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PGA TOUR 2K21 Full Roster Revealed

2K has slowly started to reveal the roster of professional golfers for the upcoming PGA TOUR 2K21, which is scheduled to release on August 21 for the PlayStation 4, Xbox One, PC (via Steam), Nintendo Switch and Google Stadia.

PGA TOUR 2K21 cover athlete, Justin Thomas will be joined by 11 additional PGA TOUR pros, each of whom will present a challenge to players in PGA TOUR Career Mode, as they compete to become a FedEx Cup Champion. Unfortunately, you can’t play as any of the pros themselves.

Players can create and personalize their MyPLAYERs with equipment and apparel from licensed brands, including adidas, Polo, Ralph Lauren, Malbon Golf, Callaway Golf, Bridgestone Golf, TaylorMade Golf and more.

Here’s the list of pro golfers that have been revealed so far. We will keep it updated as we hear more.

UPDATE: (6-14) Here’s the full roster of professional golfers in PGA TOUR 2K21.

PGA TOUR 2K21 will include 15 licensed PGA TOUR courses, each of which were scanned using cutting-edge technology to bring the fairways, greens, bunkers, trees, lakes and ponds to life. Players can also trick out their own greens and fairways with thousands of custom options in the Course Designer.

PGA TOUR 2K21 is designed for players of all skill levels. Rookies can take advantage of real-time tutorials, tips and shot suggestions, while veterans can master their games with Pro Vision, Distance Control, Putt Preview and other innovations.

Social gaming is at the core of the experience, as players can hit the links with friends in local and online matches, including Alt-Shot, Stroke Play, Skins and 4-Player Scramble. In addition, Online Societies will encourage players to invite their squad to hit the clubhouse and run full seasons and tournaments with unique entry rules and requirements ,as well as handicap and event settings.

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  1. So the faces are different, but the bodies are the same? At least that's how this looks to me. All three announced pros have the exact same body type...and they even call out that Bryson DeChambeau is "jacked". Not so much in that screenshot...
    They all will have the swing of Kirk Oguri (look him up). I'm glad I wasn't pinning any hopes on the pros in this game. I gotta admit they look considerably better than the "Night of the Living Dead" profile mug shots they had for the career mode in TGC 2019!
    Even though they do'n't look very distinctive, they *may* wind up at least playing believably. I'd like to see something come along that can knock me out of my career mode malaise.
    bigkev
    If TW13 didn't do it, nothing will.

    I didn't really give it much of a chance. TW 13 had two country clubs I was very active in and they consumed most of my time. I also didn't like the way they altered the Tru-Aim camera in the career mode. IF I could adapt to follow cam, I'd have given it more attention.
    OnlookerDelay
    They all will have the swing of Kirk Oguri (look him up). I'm glad I wasn't pinning any hopes on the pros in this game. I gotta admit they look considerably better than the "Night of the Living Dead" profile mug shots they had for the career mode in TGC 2019!
    Even though they do'n't look very distinctive, they *may* wind up at least playing believably. I'd like to see something come along that can knock me out of my career mode malaise.

    Lmao, if they have a generic swing then what’s the point of having them in the game? This game is going to flop
    jbd345
    Lmao, if they have a generic swing then what’s the point of having them in the game? This game is going to flop

    Totally agree. The personality of a golfer is their swing (at least on-course). That's pretty much the only thing that makes them recognizable and distinguishes them from each other. Putting a pro's name on a generic swing is basically the same as just putting names on the generic players in "Tecmo Bowl". Actually, it may be worse than that...
    drewzer300
    Looks like its the same pose/model as Kuchar just with Kisner's face

    They're probably still using Kirk Oguri's mo-capped swing from TGC 2, so unfortunately, all the golfer's swings are going to look the same, whether they're featured pros or not. They do have the ability to change the golfer's heights and stature though... at least we can in TGC 2019 with our created players. I'm really going to be disappointed in HB Studios if they don't at least attempt to get the body frames right... there's not excuse not to!
    OnlookerDelay
    Now there's a real meter mover! :) I know he's won a couple of tournaments, but I doubt he's a known commodity among gamers!?

    I'm honestly most intrigued by him so far because he wears Nike apparel, and the image released with him shows a Swoosh on his cap. I wondered if Nike would have anything to do with this game, since of course Tiger and Rory were such highly visible Nike players and were connected to EA's golf games for so long.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Cameron Champ just named

    That's a real golfer 'eh?
    Is he friends with Tom Tournament, Wilson Winner and Sam Sawgrass?
    :laugh:
    MrArlingtonBeach
    I'm honestly most intrigued by him so far because he wears Nike apparel, and the image released with him shows a Swoosh on his cap. I wondered if Nike would have anything to do with this game, since of course Tiger and Rory were such highly visible Nike players and were connected to EA's golf games for so long.

    The Nike angle is a good catch on your part... I hadn't thought of that! What if the guys 2K are picking for featured pros, well other than Kuchar, are really up and comers and they start netting more notoriety in the Tour? It could pay dividends for them, although I think they missed a huge opportunity to cash in on gamers' interest in allowing them to play as one of these pros. I'm frankly quite shocked at how many are expressing their disappointment over not being able to play as one of the pros!?
    OnlookerDelay
    The Nike angle is a good catch on your part... I hadn't thought of that! What if the guys 2K are picking for featured pros, well other than Kuchar, are really up and comers and they start netting more notoriety in the Tour? It could pay dividends for them, although I think they missed a huge opportunity to cash in on gamers' interest in allowing them to play as one of these pros. I'm frankly quite shocked at how many are expressing their disappointment over not being able to play as one of the pros!?

