and custom music, you can make the game still feel modern all these years later.
    I really wanted to get a PS5, but not sure if it would be worth it if games of this gen won't have some of the biggest features on the game that I use.
    Actually, he's right about that one. Unbeknownst to most people MS came out with a stealth update that removed the ability to rip your music to your console because of (you guessed it) Licensing issues. Even games that had the ability for you to listen to your own music from things like Spotify or Groove, like Forza Horizon 3 stopped that ability.
    Even now the music industry's practices have made it untenable to play the music YOU paid for on things like streams or youtube videos. What you and many others know as DMCA.
    So if you want to blame someone, blame the music industry, not Rammer. I used to listen to Spotify while I streamed. I used to pay 100$ per year to have a membership. But thanks to the new "rules", there's no point anymore. And if, god forbid, the game I play has DMCA music that I paid to listen to, I have to remove it from my channel. Because no one else is allowed to listen to it.
    Pretty soon they're gonna sue you for listening to your music at home or in the car because other people can hear it...
    JayhawkerStL
    EA, year after year, puts out trailers and PR that screams that this game is not for those guys. I thought the trailer looked great. Kinda makes me want a Series X even more.
    But this thread is why EA could care less what the mindshare at OS thinks. Too many geezers that forgot how to have fun with sports games a long, long time ago. Thank God they dominate every conversation.

    I'm on the right side of 30, I just have standards and I think that the sport of hockey is already "fun" lol. Not to mention the fact that the in-game tuners could EASILY be dialed back without going into the realm of "too real" where it's frustrating to even carry a puck. But yeah, let's take a look at this series for a second here and let's see why people we might be a bit frustrated, jaded, annoyed shall we?
    Took them 15 years to make a new sliding shot blocking animation (I was in middle school when we first saw this rendition, I now am in my 5th year of my professional career) they still use the same line strategies as NHL 99, protect the puck was added in what? 09? So they finally updated that animation but locked it behind a super power? 12 years for that? Wow, impressive. Thank goodness they added the Michigan though before these two actually practical and useful animations (one blocked behind a super power though, don't forget), that's a sign of a great lead producer with exceptional vision. The goalie going full splits on a first shot has been in since what, 06? Still not fixed. They added an animation that appears to be a fat guy trying to roll in order to stand up though, so that's a cool super power.
    Board play was added in what? 09? 10? Still ZERO update to that animation set. Flip dumps added in 09, haven't been expanded upon huh? No attempt to make glass chipping more feasible/realistic despite the CPU AI doing it via a 720 McTwist with speed perfectly off the glass every time. And flip dumps always are either underpowered line drives or full-ice punts, can't execute high flips that die like the real NHL, but thank god we got the michigan.
    They put the RVH in the game finally (in like 17?) but the goalies still don't know how to kick off the post rather than leaving the RVH which puts their pad on the outside of the post then doing a butterfly slide over to the pass which always results in them getting beat. Goalies online still completely sell out on the shooter when playing 2-on-0's regardless of how brief the break is resulting in one easy pass leading to a goal. This is easily fixed via attributes (I did it) but requires about 5 minutes of effort.
    Added a new skating engine to the game that is actually super impressive. So what do they do? Tune it to 09 floating levels where players are completely weightless and it takes literally zero skill or awareness to move at all, so glad we went from floating, to excruciating pain via TPS which was overly difficult and limiting compared to real life, back to floating. Glad there's no middle-ground to be had. Same with RPM checking. Great engine so naturally you tune it so that zero small-speed hits can happen and we only see ragdoll hits that look like NHL hitz when playing online cause that's "fun" I guess? Again, 5 minutes of effort can tune this engine into something that can deliver both and can provide a better skill gap but that requires effort/awareness.
    They literally just didn't put EASHL in 15 and hid that fact for as long as possible to keep their pre-order numbers up. False advertised legends in offline modes in 18. Captain lag destroyed the online league scene in 16 (great start for the EASHL community this generation) for the entire life cycle of the game.
    So yeah, idk why people are still made, annoyed, expecting more from this series. They really have treated their fans quite well this last generation. Silent crowds, ignored features, out-dated animations, braindead AI, no roster share (oh still no roster share in 22, woohoo!) no GMC, goalies are abysmal, but yeah man these geezers just can't have fun man LOL.........
    Right. EA has said, in pre-release trailers and information, that you won't like the game, and that you're no longer a customer they need to make a profit. In fact, you more of an impediment to profit.
    Anything they do to keep you in the game is a lose-lose proposition. There is no end to what needs to be fixed, so keeping fans like you means having negative PR every single year.
    The problem is, sports gamers can't take a clue, and worse, think they are entitled to a AAA sports game of their favorite sport, made to their specifications, or they will seriously, for more than a decade, complain every year as though EA even cares. Mostly, they would just like you to stop calling their target demographic kids (they aren't) and filthy casuals that don't understand the sport (they aren't), and mocking them in forums where they want to talk about a game THEY like.
    Hey man, I don't care if you like the game. I've found A&S' enjoyment of the game really fun to follow, I even tried his slider set just to get a feel for what he's groovin' with in 21. I'm genuinely envious of people who can enjoy NHL like I enjoy Madden as let's face it, the more you know about the respective sport whether it's football, hockey, or soccer, the less you'll be able to stomach the respective EA game. I follow football casually, I'm a self-proclaimed casual, and Madden gives me enjoyment and challenge that is perfect for me (but I do like college football much better so I don't touch Madden much). With NHL, I am not able to do that. I have to give a ton of TLC to make this game fun (and if you follow my posts, you know that I play this game in a very unique way, so it's not like I don't try to get the most out of these games. It's a very honest and ongoing effort atm for me) because it's fundamentally poor hockey and I am able to identify that as a student of the real game. I'm not expecting real life by any means, but the level of disregard for offline play by this dev team in this entire last generation sticks out like a sore thumb.
    I just find it funny that you paint this broad picture of anywhere who could dare question EA's direction as "old-timers" and just thought I'd give my take as someone younger than you. And in a public forum, why can't people complain about the game? Just as much as you like to praise low-effort money machines, everyone else is entitled to critique them. There's no alternative so I don't think "walk away and be quiet" is a legitimate response to someone wanting the game to be more accessible to the way they want to play. I don't think anyone on OS is delusional enough to think we're the target/majority audience, but I also don't think it's wrong for the hardcore fans of their respective sports to voice their opinions in hopes that some sort of marginal improvement to a product they'd like to enjoy. I mean, this game isn't "NHL Hitz" this game is "NHL" and for better or for worse, there's some sort of sim expectation for a game that's marketed on that fine line of realism and fun. EA brings this on themselves, not the community.
    You call those people (me included) "toxic old-timers" and you get called a "casual" lol, big deal. Ignore the posts then and just post your reviews/thoughts without having to put everyone down for not "accepting" the state of the game. I personally like reading fair criticisms that take time and effort to write where you can feel the passion and energy behind the post. It doesn't make someone toxic because they have passion and want to see the game improve.
    JayhawkerStL
    Right. EA has said, in pre-release trailers and information, that you won't like the game, and that you're no longer a customer they need to make a profit. In fact, you more of an impediment to profit.
    Anything they do to keep you in the game is a lose-lose proposition. There is no end to what needs to be fixed, so keeping fans like you means having negative PR every single year.
    The problem is, sports gamers can't take a clue, and worse, think they are entitled to a AAA sports game of their favorite sport, made to their specifications, or they will seriously, for more than a decade, complain every year as though EA even cares. Mostly, they would just like you to stop calling their target demographic kids (they aren't) and filthy casuals that don't understand the sport (they aren't), and mocking them in forums where they want to talk about a game THEY like.

