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Madden NFL 22 Patch #3 Available, Cover 3 Tuning - Patch Notes

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Madden NFL 22 Patch #3 Available, Cover 3 Tuning - Patch Notes

Madden NFL 22 patch #3 is available for all consoles and PC. The update features mostly cover 3 tuning. Check out the patch notes and let us know what you’re seeing.

  • Addressed an issue with class progression when player lock is on in Face of the Franchise
  • Resolved an issue with flipped play art when base aligning and choosing a new play
  • Tuning to Outside Cover 3 Deep Zones giving up too much space vs Corner routes with no other vertical receiving threat in their area
  • Tuning to Cover 3 Deep Zones vs Bunch Flood concepts
  • Tuning to Outside Cover 3 Deep Zones to better anticipate threats coming from across the field with no other threats to their zone

DEV NOTE: The Gameplay portion of this Title Update is focused on Cover 3, one of the most popular coverage types among players, and aims to address the top pass coverage points of feedback from players. As we discussed on Good Morning Madden, we are targeting specific aspects of pass coverage like Flats and Curl-Flat zones in our next Title Update among many other updates to Madden NFL 22 overall.

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  1. PhillyPhanatic14
    I mean... why fix Progressive Fatigue when you can just continue to ignore it and pretend like Franchise hasn't had a massive bug in it since the beta in June?
    I'd like to at the very least have some word on the issue. EA has done a terrible job communicating with the community this year.
    The game has so much potential right now, but it has a couple major issues that have kept me from starting my first real franchise.
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    Yeah why bother addressing the fact that the servers have just not worked for three weeks, who needs them? I have never seen a game or company give so little consideration and concern to its community servers lmao. I'm floored.
    I was able to download a draft class which I guess is fine but I have a hard time believing every community-created roster itself was "deleted by the creator."
    I think gamers are dramatic and it takes a lot for me to feel ripped off by the games I buy but I can't believe how broken this is, even for EA/Madden.
    EDIT: after downloading the draft class an "unexpected error" occurred and booted me off the server, real great product here.
    So no fix to MUT, Superstar KO, The Yard, Face of the Franchise, and online franchise? None of which have worked for me since the trial. Awesome job EA!
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    canes21
    I'd like to at the very least have some word on the issue. EA has done a terrible job communicating with the community this year.
    The game has so much potential right now, but it has a couple manor issues that have kept me from starting my first real franchise.
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    Precisely this right now. I'll be honest, I've been let down since they said the scouting was going to be October now. Was I considering starting a franchise? Yes I was, but then I remembered the progressive fatigue. Yeah, we can turn it off and that's great, but I'm not really interested in starting something with a bunch of broken features and just missing out on those features because they're broken. To me, just acknowledge it, tell us how or when we could see a dang fix.
    Gritblitzer
    Precisely this right now. I'll be honest, I've been let down since they said the scouting was going to be October now. Was I considering starting a franchise? Yes I was, but then I remembered the progressive fatigue. Yeah, we can turn it off and that's great, but I'm not really interested in starting something with a bunch of broken features and just missing out on those features because they're broken. To me, just acknowledge it, tell us how or when we could see a dang fix.

    Yeah I could probably live without progressive fatigue if there weren't so many other problems right now, it's just all compounded.
    jpdavis82
    So no fix to MUT, Superstar KO, The Yard, Face of the Franchise, and online franchise? None of which have worked for me since the trial. Awesome job EA!
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    Sounds like an issue on your end somehow. I haven't had a single issue with any of those modes.
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    Tdubs112
    Sounds like an issue on your end somehow. I haven't had a single issue with any of those modes.
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    It’s not just me it’s a well known issue that multiple people have reported. I’ve talked to several EA reps and they say it’s something they have to fix on their end, we’ve tried all the troubleshooting steps on my end multiple times. Yet they still haven’t fixed it….
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    jpdavis82
    So no fix to MUT, Superstar KO, The Yard, Face of the Franchise, and online franchise? None of which have worked for me since the trial. Awesome job EA!
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    This sounds like a problem with your router, your cable modem, or your internet service provider. Not Madden.
    CM Hooe
    This sounds like a problem with your router, your cable modem, or your internet service provider. Not Madden.

    No as I mentioned before the reps at EA are aware of the issue and we have tried all the trouble shooting steps on my end. No other game I own has any connection issues of any kind, 2K22, Madden 21, Flight Simulator, MLB The Show. My internet is consistently around 150MB/S.
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    The game is shelved for me until the scouting update, at a minimum. I'm pretty surprised there isn't more fixed in here. With how this year has gone, I'm not buying Madden until January next time if I think the game is worth getting at all.
    Still no fix for progressive fatigue for the CPU? Omg EA great work! Doesn't matter if you hire guys like Deuce & Swami if you can't program & code properly.
    jpdavis82
    No as I mentioned before the reps at EA are aware of the issue and we have tried all the trouble shooting steps on my end. No other game I own has any connection issues of any kind, 2K22, Madden 21, Flight Simulator, MLB The Show. My internet is consistently around 150MB/S.
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    What's the issue you're having? Maybe someone else here has encountered the same thing? I know I've had some issues with the game over the years.
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    Broncos86
    The game is shelved for me until the scouting update, at a minimum. I'm pretty surprised there isn't more fixed in here. With how this year has gone, I'm not buying Madden until January next time if I think the game is worth getting at all.

    Heck by then it might be available for free on EA Play, or at least a lot cheaper. Don't make the same mistake I did and put faith in them to get it right, get 2K or something instead (whatever you like, has to be better than this)
    something at ea feels to be amiss, like they aren't firing on all cylinders.
    this patch is underwhelming at best.
    and what about their communication. the past couple years, they were on top of everything, and just like that they have gone silent.
    has anyone played today post patch, anything not mentioned in the patch notes happening in the game? CFM penalties being one of them?
    don't get me wrong, i'm playing the crap out of the game, like it a lot, i feel it captures an nfl game better than anytime ever, but they are missing the boat on some of these fixes. not that coverage fixes arent important, but hopefully they didn't just band aid something because people are complaining.
    so much important stuff to be done, 6 weeks into this, and they drop the ball again.
    all they had to do was mention progressive fatigue, mention penalties, maybe have a fix for just one of them, and this would be an entirely different conversation.
    Sphinx
    What's the issue you're having? Maybe someone else here has encountered the same thing? I know I've had some issues with the game over the years.
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    When I play MUT the solo challenges don’t load I get an error saying it can’t connect to the servers, when I go to SuperStar KO I get an error and it won’t load, The yard freezes when it tries to load, when I play Face of the Franchise once I get to the NFL, the controller gets stuck in the middle before a game and all I can do is back out, the same thing happens when I try to play a game in online franchise. So all I can play is offline franchise and play now.
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    BadAssHskr

    has anyone played today post patch, anything not mentioned in the patch notes happening in the game? CFM penalties being one of them?

