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NHL 22 Patch Available - Includes Player Likeness Updates, Gameplay Improvements & Much More - Patch Notes

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NHL 22 Patch Available - Includes Player Likeness Updates, Gameplay Improvements & Much More - Patch Notes

A new NHL 22 patch is scheduled to arrive tomorrow featuring player likeness updates, gameplay, AI and goalie improvements. The update also includes fixes and improvements for physics, shooting and modes throughout the game. Check out the patch notes below.

UPDATE: (11-4) The NHL 22 patch is available now.

Players Likeness Updates

  • Kirill Kaprizov – Minnesota Wild
  • Nico Sturm – Minnesota Wild
  • Torey Krug – St. Louis Blues
  • K’Andre Miller – New York Rangers

Gameplay

Receptions, Pickups and Interceptions

  • Fixes for some rare cases where the puck would go through the players stick blade as they turn to intercept a pass
  • Tuned AI reaction time to be more optimistic while carrying the puck, more human-like on loose pucks and how they defend against the puck carrier
  • Improved some cases where players would attempt reaching disrupts that are risky when players could wait and block it more consistent
  • Fixed an issue where players would unintentionally spin around when picking up a puck while continuing to hold vision control
  • Improved bobble control to keep the puck closer to the intended receiver instead of it redirecting towards the initial pass direction when players who are back skating are unable to play a clean reception
  • Improved defensive deflections to get a bigger piece of the puck and steer it further off course when possible to disrupt the play more effectively
  • Changed logic for player reaction time on loose pucks so that they don’t have to re-react and look clumsy when they were the last player to touch the puck intentionally
  • Various animation improvements

AI

  • Improvements to cases where AI defenders were turning their backs on the puck carrier in the slot when it would be more ideal to be facing up the ice
  • Improved cases where AI defenders would skate away from the puck carrier after grazing the back of the net
  • Improvements where AI wouldn’t choose to get the puck behind their net
  • Improved a case on the rush where against the PK puck carriers were able to skate straight up the middle untouched consistently
  • Fixed cases where the AI wouldn’t hustle on potential breakaways
  • Improvements to offensive AI looking for one timers that are parking themselves too close to the middle of the net

Goalies

  • Fix for cases where goalies would do a late save animation when not near the puck
  • Fixed some cases where the goalie would start a push animation when the puck carrier is about to collide with them, causing pucks to go underneath for goals
  • Fix for when the AI goalie would dump the puck into the bench consistently when pressured
  • Improved cases where goalies would attempt covers through the side of the net
  • General tuning for how the ai goalie tracks the puck

Physics

  • Further improvements to stick in physics regarding the strength of a defenders stick versus a puck carriers legs based on leverage and/or how much the stick impedes the player
  • Fix to keep the stick in physics during one timers longer
  • Fixed an issue where players could slingshot themselves forward after incidental contact with defender
  • Reduced the arm swing & snap of the free arm when skating close to the boards with the free arm on the board side to minimize problems of arms getting stuck on the boards
  • Fixed a case where player’s arms would break as their stick collides with a player in poke check

Shooting

  • Added more variety to deflection location on deflections that push the puck down based off Hand eye rating
  • Improved catch and release one timers from long distance that were not being treated as good quality shots
  • Improvements to shot selections where reaching shots were being chosen instead of ideal shots from where the puck starts
  • Fixed an issue where deflections could redirect the puck unrealistically if the original shot changed direction
  • Tuned cases where players were able to react too quickly to a disrupted pass while in a one timer windup

General

  • Fix to just disallow goals instead of giving a minor penalty on goalie interference that does not knock over the goalie
  • Tuned sticklift targeting in situations where players unintentionally were overshooting ideal stick lift target
  • Improved cases where poke checks would sometimes stop on their way towards the puck resulting in weaker pokes than intended
  • Fixed an issue where after hitting an opponent and causing a injury/fight, players would fail pickups on the puck for no reason
  • Fix for time window being too short when accepting a fight after the whistle
  • Fixed a few issues where players would remain stuck in unrealistic animations during offplay when attempting to share their stick
  • Fix for users who were getting an excessive amount of penalties in EASHL drop-in was not resulting in that user getting kicked from game
  • Various gameplay crash and desync fixes

World of Chel

  • Added additional content into WoC for upcoming Chel challenges. Check back often to collect the latest cool new content.
  • Added new goal music and animations to creation zone
  • Fixed an issue where the text is appearing the wrong color during the intermissions of a Threes Eliminator game
  • Fixed an issue where some Creation Zone text was too dark to be legible
  • Fixed the text color on Report content screen so it is visible against the light background in EASHL Drop-in
  • Fixed the text color not being legible against the background during the intermission waiting to resume screen
  • Fixed a debug text issue for a Zone Ability in the Edit Loadout screen
  • Fixed an issue where max character names were overlapping X-Factors icons in the dressing room
  • Fixed an issue where the World of Chel end of season screen text was illegible
  • Fixed an issue where tabbing away from clubs was causing other text to change colors
  • Fixed a legibility issue with the Ones Eliminator Accessibility screen
  • Fixed a text issue that explains which divisions qualify to play in which cups during Club Finals
  • Fixed an issue where black text was on a dark background when loading into a club finals match
  • Fixed an issue where the instant replay interface would overlap in game after selecting it as the pause menu timer reached 0
  • Fixed an issue where new users were receiving a message “you are no longer part of the club” when that user has not yet been on any club
  • Fixed a desync that would occur during 6v6 EASHL matches
  • Fixed an issue where the Club Finals history text remained on screen after tabbing away from the screen
  • Fixed multiple issue where tabbing away from a screen quickly would sometimes cause text corruption
  • Fixed several creation zone item identification issues
  • Fixed an issue where button input functionality wasn’t responding correctly after backing out of a Dressing Room
  • Fixed an issue where the screen wasn’t properly handling a user being removed from a dressing room if they were editing a loadout
  • Fixed an issue where some Club Jerseys color selectors were not correctly reflecting the selected colors
  • Fixed an issue where the Rewards tab indicator would be present when there was no reward bags to open
  • Fixed an issue where the time stamp was missing in instant replay for Ones Eliminator
  • Fixed an issue where removing a user from the home group while they were still in the post-game flow didn’t remove that user
  • Fixed an issue where the change jersey image in Post-Matchup Dressing Room was too big
  • Fixed an issue so Private session Dressing room passwords are now displaying the case sensitive password
  • Fixed an issue where applying a front logo to a club jerseys would disappear when the user returned to the World of Chel Hub
  • Fixed an issue where the play by play names wouldn’t update when a player of club name was changed
  • Fixed an issue where the cache wouldn’t refresh after a challenge card item was being claimed
  • Fixed an issue where the warning wasn’t being displayed after resetting attributes in edit loadout
  • Fixed an issue where changing modes while editing loadout would cause World of Chel Hub Tabs to appear
  • Fixed an issue where input would sometimes become laggy after changing your loadout in a dressing room
  • Fixed an issue where the Social Widget option would disappear when changing Game modes
  • Fixed an issue where players were not being removed from EASHL Drop-in games for poor team play if they got too many penalties
  • Fixed the scrolling speed for edit player and creation zone
  • Fixed an issue where the controller would lose down input functionality customize club from the club creation flow
  • Fixed an issue where all modes became locked after joining an Club
  • Fixed an issue where an X-factor icon would sometime light up for a player sitting in the penalty box
  • Fixed an issue where a clubs Away Jersey would be displayed in the World Of Chel Hub instead of the Home jersey after exiting creation zone
  • Fixed a hang that would sometimes happen when loading into a Threes Eliminator game
  • Fixed an issue where accepting an invite while on a loading screen would lead to soft locking the opponent after matching up
  • Fixed an issue where the World of Chel hub environment would break if the user accepted an invite during the post-game flow
  • Fixed a first time user experience that resulted in the World of Chel hub environment lighting being too bright

