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NBA 2K21 Roster Update Available Today - Full Details Here (4-22)

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NBA 2K21 Roster Update Available Today - Full Details Here (4-22)

2K has released a new NBA 2K21 roster update today, as the team continues to update the overall ratings for players throughout the season.

Here are some of the biggest movers.

GOING UP

  • R.J. Barrett: 82 OVR (+2)
  • Bogdan Bogdanović: 81 OVR (+2)
  • Reggie Jackson: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Derrick White: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Luguentz Dort: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Duncan Robinson: 77 OVR (+2)
  • Torrey Craig: 77 OVR (+2)
  • Edmond Sumner: 76 OVR (+2)
  • Furkan Korkmaz: 75 OVR (+3)
  • Frank Jackson: 75 OVR (+3)
  • Bryn Forbes: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Jeff Teague: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Taurean Prince: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Trevor Ariza: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Ersan İlyasova: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Reggie Bullock: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Jalen McDaniels: 74 OVR (+4)
  • Cory Joseph: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Yuta Watanabe: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Jevon Carter: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Landry Shamet: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Malachi Flynn: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Naji Marshall: 72 OVR (+4)
  • Vernon Carey Jr.: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Killian Tillie: 69 OVR (+2)
  • Paul Watson: 69 OVR (+2)
  • Armoni Brooks: 69 OVR (+2)

GOING DOWN

  • Kevin Porter Jr.: 75 OVR (-2)
  • Kevon Looney: 75 OVR (-2)
  • Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 74 OVR (-2)
  • Thanasis Antetokounmpo: 73 OVR (-2)
  • Royce O’Neale: 73 OVR (-2)

Check out all of the changes below and let us know what you think. For those of you looking for the changes arranged by team, check out the post from pjt8405.

 

  • Stephen Curry: 97 OVR (+1)
  • Nikola Jokić: 96 OVR (+1)
  • Jimmy Butler: 92 OVR (+1)
  • Paul George: 89 OVR (+1)
  • Julius Randle: 88 OVR (+1)
  • Bam Adebayo: 87 OVR (-1)
  • Jrue Holiday: 86 OVR (-1)
  • C.J. McCollum: 86 OVR (-1)
  • Deandre Ayton: 85 OVR (+1)
  • Jonas Valančiūnas: 84 OVR (+1)
  • R.J. Barrett: 82 OVR (+2)
  • Joe Ingles: 82 OVR (+1)
  • Bogdan Bogdanović: 81 OVR (+2)
  • Jordan Clarkson: 81 OVR (-1)
  • Tyrese Haliburton: 81 OVR (-1)
  • Bobby Portis: 80 OVR (-1)
  • Jalen Brunson: 80 OVR (-1)