    I've been playing since the patch, and haven't noticed any unannounced changes. Even the C3 tuning is pretty subtle (possible I simply haven't hit a scenario where it'd be more noticeable yet).
    BadAssHskr
    something at ea feels to be amiss, like they aren't firing on all cylinders.
    this patch is underwhelming at best.
    and what about their communication. the past couple years, they were on top of everything, and just like that they have gone silent.
    has anyone played today post patch, anything not mentioned in the patch notes happening in the game? CFM penalties being one of them?
    don't get me wrong, i'm playing the crap out of the game, like it a lot, i feel it captures an nfl game better than anytime ever, but they are missing the boat on some of these fixes. not that coverage fixes arent important, but hopefully they didn't just band aid something because people are complaining.
    so much important stuff to be done, 6 weeks into this, and they drop the ball again.
    all they had to do was mention progressive fatigue, mention penalties, maybe have a fix for just one of them, and this would be an entirely different conversation.

    I played a quarter and a half and did not see a single penalty.
    jpdavis82
    When I play MUT the solo challenges don’t load I get an error saying it can’t connect to the servers, when I go to SuperStar KO I get an error and it won’t load, The yard freezes when it tries to load, when I play Face of the Franchise once I get to the NFL, the controller gets stuck in the middle before a game and all I can do is back out, the same thing happens when I try to play a game in online franchise. So all I can play is offline franchise and play now.
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    As an IT guy, this sounds like a network connection issue. How are you connected to your home router?
    BadAssHskr
    so much important stuff to be done, 6 weeks into this, and they drop the ball again.

    I think it's important to remember that things take time to do. We all want to see a lot of things added / changed / fixed, and making those things happen is not as easy as a snap of the fingers.
    all they had to do was mention progressive fatigue, mention penalties, maybe have a fix for just one of them, and this would be an entirely different conversation.

    At the same time, this is also true. Outside of the scouting update - which, the timeline for that feature has been pretty clearly communicated - Tiburon's community outreach for Madden 22 would appear to be pretty lackluster so far.
    At this time last year we knew M21 franchise mode was going to receive three significant post-launch updates (not including bug fixes). Except for the scouting update, no such setting of expectations has happened this time around.
    This patch didn't get a gridiron notes either so it's a pretty small patch anyway. I imagine we'll have another one next week or so that's pretty substantial. That said there's still some pretty big issues that needed to be addressed yesterday.
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    glenzariczny
    Penalties are working fine in franchise for me. Sim stats are still jacked though. QB's still can't complete a pass over 25 yards.

    All I see are false starts, block in the back and the occasional holding. I've never seen any other penalty called. Are you seeing the ones I didn't note?
    JayD
    All I see are false starts, block in the back and the occasional holding. I've never seen any other penalty called. Are you seeing the ones I didn't note?
    Wow, penalties been fixed for me since the 1st patch. I get those you get along with roughing the passer, running/roughing the kicker, face mask, dpi, illegal forward pass, the occasional unnecessary roughness.
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    roadman
    What system JP?
    I thought I read on Twitter there were issues similar to this on the Xbox-S series.

    Series S
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    timiville
    Wow, penalties been fixed for me since the 1st patch. I get those you get along with roughing the passer, running/roughing the kicker, face mask, dpi, illegal forward pass, the occasional unnecessary roughness.
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    What are your penalty settings? I'm wondering if this is where those of us that still see virtually none need to uninstall and reinstall?
    glenzariczny
    Penalties are working fine in franchise for me. Sim stats are still jacked though. QB's still can't complete a pass over 25 yards.

    Weird. I'm seeing longer passes with some regularity (a couple times a game, maybe). Just had completion of 28 and 33 yards to Tyreek Hill.
    You're talking about SuperSim, right? Not franchise shell weekly sims?
    timiville
    Wow, penalties been fixed for me since the 1st patch. I get those you get along with roughing the passer, running/roughing the kicker, face mask, dpi, illegal forward pass, the occasional unnecessary roughness.
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    I'm on PS5. Are you on next gen?
    tg88forHOF
    Weird. I'm seeing longer passes with some regularity (a couple times a game, maybe). Just had completion of 28 and 33 yards to Tyreek Hill.
    You're talking about SuperSim, right? Not franchise shell weekly sims?

    He means sims in Offline.
    But for those people getting penalties, are you playing cloud or offline?
    JayD
    All I see are false starts, block in the back and the occasional holding. I've never seen any other penalty called. Are you seeing the ones I didn't note?

    I see PI and roughing the passer. Had some calls for illegal forward pass. Had one over 3 seasons for a hit out of bounds on the CPU.
    Retropyro
    I see PI and roughing the passer. Had some calls for illegal forward pass. Had one over 3 seasons for a hit out of bounds on the CPU.

    Its more about the frequency of the calls per game that troubles me.
    Sure, im seeing penalties in games, but only 1 and maybe sometimes 2. Go play a play now game and they are at a fairly realistic frequency.
    Thats where the problem lies.
    BadAssHskr
    Its more about the frequency of the calls per game that troubles me.
    Sure, im seeing penalties in games, but only 1 and maybe sometimes 2. Go play a play now game and they are at a fairly realistic frequency.
    Thats where the problem lies.

    This is my problem. Far too few penalties, which are a huge part of NFL football. I can't start a franchise until this is fixed. If it's ignored, that's a wasted $70 for me.
    I had no idea that Play Now penalties were much more frequent.
    I'm in Week 17 and the progressive fatigue has finally caught up to the CPU teams. Just played the Rams and Akers took about 5-8 snaps and never came back into the game.
    When I was on defense their DL were all doing the fatigue animation bobbing their heads. I only won 24-10 but they couldn't do much of anything on offense.
    This is disappointing it hasn't been fixed yet. I have three options I guess, shelve my CFM and wait on a fix, start another CFM and turn PF off until it's fixed or start killing the CPU teams as fatigue continues to get worse.
    I've read you can't even turn it off during a CFM and have the players recover their fatigue. :(
    Gambo
    He means sims in Offline.
    But for those people getting penalties, are you playing cloud or offline?

    Retropyro
    I see PI and roughing the passer. Had some calls for illegal forward pass. Had one over 3 seasons for a hit out of bounds on the CPU.

    Offline Franchise. Everything at 65 except Roughing the Passerm, which is 45.
    I'm seeing a lot of holding, Illegal block in the back, false start, maybe 1 face mask a game, Seen a couple illegal touching. And also a couple Illegal forward pass. And about 2 Pass Interference calls a game.
    On average, about 5 penalties a game per team.
    I do play on 11 minute quarters though.
    I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. I seem to get penalties more frequently now, than when I was playing at 10 minute quarters.
    Wondering if maybe pelanties are really toned down on lower quarter lengths.....
    Jagsfan24
    So is cover 3 fixed? Considering i been calling cover 2 the majority of my zone defenses

    According to the notes, this update only changed behaviors of the players in deep third zones. So it depends on which area of Cover 3 you are having issues with.
    CM Hooe
    According to the notes, this update only changed behaviors of the players in deep third zones. So it depends on which area of Cover 3 you are having issues with.

    That was what i was having issues with. Everytime i called cover 3 my corners would drift off and leave a guy wide open along the sidelines
    ktd1976
    Offline Franchise. Everything at 65 except Roughing the Passerm, which is 45.
    I'm seeing a lot of holding, Illegal block in the back, false start, maybe 1 face mask a game, Seen a couple illegal touching. And also a couple Illegal forward pass. And about 2 Pass Interference calls a game.
    On average, about 5 penalties a game per team.
    I do play on 11 minute quarters though.
    I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. I seem to get penalties more frequently now, than when I was playing at 10 minute quarters.
    Wondering if maybe pelanties are really toned down on lower quarter lengths.....

