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MLB The Show 21 Patch 12 Available Today - Patch Notes

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MLB The Show 21 Patch 12 Available Today - Patch Notes

MLB The Show 21 patch 12 is available for PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S. The update addresses an issue that was introduced in patch 11, along with a couple other updates.

With the patch installed, players can once again back out of the bullpen screen following a second mound visit in online head to head games. There were also some pitching motion adjustments made to Edinson Volquez and Shohei Ohtani is now available in Home Run Derby.

As always, let us know what you’re seeing.

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  1. The bullpen/mound visit issue introduced in the previous patch has been corrected.
    Played a game this morning where I made a mound visit and then repeatedly went into bullpen to view the status of relievers and wasn't forced to make a pitching change.
    This was done via the quick menu, and not by the pause screen.
    Glad to see they fixed that issue ASAP as it was highly annoying.
    Are you guys noticing any difference in cpu offence since the last patch? Still haven’t grabbed patch 11, wondering if contact swing changes have positive or negative impact
    baseballguy99
    Are you guys noticing any difference in cpu offence since the last patch? Still haven’t grabbed patch 11, wondering if contact swing changes have positive or negative impact

    No changes in my experience
    Cubs just lit my pitching staff up the previous 3 games (patch 11)
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    Is anybody else not getting the update? I am still stuck on version 1.0.0.61. Even if I launch the game, no update prompt comes through. I've even turned the console all the way off and then back on again.
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    Guess they’re just gonna sweep the schedule times in franchise issue under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist. Just an acknowledgment on the issue and if it’s even being looked at to be fixed is all most want.
    ReturnoftheTmac
    Guess they’re just gonna sweep the schedule times in franchise issue under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist. Just an acknowledgment on the issue and if it’s even being looked at to be fixed is all most want.
    It CAN'T be fixed or else it would've already. After year one in a franchise the schedule problem isn't there anyway. Just have to deal with playing more day games in year one. Not really a game breaker is it?
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    ReturnoftheTmac
    Guess they’re just gonna sweep the schedule times in franchise issue under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist. Just an acknowledgment on the issue and if it’s even being looked at to be fixed is all most want.

    This was a hot patch to fix the mound visit/bullpen bug introduced in the last patch.
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    ReturnoftheTmac
    Guess they’re just gonna sweep the schedule times in franchise issue under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist. Just an acknowledgment on the issue and if it’s even being looked at to be fixed is all most want.

    Yeah, that would be nice.
    “Yes, the schedule is an issue. We are sorry, but that can’t be fixed this cycle.”
    Ok, thanks for the acknowledgment. That’ll work.
    “Yes, we know most prospects have incorrect ages. We are working on this, OR, This will be corrected for 2022.”
    At least make the nod to the community.
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    IUThor40
    Yeah, that would be nice.
    “Yes, the schedule is an issue. We are sorry, but that can’t be fixed this cycle.”
    Ok, thanks for the acknowledgment. That’ll work.
    “Yes, we know most prospects have incorrect ages. We are working on this, OR, This will be corrected for 2022.”
    At least make the nod to the community.
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    They haven't been involved in the community for years and for good reason. If they actually came here on OS like Russell and a couple others used to and said that, we would have a handful of people strongly criticizing and saying how could they release the game with that problem, blah blah blah. That's exactly why they no longer post here imo and I don't blame them.
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    IrishSalsa
    They haven't been involved in the community for years and for good reason. If they actually came here on OS like Russell and a couple others used to and said that, we would have a handful of people strongly criticizing and saying how could they release the game with that problem, blah blah blah. That's exactly why they no longer post here imo and I don't blame them.
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    I think sometimes people forget this is a video game.
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    jcar0725
    I think sometimes people forget this is a video game.
    Sent from my thoughts

