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NHL 20 Trial Available For EA Access Subscribers, Post Your Impressions Here

The NHL 20 trial is available for EA Access subscribers (Xbox One, PlayStation 4 – $4.99 per month, or $29.99 for a full year).

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  1. Played one period and noticed the improved puck pickup. Scored a goal with what seemed an improved one-timer animation.
    Other than that , the sample is too small to draw any conclusion. I will test it more tonight.
    SocialAssassin
    HUT crashing on everyone is the energy I need today. That mode should be annihilated from existence

    Are you surprised? I'm not. I cancelled EA Access seven months ago because I refuse to line their(EA) pockets with my money. Don't need to try a trial to know where this game is headed.
    Played one game, the Blues (me) vs Bruins game while it installed. Played on default Pro, 10 minute periods.
    Game felt pretty good, definitely not revolutionary or anything like that but felt pretty smooth. I haven't played '19 in a while so I'm definitely rusty.
    First period was pretty even, I was up 1-0 with a 10-8 shots advantage. i felt like the Bruins were able to put some pressure on me, but again I was pretty rusty.
    3-1 Blues after two as I went up 3-0 but the Bruins got a PP goal to get within 2. They had a few great chances but weren't able to finish then they got one.
    Third was wild, I got two to make it 5-1, then the B's got one back but I potted a 6th. Bruins scored twice in the last two minutes to make the final 6-4. Final shots were 42-39 Blues. Blues went 1/2 on the PP while the Bruins went 1/3.
    Perron got 4 for the Blues, all nice setups. I was able to get him a few passes across the slot. Schenn scored a nice PP goal when he broke behind the D while the puck was on the high wall and I was able to hit him with a pass and he went top shelf,
    Coyle had 3 for the Bruins, so two hatties in the game, something to see if that is common or just a fluke,
    I was able to get some setups on offence and the Bruins felt dangerous without feeling like the CPU went into Beserker mode. CPU teammates didn't seem like complete idiots, they weren't crashing into me when I was trying to breakout and they were getting into position in the offensive zone.
    Bottom line - I'm looking forward to playing it again.
    Played the game Blues vs Bruins. I saw things that I liked but it’s still too much of a North South game with zero board play and zero neutral zone play. It’s way too easy to skate right by someone even after making contact. Zero player separation and legacy issues still rear their ugly head. They just really don’t understand or cannot capture the sport accurately. Not sure I could play a whole season of this.
    Started Franchise. Played first regular season game.
    Won 5-2. Scored 4 in 3rd period to come from behind to win.
    Good...skating feels nice and the great 8 has a special shot that felt great! Goalies were solid, even tho i scored 5 all goals were legit no soft goals. Presentation wise I actually like the score overlay at the bottom and love how the game stats (blocked shots, powerplays etc) pop up. Think people will get used to it.
    Bad...took way too many penalties. Think I have 8, 2 were 100% on me but I think I need to alter sliders here. Saw way more cpu blocked shots, I found it really hard to get shots on the net until 3rd period things opened up. Thinking about it this might actually be good not bad. Presentation wise and commentary wise I cant make my mind up I think it feels a little arcadey. I do like the graphics that come up but I want to see more around the league score updates show up etc.
    Only 1 game so far but overall I enjoyed it.
    jake19ny
    Played the game Blues vs Bruins. I saw things that I liked but it’s still too much of a North South game with zero board play and zero neutral zone play. It’s way too easy to skate right by someone even after making contact. Zero player separation and legacy issues still rear their ugly head. They just really don’t understand or cannot capture the sport accurately. Not sure I could play a whole season of this.

    Agree with a lot of this but I was able to force some turnovers in the neutral zone and slow them down. I forced some dump ins and such. I'll pay more attention next game to how the CPU plays me in center ice.
    I felt on Pro last year the CPU didn't attack at all and you could get skate right in but on All-Star they were there to crush you at the blue line. My game on default Pro today felt more balanced, I wasn't able to just skate through them most of the time.
    I did need to move the puck around to get shots through and I missed the net a decent amount of times. I like to use the boards, I'll wrap the puck around in both zones so I basically create some board play by putting the puck on the wall.
    Played just the one game, Bruins/Blues. CPU shoots more on PRO, hallelujah! Won 4-2 as Boston. Scored on an awesome looking 2-on-1 with Marchand using a new animation to bury the puck. Scored on a slapshot from near the point with Coyle that hit the Blues defender in the pants as he was going down to block the shot and it fooled Binnington. Scored on light wrister through traffic with Kuraly and don't remember the fourth goal.
    Bergeron and Chara did some things more in line with their skill, Bergeron with stick checking and noticeable deflections of a couple of point shots and Chara really reached at one point to break up a pass. The player ratings and team ratings are lower overall. A little choppier gameplay (good) and smarter CPU AI on some pass attempts. They occasionally "stepped up" to intercept and keep the puck in.
    Commentary is slightly annoying but I'm older. It's not terrible. Ray is quite good. Other than a couple of times the CPU carried the puck in a straight line away from pressure, once back to their goalie and once into the boards, it was the best first experience with EA NHL I've ever had. (Well, except for one-timers in NHL 94' the first time I got one to go in.)
    Now, please EA, please for the love of God, leave it alone.
    Anyone see any signature shots and goals from any of the players? This is one of the so called "new features" EA says has been added to the game.
    jake19ny
    Played the game Blues vs Bruins. I saw things that I liked but it’s still too much of a North South game with zero board play and zero neutral zone play. It’s way too easy to skate right by someone even after making contact. Zero player separation and legacy issues still rear their ugly head. They just really don’t understand or cannot capture the sport accurately. Not sure I could play a whole season of this.

    Did we expect anything different from this group? We need EA to find a new development team to take over who understands how to capture the sport of hockey accurately like you said. This is becoming a joke year after year. It's time for a change EA!
    Peter_OS
    Did we expect anything different from this group? We need EA to find a new development team to take over who understands how to capture the sport of hockey accurately like you said. This is becoming a joke year after year. It's time for a change EA!

    I get why many feel this way, but when you listen to the interview that was posted earlier it is very clear that this development team is not at all in control of the game we get. They have no say on what is in or out or even how much time or money they get to spend doing what they want. I think this development team does good things when they can.
    Gameplay definitely seems smoother. Goals seem harder to come by. Shots look more realistic. Overall I like how it plays. As others have said though, still no board play and neutral zone play but a lot of other areas seem refined. Hopefully can check out some franchise tomorrow once the game fully downloads.
    Same game as last year. Nothing new. And what few changes are there you can't even use. Franchise Hire a coach.....should be wait 4 years and then get a coach. Cause they auto assign them and dont' let you hire your coaching staff to star. Even with a expansion team you are auto assigned your coaching staff?????? Also if you want to build a specific type of team like run an gun, or Trap style team.....well you can't. Want a goalie coach for a butterfly goalie....they don't exist. I mean really.
    Also no updates to create a team. I mean Quebec Nordiques are in as a legends team but you can't create the Nordiques in create a mode still???? The Nordiques are still not a option.
    No new logos, no new jersey nothing. Same old game......oh for all the Jerks there is new after the game celebrations but again you can only have one.
    And gameplay is pretty much the same i didn't notice any difference from 19 which i played in the morning while 20 was downloading.
    Just like Madden EA keeps putting new lipstick on the pig.....
    I know you all play offline mostly, but its a god damn nightmare online as usual. Same exact exploits continue to work, only the spinning in L2ing is even worse. Every team I played in EASHL was a 5'7 160 pound dangler that couldnt be hit.
    I'm only a casual NHL'er but the default game speed seems way too fast. I can't get any feel for my players or set up plays because the gameplay is so crazy quick and I know the NHL is quick but not every second of a quarter is at that speed and yet everything in NHL 20 seems to be overblown. I only played a bit of 19 and previous iterations but it seems consistent with the last few released.
    You know, I played the trial, got one game in this morning, and I've got to say it's not as bad as I thought it'd be. However, it's got some real issues that are going to prevent me from buying until it's on sale.
    Commentary... is awful. It sounds like a kid doing commentary for a university/college radio network or something. Way too much excitement and yelling from Cybulski. Even for insignificant events such as a neutral zone faceoff 5 minutes into the first period.
    Presentation overlays... awful. How you go from the nice clean NBC style presentation package to the pure arcade looking visuals, especially during goals... yikes. It looks ok, but it doesn't look anything like what you'd expect a broadcast to be. It's straight up arcade game style IMO. Not a fan.
    Players, I couldnt' tell you a difference between skating or shooting with Dylan Larkin compared to say, Mike Green. That's obviously not a good thing, but a well known issue for this series.
    On that topic still, while scrolling through the team selection screen, whey you look at their OVR ratings for Off, Def & Goaltending it looks like the league is full of all start teams aside from a few teams like Ottawa.
    On to some positives... Skating seemed better. Shooting and passing felt and looked better. Goalies looked and felt like they moved better too. Those were some positives to me, but overall not worth a day 1 buy IMO. I'm still spending too much time with F12019 & Madden to worry about this title. That's sad to me, because I've always enjoyed this game, but the last few years have been a complete letdown, so I'll likely wait for a sale.
    speels
    I get why many feel this way, but when you listen to the interview that was posted earlier it is very clear that this development team is not at all in control of the game we get. They have no say on what is in or out or even how much time or money they get to spend doing what they want. I think this development team does good things when they can.