    No. I play 15 minute quarters and see very few. I’ve never seen a PI in M22. Never. I have everything at 99 except RTP at 50.
    I am getting a ton of penalties (mostly blocking in the back, but I’ll take it as it’s definitely added a much needed dynamic to drives).
    Playing offline franchise 15 minutes 14 accel clock.
    Hell, my game earlier today had 6 penalties (4 blocking in back, 2 holding) in the first quarter. CPU also got quite a few false starts in one of my games.
    Overall, I’ve had blocking in the back, holding, illegal touching, face mask, defensive pass interference, false start.
    CM Hooe
    I think it's important to remember that things take time to do. We all want to see a lot of things added / changed / fixed, and making those things happen is not as easy as a snap of the fingers.

    Come on man, some of us paid $70 or more on this and have gotten half the game we were promised, at best. I don't want to hear about patience regarding one of the wealthiest and largest developers in the world.
    They shouldn't *have* to fix things "by the snap of their fingers." They shouldn't have promised features they can't deliver on and neglected the ones people like and have gotten used to, and if they couldn't do it they should have delayed release. Not like it would've made a difference.
    Just rubs me the wrong way telling people who are rightfully angry to just wait and see.
    TheBleedingRed21
    I am getting a ton of penalties (mostly blocking in the back, but I’ll take it as it’s definitely added a much needed dynamic to drives).
    Playing offline franchise 15 minutes 14 accel clock.
    Hell, my game earlier today had 6 penalties (4 blocking in back, 2 holding) in the first quarter. CPU also got quite a few false starts in one of my games.
    Overall, I’ve had blocking in the back, holding, illegal touching, face mask, defensive pass interference, false start.

    Your penalty settings?
    ZachenFoot
    Come on man, some of us paid $70 or more on this and have gotten half the game we were promised, at best. I don't want to hear about patience regarding one of the wealthiest and largest developers in the world.
    They shouldn't *have* to fix things "by the snap of their fingers." They shouldn't have promised features they can't deliver on and neglected the ones people like and have gotten used to, and if they couldn't do it they should have delayed release. Not like it would've made a difference.
    Just rubs me the wrong way telling people who are rightfully angry to just wait and see.

    I never suggested that you not voice your displeasure with the current product.
    Rather, I am suggesting that you offer the extremely stressed engineers, designers, and testers on the ground level time and patience to do their jobs.
    I get we are all frustrated by various pain points in this game, but some human empathy would be really nice around here for a change.
    ZachenFoot
    Come on man, some of us paid $70 or more on this and have gotten half the game we were promised, at best. I don't want to hear about patience regarding one of the wealthiest and largest developers in the world.
    They shouldn't *have* to fix things "by the snap of their fingers." They shouldn't have promised features they can't deliver on and neglected the ones people like and have gotten used to, and if they couldn't do it they should have delayed release. Not like it would've made a difference.
    Just rubs me the wrong way telling people who are rightfully angry to just wait and see.

    It's wild that they're able to add a line into the Scouting Delay Blog bragging about Progressive Fatigue being a big new addition to the mode this year but they haven't been able to take two seconds since launch to say "We're looking into the issue with Progressive Fatigue." That's all we need. Just let us know you're at least aware of this huge bug...
    And yes, we have a right to be frustrated. Don't feel like you can't say it. That's what a Madden forum is for. There's a large group in the madden community that loves reaping the benefits of the #FixMaddenFranchise thing last year but they have no patience for people speaking up when the devs under-deliver. It is what it is. There are some things that are better left ignored.
    BadAssHskr
    Its more about the frequency of the calls per game that troubles me.
    Sure, im seeing penalties in games, but only 1 and maybe sometimes 2. Go play a play now game and they are at a fairly realistic frequency.
    Thats where the problem lies.
    I get from 7-15 penalties a game.
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    kpeercy
    No. I play 15 minute quarters and see very few. I’ve never seen a PI in M22. Never. I have everything at 99 except RTP at 50.
    Putting everything at 99 jacks the game up. Adjust other things like speed parity, fatigue, and attributes.
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    CM Hooe
    I never suggested that you not voice your displeasure with the current product.
    Rather, I am suggesting that you offer the extremely stressed engineers, designers, and testers on the ground level time and patience to do their jobs.
    I get we are all frustrated by various pain points in this game, but some human empathy would be really nice around here for a change.

    I'll show them empathy when they give me my $70 back, otherwise they robbed me this time and I'm not interested.
    ZachenFoot
    Come on man, some of us paid $70 or more on this and have gotten half the game we were promised, at best. I don't want to hear about patience regarding one of the wealthiest and largest developers in the world.
    They shouldn't *have* to fix things "by the snap of their fingers." They shouldn't have promised features they can't deliver on and neglected the ones people like and have gotten used to, and if they couldn't do it they should have delayed release. Not like it would've made a difference.
    Just rubs me the wrong way telling people who are rightfully angry to just wait and see.

    I pre-ordered knowing how the game has always needed some type of Update, also knowing that the Scouting aspect was not not going to be available at release.
    I knew these things but still pre-ordered, so to me I can’t use the “I paid $70”.
    I could’ve waited but chose not to, so I got to accept my poor purchasing choice at this point.
    Very VERY disappointed that the game STILL shuts down my Series X during gameplay. EA has really dropped the ball and FAILED with this game this year.
    Please do NOT comment about how it's my system or me or where it is or what I have plugged in or ANYTHING, really, unless you understand my frustration and agree that series X shutting down is a problem.. Well documented, BTW on EA forums and still NO answer or even an APOLOGY from those "designers" behind this wreck.
    Im so gee dee pis*ed at EA about this..
    PhillyPhanatic14
    And yes, we have a right to be frustrated. Don't feel like you can't say it. That's what a Madden forum is for. There's a large group in the madden community that loves reaping the benefits of the #FixMaddenFranchise thing last year but they have no patience for people speaking up when the devs under-deliver. It is what it is. There are some things that are better left ignored.

    This is a pretty wild accusation. Who exactly are these people you speak of?
    khaliib
    I pre-ordered knowing how the game has always needed some type of Update, also knowing that the Scouting aspect was not not going to be available at release.
    I knew these things but still pre-ordered, so to me I can’t use the “I paid $70”.
    I could’ve waited but chose not to, so I got to accept my poor purchasing choice at this point.

    That's good for you but I don't care.
    timiville
    Putting everything at 99 jacks the game up. Adjust other things like speed parity, fatigue, and attributes.
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    Speed parity has no effect on Penalties....
    I've tried 99, 75, 50, 25 and 0
    Also in theory fatigue should effect penalties because players are more prone to mistakes when they get tired or fatigued
    But in Madden it doesn't seem to work that way.
    Some games I'll get penalties and then some games I won't.....
    Bottom line is EA needs to start from scratch and revaluate their Penalty sliders and Sliders in general TBH
    CM Hooe
    I never suggested that you not voice your displeasure with the current product.
    Rather, I am suggesting that you offer the extremely stressed engineers, designers, and testers on the ground level time and patience to do their jobs.
    I get we are all frustrated by various pain points in this game, but some human empathy would be really nice around here for a change.