    Playing as one of the PGA pros is really no different than wanting to play as Brady or LeBron in a football or basketball game. There's arguably no point in having guys in the game if you can't play as them. In particular, being able to pick a pro whose swing you enjoy watching would be a big draw (e.g. earlier conversation about being able to play as Couples or Els or someone like that). Plus, there are just some guys you like for whatever reason that you may want to play as - Tiger being an obvious one, but if you could play as Phil or someone of that stature, I would imagine a lot of people would do that (myself included).
    I understand that a lot of people want to play as themselves, but it seems odd to go through the trouble of having actual pros in the game, but then not be able to actually "do" anything with them (other than see them, I guess?).
    pietasterp
    ...it seems odd to go through the trouble of having actual pros in the game, but then not be able to actually "do" anything with them (other than see them, I guess?).

    And then not even have their body and unique swings motion captured..
    They basically stopped at doing an EA Game Face for the Pro's.
    It literally couldn't be any lower effort/cost on the part of 2K/HB.
    OnlookerDelay
    They all will have the swing of Kirk Oguri (look him up). I'm glad I wasn't pinning any hopes on the pros in this game. I gotta admit they look considerably better than the "Night of the Living Dead" profile mug shots they had for the career mode in TGC 2019!
    Even though they do'n't look very distinctive, they *may* wind up at least playing believably. I'd like to see something come along that can knock me out of my career mode malaise.

    I’ll preface by saying, I’m a fan of the golf club series. Have played it religiously, and am excited for this release ...
    BUT I just have to say ... NBA 2k has 200+ jump shots and even a jump shot creator. We can’t get 5-10 unique mocapped swings? It’s insane.
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    pietasterp
    Playing as one of the PGA pros is really no different than wanting to play as Brady or LeBron in a football or basketball game. There's arguably no point in having guys in the game if you can't play as them.

    You've put this in terms that I can relate to the why the desire to play as a pro exists. I like playing as pros in the team sports games, but for some reason that desire didn't translate into golf or racing. Apparently, I'm the exception, not the rule in that regard. I can't think of a rational reason for not having the capability of playing as a Pro, unless it somehow relates to terms of the contract 2K has with the featured pros, but even that's a stretch.
    I just hate to see it be a missed opportunity because it looks like so many were looking for this capability to be in the game. 2K is going to lose some sales over this...
    scagwi
    So there is no mode of play at all where you can play as a Pro?

    It doesn't really seem like it...all messaging around the release of the names of the pros included are "can you beat (insert name here)?". Nothing like "take to the links as (insert name here)".
    OnlookerDelay
    You've put this in terms that I can relate to the why the desire to play as a pro exists. I like playing as pros in the team sports games, but for some reason that desire didn't translate into golf or racing. Apparently, I'm the exception, not the rule in that regard. I can't think of a rational reason for not having the capability of playing as a Pro, unless it somehow relates to terms of the contract 2K has with the featured pros, but even that's a stretch.
    I just hate to see it be a missed opportunity because it looks like so many were looking for this capability to be in the game. 2K is going to lose some sales over this...

    I agree with you that I think in golf, it is a little bit different than the team sports because most of the history of golf video games is random generic players, so it's sort of a part of the fabric of the sub-genre that is golf games. In some ways, the courses are the draw, not the players. Also, most of the biggest name golf titles (with the only exception being the Tiger Woods series) featured no pros - Links, Jack Nicklaus Golf (with the exception of Jack himself, obviously), Golden Tee Golf, Let's Golf, pretty much every golf game other than the EA sports games.
    Also, since a huge amount of golf video gamers also play golf in real life, it's much more natural to want to play as yourself in a golf game. I will never play August National in real life, but putting my virtual self on the course to see how I would do is a very attractive proposition. So I would agree that generally, it's not as big of a deal if you can't play with PGA tour pros in a golf game as it would be if you couldn't play with real NFL guys in a football game.
    All that having been said, if you're going to bother to spend the effort to put pros in the game, it just seems like an odd decision to not allow you to actually play with them. It'd be like if MLB The Show had all the MLB players in the game, but you could only play against them with your random generic squad. That would kind of suck.
    I do hope this game sells really well, though. I want it to be a profitable IP for 2K, so that the next version will hopefully have everything we want in this version. If this one flops big-time, I fear for the future of video game golf as a genre for the foreseeable future....
    scagwi
    So there is no mode of play at all where you can play as a Pro?

    When answering the question: Can players play as their favorite PGA TOUR Pros, or can they only play against them in Career Mode?
    HB Studios answered thusly: "Players will compete against the TOUR Pros throughout PGA TOUR Career Mode. We will talk more about this mode in the coming weeks - stay tuned!"
    The way they answered this question said to me, "we're not comfortable with the answer we're having to give you here, but look at what we have been able to do for you."
    To cut to the chase, I read this as you can NOT play as a featured Pro in ANY mode. It looks like they've missed a big opportunity here.
    I couldn't care less about playing as the pros, but if Kuch doesn't show me that one plane swing it's no better than TGC 2019.
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    pietasterp

    I do hope this game sells really well, though...
    ....so that the next version will hopefully have everything we want in this version.

