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EA Sports PGA TOUR to Include Brand New Swing Mechanics, Three Click Swing Returns

EA Sports PGA TOUR will include brand new swing mechanics, including the return of the three click swing.

Here’s a snip from the press release.

…EA SPORTS PGA TOUR players can also look forward to the return of fan favorite gameplay elements such as the three-click swing method which will make its return alongside analog and brand-new swing mechanics which will be detailed further in the coming months.

Also mentioned in the press release, players can play The Open Championship at The Home of Golf, The Old Course at St. Andrews Links.

Inspired by The Open’s rich history and historic 150th championship, EA SPORTS looks to its own long history of making golf video games since 1990 to inspire their next generation golf experience. Along with the ultra-realistic addition of the Old Course at St Andrews Links, EA SPORTS PGA TOUR will also render the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge in stunning next-gen visuals through the proprietary Frostbite engine.

EA announced in April that EA Sports PGA TOUR would feature all four majors. The Masters Tournament at Augusta National Golf Club, PGA Championship, U.S. Open Championship, and the Open Championship will be exclusive to the game.

The team also has an exclusive partnership with the PGA of America to allow players to virtually experience hoisting the historic Wanamaker Trophy, revel in the Champion’s Ceremony, play as or against past PGA Champions and compete on virtual renderings of the 2021 PGA Championship host course at Kiawah Island; and the 2022 host course at Southern Hills Country Club.

EA Sports PGA TOUR is scheduled to release in spring 2022 for PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X|S.

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  1. Press release.
    EA SPORTS PGA TOUR Will Feature “Golf’s Original Championship” in High Fidelity, Celebrating The Open’s Rich History
    Players Will Compete on The Old Course at St Andrews Links for the Chance to Win the Claret Jug and Champion Golfer of the Year Title
    REDWOOD CITY, CALIF. -- July 14, 2021 - Today, Electronic Arts Inc. (NASDAQ: EA) and The R&A announced their plans to celebrate the historic Championship’s 150th edition in EA SPORTS PGA TOUR. The Open Championship – Golf’s original Championship played on the ‘Home of Golf,’ the Old Course – will be featured in high fidelity through the return of the storied St Andrews Links in EA SPORTS PGA TOUR, celebrating huge milestones while honoring the course’s long history in the game when it releases in Spring 2022.
    Inspired by The Open’s rich history and historic 150th championship, EA SPORTS looks to its own long history of making golf video games since 1990 to inspire their next generation golf experience. In addition to playing the Old Course at St Andrews Links, EA SPORTS PGA TOUR players can also look forward to the return of fan favorite gameplay elements such as the three-click swing method which will make its return alongside analog and brand-new swing mechanics which will be detailed further in the coming months.
    “We could not be happier to partner with EA to bring golfers and players from all over the world to our celebration of The 150th Open via EA SPORTS PGA TOUR,” said Martin Slumbers, Chief Executive of The R&A. “EA SPORTS plays an important role in taking golf to a wider audience through its highly realistic and immersive game.”
    Steeped in tradition and over 160 years of golf history, crowning its first champion in 1860, The Open is known as golf’s original championship. The Championship celebrates its past while knowing that it has led to this step; commencing the next 160 years by bringing renowned players together once again for their chance to win the Claret Jug and the title of Champion Golfer of the Year.
    The Open will be just one of the majors players will experience in next-generation authenticity via EA’s Frostbite engine, adding to the extensive EA SPORTS history of creating best-in-class golf games. Along with the ultra-realistic addition of the Old Course at St Andrews Links, EA SPORTS PGA TOUR will also render the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge in stunning next-gen visuals through the proprietary Frostbite engine.
    EA SPORTS PGA TOUR is the exclusive home of all four of golf’s major championships: the Masters Tournament, PGA Championship, U.S. Open Championship, and The Open. In addition to playing the major championships, golf fans can also live out a legendary career as they authentically compete at THE PLAYERS Championship and FedExCup Playoffs, while experiencing the unique atmosphere and venues of each tournament.
    The last Hot Shots game not Everybody's Golf had an interesting variation on the click style. Glad to see it make it in the game however it is implemented. It would be nice if you can choose 3 click for swing and some type of analog similar to HB for putting.
    TheBleedingRed21
    EA just killing it. Thank god. So sick of 2K (HB Studios rather) and their new vision, they were so much better when the game initially launched (not gameplay wise of course)

    Agreed. 2k is awful pga tour wise. As just a golf game and course creator it is solid. As far a pga licenses go they failed big time.
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    Steve_OS
    EA SPORTS PGA TOUR players can also look forward to the return of fan favorite gameplay elements such as the three-click swing method which will make its return alongside analog and brand-new swing mechanics which will be detailed further in the coming months.