    Are u kidding me????....no offense to the developers that are working day on night on this game, but come on man, we arent talking about Doug Flutie Football here....this is EA Sports and we, as gamers are paying now a premium of $69 for this game!!! Hire more developers, or whatever you got to do to make this worth what we are paying for this!!!!.......thats all man!!!
    khaliib
    The thread about the Title Update would seek the same energy from you about your $70 purchase rant.
    I digress!!!
    We all know that every Title Update thread always doubles as a complain about the history of EA/Madden mistakes thread as well unfortunately.
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    RicoLaguna
    Are u kidding me????....no offense to the developers that are working day on night on this game, but come on man, we arent talking about Doug Flutie Football here....this is EA Sports and we, as gamers are paying now a premium of $69 for this game!!! Hire more developers, or whatever you got to do to make this worth what we are paying for this!!!!.......thats all man!!!

    I bought Madden the last few years and it was never *this* broken for me, it's not like we're just ignorant people who made a bad choice. We put it on faith that features that worked in the past would work this year and it's baffling they don't. We put faith in new features being ready and they're not, which to me is unacceptable from a developer EA's size.
    It's weird, I have no issue with people who want to wait this out and are okay being patient. That's honestly great! Not entirely sure why some of us are getting lectures for being very unhappy about this and how we should "show empathy." There wasn't a whole lot of empathy when they took my money at checkout, sorry. $70 is a little more valuable after the last 18 months.
    You can be okay with this but don't present anyone who's upset as unreasonable. And no matter how much someone says "that's not what I'm doing," come on, I'm 30. That's exactly what you're doing lmao.
    PhillyPhanatic14
    It's wild that they're able to add a line into the Scouting Delay Blog bragging about Progressive Fatigue being a big new addition to the mode this year but they haven't been able to take two seconds since launch to say "We're looking into the issue with Progressive Fatigue." That's all we need. Just let us know you're at least aware of this huge bug...
    And yes, we have a right to be frustrated. Don't feel like you can't say it. That's what a Madden forum is for. There's a large group in the madden community that loves reaping the benefits of the #FixMaddenFranchise thing last year but they have no patience for people speaking up when the devs under-deliver. It is what it is. There are some things that are better left ignored.

    I mean the thing that gets me is how progressive fatigue hasn't been mentioned how broke it is for the user vs CPU and we get crickets. Instead how amazing the new feature it is lol. If I actually want to use the new feature I have to fix the game myself like a part time job to fix it. I know ppl it's just a game until it breaks your season in week 15 & so on & your playing bench warmers.. I wasn't even holding my breath for the scouting update this yr (figure February) after all the patches to fix it. A feature at release being broken for people that play vs the cpu in Franchise is unexcusable.
    Milticket
    I mean the thing that gets me is how progression fatigue hasn't been mentioned how broke it is for the user vs CPU and we get crickets. Instead how amazing the new feature it is lol. If I actually want to use the new feature I have to fix the game myself like a part time job to fix it. I know ppl it's just a game until it breaks your season in week 15 & so on & your playing bench warmers.. I wasn't even holding my breath for the scouting update this yr (figure February) after all the patches to fix it. A feature at release being broken for people that play vs the cpu in Franchise is unexcusable.

    Yeah, it's 2021 and the new trend of developers putting out half-made games that ~maybe~ they'll get around to fixing along the way is plain bad.
    Again, nobody's stopping anyone from being fine with this but if I can run a cleaner franchise on Madden 19 than this one, that's a big problem and anyone is right to be mad about it. Maybe if they told people what's going on we wouldn't be having these conversations.
    Also to respond to another comment on the thread, we're complaining about this on the patch thread because none of the actual problems breaking the game were acknowledged at all lol.
    kpeercy
    Your penalty settings?

    I’m using Schndiat’s slider set currently. Don’t know them right off (can go to sliders forum and check it out), but since they fixed franchise penalties not occurring, I get quite a bit every game. I’ve played several.
    With that said, they still need to overhaul the penalty system to be more realistic for sure.
    Milticket
    I mean the thing that gets me is how progressive fatigue hasn't been mentioned how broke it is for the user vs CPU and we get crickets. Instead how amazing the new feature it is lol. If I actually want to use the new feature I have to fix the game myself like a part time job to fix it. I know ppl it's just a game until it breaks your season in week 15 & so on & your playing bench warmers.. I wasn't even holding my breath for the scouting update this yr (figure February) after all the patches to fix it. A feature at release being broken for people that play vs the cpu in Franchise is unexcusable.

    Yeah and I get that fixes take time, but just tell us you’re working on it. Radio silence is not the answer. And that’s not the message we were given with the podcasts and the gridiron notes prior to release. But now that the issues are out in the open they refuse to communicate or acknowledge them. It’s insane that guys on here can’t even get into games or game modes without freezing and EA can’t acknowledge that either.
    PhillyPhanatic14
    Yeah and I get that fixes take time, but just tell us you’re working on it. Radio silence is not the answer. And that’s not the message we were given with the podcasts and the gridiron notes prior to release. But now that the issues are out in the open they refuse to communicate or acknowledge them. It’s insane that guys on here can’t even get into games or game modes without freezing and EA can’t acknowledge that either.

    Yep, and the idea that criticizing this is somehow a slight at the developers is a bad strawman. EA is one of the biggest corporations in the world, they can always hire more if their current team is overworked. That argument just doesn't do a lot for me here.
    The game we have is not the game we were sold, and we don't know if we'll ever get it now. It's pretty much as simple as that.
    I am not an EA defender and do agree that they could be better at communicating, but I have worked for two of the largest most well known IT companies in the world and I can assure you, the days if going out and getting new headcount whenever you want or need are gone.
    Even, and maybe especially, the biggest corps are cutting back on resources or pushing to low cost countries. I can't tell you how many projects I had that missed critical dates due to the restrictions on hiring. :(
    C
    ZachenFoot
    Yep, and the idea that criticizing this is somehow a slight at the developers is a bad strawman. EA is one of the biggest corporations in the world, they can always hire more if their current team is overworked. That argument just doesn't do a lot for me here.
    The game we have is not the game we were sold, and we don't know if we'll ever get it now. It's pretty much as simple as that.

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    TheBleedingRed21
    I am getting a ton of penalties (mostly blocking in the back, but I’ll take it as it’s definitely added a much needed dynamic to drives).
    Playing offline franchise 15 minutes 14 accel clock.
    Hell, my game earlier today had 6 penalties (4 blocking in back, 2 holding) in the first quarter. CPU also got quite a few false starts in one of my games.
    Overall, I’ve had blocking in the back, holding, illegal touching, face mask, defensive pass interference, false start.

    Default penalty sliders?
    Can't complain about the game play after this patch though. Played my home opener Jets vs Panthers last night, and a great game of football was was displayed.
    Ended up having 3 penalties generated.
    Anyhow, EA definitely has the game feel down pretty good with this one, no question about that. It always leaves me wanting to play more.
    OJsakila
    Very VERY disappointed that the game STILL shuts down my Series X during gameplay. EA has really dropped the ball and FAILED with this game this year.
    Please do NOT comment about how it's my system or me or where it is or what I have plugged in or ANYTHING, really, unless you understand my frustration and agree that series X shutting down is a problem.. Well documented, BTW on EA forums and still NO answer or even an APOLOGY from those "designers" behind this wreck.
    Im so gee dee pis*ed at EA about this..

