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PGA TOUR 2K21 Video - Cover Athlete Justin Thomas and WWE Superstar The Miz

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PGA TOUR 2K21 Video - Cover Athlete Justin Thomas and WWE Superstar The Miz

PGA TOUR 2K21 cover athlete Justin Thomas and WWE Superstar, Mike “The Miz” Mizanin discuss quite a few various golf topics, in the latest video.

There are a few quick glimpses of various MyPLAYER builds, customized gear and clothing, but not much else for now. Check out the video below, along with some screenshots captured from the video.

PGA TOUR 2K21 will include 15 licensed PGA TOUR courses, each of which were scanned using cutting-edge technology to bring the fairways, greens, bunkers, trees, lakes and ponds to life. Players can also trick out their own greens and fairways with thousands of custom options in the Course Designer.

PGA TOUR 2K21 is scheduled to release on August 21 for the PlayStation 4, Xbox One, PC (via Steam), Nintendo Switch and Google Stadia.

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  1. Well, it's very clear they are looking to draw in that casual crowd that we've talked about on here quite a bit.
    The only thing they really talked about in relation to the 2K21 game was the player creation/customization. Everything else was just fluff and not even related to the game itself. However, JT briefly discussed what sounds like the career mode. At the 1:58 mark of the video, he talks about hoping that players have a hard time getting past him at the "final stages". And it's a "fun process". Not much, but something.
    Since this is still early on in the marketing process for the game, it's not surprising. But I think everyone is hoping to get more specific details about the game and game modes, as well as seeing some actual gameplay at some point soon here, too.
    I could see more of a graphical improvement with this video. It gave us longer looks a some of the camera positions than the trailer. I thought the rough looked more organic and fluid and I did see a hint of less vivid transitions between light and heavy rough.
    The Miz (whom I'd never heard of before yesterday) seemed to be a golfer and paved the way for himself to get some practice time in with 2K21 so he can play Justin in a live match later. If they really want to promote the game and draw in some new fans, a live match streamed between those two be a good way to do it. It would also help us hardcore guys get some of the answers we seek about gameplay.
    OnlookerDelay with the YouTube firsty on that video!
    One positive from the video (although the animations still looked like crap to me): the color palette was much brighter, which I absolutely love. I used to complain about this on the Tiger Woods games incessantly (to no avail, obviously), but I always felt like the color palette - in particular the green colors - were much too dark overall. The games looked like they were constantly an overcast day to me. It's a minor nit-pick but it did bug the living bejesus out of me, because when I think of golf, I think of bright colors and sunshine. Not every day of course, and you want a variety of weather conditions (hint), but the default sunny day should look and feel like it. At least this trailer had some brighter overall green colors, which was nice. So it's got that goin' for it....
    Any word on the gameplay changes yet?
    I can't keep up with all this, but "slight graphical bump" wasn't on my bingo card of what was needed to get me interested.
    That's a "nice to have" for sure, but not compelling if the swing, physics, shot outcomes -- basically "gameplay"-- is where ones concerns were/are.
    scagwi
    Any word on the gameplay changes yet?
    I can't keep up with all this, but "slight graphical bump" wasn't on my bingo card of what was needed to get me interested.
    That's a "nice to have" for sure, but not compelling if the swing, physics, shot outcomes -- basically "gameplay"-- is where ones concerns were/are.

    Nope....the only game content that was discussed really in any way, shape, or form was the MyPlayer customization and a sliver of a mention of playing against Justin Thomas in the later stages of what I assume to be the career mode.
    scagwi
    Any word on the gameplay changes yet?
    I can't keep up with all this, but "slight graphical bump" wasn't on my bingo card of what was needed to get me interested.
    That's a "nice to have" for sure, but not compelling if the swing, physics, shot outcomes -- basically "gameplay"-- is where ones concerns were/are.

    It looks like the same gameplay, maybe better graphic and more contents. I have very low expectation that we will see much difference in gameplay. Maybe most of the bugs in the game will still be there too.
    bigkev
    It looks like the same gameplay, maybe better graphic and more contents. I have very low expectation that we will see much difference in gameplay. Maybe most of the bugs in the game will still be there too.