    This is really great to see.
    It's very smart to still support three click, and it's VERY good to hear there will be some "brand new swing mechanics" for Analog - given how sort of "meh" the Rory swing was.
    2K is probably going to need to add 3C I think.
    scagwi
    This is really great to see.
    It's very smart to still support three click, and it's VERY good to hear there will be some "brand new swing mechanics" for Analog - given how sort of "meh" the Rory swing was.
    2K is probably going to need to add 3C I think.

    Yes, very good to hear... Maybe some if the math is coming back. Like to hit a 80 percent shot it takes into account the analog stick like TW 14 did.
    Also wonder how they could utilize duel sense on ps5 controller... Maybe an OPTION to have the controller vibrate or something during huge putts to win or something.
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    VoltSwoosh
    Also wonder how they could utilize duel sense on ps5 controller... Maybe an OPTION to have the controller vibrate or something during huge putts to win or something.

    I have thought about that exact same thing after reading that I think a basketball game? maybe uses it for some aspects of "feeling your defender" and perhaps other elements?
    A lot of really cool new interactions and sensations and feedback are possible there. The only problem is that it's only something on the PS side for now, so I do wonder how much effort they'd put into that.
    scagwi
    I have thought about that exact same thing after reading that I think a basketball game? maybe uses it for some aspects of "feeling your defender" and perhaps other elements?
    A lot of really cool new interactions and sensations and feedback are possible there. The only problem is that it's only something on the PS side for now, so I do wonder how much effort they'd put into that.

    I don’t know if you remember but Rory 15 had ‘Bose heartbeat moments’ and the controller rumble felt just like a heartbeat.
    Even that during big putts would be a neat option. If executed properly and not for a 4 foot par putt on hole 3.
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    VoltSwoosh
    No royal st George’s. Ahhh maybe at least Troon

    I don't actually mind that Royal St. George's isn't in the game. If I had to pick only 2 Open rota courses, they'd be St. Andrews and Carnoustie, hands-down. Of course, this announcement suggests there's only 1 Open rota course, but whatever. Long way to go until next year.
    pietasterp
    I don't actually mind that Royal St. George's isn't in the game. If I had to pick only 2 Open rota courses, they'd be St. Andrews and Carnoustie, hands-down. Of course, this announcement suggests there's only 1 Open rota course, but whatever. Long way to go until next year.

    I see them adding another post launch... now free or not I don’t know but I see Royal Troon getting in.
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    "In addition to the Old Course itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge, which are two iconic elements of the grounds."
    LOL :D Who is writing this stuff, and who is it aimed at? That's like saying "in addition to the course at Pebble Beach itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Pebble Beach Clubhouse and hotel off of the 18th green and the big tree between 6 & 7, which are two iconic elements of the grounds". How is a stone bridge which is on the course itself a "feature" separate from the course? Or a building that doesn't even come into play that is off of 1-tee/18-green? If anything, it would make more sense to announce that the St Andrews Hotel is 'featured' in the game, since that building is actually in play on the course.
    So stupid.
    pietasterp
    "In addition to the Old Course itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge, which are two iconic elements of the grounds."
    LOL :D Who is writing this stuff, and who is it aimed at? That's like saying "in addition to the course at Pebble Beach itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Pebble Beach Clubhouse and hotel off of the 18th green and the big tree between 6 & 7, which are two iconic elements of the grounds". How is a stone bridge which is on the course itself a "feature" separate from the course? Or a building that doesn't even come into play that is off of 1-tee/18-green? If anything, it would make more sense to announce that the St Andrews Hotel is 'featured' in the game, since that building is actually in play on the course.
    So stupid.

    haha...seems written to include all the necessary marketing keywords, and to reach a certain word count!
    pietasterp
    "In addition to the Old Course itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge, which are two iconic elements of the grounds."
    LOL :D Who is writing this stuff, and who is it aimed at? That's like saying "in addition to the course at Pebble Beach itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Pebble Beach Clubhouse and hotel off of the 18th green and the big tree between 6 & 7, which are two iconic elements of the grounds". How is a stone bridge which is on the course itself a "feature" separate from the course? Or a building that doesn't even come into play that is off of 1-tee/18-green? If anything, it would make more sense to announce that the St Andrews Hotel is 'featured' in the game, since that building is actually in play on the course.
    So stupid.

    EA Sports next 'feature' article....
    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/836191855783352571/
    MrArlingtonBeach
    haha...seems written to include all the necessary marketing keywords, and to reach a certain word count!

