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MLB The Show 21 Arrives on April 20 with Cross-Platform Play & Cross Progression - Some Details Revealed

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MLB The Show 21 Arrives on April 20 with Cross-Platform Play & Cross Progression - Some Details Revealed

After it leaked out over the weekend, that Fernando Tatis Jr. would be the cover athlete for MLB The Show 21, we figured today would be the day it became official. The PlayStation Blog made the announcement this morning, confirming the game would be coming to PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox One and Xbox Series X|S on April 20.

The current gen Standard Edition (PlayStation 4, Xbox One) will cost $59.99, while the next gen Standard Edition (PlayStation 5, Xbox Series X|S) will cost $69.99. Noted in the blog, there will be no standard edition upgrade path from current gen to next gen.

If you are interested in having access to the game on both current and next gen platforms, please wait for more info about the collector’s edition.

More information on the Collector’s Edition is scheduled to arrive on February 3, including details on the Digital Deluxe Edition.

With cross-platform play, users can play against each other online from multiple console platforms. You can also earn and use content, on whichever platform and generation you choose, with cross progression.

The team will be broadcasting 6 feature premieres on their TwitchYouTube and Facebook Live accounts, with the first one coming in March.

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  1. TheDarkKnightRises
    Hopefully we get the option of using a universal DH or I’ll just wait for Show 22 as much as that would suck waiting.
    Tatis was the best choice for the cover.

    Permanent DH has always been an option.
    eric7064
    Permanent DH has always been an option.

    Not for us exhibition mode players! 😕
    Franchise mode it’s available.
    The funny thing is games like MVP 2005 had the option for a universal DH in exhibition mode 16 years ago. Hopefully this is the year Sony adds it.
    No idea how they get away with charging the same price in dollars that they charge in pounds. It's not as if it's a great seller over here in Britain, we are ineligible for all the competitions and giveaways and usually get the game 12 hours later, charging us the equivalent of $80+ for the standard version seems like taking liberties. Especially as nowhere over here even stocks it so you can't even shop around, you are stuck with the ripoff price of digital download.
    I noticed Tatis doesnt have Adidas logo on batting gloves... I cant remember do they always remove sponsor logos on the cover? Otherwise I hope that doesnt mean they lost sponsorship.
    The Kid 24
    ****... April date is confirmed, that really sucks.
    Gonna be weird not having the game when the actual season starts.

    Well there is a proposal from MLB to the union that they are considering. The season would start a month later near the end of April so if they do accept it that won’t be the case. In it is also a 154 game season, expanded playoffs, universal DH.
    The Kid 24
    ****... April date is confirmed, that really sucks.
    Gonna be weird not having the game when the actual season starts.

    Honestly, I'm more happy that there isn't a longer delay for next gen. I was fully expecting May release for next gen PS5, and I wasn't even expecting Xbox releases at all this year.
    We'll see how the game looks on next gen consoles, but I must say I'm pleasantly surprised already.
    Now if next gen is essentially a cut and paste from PS4, then I take back some excitement for sure, so let's see what SDS has been up to.
    Just to make sure everyone sees this.....
    Please note: There will be no standard edition upgrade path from current gen to next gen. If you are interested in having access to the game on both current and next gen platforms, please wait for more info about the collector’s edition.
    polyduster
    For anyone who uses the Year to Year saves feature.....Not good news
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    Silver lining maybe.... improvements to franchise mode that make year to year saves not compatible????
    NYJin2011tm
    Well there is a proposal from MLB to the union that they are considering. The season would start a month later near the end of April so if they do accept it that won’t be the case. In it is also a 154 game season, expanded playoffs, universal DH.

    MLBPA is rejecting that.
    BigOscar
    Also, if the next gen version is $10/£10 more, does that mean you can't get free upgrade from this gen to next gen, like most games?

    Article stated free next gen upgrade for Collector's Edition only.... presumably the J-Rob edition that was leaked yesterday.
    dbekoscke
    Silver lining maybe.... improvements to franchise mode that make year to year saves not compatible????
    That is a great point. Fingers crossed!
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
    NYJin2011tm
    Well there is a proposal from MLB to the union that they are considering. The season would start a month later near the end of April so if they do accept it that won’t be the case. In it is also a 154 game season, expanded playoffs, universal DH.
    I really hope the universal DH goes away. Cheapens the sport and takes away a lot of strategy imo. Also the 3 batter minimum. Get rid of them.
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
    Couple potentially promising things on the feature list
    -Enjoy updates to Franchise and March to October modes which empower you to better make decisions for the future of your club.
    - Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.
    XtremeDunkz
    I really hope the universal DH goes away. Cheapens the sport and takes away a lot of strategy imo. Also the 3 batter minimum. Get rid of them.
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    lol It is not going away. Everyone wants it. You may not get it this year because the MLB is trying to get the players to concede to something to add the DH when the player know the MLB wants the DH as bad as they do. It will DEF be bargained into the next agreement.
    XtremeDunkz
    I really hope the universal DH goes away. Cheapens the sport and takes away a lot of strategy imo. Also the 3 batter minimum. Get rid of them.
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

    It’s never going away. It’s a 100% lock that it will be added full time in the new CBA in 2022.
    dbekoscke
    Article stated free next gen upgrade for Collector's Edition only.... presumably the J-Rob edition that was leaked yesterday.

    Not crazy about that at all tbh, charging extra for a standard feature, but I guess we'll have to see what else it entails (probably a hat and some DD packs, but you never know)
    lemarflacco
    Couple potentially promising things on the feature list
    -Enjoy updates to Franchise and March to October modes which empower you to better make decisions for the future of your club.
    - Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.

    The other features mentioned on the Best Buy preorder page:
    Description
    OWN THE SHOW Experience faster, deeper and more intense moment-tomoment match action on the field, with a variety of game modes for all you rookie players and returning seasoned vets.
    Lead your Ballplayer to Road to the Show and Diamond Dynasty glory as a two-way star.
    Enjoy revamped Franchise and March to October modes, empowers you to better make decisions for the future of your club and includes new easy onboarding and tools.
    Face your friends on PS4™ or PS5™ with cross-platform play*. Play as all new legends
    New Features:
    For the first time take your Ball Player from Road to the Show and use him in other game modes. Now your Ball Player can be a 2-way star!
    Enjoy updates to Franchise and March to October modes which empower you to better make decisions for the future of your club.
    In Diamond Dynasty we have streamlined programs to provide you clearer goals and more rewards based on how you play the game.
    New to MLB The Show this year is gameplay styles along-side new gameplay onboarding tutorials to help new users learn the game.
    Casual: An easier, fun, pick-up and play experience with an emphasis on learning the game.
    Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.
    Competitive: User stick skills reign supreme. Our online H2H default
    polyduster
    For anyone who uses the Year to Year saves feature.....Not good news
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

    ****, doesnt that matter for Full Minors roster?????
    XtremeDunkz
    I really hope the universal DH goes away. Cheapens the sport and takes away a lot of strategy imo. Also the 3 batter minimum. Get rid of them.
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

    I’m with you on the DH. I prefer non DH in NL but I know it’s just a matter of time before it does.
    Whelp, everyone that will be angry with a buggy game should stay far away at launch. Adding 3 platforms in a covid year is not going to end in a polished product.
    Personally I don't mind the April 20 release. I skipped the last gen but was able to get a PS5 in early January and snagged The Show 20 for $10 while it was on sale, so getting an extra month to play that game will definitely make that worth while!
    The feature list is definitely intriguing. Implementing the haptic feedback features Dual Sense controller is definitely something I'm looking forward to. I've enjoyed how Madden and Astro's World implemented the controller (obviously Astro's World was designed to show off those features). PS Store preorder page lists a "Revamped Franchise and MTO modes"....I have my doubts as to how "revamped" franchise mode will actually be but at least they are paying attention to Franchise. First feature premiere can't come soon enough!
    No Y2Y carryover saves is a gut punch out of the gate.
    I always thought there would be a year (assumed jump to next gen) when carryover saves would be suspended so they could rewrite old code in franchise mode, but damn does it sting.
    Looking forward to hearing more
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    countryboy
    No Y2Y carryover saves is a gut punch out of the gate.
    I always thought there would be a year (assumed jump to next gen) when carryover saves would be suspended so they could rewrite old code in franchise mode, but damn does it sting.
    Looking forward to hearing more
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    Time to retire your Cardinals franchise sir?
    Sent from my skull organ using Operation Sports mobile app
    polyduster
    For anyone who uses the Year to Year saves feature.....Not good news
    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

    That sucks, but as someone who is going to be moving to Xbox this year, I wasn't expecting to be able to use that feature anyway this year.
    countryboy
    No Y2Y carryover saves is a gut punch out of the gate.
    I always thought there would be a year (assumed jump to next gen) when carryover saves would be suspended so they could rewrite old code in franchise mode, but damn does it sting.
    Looking forward to hearing more

    Yes, it does. I actually thought of you when I first read it. We knew this would happen at some stage. It was just a matter of when. Hopefully, it is a good update and worth the sacrifice.
    The good news is that MLB 20 is playable (and apparently, quite spectacularly) on the PS5...we'll always have that version for our existing franchises. It would have stun a lot more if the overhaul had happened in a way that would not allow us to take advantage of the new system's power.
    JoshC1977
    The good news is that MLB 20 is playable (and apparently, quite spectacularly) on the PS5...

    Yeah, I just got a PS5 on Friday and played some MLB 20 over the weekend. As someone who only ever owned a launch model PS4 and not the Pro, gotta say, that game looks and runs real nice on a PS5.
    dbekoscke
    Silver lining maybe.... improvements to franchise mode that make year to year saves not compatible????

    I would hope so, it would be hard to see myself buying the game if there aren’t major improvements to franchise AND I have to ditch my carryover save. I can do one but not both
    Well no carry over saves could pretty much end the Fictional Roster from Bacon. He would have to start from scratch every year. Unless there is something they have not revealed yet.
    This is enough right here to kill this Franchise for me.
    dbekoscke
    Time to retire your Cardinals franchise sir?
    Sent from my skull organ using Operation Sports mobile app

    Honestly I don't know. I am so heavily invested in this franchise, that honestly I have no desire to start from scratch, even with the offseason moves the Cardinals have made.
    JoshC1977
    Yes, it does. I actually thought of you when I first read it. We knew this would happen at some stage. It was just a matter of when. Hopefully, it is a good update and worth the sacrifice.
    The good news is that MLB 20 is playable (and apparently, quite spectacularly) on the PS5...we'll always have that version for our existing franchises. It would have stun a lot more if the overhaul had happened in a way that would not allow us to take advantage of the new system's power.