    It's amazing how often we have to keep waiting for "the next version"
    scagwi
    It's amazing how often we have to keep waiting for "the next version"

    I know, it's so stupid that we somehow have to hope an inferior version of a product is profitable, so that the one we really want can be released (and bought all over again). It made me want to throw up even typing that...
    This game is all hanging on the gameplay for me at this point. With next gen coming this holiday and ps5 making its reveal, if no substantial changes are made I might just stick with 2019 and save the money towards a next gen console.
    Haven't seen it stated as coming to next gen, sounds like they would be better off delaying it, put some more time into it, and then come out as one of a handful of games on the new consoles.
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    jbd345
    This game is all hanging on the gameplay for me at this point. With next gen coming this holiday and ps5 making its reveal, if no substantial changes are made I might just stick with 2019 and save the money towards a next gen console.

    I honestly wish somebody would take a Super Mega Baseball-esque swing at a golf title.
    If built in an "open" way around superb core gameplay and ball/surface physics, and in a way that allows the fanbase to extend it (more than just courses), it could really be a way forward for the long term.
    PGA 2K seems to be trying to just keep squeezing the 'ol lemon with the bare bare minimum of investment in an effort to try to do too much.
    Pathetically low level license implementations just don't do anything for basically anybody. If this is going to continue to be the level of "PGA integration" - just don't bother with any licensing 2K.
    scagwi
    I honestly wish somebody would take a Super Mega Baseball-esque swing at a golf title.
    If built in an "open" way around superb core gameplay and ball/surface physics, and in a way that allows the fanbase to extend it (more than just courses), it could really be a way forward for the long term.
    PGA 2K seems to be trying to just keep squeezing the 'ol lemon with the bare bare minimum of investment in an effort to try to do too much.
    Pathetically low level license implementations just don't do anything for basically anybody. If this is going to continue to be the level of "PGA integration" - just don't bother with any licensing 2K.
    Agreed, at this point why not stick with TGC 2019 and add customisable swings. User could then create most of the PGA pros anyway.
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    binga30
    Agreed, at this point why not stick with TGC 2019 and add customisable swings. User could then create most of the PGA pros anyway.
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    I'm with you. Open things up to more user customization and let people create the HB-GA Tour and fill it with user made real course recreations of tour stops, etc.
    The half-assing on the licensing is just a road to unsatisfaction for those looking for such things...and worse...one wonders if the budget gets spent too much there vs gameplay and other fixes people would really like.
    scagwi
    I honestly wish somebody would take a Super Mega Baseball-esque swing at a golf title.

    Yeap. I've also been trying to tell people the same would be a smash hit for soccer too.
    scagwi
    His entire body or just his face?
    Seriously this is such a low effort implementation of “PGA tour golfers”
    I know some of you are pumped for this, but the data so far really does support the “cash grab - it’s just a 2019 content pack” criticisms

    Maybe you could tell me the point of bringing this out on dated hardware? I think this is 2k's Hail Mary into the golf gaming space. This flops and I think it will they go bye bye. Who cares if you can play against a named pro who basically looks and swings nothing like his real life counterpart. If HB or 2k for that matter didn't want to pony up for some mid tier pro to mo cap his swing do you think the AI robots are going to swing like JT or Kisner or whoever?
    Not going to pay full price for what amounts to 2019 DLC. :nono:
    As stated, if EAS couldn't continue succeeding w/ Rory after years of PGA Tour association in the TW series, and very well integrated at that, there was no chance in H*E*L*L this business model was going to succeed. I can see genuine success in limiting their market to the 'serious' golfer, and by that I mean people who genuinely appreciate golf as a competitive sport. Improving the animations by capturing a few very choice exquisite golf swings, improving the realism of the pre and post shot animations, continue enhancing the swing mechanism(s), enhancing graphics and adding more variable weather and many other minor tweaks and scrap the PGA tour connection was the direction to take this game, and for that matter for an other potential developer of a new golf sim. There are so many significant yet minor improvements that could be made to this series by committing to this model going forward. Too late though--what a waste of time and money. Hopefully game play is not worse than TGC2019.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    Maybe you could tell me the point of bringing this out on dated hardware?

    Perhaps a combined user base of over 165,000,000 consoles between PS4 and XBox One has some bearing on it. Also, the next generation of hardware is probably going to cost at least a hundred dollars more than the current gen, and that will make the next gen's base grow slower than the current.
    If HB Studios is smart, they're probably coding this game so that it can take advantage of the advanced processing capabilities of the PS5 and the Series X. I think this may be the last golf game that's developed in Unity that 2K will publish. My prediction is this one will sell at least twice as many copies as TGC 2019, just because 2K is in the name and there are a few recognizable names in it. If there is another golf game published after this by 2K, it will probably be coded with the Eco-Motion engine, which NBA 2K21 uses.
    Okay, let me duck back outta here and camp out on Twitter, in eager anticipation of the next featured PGA TOUR Pro's name to be announced :)
    OnlookerDelay
    Perhaps a combined user base of over 165,000,000 consoles between PS4 and XBox One has some bearing on it. Also, the next generation of hardware is probably going to cost at least a hundred dollars more than the current gen, and that will make the next gen's base grow slower than the current.
    If HB Studios is smart, they're probably coding this game so that it can take advantage of the advanced processing capabilities of the PS5 and the Series X. I think this may be the last golf game that's developed in Unity that 2K will publish. My prediction is this one will sell at least twice as many copies as TGC 2019, just because 2K is in the name and there are a few recognizable names in it. If there is another golf game published after this by 2K, it will probably be coded with the Eco-Motion engine, which NBA 2K21 uses.
    Okay, let me duck back outta here and camp out on Twitter, in eager anticipation of the next featured PGA TOUR Pro's name to be announced :)