    I thought that was strange. I would much rather of seen another player quote confirming another play in the game.
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    ‘Brand new swing mechanics’……?
    EA looking to evolve the analog swing.
    Hoping they get a club face angle feature in the game. Could easily simulate club face with the application of L2/R2 triggers whilst moving the analog stick back & through.
    Even pressure on L2/R2 at impact would result in a square club face. Excess pressure on L2 would open the face & similarly on R2 would shut the club face.
    RIFRIG
    ‘Brand new swing mechanics’……?
    EA looking to evolve the analog swing.
    Hoping they get a club face angle feature in the game. Could easily simulate club face with the application of L2/R2 triggers whilst moving the analog stick back & through.
    Even pressure on L2/R2 at impact would result in a square club face. Excess pressure on L2 would open the face & similarly on R2 would shut the club face.

    I'm all in for this sort of stuff as long as it's all optional and configurable.
    (which I'm sure it would be)
    I really loved how you could dial up the challenge and swing components on TW14. Go even further! Love it
    VoltSwoosh
    Didn’t they confirm the US Amateur would be in the game? What course would that be on ? Oakmont?
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    Yes, it's in. In TW 14, when you started your career and chose the US Am. as your starting point, I'm pretty sure it was held at Pinehurst No. 2.
    So for the new game, I guess it could be at Pebble?
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Yes, it's in. In TW 14, when you started your career and chose the US Am. as your starting point, I'm pretty sure it was held at Pinehurst No. 2.
    So for the new game, I guess it could be at Pebble?

    Is that where the us amateur is held in 2022?
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    VoltSwoosh
    Is that where the us amateur is held in 2022?
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    No, but unless they do announce Oakmont, none of the courses so far will be upcoming US Am hosts:
    Oakmont Country Club
    Ridgewood Country Club
    Cherry Hills Country Club
    Hazeltine National Golf Club
    The Olympic Club
    Merion Golf Club
    Oak Hill Country Club
    Oakmont was on Rory so.... easy bet it's going to be in just like Andrews. Think start of the US career was Pinehurst in TW14 too, in TW13 I vaguely remember starting at Crooked Stick. They can use whatever course to start with to qualify.
    bigkev
    Oakmont was on Rory so.... easy bet it's going to be in just like Andrews. Think start of the US career was Pinehurst in TW14 too, in TW13 I vaguely remember starting at Crooked Stick. They can use whatever course to start with to qualify.

    I was a believer it that method also.... until no mention of Royal Troon today. Now I’m not going to get my hopes up that we are getting all or most of the Rory 15 courses. I hope we do though
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    pietasterp
    "In addition to the Old Course itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Royal and Ancient Clubhouse and the Swilcan Bridge, which are two iconic elements of the grounds."
    LOL :D Who is writing this stuff, and who is it aimed at? That's like saying "in addition to the course at Pebble Beach itself, EA Sports PGA Tour will feature the Pebble Beach Clubhouse and hotel off of the 18th green and the big tree between 6 & 7, which are two iconic elements of the grounds". How is a stone bridge which is on the course itself a "feature" separate from the course? Or a building that doesn't even come into play that is off of 1-tee/18-green? If anything, it would make more sense to announce that the St Andrews Hotel is 'featured' in the game, since that building is actually in play on the course.
    So stupid.

    Considering how protective these courses are of their license, it's probably written purely for those people on some level.
    ChaseB
    Considering how protective these courses are of their license, it's probably written purely for those people on some level.

    Great guess at it. NBA2K22 isn’t much better LOL I went to see what’s new in it on the ps store and it basically said Play with all the nba teams stadiums and have the nba universe in your hands. Lolol we’ve had that since forever.
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    VoltSwoosh
    I was a believer it that method also.... until no mention of Royal Troon today. Now I’m not going to get my hopes up that we are getting all or most of the Rory 15 courses. I hope we do though

    I wouldn't read too much with no mention of Royal Troon today, there was no real reason to bring it. The Open won't be played every year at Andrews in the game. What we got out of today, Royal St George's won't be in the game. They will keep a lot of PR material for the months ahead. Thought they would bring back 3-click, HB doesn't have it. Teasing a new analog swing, now that's some meat.
    bigkev
    I wouldn't read too much with no mention of Royal Troon today, there was no real reason to bring it. The Open won't be played every year at Andrews in the game. What we got out of today, Royal St George's won't be in the game. They will keep a lot of PR material for the months ahead. Thought they would bring back 3-click, HB doesn't have it. Teasing a new analog swing, now that's some meat.

    I hope you are right and you very possibly are.
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    scagwi
    They could promote the parking lot and the bathrooms for all I care.
    I’m just pumped for the new game

    :lol:
    After you complete your round enjoy our built in mini-game where your player poops in authentic Royal and Ancient Clubhouse bathrooms.
    :lol:
    scagwi
    This is really great to see.
    It's very smart to still support three click, and it's VERY good to hear there will be some "brand new swing mechanics" for Analog - given how sort of "meh" the Rory swing was.
    2K is probably going to need to add 3C I think.