    It doesn't stop them from making a great divide between ratings, which IMO is the main crux of this series.
    If there is a discernible difference between say, an 87 and an 82, then most of the issues plaguing this series disappear.
    Adding Legends is laughable when every one of them will play the exact same.
    There is almost no difference between a 92 and an 82. But where the main issue lies is when you're playing against the CPU where every single one of its players is a 95.
    I'm skating in mud with McDavid, but the CPU is dancing around the ice, threading needles and firing lasers with the likes of Leo Komarov.
    I have a question for those who've tried out the Be a Gm mode. Do the different coaching strategies carry over into the on ice games or does it all go to default once the puck drops making the entire feature pointless. I was hoping when I first read about it that it would actually feel like you were playing different teams based on the coaching strategies rather than the same team every game wearing different jerseys.
    To add in on Money's comment....all the goalies feel exactly the same, why pay money for a quality goalie when I can sign fringe player from the AHL and he will play exactly the same?
    I've now played around 3-4 games in franchise mode and I can actually say I don't mind the game (flame on). Some thoughts:
    - Cybulski actually sounds better when playing rather than watching. I still think they need to tune him so he isn't always excited but if they actually stick with Cybulski and Ferraro for more than 1 year, they might have something good here.
    - They really need to add transition lines. 1) when someone scores, please say their name and how many goals they've scored. Doc did it last year, so the coding is there. 2) The replays are longer than the commentary. It's weird when Ray provides his comments and then you get a 2nd angle of a replay with silence.
    - New broadcast package is okay. Hopefully it was a cost decision because it definitely isn't better than the NBCSN package but it isn't worse. As with the NBC package, they need to find a way to use in game assets (i.e. they way Madden and FIFA show players as their in-game models).
    - New score bug. So far, I'm not huge fan of it being at the bottom screen. The reason for this is that I'm always shooting up and it's hard to see the score and power play timer. If I was shooting down, this probably wouldn't be an issue. I appreciate them trying something new here but I hope they go back to the score bug being at the top of the screen.
    - menus are still slow for the modern era and I'm not sure why other games don't have this issue.
    - gameplay feels much more natural. It's subtle but it just feels smoother and so far the shooting animations make for a much better looking game -- fewer weird/glitchy shots.
    Ultimately, I feel for the NHL developers. Their game probably sells one fifth of Madden and a tenth or less of Fifa -- meaning an accordingly smaller budget. Somehow, the complaints are the same for all the EA games despite having budgets of varying sizes: "same as '19, doesn't play sim, it's all about Ultimate Team, etc...). They are trying to appeal to casual and sim gamers, while trying to continue justifying to EA to put out an NHL product every year -- they can't win.
    I'm not trying to be defeatist but realistic. Major League Baseball doesn't even have a real multi platform game anymore (RBI Baseball is no where close to MLB 2K or The Show). I'm glad we at least have a functional hockey game that I can enjoy on ps4 or xbox. All that said, people should still voice their criticism every year because the game needs it to continue to grow. We just all need to be prepared for the growth to take a lot longer than we might like.
    I'm pleased they did things to make this game look a little bit different (broadcast package is same but different) and they actually added something cool to Franchise mode (coaching staffs). The NHL series still has a long way to go but let's not forget that they are working with comparatively little resources.
    cocacolaman
    Same game as last year. Nothing new. And what few changes are there you can't even use. Franchise Hire a coach.....should be wait 4 years and then get a coach.
    Just like Madden EA keeps putting new lipstick on the pig.....

    I agree that it would be nice if you could hire your coaching staff for an expansion team but I'm pretty sure you can work around your issue by just firing the staff members. I don't think you have to wait 4 years as you're stating. I've also simmed and seen alerts from other teams firing their head coach, so it would be weird if the user couldn't do it.
    cocacolaman
    Same game as last year. Nothing new. And what few changes are there you can't even use. Franchise Hire a coach.....should be wait 4 years and then get a coach. Cause they auto assign them and dont' let you hire your coaching staff to star. Even with a expansion team you are auto assigned your coaching staff?????? Also if you want to build a specific type of team like run an gun, or Trap style team.....well you can't. Want a goalie coach for a butterfly goalie....they don't exist. I mean really.
    Also no updates to create a team. I mean Quebec Nordiques are in as a legends team but you can't create the Nordiques in create a mode still???? The Nordiques are still not a option.
    No new logos, no new jersey nothing. Same old game......oh for all the Jerks there is new after the game celebrations but again you can only have one.
    And gameplay is pretty much the same i didn't notice any difference from 19 which i played in the morning while 20 was downloading.
    Just like Madden EA keeps putting new lipstick on the pig.....

    Seems to be the case with most sports games, for the franchise aspect of it.
    They chunk out these games yearly because its part of their contract. I honestly dont expect anything new until a new gen console hits.
    jaiman
    Quick question. Does the game run in HDR?

    No, it runs in 4k but no HDR. My guess is it really wouldn't matter since you're mostly seeing white ice all the time.
    I don't have the trial.. but in all the videos I've watched so far, the announcers say the players names but I haven't heard one goalie's name announced and it's quite odd.
    Anyone hear a goalie called by his name yet during play?
    MizzouRah
    I don't have the trial.. but in all the videos I've watched so far, the announcers say the players names but I haven't heard one goalie's name announced and it's quite odd.
    Anyone hear a goalie called by his name yet during play?
    I just played a alumni game sabres nordiques and they called out bouchards name for Quebec
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    boxers
    Ultimately, I feel for the NHL developers. Their game probably sells one fifth of Madden and a tenth or less of Fifa -- meaning an accordingly smaller budget. Somehow, the complaints are the same for all the EA games despite having budgets of varying sizes: "same as '19, doesn't play sim, it's all about Ultimate Team, etc...). They are trying to appeal to casual and sim gamers, while trying to continue justifying to EA to put out an NHL product every year -- they can't win.
    I'm not trying to be defeatist but realistic. Major League Baseball doesn't even have a real multi platform game anymore (RBI Baseball is no where close to MLB 2K or The Show). I'm glad we at least have a functional hockey game that I can enjoy on ps4 or xbox.

    There are other "functional" hockey alternatives and that is to use old games with community patches instead, like 2KHS or NHL04 or NHL2K10. However, the sad part is that ofcourse there is a small risk not buying the game will make EA drop the series instead of improving it.
    Also what Ive seen from videos, the gameplay seems way too quick and fast for my taste, don't know how much if any that can be corrected with sliders?
    For me personally I also like to be able to be creative with my games, sharing rosters and mods with the community but EA have done very much to limit this.
    However I know for a fact that the current non pc sports games like NHL have not impressed me enough to even buy a current gen console.
    FM is on PC, PES is on PC, WWE is on PC (even though I rarely play anymore) and 2KHS is more than a good enough alternative to keep my hockey on the PC. NHL94 runs well on the PC too if I want more arcade style (at the time it was as much sim you would get though, lol).
    I will stay on 2K for another year and probably will until EA goes on PC and let the community improve and finish what they don't have the resources to do.
    Thanks for the impressions - you guys just saved me the money again this year.
    The older I get the less I enjoy video games. Funny, with all the advancements in technology - the greatest games were made on the older systems. I'll pass on this game - no need to play as the guys here I respect have stated what I sensed they would...
    People keep saying it’s too fast, but I booted up Play Now game with their full sim settings, and it felt sluggish and sloppy. It seemed to be what folks want. But I bailed out of the game after a period, because the 10 minute periods setting was way too long, and started up a game one notch above full arcade, and it felt better to me, but I would need to increase difficulty. But I can’t imagine how slow folks want it if full sim is too fast.
    After those games, I went to Chel and started my player. I played the first Pro-Am Threes challenge, and it felt great, just like last year. Chel and EASHL will get 90% of my time in the game. The mode Spears to be totally free of micro transactions, and for better or worse, it’s the most fun mode in the game. Regular Threes is pretty great, too.
    I will play a bit of HUT this year, as Squad Battles looks like a good ripoff of Solo Battles in Madden. But the dev teams for both this and NBA Live have made Chel and The One more fun, and neither has micro transactions. Madden is the only game that seems to really need and lean on UT.
    i like the game there seems to be more created turnovers for break away chances also i found more turn overs in the middle of the ice as well as some board play the rap arounds work better and the anouncer tells you the player is attempting a wrap around. 10 minutes is way to long but the over all feel of the game is better than last years . there are tons of new goalie saves animations
    and the overlays are bad azz the one thing i would like to see is when the goalie goes to make a glove save weather that is standing up they do not drop them but i only played 1 game so maybe they do and i have not played against the right goalie yet but too many saves where they do not drop them or go thru them like in nhl 18 i loved that aspect also i did not see any redirections of my shots or computer players batting pucks away , but it is early i would say it is worth buying.
    Short Franchise mode Info from my point of view.
    I made a one year full simulation with 32nd Expansion Team including expansion draft.
    - At expansion draft got players like Hornqvist, Markström, Burns, Henrique, Bouwmeester, Hamhuis, McDonagh, Lehner and some other real good Hockey players ( in reality this never would happen )
    - During the Season NYI made me an offer for Barzal and a Pick for McDonagh ( never would happen in reality ) also other Teams gave me very good offers for a Trade. All Trades to easy with Trade slider on high.
    + Statistics now named by Team name
    + Coach Statistics. Thats a good point.
    - No Player history about past Trades. Would be necessary to see a History for whom or what Players are traded, Cup Rings, Awards ... A Trade, Award History is more important than this useless Moral History.
    - No Team History for Seasons in Franchise mode. Why is it not possible to see Standings and complete Team Statistics for past Seasons ?
    - From my first feel the Chats with Coaches and Draft Prospects doesn’t influence the Game positive or negative. Same as the Line chemistry. ( I mean now from sim Games )
    - Equipment, Jerseys, Face scans, Goalie masks, missing player pics of real player
    - In Free Agent Pool after one year sim was very much Elite Players, Top6 Forwards, Top 4 Defenceman. It seems much worser than in 19. I thought the Guys worked about that problem ? No way it would like this in reality.
    About Gameplay have only experience of some minutes, but from first sight seems not better than in 19
    nikethebike
    There are other "functional" hockey alternatives and that is to use old games with community patches instead, like 2KHS or NHL04 or NHL2K10. However, the sad part is that ofcourse there is a small risk not buying the game will make EA drop the series instead of improving it.
    Also what Ive seen from videos, the gameplay seems way too quick and fast for my taste, don't know how much if any that can be corrected with sliders?
    For me personally I also like to be able to be creative with my games, sharing rosters and mods with the community but EA have done very much to limit this.
    However I know for a fact that the current non pc sports games like NHL have not impressed me enough to even buy a current gen console.
    FM is on PC, PES is on PC, WWE is on PC (even though I rarely play anymore) and 2KHS is more than a good enough alternative to keep my hockey on the PC. NHL94 runs well on the PC too if I want more arcade style (at the time it was as much sim you would get though, lol).
    I will stay on 2K for another year and probably will until EA goes on PC and let the community improve and finish what they don't have the resources to do.

