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NBA 2K21 Graphics Comparison (4K Ultra HD) - PS4 Pro Vs. PS5 W/ HDR and No HDR

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NBA 2K21 Graphics Comparison (4K Ultra HD) - PS4 Pro Vs. PS5 W/ HDR and No HDR

Well it took about a whole day of processing on YouTube, but our 4K Ultra HD next-gen NBA 2K21 graphics comparison is now live. We show off NBA 2K21 in three different ways, and do a little example of HDR color correction as well.

So in the video, you can see how NBA 2K21 looks on the PS4 Pro, and then you can see how NBA 2K21 looks on PS5 with the HDR on and then with the HDR off. Right now, the PS5 only allows you to have one base HDR setting that you tweak in the menu of the console. This might not be the best solution for every game as some like NBA 2K21 could also stand to have their own game-specific setting to better tweak how 2K looks.

On top of that, some just feel NBA 2K21 looks better with HDR off. I somewhat agree with that assessment, but I show off how the visuals look side by side in a more “perfect” setting to at least show off a comparison that is about as true as it’s going to get.

Let me know which version you think looks best. Also be sure to actually set the YouTube resolution to 4K so you can see all the details.

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  1. I felt this video might be especially helpful since I know some peeps felt in general the game might even look better with HDR off vs. on, so I showed off both in that environment and also did a color correct to show how HDR probably might look just as good but just might need a game-specific setting to refine it.
    ChaseB
    I felt this video might be especially helpful since I know some peeps felt in general the game might even look better with HDR off vs. on, so I showed off both in that environment and also did a color correct to show how HDR probably might look just as good but just might need a game-specific setting to refine it.

    Nice video.
    Was wondering what you did for that color correct, because the HDR image without it reminds me of how No Man's Sky looks to me right now - everything getting drowned in light (at least during the daytime). Kinda new to HDR in general since I just got a monitor that supports it within the past 2 months.
    RayRay34
    Is this just the current gen edition of 2k21 on the PS5 or is this the next gen edition of 2k21 on the PS5 vs the current gen on PS4?*

    That PS4 footage is captured from the PS4 Pro and is the current-gen version. Then the PS5 footage is all next-gen.
    bcruise
    Nice video.
    Was wondering what you did for that color correct, because the HDR image without it reminds me of how No Man's Sky looks to me right now - everything getting drowned in light (at least during the daytime). Kinda new to HDR in general since I just got a monitor that supports it within the past 2 months.

    Are you on the PS5 with No Man's Sky now or playing on PC? My recommendation if you're on PS5 is perhaps just make the whites a little darker in that HDR settings panel of your PS5 -- assuming you don't want to tweak your monitor or TV much. I also think the recordings can make the game look a little worse than it really is. On my TV for example, 2K did not look that washed out/overexposed (due to my TV calibration), but the recording amplified it further.
    ChaseB
    Are you on the PS5 with No Man's Sky now or playing on PC? My recommendation if you're on PS5 is perhaps just make the whites a little darker in that HDR settings panel of your PS5 -- assuming you don't want to tweak your monitor or TV much. I also think the recordings can make the game look a little worse than it really is. On my TV for example, 2K did not look that washed out/overexposed (due to my TV calibration), but the recording amplified it further.

    Yeah, on PS5 with the actual PS5 version of NMS. Thanks for the suggestion.
    ChaseB
    I felt this video might be especially helpful since I know some peeps felt in general the game might even look better with HDR off vs. on, so I showed off both in that environment and also did a color correct to show how HDR probably might look just as good but just might need a game-specific setting to refine it.