    They have said in the past that they would never add 3C.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Interestingly enough...Royal St George's has now be censored and is unsearchable in 2K21, according to someone who designed a version of it in game.

    Ahhh that’s disappointing. So your saying there’s a chance? LOL
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    VoltSwoosh
    Ahhh that’s disappointing. So your saying there’s a chance? LOL
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    I think you can still find it in 2K21 using "creative" search methods, or if you have it saved as a favorite! But other courses to get this treatment include Pebble, Augusta, St Andrews, so...
    MrArlingtonBeach
    I think you can still find it in 2K21 using "creative" search methods, or if you have it saved as a favorite! But other courses to get this treatment include Pebble, Augusta, St Andrews, so...

    Thank you, I’ve used a few of those tricks to find A****** N****** LOL It will be so nice to have the best looking, true Masters branding and atmosphere Masters tournament one click away in pga 22.
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    lowpaiddonkey10
    They have said in the past that they would never add 3C.

    True!
    I honestly don't care if they do or don't
    If they want to be fully feature competitive, they may have no choice now.
    This should be fun to watch (and great for us consumers!)
    EA golf and HB (and now 2K) golf have really never gone head to head yet.
    Rory was sort of already dying on the vine as the very first TGC1 got going.
    scagwi
    True!
    I honestly don't care if they do or don't
    If they want to be fully feature competitive, they may have no choice now.
    This should be fun to watch (and great for us consumers!)
    EA golf and HB (and now 2K) golf have really never gone head to head yet.
    Rory was sort of already dying on the vine as the very first TGC1 got going.

    Actually if you want to go wayyy back to the beginning 2K golf was THE GOLF CLUB as many of you know, it came out a year before EA SPORTS PGA TOUR 15 and actually beat it out in my opinion. EA went dormant band The Golf Club kept building until 2K bought them out. Going to be very interesting this time around as I don’t think EA Sports is messing around this time.
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    VoltSwoosh
    Actually if you want to go wayyy back to the beginning 2K golf was THE GOLF CLUB as many of you know, it came out a year before EA SPORTS PGA TOUR 15 and actually beat it out in my opinion. EA went dormant band The Golf Club kept building until 2K bought them out. Going to be very interesting this time around as I don’t think EA Sports is messing around this time.
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    That's the game I was referring to as TGC1
    Thanks for the reminder on dates - I didn't recall that much overlap.
    I don't really think Rory doing well or not or being cancelled had anything to do with TGC to be honest (not saying you said that).
    The drop off from TW14 to Rory was so severe that I think they shot their own foot frankly.
    TGC1 was "ok" - but I think both Rory and TGC1 were missing the mark completely of what someone coming from TW14 would be looking for. TGC was a completely different "casual golf" direction and Rory was just totally feature incomplete and lacking content (severely).
    scagwi
    That's the game I was referring to as TGC1
    Thanks for the reminder on dates - I didn't recall that much overlap.
    I don't really think Rory doing well or not or being cancelled had anything to do with TGC to be honest (not saying you said that).
    The drop off from TW14 to Rory was so severe that I think they shot their own foot frankly.
    TGC1 was "ok" - but I think both Rory and TGC1 were missing the mark completely of what someone coming from TW14 would be looking for. TGC was a completely different "casual golf" direction and Rory was just totally feature incomplete and lacking content (severely).

    Yes, I agree. EA shot themselves in the foot. I don’t think they anticipated how hard to would to get the foundation built on frostbite. I’ve also always wondered why Augusta did not renew.... Or did EA just not want to put that much money into the game?
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    VoltSwoosh
    I’ve also always wondered why Augusta did not renew.... Or did EA just not want to put that much money into the game?

    Almost certainly the latter.
    pietasterp
    Almost certainly the latter.

    Same. Surely the Tiger split would not impact Augustas decision of renewal? Side not I hope this game has weather options and rain. Nothing worse than 4 sunny rounds at St. Andrews in pga 15.
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    I have hope that St. Andrews will not be the only British Open rota course in the game. Here’s why, this is the wording they used when talking about the PGA Championship courses.. Play the U.S. Open Championship on courses like Torrey Pines and The Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts.... courses like .. of course pebble could be a us open venue but that also opens the door for the British open.
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    C.J.S.
    hope to hear some news that we can play challenge mode to unlock the created characters like in 2004-2005

    Like Edna MASTERSON?
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    Kind of show all the stuff EA did right thru the years. Some parts are not for everybody but some customers just love them. The Tiger and Legends challenges are some of them. I personally love them too, except for the mini Tiger stuff. No idea what EA will come up this time, can understand the concept of the Nightclub but it just wasn't for me.
    matt897
    Still so skeptical on this given how bad Rory was. People think 2K21 is unplayable. Rory was that x1000.