  • Reggie Jackson: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Derrick White: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Luguentz Dort: 79 OVR (+2)
  • Nerlens Noel: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Isaiah Stewart: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Kelly Olynyk: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Lauri Markkanen: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Louis Williams: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Derrick Favors: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Tim Hardaway Jr.: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Grayson Allen: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Miles Bridges: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Dennis Schröder: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Saddiq Bey: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Davis Bertans: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Shake Milton: 78 OVR (-1)
  • DeMarcus Cousins: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Tyler Herro: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Rui Hachimura: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Duncan Robinson: 77 OVR (+2)
  • Torrey Craig: 77 OVR (+2)
  • Xavier Tillman: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Kendrick Nunn: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Elfrid Payton: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Ricky Rubio: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Precious Achiuwa: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Blake Griffin: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Doug McDermott: 77 OVR (-1)
  • James Johnson: 77 OVR (-1)
  • Edmond Sumner: 76 OVR (+2)
  • Rajon Rondo: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Tyus Jones: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Taj Gibson: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Talen Horton-Tucker: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Mohamed Bamba: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Goga Bitadze: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Drew Eubanks: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Tomas Satoransky: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Luke Kennard: 76 OVR (-1)
  • James Ennis: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Josh Richardson: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Willie Cauley-Stein: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Nicolas Claxton: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Patrick Mills: 76 OVR (-2)
  • Furkan Korkmaz: 75 OVR (+3)
  • Frank Jackson: 75 OVR (+3)
  • Bryn Forbes: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Jeff Teague: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Taurean Prince: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Trevor Ariza: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Ersan İlyasova: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Reggie Bullock: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Desmond Bane: 75 OVR (+1)
  • John Konchar: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Kevin Huerter: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Cole Anthony: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Juan Toscano: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Seth Curry: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Derrick Jones Jr.: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Kevin Porter Jr.: 75 OVR (-2)
  • Kevon Looney: 75 OVR (-2)
  • Jalen McDaniels: 74 OVR (+4)
  • Cory Joseph: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Yuta Watanabe: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Jevon Carter: 74 OVR (+2)
  • Josh Okogie: 74 OVR (+1)
  • Damion Lee: 74 OVR (+1)
  • Bismack Biyombo: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Kira Lewis Jr.: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Avery Bradley: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Jaden McDaniels: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 74 OVR (-2)