    I keep hearing about the Xbox Series X completely shutting down on people. There's a thread on the NBA 2K forum with the same issue. Is this more of a Microsoft problem? I've never had any shutting off issues with my PS5.
    JKSportsGamer1984
    I keep hearing about the Xbox Series X completely shutting down on people. There's a thread on the NBA 2K forum with the same issue. Is this more of a Microsoft problem? I've never had any shutting off issues with my PS5.

    I never (knock on wood) have Madden crash on the XSX. Weird that it's happening to some, but not everyone. I would assume it's a Microsoft issue tbh.
    capa
    I am not an EA defender and do agree that they could be better at communicating, but I have worked for two of the largest most well known IT companies in the world and I can assure you, the days if going out and getting new headcount whenever you want or need are gone.
    Even, and maybe especially, the biggest corps are cutting back on resources or pushing to low cost countries. I can't tell you how many projects I had that missed critical dates due to the restrictions on hiring. :(
    C
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    Also let's not forget EA can still be doing remote work because of covid!
    Milticket
    I never (knock on wood) have Madden crash on the XSX. Weird that it's happening to some, but not everyone. I would assume it's a Microsoft issue tbh.

    It’s not a Microsoft issue or something else within the core system would re-trigger the event. I have had it happen once, I am not sure what caused it. I believe I was playing franchise with a DL roster from the community. Was doing all my preseason cuts and signings and it crashed straight to the dashboard.
    I think using community rosters was the culprit due to the fact there was a bit where EA had issues letting people DL them? Who knows. At this point it really doesn’t matter. We are all playing the Beta build of this game anyways. The release date for Madden 22 is and always was October 22, the NFL just contractually forced EA to release in August. That’s my take on this issue anyhow. For this that say “I played the Beta”, that was more like the “alpha build” lol FWIW it’s a fun game, however I am not touching it until the actual release in October so all my gripes and complaints will be held until then.
    capa
    I am not an EA defender and do agree that they could be better at communicating, but I have worked for two of the largest most well known IT companies in the world and I can assure you, the days if going out and getting new headcount whenever you want or need are gone.
    Even, and maybe especially, the biggest corps are cutting back on resources or pushing to low cost countries. I can't tell you how many projects I had that missed critical dates due to the restrictions on hiring. :(
    C
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    I don’t even blame EA at this point. They are who they are. I blame the NFL. Not allowing more companies to develope is hurting the brand name. Sure, Madden generates good revenue, but not as much as it would with two more labels etc bringing in revenue along with it. Gives people more options to their perceived notion of how they want NFL portrayed. It was like the MLB2K vs Show way back when. I was one of the few who actually preferred MLB2K7. Loved it. The last MLB2K was also one of my favs. (The in between releases sucked, and pretty much sums up EA current track record)
    I know the Show folks would say I am a bastard child for saying that but it was just my preference, which the beauty of multi release titles. So thanks to the NFL, which can’t even get anthems and it’s own league right, we are robbed of this ability as consumers
    CM Hooe
    According to the notes, this update only changed behaviors of the players in deep third zones. So it depends on which area of Cover 3 you are having issues with.

    Does this patch apply to last gen (PS4)?
    Does last gen have same / similar coverage issues to current or are they more rooted in new gen's physics engine / player movement?
    Thanks!
    BadAssHskr
    Can't complain about the game play after this patch though. Played my home opener Jets vs Panthers last night, and a great game of football was was displayed.
    Ended up having 3 penalties generated.
    Anyhow, EA definitely has the game feel down pretty good with this one, no question about that. It always leaves me wanting to play more.

    3 penalties is nothing to celebrate. It doesn't even remotely represent the real NFL.
    kpeercy
    3 penalties is nothing to celebrate. It doesn't even remotely represent the real NFL.

    Some of you guys really know how to squeeze the fun out of a room. If he's happy with 3 penalties then he has every reason to celebrate.
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    therealsmallville
    Some of you guys really know how to squeeze the fun out of a room. If he's happy with 3 penalties then he has every reason to celebrate.
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    This has to be a joke, right? 3 penalties in a "simulation" of NFL football is cause to celebrate? Give me a break. I agree with you that this game could be good if they'd just fix that issue. But if they don't, it's unplayable to me. I don't care about any other garbage (equipment, blah, blah, blah). I'm all about gameplay and NFL football with 1-3 penalties a game is laughable.
    kpeercy
    This has to be a joke, right? 3 penalties in a "simulation" of NFL football is cause to celebrate? Give me a break. I agree with you that this game could be good if they'd just fix that issue. But if they don't, it's unplayable to me. I don't care about any other garbage (equipment, blah, blah, blah). I'm all about gameplay and NFL football with 1-3 penalties a game is laughable.
    I don't think you actually comprehended what he meant. He simply said that one of you guys really know how to knock everyone for their opinions. He said he was having fun, leave it at that.. it's not hard.
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    kpeercy
    This has to be a joke, right? 3 penalties in a "simulation" of NFL football is cause to celebrate? Give me a break. I agree with you that this game could be good if they'd just fix that issue. But if they don't, it's unplayable to me. I don't care about any other garbage (equipment, blah, blah, blah). I'm all about gameplay and NFL football with 1-3 penalties a game is laughable.

    Maybe you should spend your time playing something else, then? In regards to penalties, Madden has been this way on & off for the better part of 15 years now. The fact that they *should* be better is irrelevelent when faced with that reality. If you're buying a video game for a simulation of NFL football that has never once had penalties to the extent that you want, then at some point it's on you for continuing to play a series you're not happy about because you should know by now what you are getting year in and year out. Based on your criteria, as stated in your post, this game has been unplayable to you since at least the G.W. Bush administration. By all means, continue asking for it, but do not be surprised when you don't get it and don't ever tell someone they shouldn't celebrate their joy.
    If the guy you responded rudely to is happy with 3 penalties per game, then who are you to tell him he's wrong? You don't even know how long his quarters are, or what his settings are. Instead of ****ting on someone's happiness, maybe just ignore the post next time and move on.
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    kpeercy
    3 penalties is nothing to celebrate. It doesn't even remotely represent the real NFL.

    therealsmallville
    Some of you guys really know how to squeeze the fun out of a room. If he's happy with 3 penalties then he has every reason to celebrate.
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    I'm not happy with 3 penalties, I was just reporting what had happened. I'm still using default slider settings, and wasn't expecting to see a bunch of them after the patch.
    Still needs something done to improve this area.
    Best to argue with data and facts instead of yelling. Three is way too few.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/talkoffame/nfl/the-super-bowl-flag-fest
    There were 3,414 penalties assessed league-wide in 2019, just 85 off the record set in 2015. But in 2020 there were 584 fewer penalties assessed than in 2019. It was the fewest penalties in the NFL since 2008.
    There were an average of 13.4 penalties per game for 114.5 yards in 2019.

    The penalties dropped to 11.2 per game for 97.4 yards in 2020. The total penalty yardage assessed league-wide during the 2020 was the fewest since 2009.
    Started my franchise last night and ran Cover 3 a few times. Was disappointed to see on a comeback route my CB stopped playing the route, turned his hips and ran downfield 30 yards from the WR to cover grass. This allowed the CPU an easy big gain.
    I'm still seeing too often with all coverages where defenders will initially stick with a WR and then run off to cover grass. It happens a lot on the curls/hooks in the middle of the field. The LBs will initially stick with the TE or slot WR and then just sidestep off into the abyss and allow an easy completion.
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    ChicagoChris
    Best to argue with data and facts instead of yelling. Three is way too few.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/talkoffame/nfl/the-super-bowl-flag-fest
    There were 3,414 penalties assessed league-wide in 2019, just 85 off the record set in 2015. But in 2020 there were 584 fewer penalties assessed than in 2019. It was the fewest penalties in the NFL since 2008.
    There were an average of 13.4 penalties per game for 114.5 yards in 2019.