    Agreed, just I don't know that I have the time to dedicate to two franchises, nor do I really want to.
    I have exhausted hours into my carryover that has involved not only playing games, but roster editing, adding in top prospects, to now mixing in players of yesteryear, all the while watching as teams rise and fall just like they do in real life.
    I'm going to be honest, this is a setback that while I knew was possible, and expected, makes me really interested to see what the franchise changes are, and if they will be worth the price of not only upgrading, but putting to bed a franchise I have been so dedicated to.
    SDS could have had to disable the Y2Y carry over for this initial release due to a "revamped franchise". SDS even mentions that they know how important this Y2Y feature is to the community, so maybe they are reworking it alongside the revamped franchise still, but don't want to get everyone's hopes up by fully promising it out of the gate.
    dbekoscke
    SDS could have had to disable the Y2Y carry over for this initial release due to a "revamped franchise". SDS even mentions that they know how important this Y2Y feature is to the community, so maybe they are reworking it alongside the revamped franchise still, but don't want to get everyone's hopes up by fully promising it out of the gate.

    Like I said a few posts ago, this, to me at least, was expected due to franchise mode being written on old code and the reasoning for them not adding things the community wanted was because things needed to be re-written/started from scratch.
    My guess, and its only that, is that you won't be able to carryover from '20 to '21, but from '21 going forward, carryover saves will resume.
    They needed a point to suspend it to work on franchise mode and this is as good of a time as any.
    As much as it sucks that the game doesn't come out until April 20th, at least that gives me and I'm sure others time to get a PS5 or XBOX too. It's nice that it's coming to XBOX and I'm happy for all of them and the fact the Devs should make more money to hopefully put resources into the game. I do feel like I'd be cheating on the game if I played on XBOX ha.
    My suspicion would be that it's more to do with the change to next gen, rather than some radical franchise improvement. You can't carry your save over to next gen, you can't carry it over to either Xbox, so it would mean carry over only for PS4, so one out of the 4 platforms it's being released on. So cutting it instead of putting in work that would only apply to a fraction of their sales.
    BigOscar
    My suspicion would be that it's more to do with the change to next gen, rather than some radical franchise improvement. You can't carry your save over to next gen, you can't carry it over to either Xbox, so it would mean carry over only for PS4, so one out of the 4 platforms it's being released on. So cutting it instead of putting in work that would only apply to a fraction of their sales.

    You could carryover from PS3 to PS4, so if it was only due to them not wanting to put in work to make it feasible from PS4 to PS5 then I would be extremely surprised.
    As for Xbox, the game has never been on Xbox so I'm not sure what you would carryover and I wouldn't expect the team to research how to transfer a save from Playstation hardware to Xbox hardware.
    It's been mentioned a few times by the devs that the reason certain things can't be added to franchise was due to them using "legacy" code was the term I believe they used. And the understanding from myself, and I'm guessing others, is that at some point to get in community requests they would have to re-write that legacy code which in turn meant a distinct possibility that carryover saves wouldn't work for that one year.
    I too have a save that started in 14 and continue in each version. My plan was playing every game including ST(I use dynamic to set my level for Reg Season). I got to 17 doing that but my dynamic got messed up plus I just wasn’t feeling the hitting and relievers seemed to get tired too fast and/or not recover fast enough. I was way ahead in the standings anyway so I started using quick/manage to finish out the season. I have a Superstar 2B that I drafted so I’m quite invested in him.
    I just started 18 playing ST and prob going to play first game of each series then quick manage to catch up quicker until I reach current day. If I can’t carry to 21 I will just keep going with 20. I’ll prob get 21 when on sale or price comes down. I’ve been mostly doing that anyway. 20 was first one I bought day one in quite awhile. I do like the March to October mode so I will start a new one if that then continue after using the play one then quick manage way.
    Unless continue saves starts again on 21 and beyond I’ll play every game day to day again.
    countryboy
    No Y2Y carryover saves is a gut punch out of the gate.
    I always thought there would be a year (assumed jump to next gen) when carryover saves would be suspended so they could rewrite old code in franchise mode, but damn does it sting.
    Looking forward to hearing more
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports

    I'm thankful that it happens to coincide with my Cubbies entering a rebuild phase so I might be able to enjoy using them in Franchise, but man, I had kept my Twins franchise going for like 7 years now (thanks in part to you btw...not sure if you remember but you shipped me a copy of the game so that I could carry my saves over one year when I hadn't bought it).
    Looks like they are going to make three different playstyles.
    Casual
    Simulation
    And stick jockey
    Can bring rtts to other modes.
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    Bullit
    Well no carry over saves could pretty much end the Fictional Roster from Bacon. He would have to start from scratch every year. Unless there is something they have not revealed yet.
    This is enough right here to kill this Franchise for me.

    No carry over ROSTER file, or just FRANCHISE? Or both?
    Yeah...THAT Guy
    I'm thankful that it happens to coincide with my Cubbies entering a rebuild phase so I might be able to enjoy using them in Franchise, but man, I had kept my Twins franchise going for like 7 years now (thanks in part to you btw...not sure if you remember but you shipped me a copy of the game so that I could carry my saves over one year when I hadn't bought it).

    I remember man. :cheers:
    Always glad to help out when/where I can.
    JoshC1977
    Yes, it does. I actually thought of you when I first read it. We knew this would happen at some stage. It was just a matter of when. Hopefully, it is a good update and worth the sacrifice.
    The good news is that MLB 20 is playable (and apparently, quite spectacularly) on the PS5...we'll always have that version for our existing franchises. It would have stun a lot more if the overhaul had happened in a way that would not allow us to take advantage of the new system's power.

    I had no plans of going next gen for at least year....probably longer. This just sealed it for me that I do not have need to purchase MLB 21 for the PS4.
    And depending on how this all shakes out......MLB 20 may very well end up being my game on the PS5 whenever I come around to going next gen.
    I am not feeling great about 3 different modes of play ala Madden (Simulation, Arcade, Competitive) I think it stinks on Madden and is poorly executed and a mess.
    I am not optimistic.
    Times are a changing for The Show. And not in ways I wanted to hear.
    The PS3 and 4 glory years are looking more and more like exactly that.
    Why am I so pessimistic? Because I am an old school sports gamer and the core base of The Show was always built on a simulation core and now....I am seeing the game going down the “we need to make it more accessible big time since we are cross platform now”. That usually does not bode well for those of us who love the degree of difficulty the game has and how close it resembles the grind of playing 162 games. This is going towards instant gratification players, online competitive and the like.
    This is marking the end of an era for this franchise.
    MLB 20 and all my carryovers are my priority. Too many incredible rosters to just give up like that.
    Am I speculating? Yeah I am. Could this revamped franchise be awesome? Yeah. But I am simply pessimistic it was not made into what people really want in these parts (Operation Sports).
    Hope I am proven wrong.
    countryboy
    I remember man. :cheers:
    Always glad to help out when/where I can.

    It was very appreciated! Those carryover saves made me more invested in my Twins franchise than I've probably ever been in any other game. I'm gonna be in the same position as you; trying to decide if I really want to start over or not.
    Yep Country!... there’s too much hand holding in today’s games. Not just this game but others too. Plus I hate all those stubs and packs thing every time I start the game. I don’t care about any of that. I hate what online has done to games.
    countryboy
    Like I said a few posts ago, this, to me at least, was expected due to franchise mode being written on old code and the reasoning for them not adding things the community wanted was because things needed to be re-written/started from scratch.
    My guess, and its only that, is that you won't be able to carryover from '20 to '21, but from '21 going forward, carryover saves will resume.
    They needed a point to suspend it to work on franchise mode and this is as good of a time as any.

    I am far more concerned with gameplay moving forward.
    For a lot of reasons. I am not hyped at all reading the notes on that blog. Not at all. Sounds like we are players of the past. This is all gearing up for online competitive etc etc etc. It is incredibly difficult to code a game for three different modes (ask Madden how that has gone).
    Really...might be the end of an era for me and this series.
    And that is ok. MLB 20 does everything I want. I have a 5 year Yankee chise going that I like you have played every single pitch, inning and game. I am so invested in it. I have so much joy from it.
    I got it all with MLB 20. And it plays amazing on the PS5 from everything I heard. So it’s all good.
    MLB '20 runs way better on PS5 than it does on PS4 Pro, it's really not even close. So for anyone that's getting a PS5 and on the fence about '21 given today's news, if you're a fan of '20, it runs amazing on PS5. So like A&S alluded to, I could see people like that being perfectly content with getting a PS5 and just rolling with '20.
    Having said that, I'm definitely getting this on Series X and I can't wait. Though I'm a big PlayStation fan, my love for Xbox was so strong during the OG Xbox and 360 days. I chose not to get an Xbox One solely based on the Show being PS4 exclusive. So for a big Xbox fan like myself, I'm so freakin pumped to have an option to play a baseball game on Xbox again. The Series X is amazing hardware, as the PS5 is. Once MS studios finally start pumping out games, it's going to be amazing. And now add to that...the Show is coming to Xbox! So awesome.
    IHateDuke32
    MLB '20 runs way better on PS5 than it does on PS4 Pro, it's really not even close. So for anyone that's getting a PS5 and on the fence about '21 given today's news, if you're a fan of '20, it runs amazing on PS5. So like A&S alluded to, I could see people like that being perfectly content with getting a PS5 and just rolling with '20.
    Having said that, I'm definitely getting this on Series X and I can't wait. Though I'm a big PlayStation fan, my love for Xbox was so strong during the OG Xbox and 360 days. I chose not to get an Xbox One solely based on the Show being PS4 exclusive. So for a big Xbox fan like myself, I'm so freakin pumped to have an option to play a baseball game on Xbox again. The Series X is amazing hardware, as the PS5 is. Once MS studios finally start pumping out games, it's going to be amazing. And now add to that...the Show is coming to Xbox! So awesome.
    Thats what I'm thinking for the spring/summer for me. Get a PS5 and keep rolling with the show 20 carry over franchise.
    Sent from my thoughts
    Armor and Sword
    I am far more concerned with gameplay moving forward.
    For a lot of reasons. I am not hyped at all reading the notes on that blog. Not at all. Sounds like we are players of the past. This is all gearing up for online competitive etc etc etc. It is incredibly difficult to code a game for three different modes (ask Madden how that has gone).
    Really...might be the end of an era for me and this series.
    And that is ok. MLB 20 does everything I want. I have a 5 year Yankee chise going that I like you have played every single pitch, inning and game. I am so invested in it. I have so much joy from it.
    I got it all with MLB 20. And it plays amazing on the PS5 from everything I heard. So it’s all good.