Franchise Mode

  • Added X-Factor filter into Player search
  • Fixed an issue where the free agent status on the contract offer overlay was sometimes incorrect
  • Fixed an issue where the team abbreviation was not always showing on Full Career Stats
  • Fixed an issue where an NHL goalie could have an AHL goalie mask assigned
  • Fixed an issue where Career Goals was not always updating in the record book
  • Fixed an issue with the Draft Lottery popup was not showing all 16 teams that missed the playoffs
  • Fixed an issue in 33rd team Expansion where the 2021 Draft Class were already on their respective teams
  • Improved line chemistry visibility
  • Misc UI Fixes

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Be a Pro

  • Fixed logic that caused long term storylines not to spawn
  • Fixed logic that caused some storylines to spawn when they weren’t supposed to
  • Fixed X-Factor unlock progress that wasn’t being properly displayed in the abilities screen
  • Fixed an issue where Franchise Record conversations were showing in the rookie season when the user was drafted to Seattle
  • Misc Conversation fixes
  • Misc UI fixes

HUT

  • Added an option to Autofill Sets from the Trade Pile
  • Added an option to Deactivate Abilities for all players in the Ability Limits screen
  • Added the Item Type name in the Player Bio for non-Upgradeable Items
  • Added the ability to Claim Objective Rewards from the Post-Game screen
  • Fixed multiple issues with illegible text (white text on white background or black text on black background)
  • Fixed an issue where Player and Goalie stats were not accurate when presented before a faceoff
  • Fixed an issue in Edit Lineup where viewing Player Information would sometimes view the wrong player
  • Fixed an issue where Inbox and Opened Pack counts don’t refresh in the Manage Inbox popup after completing a Set
  • Fixed an issue where Relist All appeared as an option when Comparing Prices from the Trade Pile
  • Fixed an issue where the ‘In Reverse’ Ability text was not legible in the Player Information screen
  • Fixed a crash that happened when switching from Compare Price to the Player Information screen in the Trade Pile
  • Fixed a crash that would occur when changing profiles on a guest before advancing to a game
  • Fixed a crash that would sometimes occur during Play of the Period in Squad Battles

Art

Updated the following Center Ice layouts

  • Updated Anaheim Ducks Center Ice Line
  • Fixed Colorado Avalanche Ball Arena logo to be black
  • Fixed Columbus Blue Jackets Nationwide Arena text to be black not blue
  • Updated the Dallas Stars Center Ice Logo
  • Updated the Florida Panthers Center Ice logo
  • Fixed St. Louis Blues center ice circle and logo to the proper sizing
  • Fixed Winnipeg Jets Center changed faceoff dot to blue

Uniforms

The following uniforms have been added or updated in NHL 22

NHL

  • Los Angeles Kings Alternate

AHL

  • Chicago Wolves Alternate
  • Providence Bruins Home, Away and Alternate

ECHL

  • Kansas City Mavericks Home, Away and Alternate
  • Orlando Solar Bears Alternate
  • Rapid City Rush Home, Away and Alternate
  • Tulsa Oilers Alternate and 4th Alternate

Canadian Hockey League

  • Baie-Comeau Drakkar Home and Away
  • Gatineau Olympiques Home and Away
  • Kingston Frontenacs Home and Away
  • Moose Jaw Warriors Away
  • Prince Albert Raiders Home and Away
  • Quebec Remparts Alternate
  • Regina Pats Alternate

ICE Hockey League

  • Dornbirn Bulldogs Home and Away
  • EC GRAND Immo VSV Home and Away
  • EC-KAC Home and Away
  • EC Red Bull Salzburg Home and Away
  • HYDRO Fehervar AV 19 Home and Away
  • Moser Medical Graz 99’ers Home and Away
  • HC TWK Innsbruck “Die Haie” Home and Away
  • iClinic Bratislava Capitals Home and Away
  • SPUSU Vienna Capitals Home and Away
  • Steinbach Black Wings Linz Home and Away

Improvements

  • Fixed the St. Louis Blues All-Star arena ice to show the proper art

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  1. Lots of great fixes.. can't wait! I can finally start my Blues franchise.
    Once I posted on EA forums was that bright green color on the line chemistry.. it's much better on the eyes with that dark green in the screenshot.
    It wasn't mentioned, but really hope they adjust the color of white road helmets on a number of teams. Washington has cream-colored helmets in the game, looks terrible. Pittsburgh too. Minor thing but seems easily fixable.
    MizzouRah
    Yeah servers are down, I wanted to see if they updated the rosters with the Eichel trade from last night.
    3.73GB XSX

    No chance they did that in time
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    No updated roster, the Nov 2nd roster is back up. I think I'll wait until the next roster update before starting my Blues franchise. (I would guess it will be out soon due to the Eichel trade)
    MajorBuzz
    Seems the choppiness is still there at slower game speeds…
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    Pardon the interuption, regarding the "low speed choppiness" is that PS4 or PS5?
    THANK YOU
    johnnydrum
    Pardon the interuption, regarding the "low speed choppiness" is that PS4 or PS5?
    THANK YOU

    PS5
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    MizzouRah
    No updated roster, the Nov 2nd roster is back up. I think I'll wait until the next roster update before starting my Blues franchise. (I would guess it will be out soon due to the Eichel trade)

    Would wait two weeks, than many AHL freshman cleared waiver form and will be in.
    At least they fixed the cream color of the helmets of away jerseys and the scene on the penalty bench. (Now I have time to read the penalty)
    Its something.
    Travolterjohn
    Would wait two weeks, than many AHL freshman cleared waiver form and will be in.

    Good idea... I'm still engrossed in my M22 CFM anyway.
    Apparently when you do expansion mode in franchise it will ask you want to use deafult or custom rosters now which wasn't there before the patch
    Now in Franchise mode if you want to try and extend the contract or an RFA it does not tell you when they become a UFA.
    You can extend them for 8 years and it still says contract status RFA.
    Guess at this point may as well keep on waiting to start a franchise and wait for the AHLers to clear waivers in 2 weeks
    AllIn989
    Apparently when you do expansion mode in franchise it will ask you want to use deafult or custom rosters now which wasn't there before the patch