    Neither is unplayable, to me. I think 2K21 had amazing potential, coming out of the gate with a game that was good for all types of players - solid gameplay, PGA Tour career mode, course designer, etc. But then some cracks started to show...career mode is so glitched and not worth the effort, unreliable servers (a no-no when 99% of the game relies on them), scattered focus on what players actually want in the game (hot dog putters and oversized hats?). Then, they went ahead and changed how the swing worked 9-10 months after the game came out. Who does that?
    Rory came out with such limited content that it was done before it started. I still cannot believe they ever charged $60 for that game (I got it for like $10, and was happy with that). The gameplay could have used some more tweaking, but it still offered more than just one swing type. You could use 3-click if you wanted. 2K21 forces you to use their swing mechanic, no matter what.
    EA needs to show some of what their game is going to look and play like. They cannot wait until a week before release like 2K21 did to really show off the game. 2K21 had the advantage of being the only golf game on the block. EA needs to really bring it right from the get go - early and often.
    This is great for people that want it. I enjoyed the three click in Rory. With limited yardage and green grid turned off turned off, it was a challenge. Hopefully now that the majors are just about done, we maybe get a trailer next week. Does anyone know PGA Tour is even in the line up for EA Play?
    jbd345
    This is great for people that want it. I enjoyed the three click in Rory. With limited yardage and green grid turned off turned off, it was a challenge. Hopefully now that the majors are just about done, we maybe get a trailer next week. Does anyone know PGA Tour is even in the line up for EA Play?

    We possibly may see a mention on the 20th or the 22nd but nothing confirmed.
    EA schedule through July & up to main EA play date:-
    July 8 at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET: The Future of First-Person Shooters
    July 13 at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET: EA <3s Independent Studios
    July 19 at 4:00 p.m. PT / 7:00 p.m. ET: Madden NFL 22 All-Access: Scouting - How the Community is Shaping Madden NFL 22
    July 20 at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET: More EA SPORTS!
    July 22 at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET: EA Play Live main presentation
    Rory was far from unplayable for me. I played it for months...had fun with it. Yes, I got to the point where I mastered the game, but that can be said of any game, and any genre, if you play it long enough. There were silly pieces of Rory, but I didn't play them. I thought it was an entertaining fun game that suited my personal needs.
    No title is all things for all people. The old saying I guess..."one man's steak is another man's poison."
    :)
    C
    capa
    Rory was far from unplayable for me. I played it for months...had fun with it. Yes, I got to the point where I mastered the game, but that can be said of any game, and any genre, if you play it long enough. There were silly pieces of Rory, but I didn't play them. I thought it was an entertaining fun game that suited my personal needs.
    No title is all things for all people. The old saying I guess..."one man's steak is another man's poison."
    :)
    C

    I definitely wasn’t impressed with the game when it released but I definitely had high expectations for it being the first next generation golf game, that being said it released only 8 months after the new hardware so very little development time was spent on it.
    Biggest issues for me are the timing bubble for analog & the three click meter slapped straight across the on screen golfer.
    I shelved it for nearly six years but since 2K broke their game I’ve been playing it regularly & for some reason I’m having a good time with it.
    RIFRIG
    I definitely wasn’t impressed with the game when it released but I definitely had high expectations for it being the first next generation golf game, that being said it released only 8 months after the new hardware so very little development time was spent on it.
    Biggest issues for me are the timing bubble for analog & the three click meter slapped straight across the on screen golfer.
    I shelved it for nearly six years but since 2K broke their game I’ve been playing it regularly & for some reason I’m having a good time with it.

    Same. I think TW 14 spoiled us with all its content. I mean, we even had Augusta 1934 version for goodness sake. Then we went straight to 8 real courses at release.
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    RIFRIG
    I definitely wasn’t impressed with the game when it released but I definitely had high expectations for it being the first next generation golf game, that being said it released only 8 months after the new hardware so very little development time was spent on it.
    Biggest issues for me are the timing bubble for analog & the three click meter slapped straight across the on screen golfer.
    I shelved it for nearly six years but since 2K broke their game I’ve been playing it regularly & for some reason I’m having a good time with it.

    EA really needs to go back to the old bar on the bottom for 3 click. No shame in doing it old school because the way they did it in Rory just cluttered up the screen.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    EA really needs to go back to the old bar on the bottom for 3 click. No shame in doing it old school because the way they did it in Rory just cluttered up the screen.

    I would like a three click system where it was meterless. A bit complex for strike but a button press to initiate golfers backswing, another button press at required swing length and then maybe a timing bubble offset in the hud to dictate face angle with a third press.
    RIFRIG
    I would like a three click system where it was meterless. A bit complex for strike but a button press to initiate golfers backswing, another button press at required swing length and then maybe a timing bubble offset in the hud to dictate face angle with a third press.