    I made the same observation about game speed and after turning it down to 2 (the default is 3/6) it was a much better experience. I imagine you could even turn it down to 1 and still have an enjoyable game.
    Played about 4 hours of trial now. Think I wont be buying for first time in over 10 years. 
    The main commentator is awful. I mean what were they thinking? 
    Again, in game league leader stat banners majorly lacking, why cant they follow 2k and incorporate this as it adds massively to the immersion of franchise. 
    Seen too many goalie mess ups in 5 games. Disappointed. 
    Penalties again broken, messing with sliders but cpu not taking penalties. How can this still be a problem? 
    EA need competition, its obvious they have become lazy and complacent. 
    reth316
    Played about 4 hours of trial now. Think I wont be buying for first time in over 10 years.*
    The main commentator is awful. I mean what were they thinking?*
    Again, in game league leader stat banners majorly lacking, why cant they follow 2k and incorporate this as it adds massively to the immersion of franchise.*
    Seen too many goalie mess ups in 5 games. Disappointed.*
    Penalties again broken, messing with sliders but cpu not taking penalties. How can this still be a problem?*
    EA need competition, its obvious they have become lazy and complacent.*

    My advice, as I will do it. Buy it cheap later this year as used from private. Very early many customers will give it for sale.
    I played one period of be a pro and quit. As an offline player this is a hard pass for me. They have done nothing with the AI for years now and there's really no point. It is obvious that all the time goes into their online and ultimate team stuff. For people who play that, great, but the offline game just isn't there.
    Again, when you put the game on sim settings, your player gets impacted. You feel like you're skating in mashed potatoes. The CPU isn't impacted at all though, they can just turn and spin. It is just an artificial difficulty. The teammate AI is just not there as well. Teammates just skate into 3 defenders and turn the puck over. They hold the puck while you are open and wait just long enough for a defender to shut down the lane.
    Honestly I'll probably buy it if I see it for $20. Usually there's a big sale come Black Friday. As someone who's bought the game pretty much every year since the 90s, it is sad to see the game go all online at this point, but there probably aren't enough of us left who actually want an offline hockey sim anyway.
    kerosene31
    I played one period of be a pro and quit. As an offline player this is a hard pass for me. They have done nothing with the AI for years now and there's really no point. It is obvious that all the time goes into their online and ultimate team stuff. For people who play that, great, but the offline game just isn't there.
    Again, when you put the game on sim settings, your player gets impacted. You feel like you're skating in mashed potatoes. The CPU isn't impacted at all though, they can just turn and spin. It is just an artificial difficulty. The teammate AI is just not there as well. Teammates just skate into 3 defenders and turn the puck over. They hold the puck while you are open and wait just long enough for a defender to shut down the lane.
    Honestly I'll probably buy it if I see it for $20. Usually there's a big sale come Black Friday. As someone who's bought the game pretty much every year since the 90s, it is sad to see the game go all online at this point, but there probably aren't enough of us left who actually want an offline hockey sim anyway.

    $20 is still over paying.
    I think something from $15-$20 would be a fair price for the amount of improvements they do.
    But I would actually gladly paid a full price, if they make it worthy. Unfortunately that's not the case at all.
    I 've pretty much dodged EA hockey for years other than the excellent NHL 04. Instead my hockey gaming went to the likes of mainly NHL Powerplay 96/98, NHL Championship 2000 and 2K3, 5, 8, 10 and 11 with the occasional Faceoff/Gretzky tossed in there.
    With that being said, I recently picked up 16 and with some slider tweaking was really having a good time and getting pretty good sim style results. Though the presentation was nothing as good as the superb NHLC2K, 2k8 or the awesome presentation in the Faceoff/Gretzky series, it still seemed nice with Doc who just sounds like hockey.
    So I'm getting a bit back into the NHL as a sport in general after taking some time off and was going to get 20 since I enjoyed 16 to a degree(tweaked a lot). But I'm not sure now. Maybe I should just get 19. A good presentation is important to me. Unfortunately, EA is pretty poor at providing good pop up stats and a nice tv style broadcast. Even with the NBC license they would put up up stats like 2 seconds before the faceoff so you couldn't even have time to digest and enjoy them. And yeah, I'm wanting something that feels somewhat realistic. I do enjoy the true broadcast camera a lot and slowed down with defensive options cranked I get an ok experience.
    I kinda just dread going back to games that are seriously 10-20 years old. And I don't have a pc nearly good enough to run DJ NEO's 2k project.
    Sigh. Where's Radical when you need them?
    With all that being said, though, I plan on getting 19 or 20. I'm sure I'd like the commentary better on 19 (even if repetitive) but 20 looks to have a few tweaks, gameplay wise. Plus the Kings Alumni team might actually get me to buy the game. Sad, but true.
    I do think that if tweaked properly I can get a decently realistic game of hockey from it. I've always been good at doing that. I also think that a lot of it falls on how you play, yourself. Just not sure which one to get.
    DJ, haven't you got the attention of 2K yet? ;) Would be nice, right?
    hrudey32
    With all that being said, though, I plan on getting 19 or 20. I'm sure I'd like the commentary better on 19 (even if repetitive) but 20 looks to have a few tweaks, gameplay wise. Plus the Kings Alumni team might actually get me to buy the game. Sad, but true.
    I do think that if tweaked properly I can get a decently realistic game of hockey from it. I've always been good at doing that. I also think that a lot of it falls on how you play, yourself. Just not sure which one to get.
    DJ, haven't you got the attention of 2K yet? ;) Would be nice, right?

    I would say the best option is to get the EA Access for a month ($5) and test NHL20 for 10 hours and play NHL19 from the vault for a month. Than you decide if you buy the 19 for $10 or less used or if you are mad enough to pay $60 for NHL20! :y220a:
    I am gonna stick with NHL19 since i signed EA Access for an year and got the game from there. Tested the 20 demo but the new presentation and commentary are horrendous. Also hated the speed of the game and the excess of backward lighspeed-between-the-legs-passes from the AI, is totally ridiculous. Also i played about 10 games and 99% of the AI goals were one-timers, +90% pass accurancy, no neutral zone gameplay, scores like 7x2 and 9x2 on all-star...
    I could go on but already had enough and uninstalled it, gonna play it when it hits the vauld next year with some sliders, but for now will keep playing 19 that seems less worse than 20.
    hrudey32
    With all that being said, though, I plan on getting 19 or 20 . I'm sure I'd like the commentary better on 19 (even if repetitive) but 20 looks to have a few tweaks, gameplay wise. Plus the Kings Alumni team might actually get me to buy the game. Sad, but true.
    I do think that if tweaked properly I can get a decently realistic game of hockey from it. I've always been good at doing that. I also think that a lot of it falls on how you play, yourself. Just not sure which one to get.
    DJ, haven't you got the attention of 2K yet? ;) Would be nice, right?

    Take it from me; If you've played NHL 16, then you pretty much played NHL 20 (except for the meta goals which keep changing from year to year). So don't bother paying for this game. If you must, wait until it's on special or (if you're desperate) try to lurk in any big NHL streamer's chat from now to official launch date and maybe you can snag a "gift" code.
    For myself, unless I luck out and somehow manage to land one of those aforementioned free codes, I'm gonna wait until the game is out in the EA Access vault next year to play.
    This game isn't worth over $90 CAD... And that's just the standard version.
    cocacolaman
    Same game as last year. Nothing new. And what few changes are there you can't even use. Franchise Hire a coach.....should be wait 4 years and then get a coach. Cause they auto assign them and dont' let you hire your coaching staff to star. Even with a expansion team you are auto assigned your coaching staff?????? Also if you want to build a specific type of team like run an gun, or Trap style team.....well you can't. Want a goalie coach for a butterfly goalie....they don't exist. I mean really.
    Also no updates to create a team. I mean Quebec Nordiques are in as a legends team but you can't create the Nordiques in create a mode still???? The Nordiques are still not a option.
    No new logos, no new jersey nothing. Same old game......oh for all the Jerks there is new after the game celebrations but again you can only have one.
    And gameplay is pretty much the same i didn't notice any difference from 19 which i played in the morning while 20 was downloading.
    Just like Madden EA keeps putting new lipstick on the pig.....

    There’s actually quite a few new generic logos, maybe you weren’t looking hard enough. Also, if you want to pick your own coach fire the one you have and hire new ones. There is no penalty for this
    I know, I didn't play EA Access, but I plan on getting it on 13th, one slider, that I am glad is back, which viewed al tito's and fiddy sliders, one setting am so happy for is : Goalie Persistence , when they showed sliders, I am happy now.
    now I can relax and chill out.
    if goalie persistence works just like NHL 19 and now into NHL 20, I couldn't be much happyier, over joyed actually.
    I have to say, I'm enjoying the game overall after knocking speed down to 2 (from 3) and bumping all goalie sliders up to 80 (from 50 "out of the box"). One minor thing that drove me crazy last year that's still there in 20 is the abundance of goalie sticks taped with black tape. I know I'm getting old, and I'm already having to get used to guys wearing crazy non-traditional numbers, but the vast majority of goalies still use white tape. Like I said, that's very minor, but it takes its toll on the realism and immersion aspect for me.
    I know first thing am gonna test, cross crease save reaction: 99 & goalie save reaction: 98 & goalie deflection save reaction: 98 & goalie screen effect: 85 and Goalie Persistence : 5 or 6 and alternate for superstar : goalie save reaction: 99 , in 20 minutes.
    if anyone has NHL 20 might wanna plop that in, if u are curious.
    and also steal my shooting section from my franchise all-star 20 minutes.
    just for kicks and fun.
    VeNOM3099
    Take it from me; If you've played NHL 16, then you pretty much played NHL 20 (except for the meta goals which keep changing from year to year). So don't bother paying for this game. If you must, wait until it's on special or (if you're desperate) try to lurk in any big NHL streamer's chat from now to official launch date and maybe you can snag a "gift" code.
    For myself, unless I luck out and somehow manage to land one of those aforementioned free codes, I'm gonna wait until the game is out in the EA Access vault next year to play.
    This game isn't worth over $90 CAD... And that's just the standard version.