    Are numbers on created teams jerseys?
    MizzouRah
    Yeah servers are down, I wanted to see if they updated the rosters with the Eichel trade from last night.
    3.73GB XSX
    Negative ghost rider!!! That really was confirmed this morning. I did notice they FINALLY have Chinakhov on CBJ, which that was the important one for me.
    They still have Eichel listed as a 91... The guy is injured, hell, he wasn't a 91 last year before he was injured, he only had 2 goals... They really need to knock him down quite a bit, especially since who knows how the surgery will affect his game. I'd say 80 at the highest... All this trade will do will inflate Vegas overall.
    I wish they would add an option for players on the IR to begin a season for Franchise mode. Like you could put Eichel on a mid season IR (still no guarantee he will return this year)... Could have put Crosby on a 5 game, etc. Then you have Rask, still in Free Agents with an inflated OVR of 90. In Franchise unless you edit rosters and dump him somewhere, he is always picked up quick, just as is Filipula who is in Free Agents and also on an overseas team...
    Just tried the " new" Kirill Kaprizov...... and as far as I can tell (after playing a game) the Commentary STILL dosnt say his name in the Play by Play.......
    gsize19
    Negative ghost rider!!! That really was confirmed this morning. I did notice they FINALLY have Chinakhov on CBJ, which that was the important one for me.
    They still have Eichel listed as a 91... The guy is injured, hell, he wasn't a 91 last year before he was injured, he only had 2 goals... They really need to knock him down quite a bit, especially since who knows how the surgery will affect his game. I'd say 80 at the highest... All this trade will do will inflate Vegas overall.
    I wish they would add an option for players on the IR to begin a season for Franchise mode. Like you could put Eichel on a mid season IR (still no guarantee he will return this year)... Could have put Crosby on a 5 game, etc. Then you have Rask, still in Free Agents with an inflated OVR of 90. In Franchise unless you edit rosters and dump him somewhere, he is always picked up quick, just as is Filipula who is in Free Agents and also on an overseas team...

    Move Filippula to Geneve-Servette of the Swiss National League. Why isn't Rask signed? Will have to look that up.
    DallasRocks
    Scored a goal in HUT and then it wouldn’t let me skip past the celebration and I was forced to quit. Never happened prior to patch

    Same happens to me in franchise mode after the patch. Two games in a row and I have to quit the app because the game does not move on from the celebration.
    I also had the syncing issue in franchise. Glad I just scored the 5-3 with a few seconds left. Quit, and won 5-4 through simulation. Frustrating though.
    Also I scored 3 (!) goals that game, coming from the corner going cross the crease (with one player, no pass). I am pretty sure I tried it before and never even came close to score before the patch. I know the goal worked in prior NHL versions.
    DallasRocks
    Scored a goal in HUT and then it wouldn’t let me skip past the celebration and I was forced to quit. Never happened prior to patch
    Had the same thing happen to me in Franchise mode last night... Prior to the patch, it never happened...
    imalanh1
    Move Filippula to Geneve-Servette of the Swiss National League. Why isn't Rask signed? Will have to look that up.
    He is already on the Swiss team, that's the point, you can't move him there, they won't let you duplicate a player, he should be removed from free agents...
    gsize19
    Negative ghost rider!!! That really was confirmed this morning. I did notice they FINALLY have Chinakhov on CBJ, which that was the important one for me.
    They still have Eichel listed as a 91... The guy is injured, hell, he wasn't a 91 last year before he was injured, he only had 2 goals... They really need to knock him down quite a bit, especially since who knows how the surgery will affect his game. I'd say 80 at the highest... All this trade will do will inflate Vegas overall.
    I wish they would add an option for players on the IR to begin a season for Franchise mode. Like you could put Eichel on a mid season IR (still no guarantee he will return this year)... Could have put Crosby on a 5 game, etc. Then you have Rask, still in Free Agents with an inflated OVR of 90. In Franchise unless you edit rosters and dump him somewhere, he is always picked up quick, just as is Filipula who is in Free Agents and also on an overseas team...

    I’ll have whatever he is smoking... Eichel an 80 overall lmfao
    SocialAssassin
    HEY WE GOT NEW PLAYER LIKENESSES IN OUR NEW PATCH!
    Oh cool, how many?
    ..........four.
    LMFAO.

    But no play by play for Kaprizov......maybe when EAs Hockey people get to know him better eh?
    Eichel is washed up... He will NEVER play again at the level he was expected to play at Buffalo... In two years, EA will be rating him a 70 like they do for those players that are still under contract yet retired due to an injury (like Seabrook, Kesler, Shaw and Ferland to name a few)... He has played one FULL season and that was his first... He is fragile, and now with a neck injury, you may as well call him SHATTERED!!!
    gsize19
    Eichel is washed up... He will NEVER play again at the level he was expected to play at Buffalo... In two years, EA will be rating him a 70 like they do for those players that are still under contract yet retired due to an injury (like Seabrook, Kesler, Shaw and Ferland to name a few)... He has played one FULL season and that was his first... He is fragile, and now with a neck injury, you may as well call him SHATTERED!!!

    Go to sleep
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    I stopped playing Franchise till EA fixes the freezing after a goal and i stopped playing expansion mode till they can fix the logos on jerseys so when they can fix the freezing i will prob play classic till theirs a fix for expansion mode
    I have been enjoying 22 so far. Since the last update I have 4 goals that I have scored were a result of the defense knocking it in their own net. Anyone else seeing this?
    I play on All Star. Hope all is well, I am still around
    I see they’re adding jerseys… but they still haven’t fixed the helmets and gloves on some home/coloured jerseys. Especially the Canucks! That’s an eye sore. I think they only changed the tones on the jersey but left the helmet and gloves alone from the past versions which sucks. Even my Leafs has a different tone. Jersey has been redone but the helmet are still slightly lighter.
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    This patch has boke the game... I have had on three occasions now, after scoring a goal, the game freezes and loops in an initializing mode... You either have to start the game over or quit the game which usually means it results in a different outcome than how you have been playing... Had two shut outs going in my franchise, then scoring a goal, game froze (kept saying syncing) where I had to quit resulting in a 3-1 win (which I think I would have shut them out) and a 4-3 Loss, but I was up 2-0 when the game froze and forced me to quit...
    gsize19
    This patch has boke the game... I have had on three occasions now, after scoring a goal, the game freezes and loops in an initializing mode... You either have to start the game over or quit the game which usually means it results in a different outcome than how you have been playing... Had two shut outs going in my franchise, then scoring a goal, game froze (kept saying syncing) where I had to quit resulting in a 3-1 win (which I think I would have shut them out) and a 4-3 Loss, but I was up 2-0 when the game froze and forced me to quit...

    Did you start a new Franchise Dynasty after the patch ? I played some games with old existing Franchise Dynasty which I started before the patch was released and had no problems with this freezing so far.
    Travolterjohn
    Did you start a new Franchise Dynasty after the patch ? I played some games with old existing Franchise Dynasty which I started before the patch was released and had no problems with this freezing so far.

    I did... Maybe I will try the other one...
    Travolterjohn
    Did you start a new Franchise Dynasty after the patch ? I played some games with old existing Franchise Dynasty which I started before the patch was released and had no problems with this freezing so far.

    I went with the Franchise I was playing before the patch, same issue, it froze when I was up 4-1 after I scored the 4th goal...
    gsize19
    I went with the Franchise I was playing before the patch, same issue, it froze when I was up 4-1 after I scored the 4th goal...

    Maybe try your Franchise with the same Roster from which you started it ? Not the newest as active. You play which console ? I have PS4
    Travolterjohn
    Maybe try your Franchise with the same Roster from which you started it ? Not the newest as active. You play which console ? I have PS4

    PS4... I mean, playing the original franchise I started was the original roster, not the newest... I made a lot of edits to get the NHL and AHL pretty current, that Franchise froze also...