    I would also like to see something like this.
    It'd be interesting to see how many three click enthusiasts would really still be into that swing method if they didn't have the hyper precise meter to gauge everything.
    I've always suspected those folks like that "game within the game" involving the meter --- more so than having a realistic way to recreate golf in the digital realm.
    The meters are way too precise. Golf isn't like that.
    scagwi
    I would also like to see something like this.
    It'd be interesting to see how many three click enthusiasts would really still be into that swing method if they didn't have the hyper precise meter to gauge everything.
    I've always suspected those folks like that "game within the game" involving the meter --- more so than having a realistic way to recreate golf in the digital realm.
    The meters are way too precise. Golf isn't like that.

    I love analog myself, but Rory 15 was wayyy too simple. No feel with the analog. Just take it back and flick it and you got a good shot.
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    scagwi
    I would also like to see something like this.
    It'd be interesting to see how many three click enthusiasts would really still be into that swing method if they didn't have the hyper precise meter to gauge everything.
    I've always suspected those folks like that "game within the game" involving the meter --- more so than having a realistic way to recreate golf in the digital realm.
    The meters are way too precise. Golf isn't like that.

    I agree but part of that is because analog swings (using standard controller thumbsticks) just aren't accurate enough. In real life, I can swing a club halfway back, or 3/4 back, or 1/3 back for a punch, etc., but with analog thumbsticks, there just isn't a way to reliably do that because there's too much "dead zone" etc. Maybe the meters on 3-click swings are too accurate, but they aren't that much more removed from reality than the standard analog swings in most golf games. I'd say about the only exception to this was Links 2004 on the original XBox, and I'm not sure what they did differently in that game, but the analog swing there just felt better/more realistic.
    VoltSwoosh
    I love analog myself, but Rory 15 was wayyy too simple. No feel with the analog. Just take it back and flick it and you got a good shot.

    Agreed. It also didn't help that every shot was a "full swing" with the sticks. If you just aimed and clubbed appropriately, the game never made you take a half-swing or 3/4 swing or anything - just back 100% until the green bubble filled the circle, then forward as fast/straight as you can. It might be one of the worst implementations of an analog swing in a golf game that I can remember.
    scagwi
    I would also like to see something like this.
    It'd be interesting to see how many three click enthusiasts would really still be into that swing method if they didn't have the hyper precise meter to gauge everything.
    I've always suspected those folks like that "game within the game" involving the meter --- more so than having a realistic way to recreate golf in the digital realm.
    The meters are way too precise. Golf isn't like that.

    10 years ago I would agree totally with you but since I am now 69 my hands and reflexes have slowed enough to make 3 click challenging enough. I am still good enough to score par or slightly under using Master in HB's game. Mid '60's using Pro.
    They could make the 3 click swing easy or extremely difficult depending upon the size of the sweet spot and the speed of the meter.
    pietasterp
    I agree but part of that is because analog swings (using standard controller thumbsticks) just aren't accurate enough. In real life, I can swing a club halfway back, or 3/4 back, or 1/3 back for a punch, etc., but with analog thumbsticks, there just isn't a way to reliably do that because there's too much "dead zone" etc. Maybe the meters on 3-click swings are too accurate, but they aren't that much more removed from reality than the standard analog swings in most golf games. I'd say about the only exception to this was Links 2004 on the original XBox, and I'm not sure what they did differently in that game, but the analog swing there just felt better/more realistic.

    Different in every game for sure.
    I know that in Perfect Golf they really nailed the controller swing.
    Partial power can be done, but it is touchy and requires lots of feel and experience to be consistently any good at it (just like real golf).
    Hoping for good things on the new game.
    pietasterp
    I agree but part of that is because analog swings (using standard controller thumbsticks) just aren't accurate enough. In real life, I can swing a club halfway back, or 3/4 back, or 1/3 back for a punch, etc., but with analog thumbsticks, there just isn't a way to reliably do that because there's too much "dead zone" etc. Maybe the meters on 3-click swings are too accurate, but they aren't that much more removed from reality than the standard analog swings in most golf games. I'd say about the only exception to this was Links 2004 on the original XBox, and I'm not sure what they did differently in that game, but the analog swing there just felt better/more realistic.
    Agreed. It also didn't help that every shot was a "full swing" with the sticks. If you just aimed and clubbed appropriately, the game never made you take a half-swing or 3/4 swing or anything - just back 100% until the green bubble filled the circle, then forward as fast/straight as you can. It might be one of the worst implementations of an analog swing in a golf game that I can remember.