    I mean... Yes. To a certain degree.
    But their message has been coming around as "We want their money, but we value the rest of our loyal followers." And sadly they don't.
    Look, there's nothing wrong with targeting your game towards kids (they are) or filthy casual (they are too). But eventually they'll grow up too. They'll want more in a few years.
    Eddie Murphy said it best: "You eat the same crackers every day for years. Then you wake up one day and turn around and say: Hey... I just got some regular ol' crackers."
    What I'm trying to say is eventually the "Nashers" and the "Sleeveless" will want more. What's EA solution gonna be then? They'll no longer be part of their demographic so let's drop em?
    Well, ok. I'd want a loyal following that keeps on growing. They are settling for a stagnant following that's here today, gone tomorrow. Intelligent...
    VeNOM3099
    I mean... Yes. To a certain degree.
    But their message has been coming around as "We want their money, but we value the rest of our loyal followers." And sadly they don't.
    Look, there's nothing wrong with targeting your game towards kids (they are) or filthy casual (they are too). But eventually they'll grow up too. They'll want more in a few years.
    Eddie Murphy said it best: "You eat the same crackers every day for years. Then you wake up one day and turn around and say: Hey... I just got some regular ol' crackers."
    What I'm trying to say is eventually the "Nashers" and the "Sleeveless" will want more. What's EA solution gonna be then? They'll no longer be part of their demographic so let's drop em?
    Well, ok. I'd want a loyal following that keeps on growing. They are settling for a stagnant following that's here today, gone tomorrow. Intelligent...

