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Tactically, it looks like there is the same rigidity we have in PES17, with Barca wingers eating the side lines (I am guessing they have touch the side line Advanced tactic on). By the way, does someone told them that the 1st/2nd most famous player in the word, who is playing in their main partner team is not a winger?
In terms of players positioning, it also looks like a lot to PES2017, with the offensive line of the two teams completely disconnected from the rest of the team when their team is defending. May be full back attitude as been finally improved, as they seems to be pushing higher pitch when their team is attacking (radar on Neymar goal at 2:10 onward), instead of having one of them always staying with the center backs.
Based on this single video (worth what it worth) the game looks very good and promising but hardly revolutionary in terms of gameplay and in the way fundamentals have been addressed. I am still very impatient to have it in my hands and I really hope it will makes me eat my pessimist words.
Tactically, it looks like there is the same rigidity we have in PES17, with Barca wingers eating the side lines (I am guessing they have touch the side line Advanced tactic on). By the way, does someone told them that the 1st/2nd most famous player in the word, who is playing in their main partner team is not a winger?
In terms of players positioning, it also looks like a lot to PES2017, with the offensive line of the two teams completely disconnected from the rest of the team when their team is defending. May be full back attitude as been finally improved, as they seems to be pushing higher pitch when their team is attacking (radar on Neymar goal at 2:10 onward), instead of having one of them always staying with the center backs.
Based on this single video (worth what it worth) the game looks very good and promising but hardly revolutionary in terms of gameplay and in the way fundamentals have been addressed. I am still very impatient to have it in my hands and I really hope it will makes me eat my pessimist words.
I am trying not to look too much into this video due to it being a 2 player match. I would love to see someone play against the CPU but we won't see that until Gamescom. Like you stated there may be some advanced tactics on causing a lot of different things to occur but I agree the player position and tactically it does seem similar to Pes17. Of course we won't know for sure until we get some more teams to try.
Decent info for what it's worth. Starting to get hyped for PC and dribbling this year.
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To be honest I'm not very optimistic about Konami fixing this. At least I didn't see any real changes in 2017 after release and it looks like the changes in 2018 so far aren't that big.
Everything else about the gameplay will probably be fine but poor formations just annoy me because I think positioning would be one of the easiest thing to fix in PES. Maybe it won't be that bad when the game releases and custom tactics will probably fix a lot of the problems.
Everything else about the gameplay will probably be fine but poor formations just annoy me because I think positioning would be one of the easiest thing to fix in PES. Maybe it won't be that bad when the game releases and custom tactics will probably fix a lot of the problems.
I am not very optimistic about this being to our liking as well I just want to see more of a midfield battle. Hopefully custom tactics can fix it but if it is just like last year the CPU using some of those broken Advanced tactics it won't matter much. Deep Defensive line, Swarm the Box seem like they may still be there causing some of these positioning issues.
I get that the game is built to be played with 5-6 minute halves, but even FIFA has advanced more towards sim than PES in the past few years.
Is it me or does the players in PES 18 seem to "stop" "hesitate" for a split micro-second that makes receiving the pass look awkward, all the passes seem to be pin point accurate, almost as if the act of receiving the pass is "trapped in a very small confined box." In other words, "catching it in stride" seems to be off. The other game's player receiving the ball seems to feel and look more realistic, not always pinpoint, seems to have an added inaccuracy look factored into every pass in a good way.
Firing up the demo of PES17, when I simply used an extremely low powered "through-passing" (even to pass it to the closest teammate), it actually felt and looked much more realistic. It doesn't turn into a traditional through pass, instead the pass still gets to the teammate, but receiving teammate simply needs to make small adjustments to his body position to receive the pass ... if that makes any sense. I just wish I was able to default the CPU to use "through-passing" for all it's passes in PES. To me it would make the game feel and look better.
I heard that matt's video has reached Taya-san but unfortunately he could not understand english
but I buy FIFA every year because I only play online usually with friends.
I will wait until the PES beta to see if the servers are good enough for me and my friends to make the switch
I heard that matt's video has reached Taya-san but unfortunately he could not understand english
Some of the guys from Evo did send it to him, and translated in Japanese, the best they could. We'll just have to see. I still feel good about PES 18 overall. Still have some questions about positioning and off-the-ball player movements/attention though.
P.S. Just send me as well so I can get a free trip since I proposed this AMAZING idea.... LOL!
#OSNationUnite :)
I think TrueBrits has it right. Game was too easy on Superstar last year, and this gameplay looks similar.
It's like the AI defense is coded to create space and make the game artificially end to end. Defenders need to close down and cut off passing lanes. It shouldn't take 3 passes to rip a team wide open. And maintaining possession is far too easy. Even on manual passing that was the case last year too.
P.S. Just send me as well so I can get a free trip since I proposed this AMAZING idea.... LOL!
#OSNationUnite :)
That would be amazing. The question is, do Konami really want more of a sim experience? Seems like they've been taking their cues from FIFA 13 ever since they switched to the Fox engine. End-to-end play combined with microtransactions. That's their formula.
Adam and Asim are doing an amazing job though, guys. They are listening to all feedback. Even if it doesn't appear in Twitter or reviews, they are listening and so are the devs.
Let's just hope while FIFA is resting on their laurels, that PES steps up to the plate.
PES2018 looks promissing this year... i know, still some flaws, but looking good!
advanced instructions vs. ad. instructions off:
i see some nice new animations! gk seem improved but there is still potential. where isnt!? but i like what i see this year...! :popcorn:
Shouldn't be seeing CPU defense looking foolish, getting caught out on counter attacks early in the match. Should start out at least a little more cautious than that. Unfortunately I think that's the Youtube/FUT effect, of needing constant action. But even FIFA has more mid-field battles than this.
nice gp compilation in that tweet:
https://twitter.com/PESFannews/status/882633508790972416
that is by far the best animations I ever seen in a footie video game before.... I'm pretty pumped to try out this beta
I might have to buy both games this year.
maybe it's because I play to much fifa the last few years .. I dunno
but that gameplay looks great to me. I will wait until I play the beta