    See....you’re wrong. This is real life, not a wonderful escape.
    SDS knows what the problems are with the schedules/ages. We need to be given a heads up, an acknowledgement? They get these bugs reported. As messy as this release was they are chugging along, I’m sure.....or....they do this all on purpose, lol. And particular bugs aside it’s a great game. Hell, they even did a movie with Steve McQueen, The Great Escape.
    Any chance you think they’ll patch in the ability to take off the extra innings rule and change the DH rule in the middle of a franchise?
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    marcus flemming
    Any chance you think they’ll patch in the ability to take off the extra innings rule and change the DH rule in the middle of a franchise?
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    I dont think they would patch those since they are not bugs they're intentional.
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    marcus flemming
    Any chance you think they’ll patch in the ability to take off the extra innings rule and change the DH rule in the middle of a franchise?
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    I highly doubt it as they have never been a proponent of allowing user's to change the rules once a franchise has started.
    Its something I would like to see though in the future
    IrishSalsa
    They haven't been involved in the community for years and for good reason. If they actually came here on OS like Russell and a couple others used to and said that, we would have a handful of people strongly criticizing and saying how could they release the game with that problem, blah blah blah. That's exactly why they no longer post here imo and I don't blame them.
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    No, my point was not that they have to hop on OS or any other forum, and engage with the community.
    I’m sure they are aware of the issues. They get the reports and submissions on it all.
    However, I think companies and businesses can buy themselves a solid amount of goodwill with transparency. Could they post major/larger known issues on a central location, and acknowledge what can be patched/will be patched during the 2021 cycle, or what will be addressed in future iterations?
    I don’t expect or need interaction, but transparency would be nice. They used to be much more active, and in my opinion, the quality of the product was much better when they were. That’s not practical anymore, but more transparency would at least make it feel more connected.
    But anymore, they can buy folks off with a free pack or a couple thousand stubs, and all is well.
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    Yo i 1000% agree with you. It is just a video game, its not real life. No matter how hard you try to make this real life, its still a video game. Just enjoy it. Or if not, then move onto another video game.
    jcar0725
    I think sometimes people forget this is a video game.
    Sent from my thoughts

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    IUThor40
    No, my point was not that they have to hop on OS or any other forum, and engage with the community.
    I’m sure they are aware of the issues. They get the reports and submissions on it all.
    However, I think companies and businesses can buy themselves a solid amount of goodwill with transparency.
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    Sometimes silence is all the transparency you need. Just ask a man who has their wife pissed off at them lol
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    I don't know what they fixed but they didn't fix the game crashing in manage mode when you pinch hit or pinch run with a player not at the same position as they play being replaced. Just crashed for me.
    This is very frustrating. I submitted a bug report and submitted a video each and every time - still not fixed. It's clear to me the addition of the ps5 and xbox in the same year was too much for the developers to handle. They need to expand the staff and since xbox wanted to be part of the game they should fund the additional payroll.
    tessl
    I don't know what they fixed but they didn't fix the game crashing in manage mode when you pinch hit or pinch run with a player not at the same position as they play being replaced. Just crashed for me.
    .

    I just experimented with this. Game does crash. I play about half my games on MOM so i’ll have to be careful with this.
    IUThor40
    No, my point was not that they have to hop on OS or any other forum, and engage with the community.
    I’m sure they are aware of the issues. They get the reports and submissions on it all.
    However, I think companies and businesses can buy themselves a solid amount of goodwill with transparency. Could they post major/larger known issues on a central location, and acknowledge what can be patched/will be patched during the 2021 cycle, or what will be addressed in future iterations?
    I don’t expect or need interaction, but transparency would be nice. They used to be much more active, and in my opinion, the quality of the product was much better when they were. That’s not practical anymore, but more transparency would at least make it feel more connected.
    But anymore, they can buy folks off with a free pack or a couple thousand stubs, and all is well.
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    Transparency doesn't do anything anymore.
    If they state they are aware of the bug and are looking into it, people are going to assume that this means they will fix it.If they come out later stating sorry but it cannot be fixed, then people are just going to call them lazy, don't care, say its because its not DD, etc..etc...
    If they straight out say that they cannot fix the issue, then people are going to call them lazy, say they don't care, say they would if it was DD, etc..etc..
    countryboy
    Transparency doesn't do anything anymore.
    If they state they are aware of the bug and are looking into it, people are going to assume that this means they will fix it.If they come out later stating sorry but it cannot be fixed, then people are just going to call them lazy, don't care, say its because its not DD, etc..etc...
    If they straight out say that they cannot fix the issue, then people are going to call them lazy, say they don't care, say they would if it was DD, etc..etc..