    So Venom, you are one of the old schoolers. I loved your 2K8 difference video way back. So what game do you play for your hockey fix then?
    I guess I've played so little of EA hockey that everything is kinda fresh to me. Not saying it's great but I'm 16 I found some sliders that make for a pretty good game. Lots of scrums and loose pucks. And the true broadcast camera is really good to me. Still, there are issues everywhere, no doubt. But they are in the other hockey games I play as well.
    I’ve honestly had enough time with the game during the trial that I can say it’s going to be hard pass for me this year. This will be the first year since ‘10 that I have skipped. Love the new shot animations and franchise features but the user defense plays so bad. It’s the most un-fun and non rewarding experience I have had in a sports game in a long time. Some of the biggest culprits are.
    - The CPU stock work is amazing! They can snatch the puck away from behind you, break up virtually every pass attempt, and stick lift you into oblivion. Unfortunately on the user side the poke check results in either 3 outcomes far to often. Either A) your stick goes right through the puck b) it’s a tripping penalty or c) you separate the puck from the CPU stick only for them to instantly recover
    - the stick lift is the only stick mechanic that actually is effective and even that works only 30% of the time. So on defense I am reduced to either switching off and letting the CPU handle (once again unrewarding and not fun), or just trying to stay in front on the CPU and pray for an accidental shot block
    - hitting is ridiculously bad this year. I literally spent an entire game trying to get charging penalties on the CPU just to see if I could level them. More often than not they simply just bounce off of me not even stumbling. Yet the CPU can check you from behind at full speed with an inch of space and you go flying like you got blindsided by Kronwall.
    - it is way too easy to blow past defenders this year. For the user as well as the CPU. I don’t know if it’s because back skating is to slow but it happens way to often. In one game alone with 6 minute periods there was 10 breakaways and 13 two on ones.
    Honestly in years past I could over look the games shortcomings and enjoy but this year the defense is as bad as I can ever remember it and makes 50% of the gameplay a chore. I play video games to relax and I just feel like this game would frustrate me more than I would enjoy it.
    hrudey32
    So Venom, you are one of the old schoolers. I loved your 2K8 difference video way back. So what game do you play for your hockey fix then?
    I guess I've played so little of EA hockey that everything is kinda fresh to me. Not saying it's great but I'm 16 I found some sliders that make for a pretty good game. Lots of scrums and loose pucks. And the true broadcast camera is really good to me. Still, there are issues everywhere, no doubt. But they are in the other hockey games I play as well.

    Do you even have to ask?
    https://www.twitch.tv/venom3099/clip/BraveExquisiteWitchTwitchRaid?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
    hrudey32
    I kinda just dread going back to games that are seriously 10-20 years old. And I don't have a pc nearly good enough to run DJ NEO's 2k project.

    I might have an idea for a workaround coming. What are your PC specs?
    I only play offline. My thoughts after playing a couple of hours.
    +The shot animations and puck pickups are improved.
    +Trade finder, coaches and some more franchise improvements.
    +New commentary has potential. Even though they should tone down the excitement on some plays, the commentary in general has better situational awareness and describes the play better. They should say player names more often though, especially after a goal.
    -Be a pro mode untouched.
    -Numerous legacy issues.
    -Menus may be slightly faster but they are still bad.
    -AI has to be improved.
    -Same old goalie poor animations.
    -Poor player separation.
    -Same gameplay mechanics and controls for how many years now ?
    Overall, I think it's better than NHL 19 but it's not worth full price.
    It's a step in the right direction, just not a big enough one.
    I like the fact that they worked on shot animations, commentary and franchise mode but the core gameplay is getting old.
    SuperGoalies
    I know, I didn't play EA Access, but I plan on getting it on 13th, one slider, that I am glad is back, which viewed al tito's and fiddy sliders, one setting am so happy for is : Goalie Persistence , when they showed sliders, I am happy now.
    now I can relax and chill out.
    if goalie persistence works just like NHL 19 and now into NHL 20, I couldn't be much happyier, over joyed actually.

    Goalie persistence? I don't remember that being a slider in NHL 19, what does it do?
    Jatt96
    Goalie persistence? I don't remember that being a slider in NHL 19, what does it do?

    it has something to do with goalies reacting to screen , if its low to 5-8, less chance the goalie will not fall for screen shot or deflection screen shot, but if its higher like 10-100, more likely goalie will fall to screen shot or goal happening from screen shot.
    it might or be different in NHL 20, in NHL 19, it worked wonders for full 20 minutes human vs cpu.
    but if put slider at 0-4, more goalie will become stationary and will be frozen in spot and will be beaten, so best sweet spot is 5-8 around here.
    another discovery with this, I was finally able to use higher shot accuracies and one timer accuracies and slap shot accuracies, one timer: 45 and shot accuracie: 45-47 and slap shot accuracie: 42-45.
    It was best thing for 20 minutes in NHL 19, am looking forward to testing in NHL 20 on Friday .
    Major bug in the game. Watch these videos posted by this user. Goalie AI is horrible. No awareness of where the puck is by the CPU defender and goalie on this play. Pretty brutal EA! How can you let this pass QA and into the final game? Unacceptable.
    https://youtu.be/boJI9Gs9ruU
    https://youtu.be/ISVhSBwH-W8
    Also the whooshing booming sound in the game in the trial I tested is annoying as ****! Who the hell decided this was a good idea to add to the game? The person responsible for this should be fired IMO! Just horrible.
    Trial plays way too fast on default. Too many hits and not enough room on the ice to setup and make plays. Glad I'm not buying this game. Same garbage thrown at us every year. Thanks EA. Smh..
    Some other gaming company needs to step in and make another hockey game man.. Getting tired of this BS from EA every year.
    Peter_OS
    Major bug in the game. Watch these videos posted by this user. Goalie AI is horrible. No awareness of where the puck is by the CPU defender and goalie on this play. Pretty brutal EA! How can you let this pass QA and into the final game? Unacceptable.
    https://youtu.be/boJI9Gs9ruU
    https://youtu.be/ISVhSBwH-W8
    Also the whooshing booming sound in the game in the trial I tested is annoying as ****! Who the hell decided this was a good idea to add to the game? The person responsible for this should be fired IMO! Just horrible.
    Trial plays way too fast on default. Too many hits and not enough room on the ice to setup and make plays. Glad I'm not buying this game. Same garbage thrown at us every year. Thanks EA. Smh..
    Some other gaming company needs to step in and make another hockey game man.. Getting tired of this BS from EA every year.

    I am pretty sure that if making a hockey game made money that we would have a few different developers making one. :)
    That issue right there has been in the game for a while. Again it's just the Xs and Os of each play and no awareness by the CPU. It is getting old fast though.
    Turns out some players on PlayStation, their pre orders are getting canceled. This is EA's reply on their forums, "It's not our fault, get in contact with Sony". WTH? Biggest crooks in the industry.
    Dolphins88
    Ya we need some one else to deliver s good hockey game. Hopefully 2K or Sony get us one next gen that actually plays a sim *game*

    The thought of The Show devs taking on an NHL game... if only they saw it as profitable.
    jaiman
    The thought of The Show devs taking on an NHL game... if only they saw it as profitable.

    The Show is also stagnating because, you guessed it, their version of ultimate team mode (Diamond Dynasty) has taken over. Franchise mode has seen very little improvements in the last 5 years. They even lost features. I like The Show, I played many hours (more than EA NHL) but I don't like the direction they took in the last few years.
    Every sport franchise is now an Ultimate Team affair.
    sfpxgalaxy
    The Show is also stagnating because, you guessed it, their version of ultimate team mode (Diamond Dynasty) has taken over. Franchise mode has seen very little improvements in the last 5 years. They even lost features. I like The Show, I played many hours (more than EA NHL) but I don't like the direction they took in the last few years.
    Every sport franchise is now an Ultimate Team affair.

    I agree, but in all fairness it's about economics. Back in the past a company sold say 100,000 copies at $60 per copy and made $6,000,000. Now a company can sell 100,000 copies at $60 per copy and make $6,000,000 plus another $5,000,000 in micro transactions. Unfortunately the long time customer that is just interested in playing the game as it is sold is left standing in the dark. And we can say that businesses are greedy is only part of the truth. The rest of the truth is that almost everybody has an interest in businesses making more money so that my investments make more money, and if the company doesn't make more money every year then I will take my investment and go somewhere that does. Again in the end the user that just wants to play a game the way it was made has to suffer.
    speels
    I agree, but in all fairness it's about economics. Back in the past a company sold say 100,000 copies at $60 per copy and made $6,000,000. Now a company can sell 100,000 copies at $60 per copy and make $6,000,000 plus another $5,000,000 in micro transactions. Unfortunately the long time customer that is just interested in playing the game as it is sold is left standing in the dark. And we can say that businesses are greedy is only part of the truth. The rest of the truth is that almost everybody has an interest in businesses making more money so that my investments make more money, and if the company doesn't make more money every year then I will take my investment and go somewhere that does. Again in the end the user that just wants to play a game the way it was made has to suffer.

    I honestly don't think publishers are being greedy. They are in to make money. They found a system that works and are testing how far they can go with it.
    I blame gamers for the current state of sport gaming.
    Ultimate team modes should simply no longer work after that many years and it baffles me that it's still earning the publishers that much money.
    I just wished more money of those micro-transactions was being invested in offline modes but I know the incentive is simply not there for the publishers. They obviously are investing more money into MT modes because they know they haven't found the limit of money a single 'whale' can spend on the game. The offline gamer is just a mere $60 more and it's not even guaranteed that your work on offline modes will gain him over.
    Does anybody know if it is possible to edit the names of draft picks? It really breaks the immersion when you see a latvian draft pick with the name John Rammer or Marco Rossi.
    So a quick question. With the sliders, can 20 be slowed down to the level 19 was at? I ask because I have neither and do have 20 pre-ordered. I don't mind spending the money if it is the better game but I hope the game speed can be toned down to where I've seen it on 19. New commentary is annoying but hoping they address that.
    So basically, if money isn't an object should I get 19 or 20? I would think 20 but you never know so thought I'd ask.
    It's hilarious. The CPU hits me without taking even a step toward me and I go flying. I even set the sliders of their hit power to 20 and I still get blasted. The defensive AI is so stupid it's like it was programmedafter watching the Phoenix Coyotes defense.
    I do enjoy the new shot animations, puck pickups and the commentary is fun.
    The series gets a lot of crap and I get it but I will say I love the skating, the shooting and the true broadcast camera. Those are all big winners to me.
    hrudey32
    So a quick question. With the sliders, can 20 be slowed down to the level 19 was at? I ask because I have neither and do have 20 pre-ordered. I don't mind spending the money if it is the better game but I hope the game speed can be toned down to where I've seen it on 19. New commentary is annoying but hoping they address that.
    So basically, if money isn't an object should I get 19 or 20? I would think 20 but you never know so thought I'd ask.