    They better sell as many pre-orders as they can.
    The word gets out quickly if something is disappointing
    “At least twice as many copies” is quite a bold prediction.
    I’ll have what you’re having there JC :cheers:
    scagwi
    They better sell as many pre-orders as they can.
    The word gets out quickly if something is disappointing
    “At least twice as many copies” is quite a bold prediction.
    I’ll have what you’re having there JC :cheers:

    I'm saying this based on the 2K name recognition in the title. I'm watching the reaction to this game from a demographic of gamers on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, the likes and number of which I'd never seen with the previous three TGC games. That's what I'm mostly basing my sales estimate on. TGC 2019 didn't sell very well either, so that makes it even easier for me to make this prediction.
    Nothing that's been published or promoted so far says much of anything to me about how this game is going to play or feel. I have an idea it's going to feel different, I just hope it feels different in a way that's more copacetic with my senses. Ultimately, I know my most important questions aren't going to be answered until I get my hands on it and try it for myself.
    OnlookerDelay
    I'm watching the reaction to this game from a demographic of gamers on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, the likes and number of which I'd never seen with the previous three TGC games.

    Interesting. I'm seeing some of what you're seeing, but I'm also seeing a lot of "I can't play as the pros? WTF?" types of reactions also.
    As those of us who watched EA Rory know - the mainstream can be a fickle group and if too much is missing or implemented in odd ways, it'll quickly bomb with that crowd.
    I sure hope the gameplay tweaks will be inspiring.
    "Golf got game"
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Ian Poulter never met a video game he didn't want to be in...and he's in 2K21 as well:
    https://twitter.com/PGATOUR2K/status/1271472440145670144

    I notice a lot of people, in reply to these various Pro tweets, are commenting on the decidedly "last gen" graphics and particularly the player models.
    It's quite a stark contrast if you're an NBA 2K fan -- especially if you just saw what NBA (but not PGA) 2K21 has cooked up for NextGen graphics.
    scagwi
    As those of us who watched EA Rory know - the mainstream can be a fickle group and if too much is missing or implemented in odd ways, it'll quickly bomb with that crowd.
    I sure hope the gameplay tweaks will be inspiring.
    "Golf got game"

    It's amazing that RMPGAT came with playable pros, and even added several more in after launch, but had very, very few courses to play. And now a game is coming out 5 years later that will be chock-full of user-made courses, plus have officially licensed ones, but won't let you play as a single pro. Weird that they can't just combine the two and give everybody what they want...
    scagwi
    Interesting. I'm seeing some of what you're seeing, but I'm also seeing a lot of "I can't play as the pros? WTF?" types of reactions also.

    I agree, the volume of "I can't play as the pros" cries are plentiful. It tells me that more people are tuned into this than I thought there would be, and probably some of those who are complaining about the inability to do so are going to buy it anyway. I'm astonished at how much attention people are paying to this on the social media sites... both positive and negative.
    I sure hope the gameplay tweaks will be inspiring.

    As do I, as this is by far and away the area of greatest interest to me. I have nothing to go on other than "we've made some changes under the hood" to go on. Possibly some of the description of how these changes work will help some, but ultimately I'm not really going to know how it will sit with me until I get my hands on it. I'm one of the rare lot who are foolish enough to buy it without knowing if it's going to measure up to my expectations or not, but such is my lot in life ;)
    OnlookerDelay
    I'm one of the rare lot who are foolish enough to buy it without knowing if it's going to measure up to my expectations or not, but such is my lot in life ;)

    Hey - it's your money man - do as you please, right?
    How many more "generic body and swing but sort of like their real life counterpart face" Pro's do we have to get through?
    The sooner they are done with that, hopefully the sooner we can get actually interesting information.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    won't let you play as a single pro. Weird that they can't just combine the two and give everybody what they want...

    It's bumfuzzling isn't it? I want to know the reason behind this and I think it's an answer HB Studios should provide.
    scagwi
    How many more "generic body and swing but sort of like their real life counterpart face" Pro's do we have to get through?
    The sooner they are done with that, hopefully the sooner we can get actually interesting information.

    I believe it's 5 more...Justin Thomas plus 11 others. With JT included, we are at 7.
    scagwi
    How many more "generic body and swing but sort of like their real life counterpart face" Pro's do we have to get through?
    The sooner they are done with that, hopefully the sooner we can get actually interesting information.

    We have to suffer through 5 more of these before they move on to something else. We'll probably have to slog through a remaining licensed course rollout before they move on the issues of greater interest to the more hardcore golf gamer.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Gary Woodland, come on down..