    As far as these new play styles go...I'll say this, I have WAY more faith that SDS can pull it off well than EA did on Madden. They already have separate tuning for online modes in DD. With baseball games being far less dependent on coherent AI than other sports games; I think there is a greater ability to pull this off. Heck...I could probably put together slider sets on 20 to mimic these types of play styles; it's all about minimizing "randomness" for competitive...and that wouldn't be all that hard to do.
    Nonetheless, I'm glad to see SDS taking a proactive approach. As they pull in the more online-centric XBox crowd (yes, I am generalizing), this was going to be a necessity. My biggest fear was that they were going to begin making concessions to keep the online guys happy (and concessions make no one happy). In theory, separate gameplay styles SHOULD keep this from being an issue.
    Obviously, execution will be key....
    KnightTemplar
    No carry over ROSTER file, or just FRANCHISE? Or both?

    This is a REALLY important question. I think Franchise/RTTS saves are nearly a foregone conclusion. But losing the ability to import rosters would be a MASSIVE blow. At the very least, I'm hoping SDS can do some stuff in the vault from a roster perspective....like they do typically for logos and so on.
    countryboy
    You could carryover from PS3 to PS4, so if it was only due to them not wanting to put in work to make it feasible from PS4 to PS5 then I would be extremely surprised.
    As for Xbox, the game has never been on Xbox so I'm not sure what you would carryover and I wouldn't expect the team to research how to transfer a save from Playstation hardware to Xbox hardware.
    It's been mentioned a few times by the devs that the reason certain things can't be added to franchise was due to them using "legacy" code was the term I believe they used. And the understanding from myself, and I'm guessing others, is that at some point to get in community requests they would have to re-write that legacy code which in turn meant a distinct possibility that carryover saves wouldn't work for that one year.

    I'm all for being optimistic, despite SDS not really giving franchise players any reason to be lately, but the idea that they've completely revamped franchise mode in the same year they've had to make the leap to 3 new platforms and deal with COVID, seems like a step too far tbh.
    Hopefully I'm wrong, but this really doesn't seem like the year they'd spend huge amounts of time renovating a mode they don't particularly care about. The move to Xbox is about getting more DD micro-transaction money, so I would be surprised if that wasn't there number 1 priority.
    JoshC1977

    This is a REALLY important question. I think Franchise/RTTS saves are nearly a foregone conclusion. But losing the ability to import rosters would be a MASSIVE blow. At the very least, I'm hoping SDS can do some stuff in the vault from a roster perspective....like they do typically for logos and so on.

    The PS5 allows to import the 20 roster (if you are playing 20 on the PS5), correct? I’ve invested a huge amount of time keeping a roster updated, importing great CAPS to use off the vault, etc. Was anticipating using this in ‘21, but if that’s not possible I can just load it into the PS5 and continue to use ‘20. Correct?
    KnightTemplar
    The PS5 allows to import the 20 roster (if you are playing 20 on the PS5), correct? I’ve invested a huge amount of time keeping a roster updated, importing great CAPS to use off the vault, etc. Was anticipating using this in ‘21, but if that’s not possible I can just load it into the PS5 and continue to use ‘20. Correct?

    Yes all works as it does on the PS4 with playing 20 on the PS5.
    dbekoscke
    The other features mentioned on the Best Buy preorder page:
    Description
    OWN THE SHOW Experience faster, deeper and more intense moment-tomoment match action on the field, with a variety of game modes for all you rookie players and returning seasoned vets.
    Lead your Ballplayer to Road to the Show and Diamond Dynasty glory as a two-way star.
    Enjoy revamped Franchise and March to October modes, empowers you to better make decisions for the future of your club and includes new easy onboarding and tools.
    Face your friends on PS4™ or PS5™ with cross-platform play*. Play as all new legends
    New Features:
    For the first time take your Ball Player from Road to the Show and use him in other game modes. Now your Ball Player can be a 2-way star!
    Enjoy updates to Franchise and March to October modes which empower you to better make decisions for the future of your club.
    In Diamond Dynasty we have streamlined programs to provide you clearer goals and more rewards based on how you play the game.
    New to MLB The Show this year is gameplay styles along-side new gameplay onboarding tutorials to help new users learn the game.
    Casual: An easier, fun, pick-up and play experience with an emphasis on learning the game.
    Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.
    Competitive: User stick skills reign supreme. Our online H2H default

    Sounds like RTTS got some major love this year.
    Speedy
    Sounds like RTTS got some major love this year.

    I'd guess importing your Rtts player is replacing the CAP in DD. Can't see what other modes you could really import them into? Presumably linking Rtts to DD would open up more microtransaction potential and offering DD rewards for playing Rtts, like they did with MtO
    BigOscar
    I'm all for being optimistic, despite SDS not really giving franchise players any reason to be lately, but the idea that they've completely revamped franchise mode in the same year they've had to make the leap to 3 new platforms and deal with COVID, seems like a step too far tbh.

    If they came out and said that they created a "revamped" mode and it's not all that different; it would be a massively idiotic move (and horrible look) for the studio. I definitely expect it to be "Different"....
    Here's where I sit on the fence. "Revamped" does not mean "better" and that's going to be in the eyes of the beholder. Frankly, I read the "wish lists" here every year and roll my eyes and laugh at 99.9% of the "asks" by the OS community (folks that are supposedly "die hard franchise guys"). It's going to come down, as always, to whether the mode (and game in general) meets your own personal needs.
    At this juncture, I'm neither positive nor negative about 21. I'm just waiting to see what's going on here. I'm just thankful that the franchise experience on 20 is so amazing (to me)....I'll always have that to fall back on.
    lemarflacco
    lol It is not going away. Everyone wants it. You may not get it this year because the MLB is trying to get the players to concede to something to add the DH when the player know the MLB wants the DH as bad as they do. It will DEF be bargained into the next agreement.
    Oh I'm sure it will.. just another sport removing strategy from the game to inflate offense for the casual fan. It's terrible. But it is what it is.
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    Casual/simulation/Stick jockey sounds more like a rebranding of the different hitting/pitching controls than a genuine new thing to me. Simulation being directional/meter, stick jockey being zone/analogue. More just a way of categorizing control methods for online competitive play as opposed to a new way to play the game?
    I dont mind the April release date. I like it that it'll start along w/ the real season.
    I will get it for xbox one. I no longer need to upgrade to PS4/XBX now unless next gen blows everyone away for MLB 21.
    BigOscar
    Presumably linking Rtts to DD would open up more microtransaction potential and offering DD rewards for playing Rtts, like they did with MtO

    I didn't think of this but I'm not surprised, as cynical as that sounds.
    So for the PS4 version - are they saying all the fictional rosters/created players that carried over on PS4 won't carry over for 21? Or just won't carry over on PS5?
    BigOscar
    I'm all for being optimistic, despite SDS not really giving franchise players any reason to be lately, but the idea that they've completely revamped franchise mode in the same year they've had to make the leap to 3 new platforms and deal with COVID, seems like a step too far tbh.
    Hopefully I'm wrong, but this really doesn't seem like the year they'd spend huge amounts of time renovating a mode they don't particularly care about. The move to Xbox is about getting more DD micro-transaction money, so I would be surprised if that wasn't there number 1 priority.

    I never said revamped, just rewriting old code to add in things the community has wanted. And maybe all those things don’t happen this year but they have to start with rewriting the code to be able to move forward.
    I’m not sitting here believing that everything the community wants is happening in ‘21 but I believe it’s the start and if suspending carryover saves for a year is needed then I’m all for it despite my personal thoughts of it being a bummer
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    I've been wanting to retire my Braves franchise for awhile now, but it still bites that carry-over is going away, even if but only for a year. I just couldn't bear to bury my franchise anymore than I could have been able to put Old Yeller down. but I can still acknowledge it needed to happen. one good thing is we learned before release, unlike several years ago when the Studio killed Season Mode and we didn't hear boo till after it was already been sold
    SHORTER SEASONS MAYBE COMING. Last summer people were asking if they could make an update for the covid season to have less games in franchise and they said they couldn't because it would ruin Y2Y saves. There's a good chance were finally getting something similar to custom season lengths in franchise
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    On the Xbox Store it says crossplatform gameplay so on xbox you can play against ps4 and ps5 players, hope this also means crossplatform roster, player and logo sharing. Since ai dont have a PS5 yet I plan on getting it on the Xbox Series X this year so that would be awesome
    Armor and Sword
    I had no plans of going next gen for at least year....probably longer. This just sealed it for me that I do not have need to purchase MLB 21 for the PS4.
    And depending on how this all shakes out......MLB 20 may very well end up being my game on the PS5 whenever I come around to going next gen.
    I am not feeling great about 3 different modes of play ala Madden (Simulation, Arcade, Competitive) I think it stinks on Madden and is poorly executed and a mess.
    I am not optimistic.
    Times are a changing for The Show. And not in ways I wanted to hear.
    The PS3 and 4 glory years are looking more and more like exactly that.
    Why am I so pessimistic? Because I am an old school sports gamer and the core base of The Show was always built on a simulation core and now....I am seeing the game going down the “we need to make it more accessible big time since we are cross platform now”. That usually does not bode well for those of us who love the degree of difficulty the game has and how close it resembles the grind of playing 162 games. This is going towards instant gratification players, online competitive and the like.
    This is marking the end of an era for this franchise.
    MLB 20 and all my carryovers are my priority. Too many incredible rosters to just give up like that.
    Am I speculating? Yeah I am. Could this revamped franchise be awesome? Yeah. But I am simply pessimistic it was not made into what people really want in these parts (Operation Sports).
    Hope I am proven wrong.