    I found 20 to be a tad fast. Without touching game speed, I dropped acceleration and agility to 45 and I thought it felt similar to 19. Not a huge change for me, but I guess it all depends what sliders you used and what your definition of "too fast" and "too slow" are you know? The new puck pickup animations sped the game up a bit, so I think only a small change was necessary to get it in that perfect balance of realism and fun video game speed.
    HipNotiiC_x
    I found 20 to be a tad fast. Without touching game speed, I dropped acceleration and agility to 45 and I thought it felt similar to 19. Not a huge change for me, but I guess it all depends what sliders you used and what your definition of "too fast" and "too slow" are you know? The new puck pickup animations sped the game up a bit, so I think only a small change was necessary to get it in that perfect balance of realism and fun video game speed.

    In 16, which was last game played, I put speed at 1. I'm sure 20 defaults fast as it looks fast but can you slow it down right much? I think it defaults at 3?
    sfpxgalaxy
    The Show is also stagnating because, you guessed it, their version of ultimate team mode (Diamond Dynasty) has taken over. Franchise mode has seen very little improvements in the last 5 years. They even lost features. I like The Show, I played many hours (more than EA NHL) but I don't like the direction they took in the last few years.
    Every sport franchise is now an Ultimate Team affair.

    Agreed. There are features and even options that were removed from MLB, that frustrate me. With that said, I’m thinking more along the lines of gameplay (for the most part) and authenticity to the sport itself.
    hrudey32
    In 16, which was last game played, I put speed at 1. I'm sure 20 defaults fast as it looks fast but can you slow it down right much? I think it defaults at 3?

    Yes the default is still 3. You can easily slow the game down to your liking. Some of the skating animations seem a little too unrealistically fast as well, so I definitely recommend the small agility/accel nerfs as well.
    jaiman
    Agreed. There are features and even options that were removed from MLB, that frustrate me. With that said, I’m thinking more along the lines of gameplay (for the most part) and authenticity to the sport itself.

    Baseball is also a lot easier to capture. Same with basketball and football.
    Gameplay feels good to me so far. But a couple of issues I have is that the new play by play announcer is way too hyper. Also like last year, the PA announcer does not get excited when the home team scores. Only shows excitement when he says the time of the goal. And of course goal horns and music aren't like the teams have in real life. Was hoping they would bring that back. I guess not.
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    I know we're waiting on the official roster update, but what are the current rosters right now? Are they still end of last years or have they been updated at all from the off-season?
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    I think the announcer is great tbh. He's actually excited when things happen. It's a much bigger improvement. But there's a lot of anger and frustration that I suffer from with the gameplay. Oh and the coaching thing is completely useless. A different coach changes nothing.
    SocialAssassin
    I think the announcer is great tbh. He's actually excited when things happen. It's a much bigger improvement. But there's a lot of anger and frustration that I suffer from with the gameplay. Oh and the coaching thing is completely useless. A different coach changes nothing.

    What do you mean a different coach changes nothing? I think I know what you're going to say as it is what I was afraid of, but if you could elaborate that would be great.
    Roscosuper
    What do you mean a different coach changes nothing? I think I know what you're going to say as it is what I was afraid of, but if you could elaborate that would be great.

    Your team doesn't play any different no matter who your coach is. It's all the same, back and forth, back and forth. You take the puck up with no resistance, take a shot or have it blocked, they take it back, no resistance and take a shot. There's no stylistic differences with a new coach. Same ol' crapola.
    mbergh22
    Gameplay feels good to me so far. But a couple of issues I have is that the new play by play announcer is way too hyper. Also like last year, the PA announcer does not get excited when the home team scores. Only shows excitement when he says the time of the goal. And of course goal horns and music aren't like the teams have in real life. Was hoping they would bring that back. I guess not.
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    This is one of the biggest gripes with EAs Hockey Game, it’s
    A real shame that they name this Game an NHL Game without the real Horns /Songs.
    Cancel the Soundtrack Songs and spend the money for real NHL goal horn and songs lisences...damn it’s an NHL Hockey Video Game!
    SocialAssassin
    Your team doesn't play any different no matter who your coach is. It's all the same, back and forth, back and forth. You take the puck up with no resistance, take a shot or have it blocked, they take it back, no resistance and take a shot. There's no stylistic differences with a new coach. Same ol' crapola.

    It’s like watching low-level minor league hockey. Skate, skate, pass, shoot. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    BleacherCreature
    It’s like watching low-level minor league hockey. Skate, skate, pass, shoot. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    And that’s because of EAs refusal to incorporate any player separation and any difference in player types. Despite all its flaws if this game had that it would feel and play light years different. In its current state it’s nothing more than enhanced pong
    jake19ny
    And that’s because of EAs refusal to incorporate any player separation and any difference in player types. Despite all its flaws if this game had that it would feel and play light years different. In its current state it’s nothing more than enhanced pong

    I’ve actually enjoyed playing ECHL games in recent years. The players aren’t nearly as highly rated as NHL guys and the games just feel more balanced. There isn’t a lot of separation there either, but players also don’t skate up and down the ice at will at breakneck speed.
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    A couple minor observations....not important but inexcusable. Obviously we all know it’s absurd not having a roster share but it’s also pathetic that we still have the same limited play by play names list that dates back 2 consoles, Awful that we still have black silhouettes for faces in overlays. And lame that most teams still have the same boring and unimaginative goalie masks they have had since NHL 10. It’s not paramount to game play but it shows you how lazy they are.
    jake19ny
    A couple minor observations....not important but inexcusable. Obviously we all know it’s absurd not having a roster share but it’s also pathetic that we still have the same limited play by play names list that dates back 2 consoles, Awful that we still have black silhouettes for faces in overlays. And lame that most teams still have the same boring and unimaginative goalie masks they have had since NHL 10. It’s not paramount to game play but it shows you how lazy they are.

    And we still don't have the option to choose no play by play name.
    Grabbed EA Access for a month and gave it a try last night.
    I think overall the gameplay has improved: skating, passing, shooting, control of your player specifically in the offensive zone around the blue line, are all much smoother.
    That said, it's still an arcade game, online at least. Like stated above, skate as fast as you can up and down the ice and shoot. New shot exploits exist, but I guess that was expected.
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    jake19ny
    A couple minor observations....not important but inexcusable. Obviously we all know it’s absurd not having a roster share but it’s also pathetic that we still have the same limited play by play names list that dates back 2 consoles, Awful that we still have black silhouettes for faces in overlays. And lame that most teams still have the same boring and unimaginative goalie masks they have had since NHL 10. It’s not paramount to game play but it shows you how lazy they are.

    Exactly my words and missing things, including the less face scans of only 30 Players they added so far.
    jake19ny
    A couple minor observations....not important but inexcusable. Obviously we all know it’s absurd not having a roster share but it’s also pathetic that we still have the same limited play by play names list that dates back 2 consoles, Awful that we still have black silhouettes for faces in overlays. And lame that most teams still have the same boring and unimaginative goalie masks they have had since NHL 10. It’s not paramount to game play but it shows you how lazy they are.
    Well, I can say that the Oilers have at least one new goalie mask on Koskinen, and the definitely havent been the same since NHL10.
    Maybe they just choose a few teams a year though, who knows.
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    jake19ny
    A couple minor observations....not important but inexcusable. Obviously we all know it’s absurd not having a roster share but it’s also pathetic that we still have the same limited play by play names list that dates back 2 consoles, Awful that we still have black silhouettes for faces in overlays. And lame that most teams still have the same boring and unimaginative goalie masks they have had since NHL 10. It’s not paramount to game play but it shows you how lazy they are.

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    Gangrel
    Well, I can say that the Oilers have at least one new goalie mask on Koskinen, and the definitely havent been the same since NHL10.
    Maybe they just choose a few teams a year though, who knows.
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    That Oilers mask isn’t new they just changed the cage from orange to white. They have added a few here and there but many teams still have the same lame masks.
    jake19ny
    That Oilers mask isn’t new they just changed the cage from orange to white. They have added a few here and there but many teams still have the same lame masks.

    It could be not very hard to give us a mask creator app, maybe same way as to create new Jerseys for a new made Team. Or possibility to create a mask on PC or Tablet on an app and after to upload to account and Goaltender. A fast way would be if they gave us the possibility that NHL, or AHL Goalies can wear CHL Junior masks. The Range would be much wider and more individual for Goalies.
    BleacherCreature
    It’s like watching low-level minor league hockey. Skate, skate, pass, shoot. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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    Well said.
    And it has been this way since I remember. That's why the gameplay feels so shallow and just boring, if you have any sense for real hockey.
    You can't change it with added fluff or stripped down mini modes. Of course not.
    Unfortunately this will never change when you have in charge a person that doesn't feel hockey and how great that game is in it's core.
    You can't even explain these things to such a person. Its not working. You have to feel it yourself.
    DJ NEO
    Well said.
    And it has been this way since I remember. That's why the gameplay feels so shallow and just boring, if you have any sense for real hockey.
    You can't change it with added fluff or stripped down mini modes. Of course not.
    Unfortunately this will never change when you have in charge a person that doesn't feel hockey and how great that game is in it's core.
    You can't even explain these things to such a person. Its not working. You have to feel it yourself.