    Does Gary actually go by "G Dub"?
    "READY FOR YOUR CLUB DROP MOMENT?"
    "JOIN OUR CREW AND STAY CONNECTED"
    I'm ready for some "Play-By-Play that slays"
    The graphics other than the player models and crowds aren't so bad in this game. Focusing on just the player models gives the impression the entire graphical package is ps2/ps3 era. I understand the need to do it but for their sake I hope they stop soon. 
    If I were Bryson DeChambeau, I'd be so pissed off that I spent all that time working out and putting on all that muscle, only to have my character model have the arms of a pro cyclist.
    Also, as others have mentioned, if they were going to just use generic swings for all the pros, they couldn't have made worse picks than DeChambeau, Finau, and Kuchar. They have very recognizable swings (the stiff/no wrist break/rigid swing of DeChambeau, the short/sawed-off power swing of Finau, or the flat single-plane swing of Kuch) that will be so noticeable if their names and (sort-of) likenesses are just sumperimposed on a regular generic golf swing. I mean, most people won't necessarily pick up on Kevin Kisner or Cameron Champ's swings not being true-to-life, but those guys...I mean, it'd be like if Michael Vick threw with a generic right-handed QB animation in Madden or NFL2K (still the greatest sports game ever, by the way....).
    I get that demographic they're going after probably doesn't care, but it sort of irks me that golf fans are being treated with a lot less respect than football or basketball fans.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    It's amazing that RMPGAT came with playable pros, and even added several more in after launch, but had very, very few courses to play. And now a game is coming out 5 years later that will be chock-full of user-made courses, plus have officially licensed ones, but won't let you play as a single pro. Weird that they can't just combine the two and give everybody what they want...

    You'll have to buy the next one for that. Or maybe the one after that. You want pot bunkers? Maybe the one after that. Without the user created courses this game is flat and has been stagnant since TGC2.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    You'll have to buy the next one for that. Or maybe the one after that. You want pot bunkers? Maybe the one after that. Without the user created courses this game is flat and has been stagnant since TGC2.

    It's a real shame they won't build a parallel "pro course mode" to go alongside the default "server based course DNA" system that prohibits ever having truly course unique assets.
    The real strength of Perfect Golf courses is the literally unlimited flexibility of assets to make each course as faithful to the real life counterpart as the designers imagination and techniques allow.
    Some way to have "both" in the TGC world would be pretty cool...even if it entailed a higher paid tier for hosting of those assets and higher local storage requirements, etc.
    If the new MS Flight Sim can literally "stream the world" in real time, I'm pretty sure a golf game could too -- just a resources issues mainly.
    In my Perfect Golf install, I currently have 67 courses installed with a folder size around 15 GB.
    It really isn't that gigantic actually.
    scagwi
    In my Perfect Golf install, I currently have 67 courses installed with a folder size around 15 GB.

    No, that's not all that big. My Forza 7 installation with DLCs on my XBox One X is over 32 GB.
    pietasterp
    If I were Bryson DeChambeau, I'd be so pissed off that I spent all that time working out and putting on all that muscle, only to have my character model have the arms of a pro cyclist.
    Also, as others have mentioned, if they were going to just use generic swings for all the pros, they couldn't have made worse picks than DeChambeau, Finau, and Kuchar. They have very recognizable swings (the stiff/no wrist break/rigid swing of DeChambeau, the short/sawed-off power swing of Finau, or the flat single-plane swing of Kuch) that will be so noticeable if their names and (sort-of) likenesses are just sumperimposed on a regular generic golf swing. I mean, most people won't necessarily pick up on Kevin Kisner or Cameron Champ's swings not being true-to-life, but those guys...I mean, it'd be like if Michael Vick threw with a generic right-handed QB animation in Madden or NFL2K (still the greatest sports game ever, by the way....).
    I get that demographic they're going after probably doesn't care, but it sort of irks me that golf fans are being treated with a lot less respect than football or basketball fans.

    The more I think about it, who knows how much the pandemic has affected the development. Maybe they have generic wings, because they couldn’t get them in mo cap sessions. With 2k hopefully there is a lot of post launch support and they are patched in. That was severely lacking in the last three games. Has it been 100% confirmed they have generic swings, or are we just going by the trailer.
    jbd345
    The more I think about it, who knows how much the pandemic has affected the development. Maybe they have generic wings, because they couldn’t get them in mo cap sessions. With 2k hopefully there is a lot of post launch support and they are patched in. That was severely lacking in the last three games. Has it been 100% confirmed they have generic swings, or are we just going by the trailer.

    If they had planned to do mo-cap sessions, I would have thought they would have tried to do them earlier than March. I would think more like November or December of last year, when the PGA TOUR season is over, would have been better suited. But yeah, if they had planned to do them after March, the pandemic would have put a stop to that.
    I do recall Justin Thomas saying to "The Miz" during his video with him that he'd had his face scanned, but that was it. If the cover athlete wasn't mo-capped, I doubt any of the other featured pros would be.
    OnlookerDelay
    If they had planned to do mo-cap sessions, I would have thought they would have tried to do them earlier than March. I would think more like November or December of last year, when the PGA TOUR season is over, would have been better suited. But yeah, if they had planned to do them after March, the pandemic would have put a stop to that.
    I do recall Justin Thomas saying to "The Miz" during his video with him that he'd had his face scanned, but that was it. If the cover athlete wasn't mo-capped, I doubt any of the other featured pros would be.