  • Landry Shamet: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Malachi Flynn: 73 OVR (+2)
  • Jordan Nwora: 73 OVR (+1)
  • Maurice Harkless: 73 OVR (+1)
  • Stanley Johnson: 73 OVR (+1)
  • Terence Davis: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Maxi Kleber: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Nicolò Melli: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Thanasis Antetokounmpo: 73 OVR (-2)
  • Royce O’Neale: 73 OVR (-2)
  • Naji Marshall: 72 OVR (+4)
  • Vernon Carey Jr.: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Cody Martin: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Damian Jones: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Sterling Brown: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Garrison Mathews: 72 OVR (-1)
  • Amir Coffey: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Caleb Martin: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Brad Wanamaker: 71 OVR (-1)
  • D.J. Wilson: 71 OVR (-1)
  • Grant Williams: 70 OVR (-1)
  • Killian Tillie: 69 OVR (+2)
  • Paul Watson: 69 OVR (+2)
  • Armoni Brooks: 69 OVR (+2)
  • Tyler Cook: 69 OVR (+1)
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  1. Players with Ratings Overall Change sorted by team
    4/22/21 NBA 2K21 Roster Update
    76ERS
    Shake Milton: 78 OVR (-1)
    Furkan Korkmaz: 75 OVR (+3)
    BUCKS
    Jrue Holiday: 86 OVR (-1)
    Bobby Portis: 80 OVR (-1)
    Bryn Forbes: 75 OVR (+2)
    Jeff Teague: 75 OVR (+2)
    Jordan Nwora: 73 OVR (+1)
    Thanasis Antetokounmpo: 73 OVR (-2)
    BULLS
    Lauri Markkanen: 79 OVR (-1)
    Tomas Satoransky: 76 OVR (-1)
    CAVALIERS
    Taurean Prince: 75 OVR (+2)
    CELTICS
    Grant Williams: 70 OVR (-1)
    CLIPPERS
    Paul George: 89 OVR (+1)
    Reggie Jackson: 79 OVR (+2)
    DeMarcus Cousins: 78 OVR (-1)
    Rajon Rondo: 76 OVR (+1)
    Luke Kennard: 76 OVR (-1)
    Amir Coffey: 71 OVR (-1)
    GRIZZLIES
    Jonas Valančiūnas: 84 OVR (+1)
    Grayson Allen: 78 OVR (+1)
    Xavier Tillman: 77 OVR (+1)
    Tyus Jones: 76 OVR (+1)
    John Konchar: 75 OVR (+1)
    Desmond Bane: 75 OVR (+1)
    Killian Tillie: 69 OVR (+2)
    HAWKS
    Bogdan Bogdanović: 81 OVR (+2)
    Louis Williams: 79 OVR (-1)
    Kevin Huerter: 75 OVR (+1)
    HEAT
    Jimmy Butler: 92 OVR (+1)
    Bam Adebayo: 87 OVR (-1)
    Tyler Herro: 78 OVR (-1)
    Duncan Robinson: 77 OVR (+2)
    Kendrick Nunn: 77 OVR (+1)
    Precious Achiuwa: 77 OVR (-1)
    Trevor Ariza: 75 OVR (+2)
    HORNETS
    Miles Bridges: 78 OVR (+1)
    Jalen McDaniels: 74 OVR (+4)
    Bismack Biyombo: 74 OVR (-1)
    Vernon Carey Jr.: 72 OVR (+2)
    Cody Martin: 72 OVR (-1)
    Caleb Martin: 71 OVR (-1)
    Brad Wanamaker: 71 OVR (-1)
    JAZZ
    Joe Ingles: 82 OVR (+1)
    Jordan Clarkson: 81 OVR (-1)
    Derrick Favors: 79 OVR (-1)
    Ersan İlyasova: 75 OVR (+2)
    Royce O'Neale: 73 OVR (-2)
    KINGS
    Tyrese Haliburton: 81 OVR (-1)
    Terence Davis: 73 OVR (-1)
    Maurice Harkless: 73 OVR (+1)
    Damian Jones: 72 OVR (-1)
    KNICKS
    Julius Randle: 88 OVR (+1)
    R.J. Barrett: 82 OVR (+2)
    Taj Gibson: 76 OVR (+1)
    Reggie Bullock: 75 OVR (+2)
    LAKERS
    Dennis Schröder: 78 OVR (+1)
    Talen Horton-Tucker: 76 OVR (+1)
    Alex Caruso: 73 OVR (-1)
    Ben McLemore: 72 OVR (-1)
    MAGIC
    James Ennis: 76 OVR (-1)
    Mohamed Bamba: 76 OVR (+1)
    Cole Anthony: 75 OVR (+1)
    MAVERICKS
    Luka Doncic: 94 OVR (+1)
    Jalen Brunson: 80 OVR (-1)
    Tim Hardaway Jr.: 79 OVR (-1)
    Josh Richardson: 76 OVR (-1)
    Willie Cauley-Stein: 76 OVR (-1)
    Maxi Kleber: 73 OVR (-1)
    Nicolò Melli: 73 OVR (-1)
    NETS
    Blake Griffin: 77 OVR (-1)
    Nicolas Claxton: 76 OVR (-1)
    Landry Shamet: 73 OVR (+2)
    NUGGETS
    Nikola Jokic: 96 OVR (+1)
    PACERS
    Doug McDermott: 77 OVR (-1)
    Edmond Sumner: 76 OVR (+2)
    Goga Bitadze: 76 OVR (+1)
    PELICANS
    James Johnson: 77 OVR (-1)
    Kira Lewis Jr.: 74 OVR (-1)
    Naji Marshall: 72 OVR (+4)
    PISTONS