    Man that is true. And I remember the days when once you bought a game, that was it. No updates. No bug fixes. They got your money and that was that.
    countryboy
    Transparency doesn't do anything anymore.
    If they state they are aware of the bug and are looking into it, people are going to assume that this means they will fix it.If they come out later stating sorry but it cannot be fixed, then people are just going to call them lazy, don't care, say its because its not DD, etc..etc...
    If they straight out say that they cannot fix the issue, then people are going to call them lazy, say they don't care, say they would if it was DD, etc..etc..
    Spot on. Exactly what would happen with full transparency. Silence is enough transparency for me to understand what is or isn't going to be addressed in any video game.
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    Lol at people getting mad and telling people they don't have a right to at least expect a company to at least acknowledge a pretty big issue in a game they paid for. I didn't call the company negative names or swear off the game. I simply would just like ANY info at all if the issue cuz YES it is a big deal to me. the Padres and Dodgers is the hottest games in the MLB this year and I wanna replicate that in franchise, but I can never experience that in a nighttime atmosphere? It might not be a big deal to some, but don't tell others what is a big deal to them on a game they bought. And it fixing in the second year isn't the same. Player movement is a pretty big thing in the MLB and the rosters won't be the same and a lot of player portraits will be gone. Plus, someone has already stated that the bug does come back in the third year I'm pretty sure.
    ReturnoftheTmac
    Lol at people getting mad and telling people they don't have a right to at least expect a company to at least acknowledge a pretty big issue in a game they paid for. I didn't call the company negative names or swear off the game. I simply would just like ANY info at all if the issue cuz YES it is a big deal to me. the Padres and Dodgers is the hottest games in the MLB this year and I wanna replicate that in franchise, but I can never experience that in a nighttime atmosphere? It might not be a big deal to some, but don't tell others what is a big deal to them on a game they bought. And it fixing in the second year isn't the same. Player movement is a pretty big thing in the MLB and the rosters won't be the same and a lot of player portraits will be gone. Plus, someone has already stated that the bug does come back in the third year I'm pretty sure.

    Nobody said you didn’t have a right, just shared what will happen if they did.
    And nobody said it wasn’t a big deal. I only play 2 of the teams effected three times in their ballpark and it’s very annoying they are day games. Kills the immersion. I can only imagine being one of those teams.
    They do know about the bug. Whether they can fix it or not time will tell.
    And it comes back the 6th not the third year according to some.
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    jcar0725
    Man that is true. And I remember the days when once you bought a game, that was it. No updates. No bug fixes. They got your money and that was that.

    Right? Totally remember that. Grateful for updates etc.
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    ReturnoftheTmac
    Lol at people getting mad and telling people they don't have a right to at least expect a company to at least acknowledge a pretty big issue in a game they paid for..

    Whether it's a big deal is debatable at best, but I do get that it is aggravating for some, it would bother me as well. That said they are under no obligation to acknowledge anything as it's not a game breaker.
    We used to have great interaction with the devs here, in fact we contributed here in fixing a large scheduling bug several years back due in large to our ability to contact them directly in these forums. However a certain subset of our user base at OS quite frankly ruined that dynamic and it is now gone forever.
    This idea about devs not posting here because of meanies is ridiculous. People who want to throw dirt at devs will do it. Twitter, their own forums, wherever. Nothing special about OS guys being meanies to devs. The idea is laughable right on its face.
    Detroit Tigers
    This idea about devs not posting here because of meanies is ridiculous. People who want to throw dirt at devs will do it. Twitter, their own forums, wherever. Nothing special about OS guys being meanies to devs. The idea is laughable right on its face.