    The penalties dropped to 11.2 per game for 97.4 yards in 2020. The total penalty yardage assessed league-wide during the 2020 was the fewest since 2009.

    Did Clint mention this when he was lining up statistical figures Madden vs NFL??
    JKSportsGamer1984
    I keep hearing about the Xbox Series X completely shutting down on people. There's a thread on the NBA 2K forum with the same issue. Is this more of a Microsoft problem? I've never had any shutting off issues with my PS5.

    I'm just so exasperated at this point.. Super disappointed doesn't even come close to how I feel about this issue. First time I've EVER had this issue with ANY game on ANY console.EVER.
    Can't play a game at all. Shuts the brand new series x down after several mins of gameplay in the first quarter.
    I have and play all other games with zero issues.. Cold war, valhalla, doom eternal, gears 5, blah blah blah..
    It's JUST Madden 22 doing this for me. Grrrrr....
    On ps4 they've definitely cleaned up the physics a bunch especially on tackling. Also noticed less falling forward animation resulting from continuous tacklers getting different animations. Coverage is tighter too. Drags are better defended for sure. I'm anxious to dona 32 man solo franchise once the scouting drops and fatigue is fixed.
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    ChicagoChris
    Best to argue with data and facts instead of yelling. Three is way too few.
    https://www.si.com/nfl/talkoffame/nfl/the-super-bowl-flag-fest
    There were 3,414 penalties assessed league-wide in 2019, just 85 off the record set in 2015. But in 2020 there were 584 fewer penalties assessed than in 2019. It was the fewest penalties in the NFL since 2008.
    There were an average of 13.4 penalties per game for 114.5 yards in 2019.

    The penalties dropped to 11.2 per game for 97.4 yards in 2020. The total penalty yardage assessed league-wide during the 2020 was the fewest since 2009.

    I don't believe anyone was disputing data & facts, moreso how some people drain the fun out of others. That's all I was trying to say, at least. It's prevalent in every single thread, even the ones created to be positive, and is also why I disappear every year right around this time & don't return until the spring.
    Actually, I should take my own advice from earlier and stop expecting this place to change
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    OJsakila
    I'm just so exasperated at this point.. Super disappointed doesn't even come close to how I feel about this issue. First time I've EVER had this issue with ANY game on ANY console.EVER.
    Can't play a game at all. Shuts the brand new series x down after several mins of gameplay in the first quarter.
    I have and play all other games with zero issues.. Cold war, valhalla, doom eternal, gears 5, blah blah blah..
    It's JUST Madden 22 doing this for me. Grrrrr....

    Sorry to hear that man. Like I said, there's a thread on the NBA 2K forum saying the same issue is happening. That's why I asked if it could be a Microsoft issue since it's apparently happening to multiple games..Either way I hope it gets resolved for you Series X owners.
    Someone in this thread mentioned that fatigue should be tied penalties in some way, so the more fatigued a player is the more likely he is to commit penalties, and I think that's the best idea I've heard in a minute. Penalties would land on the shoulders of a coach (user) so they wouldn't be as random, which is why I think sports games in general shy away from making them happen a realistic amount of times.
    I think it's brilliant.
    I've never experienced the system shutdown, or never had any trouble connecting to their servers.
    If you literally can't play the game, delete the game then re-download it if you haven't already. Also do a reset on the Xbox itself.
    Just a couple suggestions.
    As far as penalties go, I see different ranges pretty much every game. I play 10 min with 13 sec, and acc clock. Most of the time anyway. And I usually get anywhere from 3-5. Sometimes more. Had a few games with like 7-9. One game I had 5 holding penalties between the two teams. I seem to get a lot of holding calls. I've also had roughing the passer happen a number of times from both me and the CPU, same with facemask. And I actually get PI calls here and there.
    However, I haven't seen a late hit call yet, but I did see an illegal forward pass one time on the CPU because he threw after crossing the line of scrimmage.
    Would I like more, of course. I like sim football. But here's the real reason they don't happen more. The average Madden player would get upset with too many penalties called against them. Especially after a big play. And yeah, you can say they should be playing on comp mode, but who knows how penalties are tied to gameplay and if they can even tune them for specific modes.
    Hopefully they will address it, but I wouldn't count on it.
    OJsakila
    I'm just so exasperated at this point.. Super disappointed doesn't even come close to how I feel about this issue. First time I've EVER had this issue with ANY game on ANY console.EVER.
    Can't play a game at all. Shuts the brand new series x down after several mins of gameplay in the first quarter.
    I have and play all other games with zero issues.. Cold war, valhalla, doom eternal, gears 5, blah blah blah..
    It's JUST Madden 22 doing this for me. Grrrrr....

    I’ve had the same issue only with Madden 21 and 22 since day one with my console in December. I couldn’t get through a game of 22 with they system turning itself off.
    Finally, I sent the Xbox in under warranty. I have not experienced a single crash since receiving it back for MS. I would recommend sending it in under warranty.
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    PVarck31
    I've never experienced the system shutdown, or never had any trouble connecting to their servers.
    If you literally can't play the game, delete the game then re-download it if you haven't already. Also do a reset on the Xbox itself.
    Just a couple suggestions.
    As far as penalties go, I see different ranges pretty much every game. I play 10 min with 13 sec, and acc clock. Most of the time anyway. And I usually get anywhere from 3-5. Sometimes more. Had a few games with like 7-9. One game I had 5 holding penalties between the two teams. I seem to get a lot of holding calls. I've also had roughing the passer happen a number of times from both me and the CPU, same with facemask. And I actually get PI calls here and there.
    However, I haven't seen a late hit call yet, but I did see an illegal forward pass one time on the CPU because he threw after crossing the line of scrimmage.
    Would I like more, of course. I like sim football. But here's the real reason they don't happen more. The average Madden player would get upset with too many penalties called against them. Especially after a big play. And yeah, you can say they should be playing on comp mode, but who knows how penalties are tied to gameplay and if they can even tune them for specific modes.
    Hopefully they will address it, but I wouldn't count on it.

    They can definitely tune the penalties per game mode & up the frequency. Takes about 5 minutes to tweak on PC using mods. Obviously it takes a little bit of testing to level & balance out the penalties, but it's very easy to accomplish. I remember yrs ago they based penalties frequency on 6 minute qtrs which I never agreed with. I mean too many & ppl would complain & to less ppl complain so lol...
    It's really about them not tuning the functionality of the penalty sliders. It would be win-win for everyone, unfortunately it's probably in the bottom 5 of things to do on the priority list every year.
    jfsolo
    It's really about them not tuning the functionality of the penalty sliders. It would be win-win for everyone, unfortunately it's probably in the bottom 5 of things to do on the priority list every year.