    the hdr calibration on xbox at least is whack. I did it and had to revert back doing the opposite of the instructions. HDR should have shadow DETAIL and highlight DETAIL, while not being flat. It simply offers a full spectrum previously unavailable.
    The problem is the xbox calibration literally causes you to force the TV to crush blacks (zero dark detail) and blow out highlights (zero highlight detail). My VIZIO P65 performed perfectly 'out of the box' but curiosity got the best of me and I tuned it according to instructions with disastrous results.
    Adding to the issue is that just because a full HDR spectrum has so much possibility, doesn't mean an NBA arena provides that. In other words, highlights aren't as bright as the sun and shadows void of light. Most pro sports arenas MINIMIZE dynamic range so everyone can see everything that's going on constantly. My feeling is that tuning it caused it to bring out those extremes where no exist.
    So I kept my personal settings and reverted the internal xbox calibration as best I could to the way it was before.
    The moral of the story is - whatever TV you have, create the settings that you like (HDR or not) and the only thing you should change is to activate game mode or not. Also check if your TV's game mode deactivates HDR or not. But the picture you like should work across all mediums and not just movies OR games.
    IF your games look weird - does the startup menu look weird too? I'm noticing people with different TV's are having different experiences in next gen pretty drastically. I"m one of the lucky ones who had a perfect experience out of the box I guess...but either way, you shouldn't have to tailor anything to any one game OR system imo.
    HDR shouldn't dramatically do anything to 2k21 (like blowing out the entire court) for example - it's also super hard to SHOW this stuff because you're likely not watching on an HDR monitor and perhaps it doesn't translate to a youtube video either.
    Either way I appreciate the video, but it brings up a bigger issue which is total consumer confusion on the matter.
    I also think part of the HDR issue for 2K is just a 2K thing a teeny bit. Like, this is not new to 2K this year, but the reds can still come off looking a little too pink at times etc. 2K I feel like gets some colors just slightly off on jerseys and such for whatever reason that goes beyond tech/TVs/HDR.
    bcruise
    Nice video.
    Was wondering what you did for that color correct, because the HDR image without it reminds me of how No Man's Sky looks to me right now - everything getting drowned in light (at least during the daytime). Kinda new to HDR in general since I just got a monitor that supports it within the past 2 months.

    I don't where I heard this, but I thought I watched a video where it stated the PS5 was "intended" to be played on 4KTVs versus computer monitors.
    allBthere
    the hdr calibration on xbox at least is whack. I did it and had to revert back doing the opposite of the instructions. HDR should have shadow DETAIL and highlight DETAIL, while not being flat. It simply offers a full spectrum previously unavailable.
    The problem is the xbox calibration literally causes you to force the TV to crush blacks (zero dark detail) and blow out highlights (zero highlight detail). My VIZIO P65 performed perfectly 'out of the box' but curiosity got the best of me and I tuned it according to instructions with disastrous results.
    Adding to the issue is that just because a full HDR spectrum has so much possibility, doesn't mean an NBA arena provides that. In other words, highlights aren't as bright as the sun and shadows void of light. Most pro sports arenas MINIMIZE dynamic range so everyone can see everything that's going on constantly. My feeling is that tuning it caused it to bring out those extremes where no exist.
    So I kept my personal settings and reverted the internal xbox calibration as best I could to the way it was before.
    The moral of the story is - whatever TV you have, create the settings that you like (HDR or not) and the only thing you should change is to activate game mode or not. Also check if your TV's game mode deactivates HDR or not. But the picture you like should work across all mediums and not just movies OR games.
    IF your games look weird - does the startup menu look weird too? I'm noticing people with different TV's are having different experiences in next gen pretty drastically. I"m one of the lucky ones who had a perfect experience out of the box I guess...but either way, you shouldn't have to tailor anything to any one game OR system imo.
    HDR shouldn't dramatically do anything to 2k21 (like blowing out the entire court) for example - it's also super hard to SHOW this stuff because you're likely not watching on an HDR monitor and perhaps it doesn't translate to a youtube video either.
    Either way I appreciate the video, but it brings up a bigger issue which is total consumer confusion on the matter.