    Appreciate all your slider work but bro you have got to relax. Lol the sky is always falling for you
    We’ve literally gotten like a couple paragraphs of generic details of the game and you declare it “dead on arrival” already lmao
    BigOscar
    Casual/simulation/Stick jockey sounds more like a rebranding of the different hitting/pitching controls than a genuine new thing to me. Simulation being directional/meter, stick jockey being zone/analogue. More just a way of categorizing control methods for online competitive play as opposed to a new way to play the game?
    I actually see it as what matters for input.
    Simulation is highly favoring ratings and sim engine.
    Stick jockey for the h2h crowd that wants a perfect contact to be hit everytime.
    Casual as a very simplistic pick up and go. Mostly automated.
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    lemarflacco
    Appreciate all your slider work but bro you have got to relax. Lol the sky is always falling for you
    We’ve literally gotten like a couple paragraphs of generic details of the game and you declare it “dead on arrival” already lmao

    It’s a forum. It’s his opinion. Relax.
    Endorphinrush3000
    SHORTER SEASONS MAYBE COMING. Last summer people were asking if they could make an update for the covid season to have less games in franchise and they said they couldn't because it would ruin Y2Y saves. There's a good chance were finally getting something similar to custom season lengths in franchise
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    i really hope so. i didnt like they took the option to change season length after 2017. hope they bring back the season mode too.
    lemarflacco
    Appreciate all your slider work but bro you have got to relax. Lol the sky is always falling for you
    We’ve literally gotten like a couple paragraphs of generic details of the game and you declare it “dead on arrival” already lmao

    First off, it is my opinion. This is a forum where we state opinions.
    Secondly....yeah 21 on the PS4 is DOA for me. Why? I want to keep playing my now 5 year Yankees franchise which I have poured over 1000 hours of playing time into and every minute has been joy.
    I can’t move that file to 21 even on the PS4
    So yeah dead on arrival.
    Sky is not falling. But in my opinion and based on the absolute undeniable trend of console sports games becoming focused heavily on micro transactions (card modes). I have a highly pessimistic view about the direction of the franchise for the first time ever.
    And I am clearly one of the most optimistic members on this forum. I do not know where your getting “the sky is always falling with you”.
    In fact I champion getting the most out your sports games despite all the venom on this forum about so called “sim” play.
    But the original point for me is we all have opinions. In my opinion The Show 21 is an easy hard pass knowing I can’t continue my franchise which is more important to me than a new roster, easier more accessible modes, and a revamped franchise mode.
    Franchise mode gets so much flack here and quite frankly it has been great for me and a lot of other Show diehards.
    I really hope 21 is great. I said in my post I hope I am wrong.
    The sky is not falling. But I simply may be moving on if the series goes backwards.
    And there is a decent shot it could considering the move to a new system, cross platform and this awful pandemic we have been in.
    Hopefully in a couple of cycles I can resume buying this on a yearly basis.
    Yeah my opinion. I am not optimistic about this years game based on the “circumstances” we are currently dealing with.
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    lemarflacco
    Appreciate all your slider work but bro you have got to relax. Lol the sky is always falling for you
    We’ve literally gotten like a couple paragraphs of generic details of the game and you declare it “dead on arrival” already lmao

    some of the highest praise for the Show has come from A&S. you know your doing it right when you're Chicken Little to one crowd and a fanboy to another. but you're absolutely dead on about the slider work. I'm going to miss it very much for 21. maybe it's time the OS family procured him a copy just for him to tinker with sliders for us while his main squeeze remains 20.
    just a thought, my opinion and 2 pesos
    Caulfield
    some of the highest praise for the Show has come from A&S. you know your doing it right when you're Chicken Little to one crowd and a fanboy to another. but you're absolutely dead on about the slider work. I'm going to miss it very much for 21. maybe it's time the OS family procured him a copy just for him to tinker with sliders for us while his main squeeze remains 20.
    just a thought, my opinion and 2 pesos

    So, you’re willing to fork over TWO pesos? Grifter.
    Losing carry over saves for next year sucks. But it gives SDS two dev cycles to upgrade franchise mode. If the Show 22 is released with many of the features we have been begging for for years and carry over saves it will all be worth it.
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    I'm willing to bet the franchise carryover saves being lost are more the result of cross platform compatibility.
    When they invested in y2y we were told it took all resources and a complete year of programming.
    With starting new with Xbox and ps5 it probably was too difficult and time consuming.
    I am all for year to year saves as long as we do not ever lose innovation. If progress stops, which for whatever reason it did on franchise mode, then I am OK losing it. I feel for the people that invest so much time carrying over. Same thing happened to season mode and online crowd.
    I get bored after 2 seasons because all the flaws in the management engine and I lose interest. I'm hoping some legacy bugs are fixed.
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    The Kid 24
    ****, doesnt that matter for Full Minors roster?????
    So then what's that mean for all the people who import export their caps? Everyone has to start all over?
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    Can't believe it took me til now to read the blog, but I'm excited for Wednesday (Feb 3rd) to read about the collector edition.
    Really really really really hoping its the Jackie Robinson version thats been floating around the internet.
    There were only 3 games I was considering buying in 2021. One got delayed till next year, one I already bought, then I was debating on MLB 21.
    I am not moving on to the PS5 until probably fall or winter 2021 at the earliest.
    The news of there being no carry over for a year and being invested in my Indians franchise made this an easy decision for me to pass on 21. When I eventually get a PS5 I will just move MLB 20 to that.
    I agree with others here that revamped is not necessarily better. I envision some growing pains in the game this year and this will be the first non day 1 or preorder for me since MLB12. I do almost wonder if revamped means less depth to appeal to a bigger audience though.
    I have always been positive about this game and knew that one day we would not be able to carry over our saves but it is still a sad day for me.
    The features blurb does nothing for me.
    It was a fun run for me but MLB20 is the long term answer for me at this point.
    Obviously too soon to have any real opinion and hoping for a great game, but my first reaction is that this may not be what I was hoping for.
    I really like how MLB 20 looks and performs on PS5. I think it a really good game. I was personally hoping for MLB21 to be a leap to show off the PS5 next gen system and don't think we will be getting that.
    The info says PS4 users can play against PS5 users. To me, this means the games are the same.
    With the next gen NBA 2k, next Gen Madden, Next Gen Fifa.....you can't play against PS4 players. Those games are different. Being able to play against PS4 users leads me to believe there isn't a true next gen version pf MLB21. My guess is it will look better (similar to how PC gamers with high specs can enable better graphical options) but it will be same game.
    Maybe I'm wrong as I'm by no means some tech guru but this is now what I'm expecting. Basically expecting similar graphics to MLB20 with maybe some enhanced grass or dirt effects.
    Also concerned with the new gameplay modes but as long as almost our existing options remain I'll be content as it is a solid playing title currently.
    Guess we will see. Just don't have that same level excitement I did when the next gen Madden and Next gen 2k were being promoted.
    I would suspect because of cross platform that would mean no new animations for next gen. Even though the tech would allow for improvement. Kind of disappointing, but I expected the shallow, graphical "improvements" for 21. Hoping 22 actually tries to look next gen.
    I can understand being upset about carry over saves but I dont know how some can be writing off the game from that little bit of info.
    The only concrete decision I can make from that info is that it will be a longer wait than I hoped and I can feel more comfortable continuing to invest more time in The Show 20 for now.
    This could very well be the end for us old gamers but I want to see more than this before I form any real opinion.
    lemarflacco
    Couple potentially promising things on the feature list
    -Enjoy updates to Franchise and March to October modes which empower you to better make decisions for the future of your club.
    - Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.

    Not to be funny but don't they pretty much say this every year? :) lol
    CujoMatty
    I can understand being upset about carry over saves but I dont know how some can be writing off the game from that little bit of info.
    The only concrete decision I can make from that info is that it will be a longer wait than I hoped and I can feel more comfortable continuing to invest more time in The Show 20 for now.
    This could very well be the end for us old gamers but I want to see more than this before I form any real opinion.

    ya i understand their concern but it's sort of jumping the gun. let's wait to see what other information they tell us in this month.
    When the game went from ps3 to ps4, were saved rosters/sliders carried over?
    There was a mention of a path for upgrade to next gen for the collector edition.
    I wonder if that will be a digital version as well and if so do you think you could buy a ps4 version and then have ps5 upgrade on another machine. I find myself using my ps4 pro quite a bit upstairs and if the game is cross platform would be nice to have a digital version on ps5 and ps4.
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    BigOscar
    Casual/simulation/Stick jockey sounds more like a rebranding of the different hitting/pitching controls than a genuine new thing to me. Simulation being directional/meter, stick jockey being zone/analogue. More just a way of categorizing control methods for online competitive play as opposed to a new way to play the game?

    It could be...but let's take MLBTS 20 as an example.
    The base slider setup is essentially the "simulation" style. Lots of ratings impact, lots of randomness.
    A "competitive" base might be similar but might reduce the contact/timing (make hitting harder) sliders while decreasing control and increasing the pitch consistency slider (make pitching more dependent on hitting the meter). These four sliders alone would greatly change the game from a "RNG heavy" focus to one significantly biased towards those with good stick skills. They could do other things with respect to throw meter timing and so on. The question mark here is with the number of animations. Do they truncate some of the "pretty" fielding animations for a "competitive" mode to allow for more user fidelity? This could be one potential area where there are "issues" with game style "leakage" across modes.
    A "casual" setup could be something like bumping up power, decreasing errors, making the timing window wider and so on.
    Obviously, we know nothing right now, it's just idle speculation...
    hyacinth1
    ya i understand their concern but it's sort of jumping the gun. let's wait to see what other information they tell us in this month.
    When the game went from ps3 to ps4, were saved rosters/sliders carried over?

    The roster carryover that was in 20 wasn't a thing until 20. In the past you had to start a franchise in the previous game then go into the new game to transfer players over individually.
    There is concern by people me included because the writing is on the wall.
    KnightTemplar
    So, you’re willing to fork over TWO pesos? Grifter.

    isn't that like, $40?
    :y1:
    I haven't bothered having a custom cover made in several years but I'm seriously considering going with another Padre on my cover, if I don't wind up going steelbook version instead: Manny Machado. but in a Baltimore uni, not San Diego
    CujoMatty
    I can understand being upset about carry over saves but I dont know how some can be writing off the game from that little bit of info.
    The only concrete decision I can make from that info is that it will be a longer wait than I hoped and I can feel more comfortable continuing to invest more time in The Show 20 for now.
    This could very well be the end for us old gamers but I want to see more than this before I form any real opinion.