    Not even on the list because it’s mainly a mechanism used for Franchise as Comp/MUT play settings are locked in.
    TBH, Madden doesn’t want the User to have Customization ability, that’s why it’s the only sport that is so limited in this area.
    - Gameplay Sliders
    - Team Management Sliders
    - User defined Camera
    - Asset Customization
    OJsakila
    I'm just so exasperated at this point.. Super disappointed doesn't even come close to how I feel about this issue. First time I've EVER had this issue with ANY game on ANY console.EVER.
    Can't play a game at all. Shuts the brand new series x down after several mins of gameplay in the first quarter.
    I have and play all other games with zero issues.. Cold war, valhalla, doom eternal, gears 5, blah blah blah..
    It's JUST Madden 22 doing this for me. Grrrrr....

    So initially my ps4 went out, and I was looking to use my warranty to get another 4, thinking they would be more lucrative to get than a 5. Wrong. There just as sold out as the 5. There was no way to replace because of zero availability and no where, and I mean no where to purchase a 5.
    So I looked into xbox, and on there site they had the s model available. So I ordered, 2 days later we were gaming, everything seemed all good? Next morning (Friday) hmn trying to load mlb the show and check out stadium creator and the game? Freezes upon loading the tutorial. Hmn ok maybe just a glitch... try again after completely shutting down console boom same thing, freeze again! Ok maybe there working on something ..
    Let's load a regular game crash again..what in the world is going on.. ok frustrated lets turn on madden...ultimate team first, not loading, asking me who I am, even though its saying my gamer tag is signed in.
    Click the id, sweet its loading...wait what? Back to the main menu... this litterally went on from last Friday until this Thursday, alongside of me calling ea customer support which was an absolute joke and dealing with Microsoft trying several tactics of uninstalling, reinstalling, pulling out the cord of the back of the xbox, this morning I packed that bad boi up, shined that some... up! Turned it side ways and sent it straight up UPS candy... lmao
    Trust me I had to make a joke out this, because this week has been exhausting dealing with this. So currently I have no console or pc, set up, everything is in the cloud lol smh
    I do know ill just be waiting until a ps5 comes knocking, gotta smile through all this...
    I said that to say, dont sweat it, ish happens, yeah it sucks but things get better, hang in there.
    God bless everyone and stay safe 🙏 ❤
    MakaveliLPC
    Someone in this thread mentioned that fatigue should be tied penalties in some way, so the more fatigued a player is the more likely he is to commit penalties, and I think that's the best idea I've heard in a minute. Penalties would land on the shoulders of a coach (user) so they wouldn't be as random, which is why I think sports games in general shy away from making them happen a realistic amount of times.
    I think it's brilliant.

    This would be brilliant and penalize the player for not doing subs / managing fatigue.
    So it won’t happen.
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    oneamongthefence
    On ps4 they've definitely cleaned up the physics a bunch especially on tackling. Also noticed less falling forward animation resulting from continuous tacklers getting different animations. Coverage is tighter too. Drags are better defended for sure. I'm anxious to dona 32 man solo franchise once the scouting drops and fatigue is fixed.
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    VERY helpful post, so thanks!
    Was considering avoiding patches, bc coverage and general gameplay is already pretty nice on last gen, but the falling forward / physics improvements will make this patch worth a shot.
    You might want to consider dropping this in the old gen thread as well, I, for one, almost missed this here.
    KingV2k3
    VERY helpful post, so thanks!
    Was considering avoiding patches, bc coverage and general gameplay is already pretty nice on last gen, but the falling forward / physics improvements will make this patch worth a shot.
    You might want to consider dropping this in the old gen thread as well, I, for one, almost missed this here.
    Will do. Thanks for reminding me.
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    StormsWarning
    So initially my ps4 went out, and I was looking to use my warranty to get another 4, thinking they would be more lucrative to get than a 5. Wrong. There just as sold out as the 5. There was no way to replace because of zero availability and no where, and I mean no where to purchase a 5.
    So I looked into xbox, and on there site they had the s model available. So I ordered, 2 days later we were gaming, everything seemed all good? Next morning (Friday) hmn trying to load mlb the show and check out stadium creator and the game? Freezes upon loading the tutorial. Hmn ok maybe just a glitch... try again after completely shutting down console boom same thing, freeze again! Ok maybe there working on something ..
    Let's load a regular game crash again..what in the world is going on.. ok frustrated lets turn on madden...ultimate team first, not loading, asking me who I am, even though its saying my gamer tag is signed in.
    Click the id, sweet its loading...wait what? Back to the main menu... this litterally went on from last Friday until this Thursday, alongside of me calling ea customer support which was an absolute joke and dealing with Microsoft trying several tactics of uninstalling, reinstalling, pulling out the cord of the back of the xbox, this morning I packed that bad boi up, shined that some... up! Turned it side ways and sent it straight up UPS candy... lmao
    Trust me I had to make a joke out this, because this week has been exhausting dealing with this. So currently I have no console or pc, set up, everything is in the cloud lol smh
    I do know ill just be waiting until a ps5 comes knocking, gotta smile through all this...
    I said that to say, dont sweat it, ish happens, yeah it sucks but things get better, hang in there.
    God bless everyone and stay safe

    You will be a kid in a candy store when you eventually land a PS5.
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    StormsWarning
    So initially my ps4 went out, and I was looking to use my warranty to get another 4, thinking they would be more lucrative to get than a 5. Wrong. There just as sold out as the 5. There was no way to replace because of zero availability and no where, and I mean no where to purchase a 5.
    So I looked into xbox, and on there site they had the s model available. So I ordered, 2 days later we were gaming, everything seemed all good? Next morning (Friday) hmn trying to load mlb the show and check out stadium creator and the game? Freezes upon loading the tutorial. Hmn ok maybe just a glitch... try again after completely shutting down console boom same thing, freeze again! Ok maybe there working on something ..
    Let's load a regular game crash again..what in the world is going on.. ok frustrated lets turn on madden...ultimate team first, not loading, asking me who I am, even though its saying my gamer tag is signed in.
    Click the id, sweet its loading...wait what? Back to the main menu... this litterally went on from last Friday until this Thursday, alongside of me calling ea customer support which was an absolute joke and dealing with Microsoft trying several tactics of uninstalling, reinstalling, pulling out the cord of the back of the xbox, this morning I packed that bad boi up, shined that some... up! Turned it side ways and sent it straight up UPS candy... lmao
    Trust me I had to make a joke out this, because this week has been exhausting dealing with this. So currently I have no console or pc, set up, everything is in the cloud lol smh
    I do know ill just be waiting until a ps5 comes knocking, gotta smile through all this...
    I said that to say, dont sweat it, ish happens, yeah it sucks but things get better, hang in there.
    God bless everyone and stay safe 🙏 ❤

    StormsWarning -
    I haven’t been to your point of exhaustion only with PS4 Pro that sounds like a Jet Engine which I refuse to play and will be packaging that and turning that in along with some other systems whenever a PS5 becomes available in 2024 😂 - BUT have you thought of ordering an XBOX S? I got one in May & I love it! I’ve had no problems - I have MLB The Show & Madden and I’ve had no issues
    kpeercy
    Your penalty settings?
    I have penalties at 60 for holding false start offsides and forgot the other one at the top. PI is 99 and I have holding false start if I audible more than once semi regularly and have seen PI and roughing the passer called in multiple games. It's enough to not complain but less than NFL average per game. I play on All Pro default and just upped speed parity to 75 but had penalties before that.
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    OJsakila
    I'm just so exasperated at this point.. Super disappointed doesn't even come close to how I feel about this issue. First time I've EVER had this issue with ANY game on ANY console.EVER.
    Can't play a game at all. Shuts the brand new series x down after several mins of gameplay in the first quarter.
    I have and play all other games with zero issues.. Cold war, valhalla, doom eternal, gears 5, blah blah blah..
    It's JUST Madden 22 doing this for me. Grrrrr....