    Me too on the low expectations part.
    I guess they aren't losing anything with me though as I wasn't a 2019 buyer either..
    Who knows - Maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised when it releases..
    For now PG and TW14 combo covers my needs.
    There was nothing particularly substantive in the video, but from what little they showed, the gameplay is looking identical to 2019. That should be the baseline assumption, I think, barring some other (surprising) news.
    pietasterp
    There was nothing particularly substantive in the video, but from what little they showed, the gameplay is looking identical to 2019. That should be the baseline assumption, I think, barring some other (surprising) news.

    There was nothing there that I could draw any conclusions about the gameplay on. I got the feeling that they may have sped some sections of those clips up in the interest of time. I don't have a lot of expectations for radical changes to the swing mechanic, but puhleeeeze, for the love of the game... change the calculation for a "Perfect/Slow" swing tempo such that it produces a WEAK fade (although it should really be a push not a fade, but they're not going to go into that sort of depth in core changes with this edition), not a POWER fade!! I still blow a cork every time that happens; it totally defies terrestrial physics!....
    Hmm..
    Color me "meh".
    This maybe looks better than an upscaled TW14 -- mayyybe
    (Reminder - TW14 ran on hardware that was first released in 2006)
    This is pulled from the video. I'm aware that the still shots look better - they always do - for every game.
    scagwi
    Hmm..
    This is pulled from the video. I'm aware that the still shots look better - they always do - for every game.

    Still shots look a lot better than this, especially since it's taken from a 1080p (at best) video with Depth of Field enabled (which I always disable). I'll agree with you that the player models from this game, even if they're still images at 4K, aren't up to the standards we saw from Tiger Woods PGA Tour 12 - 14, but this image you've pulled out of the video isn't one I would use to make comparisons from.
    OnlookerDelay
    Still shots look a lot better than this, especially since it's taken from a 1080p (at best) video

    But I’m comparing to TW 14 - which ran at 720p - on 14 year old hardware.
    (Even simple 1080p would be upscaling for TW14)
    Does it matter though? If it plays well, graphics shouldn’t matter. maybe I’m just in the minority for that. I hated frostbite in Rory. Yea it looked pretty, but gameplay was meh.
    jbd345
    Does it matter though? If it plays well, graphics shouldn’t matter. maybe I’m just in the minority for that. I hated frostbite in Rory. Yea it looked pretty, but gameplay was meh.

    I agree totally - Gameplay is king.
    I was just commenting on the graphics because it's about all they are giving us to comment on right now.
    (I also still think it's sad that this isn't a full blown new engine and entity. It's amazing how quick everyone dropped their expectations around that.)
    jbd345
    Does it matter though? If it plays well, graphics shouldn’t matter. maybe I’m just in the minority for that. I hated frostbite in Rory. Yea it looked pretty, but gameplay was meh.

    Oh I'm the same way, that's why I'm still playing TW14 even after all those years. TGC can keep their power fade and their lousy career mode, it won't bother me much.
    jbd345
    Does it matter though? If it plays well, graphics shouldn’t matter. maybe I’m just in the minority for that. I hated frostbite in Rory. Yea it looked pretty, but gameplay was meh.

    It does matter to me, if I'm being honest. Yes, gameplay trumps all, I don't think anyone would argue with that (least of all in this forum!). But visuals are a big part of games, and golf in particular, since the courses and atmosphere are a huge part of the sport. I would argue graphics matter much less in football, baseball, or hockey, since all the playing fields are essentially uniform anyway (e.g. 100-yards long, same white lines, etc).
    But in golf, it makes a huge difference if the cliffs off of the side of #8 at Pebble Beach look realistic or not, or if the church pew bunkers at Oakmont are realistically rendered or not. It definitely makes a difference to me if the only character in the whole game looks realistic and swings the club in a realistic-looking way.
    Is it the most important thing in the entire game? No. But it's not the least important aspect, either, in my opinion. Otherwise, I would be perfectly happy to still be playing Links 386 Pro (which, I kind of would be if it ran on modern hardware).
    scagwi
    But I’m comparing to TW 14 - which ran at 720p - on 14 year old hardware.
    (Even simple 1080p would be upscaling for TW14)