    I can't speak for others but for me I was very much on the fence about even continuing on and the lack of year to year saves made the decision for me. It cemented what I was on the edge about.
    Are we going to be able to have cross gen online franchises? I know in NBA2k21 i cant play online associations with my buddies because I have the Series X, and they do not.
    I'm not sure how to feel, to be honest.
    On the one hand, I'm excited the game is available on Xbox, both the One and Series models. I have a One S in addition to the PS4, and they're in different areas of the house, so will be nice to have the ability to play The Show on the Xbox.
    No carryover saves for the PS4 is a crusher, for sure. I'm entering Year 5 in my Mets franchise started in MLB 18; I've played every pitch of every game in that time. I get that the carryover feature is a luxury and we haven't always had it, but it does sting to realize the option isn't there to move onto the new game with an existing franchise this year.
    The multiple gameplay modes - that does give me a little pause as well, as we've seen this not work well in Madden, especially when it comes to patches and how they are tailored for online gaming/modes, but still affect offline and simulation modes. That said, I did like when NBA 2K had this option and feel that game took a turn for the worse in respect to simulation gameplay when the options were removed.
    Funkycorm

    There is concern by people me included because the writing is on the wall.

    Is it? I mean, many here are jaded...but.....
    The decision may very well have boiled-down to two options:
    1. Do nothing/very little with franchise mode but keep carryovers.
    2. Overhaul franchise but you have to do away with carryovers for a year.
    What if the "new franchise" includes expanded rosters (beyond 90)? The roster size alone may have been enough to necessitate killing-off carryovers for a year - roster expansion will greatly alter every dynamic in the game...carryover saves likely would have been massively "busted". Once that new base is in-place in MLBTS21, it would (in theory) be able to continue in 22 and any franchises from 21 could be moved forward from that point.
    If carryovers are gone to never return, then yes, it's bad. I just don't think this will be the case - I don't see the proverbial "writing on the wall" here. SDS even commented in the blog that they understand the popularity of this feature.
    I'm going to say this though...I think it would strongly behoove SDS to be up front in their pre-launch materials/streams if they intend for carryovers to return for '22. It might be questionable from a business perspective to do this; but if they want to be a customer-driven service, then I think it would be a classy thing to do.
    Looks like we will have to wait until March until they reveal anything about the game. Thank you vey much Coronavirus :(
    And I am not shocked at all that the PS5 version will be $10 more then the PS4 version. But I really hope they are charging $10 more because the PS5 version will be something "EXTRA SPECIAL" and not just because they can.
    Just saying year after year I see so many say MLB The Show looks the same for good reason. But I really hope that trend finally stops with PS5!
    I just really want that tug to the floor feeling when my eyes see MLB The Show 21 PS5 version for the first time :)
    BigOscar
    Casual/simulation/Stick jockey sounds more like a rebranding of the different hitting/pitching controls than a genuine new thing to me. Simulation being directional/meter, stick jockey being zone/analogue. More just a way of categorizing control methods for online competitive play as opposed to a new way to play the game?
    Personally I'd love to see them figure out a way to tweak the zone/analog mechanics to better suit a sim-style. Those mechanics definitely "feel" the most like hitting (I use zone w/ analog input, which is hard but I do enjoy it) and pitching. I think zone hitting is pretty solid in that regard as the PCI changes based on contact and vision ratings, but analog pitching is a bit too easy. I'd like to see smaller "sweet spots" for guys with poor control and/or BB/9, while still being able to have a little control over where the pitch goes (i.e. missing over the plate is your fault as opposed to the computer)
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    I went back and looked at alot of the old covers from the last 10 years and it looks like they always remove logos from the batting gloves, so I think we are safe there.
    The Kid 24
    I noticed Tatis doesnt have Adidas logo on batting gloves... I cant remember do they always remove sponsor logos on the cover? Otherwise I hope that doesnt mean they lost sponsorship.
    I understand why some on here dont like the idea of carry over saves but how many people who play this game really care about that? Probably 1 or 2 percent of the entire user base? so probably not a big priority for SDS. Hopefully they bring it back in 22 to carry over saves from 21.
    I don't think someone should write off 21 just yet based on one snippet of data. Let's wait to see what else they reveal. Maybe some new modes, or some new way they will be doing things different than last gen.
    personally im pretty stoked about 21 and the potential it has to offer. Already it being on Xbox and cross platform seals the deal for me. And the upcoming information will be topping on the cake.
    JoshC1977
    Is it? I mean, many here are jaded...but.....
    The decision may very well have boiled-down to two options:
    1. Do nothing/very little with franchise mode but keep carryovers.
    2. Overhaul franchise but you have to do away with carryovers for a year.
    What if the "new franchise" includes expanded rosters (beyond 90)? The roster size alone may have been enough to necessitate killing-off carryovers for a year - roster expansion will greatly alter every dynamic in the game...carryover saves likely would have been massively "busted". Once that new base is in-place in MLBTS21, it would (in theory) be able to continue in 22 and any franchises from 21 could be moved forward from that point.
    If carryovers are gone to never return, then yes, it's bad. I just don't think this will be the case - I don't see the proverbial "writing on the wall" here. SDS even commented in the blog that they understand the popularity of this feature.
    I'm going to say this though...I think it would strongly behoove SDS to be up front in their pre-launch materials/streams if they intend for carryovers to return for '22. It might be questionable from a business perspective to do this; but if they want to be a customer-driven service, then I think it would be a classy thing to do.

    Agree 100% with Josh in that I don’t see anything written that suggests carryovers are a thing of the past.
    And agree that expanding rosters would essentially bust carryovers because besides the rosters being expanded and logic rewritten, the financial aspect of franchise needs to be rewritten as well to match the roster expansion.
    I truly believe you will see carryovers return and I really think they return in ‘22 to accept ‘21 carryovers
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    hyacinth1
    I understand why some on here dont like the idea of carry over saves but how many people who play this game really care about that? Probably 1 or 2 percent of the entire user base? so probably not a big priority for SDS. Hopefully they bring it back in 22 to carry over saves from 21.
    I don't think someone should write off 21 just yet based on one snippet of data. Let's wait to see what else they reveal. Maybe some new modes, or some new way they will be doing things different than last gen.
    personally im pretty stoked about 21 and the potential it has to offer. Already it being on Xbox and cross platform seals the deal for me. And the upcoming information will be topping on the cake.

    Easy to say if you're not heavily invested in a long-term franchise like many here are. To some folks, this news is almost as bad as them outright removing franchise mode altogether. The entire universe they have spent 100s (if not 1000s) of hours cultivating won't move forward.
    I'm nowhere near that point in terms of duration, but I totally get it. I have zero issue with anyone who says, "Nope...that seals it for me...".
    In terms of numbers, is the audience for carryover franchises huge? No, probably not. BUT...it also sounds like RTTS may also be impacted by this...and that is a MASSIVE audience (as it has been said repeatedly that it is the most popular mode in the game).
    For my personal purposes, I want to understand what they did, why they did it and proceed from there.
    If the improvements are clearly evident in franchise mode and the gameplay is the same stellar simulation I have come to adore then MLB 22 on the PS5 will be awesome.
    Bringing back carry over saves though is something I do not think is some magical switch they will flip. It may never come back. Time will tell. They also knew how much people loved Season Mode, Online Franchise etc etc.
    I knew year to year would have to be removed for them to do anything in terms of revamping franchise mode.
    It just made this years version an easy hard pass for me because I am in the 1-2% some poster claimed that cared about Y2Y saves. My franchise I started on 17 is that special to me.
    So it was easy to decide not to purchase 21.
    Hoping for the best. Simple as that. This is my favorite game period. So I really want it to be amazing.
    Time will tell what direction they are going in.
    Armor and Sword
    If the improvements are clearly evident in franchise mode and the gameplay is the same stellar simulation I have come to adore then MLB 22 on the PS5 will be awesome.
    Bringing back carry over saves though is something I do not think is some magical switch they will flip. It may never come back. Time will tell. They also knew how much people loved Season Mode, Online Franchise etc etc.
    I knew year to year would have to be removed for them to do anything in terms of revamping franchise mode.
    It just made this years version an easy hard pass for me because I am in the 1-2% some poster claimed that cared about Y2Y saves. My franchise I started on 17 is that special to me.
    So it was easy to decide not to purchase 21.
    Hoping for the best. Simple as that. This is my favorite game period. So I really want it to be amazing.
    Time will tell what direction they are going in.

    Look at the bright side...you can dive right into Year 5 now :D
    Anyone surprised at no Switch version announcement? I am, a little. The thing still prints money, but maybe they're waiting for the upgraded one that might be coming towards the end of this year?
    It would probably have to be scaled down dramatically to be playable on the current Switch.
    Since they are allegedly doing that sim/casual/arcade gameplay split maybe they'll add the baseball equivalent of Madden's The Yard and call it:
    The Lot! Introducing our new over the top baseball mode. We've got bat flips, bright colors, battle royale and players ignoring all the unwritten rules of baseball. Bringing the action to the parking and sandlots all over the world where baseball belongs. Level up your avatar and take on today's biggest stars like Miley Cyrus, SpongeBob and DJ Khaled.
    polyduster
    For anyone who uses the Year to Year saves feature.....Not good news
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    Well this completely pisses me off. I won't be buying the game this year I was going to start my franchise with the rosters I have worked on now and continue it on to the new game. won't be happening now I am not waiting till May (by the time rosters are done) to play the game. watch I bet 30 team control has been taken out as well. I am not buying the game this year this killed it now. THis will also screw roster makers in using the export player trick
    It mean OSFM rosters will all have to be made from scratch don't expect rosters till June in that case or even July
    hyacinth1
    I understand why some on here dont like the idea of carry over saves but how many people who play this game really care about that? Probably 1 or 2 percent of the entire user base? so probably not a big priority for SDS. Hopefully they bring it back in 22 to carry over saves from 21.
    I don't think someone should write off 21 just yet based on one snippet of data. Let's wait to see what else they reveal. Maybe some new modes, or some new way they will be doing things different than last gen.
    personally im pretty stoked about 21 and the potential it has to offer. Already it being on Xbox and cross platform seals the deal for me. And the upcoming information will be topping on the cake.

    Have they brought back any feature they have taken out?
    ninertravel
    April 20 is fine it is more then likely we will have a delayed season anyway too

    We are? MLBPA is rejecting the offer and doesnt sound like they will counteroffer.
    bcruise
    Anyone surprised at no Switch version announcement? I am, a little. The thing still prints money, but maybe they're waiting for the upgraded one that might be coming towards the end of this year?
    It would probably have to be scaled down dramatically to be playable on the current Switch.