    Isaiah Stewart: 79 OVR (+1)
    Saddiq Bey: 78 OVR (+1)
    Frank Jackson: 75 OVR (+3)
    Cory Joseph: 74 OVR (+2)
    Tyler Cook: 69 OVR (+1)
    RAPTORS
    Yuta Watanabe: 74 OVR (+2)
    Malachi Flynn: 73 OVR (+2)
    Stanley Johnson: 73 OVR (+1)
    Paul Watson: 69 OVR (+2)
    ROCKETS
    Kelly Olynyk: 79 OVR (+1)
    Kevin Porter Jr.: 75 OVR (-2)
    Avery Bradley: 74 OVR (-1)
    Sterling Brown: 72 OVR (-1)
    D.J. Wilson: 71 OVR (-1)
    Armoni Brooks: 69 OVR (+2)
    SPURS
    Derrick White: 79 OVR (+2)
    Patrick Mills: 76 OVR (-2)
    Drew Eubanks: 76 OVR (+1)
    SUNS
    DeAndre Ayton 85 OVR (+1)
    Dario Šarić: 79 OVR (+1)
    Torrey Craig: 77 OVR (+2)
    Jevon Carter: 74 OVR (+2)
    THUNDER
    Luguentz Dort: 79 OVR (+2)
    TIMBERWOLVES
    Josh Okogie: 74 OVR (+1)
    Jaden McDaniels: 74 OVR (-1)
    TRAIL BLAZERS
    C.J. McCollum 86 OVR (-1)
    Derrick Jones Jr.: 75 OVR (-1)
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 74 OVR (-2)
    WARRIORS
    Steph Curry: 97 OVR (+1)
    Juan Toscano: 75 OVR (+1)
    Kevon Looney: 75 OVR (-2)
    Damion Lee: 74 OVR (+1)
    WIZARDS
    Rui Hachimura: 78 OVR (-1)
    Davis Bertans: 78 OVR (+1)
    Garrison Mathews: 72 OVR (-1)
    Players who had their position updated in 4/22/21 NBA 2K21 Roster Update
    - Shake Milton - SG/PG - Philadelphia 76ers
    - Daniel Theis - PF/C - Chicago Bulls
    - Thad Young - C/PF - Chicago Bulls
    - Denzel Valentine - SF/SG - Chicago Bulls
    - Reggie Jackson - PG/SG - LA Clippers
    - Terance Mann - SF/SG - LA Clippers
    - Jontay Porter - PF/C - Memphis Grizzlies
    - Jalen McDaniels - SF/PF - Charlotte Hornets -
    - Harrison Barnes - SF/PF - Sacramento Kings
    - Buddy Hield - SG/SF - - Sacramento Kings
    - Maurice Harkless - PF/SF - Sacramento Kings
    - Terence Davis - SF/SG - Sacramento Kings
    - Donta Hall - C/PF - Orlando Magic
    - Blake Griffin - C/PF - Brooklyn Nets
    - Oshea Brissett - Indiana Pacers - PF/SF
    - James Nunnally - SG/SF - New Orleans Pelicans
    - Wayne Ellington - SG/SF - Detroit Psitons
    - Hamidou Diallo - SF/SG - Detroit Pistons
    - OG Anunoby - SF/PF - Toronto Raptors
    - Pascal Siakam - PF/C - Toronto Raptors
    - Gary Trent Jr - SG/SF - Toronto Raptors
    - Yuta Watanabe - SF/PF - Toronto Raptors
    - Paul Watson - SF/SG - Toronto Raptors
    - Jae'Sean Tate - SF/PF - Houston Rockets
    - Keita Bates-Diop - SF/PF - San Antonio Spurs
    - Jaylen Hoard - PF/SF - Oklahoma City Thunder
    - Kelly Oubre Jr - SF/SG - Golden State Warriors
    - Kent Bazemore - SG/SF -
    - Alen Smailagic - Golden State Warriors
    - Jordan Bell - PF/C - Washington Wizards
    pjt8405
    Players with Ratings Overall Change sorted by team
    4/22/21 NBA 2K21 Roster Update
    76ERS
    Shake Milton: 78 OVR (-1)
    Furkan Korkmaz: 75 OVR (+3)
    BUCKS
    Jrue Holiday: 86 OVR (-1)
    Bobby Portis: 80 OVR (-1)
    Bryn Forbes: 75 OVR (+2)
    Jeff Teague: 75 OVR (+2)
    Jordan Nwora: 73 OVR (+1)
    Thanasis Antetokounmpo: 73 OVR (-2)
    BULLS
    Lauri Markkanen: 79 OVR (-1)
    Tomas Satoransky: 76 OVR (-1)
    CAVALIERS
    Taurean Prince: 75 OVR (+2)
    CELTICS
    Grant Williams: 70 OVR (-1)
    CLIPPERS
    Paul George: 89 OVR (+1)
    Reggie Jackson: 79 OVR (+2)
    DeMarcus Cousins: 78 OVR (-1)
    Rajon Rondo: 76 OVR (+1)
    Luke Kennard: 76 OVR (-1)
    Amir Coffey: 71 OVR (-1)
    GRIZZLIES
    Jonas Valančiūnas: 84 OVR (+1)
    Grayson Allen: 78 OVR (+1)
    Xavier Tillman: 77 OVR (+1)
    Tyus Jones: 76 OVR (+1)
    John Konchar: 75 OVR (+1)
    Desmond Bane: 75 OVR (+1)
    Killian Tillie: 69 OVR (+2)
    HAWKS
    Bogdan Bogdanović: 81 OVR (+2)
    Louis Williams: 79 OVR (-1)
    Kevin Huerter: 75 OVR (+1)
    HEAT
    Jimmy Butler: 92 OVR (+1)
    Bam Adebayo: 87 OVR (-1)
    Tyler Herro: 78 OVR (-1)
    Duncan Robinson: 77 OVR (+2)
    Kendrick Nunn: 77 OVR (+1)
    Precious Achiuwa: 77 OVR (-1)
    Trevor Ariza: 75 OVR (+2)
    HORNETS
    Miles Bridges: 78 OVR (+1)
    Jalen McDaniels: 74 OVR (+4)
    Bismack Biyombo: 74 OVR (-1)