    Downloaded and use the tuner update....still seeing issues that I didn't see at all prior. Just had a play where the CPU injured one of my players and was about to get a penalty. Game just got stuck with time stopped but the puck and players still moved around the ice. Couldn't actually pick up the puck and time was frozen anyway. Only could exit out of the game.
    This stinks, prior to patch was really enjoying the game.
    AllIn989
    Thats not good did they not test the patch before putting it out i mean seriously

    It happened literally in my first game in the first period after applying the tuner....didn't take much for me to find it, guessing they don't test much sadly:(
    gsize19
    Eichel is washed up... He will NEVER play again at the level he was expected to play at Buffalo... In two years, EA will be rating him a 70 like they do for those players that are still under contract yet retired due to an injury (like Seabrook, Kesler, Shaw and Ferland to name a few)... He has played one FULL season and that was his first... He is fragile, and now with a neck injury, you may as well call him SHATTERED!!!

    The guys scored 18 points in 21 games last year, basically a point per game with a bulging disk in his neck. If that’s washed up, I will take a washed up jack eichel any day of the week. I find it hard to believe you actually watch hockey
    Therebelyell626
    The guys scored 18 points in 21 games last year, basically a point per game with a bulging disk in his neck. If that’s washed up, I will take a washed up jack eichel any day of the week. I find it hard to believe you actually watch hockey
    2 goals in 21 games a 3.3% shooting percentage, and this from an ELITE center??? Give me a break!!!... Yeah, he is a star center!!! LOL oh and he is a -69 or something in his career... Boy, he should win the Selke every year!!! LMAO!!! I am surprised you do really... Ironically, I have a great friend who is a head coach in the NHL of a West Coast team in SoCal... Eichel is a cancer!! has been since he has played... People say Laine doesn't play defense actually probably has never seen Eichel play, worst defensive forward in the NHL... But you are out in SoCal yourself, probably have never seen ice in your life, nor played on it...
    Well 2nd game after tuner fix and the 2nd game with lockup that never saw before patch. Score late goal in overtime and the game freezes again as the player celebrates.
    Game not playable now with the frequent chances of freeze, wish they had a way for us to remove patches
    gsize19
    2 goals in 21 games a 3.3% shooting percentage, and this from an ELITE center??? Give me a break!!!... Yeah, he is a star center!!! LOL oh and he is a -69 or something in his career... Boy, he should win the Selke every year!!! LMAO!!! I am surprised you do really... Ironically, I have a great friend who is a head coach in the NHL of a West Coast team in SoCal... Eichel is a cancer!! has been since he has played... People say Laine doesn't play defense actually probably has never seen Eichel play, worst defensive forward in the NHL... But you are out in SoCal yourself, probably have never seen ice in your life, nor played on it...

    Go. To. Sleep.
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    Anyone notice the gameplay has gotten worse since the patch i played a games against the kraken didnt like it thought it was better before the patch altho i was playing on pro i might go to superstar tomm see if its any better
    AllIn989
    Anyone notice the gameplay has gotten worse since the patch i played a games against the kraken didnt like it thought it was better before the patch altho i was playing on pro i might go to superstar tomm see if its any better

    I see it the other way around. I don't know exactly what EA has changed, but it certainly feels better to me. Somehow the gameplay feels more fluid, more direct, more comprehensible. In any case, the difficulty level PRO has become easier since the patch. On the other hand, the SUPERSTAR difficulty has become even harder. After the patch I had to adjust the sliders for my goalkeeper because almost every second shot of the AI led to a goal.
    AllIn989
    Anyone notice the gameplay has gotten worse since the patch i played a games against the kraken didnt like it thought it was better before the patch altho i was playing on pro i might go to superstar tomm see if its any better

    Yeah thought the same, playing on all-star. Might be placebo effect. Will go to superstar aswell.
    Unfortunately with the games freezes since the patch and tuner, can’t play a game without having the issue showing, preventing me from really seeing any changes to gameplay. With the gameplay I could complete, didn’t see a ton of differences, although I had pretty good games before the patch so might be hard for me to judge
    Is it me or is it easier now to get in offensive zone now? I’m playing on superstar default sliders except for penalties maxed
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    Quick question. I'm not a big hokey guy, I'm barely a casual fan. Although my buddy and I are trying to watch more Blue Jackets games this year. I've always found hockey games to be fun, but never put a lot of time into them. I don't think I've bought a NHL game since 2008. So as you can probably guess, is this game good enough this year where it could provide me a fun, non frustrating experience to get into?
    I just hate to buy it and be done in a week. Since a couple places have buy 2 games get 1 free going on right now, I was thinking of taking advantage of it.
    Thanks!
    Sadly nothing was fixed with this patch. The puck still goes through your players. Poking was not balanced. The AI still doesn't open up to allow for proper cycling plays and goaltending is as bad as ever, if not worse.
    Playing franchise or BaP, my teammates constantly run away with the puck instead of passing it out of the zone (or dumping it) and get caught in their zone, thus giving up the puck. It's sad.
    Playing any online mode, you're still subjected to the goal "freeze", even after the emergency gameplay update, except that now when it happens they forced the game to reset after 20 seconds of replay (if the game doesn't unfreeze). That's not a fix, it's a band-aid.
    Rest assured you HUT maniacs, your new cards and stats will be updated on time. :rolleyes:
    It's clear where the priorities lie with this game, and it's such a shame. The game still has plenty of potential, just the direction leaves a lot to be desired. Again, very sad.
    PVarck31
    Quick question. I'm not a big hokey guy, I'm barely a casual fan. Although my buddy and I are trying to watch more Blue Jackets games this year. I've always found hockey games to be fun, but never put a lot of time into them. I don't think I've bought a NHL game since 2008. So as you can probably guess, is this game good enough this year where it could provide me a fun, non frustrating experience to get into?
    I just hate to buy it and be done in a week. Since a couple places have buy 2 games get 1 free going on right now, I was thinking of taking advantage of it.
    Thanks!

    I am a hockey fan and the game is a blast to play. Don't listen to all the complainers, it's as fast or slow easy or hard as you want to make it. Some complain about their cpu teammates but I don't play with player lock I'm always switching control to which ever one of my teammates is closest to the puck. Do my players sometimes get out of position by doing this...oh yeah big time on occasion but who cares it's fun.:waytogo: I'm using an xbx by the way.
    gsize19
    2 goals in 21 games a 3.3% shooting percentage, and this from an ELITE center??? Give me a break!!!... Yeah, he is a star center!!! LOL oh and he is a -69 or something in his career... Boy, he should win the Selke every year!!! LMAO!!! I am surprised you do really... Ironically, I have a great friend who is a head coach in the NHL of a West Coast team in SoCal... Eichel is a cancer!! has been since he has played... People say Laine doesn't play defense actually probably has never seen Eichel play, worst defensive forward in the NHL... But you are out in SoCal yourself, probably have never seen ice in your life, nor played on it...