    I think the scaling down is what prevented it from making it to Switch. Like you said, hopefully if this Switch Pro ever happens, The Show can appear there.
    JoshC1977
    Is it? I mean, many here are jaded...but.....
    The decision may very well have boiled-down to two options:
    1. Do nothing/very little with franchise mode but keep carryovers.
    2. Overhaul franchise but you have to do away with carryovers for a year.
    What if the "new franchise" includes expanded rosters (beyond 90)? The roster size alone may have been enough to necessitate killing-off carryovers for a year - roster expansion will greatly alter every dynamic in the game...carryover saves likely would have been massively "busted". Once that new base is in-place in MLBTS21, it would (in theory) be able to continue in 22 and any franchises from 21 could be moved forward from that point.
    If carryovers are gone to never return, then yes, it's bad. I just don't think this will be the case - I don't see the proverbial "writing on the wall" here. SDS even commented in the blog that they understand the popularity of this feature.
    I'm going to say this though...I think it would strongly behoove SDS to be up front in their pre-launch materials/streams if they intend for carryovers to return for '22. It might be questionable from a business perspective to do this; but if they want to be a customer-driven service, then I think it would be a classy thing to do.

    I guess I should clarify that people means me and a few of my colleagues that have been discussing this in our MLB group text this afternoon. Maybe I was generalizing more than I should have. I am coming off of four 12s in a row though...
    I don't disagree with your points.
    I do acknowledge that it was likely a choice. Change franchise or keep carry over saves. If you are going to improve something you have to start over at times. No denying that.
    Carry over saves may come back. I remember something about them taking a full cycle to make sure they could add it though. I hope they return as they said they knew it was a popular feature. I just don't know. But I agree if it is in the plans they need to put it out there.
    I do have more faith in SDS than a lot of other developers. There are only a few other developers I really count on to follow through and this is one sports one I have faith in.
    It's all going to come down to what revamped means. Sure if we get 125 man rosters or what not, that would be cool. And an obvious reason why carry over could not stay.
    I am likely eyeing 2022 as a return to the game myself as I will have hopefully accomplished what I have sought it my Indians franchise and that is a four year championship run. I won in 2025, 2026, and recently won in 2027. I plan on starting 2028 soon and since I can't complete that in 21, I am sticking with 20. Yes it is jumping to conclusions but I am ok with that. Plus I should be on the PS5 by then.
    tnixen
    Looks like we will have to wait until March until they reveal anything about the game. Thank you vey much Coronavirus :(
    And I am not shocked at all that the PS5 version will be $10 more then the PS4 version. But I really hope they are charging $10 more because the PS5 version will be something "EXTRA SPECIAL" and not just because they can.
    Just saying year after year I see so many say MLB The Show looks the same for good reason. But I really hope that trend finally stops with PS5!
    I just really want that tug to the floor feeling when my eyes see MLB The Show 21 PS5 version for the first time :)

    The PS5 version was always going to be $70. That’s the price point for all major Sony published PS5 games. While I’m sure there will be upgrades on the PS5, mostly graphic fidelity, audio, and controller upgrades, I won’t expect anything past that. There’s cross play with last gen, so the gameplay cannot be drastically different between the generations.
    DanH35
    The PS5 version was always going to be $70. That’s the price point for all major Sony published PS5 games. While I’m sure there will be upgrades on the PS5, mostly graphic fidelity, audio, and controller upgrades, I won’t expect anything past that. There’s cross play with last gen, so the gameplay cannot be drastically different between the generations.

    I'm hoping for a few extra bells and whistles in presentation, personally. Since it's so stripped down for the sake of speeding up play, Online (with cross-play) presentation doesn't necessarily have to limit what the next-gens can do offline in that department.
    Agree that the gameplay has to be virtually the same if online cross-play between console generations exists.
    4/20 release
    Another month for Ridin Roster so Memorial Day Weeknd start Franchise!
    Only thing I can hope for is the Season doesnt start til 5/1
    I’m going to blame Xbox on why carry over stuff is gone, they didn’t want 2 seperate codes for a feature that Xbox won’t have with no prior history
    Poor ricin has months of work from scratch and do those classic rosters guys, don’t expect import rosters from 20 feature either because Xbox wouldn’t have it,
    I'm trying to remember, weren't there some quirks that the Sony guys said they literally couldn't fix on current gen due to the engine? Hoping that the cross play stuff doesn't limit those updates.
    Lisac
    4/20 release
    Another month for Ridin Roster so Memorial Day Weeknd start Franchise!
    Only thing I can hope for is the Season doesnt start til 5/1

    Don’t expect that this year he’s gonna have to start from scratch with no carry over saves they can’t use the export import trick now it’s gonna be more like 3 months starting from scratch.
    Doesn't Ridin collaborate with SDS now for the full minors rosters? I don't really feel like he'd be starting completely from scratch as though it was a pre-carryover saves scenario....
    I mean that was the case last year. No idea if that's going to happen again though.
    Lisac
    4/20 release
    Another month for Ridin Roster so Memorial Day Weeknd start Franchise!
    Only thing I can hope for is the Season doesnt start til 5/1

    I think it's going to come down to if roster carryover is still there or not.
    If roster carryover is not there and season carryover is not there, they would have to start entirely from scratch. Well maybe give or take if they do part of the minors roster for SDS like last year.
    Now I didn't start following the FM roster until 2016 so I am not sure how long it took before year to year carryover started but I would guess it took longer than a month.
    If they do it, I can see it taking 2-3 months because they are starting from base one as opposed to transfer and update.
    Just a thought here but X Box might be the downfall of MLB The Show in the not to far future?
    What are the odds MLB said to Sony either you put MLB The Show on other consoles or we will not renew the MLB License?
    Hopefully I am just talking out of my *** :) lol
    dbekoscke
    SDS could have had to disable the Y2Y carry over for this initial release due to a "revamped franchise". SDS even mentions that they know how important this Y2Y feature is to the community, so maybe they are reworking it alongside the revamped franchise still, but don't want to get everyone's hopes up by fully promising it out of the gate.

    Thinking about it as a coder, this is what makes the most sense.
    There's really no reason for the console generation to matter, as some others have speculated.
    The franchise files are just databases of attributes. If SDS wants to revamp what attributes are present, how they're used, how they're weighted, etc. there can potentially be a lot of work into testing to make sure the porting process doesn't break anything.
    Look at basically any roster project where the people running it are trying to use outside sources to interpolate to the ratings of a given game. They put a lot of time into tweaking the transform so it works as best as possible even including the edge cases. Anyone familiar with the PC-based tools for many EA games (NCAA for example) can attest to just how much information there is, and how large a project it could be to port those forward to some newer even more complex system.
    This is, I think probably, the same sort of thing. Think of it as porting one rating system to another, rather than thinking of it all as a single series. There's no reason it should be impossible, but plenty of reasons it may not be worth the time to have ready for launch.
    dbekoscke

    New to MLB The Show this year is gameplay styles along-side new gameplay onboarding tutorials to help new users learn the game.
    Casual: An easier, fun, pick-up and play experience with an emphasis on learning the game.
    Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings.
    Competitive: User stick skills reign supreme. Our online H2H default

    I didn't read the entire 15+ pages, but this part I don't like. I don't understand why there needs to be a difference between simulation and competitive. I can see the difference with casual. So competitive is if I'm batting and I time my swing properly, I'm going to get a hit or homerun regardless if Mike Trout or the 25th man on the Tigers is at the plate, just because I have stick skills and move the plate coverage indicator in the right place. You have to be able to play the game well to win, but I don't want to see anyone hit like Trout just because of stick skills. And this is the online game style. I'd hope that Trout would get more hits if even if I don't get a good swing/plate coverage than the a bench player and that would depend on stick skills anyway.
    tnixen
    Just a thought here but X Box might be the downfall of MLB The Show in the not to far future?
    What are the odds MLB said to Sony either you put MLB The Show on other consoles or we will not renew the MLB License?
    Hopefully I am just talking out of my *** :) lol
    I mean that is pretty much what happened. MLB wanted the game to have more exposure and forced Sony to go multi platform.
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    Funkycorm
    I think it's going to come down to if roster carryover is still there or not.
    If roster carryover is not there and season carryover is not there, they would have to start entirely from scratch. Well maybe give or take if they do part of the minors roster for SDS like last year.
    Now I didn't start following the FM roster until 2016 so I am not sure how long it took before year to year carryover started but I would guess it took longer than a month.
    If they do it, I can see it taking 2-3 months because they are starting from base one as opposed to transfer and update.

    i seriously doubt carry over will be there because Xbox has no prior feature they won't add a feature into PS5 that isn't on xbox to much work. Xbox is going to be the downfall of the game sadly. (and no lets not have a console war over that)
    ajs41072
    I didn't read the entire 15+ pages, but this part I don't like. I don't understand why there needs to be a difference between simulation and competitive. I can see the difference with casual. So competitive is if I'm batting and I time my swing properly, I'm going to get a hit or homerun regardless if Mike Trout or the 25th man on the Tigers is at the plate, just because I have stick skills and move the plate coverage indicator in the right place. You have to be able to play the game well to win, but I don't want to see anyone hit like Trout just because of stick skills. And this is the online game style. I'd hope that Trout would get more hits if even if I don't get a good swing/plate coverage than the a bench player and that would depend on stick skills anyway.
    I just responded to something like this on Twitter yesterday. You have the crowd that believes a perfect contact swing should result in a hit everytime. The reality is you only control what you do. There is also a defensive portion. A perfectly placed defender or a ball hit on the nose at a defender should not result In a hit.
    A perfect release on a jump shot would not result in a basket if the defender blocks the ball.
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    ninertravel
    i seriously doubt carry over will be there because Xbox has no prior feature they won't add a feature into PS5 that isn't on xbox to much work. Xbox is going to be the downfall of the game sadly. (and no lets not have a console war over that)
    I think it's less of an xbox thing and more of a whatever new features they are adding to "revamped" franchise mode broke the ability to carryover saves so they have to reprogram it from scratch.
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    ninertravel
    i seriously doubt carry over will be there because Xbox has no prior feature they won't add a feature into PS5 that isn't on xbox to much work. Xbox is going to be the downfall of the game sadly. (and no lets not have a console war over that)