    Vernon Carey Jr.: 72 OVR (+2)
    Cody Martin: 72 OVR (-1)
    Caleb Martin: 71 OVR (-1)
    Brad Wanamaker: 71 OVR (-1)
    JAZZ
    Joe Ingles: 82 OVR (+1)
    Jordan Clarkson: 81 OVR (-1)
    Derrick Favors: 79 OVR (-1)
    Ersan İlyasova: 75 OVR (+2)
    Royce O'Neale: 73 OVR (-2)
    KINGS
    Tyrese Haliburton: 81 OVR (-1)
    Terence Davis: 73 OVR (-1)
    Maurice Harkless: 73 OVR (+1)
    Damian Jones: 72 OVR (-1)
    KNICKS
    Julius Randle: 88 OVR (+1)
    R.J. Barrett: 82 OVR (+2)
    Taj Gibson: 76 OVR (+1)
    Reggie Bullock: 75 OVR (+2)
    LAKERS
    Dennis Schröder: 78 OVR (+1)
    Talen Horton-Tucker: 76 OVR (+1)
    Alex Caruso: 73 OVR (-1)
    Ben McLemore: 72 OVR (-1)
    MAGIC
    James Ennis: 76 OVR (-1)
    Mohamed Bamba: 76 OVR (+1)
    Cole Anthony: 75 OVR (+1)
    MAVERICKS
    Luka Doncic: 94 OVR (+1)
    Jalen Brunson: 80 OVR (-1)
    Tim Hardaway Jr.: 79 OVR (-1)
    Josh Richardson: 76 OVR (-1)
    Willie Cauley-Stein: 76 OVR (-1)
    Maxi Kleber: 73 OVR (-1)
    Nicolò Melli: 73 OVR (-1)
    NETS
    Blake Griffin: 77 OVR (-1)
    Nicolas Claxton: 76 OVR (-1)
    Landry Shamet: 73 OVR (+2)
    NUGGETS
    Nikola Jokic: 96 OVR (+1)
    PACERS
    Doug McDermott: 77 OVR (-1)
    Edmond Sumner: 76 OVR (+2)
    Goga Bitadze: 76 OVR (+1)
    PELICANS
    James Johnson: 77 OVR (-1)
    Kira Lewis Jr.: 74 OVR (-1)
    Naji Marshall: 72 OVR (+4)
    PISTONS
    Isaiah Stewart: 79 OVR (+1)
    Saddiq Bey: 78 OVR (+1)
    Frank Jackson: 75 OVR (+3)
    Cory Joseph: 74 OVR (+2)
    Tyler Cook: 69 OVR (+1)
    RAPTORS
    Yuta Watanabe: 74 OVR (+2)
    Malachi Flynn: 73 OVR (+2)
    Stanley Johnson: 73 OVR (+1)
    Paul Watson: 69 OVR (+2)
    ROCKETS
    Kelly Olynyk: 79 OVR (+1)
    Kevin Porter Jr.: 75 OVR (-2)
    Avery Bradley: 74 OVR (-1)
    Sterling Brown: 72 OVR (-1)
    D.J. Wilson: 71 OVR (-1)
    Armoni Brooks: 69 OVR (+2)
    SPURS
    Derrick White: 79 OVR (+2)
    Patrick Mills: 76 OVR (-2)
    Drew Eubanks: 76 OVR (+1)
    SUNS
    DeAndre Ayton 85 OVR (+1)
    Dario Šarić: 79 OVR (+1)
    Torrey Craig: 77 OVR (+2)
    Jevon Carter: 74 OVR (+2)
    THUNDER
    Luguentz Dort: 79 OVR (+2)
    TIMBERWOLVES
    Josh Okogie: 74 OVR (+1)
    Jaden McDaniels: 74 OVR (-1)
    TRAIL BLAZERS
    C.J. McCollum 86 OVR (-1)
    Derrick Jones Jr.: 75 OVR (-1)
    Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 74 OVR (-2)
    WARRIORS
    Steph Curry: 97 OVR (+1)
    Juan Toscano: 75 OVR (+1)
    Kevon Looney: 75 OVR (-2)
    Damion Lee: 74 OVR (+1)
    WIZARDS
    Rui Hachimura: 78 OVR (-1)
    Davis Bertans: 78 OVR (+1)
    Garrison Mathews: 72 OVR (-1)
    Players who had their position updated in 4/22/21 NBA 2K21 Roster Update
    - Shake Milton - SG/PG - Philadelphia 76ers
    - Daniel Theis - PF/C - Chicago Bulls
    - Thad Young - C/PF - Chicago Bulls
    - Denzel Valentine - SF/SG - Chicago Bulls
    - Reggie Jackson - PG/SG - LA Clippers
    - Terance Mann - SF/SG - LA Clippers
    - Jontay Porter - PF/C - Memphis Grizzlies
    - Jalen McDaniels - SF/PF - Charlotte Hornets -
    - Harrison Barnes - SF/PF - Sacramento Kings
    - Buddy Hield - SG/SF - - Sacramento Kings
    - Maurice Harkless - PF/SF - Sacramento Kings
    - Terence Davis - SF/SG - Sacramento Kings
    - Donta Hall - C/PF - Orlando Magic
    - Blake Griffin - C/PF - Brooklyn Nets
    - Oshea Brissett - Indiana Pacers - PF/SF
    - James Nunnally - SG/SF - New Orleans Pelicans
    - Wayne Ellington - SG/SF - Detroit Psitons
    - Hamidou Diallo - SF/SG - Detroit Pistons
    - OG Anunoby - SF/PF - Toronto Raptors
    - Pascal Siakam - PF/C - Toronto Raptors
    - Gary Trent Jr - SG/SF - Toronto Raptors
    - Yuta Watanabe - SF/PF - Toronto Raptors
    - Paul Watson - SF/SG - Toronto Raptors
    - Jae'Sean Tate - SF/PF - Houston Rockets
    - Keita Bates-Diop - SF/PF - San Antonio Spurs
    - Jaylen Hoard - PF/SF - Oklahoma City Thunder
    - Kelly Oubre Jr - SF/SG - Golden State Warriors
    - Kent Bazemore - SG/SF -
    - Alen Smailagic - Golden State Warriors
    - Jordan Bell - PF/C - Washington Wizards