    So by your theory, being on the west coast there is zero chance I have seen ice or understand the game? I know this may come as a surprise to you but, but there are these things called ice rinks where they are able to use this amazing new technology called central air to maintain a sheet of ice. Shocking I know. Yeah you have already proved my point with this statement
    Just a few players who are from my area who played some level of major junior hockey and made it to the NHL
    Emerson Etem (First round draft pick. Once scores over 60 goals in a WHL season)
    Jason Zucker (Multiple time 20 goal scorer)
    Eric Comrey (NHL quality goal tender and 2rd pick)
    Beau bennett (1rd draft pick)
    Brooks Oprik (long time starting NHL defenseman)
    Rocco Grimaldi (NHL and AHL regular)
    Plus many many more.
    Not too mention Austin Matthews was raised and trained in Phoenix Arizona.
    You ask any GM in the NHL and they would give their left foot for a player of Eichels caliber.
    And I am willing to bet my life savings you are not friends with neither Todd Mclellan or Dallas Eakins
    Therebelyell626
    So by your theory, being on the west coast there is zero chance I have seen ice or understand the game? I know this may come as a surprise to you but, but there are these things called ice rinks where they are able to use this amazing new technology called central air to maintain a sheet of ice. Shocking I know. Yeah you have already proved my point with this statement

    Like saying IF you dont live in Hollywood....you cant possibly understand Movies...lol
    PVarck31
    Quick question. I'm not a big hokey guy, I'm barely a casual fan. Although my buddy and I are trying to watch more Blue Jackets games this year. I've always found hockey games to be fun, but never put a lot of time into them. I don't think I've bought a NHL game since 2008. So as you can probably guess, is this game good enough this year where it could provide me a fun, non frustrating experience to get into?
    I just hate to buy it and be done in a week. Since a couple places have buy 2 games get 1 free going on right now, I was thinking of taking advantage of it.
    Thanks!

    What modes are you trying to play? If you're a casual fan of hockey, I'm sure this game can provide you with some entertainment and you can probably find a slider set here that gives you fun games offline. The less you know about hockey, the more you'll be able to just dive in and enjoy the game. I'm the same way with Madden.
    Heck, I'm a hardcore hockey fan and although I go to extremes to enjoy this game, I still can find ways to make it pretty fun. The main problems many complain about offline who are really passionate about hockey is the AI and how static/still they are + they just have some egregious positioning blunders at times, but like I said, the less you know about the sport and the less experience you have with the video game, the better.
    The controls/mechanics alone will be challenging/fun for you to get the hang of alone, then add-in a casual hockey knowledge, this game will easily be a good experience for you imo. I wouldn't be scared of that. Like I said, I'm the exact same way with Madden. I see a bunch of complaints, but I can just go casually enjoy a game as a casual football fan.
    Travolterjohn
    Isn’t it not every year the same ? First the Community get hyped, than after a while disappointed. I noticed it’s every year the same, or am I wrong ?

    I honestly like it more every time I play it.
    CujoMatty
    I honestly like it more every time I play it.

    Same. I’ve never really bothered posting here much because the haters are so loud. I’ve enjoyed this franchise the past decade just as much as any of the other sports titles except The Show. Lots of room to improve but it’s not a sack of garbage half these guys make it sound like. No effin way
    CujoMatty
    I honestly like it more every time I play it.

    Yeah I agree. I find the gameplay to be enjoyable. Just other little things gets onto me like the jerseys and their helmets/gloves being off this year and how they have the uniforms attached to the rosters instead of through patch but in general gameplay itself is lots of fun to play. No complaints in that department yet.
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    Will I Am
    I am a hockey fan and the game is a blast to play. Don't listen to all the complainers, it's as fast or slow easy or hard as you want to make it. Some complain about their cpu teammates but I don't play with player lock I'm always switching control to which ever one of my teammates is closest to the puck. Do my players sometimes get out of position by doing this...oh yeah big time on occasion but who cares it's fun.:waytogo: I'm using an xbx by the way.

    I'm a hockey fan too. Just because you have no "complaints" doesn't make my, or the thousands of others who bought this game any less valid.
    Did you also know that I played and coached competition level hockey? Does that then make my complaints more or less valid than yours, or yours IRRELEVANT as you seem to imply from those that have them?
    No. We see the game how we want to see it.
    To me, the fact that your AI teammates are lacking is a BIG problem. Hockey is a flowing sport and when my left winger doesn't skate over to the left wing to fill up the void when it's there is a huge complaint. When I play BaP as a goalie, and my AI teammates are constantly running back into their zone with the puck instead of passing it out to the waiting C or W at the red line, then get pushed off the puck and give up a 2 on zero chance to score for the opponent, it's a big deal.
    At the end of the day, it means maybe the game is suited to casuals more than the hardcore. And that shouldn't be the case. The game should allow all levels to be happy playing it. Maybe today you don't care that much about hockey. But eventually you might want to learn more. And when you'll compare the real product to what we have... You'll complain??
    That's why people complain. That's why I complain. Not because I don't want people to buy the game. But because I want the game to be better so EVERYONE can play it with some form of satisfaction rather than disappointment.
    VeNOM3099
    I'm a hockey fan too. Just because you have no "complaints" doesn't make my, or the thousands of others who bought this game any less valid.
    Did you also know that I played and coached competition level hockey? Does that then make my complaints more or less valid than yours, or yours IRRELEVANT as you seem to imply from those that have them?
    No. We see the game how we want to see it.
    To me, the fact that your AI teammates are lacking is a BIG problem. Hockey is a flowing sport and when my left winger doesn't skate over to the left wing to fill up the void when it's there is a huge complaint. When I play BaP as a goalie, and my AI teammates are constantly running back into their zone with the puck instead of passing it out to the waiting C or W at the red line, then get pushed off the puck and give up a 2 on zero chance to score for the opponent, it's a big deal.
    At the end of the day, it means maybe the game is suited to casuals more than the hardcore. And that shouldn't be the case. The game should allow all levels to be happy playing it. Maybe today you don't care that much about hockey. But eventually you might want to learn more. And when you'll compare the real product to what we have... You'll complain??
    That's why people complain. That's why I complain. Not because I don't want people to buy the game. But because I want the game to be better so EVERYONE can play it with some form of satisfaction rather than disappointment.

    I just played a test build of an up and coming indie hockey game, and their AI's foundation is better than EA's already. It's a very early build, but it's proven to me that EA doesn't care or lacks the talent to program more useful AI into the game, and I genuinely don't know which one it is considering how long it's been since there's been a real focus on improving the Ai and the offline on-ice gameplay as a whole.
    Game is in a really sad state if you are passionate about hockey and want to recreate some sort of resemblance of the real sport in this game. AI players constantly standing around momentum-less, human AI teammates don't have any interest in the puck, they'll skate away from a rebound to go "cover" for the dman who took one step in to take a shot rather than simply going for the puck/rebound, and then you get to watch your AI opponent send 2-3 guys to pressure you on the wall with zero hesitation, yet they show absolutely no panic or care if you beat said pressure and start walking down the middle of the slot.
    When I'm leading a rush, my AI constantly skate half speed, never cut, can't even fill lanes properly. The CPU also just kind of slowly glides back into the zone, no DSS, no probing sticks, just casual backskating until you get in-range for a check, then they'll go for some terrible angle hit that you'll skate by and that's the extent of the rush.
    Goalies still don't require footplanting to move, CPU AI still gets to ignore physics and/or cut stumble animations short when it's convenient, they pick passes off they never saw, they still have zero idea on what to do if you go around the net and same with your AI teammates who will all kind of 100-yard stare while standing still as you wheel around the net, bring it high, and can continue this pattern almost infinitely as the other 9 guys will all just kind of stand still and be content with doing absolutely nothing.
    Then presentation this year is fun am I right? Talking about x-factors as if they're real, still no props (they said they had big plans for these in NHL 16, remember?), no light shows, crowd goes silent 3 seconds after a goal, goal horns still more like white noise, same terrible scorebug, still can't get a playoff series indicator, and colors this year look washed out/faded...idk they just are not great.
    This is a $70 product, same as any story-driven game with actual care and polish. I don't think "complaining" about AI that act and play like a college program senior project should be considered "complaining" lol. AI that are semi-engaged, semi-even, and semi-useful should be the least we expect from a AAA product, especially since they're given massive amount of videos and feedback on their official forums every single year by people who care and take the time to do such things.
    There's just no reason to believe in this team/series anymore if you're looking for anything more than a pretty-skinned NHL 94. All of the features and mechanics they have are 100% for show. Game is still a simple, mindless, low-effort sports arcade game to have casual fun with like it was in the 90's.
    VeNOM3099
    I'm a hockey fan too. Just because you have no "complaints" doesn't make my, or the thousands of others who bought this game any less valid.
    Did you also know that I played and coached competition level hockey? Does that then make my complaints more or less valid than yours, or yours IRRELEVANT as you seem to imply from those that have them?
    No. We see the game how we want to see it.
    To me, the fact that your AI teammates are lacking is a BIG problem. Hockey is a flowing sport and when my left winger doesn't skate over to the left wing to fill up the void when it's there is a huge complaint. When I play BaP as a goalie, and my AI teammates are constantly running back into their zone with the puck instead of passing it out to the waiting C or W at the red line, then get pushed off the puck and give up a 2 on zero chance to score for the opponent, it's a big deal.
    At the end of the day, it means maybe the game is suited to casuals more than the hardcore. And that shouldn't be the case. The game should allow all levels to be happy playing it. Maybe today you don't care that much about hockey. But eventually you might want to learn more. And when you'll compare the real product to what we have... You'll complain??
    That's why people complain. That's why I complain. Not because I don't want people to buy the game. But because I want the game to be better so EVERYONE can play it with some form of satisfaction rather than disappointment.