    A key difference is probably that spending time on their forums or Twitter/other social media is likely seen as part of the job because it's 2021 and that's where a lot of feedback is.
    Coming to an old message board like OS would be something done on their free time, and who wants to deal with that bull**** when you're off the clock? Not me, I'm sure not you, and I'm sure not any game devs.
    bkrich83
    Whether it's a big deal is debatable at best, but I do get that it is aggravating for some, it would bother me as well. That said they are under no obligation to acknowledge anything as it's not a game breaker.
    We used to have great interaction with the devs here, in fact we contributed here in fixing a large scheduling bug several years back due in large to our ability to contact them directly in these forums. However a certain subset of our user base at OS quite frankly ruined that dynamic and it is now gone forever.

    I remember that. I also remember that when they fixed that schedule bug, it completely nuked any franchise files that had progressed passed that point in the schedule.
    Hence the reason they cannot fix this issue. Or their unwillingness to do so, as doing so would cause Franchises to have to be restarted, infuriating many more people than the fix satisfies....
    Detroit Tigers
    This idea about devs not posting here because of meanies is ridiculous. People who want to throw dirt at devs will do it. Twitter, their own forums, wherever. Nothing special about OS guys being meanies to devs. The idea is laughable right on its face.

    It’s not an idea
    I’ve had more than one developer tell me during pm discussions that they stopped interacting because of the difficulties in having productive discussion.
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    Detroit Tigers
    This idea about devs not posting here because of meanies is ridiculous. People who want to throw dirt at devs will do it. Twitter, their own forums, wherever. Nothing special about OS guys being meanies to devs. The idea is laughable right on its face.
    It was comments similar to this that caused them to go away. Thanks for the example. And Twitter wasn't even a thing back when they roamed OS boards. Ahh the good ole days before social media and big tech took over the world.
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    tessl
    I don't know what they fixed but they didn't fix the game crashing in manage mode when you pinch hit or pinch run with a player not at the same position as they play being replaced. Just crashed for me.
    This is very frustrating. I submitted a bug report and submitted a video each and every time - still not fixed. It's clear to me the addition of the ps5 and xbox in the same year was too much for the developers to handle. They need to expand the staff and since xbox wanted to be part of the game they should fund the additional payroll.

    I sent in a bug report as well for this issue. Hopefully it get fixed but considering the fact it took two years to fix in game injuries I am not holding my breath.
    I will though keep sending in bug reports after each patch.
    IrishSalsa
    It was comments similar to this that caused them to go away. Thanks for the example. And Twitter wasn't even a thing back when they roamed OS boards. Ahh the good ole days before social media and big tech took over the world.
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    Yes but at same time devs explaining their point of view is probably the best way to manage expectations and having the community to cool down. I would say at least 95% here understand and reacted positively to devs comments, even when it was not going in the direction they wanted.
    Funny fact, look at all the replies of SDS Twitter account and the most venomous ones are from their loved community of DD players complaining about not hitting the ball square enough, not enough cards released or with not high enough ratings etc :lol:
    CMcCord84
    Why have they not fixed the west coast teams home games are all day games, has anyone sent a bug report? This is ridiculous