    You put it into better words than I’ve been trying to, thanks
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    So you guys, in real life, can take a given club and make it precisely go "68% of full power" or "39% of what would be a full swing"?
    I think we are being too hard on some of the analog swings out there.
    Very hyper specific partial power is tricky to do consistently and accurately in real life - particularly at certain ranges of the power possibilities and with certain clubs -- with a wide range of ways for that to go wrong also.
    That's my issue with click meter swings.
    The specificity is too much and not realistic.
    scagwi
    So you guys, in real life, can take a given club and make it precisely go "68% of full power" or "39% of what would be a full swing"?
    I think we are being too hard on some of the analog swings out there.
    Very hyper specific partial power is tricky to do consistently and accurately in real life - particularly at certain ranges of the power possibilities and with certain clubs -- with a wide range of ways for that to go wrong also.
    That's my issue with click meter swings.
    The specificity is too much and not realistic.

    They can do a lot to vary your result with 3 click. But they need to customize the experience to what you want. I do not want to shoot 90 after playing the game for a month.
    scagwi
    So you guys, in real life, can take a given club and make it precisely go "68% of full power" or "39% of what would be a full swing"?

    Well, not exactly of course. But I can hit a PW 20, 50, 75, or 110 by basically making the same downswing and adjusting only the length of my backswing (and also adjusting the ball position in my stance). Pro golfers can get a lot more accurate than that by adjusting their swings with the same club. If you listen to Bryson DeChambeau, he claims his putting stroke is exactly calculated to a single digit %number of backswing (translated to inches or whatever), so maybe you can only use 3-click if you play as Bryson. ;)
    scagwi

    I think we are being too hard on some of the analog swings out there.
    Very hyper specific partial power is tricky to do consistently and accurately in real life - particularly at certain ranges of the power possibilities and with certain clubs -- with a wide range of ways for that to go wrong also.
    That's my issue with click meter swings.
    The specificity is too much and not realistic.

    lowpaiddonkey10
    They can do a lot to vary your result with 3 click. But they need to customize the experience to what you want. I do not want to shoot 90 after playing the game for a month.

    I understand the point about hyper-specificity of 3-click, and it is a valid criticism. I would offer 2 counter-points in favor of 3-click:
    1) I would argue you can't hit exactly 68% (or any number you want) on any 3-click I've ever played - it's not granular enough and the meter moves sufficiently quickly on any difficulty level that hitting an exact number is hard, for the same reason hitting the 'straight hit' line at the bottom is hard.
    And even if you could hit an exact number you wanted, that still doesn't account for all of the variables like wind and slope and elevation and lie that should be a part of the game. You wouldn't be able to exactly calculate how much the rough is going to take off of your shot, how much a 6 MPH quartering wind is going to affect your shot, etc. So the precision is only really an issue if you're in an indoor driving range setting.
    2) It's easy enough to make the 3-click swings such that the exact point you stop the backswing at is not a specific %, but a rough % (e.g. make it less granular so that each point in the swing represents greater than 1% of the total swing, or a cloud of point-probabilities approximating that point in a golf swing). It wouldn't surprise me if the swings are already programmed that way.
    But ultimately, like all of real golf, it's a 'feel' thing. I like the idea of only being able to use 3-click if you play with DeChambeau, though....
    bigkev
    Lots of good idea but if not enough players are using it, it will disappear just like True Aim and the diagonal swing in TW14.

    Honestly anything deeper than Rory 15 will be an improvement. Game was so shallow. I’m amazed sometimes EA even shipped it. It was definitely not ready.
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    VoltSwoosh
    Honestly anything deeper than Rory 15 will be an improvement. Game was so shallow. I’m amazed sometimes EA even shipped it. It was definitely not ready.
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    I know, right?
    Did it even need a BluRay?
    Seems like it could have fit on a CD-ROM with how shallow it was
    :D
    scagwi
    I know, right?
    Did it even need a BluRay?
    Seems like it could have fit on a CD-ROM with how shallow it was
    :D

    Kinda random but last year I found it at Goodwill for $2. Looks like GameStop had dropped it off. I had no idea the value was high and listed it for $50 on eBay and it sold almost instantly. One of my crazier goodwill stories.
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    VoltSwoosh
    Kinda random but last year I found it at Goodwill for $2. Looks like GameStop had dropped it off. I had no idea the value was high and listed it for $50 on eBay and it sold almost instantly. One of my crazier goodwill stories.
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    Wow!
    Can it just not be purchased anywhere anymore?
    I'd gift someone my digital copy if I could
    scagwi
    Wow!
    Can it just not be purchased anywhere anymore?
    I'd gift someone my digital copy if I could

    Well, obviously it’s no longer on any digital stores but I see it in GameStop once in a while, I think it was just because it was the last ea golf game. Granted this was last year but maybe people are hungry for ea golf.
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    scagwi
    I would also like to see something like this.
    It'd be interesting to see how many three click enthusiasts would really still be into that swing method if they didn't have the hyper precise meter to gauge everything.
    I've always suspected those folks like that "game within the game" involving the meter --- more so than having a realistic way to recreate golf in the digital realm.
    The meters are way too precise. Golf isn't like that.