    I mean it probably won't be but who knows how much difference there is in programming. They are all just PCs at this point.
    Speaking theoretically, it could be there on the xbox. It just opens files from the previous game and it would pull nothing up and just be a dead link in the game. Again theoretical. It probably isn't there but they seemed to choose the words specifically saying year to year saves weren't there leaving out roster and sliders.
    I am sure it is still enough to make most roster makers hold off until something concrete comes out. No doubt about that.
    I think the likely reason it's not there would be if they added attributes or some kind or adjusted roster size. This is likely a reason why carry over saves are gone as well. That's just my perogative though.
    XtremeDunkz
    I think it's less of an xbox thing and more of a whatever new features they are adding to "revamped" franchise mode broke the ability to carryover saves so they have to reprogram it from scratch.
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    I hope you are right and that is the reason. if it is it's best for the future.
    I'm worried about RTTS being tied to DD. It feels like it could end up the route that 2k took with MyCareer were attributes are heavily capped to keep the playing field equal in online environments.
    As long as we can play RTTS offline with at least the weighted archetypes introduced in recent years, then that's fine. But I'd hate it if we can only have one character model in RTTS and ability caps enforced due to H2H play.
    I want to believe SDS won't do this. But you never know, they are just another company in the grand scheme of things.
    I wonder if we would be able to play the Show on the PC through the Microsoft store and Xbox ultimate. It would be nice but I wont hold my breath for it.
    Cod
    I guess $70 is going to be the new norm for PS5 games...
    Game prices haven't gone up since 2005 I'm surprised we made it this long without a price hike.
    ckarlic
    I wonder if we would be able to play the Show on the PC through the Microsoft store and Xbox ultimate. It would be nice but I wont hold my breath for it.

    if someone winds up being able to mod everything through microsoft and the xbox, I'd seriously consider a switch. and I've never owned an xbox. been a diehard PlayStation guy since 1998
    ckarlic
    I wonder if we would be able to play the Show on the PC through the Microsoft store and Xbox ultimate. It would be nice but I wont hold my breath for it.

    I thought the head of Microsoft said this was only for first party games on Xbox? So I think that would wind up excluding SDS since they were exclusive to Sony until now
    Caulfield
    if someone winds up being able to mod everything through microsoft and the xbox, I'd seriously consider a switch. and I've never owned an xbox. been a diehard PlayStation guy since 1998

    That’s now how it works. So don’t hold your breath LOL.
    TheBleedingRed21
    That’s now how it works. So don’t hold your breath LOL.

    lol yeah, I dunno anything about xbox. my son was an xbox guy for 15 years before he finally switched to PlayStation. so I've actually bought multiple xboxes and had them in the house but he doesn't have any interest in sports so I never played any of his games
    jrnlgrn
    Game prices haven't gone up since 2005 I'm surprised we made it this long without a price hike.
    To be fair though, they have more than made up for that with microtransactions and digital sales increase.
    There is no need for the price to go up
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    We all knew carry over saves was gonna stop at some point to enable them to make big changes to the code, this was said the last 2 maybe even 3 years now. Gues now is the time they did it and its also the perfect time with the new consoles out. Not too worries about the full minors roster as we know Ridin works together with SDS since last year so he and the team dont have to start from scratch. Looking forward to the new game, getting it on Xbox Series X since I dont have the PS5 yet and I dont want it on PS4.
    FunGaming44
    We all knew carry over saves was gonna stop at some point to enable them to make big changes to the code, this was said the last 2 maybe even 3 years now. Gues now is the time they did it and its also the perfect time with the new consoles out. Not too worries about the full minors roster as we know Ridin works together with SDS since last year so he and the team dont have to start from scratch. Looking forward to the new game, getting it on Xbox Series X since I dont have the PS5 yet and I dont want it on PS4.

    Do you not remember last year that ALOT of minors were still missing from the roster? still a lot has to be started from scratch.. the Korean and Japanese's guys were not part of the roster last year There was still a lot missing. and let's not forget we always are missing about 50vet players that didn't play in 2020 that will have to be created players. the good thing is the season would have started so they would have played a MLB game and can be on a early roster update however
    ninertravel
    Do you not remember last year that ALOT of minors were still missing from the roster? still a lot has to be started from scratch.. the Korean and Japanese's guys were not part of the roster last year There was still a lot missing. and let's not forget we always are missing about 50vet players that didn't play in 2020 that will have to be created players. the good thing is the season would have started so they would have played a MLB game and can be on a early roster update however

    Yeah I remember, but they been working on this 21 version for almost 2 years so lets hope it will be great.
    Ouch, no yr to yr saves. That's going to rub people the wrong way. Kinda glad I took a few yrs off from the show. The rest of it sounds promising though. Interested to see the new fielding mechanic & what fresh life that could bring into fielding.
    Year-to-year saves is a great feature, but I never utilized it, never got past a year in franchise because the lack of attention the game mode gets and in RTTS I can't bring myself to play with MLB-turned-generic players, if I had the ability to edit their appearance then yes I would've used it more.
    Nice to see a Padre on the cover, but somehow I'm fully expecting to be underwhelmed with any franchise announcements. Depending on what they reveal will either determine if I buy this year's game or stick with 20.
    tnixen
    Not to be funny but don't they pretty much say this every year? :) lol

    I dont think they say they've revamped and updated franchise every yerar. I think we've always gotten discouraged that they didnt mention franchise.
    For those that are saying no year to year saves are a dealbreaker, how about if customizing seasons are a thing now? Or rotating schedules? Would that bring anybody back?
    Could this be what they’re hinting at for changes how you plan for the future of your franchise?
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    Jeffrey Smith
    For those that are saying no year to year saves are a dealbreaker, how about if customizing seasons are a thing now? Or rotating schedules? Would that bring anybody back?
    Could this be what they’re hinting at for changes how you plan for the future of your franchise?
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    For myself, personally, the one thing that would attract me towards '21 and its "revamp" of franchise would be expanded rosters to say 110+ (26 per MLB, AAA, AA, A level, plus rookie stash)
    IMO, until they do this, everything else in Franchise (Scouting, free agency, trades, etc...) will continue to not be able to evolve because the roster limitation hinders those areas respective progress.
    Rotating interleague schedules would be nice, but I don't foresee it alone being a selling point that would make me scrap my carryover save to start over.
    Jeffrey Smith
    For those that are saying no year to year saves are a dealbreaker, how about if customizing seasons are a thing now? Or rotating schedules? Would that bring anybody back?
    Could this be what they’re hinting at for changes how you plan for the future of your franchise?
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    As long as the gameplay is still incredible and we are able to play the way we love it (Completely Clean Screen).
    OF COURSE!!!!!!
    But again...I am not getting hyped up. I rather be pleasantly surprised. Like really getting an early christmas present surprised.
    Time will tell.
    Jeffrey Smith
    For those that are saying no year to year saves are a dealbreaker, how about if customizing seasons are a thing now? Or rotating schedules? Would that bring anybody back?
    Could this be what they’re hinting at for changes how you plan for the future of your franchise?
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    I'm not interested in playing a shorter custom seasons to get through more years, rotating inter league sched, deeper scouting, expanded rebranding and playable a-ball would be great additions. No y2y saves though means I'd end up purchasing at least every other year instead.
    Jeffrey Smith
    For those that are saying no year to year saves are a dealbreaker, how about if customizing seasons are a thing now? Or rotating schedules? Would that bring anybody back?
    Could this be what they’re hinting at for changes how you plan for the future of your franchise?

    None of those things would be enough...those are incredibly trivial changes in the grand scheme of things. Even having customized league alignments (with retraction/expansion) would not be enough. They could add in a fresh new scouting interface, player development interface, every bell and whistle you want...and it isn't enough.
    It comes down to ONE thing...they HAVE to change the core of the mode. And as CB already said...it comes down to roster expansion. Until THAT is done and all of the mode's systems are calibrated to work well with it, nothing else they do is going to matter. Virtually every "issue" with the current mode boils down to the incredibly limited 90-man rosters.
    It's a HUGE "ask"; but until this is done, nothing else they do is going to truly move the needle.
    This may have been mentioned/answered, but I cannot access the blog from work....
    If you start a franchise on MLB '21 for the PS4 and then upgrade to the PS5, will the save file from the PS4 transfer to the PS5?
    Apologize if been answered/mentioned/or is common knowledge. :)
    countryboy
    This may have been mentioned/answered, but I cannot access the blog from work....
    If you start a franchise on MLB '21 for the PS4 and then upgrade to the PS5, will the save file from the PS4 transfer to the PS5?
    Apologize if been answered/mentioned/or is common knowledge. :)

    I would think so...they're making a huge deal about crossplay.
    But I have not seen them call that out explicitly.
    JoshC1977
    I would think so...they're making a huge deal about crossplay.
    But I have not seen them call that out explicitly.

    Thanks Josh
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    JoshC1977
    None of those things would be enough...those are incredibly trivial changes in the grand scheme of things. Even having customized league alignments (with retraction/expansion) would not be enough. They could add in a fresh new scouting interface, player development interface, every bell and whistle you want...and it isn't enough.
    It comes down to ONE thing...they HAVE to change the core of the mode. And as CB already said...it comes down to roster expansion. Until THAT is done and all of the mode's systems are calibrated to work well with it, nothing else they do is going to matter. Virtually every "issue" with the current mode boils down to the incredibly limited 90-man rosters.
    It's a HUGE "ask"; but until this is done, nothing else they do is going to truly move the needle.

    It will take an overhaul of the core mode (franchise) coupled with the same level of awesome sauce with gameplay to move the needle. Agree 100%
    Looking forward to finding out a lot more next month.
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    burjeffton
    I'd happily sacrifice carry-over saves if it means we're getting Create-A-Ballpark.

    Yea I’d happily sacrifice it too if there was the ability to create a expansion and use in franchise. Also 54 game season length would do it for me too.
    Prediction: If '21 isn't at least as good as '20 the forum will breakout into civil war with PS users blaming Xbox users for ruining everything. With a side helping if hate for the MLB for forcing multi-platform.
    BigOscar
    No idea how they get away with charging the same price in dollars that they charge in pounds. It's not as if it's a great seller over here in Britain, we are ineligible for all the competitions and giveaways and usually get the game 12 hours later, charging us the equivalent of $80+ for the standard version seems like taking liberties. Especially as nowhere over here even stocks it so you can't even shop around, you are stuck with the ripoff price of digital download.