    No idea why it hasn't been fixed
    And yes a bug report has been sent.
    IUThor40
    No, my point was not that they have to hop on OS or any other forum, and engage with the community.
    I’m sure they are aware of the issues. They get the reports and submissions on it all.
    However, I think companies and businesses can buy themselves a solid amount of goodwill with transparency. Could they post major/larger known issues on a central location, and acknowledge what can be patched/will be patched during the 2021 cycle, or what will be addressed in future iterations?
    I don’t expect or need interaction, but transparency would be nice. They used to be much more active, and in my opinion, the quality of the product was much better when they were. That’s not practical anymore, but more transparency would at least make it feel more connected.
    But anymore, they can buy folks off with a free pack or a couple thousand stubs, and all is well.
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    Im not sure what you're profession is. I also am not going to say these companies all have the greatest marketing plans. But I CAN tell you , in general, it DOES not garner goodwill to release a statement laying out all the things that are wrong with your game unless you are working to fix it. What good would it do to say, hey we messed up the prospect ages and we can't fix it until we rework all the code which won't happen for another 3 years
    And something else.. think of the amount of ppl that buy the game.. Ive seen maybe 10-20 people on here complaining about the schedule times. TBH , the prospect ages and DEF the game times are something I would have not even really been aware of IF I were on these boards.
    TripleCrown
    Yes but at same time devs explaining their point of view is probably the best way to manage expectations and having the community to cool down. I would say at least 95% here understand and reacted positively to devs comments, even when it was not going in the direction they wanted.
    Funny fact, look at all the replies of SDS Twitter account and the most venomous ones are from their loved community of DD players complaining about not hitting the ball square enough, not enough cards released or with not high enough ratings etc
    Oh yeah I agree that a overwhelming majority here on OS wanted and actually did provide great discussions with the devs back then. But as the old saying goes, one bad apple can ruin the entire batch. It's all good though, I don't think anyone here who remembers those times are actually completely butt hurt about it lol
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    The problem I see with the "meanness drove out the devs" theory is that the devs are still monitoring and communicating on the shownation forums, where I see just as much (if not more) negativity than I see here.
    If lack of productive discussion is truly keeping them off these boards that would really be a lame excuse. We're all are aware of the angry troll posts and they're quite easy to avoid if you want. No reason they can't do it. It's pretty easy to spot productive discussion and there's actually quite a bit of it here, but a lot of it gets ignored. If they're unable to filter out cyber noise in this day and age then either they don't know how to navigate the internet, or lack basic maturity. Most people see plenty of useless or inane commentary but simply skip over it without much thought or distress.
    So I think it's more likely they want to keep a smaller footprint and have fewer interactions to keep expectations in check. Not saying that's right; I just think it's what "is".
    ktd1976
    I remember that. I also remember that when they fixed that schedule bug, it completely nuked any franchise files that had progressed passed that point in the schedule.
    Hence the reason they cannot fix this issue. Or their unwillingness to do so, as doing so would cause Franchises to have to be restarted, infuriating many more people than the fix satisfies....

    I forgot about that. Yes you are 100% correct it did nuke Franchise files, I think it was due to a major change in the database and it wonked everything up in the franchise.
    JTommy67
    The problem I see with the "meanness drove out the devs" theory is that the devs are still monitoring and communicating on the shownation forums, where I see just as much (if not more) negativity as I see here.

    Going to their official forums is part of their job/job description. Coming to OS on their own time and getting the **** beat out of them verbally (and it was really bad.) is not. Why would they come back? I know for fact this is why they stopped.
    It does suck to because we actually helped fix a previous scheduling bug, and previous scoring bugs due to that interaction, as we have some guys here who can be really helpful and insightful. At this point it's moot though as there's zero chance they ever come back, and that's on us.
    SmashMan
    A key difference is probably that spending time on their forums or Twitter/other social media is likely seen as part of the job because it's 2021 and that's where a lot of feedback is.
    Coming to an old message board like OS would be something done on their free time, and who wants to deal with that bull**** when you're off the clock? Not me, I'm sure not you, and I'm sure not any game devs.

    Not only that but it got personal. Why would they come back? Some people around here just don't get it.
    bkrich83
    Not only that but it got personal. Why would they come back? Some people around here just don't get it.