    Though I do agree with what you say for the most part I also am at least glad we have at least 1 hockey game on console these days. No, it's nowhere where it should be at this point and yes it is too arcade, though it still can be enjoyable if tweaked majorly. I really don't want there to be a day when there are no new hockey games on the market for console. So I'm torn on this a bit. I'm glad EA is still there when everyone else has dropped out. But the sad fact is that the market pushed them out and the market thinks the fluff is more important. It sucks.
    I remember a day when we had NHL Powerplay, NHL Championship 2000, NHL Breakaway, EA, 2K, Rivals, Faceoff/Gretzky and Hitz Pro. I realize the market is small but it's weird that we have 3 motocross/supercross games and only one hockey game. The NHL is nowhere near the NFL but it's a lot bigger than MX/SX. So kinda weird.
    Well ya, some people believe that business always needs to "grow" no matter what.
    So they push so hard for the growth until they kill it completely.
    I know this forum is about games, but I can see many examples everywhere in the world.
    And usually these people never take the blame when is too late.
    At this point I would be happy if they introduced varied skating animations and assigned them at random. So even if Marc Staal’s skating stride looked like a speedster and McDavid’s looked awkward and chunky, we’d at least have some variety in what the players look like. Allowing us to edit the stride in the player editor would be fine, and even if not, I’d rather have it be random but have some variety. Even if they didn’t feel ANY different to handle, just seeing some players LOOK different on the ice would be a massive improvement. 3-4 skating styles. Some variation in the goalies too. Again, even if it had no impact on how they felt to play, just giving us something that made the look of gameplay feel less static and robotic would be heaven sent.
    I'm really enjoying it. Sid Abel, Ted Lindsay, Gordie Howe and I lit up the Islanders alumni 6-2.
    I've isolated and edited all of the alumni lines, so there's only one of each player in an 18 team season I'm playing using the QMJHL league and replacing all of the teams. (Combined Hartford and Minny,) moved some guys from LA to Quebec (Dionne and Robitaille) and spread Washington around. Left the newer teams out. 18 team control, no trades, no injuries, playing random games.
    Played since 92' and this is the best yet. (Well, 94' was special...)
    Kudos to EA for the new version. Though the changes to gameplay are subtle, they are very noticeable in the flow of play. There is less jerky unrealistic movement and the flow of play is much better.
    I played a Squad Battle HUT game on Superstar and squeezed out a shootout win and I've never had so much fun and I've been playing this game a long time. Glad I preordered to get the Deluxe edition with the Diamond pack where I got Duchene, Rinne, Couture, Domi, Lindholm.
    Also think it's fantastic that they got the alumni teams in there. Must have taken a lot of work and now I get to play with all the players out of my past (I'm 66). I made a Franchise mode with most of the alumni and just played the Kings with Gretzky. What a blast. I do have to make the sliders in my favor when playing these all star teams from the past against my present day Canucks, but that's why I like Franchise..because I can mess with sliders endlessly to my liking.
    Also tried the Trade Finder to shop around Kole Lind and got Siegenthaler plus a 2020 2nd round pick. Love that feature.
    It's going to be a good year for hockey.
    I'm really liking the game. Its smooth, i like the new commentary and presentation, and thats as much as i have the energy to say right now.
    Im having fun again. Its been a while.
    SocialAssassin
    Remember like six years ago, you could create your own breakout plays? Technology is supposed to improve over time, not freakin' regress!
    I really liked that feature, clunky as it was to use. I spent hours recording plays and it made a real difference on gameplay. IIRC from my community day trip years ago, the dev who built it left the team soon after, making it harder to do much with it.
    Qb
    I really liked that feature, clunky as it was to use. I spent hours recording plays and it made a real difference on gameplay. IIRC from my community day trip years ago, the dev who built it left the team soon after, making it harder to do much with it.

    That doesn't make sense to me though. If he left, he can't take that with him? That feature should still be available to them, or are the new developers dumb and can't recreate it? Find someone who can then? It's just crazy.
    SocialAssassin
    Remember like six years ago, you could create your own breakout plays? Technology is supposed to improve over time, not freakin' regress!

    Blame me. I tried that feature out for a day or two, then never thought about it again. When 90%+ of your customers aren't interested na feature, it's probably not going to be around much longer.
    Not saying it was a bad feature. But I suppose it had some impact on game balance and other stuff, and it wasn't worth fixing or improving.
    Kind of like how not a freaking single person mentioning the lack of home ice advantage on face-offs. Home teams stopped getting the advantage of last change before face-off and no one said a word. It was taken out because online guys would drop out of any game they were the road team, but it was cut for offline, too.
    But, apparently, even the offline simulation guys never noticed. I liked it because it encouraged me to really think about how I used my lines to take advantage of my opponent. That created a better sense of disadvantage when I was on the road and i had to pick a line without knowing who my opponent was running out on the ice.
    but if folks don't mind, that's what they arguing to do. It's one of the reasons I never really take the concerns of sim gamers all that serious. It's an easy thing to fix, it's feature that used to be in, but, apparently, not important enough to even realize it is a thing. They took it out because online guys hated it and sim guys didn't even realize it was a thing.
    Them's the breaks.
    Did break out and play some HUT last night, after all. I figured i would see how good my team was just based on the premium edition packs you get, plus all the loyalty rewards from having played HUT for the last few years. without spending a dime, other than the extra $40 the game cost, I ended up with a 83 OVR team. And really, that because though it all ,i never got even a decent goalie. My offense is an 89 OVR, and my defense was around 85 OVER, I think.
    I also have a crap ton of cards to sell now, and about 3K in coins in hand. I may end up playing this a bit, and try to build a Blues focused team like my Chiefs focused MUT team. But Chel and Threes is still what I will probably play the most.
    Be a Pro is a mode I bounced off of every year because out was so stale and boring. I love Chel, though, getting to level up a player and still play a variety of modes. And playing EASHL with my Chel player is a lot more fun because the grind to get a good guy is not so, well, grindy.
    Qb
    I really liked that feature, clunky as it was to use. I spent hours recording plays and it made a real difference on gameplay. IIRC from my community day trip years ago, the dev who built it left the team soon after, making it harder to do much with it.

    I custom-made cycle plays and powerplay set-ups. Man, that was such an awesome feature even if it wasn't perfect. I was able to fix a lot of AI issues with that.
    I'd hope with coaches now in the game we can do something like that that maybe even AI teams could use.
    Bottom line this game is trash. EA do not deserve the licence. I don't think the devs even watch NHL. I just had 4 short handed goals and 5 big goalies errors in 1 game. And I upped the goalie sliders for user and cpu.
    This will be the first nhl game i do not buy in a long time.
    Woeful.
    MDgolf
    How up to date are the rosters?
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    If you want a good Roster including NHL and AHL Teams you need to wait till end of Nov. The AHL Player need to sign a kind of Waiver and many are usually not in till this date.
    SocialAssassin
    Your team doesn't play any different no matter who your coach is. It's all the same, back and forth, back and forth. You take the puck up with no resistance, take a shot or have it blocked, they take it back, no resistance and take a shot. There's no stylistic differences with a new coach. Same ol' crapola.

    Everyone already knew this going in. The coaches do not effect live gameplay. They mainly effect the sim engine and player development.
    I have already created a couple of house rules to make it more enjoyable. Whenever I hire a coach I stick with his strategies and rotations no matter what. This gives me a feel of actually bringing a guy in and really commuting to his system.
    All and all this years game is a good step in the right direction. I am loving all of the new additions. The only gripe I have is the user defense is terrible. You literally have no tools to combat CPU offensive players.
    reth316
    Bottom line this game is trash. EA do not deserve the licence. I don't think the devs even watch NHL. I just had 4 short handed goals and 5 big goalies errors in 1 game. And I upped the goalie sliders for user and cpu.
    This will be the first nhl game i do not buy in a long time.
    Woeful.

    What a week thought out and insightful response
    After playing a few more games, I've got to say, this game is a must have for everyone who loves hockey.
    The new skating animations make the game flow in a way I've never experienced. It's heading to the point of blurring the lines between video game and reality. I appreciate the care that the EA team put into this part of the game because it's not immediately obvious as a new flashy feature, but shows they really are working out the fine details of animation that are so difficult for a game like hockey. I think you can see the same over the years in FIFA where the running around starts to look more natural and fluid and not just jerky.
    I play mostly offline and I've never felt this game like it is this year.
    And have to say I really like the commentators for the first time ever. The variety and detail of their comments really adds to the experience. Feel very proud that our local Vancouver guys have put this together. I like the enthusiasm they have. It's definitely what I want to hear in a video game. If they can keep adding to their database to include even more game specific situations that will be incredible.
    fiddlerpaul
    After playing a few more games, I've got to say, this game is a must have for everyone who loves hockey.
    The new skating animations make the game flow in a way I've never experienced. It's heading to the point of blurring the lines between video game and reality. I appreciate the care that the EA team put into this part of the game because it's not immediately obvious as a new flashy feature, but shows they really are working out the fine details of animation that are so difficult for a game like hockey. I think you can see the same over the years in FIFA where the running around starts to look more natural and fluid and not just jerky.
    I play mostly offline and I've never felt this game like it is this year.
    And have to say I really like the commentators for the first time ever. The variety and detail of their comments really adds to the experience. Feel very proud that our local Vancouver guys have put this together. I like the enthusiasm they have. It's definitely what I want to hear in a video game. If they can keep adding to their database to include even more game specific situations that will be incredible.

    10 char.....
    fiddlerpaul
    After playing a few more games, I've got to say, this game is a must have for everyone who loves hockey.
    The new skating animations make the game flow in a way I've never experienced. It's heading to the point of blurring the lines between video game and reality. I appreciate the care that the EA team put into this part of the game because it's not immediately obvious as a new flashy feature, but shows they really are working out the fine details of animation that are so difficult for a game like hockey. I think you can see the same over the years in FIFA where the running around starts to look more natural and fluid and not just jerky.
    I play mostly offline and I've never felt this game like it is this year.
    And have to say I really like the commentators for the first time ever. The variety and detail of their comments really adds to the experience. Feel very proud that our local Vancouver guys have put this together. I like the enthusiasm they have. It's definitely what I want to hear in a video game. If they can keep adding to their database to include even more game specific situations that will be incredible.

    Must have? Had a good laugh at that. This is not a must have game. I'm sorry. Nothing has changed with the gameplay with NHL 2020 and for years with EA NHL. Especially with the AI and player differentiation.
    Local Vancouver guys? I think this guy works for EA Canada in Vancouver. There is no other way. :lol:
    Peter_OS
    Must have? Had a good laugh at that. This is not a must have game. I'm sorry. Nothing has changed with the gameplay with NHL 2020 and for years with EA NHL. Especially with the AI and player differentiation.
    Local Vancouver guys? I think this guy works for EA Canada in Vancouver. There is no other way. :lol:

    No need to call someone out for liking the game. We are all entitled to our own opinion of the game.
    Anyone else keep getting a message that you aren’t playing on the profile that owns the license (EA Access)? I’m on the correct profile but I still get the message. If I restart the PS4 I can then sometimes get in. I did that last night then got booted at the end of the first period.
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    I never thought of this, but it's a good idea from IGN:
    EA also needs to address physicality, an area of NHL 20 that currently has no nuance. Too often when players collide, a giant check leaves the recipient on the ice – or they just glance off. NHL would benefit greatly from a FIFA-style jostling system that allowed stronger players to dislodge the puck from smaller and weaker players without completely knocking them off their skates.