    That is strange. I'm in the Netherlands, baseball is not a big sport here.
    Here in the playstation store the usually charge around € 49,99 for the game, which should amount to 44 pounds.
    You may want to try and get access to the Dutch psn store.
    elfdutch
    That is strange. I'm in the Netherlands, baseball is not a big sport here.
    Here in the playstation store the usually charge around € 49,99 for the game, which should amount to 44 pounds.
    You may want to try and get access to the Dutch psn store.

    Also in The Netherlands prices are €59,99 and €69,99
    Clappington
    On Microsoft store it says 2-8 online multiplayer does it always say that?
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    Not sure if this is answered yet but that’s most likely Home Run Derby only for more than 2 players.
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    countryboy

    As for Xbox, the game has never been on Xbox so I'm not sure what you would carryover and I wouldn't expect the team to research how to transfer a save from Playstation hardware to Xbox hardware.

    It would just be a database which would (likely) be platform-agnostic so the actual save content itself isn’t so much an issue.
    Cross-platform save limitations would start with the cloud services of Sony and Microsoft not communicating with each other. And since our PS offline save data is the ‘property’ (for lack of better word) of SCEA and not any individual developer they wouldn’t be able to do anything with it in-game without modifying TS20 to add an option to upload it to SDS servers to transfer to XBox.
    Or something like that.
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    Game size was revealed on the XBOX preorder page: 70 GB for Series X/S (and probably PS5), 50 for XBOne (and probably PS4). 120 if you install both via Collectors Edition.
    jrnlgrn
    Prediction: If '21 isn't at least as good as '20 the forum will breakout into civil war with PS users blaming Xbox users for ruining everything. With a side helping if hate for the MLB for forcing multi-platform.

    'member console wars? 'member 2k vs the Show? 'member Atari vs Nintendo? 'member the good old days?
    FERGIT HELL ! ! !
    ah fuggedaboudit. let's blame Manferd instead :signball:
    You can't be serious charging this much for the game here in Australia!!! go to hell!!!
    Looks like I will have to use my fake US account and pay $70 US dollars which will equal about $95 Aust if I want to buy the game.. no way in hell am I paying that much for it. people whinging about $70 have a look at us poor people in Australia how much we are ripped off with games
    ninertravel
    You can't be serious charging this much for the game here in Australia!!! go to hell!!!
    Looks like I will have to use my fake US account and pay $70 US dollars which will equal about $95 Aust if I want to buy the game.. no way in hell am I paying that much for it. people whinging about $70 have a look at us poor people in Australia how much we are ripped off with games

    I just looked at the Australian PS store and 154 is for the Jackie Robinson edition. Also looks like there are four versions, 3 for PS5 and 1 for PS4.
    All I want is franchise mode to really be overhauled, in a good way. Give us tons of franchise sliders ALA NBA 2K. Give us the ability to change minor league affiliations. Expand the rosters to include (at least) all non-rookie minor leagues. Allow us to upload logos for rebrands. Include more rules like runners on 2nd in extras.
    I always struggle with deciding between The Show and OOTP because The Show just doesnt have the franchise depth and customization options to even remotely compete. If they really improve The Show then I will 100% be in.
    I know its been talked about and all, but there's really not much else to discuss at the moment as information is still limited, but.....
    Last night I played my carryover franchise as I've been doing and it pains me to know that if I make the jump to '21, which in all honesty is likely, that this will be my final season with this carryover. I know I could start fresh in '21 and continue to play '20, but I've never been able to run multiple franchises on the same game. I get so invested in a franchise that it becomes my own little world, sometimes to the point that I'll make reference to a player being on a team that he isn't in real life.
    I know, well hopeful, that the "suspension" (i refuse to accept its gone for good) of Y2Y saves is for the betterment of my favorite mode within the game, but when you've played 12 full seasons, playing every pitch of every game from Spring Training to All-Star Games at all 3 levels, to the end of your season whether its the regular season, postseason, or championship, you become extremely attached to your franchise. I've built my roster with the understanding that I need to prepare for now and the long term as I didn't want to sacrifice tomorrow to win today in my franchise, because there was always "next year"
    Well now there is no "next year", or at least I don't expect there to be. And it stings and honestly it sucks. I've thought about just stopping for now and finding something else to play until '21 drops but I don't for two reasons:
    1) I don't want to halt my franchise only to realize that '21 isn't for me and then be that many weeks behind in games I could've played
    2) and this is the biggest, I simply don't want to give up my franchise....my team.
    Sure this probably seems silly a grown man whining about having to stop playing a video game in a sense, only to play perhaps a better version of it, but here we are, engrossed in silliness. Well over 2,000 games played in this franchise, countless pitches thrown, countless swings taken, countless hours debating on roster moves to make, pouring emotion into games that saw me pumping my fists or cursing as if my real life hung in the balance with what was happening in my virtual world.
    Y2Y saves was the greatest innovation to sports gaming, especially baseball due to the number of games, in my personal opinion. And after it being there for years to now be gone, if only for the year, is a bitter pill to swallow and a punch in the gut to recover from.
    I'll stop with the rambling here and close out by saying thank you to SDS for giving us this option/feature so that guys such as myself could really challenge our virtual GM self, and I truly hope that this isn't goodbye to Y2Y saves, but rather see you later.
    For now, its back to what will likely be the final year, year #13, in my carryover save as the days countdown to April 20th.
    :cheers:
    I listened to Down in the dugout's (Ridin and team) latest podcast, they think PS4 and PS5 versions will be totally different games.
    If that is true, man I dont know what to think... That would mean a TON of us would be missing out on what PS5 would be offering.
    If legit, I think I absolutely need to find a PS5... Although I wasnt ready to do that yet.
    The Kid 24
    I listened to Down in the dugout's (Ridin and team) latest podcast, they think PS4 and PS5 versions will be totally different games.
    If that is true, man I dont know what to think... That would mean a TON of us would be missing out on what PS5 would be offering.
    If legit, I think I absolutely need to find a PS5... Although I wasnt ready to do that yet.
    Didn't the info drop from the other day say that it will feature cross-play between not only PS/XBox but also between the generations. If that's the case fundamentally it can't be that different. Offline possibly could be slightly different feature wise but a lot would still need to remain the same.
    jrnlgrn
    Didn't the info drop from the other day say that it will feature cross-play between not only PS/XBox but also between the generations. If that's the case fundamentally it can't be that different. Offline possible could be slightly different feature wise but a lot would still need to remain the same.

    If they said about PS4 can play against Xbox 1, PS5 can play against Xbox X/S but PS4 cant play against PS5 and same with Xbox... I would have to listen again but pretty sure that's what I heard them say.
    Guys from the podcast, please correct me if Im wrong.
    The Kid 24
    If they said about PS4 can play against Xbox 1, PS5 can play against Xbox X/S but PS4 cant play against PS5 and same with Xbox... I would have to listen again but pretty sure that's what I heard them say.
    Guys from the podcast, please correct me if Im wrong.
    Here's a screen grab from the FAQ
    jrnlgrn
    Didn't the info drop from the other day say that it will feature cross-play between not only PS/XBox but also between the generations. If that's the case fundamentally it can't be that different. Offline possibly could be slightly different feature wise but a lot would still need to remain the same.

    It could be that the gameplay between the generations is identical, but franchise and RttS are completely different on the newer gen. I don’t know how probable that is, it might be wishful thinking on my part.
    DanH35
    It could be that the gameplay between the generations is identical, but franchise and RttS are completely different on the newer gen. I don’t know how probable that is, it might be wishful thinking on my part.

    Damn, if that is indeed true I may need to start looking real hard for a 5.
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    Im definitely worried that PS5 is gonna get a better Franchise mode than PS4... If so, I really dont want to miss out.... Uhhhhhhh dk what to do.
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    From what I understand the DD part will be playable between console generations but the franchise mode and RTS will be different per console generation. I would have got it on PS5 if I had one but I'm getting it on Xbox Series X because I want the next gen version and dont want to stick with the PS4 version. Loving the fact that we got crossplatform sharing, wish all sports games would do crossplatform roster sharing and such.
    ninertravel
    You can't be serious charging this much for the game here in Australia!!! go to hell!!!
    Looks like I will have to use my fake US account and pay $70 US dollars which will equal about $95 Aust if I want to buy the game.. no way in hell am I paying that much for it. people whinging about $70 have a look at us poor people in Australia how much we are ripped off with games

    Standard PS5 edition US$70 is presently AU$92 plus GST = $101. We still pay an extra $9 on top which sucks. So we are ripped off around 9%.
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    Can anyone explain why it was teased that this would be available on PC & the Switch but now it's not?
    I sold my PS4 and upgraded to a beast of a PC. Now I'm very disappointed I'll have to buy a console if I want to play the game this year.
    NBA 2K & Madden did similar things by releasing next gen games but leaving PC on the old gen.
    Should I just quit complaining and be happy with my 140fps on Warzone? Lol
    dutchy25
    Can anyone explain why it was teased that this would be available on PC & the Switch but now it's not?
    I sold my PS4 and upgraded to a beast of a PC. Now I'm very disappointed I'll have to buy a console if I want to play the game this year.
    NBA 2K & Madden did similar things by releasing next gen games but leaving PC on the old gen.
    Should I just quit complaining and be happy with my 140fps on Warzone? Lol
    They never said when it would be available on other platforms. Xbox was a surprise this year as most thought the pandemic would have pushed it to next year. I think throwing in a PC and Switch development would have stretched the team even thinner.
    To my knowledge it was never officially stated to be released on PC. They just said Xbox and Switch as far as I know.
    Edit: Actually they just said coming to consoles beyond the Playstation, and Nintendo got hyped on Twitter about it, but I don't believe a Switch version was ever officially announced either.
    jrnlgrn
    They never said when it would be available on other platforms. Xbox was a surprise this year as most thought the pandemic would have pushed it to next year. I think throwing in a PC and Switch development would have stretched the team even thinner.

    I agree that it would have been too much of an ask for a relatively very small dev team (compared to other dev team sizes) to get the game running on PC and especially Switch.
    I believe that it was incredibly easy for SDS to port the code from PS4 to PS5. And then pretty easy to port the code over to Xbox Series consoles. This is because Xbox and PS5 architectures are so similar.
    PC would probably be the next step, if they are putting the game on PC at all. Maybe I missed it, but I have never seen anything to suggest or confirm that MLBTS will be on PC.
    Switch is a bit more of a challenge due to the hardware, so that will take more time and testing.

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