    Exactly. And the saddest part about it is that this has happened with three of the major players over the years - EA, 2K, and now Sony/SDS.....and people here just won't accept why they leave and would rather accuse the devs of being snowflakes who can't take criticism. To their credit the UFC devs still have a presence here, though even that has diminished with GPD's departure (which further demonstrates that posting here is not a part of a developer's job requirement - it's something they do on their own time).
    Yeah it probably has a lot more to do with them just not wanting to go around to more than 2 or 3 forms of social media. I don’t post on the show nation but I do browse there and yeah… there’s a lot of complaining and trash talking to the devs so that’s definitely not why they don’t come here.
    BlueSkies77
    Yeah it probably has a lot more to do with them just not wanting to go around to more than 2 or 3 forms of social media. I don’t post on the show nation but I do browse there and yeah… there’s a lot of complaining and trash talking to the devs so that’s definitely not why they don’t come here.
    As a couple others already said...it's part of their job description to go and interact on their own show forums. If it wasn't I guarantee you they wouldn't go there either. Coming to OS was on their own free time and their choice out of the love they have for the game they create and desire to make it better.
    OS I always assumed was created for those who truly want true sports Simulation video games. A place where like minded can interact and work together to help create that for any sports game. SDS knows that so that is why they chose here to come and interact. Because they always did and still do strive for the most realistic experience possible with their game.
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    They still interact via PM with some members.
    We were able to get a host of visual bugs sorted out for MLB 20 over the course of the first 6 weeks of that games release.
    As far as posting in OS….they still did back when 20 came out. But since then yeah……vapor.
    As far as them coming out with an explanation about the schedule times….I simply think they can’t fix it for existing franchises and it may cause a major problem for existing ones.
    The only bright side is that it cures itself in year 2 according to many who have tested it already.
    It is a bummer for those that only play one season.
    I still remember when games had zero ability for live updates. The game you bought…that was it.
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    Armor and Sword
    They still interact via PM with some members.
    We were able to get a host of visual bugs sorted out for MLB 20 over the course of the first 6 weeks of that games release.
    As far as posting in OS….they still did back when 20 came out. But since then yeah……vapor.
    As far as them coming out with an explanation about the schedule times….I simply think they can’t fix it for existing franchises and it may cause a major problem for existing ones.
    The only bright side is that it cures itself in year 2 according to many who have tested it already.
    It is a bummer for those that only play one season.
    I still remember when games had zero ability for live updates. The game you bought…that was it.
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    yup I was stuck with that lefty glitch in MVP 2004. PC users got it fixed but not Ps2 gamers.
    BlueSkies77
    yup I was stuck with that lefty glitch in MVP 2004. PC users got it fixed but not Ps2 gamers.

    The old too much top spin on balls hit by lefty hitter glitch. 😁
    CMcCord84
    Why have they not fixed the west coast teams home games are all day games, has anyone sent a bug report? This is ridiculous

    The most likely reason they haven't fixed it, is because they either cannot fix it. Or they cannot fix it without completely messing up Franchise saves that have progressed passed games that have the times changed. A "fix" that would infuriate many more people than it would satisfy, as it would cause all franchises to have to be restarted.
    Something similar happened a few years ago. SCEA put out a patch that changed the schedule, and it completely nuked any franchise files that were past the game that was changed. Forcing people to either start their franchises over, or not download the patch.
    lemarflacco
    Im not sure what you're profession is. I also am not going to say these companies all have the greatest marketing plans. But I CAN tell you , in general, it DOES not garner goodwill to release a statement laying out all the things that are wrong with your game unless you are working to fix it. What good would it do to say, hey we messed up the prospect ages and we can't fix it until we rework all the code which won't happen for another 3 years
    And something else.. think of the amount of ppl that buy the game.. Ive seen maybe 10-20 people on here complaining about the schedule times. TBH , the prospect ages and DEF the game times are something I would have not even really been aware of IF I were on these boards.

    The prospect age thing wouldn’t be an issue if
    A) We could edit them ourselves;
    B) It wasn’t a major touted feature of the game itself.
    If they would just leave the ability to edit ages to us, no issue.
    If they could simply adjust the age like they do positions, no problem.
    Or, just leave prospects to the community, and don’t market this as a huge feature when it’s halfway done.
    Just my two cents. It’s a lost cause at this point. And I realize I’m in the minority.
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    Jeffrey Smith
    Hopefully contact swing hasn’t been completely nerfed.
    Contact swing shouldn’t be limited to foul balls only.
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    Not totally nerfed for sure. I hit a 2 strike HR using contact swing w Michael Brantley yesterday.

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