    It’s just doesn’t make sense to me. Is it the limitations of the unity engine? Only can handle one swing type? To me, it’s coming off as a little lazy. Not a good look.
    I wonder how much it would have cost to mo cap the pro swings. Seems to me 2k is going to cater to a crowd who doesn't give a rip about stuff like that. Hoping for the best but expecting nothing much here.
    The game is decent enough but it isn't improving much at all. I'll wait for a deep sale.
    We don't even need mo-cap, let us tweak the swing like in the old tiger woods games. It's not a new feature.
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    jbd345
    It’s just doesn’t make sense to me. Is it the limitations of the unity engine? Only can handle one swing type? To me, it’s coming off as a little lazy. Not a good look.

    I think it's more the difficulty in getting all of these golfers to a place where their swings can be mo-capped, with the same degree of resolution. I'm trying to imagine them all being able to go into their nearest mo-cap capable studio, and getting consistent results from them all. From all that I've read, motion capture is an expensive and variable proposition.
    lowpaiddonkey10
    I wonder how much it would have cost to mo cap the pro swings. Seems to me 2k is going to cater to a crowd who doesn't give a rip about stuff like that. Hoping for the best but expecting nothing much here.
    The game is decent enough but it isn't improving much at all. I'll wait for a deep sale.

    Motion capture is shockingly expensive. How does $4,000 a day plus $20 a second for data solving + re-targeting sound? I can see where you'd be up over a million dollars with 12 pro golfers just for the motion capture alone, not to mention their time and travel expenses
    to get to a studios where they could be mo-capped. I'm pretty sure that's why we're not seeing it at this stage. If this title is quasi-successful, I think we'll see mo-caps and more pros in the next edition, probably using the Eco-Motion game engine!
    MrArlingtonBeach
    The two golfers announced today were Jim Furyk (another guy who needs to have a unique mo-capped swing, but probably won't) and Billy Horschel.

    Furyk definitely needs his swing mo-capped, but I'm sure it ain't gonna happen this time around.... Billy Horschel (face palm emoji)!?
    MrArlingtonBeach
    The two golfers announced today were Jim Furyk (another guy who needs to have a unique mo-capped swing, but probably won't) and Billy Horschel.

    "Can you beat Billy Ho?"... SMH!
    pietasterp
    If I were Bryson DeChambeau, I'd be so pissed off that I spent all that time working out and putting on all that muscle, only to have my character model have the arms of a pro cyclist.

    If it were me, I wouldn't want to play with DeChambeau. The guy takes 5 minutes sitting there before hitting every shot, and go around the greens 3 times before hitting any putt, even if it's 5 foot. I hate slow play.
    bigkev
    If it were me, I wouldn't want to play with DeChambeau. The guy takes 5 minutes sitting there before hitting every shot, and go around the greens 3 times before hitting any putt, even if it's 5 foot. I hate slow play.

    I'd love to see a pairing with Rory Sabbatini and Bryson DeChambeau. We might get another Sabbatini/Ben Crane incident, where Rory impatiently went on to the next tee and played is tee shot, while Crane was still meticulously sizing up his putt... it was hilarious :)
    Why not make the PGA courses available just to view and walk on but not play on.
    Really dumb decisions here.
    Like not being able to be NBA players in NBA 2k21.
    Perhaps that’s the next step. All locked behind VC.
    Seriously though make the Pros playable.
    stocksy
    Why not make the PGA courses available just to view and walk on but not play on.
    Really dumb decisions here.
    Like not being able to be NBA players in NBA 2k21.
    Perhaps that’s the next step. All locked behind VC.
    Seriously though make the Pros playable.

    Ive gotten over the fact we won’t be able to play as them. The golf club was never that type of game, so I get it. I’m more annoyed they didn’t get any mo cap in for their swings Especially with a unique swing like Fruyk.
    Embarrassing that the PGA put their name on this without having playable characters. Even PGA Tour 3 on genesis had playable pros.
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    Boy... that is a serious list of "alternates" they came up with for licensed pros.
    And no real swings and you can't play as any of them.
    Seriously, why bother?
    Just add more licensed courses and license the names for the scoreboards....and/or let people import/edit names of "who is on the Pro Tour".
    OnlookerDelay
    Motion capture is shockingly expensive. How does $4,000 a day plus $20 a second for data solving + re-targeting sound? I can see where you'd be up over a million dollars with 12 pro golfers just for the motion capture alone, not to mention their time and travel expenses
    to get to a studios where they could be mo-capped. I'm pretty sure that's why we're not seeing it at this stage. If this title is quasi-successful, I think we'll see mo-caps and more pros in the next edition, probably using the Eco-Motion game engine!

    An alternative could be booking an impersonator for a few days. Hopefully this sees some success and it’s in future plans.
    https://youtu.be/9l-7PRqDK40
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    scagwi
    Boy... that is a serious list of "alternates" they came up with for licensed pros.
    And no real swings and you can't play as any of them.
    Seriously, why bother?
    Just add more licensed courses and license the names for the scoreboards....and/or let people import/edit names of "who is on the Pro Tour".