    That jostling system would actually be so good for hockey. They definitely need to add that into the game.
    Peter_OS
    Must have? Had a good laugh at that. This is not a must have game. I'm sorry. Nothing has changed with the gameplay with NHL 2020 and for years with EA NHL. Especially with the AI and player differentiation.
    Local Vancouver guys? I think this guy works for EA Canada in Vancouver. There is no other way. :lol:

    How could you not want a game with puck pickups the way they are now? I can see it not being enough for you, but for me the flow of the game is much better and more realistic than before. I guess I'm in the camp of wanting the best version of hockey, even if it's only happening in increments. Like people who get a new Iphone even though it only has tiny improvements.
    @os_peter
    The response from the GameChanger who represents the goalie community:
    Venom, when you were talking about sharp angle shots in your earlier post, this is not what I thought you meant... I don't know if the person controlling the goalie came off the post themselves or if it came off automatically? That person shouldn't have left the post if they didn't want the puck to hit off their pad and go onto the goal line. Common sense says to remain on the post, hold Y (if using manual covers) to cover it.
    If the goalie came off the post automatically then there's an issue, but it doesn't appear that way.

    Looks like it could be user error. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    SocialAssassin
    I never thought of this, but it's a good idea from IGN:
    That jostling system would actually be so good for hockey. They definitely need to add that into the game.

    Absolutely. That plus re-working board play to be more natural (jostling and pushing players into the boards to slow them down, for example) would change the game dramatically, for the better.
    My biggest fear gameplay-wise is the development team caters the on-ice action to things that the online community would like - whatever creates flashy goals or plays, basically. This isn't a bad thing by itself, of course, but that's how we end up with like 3 straight years of, "we've added more dekes and moves!"
    Something like jostling would be a welcome improvement to give players a more real feeling when they collide, and I would love for it to be in NHL21. I do wonder what next-gen is going to look like and what the plans for NHL next-gen includes. They absolutely cannot start from scratch like they did for PS4/XboxOne generation.
    tyler289
    Absolutely. That plus re-working board play to be more natural (jostling and pushing players into the boards to slow them down, for example) would change the game dramatically, for the better.
    My biggest fear gameplay-wise is the development team caters the on-ice action to things that the online community would like - whatever creates flashy goals or plays, basically. This isn't a bad thing by itself, of course, but that's how we end up with like 3 straight years of, "we've added more dekes and moves!"
    Something like jostling would be a welcome improvement to give players a more real feeling when they collide, and I would love for it to be in NHL21. I do wonder what next-gen is going to look like and what the plans for NHL next-gen includes. They absolutely cannot start from scratch like they did for PS4/XboxOne generation.

    For jostling I (and some others) asked for the 1st time in 2009, when NHL 2k10 introduced it.
    Then EVERY single year.
    In 2017 I stopped when I left the GC group and realized it doesn't really matter what we want.
    DJ NEO
    For jostling I (and some others) asked for the 1st time in 2009, when NHL 2k10 introduced it.
    Then EVERY single year.
    In 2017 I stopped when I left the GC group and realized it doesn't really matter what we want.

    Just pathetic. I hate stuff like this. Your motto is if it's in the game, it's in the game. Live up to that.
    Godgers12
    Now there's a lock symbol on the app. Nice...
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    Godgers12
    So apparently I don't have the license for this game as it is not letting me play it. What a joke.
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    hyacinth1
    So mny ppl having this issue. Where is ea to fix this?

    Does it have anything to do with the fact that the game came out today? I got EA Access on ps4 and was able to play yesterday but can't today. Just curious if it is because the game came out today.
    ezio
    Does it have anything to do with the fact that the game came out today? I got EA Access on ps4 and was able to play yesterday but can't today. Just curious if it is because the game came out today.

    it shouldn't. in the past all the EA Access trials have worked when the full game came out.
    update : xbox EA Access trial works fine. Its only the PS4 trail that's messed up.
    I purchased today...I did not play the beta and after one game, I think it might be the best NHL in quite some time...although I like NHL 19. Game definitely has a different feel and I saw some really good things from the CPU...especially in regards to their goals. I also love James Cybulski calling the game.....lots of energy and definitely adds to the excitement of the game. The fun factor is definitely there....I'm pleasantly surprised.
    mdgoalie37
    Anyone else keep getting a message that you aren’t playing on the profile that owns the license (EA Access)? I’m on the correct profile but I still get the message. If I restart the PS4 I can then sometimes get in. I did that last night then got booted at the end of the first period.
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    Same problem on PS4. I have 1 hour left and I cannot play.
    DJ NEO
    Well said.
    And it has been this way since I remember. That's why the gameplay feels so shallow and just boring, if you have any sense for real hockey.
    You can't change it with added fluff or stripped down mini modes. Of course not.
    Unfortunately this will never change when you have in charge a person that doesn't feel hockey and how great that game is in it's core.
    You can't even explain these things to such a person. Its not working. You have to feel it yourself.

    Which is why we say please hurry with your release. :tongue:
    20 is a much more immersive experience than 19, and I was more than happy with 19’s offline experience.
    Animations look great for the most part. Obviously RPM shooting will have some hiccups in the 1st year, but the simple flick-up snapshot animations absolutely phenomenal.
    Goalie chest smothers, stick/blocker redirections, and the new cover animations are all mesmerizing to say the least being a goalie IRL. Again, I’ve seen a few hiccups but there isn’t another game that can honestly say their blocker/stick deflections were as clean and purposeful as NHL 20s. 100% impressed.
    New puck pickup animations make the game flow so nicely compared to 19, and 19 was a drastic leap forward from 18. Think back to 18 and realize how far this team has come, because you’ll be adult be impressed by all of these “small” things that add up.
    Hitting is one area I’m actually not liking as much as 19. I find the hits are too black and white (whiffs or Scott Stevens knockout blows) , and ill have to definitely do some extensive slider testing to find the perfect balance of whiffs, big hits, and nonchalant yet eye-candy rubouts for ya hardcore fans out there (something I thought 19 did very well with.)
    I really like the general theme of the scoreboard minus the placement (give us the option at least, please!) and the PP glitching animation. I also despise the “GOAL” pop up after a goal. I mean, how much more hideous and cartoonish can a presentation element be? Ick. The lack of the NBC license should open the door for a wide-array of presentation features that could easily put-class a licensed one. Unfortunately, they went arcadey/discount NHL HITZ on the package, and I’d hope they bounce back for 21.
    Franchise mode is still archaic and isolationist. No feeling of a living league, no real connection to any other team, can’t really build your own storyline as the mode simply doesn’t make you care enough to look at what the rest of the league is doing. A lack of box scores for previous games still bugs me, as it was one of the coolest and most immersive aspects of the late NHL 2k10’s offering. No multiple team franchise mode means you can’t play any games outside of your own, which again isolates the user from the rest of the league.
    Another year lacking a custom tournament builder like FIFA offers really hurts the game, as there’s no way to play a round-robin + bracket tournament anymore. The one mode that could serve that purpose is the Champions Hockey League, but unfortunately EA doesn’t let you sub teams into that mode which seems like a huge waste of an opportunity. I’d imagine there’s lots of EU players who hav favorite teams that didn’t qualify for the CHL, and I could only imagine how frustrating that’d be to see that mode in the game yet have no way to enjoy the mode with your favorite team.
    Lack of roster sharing/being able to carry-over custom teams are both non-surprising omissions, but as a create-a-team junkie, one can only dream about the possibility of those features being introduced at some point in the next-gen. I can’t believe EA built the Teambuilder tool for NCAA yet failed to implement that same technology across all of their sports offerings. Seems like a waste, and seems like something that would definitely be welcomed by many gamers if they made a push towards customization.
    All in all, my 10 hours flew by with this game. I was so perfectly content with 19 as I’ve put easily more than 1000 hours into making it the experience I wanted, but I don’t think I can sit-out much longer after my trial. The game really does look and feel that much better. I can even look past the lack of AI improvements as the animations alone make this game much more of an enjoyable experience. It’s polished, it’s fast, it’s fun. I’m getting deja vu as I had almost this exact same experience with the release of Madden 20. So far, 2020 is looking like it will be a solid year for EA’s core sports offerings, and I can’t wait to dive into FIFA 20 based on how well my reception has been to both Madden and NHL.
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    Wow, the game is really good this year! Shooting feels fantastic and the goalies are actually REALLY good. I ended up having to turn down goalies to 40 on save and deflection reaction, and bump up all shot accuracy and power up by 5 to get games that weren't 1-0, but I say that in a good way. Goalies are very competent and look/act very realistic. I played 10 games against the AI and 8 games with my dad today and only saw one unrealistic, glitchy goal as opposed to seeing one every other match like years prior.
    Hitting is odd but easily fixable. I had to turn hitting power down to 20 because anything past that made players fly across the rink with even the smallest hit. Once you adjust hitting power it looks and feels a lot better.
    The AI is also a lot more fun to play against. They still tend to pass a lot, but will also pepper you with shots. Most games me and the AI were within 3-5 shots of each other, as opposed to the past 10 iterations of the game where I would outshoot the AI by 20+ every game.
    I know every time a new sports game comes out people are quick to hype it up and act like it's the best version yet, then hate on it a month later, but I actually think this game is really good, easily the best of the current console gen. They focused development on a few aspects of the gameplay and made major improvements to them, and it helps to make the game feel drastically different in a great way.
    hyacinth1
    it shouldn't. in the past all the EA Access trials have worked when the full game came out.
    update : xbox EA Access trial works fine. Its only the PS4 trail that's messed up.