    Why can't EA just make the game play so that on one setting it is a simulation of real hockey and then on another setting it is the arcade version we get now. and let the offline guys choose between either one and online are stuck with the arcade version if that's the way EA wants it.
    The problem with EA NHL games is that they don't make enough money to hire more people apparently, which they say is why the game is what it is. But by not fixing the AI, allowing roster sharing, Etc. for us "old timers" instead of building their fan base they are losing us that give them money every year. they stay around the same numbers in sales or maybe even decreasing over time. If they would split the improvements between offline and online fans and actually listen to the offline fans they should be able to put out a game that makes everyone more happy than they are now and maybe they can try to increase their sales to afford more programmers. My point is that there are alot of fans of this game that have purchased this series every year since the beginning or atleast for a long time and i think they are getting sick and tired of the same game every year. The game used to have great new features every year that made you want to buy the newest game each year. but now its all about the CHEL
    I definitely think they care about the franchise players such as myself and many others on this forum. They made some good additions in NHL 21.
    The problem for me is, the game play hasn't changed much in several years and it's become stagnant, boring and predictable.
    I'm optimistically hopeful the switch to the frostbite engine breathes new life into gameplay and allows them to enhance the AI. Not only that, but the presentation needs a major overhaul as well.
    MizzouRah
    I definitely think they care about the franchise players such as myself and many others on this forum. They made some good additions in NHL 21.
    The problem for me is, the game play hasn't changed much in several years and it's become stagnant, boring and predictable.
    I'm optimistically hopeful the switch to the frostbite engine breathes new life into gameplay and allows them to enhance the AI. Not only that, but the presentation needs a major overhaul as well.

    I agree with you here. I think they care about the off-ice stuff for franchise and have shown a commitment to it. Now they need to do the on-ice stuff because the off-ice stuff is really only as good a text simulator without having an engaging offline experience. The atmosphere, team intros, the AI, the puck physics, goalies, everything needs a revisit. The online community will be fine with whatever every year like they are every year, give the offline on-ice product some love.
    HipNotiiC_x
    I agree with you here. I think they care about the off-ice stuff for franchise and have shown a commitment to it. Now they need to do the on-ice stuff because the off-ice stuff is really only as good a text simulator without having an engaging offline experience. The atmosphere, team intros, the AI, the puck physics, goalies, everything needs a revisit. The online community will be fine with whatever every year like they are every year, give the offline on-ice product some love.

    Exactly... I mainly played NHL 21 as a simulator, which was quite weird as I typically like to play every game.
    babaracus88
    Why can't EA just make the game play so that on one setting it is a simulation of real hockey and then on another setting it is the arcade version we get now. and let the offline guys choose between either one and online are stuck with the arcade version if that's the way EA wants it.
    The problem with EA NHL games is that they don't make enough money to hire more people apparently, which they say is why the game is what it is. But by not fixing the AI, allowing roster sharing, Etc. for us "old timers" instead of building their fan base they are losing us that give them money every year. they stay around the same numbers in sales or maybe even decreasing over time. If they would split the improvements between offline and online fans and actually listen to the offline fans they should be able to put out a game that makes everyone more happy than they are now and maybe they can try to increase their sales to afford more programmers. My point is that there are alot of fans of this game that have purchased this series every year since the beginning or atleast for a long time and i think they are getting sick and tired of the same game every year. The game used to have great new features every year that made you want to buy the newest game each year. but now its all about the CHEL

    The main problem is that they "care" about us, but we don't bring them enough money. That's why the game is designed more for the HUT crowd; they don't care how the game plays, how challenging it is. Most of them don't know what hockey IS.
    The thing is that the game would be better if they made it play 3 different ways; 1 offline (Sim), 1 HUT (Arcade), 1 VS/EASHL (Mix of Both). And that's mostly achievable through sliders and making the AI NOT dumb.
    VeNOM3099
    The main problem is that they "care" about us, but we don't bring them enough money. That's why the game is designed more for the HUT crowd; they don't care how the game plays, how challenging it is. Most of them don't know what hockey IS.
    The thing is that the game would be better if they made it play 3 different ways; 1 offline (Sim), 1 HUT (Arcade), 1 VS/EASHL (Mix of Both). And that's mostly achievable through sliders and making the AI NOT dumb.
    I agree, it works the same for NBA2K too
    XxVal_MarXx
    I agree, it works the same for NBA2K too

    1000%.
    2K is just as greedy. The difference is that the main core of the game is actually good, so they don't have to mess with it too much. Just, you guessed it, make the AI better.
    PS: Oh, and also make their online better because GAWD DAYUM is it bad!!!
    MizzouRah
    I definitely think they care about the franchise players such as myself and many others on this forum. They made some good additions in NHL 21.
    The problem for me is, the game play hasn't changed much in several years and it's become stagnant, boring and predictable.
    I'm optimistically hopeful the switch to the frostbite engine breathes new life into gameplay and allows them to enhance the AI. Not only that, but the presentation needs a major overhaul as well.

    If the frostbite engine doesn't breathe new life into the gameplay then nothing will. It was definitely noticeable in the FIFA series and after playing Madden 22 today, I can honestly say the player movement on next-gen is much better. Hopefully that translates to the NHL series with better skating and puck physics.

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