    I'm finding it difficult to contextualize these two for comparisons. There's no doubt in my mind that the player models in Tiger Woods 12 - 14 look better than what we have currently in TGC 2019, even in 4K. I just know that the screen you pulled from the You Tube video, with its resolution, Depth of Field blurring, and video compression doesn't look very much like what I've got on my 4K display on the XBox One X while playing that same hole in TGC 2019.
    I've grabbed a screen of my player, on the same hole with the same backdrop in 4K, with DOF off, on my One X and uploaded it to One Drive so I can post it here for comparison. Either I've done a brain dump and forgotten how to use One Drive, or it hasn't uploaded from my XBox One X to One Drive yet... it's not in the folder. Even the player model in the screen I captured from the older game looks better than what you pulled from the video of the new game, but it's more down to the medium, not the actual in game look.
    I'll keep checking back to see if it's uploaded, or go back and double check my process to make sure I did it right. I think the difference is pretty significant, although I'll admit it's not what I would expect for a player model in a current gen game.
    One thing that did catch my eye as I played the back nine at the official Sawgrass course in the game to get to 17 was how splendid a job HB Studios did in capturing it. It clearly has access to a wider array of assets than the user creation tool affords through themes, but I gotta give 'em credit, they used the assets wisely in this Sawgrass course... it's a beauty!
    scagwi
    Totally off the wall question that just dawned on me when looking at TW14 footage.
    Does 2K21 have some female Pro golfers?

    It hasn't been mentioned. They don't have an LPGA license. I guess they could acquire some licenses with a few featured LPGA TOUR players, but I'm not sure it would fit their PGA Career mode. I'll just say I'll be surprised if they do have them.
    OnlookerDelay
    Here's a link to a more in-depth, game related interview with Justin Thomas from RealSport. Justin admits in this interview that he actually hasn't played 2K21 yet, but he's seen it and knows of all its features.
    https://realsport101.com/misc/is-pga-tour-2k21-on-next-gen-ps5-xbox-series-x-backward-compatibility-smart-delivery-wishlist-release-date-more/

    Is that the correct link? When I go to it, I don't see anything about an interview with Justin Thomas...just some random points abut 2K21 potentially being on the next gen consoles.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Is that the correct link? When I go to it, I don't see anything about an interview with Justin Thomas...just some random points abut 2K21 potentially being on the next gen consoles.

    When you scroll down, you don't see the video window for the interview? It's not right at the top.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Hate to be that guy, but TW 14 actually had the LPGA license, and you could play in an LPGA career mode with a created female golfer!

    LOL... shows how much attention I paid to the career mode of TW 14! Honestly though, I didn't play that much of any mode in Tiger 14, but that was mostly down to my intolerance of Follow camera. I wish I could overcome that, but each new game that comes along I try the follow cam in it just for kicks and it doesn't float my boat. I'd still be playing TW 14 today if it had the True-Aim camera of TW 11, 12, and 13.
    Thanks for setting the record straight on this. I'll go back and edit the original post.
    OnlookerDelay
    There's no doubt in my mind that the player models in Tiger Woods 12 - 14 look better than what we have currently in TGC 2019, even in 4K.

    Agreed
    My point about 720p and why the quality of the 2K21 video didn't really matter is that the quality of the video was at/above the native rendering ability of TW14 anyways and thus the comparison was apt.
    Obviously at 4k, one would need to have 4k upscaled TW14 which I hope we have at some point, but don't yet, with RPCS3.
    But back to the top - no doubt about the player models. The swings and the modeling work are so so good in TW series. It's a high bar for 2K/HB to match that.
    scagwi
    Agreed
    My point about 720p and why the quality of the 2K21 video didn't really matter is that the quality of the video was at/above the native rendering ability of TW14 anyways and thus the comparison was apt.
    Obviously at 4k, one would need to have 4k upscaled TW14 which I hope we have at some point, but don't yet, with RPCS3.
    But back to the top - no doubt about the player models. The swings and the modeling work are so so good in TW series. It's a high bar for 2K/HB to match that.

    Okay, my attention went to the backdrop and the effects of that horribly blurry backdrop that DOF puts into the picture. I'll never pretend to say that the models in TGC 2019, or apparently now even 2K21 compare to the organic quality of those in the last three years of the TW franchise.
    I still want to get that TGC 2019 screenshot I took today posted here for comparison. I couldn't get the camera as close to the golfer as the image you grabbed from the video, but it has more definition than what you captured from the compressed video. My goal tonight is to figure out where I went wrong with this capture to One Drive. I've done it before successfully, so I know it's possible, it's just something I don't do regularly enough to be proficient at it.

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