    It's definitely a bug within the game. It's causing the console to crash, your controller starts blinking in which you have to go through the monotonous motions of taking the battery out, put it back in, go up to the console, turn it back on.
    It doesn't happen all the time. Not sure why some people experience it and some reportedly do not. But this much is true. IT EXISTS. You know why? EA acknowledged it and stated they were going to address it in a patch mid October lol.
    I just wonder what type of internal damage will this cause to our consoles. I mean, couple years later, who knows. System stops working and we forget that issue with Madden constantly crashing it. Who's responsible for that? Pay 60 buck to make our consoles worse.
    PVarck31
    I've never experienced the system shutdown, or never had any trouble connecting to their servers.
    If you literally can't play the game, delete the game then re-download it if you haven't already. Also do a reset on the Xbox itself.

    What system are you running?
    I've tried doing all sorts of things including what you suggested and I have an Xbox One X. This is the only game where it makes my console crash like several others have reported. I have many games on there that I played and tested. Madden was the only one that was consistent with the crashing.
    MizzouRah
    I'm in Week 17 and the progressive fatigue has finally caught up to the CPU teams. Just played the Rams and Akers took about 5-8 snaps and never came back into the game.
    When I was on defense their DL were all doing the fatigue animation bobbing their heads. I only won 24-10 but they couldn't do much of anything on offense.
    This is disappointing it hasn't been fixed yet. I have three options I guess, shelve my CFM and wait on a fix, start another CFM and turn PF off until it's fixed or start killing the CPU teams as fatigue continues to get worse.
    I've read you can't even turn it off during a CFM and have the players recover their fatigue. :(

    What if instead of turning it off halfway through, you turn it ON halfway through?
    prey2god
    What system are you running?
    I've tried doing all sorts of things including what you suggested and I have an Xbox One X. This is the only game where it makes my console crash like several others have reported. I have many games on there that I played and tested. Madden was the only one that was consistent with the crashing.

    Sorry, I should have been more specific. Series X.
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    What if instead of turning it off halfway through, you turn it ON halfway through?

    I'm just restarting and turning it off until it's fixed. I'm growing very frustrated with M22.
    I wonder how widespread this console shutdown issue is. I mean it sound like it is Madden that's causing it. I haven't seen it, so I wonder if it's isolated or not.
    Either way, this is something EA should address because it seems like a real problem. Although, if they ignore it, it makes it ambiguous on whether it's their fault or not. Which is what I'm sure they want.
    Is anyone noticing that Cover 3 seems significantly worse after the patch?
    Playing on next gen. Reading that this as much an issue on current gen.
    Sent from my iPhone using Operation Sports
    It's interesting, as someone who is just playing Play Now games while waiting for the new scouting to be implemented, if it weren't for these OS threads I would know that there was anything wrong with the game besides of course some legacy issues that have existed for years. The games I'm playing vs the CPU are incredibly fun.
    Noticed an issue that I don't remember seeing pre-patch, Happens to both Human and CPU defenders playing the flats. If a receiver is in the flats and the QB run towards them scrambling then the defender playing the flat zone with the receiver turns around and runs up field allowing the QB to either scramble for easy yards or get an easy completion.
    my favourite is mlb man covers hb, hb blocks . in old days lber wpould have blitzed. also qb decides to run and the mlber backs off ... this with fred warner so its not like prc or awr are low
    PVarck31
    I wonder how widespread this console shutdown issue is. I mean it sound like it is Madden that's causing it. I haven't seen it, so I wonder if it's isolated or not.

    I’m glad I saw this post. This happened to me the other day. Was loading into a online franchise game, screen turned black and green for a few seconds, then the entire system shut down. Scared the heck out of me.
    I just picked up a Series S a few months ago, because my One bricked. I’m very happy with the S and playing the show and Madden. Thank goodness, it’s fine - but if it’s a Madden issue, it needs to be resolved.
    Romeclone
    I’m glad I saw this post. This happened to me the other day. Was loading into a online franchise game, screen turned black and green for a few seconds, then the entire system shut down. Scared the heck out of me.
    I just picked up a Series S a few months ago, because my One bricked. I’m very happy with the S and playing the show and Madden. Thank goodness, it’s fine - but if it’s a Madden issue, it needs to be resolved.

    Mine still happening randomly also during really critical moments during gameplay. It’s really killing this game for me at the moment where I just don’t even want to bother until they get this addressed. I’m not sure what type of irreparable harm it’s doing to my console. Shutting down like that can’t be good.
    KingV2k3
    Does this patch apply to last gen (PS4)?
    Does last gen have same / similar coverage issues to current or are they more rooted in new gen's physics engine / player movement?
    Thanks!

    Anyone have info about how this patch effected coverages on PS4? I know some might say to just get a PS5 but,not everyone can with prices continuing to increase on necessities. From what I've read Cover 3 really needed improvement and if playing zone defense has not improved then,why should any of us give EA our hard earned money if they can't or refuse to better something so fundamental to playing actual football,much less a supposed simulation of the NFL that EA proclaims the Madden series to be?
    Qcsports4
    Anyone have info about how this patch effected coverages on PS4? I know some might say to just get a PS5 but,not everyone can with prices continuing to increase on necessities. From what I've read Cover 3 really needed improvement and if playing zone defense has not improved then,why should any of us give EA our hard earned money if they can't or refuse to better something so fundamental to playing actual football,much less a supposed simulation of the NFL that EA proclaims the Madden series to be?

    I'm not so sure that ZC is a thing in Gen4, I know it's a thing with the newer consoles.
    Might be a good idea to check on that thread.
    https://forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/991009-madden-nfl-22-last-gen-impressions-thread.html
    canes21
    Noticed an issue that I don't remember seeing pre-patch, Happens to both Human and CPU defenders playing the flats. If a receiver is in the flats and the QB run towards them scrambling then the defender playing the flat zone with the receiver turns around and runs up field allowing the QB to either scramble for easy yards or get an easy completion.

    Click the R Stick (R3) button tamale defenders go after the QB. Just be aware that if the QB stays behind thebLOS he can throw to an open receiver.
    GridironGreat
    Click the R Stick (R3) button tamale defenders go after the QB. Just be aware that if the QB stays behind thebLOS he can throw to an open receiver.

    In 20, I believe at of you had a QB spy and clicked the stick, only the spy would rush. That's how I remember it but it has been a while. In 21 and 22 it sends both the spy and whoever is in the closest zone. Unfortunately the spy will NOT cross the Los to chase unless you do click the stick, so I've seen my spy standing 3 - 4 yards from a QB staring at him while the QB waits for a guy to come open.
    GridironGreat
    Click the R Stick (R3) button tamale defenders go after the QB. Just be aware that if the QB stays behind thebLOS he can throw to an open receiver.
    This is an issue for both CPU and User defenders, so I can click that to make it work for my defense, but it remains a problem for the CPU defense which is a bigger issue to me.
    I also generally only allow myself to use whatever mechanics the CPU also uses, so I appreciate your help, but I will live with my defenders running away from the QB since the CPU defenders do the same right now.
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