    Money for nothing. You gotta wonder who is making these decisions. I don't care to play with the pros anyway. I always used my own player in all of EA's games anyway but if you are going to include the pros they have to be playable and they have to look and swing like their real life counterparts or why bother?
    Who are they kidding with this half a$$ed attempt? Fix the game fix the rough fix the bunkers.
    BaselineBakes
    An alternative could be booking an impersonator for a few days. Hopefully this sees some success and it’s in future plans.
    https://youtu.be/9l-7PRqDK40
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    LOL... that guys is very good at impersonating swings! He had me from his Tommy Fleetwood impersonation. I know a guy who looks like Tommy, especially his build and face, but his hair doesn't quite measure up to Fleetwood's, but it could rival it if it let it grow long enough. Thanks for sharing that link Baseline Bakes. Oh, he did a great impersonation of Monty as well, but they were all keepers!
    The roster of pros they put in the game was pretty close to my tempered expectations. It did strike me yesterday that they may have actually done better than I thought when 4 of their featured pros finished in the top 14 at Colonial!?
    What really did surprise is that Matthew Wolff isn't one of the featured pros. I thought for sure his tweet "I wonder how my swing will look in this game", as the second post in the PGA TOUR 2K21 announcement thread tipped him off as a pro. Now I'm wondering why someone of his up and coming stature would be so quick to jump on a Twitter thread concerning this relatively unknown golf game and make a tweet about it? I would think someone in his position would be oblivious to a pedestrian game like this!?
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Just started watching the most recent PGA 2K21 video from The ApexHound...it's a video related to the roster announcements. I believe he has been connected to the 2K21 devs in the past, and he mentioned right away in the intro (at 3 seconds in) that he's doing another update video tomorrow because "there's going to be some cool news tomorrow"...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMaKbojP0NE

    Thanks for posting that link. I have a hunch that TheApexHound is going to announce a multiplayer, play-through session of 2K21 with producer Shaun West in his "cool news" tomorrow. He did that with Shaun in TGC 2019, which I thought was informative.
    Now that all 12 featured golfers have been announced, this thread has served it's purpose and will unceremoneously fade away. Looking back at it, I'd have laughed in your face if you told me that we would get 13 Pages of discussion about which 12 Pros would be featured in this golf game! I guess it just goes to show how desperate we are to discuss any breaking news in the golf game world :)
    Brogias
    Will we be able to create more golfers? Kind of sucks only having 12

    You'll be able to create your own individual MyPlayer, but that's probably it. We have been given next to nothing in terms of info about creating a player, or how career mode will work.
    From my understanding, pros in the game are not playable, and they only show up in occasional career mode cutscenes.
    Brogias
    Will we be able to create more golfers? Kind of sucks only having 12

    MAB's answer to you covered the situation quite well. I will add that at best, you'll probably be able to edit the fictional player names, to PGA TOUR pro names in the career mode roster.
    It's a very uncertain and unscientific way to do it, because all you're going to have to go on is the fictional career mode player's handicap.
    The only advantages I see in 2K21's Career mode, versus TGC 2019's is you'll at least have 12 real pros, already named, and their scoring and possibly stats, could be based on a broader set of attributes than the fictional players. The other advantage is that you'll at least have a cut scene showing the other pro, or pros, occasionally, elsewhere on the course. It could get a little monotonous, and possibly annoying after a while, especially if you figure out that they're just showing you a rotation of canned videos, of different players perhaps playing the same shot, over time.
    Would that be better than what TGC 2019 currently has in Career mode? I'd say, yes it will, but I also think it's going to fall well short of what a lot of career mode fans are expecting to get out of it.
    COMMISSIONERHBK9
    is anyone disappointed that the roster is a little weak? i wonder if there would be dlc for new golfers?

    It’s the first installment. So yea it’s expected. Who do you want, Tiger, Phil? If you watched any of the pga tour you’d see the list isn’t terrible.
    jbd345
    It’s the first installment. So yea it’s expected. Who do you want, Tiger, Phil? If you watched any of the pga tour you’d see the list isn’t terrible.

    after what i just found out it dont even matter now u cant even play as the pros.
    COMMISSIONERHBK9
    after what i just found out it dont even matter now u cant even play as the pros.

    Yeah, you can't play as the pros anyway, so it makes no difference really...disappointing, to say the least.
    The Kid 24
    So will the names of like Tiger, Rory, Phil, etc be in the game during career mode?

    No.
    Several top names will not be in the list of players in career mode...I know these three you mentioned are for sure not it. There was a post elsewhere that went over all the pros on the list, and which ones were missing. I'll try to find it.
    EDIT: Ok, I found it...https://tgctours.proboards.com/post/565739/thread
    Top players missing in career mode pros list:
    1. Woods
    2. Rory
    3. DJ
    4. Koepka
    5. Rahm
    6. Mickelson
    7. Schauffele
    8. Morikawa
    9. Hovland
    10. Wolff
    MrArlingtonBeach
    No.
    Several top names will not be in the list of players in career mode...I know these three you mentioned are for sure not it. There was a post elsewhere that went over all the pros on the list, and which ones were missing. I'll try to find it.
    EDIT: Ok, I found it...https://tgctours.proboards.com/post/565739/thread
    Top players missing in career mode pros list:
    1. Woods
    2. Rory
    3. DJ
    4. Koepka
    5. Rahm
    6. Mickelson
    7. Schauffele
    8. Morikawa
    9. Hovland
    10. Wolff

    Damn that sucks... I'm guessing they don't have rights to those names or something?
    The Kid 24
    Damn that sucks... I'm guessing they don't have rights to those names or something?