    I guess I just take it for what it's worth, a video game. As far as my teammates being out of position most of that is on me, as I said I switch control to the closest all the time so I get running around to a certain degree.
    Also there isn't one single sports game out there that plays like the real deal either, at least not that I'm aware of. Maybe it's just not as easy as you think it is to have a video sport be 100% accurate.
    Will I Am
    I guess I just take it for what it's worth, a video game. As far as my teammates being out of position most of that is on me, as I said I switch control to the closest all the time so I get running around to a certain degree.
    Also there isn't one single sports game out there that plays like the real deal either, at least not that I'm aware of. Maybe it's just not as easy as you think it is to have a video sport be 100% accurate.

    I think you're selling yourself short if you believe most of your AI positioning problems are on you, because the human's AI teammates might be some of the most useless AI teammates ever seen outside of FIFA's who also don't know how to pressure a ball carrier or execute a trap the human player has setup. At least they have 2nd man press though...
    I also don't care that you enjoy the game, it doesn't bother me, I'm envious really. My post wasn't to say nobody should enjoy the game, the point was that the AI in this game haven't progressed past an early 2000's level where we were all content with shot animations looking better every year and had no time to nitpick the AI. These "complaints" are valid imo and I don't mean to come at anyone who likes the game, I just am also defending the constant complaints as the NHL team hasn't given us much of anything in the last 10 years when it comes to offline on-ice experience.
    And as far as "nitpicking" goes, the AI problems aren't small. They aren't in a spot where they are 95% realistic and I'm asking for 100% realism, it's not even close. I'm by no means asking for the NHL team to deliver an AI performance the gaming industry has never seen before, that would be foolish. But would adding in real forechecking strategies that actually make sense and then having the AI statically execute said forehecks be asking for 100% realism? IMO, no. They already do half-heartedly execute their nonsensical, overly vague forechecks, I'm asking for EA to update those at least once a decade, you know? How about when I set my team to "full attack" my FC/NZ to "full forecheck" and my D to "full pinch" that they stop worrying about guys flying the NZ and simply just pinch and worry about offense? Seems like a simple enough fix, no?
    I've posted this here before, but "1-2-2 Aggressive" means nothing regardless of the description, because all forechecks start with a force side. When you coach hockey, you outline whether we're forcing strong or weak for the period, the shift, the game, whatever, and that greatly impacts how a 1-2-2 is executed. These strategies they have in the game are useless essentially. The logic used to determine to abandon the FC and go to the trap seems arbitrary/nonsensical. So, these aren't "dynamic" qualities like play recognition I'm asking for, these are 1. asking for the AI to simply adhere to the pressure levels already in the game, and 2. to update the static strategies in the game. Nothing world-breaking here, nothing we haven't seen before, I just want a pressure setting that says "players are only thinking about offense" to actually mean that and not retreat to the red line as the strong-side D.
    Then we get into the zone and things get WORSE. Overload, Crash the Net, and Behind the Net have been the same three options since Lindros graced the cover of NHL 99. Yes, NHL 99 offered just as many in-zone strategies as NHL 22. And "crash the net" that sees your wings out by the boards, jostling a defender 10 feet o the side of the net, and standing in the high slot on their backhands is something we should expect to see? Of course not, but that's what we get. An "overload" that overloads a side of the ice then nobody makes a cut towards the slot? What is that lol? I'm glad we have 3 guys standing on the wall, one on the weakside of the slot standing still on his backhand, and one low on the strong side 3-5 feet towards the side of the net, great strategy! Can't believe nothing is opening up!
    How about special teams? "Shooting" powerplay that sees no screens and a static box of 4 equally spaced out 50-60 feet apart with no puck support, awesome! The "umbrella" that has no set positions and sees the entire line of guys scramble to "cover" for each other for 2 straight minutes which ends up looking like someone just flushed a toilet! Useful! Then the "overload" is the same 5v5 overload where we can really outnumber a team on the wall and never threaten the slot or anything because we're all standing still! Sweet! Maybe implement the 1-3-1 that's universally used a the NHL level now? Nah...
    So, these are all "static" asks, you know? Don't have the AI opponent blatantly cheat, update the FC options to thigs that make sense, have the AI respect the pressure settings, all pretty straightforward asks when we're talking about a span of 10+ years (22 in the case of in-zone option updates) no? Not expecting the AI to have a brain like Crosby, I just want them to skate at a loose puck if it's there, be programmed to collapse correctly, and always pinch when I tell them to always pinch.
    Like I said, the AI are on-par with a senior-level college game design project that was built in 9 months. This is a $70 game from a AAA company, I think they can afford a month or two once a decade to update some of these things.
    Will I Am
    I guess I just take it for what it's worth, a video game. As far as my teammates being out of position most of that is on me, as I said I switch control to the closest all the time so I get running around to a certain degree.
    Also there isn't one single sports game out there that plays like the real deal either, at least not that I'm aware of. Maybe it's just not as easy as you think it is to have a video sport be 100% accurate.