    Appreciate what you did, but...who are you? What's your credentials, lol?
    ksuttonjr76
    Appreciate what you did, but...who are you? What's your credentials, lol?

    I've been an avid 2K gamer since the original 2K. I've also helped 2K in the past with a few things
    I can be found on Twitter (@PTSports84) as I often give feedback etc there whenever I do not post here
    I've released a few personal roster projects over the past 10+ years for various platforms.
    I just wanted to provide the info so that anyone wanting to sort the changes easier can do so.The Real2KInsider has been busy with a full workload, so since I was off today and knew he likely wouldn't have time to post the changes, I thought I would.
    pjt8405
    I've been an avid 2K gamer since the original 2K. I've also helped 2K in the past with a few things
    I can be found on Twitter (@PTSports84) as I often give feedback etc there whenever I do not post here
    I've released a few personal roster projects over the past 10+ years for various platforms.
    I just wanted to provide the info so that anyone wanting to sort the changes easier can do so.The Real2KInsider has been busy with a full workload, so since I was off today and knew he likely wouldn't have time to post the changes, I thought I would.

    Much appreciated! Do you keep a spreadsheet or is this stuff in a db somewhere?
    Don Jon
    Much appreciated! Do you keep a spreadsheet or is this stuff in a db somewhere?

    I keep a personal spreadsheet of roster info but nothing in regards to the overall ratings etc. I'm more into Tendency edits etc than ratings as I feel like the Real2KInsider has that area covered well already. All I did was sort the changes from 2K's list, as it was simply re-sorting the info in a better way.
    I also like to dive deep into the retro and all-time rosters and have previous threads noting feedback for them as well. I'm not new to the forums by any means, I just saw an opportunity to share the info since the Real2KInsider was working and may not have had time to share the info like he usually does
    Wow, I'm continuously amazed at how generous they are with player ratings today.
    I like the old rating system much better - SEE MY ROSTER BELOW if you're looking for something similar!
    I wouldn’t have a clue what his rating is but is it possible to give Miles Bridges a 100 dunk rating? That man is putting everyone on a poster this year 😂
    ksuttonjr76
    Appreciate what you did, but...who are you? What's your credentials, lol?

    I'm pretty sure you know Pete and that this is tongue in cheek. But in case you don't:
    zten11
    Wow, I'm continuously amazed at how generous they are with player ratings today.

    It's because player production is through the roof in today's NBA.
    Chris Bosh averaged 24 PPG (9th) in his career year (2010). That would rank 20th in today's NBA.
    I like the old rating system much better

    I understand this was a plug, but nothing substantial has actually changed with their system over the last decade.
    Well their ovr calculation has definitely changed resulting in more high 70/low 80 rated players.
    i remember back in the Day that i was proud one season to only have 70+ rated players in my rotation.
    one of the conf. Finals Pacers Teams in the early 2010s Featured only one Single 80+ Player (Danny granger with 84).
    i once did a lookup using our league roster database going back to nba 2k15 and you saw that the number of top rated players basically stayed the same. but instead of having rotation players Cover the range from 68 to roughly 80 you now have them from 76 to 82.
    jk31
    Well their ovr calculation has definitely changed resulting in more high 70/low 80 rated players.

    The only thing that has really changed with the calculation is badges counting towards OVR.
    Player production is what has changed drastically. Every team has a high-usage star now - this was not the case 10 years ago. The blueprint right now league-wide is maximize spacing around a star.
    one of the conf. Finals Pacers Teams in the early 2010s Featured only one Single 80+ Player (Danny granger with 84).