    Late to the party but that's the point! The point is the precision with accurate strikes and the penalty when missing. I adore 3-click meters. A swing mechanic doesn't need to be like real golf, it doesn't need to be whatever someone wants to call a simulation, and I don't certainly agree waggling analog sticks is any more of a golf recreation than a meter. What a swing mechanic needs to be is fun and reasonably challenging.
    I'm glad EA added both systems. The Show has like a hundred different pitching systems because they understand different players like different things and wanted to make users happy. I still can't believe 2k shut out any potential audience refusing to add a meter to their game.
    Will I Am
    If they have 3 click I hope they have the delay thing where you enter your clicks then your golfer swings. Links had that I believe?

    I totally agree with this. I'm a bit of a golf nerd but I love watching good golf swings, and going way back to the godfather of all modern golf games (Leaderboard Golf), the on-screen characters have always had silky-smooth swings which I simply enjoy watching, and am unable to if I'm focusing on the swing input mechanic on the controller.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    The last Hot Shots game not Everybody's Golf had an interesting variation on the click style. Glad to see it make it in the game however it is implemented. It would be nice if you can choose 3 click for swing and some type of analog similar to HB for putting.

    i think i know what you mean, i need to look at that.
    As long as it is not just another arcade game and you need actual skill. That is why I have always loved 2K/ Have played it almost every day for 4 years and have only some issues with game play. Not a fan of 3-click at all but it would get rid of cheaters . . . until they figure it out.
    The 3 click would SUCK. In 2K you watch the golfer - 3 click you watch the meter.
    The issue will be not being able to make amazing courses - how much will new courses cost and how many will there be. Will TGC Tours (an amazing group of 2000 players on the tours) do.
    I'll certainly buy it but I'm not too excited - they pretty much killed every other iteration of golf they have ever created. RORY made me quit vidro golf it was so hideous.
    I'll miss Divot Derby - the greatest fun game ever.
    Grinder12000
    As long as it is not just another arcade game and you need actual skill. That is why I have always loved 2K/ Have played it almost every day for 4 years and have only some issues with game play. Not a fan of 3-click at all but it would get rid of cheaters . . . until they figure it out.
    The 3 click would SUCK. In 2K you watch the golfer - 3 click you watch the meter.
    The issue will be not being able to make amazing courses - how much will new courses cost and how many will there be. Will TGC Tours (an amazing group of 2000 players on the tours) do.
    I'll certainly buy it but I'm not too excited - they pretty much killed every other iteration of golf they have ever created. RORY made me quit vidro golf it was so hideous.
    I'll miss Divot Derby - the greatest fun game ever.

    Rory was terrible i agree, but 2k21 isn't that good either. The swing is tempo based and to fast. It's not real time. the tempo swing idea doesn't even resemble a real swing. The faster your club head speed the further the ball goes IRL, in 2k21 it goes left. No parcel shots either because it's like a 2 click swing using a stick. The visuals are last gen barely any animations and the camera work, commentary, presentation in general is weak. IMO their isn't a good golf game on PS4.
    Grinder12000
    As long as it is not just another arcade game and you need actual skill. That is why I have always loved 2K/
    I'll miss Divot Derby - the greatest fun game ever.

    Does not compute...
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Does not compute...

    LOL. Yea. Divot Derby is not golf but more Arcade-ish for sure. I win more then I lose. 28-116 lifetime but 17 wins in last in last 38. Still fun though
    I’ve played 3 click for decades and watching a meter is not golf. As I said I’ll buy the EA to see what it’s like but 2K you actually need some skill.
    Let’s see how much we will have to spend for new courses as they need more then 50 in year 1
    Grinder12000
    LOL. Yea. Divot Derby is not golf but more Arcade-ish for sure. I win more then I lose. 28-116 lifetime but 17 wins in last in last 38. Still fun though
    I’ve played 3 click for decades and watching a meter is not golf. As I said I’ll buy the EA to see what it’s like but 2K you actually need some skill.
    Let’s see how much we will have to spend for new courses as they need more then 50 in year 1

    I can tell you already the EA PGA 22 game will not have anywhere near 50 courses even if DLC is available.
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    VoltSwoosh
    I can tell you already the EA PGA 22 game will not have anywhere near 50 courses even if DLC is available.
    Sent from my iPhone 12 Pro Max

    Should have about as many as the last 2 Tiger games. Like 25 something like that. TGC will always have more quantity.

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