    #1. Like I said, it depends on the person playing it. Maybe you're not as "hardcore" as I am. And that's fine. It doesn't mean you can't like or play the game. Plenty of people bought and played Sonic 06 back in the day. Were they allowed to like it? Yes. Does that mean the game is "good"... wellllllllllll.
    #2. It's NOT a simple video game. Final Fantasy is a video game. Pac Man is a video game. Games like NHL or NBA or even Formula One they are built on existing sports. You can't take liberties with something that exists. Maybe if the game was called EA Pro Hockey featuring the NHL and NHLPA players, we'd be less hard on them. But they claim their game is the real thing. It's not. So your reasoning is not sound. It's something one would say to make themselves feel better about their purchase. Again, taking my Sonic example above. I could say the game is technically a Sonic game and I like Sonic. But I couldn't say the game is good because I like it. ;)
    #3. Is there a game that's 100% like the real thing? No. However, there are games that are much closer to the real thing than NHL. Play NBA 2K or PES soccer or F1 2021. That's what a simulation is supposed to be: it simulates real life. EA's NHL doesn't simulate anything. That's a problem to me and many others. Hence the complaints.
    HipNotiiC_x
    I just played a test build of an up and coming indie hockey game, and their AI's foundation is better than EA's already. It's a very early build, but it's proven to me that EA doesn't care or lacks the talent to program more useful AI into the game, and I genuinely don't know which one it is considering how long it's been since there's been a real focus on improving the Ai and the offline on-ice gameplay as a whole.
    Game is in a really sad state if you are passionate about hockey and want to recreate some sort of resemblance of the real sport in this game. AI players constantly standing around momentum-less, human AI teammates don't have any interest in the puck, they'll skate away from a rebound to go "cover" for the dman who took one step in to take a shot rather than simply going for the puck/rebound, and then you get to watch your AI opponent send 2-3 guys to pressure you on the wall with zero hesitation, yet they show absolutely no panic or care if you beat said pressure and start walking down the middle of the slot.
    When I'm leading a rush, my AI constantly skate half speed, never cut, can't even fill lanes properly. The CPU also just kind of slowly glides back into the zone, no DSS, no probing sticks, just casual backskating until you get in-range for a check, then they'll go for some terrible angle hit that you'll skate by and that's the extent of the rush.
    Goalies still don't require footplanting to move, CPU AI still gets to ignore physics and/or cut stumble animations short when it's convenient, they pick passes off they never saw, they still have zero idea on what to do if you go around the net and same with your AI teammates who will all kind of 100-yard stare while standing still as you wheel around the net, bring it high, and can continue this pattern almost infinitely as the other 9 guys will all just kind of stand still and be content with doing absolutely nothing.
    Then presentation this year is fun am I right? Talking about x-factors as if they're real, still no props (they said they had big plans for these in NHL 16, remember?), no light shows, crowd goes silent 3 seconds after a goal, goal horns still more like white noise, same terrible scorebug, still can't get a playoff series indicator, and colors this year look washed out/faded...idk they just are not great.
    This is a $70 product, same as any story-driven game with actual care and polish. I don't think "complaining" about AI that act and play like a college program senior project should be considered "complaining" lol. AI that are semi-engaged, semi-even, and semi-useful should be the least we expect from a AAA product, especially since they're given massive amount of videos and feedback on their official forums every single year by people who care and take the time to do such things.
    There's just no reason to believe in this team/series anymore if you're looking for anything more than a pretty-skinned NHL 94. All of the features and mechanics they have are 100% for show. Game is still a simple, mindless, low-effort sports arcade game to have casual fun with like it was in the 90's.

    whats the game??
    is it the tape to tape game?
    MJ200
    whats the game??
    is it the tape to tape game?

    It's funny that HipNotiiC_x said that NHL 22 (and prior versions) have mostly been a 70$ version of NHL 94.
    Go play 94 (or the Classic version that came with NHL 21) and it's virtually the same game. Except one is 3D and the other is 2D. Sorry, but that's not good enough. It's 2021 and we have super computers (basically) as consoles. This is supposedly a AAA game and we're being charged as such. You telling me you CAN'T figure how to make Artificial Intelligence be more intelligent than the one 30 years ago when other companies, with less money I might add, have figured it out???
    C'mon EA...
    You wanna charge us 120$ for your "AAA" game, then make a AAA game. Not something that crashes every 2 seconds. Not one where your CPU teammates are as useless as posts. Not one with so many issues it makes Sonic Boom look like a GOTY contender.
    VeNOM3099
    It's funny that HipNotiiC_x said that NHL 22 (and prior versions) have mostly been a 70$ version of NHL 94.
    Go play 94 (or the Classic version that came with NHL 21) and it's virtually the same game. Except one is 3D and the other is 2D. Sorry, but that's not good enough. It's 2021 and we have super computers (basically) as consoles. This is supposedly a AAA game and we're being charged as such. You telling me you CAN'T figure how to make Artificial Intelligence be more intelligent than the one 30 years ago when other companies, with less money I might add, have figured it out???
    C'mon EA...
    You wanna charge us 120$ for your "AAA" game, then make a AAA game. Not something that crashes every 2 seconds. Not one where your CPU teammates are as useless as posts. Not one with so many issues it makes Sonic Boom look like a GOTY contender.

    I guess the Michigan and Halloween WoC gear are higher priorities than having AI not stand still and repeat the same tired patterns for over a decade...
    Can’t sum it up much better than this. Implementing all of this and it actually work would make the human vs AI experience 100x better. Not saying this is necessary but would love to see a detailed breakdown from you of all aspects of the game that can be improved like this
    HipNotiiC_x
    I think you're selling yourself short if you believe most of your AI positioning problems are on you, because the human's AI teammates might be some of the most useless AI teammates ever seen outside of FIFA's who also don't know how to pressure a ball carrier or execute a trap the human player has setup. At least they have 2nd man press though...
    I also don't care that you enjoy the game, it doesn't bother me, I'm envious really. My post wasn't to say nobody should enjoy the game, the point was that the AI in this game haven't progressed past an early 2000's level where we were all content with shot animations looking better every year and had no time to nitpick the AI. These "complaints" are valid imo and I don't mean to come at anyone who likes the game, I just am also defending the constant complaints as the NHL team hasn't given us much of anything in the last 10 years when it comes to offline on-ice experience.
    And as far as "nitpicking" goes, the AI problems aren't small. They aren't in a spot where they are 95% realistic and I'm asking for 100% realism, it's not even close. I'm by no means asking for the NHL team to deliver an AI performance the gaming industry has never seen before, that would be foolish. But would adding in real forechecking strategies that actually make sense and then having the AI statically execute said forehecks be asking for 100% realism? IMO, no. They already do half-heartedly execute their nonsensical, overly vague forechecks, I'm asking for EA to update those at least once a decade, you know? How about when I set my team to "full attack" my FC/NZ to "full forecheck" and my D to "full pinch" that they stop worrying about guys flying the NZ and simply just pinch and worry about offense? Seems like a simple enough fix, no?
    I've posted this here before, but "1-2-2 Aggressive" means nothing regardless of the description, because all forechecks start with a force side. When you coach hockey, you outline whether we're forcing strong or weak for the period, the shift, the game, whatever, and that greatly impacts how a 1-2-2 is executed. These strategies they have in the game are useless essentially. The logic used to determine to abandon the FC and go to the trap seems arbitrary/nonsensical. So, these aren't "dynamic" qualities like play recognition I'm asking for, these are 1. asking for the AI to simply adhere to the pressure levels already in the game, and 2. to update the static strategies in the game. Nothing world-breaking here, nothing we haven't seen before, I just want a pressure setting that says "players are only thinking about offense" to actually mean that and not retreat to the red line as the strong-side D.
    Then we get into the zone and things get WORSE. Overload, Crash the Net, and Behind the Net have been the same three options since Lindros graced the cover of NHL 99. Yes, NHL 99 offered just as many in-zone strategies as NHL 22. And "crash the net" that sees your wings out by the boards, jostling a defender 10 feet o the side of the net, and standing in the high slot on their backhands is something we should expect to see? Of course not, but that's what we get. An "overload" that overloads a side of the ice then nobody makes a cut towards the slot? What is that lol? I'm glad we have 3 guys standing on the wall, one on the weakside of the slot standing still on his backhand, and one low on the strong side 3-5 feet towards the side of the net, great strategy! Can't believe nothing is opening up!
    How about special teams? "Shooting" powerplay that sees no screens and a static box of 4 equally spaced out 50-60 feet apart with no puck support, awesome! The "umbrella" that has no set positions and sees the entire line of guys scramble to "cover" for each other for 2 straight minutes which ends up looking like someone just flushed a toilet! Useful! Then the "overload" is the same 5v5 overload where we can really outnumber a team on the wall and never threaten the slot or anything because we're all standing still! Sweet! Maybe implement the 1-3-1 that's universally used a the NHL level now? Nah...
    So, these are all "static" asks, you know? Don't have the AI opponent blatantly cheat, update the FC options to thigs that make sense, have the AI respect the pressure settings, all pretty straightforward asks when we're talking about a span of 10+ years (22 in the case of in-zone option updates) no? Not expecting the AI to have a brain like Crosby, I just want them to skate at a loose puck if it's there, be programmed to collapse correctly, and always pinch when I tell them to always pinch.
    Like I said, the AI are on-par with a senior-level college game design project that was built in 9 months. This is a $70 game from a AAA company, I think they can afford a month or two once a decade to update some of these things.
    SkeeLo15
    Can’t sum it up much better than this. Implementing all of this and it actually work would make the human vs AI experience 100x better. Not saying this is necessary but would love to see a detailed breakdown from you of all aspects of the game that can be improved like this