    That Pacers team (a 90s throwback) is a prime example of how much the league has changed. The 2012 Pacers were going against the grain then, and there is no comparable team stylistically in the present.
    Quick production summary
    Hibbert: 19.3 PER, 54 TS% on 21 USG%
    West: 17.8 PER, 53 TS% on 21 USG%
    Granger: 18.6 PER, 56 TS% on 26 USG%
    George: 16.5 PER, 56 TS% on 19 USG%
    Collison: 13.6 PER, 53 TS% on 17 USG%
    This was a very balanced team with no clear star. Granger ranked 28th in the NBA in Usage rate that year (between David Lee and Brandon Jennings). Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough, and West ranked 80-82 respectively.
    In today's NBA, Granger would have ranked 40th in Usage. Yet Hibbert & West would still be 80th. Usage is up at the top end. There are more "stars" today than there ever have been at any point in NBA history.
    Why does Kyrie have a lower speed rating with and without the ball than James Harden? Kyrie has an 85 while James is an 89. Also Kyrie has a lower post offense rating than Harden, even though Harden almost never operates there and Kyrie goes there multiple times per game.
    Kyrie is ranked lower than he was in Boston even though he is having a career year in everything besides 3pt% and apg (James Harden). In the games Harden hasn't played Kyrie is racking up a ton of assists while winning. Damian Lillard being ranked way ahead of him like they aren't comparable players is laughable to me.
    Crossover1
    Also Kyrie has a lower post offense rating than Harden, even though Harden almost never operates there and Kyrie goes there multiple times per game.

    Per NBA tracking data:
    Kyrie: 21 Post Ups in 45 games
    Harden: 19 Post Ups in 42 games
    This is not multiple times per game, nor is it a significantly greater rate than Harden
    Real2KInsider
    The only thing that has really changed with the calculation is badges counting towards OVR.
    Player production is what has changed drastically. Every team has a high-usage star now - this was not the case 10 years ago. The blueprint right now league-wide is maximize spacing around a star.
    That Pacers team (a 90s throwback) is a prime example of how much the league has changed. The 2012 Pacers were going against the grain then, and there is no comparable team stylistically in the present.
    Quick production summary
    Hibbert: 19.3 PER, 54 TS% on 21 USG%
    West: 17.8 PER, 53 TS% on 21 USG%
    Granger: 18.6 PER, 56 TS% on 26 USG%
    George: 16.5 PER, 56 TS% on 19 USG%
    Collison: 13.6 PER, 53 TS% on 17 USG%
    This was a very balanced team with no clear star. Granger ranked 28th in the NBA in Usage rate that year (between David Lee and Brandon Jennings). Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough, and West ranked 80-82 respectively.
    In today's NBA, Granger would have ranked 40th in Usage. Yet Hibbert & West would still be 80th. Usage is up at the top end. There are more "stars" today than there ever have been at any point in NBA history.

    Still the OVR range shifted from like 68 to 80/81 for non-Allstars but rotation players to sth like 75/76 to 82. We had to change up our league rules as we tie minimum player salarys to their OVR since years. We usually had a first free agency signing period for years where everyone 75 and below was available for offers. After that period a second signing session was the main part with everyone above 75. 5 years back in NBA 2k16 we had 59 players that were free agents with a rating between 76 and 83. During our first offseason of 2k21, the same range (76+ and below max salary range which is roughly 84) covered 95 players which basically wouldve increased the duration of our signing session to nearly twice the time, haven't we changed our ruleset so that the first sessions for the "bad" players covers a bigger OVR range.
    Real2KInsider
    Per NBA tracking data:
    Kyrie: 21 Post Ups in 45 games
    Harden: 19 Post Ups in 42 games
    This is not multiple times per game, nor is it a significantly greater rate than Harden

    I guess I don't know what post ups mean then. I'm assuming the stat guys credit him for isolation possessions instead of post ups.
    He almost always has at least one post entry pass received per game, but then he'll face the guy in a triple threat position many times. Then there are times he will drive from the 3 point line then turn his back to the basket before attempting a fadeaway or hook shots near or in the paint.
    Crossover1
    I guess I don't know what post ups mean then. I'm assuming the stat guys credit him for isolation possessions instead of post ups.
    He almost always has at least one post entry pass received per game, but then he'll face the guy in a triple threat position many times. Then there are times he will drive from the 3 point line then turn his back to the basket before attempting a fadeaway or hook shots near or in the paint.

    Yeah, I wouldn't consider those post-ups. When I think of post-ups, I think of a player who's attempting to score in the low-post off a backdown, hook, or fadeaway. Could be position bias too, since PGs of his size are never considered to be "post-up" players.
    ksuttonjr76
    Yeah, I wouldn't consider those post-ups. When I think of post-ups, I think of a player who's attempting to score in the low-post off a backdown, hook, or fadeaway. Could be position bias too, since PGs of his size are never considered to be "post-up" players.