    Ok. thank you for the response.
    After working on a paper until almost midnight, I thought I'd play a game of NHL before bed. Despite having 9 hours left on my trial, I could not access it, but I could play Madden (so I did and it's not for me).
    I tried a quick Google search... And it suggests I follow EA on Twitter for updates. Has anyone had any luck contacting EA or Sony? I still have a lot of writing to do, and it doesn't include going in circles with customer support!
    Thanks
    Oh and since this is an impressions thread, I played one game earlier this week. Beat the Sabres 4-3 in OT, going 3 for 5 on the PP with the Penguins playing all-star/full-sim/7min. Dropped gamespeed to two, then one, and could probably play on zero. Didn't change any other sliders. Can't give much feedback on the new animations from one game, plus play moves so quickly it's hard enough to keep up at times. I did see a pretty sweet CPU one-timer goal off a faceoff by a left-shooting RW fed by the Dman. Looked smooth and somewhat representative of a set play prevalent in today's game.
    It was fun, but not a style I want to play repeatedly, at least against the CPU. I bet full sim would be good online 1v1, but I'm not sure that's even an option. I had a stretch playing 19 quite a bit with heavy slider changes, so I'm sure 20 can be massaged in a similar way. Jay Ironhook's sliders served as great base for me in 19.
    My gaming time is limited, so I won't be buying the game for now. I might pick it up cheap around the holidays if I'm still interested.
    Well, I have to be honest. And this is coming from a long time 2K fan. I'm really enjoying 20. Like really loving it. I have some issues of course but for the most part they aren't that major. Now granted, I spent all yesterday evening tweaking sliders and am still doing so but I've got the game where it is playing really well with lots of loose pucks, scrums, etc.
    The controls feel great to me. They feel better than any hockey game I have played. And The skating, the shooting. The new animations are very nice. And I am trying to tune the game as defensive as possible as the AI is still pretty suspect defensively.
    With all that being said I have to be honest. I played more yesterday, last night into the wee hours and now this morning than I have played any video game in years. Part of that was cause Wife out of town. Lol. But I've been playing MX/SX games the last few years mainly and honestly they are so less detailed that coming back to hockey not only feels great but feels like I'm getting a lot more and just way more in control and immersed. MX is a smaller sport, of course. Budgets but they also make weird decisions in that gaming genre.
    I'm still working on sliders but most of my gripes are about the presentation right now as I feel pretty happy with the gameplay. There. I said it! Yeah, there are issues defensively in particular and there needs to be more neutral zone play, tougher to gain the line, etc but I'm not focusing on saying the same thing all of us have said for years. I do think it is better than it has been.
    But ironically, despite what I thought, I am actually ok with Cybulski because the amount of content there, to me, is making up for the over excitement which is, for certain kinda aggravating. Now that, again, is something I hope they continue to work on and get him to tone it down some and record some more low key lines. But still, the commentary isn't my main gripe. For the most part I am enjoying it and there seems to be a ton of dialogue. My favorite line from James was "from the spot 99 made famous." Nice.
    What I don't care for are pretty simple things. I'm more of a HNIC/Sportsnet presentation kinda guy so I'm ok leaving the NBCSN presentation as I'd prefer it to have a more Canadian feel, which with the announcers now it does have in their birthplaces. But Cybulski needs more varied cadences and just some conversational lines that aren't all amped up. And yeah, I'd prefer them to just mimic HNIC and drop all the over the top stuff, visual wise. Ray is fine, as usual.
    Changes that need to be addressed.
    -I hate the big Goal graphic. I'm sure everyone does. No secret.
    -The EA graphic gets old too with the big whoosh. Again, not terrible but I could do w/o it.
    -The flashing PP graphic. Ugh.
    -This is the biggie, to me. (Again, I'm big into presentation so here you go.) There are a decent amount of pop up stats but 80% pop up at literally the time the puck is dropped on the ticker by the team name so there's no way you can even look at them and still when the draw. That part is absolutely perplexing. EA, please fix this where the stats pop up directly after whistle.
    That is literally my main gripes right now. Yeah, the defensive AI needs lots of work but it's EA. You have to kinda understand that. Players do seem to be maintaining their positions better to me so that is good. And, with my sliders, I am getting what feels like a realistic close to simulation. There are tons of battles on the boards, loose pucks, scrums, and fighting to clear the zone. It's not perfect but it feels more like real hockey than anything EA has ever done. To me, that is.
    There are some things about presentation I like a lot. Such as:
    When it does the pop up stat that says a player goals/assists/points on the big overlay graphic. That looks nice. The faceoff and shots pop up from the team name is ok but I'd prefer it as a big overlay. Also, they need to stay up longer where you can advance them when done, in my opinion.
    I like the upcoming tv schedule pop up. Little touches like that are nice. We just need more of them.
    My main borderline complaint gameplay wise, other than again realizing you have to tune the heck out of it and it's still a bit up and down...it's EA hockey still but much better to me now, is the game speed. I've got it on 1 and it still feels a touch fast to me. I honestly don't want to drop it down to 0 as then there will be no where left to go and game speed is real important to me. Its fine at 1 but I'm trying to slow it down a touch with other sliders and still have that extra increment if need to. But for the most part I am happy on 1 so that's ok but def doesn't need to be any quicker.
    Lastly, the absolute win of this game, to me, is the true broadcast camera angle. Game speed, skating, decent AI, presentation and a great camera are like so important to me. I can't state how much I absolutely love the true broadcast angle with the shooting done to left and right and camera relative. I love it. It captures, again, the look of a broadcast so well.
    So...yeah, I know there are always a ton of complaints about EA's hockey and I totally get it. And I pretty much started on EA in 93 then drifted to 2K towards the end of it's run. But I have been enjoying 16 quite a bit over last couple months and 20 is light years better. I guess point being is that I have played over 8 hours since getting the physical copy. And I haven't done that with any video game since 2K8. I jsut don't get to game that much and with some of the games I honestly don't want to. I want to play 20. So, that tells me I'm enjoying it. Sure, things need tweaking and maybe I'm just used to stripped down moto games now but I have been as big a hockey gamer as anyone in my life and I personally think this game is pretty darn good. So there you go, from an old schooler!
    Nice breakdown, Hrudey. With 19, I had some luck manipulating accel/agility, pass speed, and fatigue to take some of the edge off the speed of play. I also found it necessary to give puck carrier skating a boost to recapture explosiveness and avoid defender catch up (not sure if that's needed this year). So there was less scrambling, or maybe more accurately, it was punished more.
    The only downside is the CPU AI could have trouble handling this dynamic and I was routinely hammering teams with the Pens in my playoff mode. I don't like Superstar, didn't want to juice goalies to compensate, so I never quite found the balance and lost interest.
    Qb
    Nice breakdown, Hrudey. With 19, I had some luck manipulating accel/agility, pass speed, and fatigue to take some of the edge off the speed of play. I also found it necessary to give puck carrier skating a boost to recapture explosiveness and avoid defender catch up (not sure if that's needed this year). So there was less scrambling, or maybe more accurately, it was punished more.
    The only downside is the CPU AI could have trouble handling this dynamic and I was routinely hammering teams with the Pens in my playoff mode. I don't like Superstar, didn't want to juice goalies to compensate, so I never quite found the balance and lost interest.

    I globally dropped acceleration/agility to 45, and I dropped puck carrier speed speed/agility to 45 and I still feel like I can pull away when the time is right. The new pickup animations are great for that!
    Still having trouble finding a solid checking-tab slider set that gives good enough small, rubout hits without completely removing big hits.
    I’ve also noticed some slapshots going in 5-hole from the point without a tip or screen. A lot of my sliders are based off of my 19 set, so I think I’m more in the tinkering stage than full-on discovery/full-out changes stage which is much more ahead of pace than my 19 set.
    Really excited to dive-in, make my teams, and enjoy NHL 20!
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    Coaches/scouts take away from realism.
    Why are most of the ones you can hire women or black?
    If we could edit them that would be good enough for me.
    I would love to have Jarome Iginla or Haley Wickenheiser in there working their way up.
    It's not that I have anything against opportunity for all in real life, but this is not a true representation of the sport and feels forced on us.
    Imagine NBA2K having most of the draft class as white guys, sure they can play but it's not realistic.
    As an online player, mainly because I play with friends and have always found VS competition more exciting (cheeseing and exploits aside) all of this slider talk really pisses me off that we haven't had Connected Franchise....like we did last Gen.
    It's actually a joke that we don't have it. I could definitely get into Franchise mode with a buddy from our respective houses with the ability to tune the game.
    Online is just way too fast. All of the gameplay improvements are great, but get cancelled out by the warp-speed nature of online play and that is frustrating.
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    Every time I do the rosters, go into a new game mode and come back out, it reverts all my edits. This is a glitch. They need to fix it. TO put in Marner's 10M dollar deal again is such a pain and update all the salaries again. EFFFFFFFFFFF
    Im a big fan of the NHL series and have been playing it for a decade now.
    But im not a big hockey fan and really don't know the x's and o's of the game.
    So I would say Im a casual hockey fan who enjoys this series. Mainly because a game takes 15/20 min to play and it's probably the best pickup and play sports videogame out there. So i think EA probably caters the game more for someone like me than your hardcore hockey fan.
    One thing I like about this year is how lively the puck is. Lots of rebounds off the goalie and seems like you always have to be paying attention. I also sort of like the speed of the game too. Maybe it's too fast at times but i think it pairs up well with the lively puck.
    I also like that they finally have solo battles in HUT like FIFA does.
    Last year was the first year I didnt go out and buy 19 even after price drop. Just waited for it to reach the ea access vault. maybe i'll do the same this year but like this game.
    Anyone one knows how to stop the puck from snapping back on to the cpu's stick after a stick checking play? This is one of a few things thats really ruining the game for me. Is there a slider for this?
    sweetjones
    Anyone one knows how to stop the puck from snapping back on to the cpu's stick after a stick checking play? This is one of a few things thats really ruining the game for me. Is there a slider for this?

    Dropping the CPU's puck control should help fix this
    Qb
    After working on a paper until almost midnight, I thought I'd play a game of NHL before bed. Despite having 9 hours left on my trial, I could not access it, but I could play Madden (so I did and it's not for me).
    I tried a quick Google search... And it suggests I follow EA on Twitter for updates. Has anyone had any luck contacting EA or Sony? I still have a lot of writing to do, and it doesn't include going in circles with customer support!
    Thanks

    I'm having the same Issue on the PS4.. I have 9 hours an 1 minute left on my trial but the game is locked... did you get it fixed yet?
    CaptainCaveman
    I'm having the same Issue on the PS4.. I have 9 hours an 1 minute left on my trial but the game is locked... did you get it fixed yet?
    No and further searching only revealed more folks with the same issue. They report EA says to take it up with Sony; Sony says talk to EA. Some seem to think the trial is only active prior to release, but I don't think that's how the Xbox versions work (anyone?).
    I'll be sure to get my $5 worth out of the FIFA20 trial then cancel before I'm billed again.
    Qb
    No and further searching only revealed more folks with the same issue. They report EA says to take it up with Sony; Sony says talk to EA. Some seem to think the trial is only active prior to release, but I don't think that's how the Xbox versions work (anyone?).
    I'll be sure to get my $5 worth out of the FIFA20 trial then cancel before I'm billed again.

    I was curious also as I have just got ea access on the PS4 when madden came out. I thought the problem was on my end. I also have 9 hours or so remaining
    Qb
    No and further searching only revealed more folks with the same issue. They report EA says to take it up with Sony; Sony says talk to EA. Some seem to think the trial is only active prior to release, but I don't think that's how the Xbox versions work (anyone?).
    I'll be sure to get my $5 worth out of the FIFA20 trial then cancel before I'm billed again.

    I only just purchased EA Access on Friday.. played NHL once.. Madden Trial is still working and it was released before i even purchased my EA Access.

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