    Thanks man. I do like breaking this game down because I care, I want it to be better for all. Posts like this make me continue doing things like this haha. I certainly am not trying to be a grumpy guy, these critical posts are to highlight how much us offliners have been neglected and that we should all be opening eyes and realizing this because it truly is super lame.
    HipNotiiC_x
    Thanks man. I do like breaking this game down because I care, I want it to be better for all. Posts like this make me continue doing things like this haha. I certainly am not trying to be a grumpy guy, these critical posts are to highlight how much us offliners have been neglected and that we should all be opening eyes and realizing this because it truly is super lame.

    Unfortunately it's the same in Madden. It's more of casual simulation then a true simulation of the sport. I've just accepted it but I appreciate those like you who are passionate and put it out there on what needs improvement.
    I love playing dynasty and thus far, I cannot play it with a created team. I don’t really have any other complaints than this… this is just what I enjoy. So far, it’s a waste of $60.
    MizzouRah
    Unfortunately it's the same in Madden. It's more of casual simulation then a true simulation of the sport. I've just accepted it but I appreciate those like you who are passionate and put it out there on what needs improvement.

    Yeah exactly, I really do like madden because I just don't know enough. I know guys like you put a lot effort in over there and I personally use your sliders for Madden so great work! I appreciate the kind words as well!
    millwalldavey
    I love playing dynasty and thus far, I cannot play it with a created team. I don’t really have any other complaints than this… this is just what I enjoy. So far, it’s a waste of $60.

    Just curious. Why can't you play dynasty with a created team?
    By dynasty do you mean franchise? I'm playing franchise with a created team.
    CujoMatty
    Just curious. Why can't you play dynasty with a created team?
    By dynasty do you mean franchise? I'm playing franchise with a created team.

    I think old-gen created teams are experiencing a glitch where numbers aren't appearing on the jerseys, so it might not be that he literally can't play, but without those numbers it makes it a pretty big immersion-breaker.
    That's my guess.
    HipNotiiC_x
    I think old-gen created teams are experiencing a glitch where numbers aren't appearing on the jerseys, so it might not be that he literally can't play, but without those numbers it makes it a pretty big immersion-breaker.
    That's my guess.

    Good guess! I’m not in it for any other modes.
    Will I Am
    I guess I just take it for what it's worth, a video game. As far as my teammates being out of position most of that is on me, as I said I switch control to the closest all the time so I get running around to a certain degree.
    Also there isn't one single sports game out there that plays like the real deal either, at least not that I'm aware of. Maybe it's just not as easy as you think it is to have a video sport be 100% accurate.

    MLB The Show is pretty damn close. Yes it needs room for improvements but The Show is the best representation of any sports game period.
    Scottt8471
    MLB The Show is pretty damn close. Yes it needs room for improvements but The Show is the best representation of any sports game period.
    I agree The Show is awesome.
    The Show is for sure the closest but in all fairness baseball is also the easiest.
    I'm not saying its not hard though. 2K showed how hard it was to make baseball games lol.
    But out of all the major sports games baseball is the easiest. Way less moving parts. You have a stationary pitcher and a stationary batter.
    CujoMatty
    The Show is for sure the closest but in all fairness baseball is also the easiest.
    I'm not saying its not hard though. 2K showed how hard it was to make baseball games lol.
    But out of all the major sports games baseball is the easiest. Way less moving parts. You have a stationary pitcher and a stationary batter.

    Personally, it's not really easier to make a baseball game, than a hockey game or a futbol game or even a racing sim (like F1). But where the difficulty lies is in getting the player immersed in it.
    That's why games like The Show, NBA 2K and even NHL 2K are so loved. Sure you can bring innovation, and you can have purtty graphics, but at the end of the day if all you're doing is going through the motions, very soon you're going to get tired of it.
    Pacman is a very easy game to understand. At the time it had amazing graphics too. But the gameplay, basically, has you doing the same thing over and over again. The difficulty may ramp up, but eventually even that stops being a challenge when you figure out the pattern. And that's when you realize very quickly, that you want more.
    The Show does that. NBA 2K does that (not the last 2 versions though). It felt like you're really there. Or that you're watching a game on TV, if you have the right camera angles and settings.
    It's not enough to have great graphics and easy to understand controls. Am I doing the same thing ad nauseum? Then it's like playing Pacman all over again. Gimme something different. I wanna hear the announcers notice the play. I wanna hear some playful banter. I wanna see the opponent players adjust to my strategies. I wanna have to run different plays against certain teams. I wanna see my teammates adjust and help me. That's the immersion we're missing with EA's games. It's always, do you wanna score? Then do this or do that, and you'll score 95% of the time if done right. Deviate from it a little... Well you're not having any fun.
    Give us all that, and let the players decide. I'd love to play more than one type of game. It doesn't have to be, one is better than the other, so I'll only play one. Give us variety. Give us choice.
    Give us a good product that immerses us.
    PVarck31
    I just hate to buy it and be done in a week. Since a couple places have buy 2 games get 1 free going on right now, I was thinking of taking advantage of it.
    Thanks!

    That's a really difficult question for anyone to answer but yourself by playing it.
    I mean you're asking basically... will someone who hasn't played NHL games since 2008 be annoyed by the state of the game without the trajectory behind them of having played other EA and 2K games since then and having that experience to compare them to?... I have absolutely no idea. One view could be: you have nothing to compare to so you wouldn't know what was wrong and you'd love it. But, there's no way to answer your question without knowing what you find "fun" and "non frustrating". It sounds to me like you just want someone to say buy it or don't even without knowing what you'd like. And I'm not coming after you or anything, sorry if it sounds like that, but this forum is full of people asking this question and it's sort of pointless. Thing is someone can say, "no don't buy it". Someone else can say "yes, totally, buy it". Ok, so where does that leave you?
    Do what I tell everyone to do. Search "NHL 22 gameplay no commentary" and watch 5-10 minutes with a team you like if you can find it. If you feel like playing it, you should buy it.

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