    Honestly I think this is exactly what it is. He doesn't always start out receiving the ball in the low or high post but sometimes he does. His game is all over the place so I can see how they will categorize them as isolations, but I promise you he regularly turns his back to opponents and scores from hooks or fadeaways. Even the commentators from a recent game was talking about this.
    jk31
    Still the OVR range shifted from like 68 to 80/81 for non-Allstars but rotation players to sth like 75/76 to 82

    2K13 Ratings (just before a new roster editor was hired):
    http://thereal2kinsider.blogspot.com/2012/09/official-nba-2k13-ratings.html
    The scale was cleaned up to get rid of the 50-70 players who were all laughably underrated. There isn't 10 points of separation between 2nd strings and 3rd strings IRL. The old scale caused MAJOR issues w/ rotations, trades, signings, contracts, etc. Depth charts are much more fluid IRL, teams don't fall apart when a 3rd string gets 20 minutes.
    A few highlights from the old system:
    76 - Terrence Williams (7/3/2 - the 21st ranked SF - his NBA career lasted 24 more games)
    71 - Danilo Gallinari (15/5/3)
    68 - Royce White (16th overall pick)
    65 - Marvin Williams (10/5 in his 6th consecutive season as a starter)
    59 - Andre Drummond (9th overall pick)
    59 - Jonas Valanciunas (5th overall pick)
    53 - Steve Novak (9 ppg, league leading 3pt%)
    Crossover1
    Honestly I think this is exactly what it is. He doesn't always start out receiving the ball in the low or high post but sometimes he does. His game is all over the place so I can see how they will categorize them as isolations

    IIRC a post possession is classified as one where the player caught the ball in post position (i.e. back to the basket), or the scoring attempt was initiated BTB.
    The NBA is not logging guards any differently in tracking data. Jrue Holiday has double the Postups (43), while Russell Westbrook has 4x as many (95). Kyrie's post touches are pretty consistent on a year-to-year basis; he is not posting up any more than usual w/ the Nets.
    2021: 21 in 1585 mins (0.47 per 36)
    2020: 6 in 658 (0.32)
    2019: 50 in 2214 (0.81)
    2018: 31 in 1834 (0.60)
    2017: 66 in 2525 (0.85)

    2016: 18 in 1667 (0.38)
    2015: 31 in 2687 (0.41)
    2014: 47 in 2496 (0.67)
    Kyrie is actually posting up less as a Net than he did as a Celtic.
    but I promise you he regularly turns his back to opponents and scores from hooks or fadeaways. Even the commentators from a recent game was talking about this.

    Kyrie is 0-1 on Hook Shots this season.
    ksuttonjr76
    Could be position bias too, since PGs of his size are never considered to be "post-up" players.

    This is just speculation/conjecture. The tracking data is available.
    Postups, Starting Point Guards:
    Ben Simmons: 138 in 1619 minutes (3.06 per 36)
    Russell Westbrook: 95 in 1930 (1.77)
    Luka Doncic: 74 in 1936 (1.37)
    Jrue Holiday: 43 in 1532 (1.01)
    Jamal Murray: 23 in 1704 (0.48)
    Ja Morant: 22 in 1671 (0.47)
    Kyrie Irving: 21 in 1585 (0.47)
    Damian Lillard: 21 in 1978 (0.38)
    Chris Paul: 17 in 1906 (0.32)
    Elfrid Payton: 10 in 1328 (0.27)
    Lonzo Ball: 9 in 1469 (0.22)
    Michael Carter-Williams: 4 in 800 (0.18)
    Coby White: 8 in 1785 (0.16)
    Stephen Curry: 7 in 1808 (0.13)
    John Wall: 5 in 1288 (0.13)
    DeAaron Fox: 6 in 2036 (0.10)
    Kendrick Nunn: 4 in 1362 (0.10)
    Malcolm Brogdon: 4 in 1890 (0.07)
    Kyle Lowry: 3 in 1490 (0.07)
    Darius Garland: 3 in 1719 (0.06)
    LaMelo Ball: 2 in 1174 (0.06)
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander: 2 in 1180 (0.06)
    Cory Joseph: 2 in 1361 (0.05)
    Mike Conley: 2 in 1459 (0.04)
    Dejounte Murray: 2 in 1814 (0.03)
    Ricky Rubio: 1 in 1514 (0.02)
    Trae Young: 1 in 1849 (0.01)
    Patrick Beverley: 0 in 726 (0.00)
    Kemba Walker: 0 in 1227 (0.00)
    Dennis Schroder: 0 in 1829 (0.00)
    Kyrie ranks 7th in frequency among starting PGs.

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