    Either haven’t given rights to anybody or they might still be under something with EA sports
    Tiger I think is licensed by nobody at this point
    Not sure money is ever going to change his mind since he has more than he knows what to do with (Phil also)
    I don't remember the name Mickelson ever being in a game. I read somewhere it was because he didn't want to have his name in there. So it looks like golfers have either the option to not be in there or they can have legal means to make sure they're not in there.
    bigkev
    I don't remember the name Mickelson ever being in a game. I read somewhere it was because he didn't want to have his name in there. So it looks like golfers have either the option to not be in there or they can have legal means to make sure they're not in there.

    His name was in the old Tiger Woods games...I just saw his name on the EA world golf rankings leaderboard, FedEx Cup standings, and such in Tiger Woods 14 when I was playing not too long ago.
    J4Minnes0tahh
    i dont really care how the players look as long as they play like themselves. i wanna see Bryson smacking drives 340-400 yards

    Bryson's not even in the game lol
    Freakywwe
    Bryson's not even in the game lol

    He is in the game...but his likeness was done pre-bulk, so he looks like the more scrawny kid he was before he started to pack on the muscle. And you won't really get to see him hit drives or anything. Seems like all the pro player cutscenes are from putts, approach shots, or chips around the green.
    I played a few golf games years ago, probably back I. The PS2/XBOX games. I saw some promotion for this and thought it might be worth getting to jump back into golf simulators, but it looks pretty underwhelming from what I've seen.
    Are there any other golf games that people would recommend over this? Gameplay is obviously most important but I would prefer something with a good amount of real pros and courses, and preferably with a relatively deep career mode.
    Thanks in advance!
    Mackrel829
    I played a few golf games years ago, probably back I. The PS2/XBOX games. I saw some promotion for this and thought it might be worth getting to jump back into golf simulators, but it looks pretty underwhelming from what I've seen.
    Are there any other golf games that people would recommend over this? Gameplay is obviously most important but I would prefer something with a good amount of real pros and courses, and preferably with a relatively deep career mode.
    Thanks in advance!

    Personally, my recommendation would be Tiger Woods 14 for PS3 or Xbox 360, especially the Masters Historic Edition. It has over 20 real courses, lots of pros to play as, a career mode with all four licensed majors, and more. Lots of people still play it today, and EA even still had the servers left on for it the last time I played.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Personally, my recommendation would be Tiger Woods 14 for PS3 or Xbox 360, especially the Masters Historic Edition. It has over 20 real courses, lots of pros to play as, a career mode with all four licensed majors, and more. Lots of people still play it today, and EA even still had the servers left on for it the last time I played.

    Great game let's hope EA hasn't lost their taste for the gold video game space.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Personally, my recommendation would be Tiger Woods 14 for PS3 or Xbox 360, especially the Masters Historic Edition. It has over 20 real courses, lots of pros to play as, a career mode with all four licensed majors, and more. Lots of people still play it today, and EA even still had the servers left on for it the last time I played.

    Thanks for the suggestion! It's strange how golf games seem to have basically died out over the last few years. I figured they were there, I just wasn't looking for them. Now that I'm looking, they're really hard to find!
    Mackrel829
    Thanks for the suggestion! It's strange how golf games seem to have basically died out over the last few years. I figured they were there, I just wasn't looking for them. Now that I'm looking, they're really hard to find!

    I think Rory McIlroy had potential but EA basically put no effort into the game at launch, and then when it (predictably) didn't do well, they pulled the plug. Self-fulfilling prophecy, essentially.
    Anyway, PGA2K21 is what we've got for now, so we'll see how it goes. Whatever the outcome, I think it's pretty clear golf cannot be annualized in the same way as football or basketball, so that right there takes away a lot of the incentive for publishers to invest in the sport. It's gaming in the 21st century: anything that isn't a thinly-veiled online casino that makes money in perpetuity is of no interest to big publishers. And there are only big publishers left.
    pietasterp
    It's gaming in the 21st century: anything that isn't a thinly-veiled online casino that makes money in perpetuity is of no interest to big publishers. And there are only big publishers left.

    Well yeah, they're being pushed by shareholders. I almost have some regrets, EA went from $90 to $140+ since mid march. And oh, they didn't even need a golf game.
    bigkev
    Well yeah, they're being pushed by shareholders. I almost have some regrets, EA went from $90 to $140+ since mid march. And oh, they didn't even need a golf game.

    Just free money from the Federal Reserve, Well really not free.
    MrArlingtonBeach
    Personally, my recommendation would be Tiger Woods 14 for PS3 or Xbox 360, especially the Masters Historic Edition. It has over 20 real courses, lots of pros to play as, a career mode with all four licensed majors, and more. Lots of people still play it today, and EA even still had the servers left on for it the last time I played.

    TW14 has real life players on the leaderboards in career mode, correct?
    My question would be is it possible to customize the players name so more recent golfers are on the leaderboards? Anyone know if that’s possible?
    mikemarc1
    TW14 has real life players on the leaderboards in career mode, correct?
    My question would be is it possible to customize the players name so more recent golfers are on the leaderboards? Anyone know if that’s possible?

    Yes, TW 14 has real life player names on the leaderboards. PGA 2K21 also has real names on the leaderboards in career mode. However, TW 14 has names like Phil Mickelson, Dustin Johnson, and Rory McIlroy, guys whose names will not be in 2K21.
    Also, you cannot edit any names on the leaderboards in TW 14. You are also unable to edit names in career mode in PGA 2K21.

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