    Yeah this generation is the first since the start of next-gen with PS3/Xbox 360 where I think consumers are both confused but also excited interested in tech again. It's now HDR and frame rates rather than just 720p vs. 1080p but that comes with confusion as well. I enjoy chatting about the tech and stuff so I like it, but I can get why peeps will be aggravated and confused.
    And that's all interesting to know with the Xbox since I don't have one and am not sure when I will.
    Again, for me, I'm good with 2K and HDR on since my stuff is calibrated correctly/or at least how I like it. My example in the video was to show off how the HDR can quickly get out of hand and I color corrected to just show that it's not actually THAT bad, you just probably need to tweak a setting or two either on your TV or the console (at least the PS5) to avoid the wash out. But I still think a game-specific setting for 2K vs. MLB The Show or whatever would be helpful since not every game is doing the same things with HDR like you said.
    ksuttonjr76
    I don't where I heard this, but I thought I watched a video where it stated the PS5 was "intended" to be played on 4KTVs versus computer monitors.

    Hmmmm I don't think that should really matter since resolution and refresh rates and whatever else should mostly translate between TVs and monitors. I mean there's 4K monitors and so on.
    allBthere
    the hdr calibration on xbox at least is whack. I did it and had to revert back doing the opposite of the instructions. HDR should have shadow DETAIL and highlight DETAIL, while not being flat. It simply offers a full spectrum previously unavailable.
    The problem is the xbox calibration literally causes you to force the TV to crush blacks (zero dark detail) and blow out highlights (zero highlight detail). My VIZIO P65 performed perfectly 'out of the box' but curiosity got the best of me and I tuned it according to instructions with disastrous results.
    Adding to the issue is that just because a full HDR spectrum has so much possibility, doesn't mean an NBA arena provides that. In other words, highlights aren't as bright as the sun and shadows void of light. Most pro sports arenas MINIMIZE dynamic range so everyone can see everything that's going on constantly. My feeling is that tuning it caused it to bring out those extremes where no exist.
    So I kept my personal settings and reverted the internal xbox calibration as best I could to the way it was before.
    The moral of the story is - whatever TV you have, create the settings that you like (HDR or not) and the only thing you should change is to activate game mode or not. Also check if your TV's game mode deactivates HDR or not. But the picture you like should work across all mediums and not just movies OR games.
    IF your games look weird - does the startup menu look weird too? I'm noticing people with different TV's are having different experiences in next gen pretty drastically. I"m one of the lucky ones who had a perfect experience out of the box I guess...but either way, you shouldn't have to tailor anything to any one game OR system imo.
    HDR shouldn't dramatically do anything to 2k21 (like blowing out the entire court) for example - it's also super hard to SHOW this stuff because you're likely not watching on an HDR monitor and perhaps it doesn't translate to a youtube video either.
    Either way I appreciate the video, but it brings up a bigger issue which is total consumer confusion on the matter.

    To me, the simplest solution is just change the settings according to what you want to see. I'll never understand this belief that everything has to be "perfect" out of the box. Anytime I buy a new electronic device the FIRST thing that I'm doing is tweaking the settings to my personal preference. I don't see how anyone can merely plug in or begin using their new device without making changes to their device. In my eyes, there's no such thing as universal settings.
    ksuttonjr76
    To me, the simplest solution is just change the settings according to what you want to see. I'll never understand this belief that everything has to be "perfect" out of the box. Anytime I buy a new electronic device the FIRST thing that I'm doing is tweaking the settings to my personal preference. I don't see how anyone can merely plug in or begin using their new device without making changes to their device. In my eyes, there's no such thing as universal settings.

    Yeah I agree with this. But one point that was being made on some level though is 2K and basketball are going to try and mute things in a way where maybe you overcompensate too much to make 2K look a certain way, but then you play another game and it looks weird now etc. because HDR works in such a way where it might be tricky to find a one-size-fits-all approach for every game.
    ChaseB
    Yeah I agree with this. But one point that was being made on some level though is 2K and basketball are going to try and mute things in a way where maybe you overcompensate too much to make 2K look a certain way, but then you play another game and it looks weird now etc. because HDR works in such a way where it might be tricky to find a one-size-fits-all approach for every game.

    I guess for me, I'm not into "vibrant" colors. I prefer my games closer to "dark" then "light" if that makes sense. It gets my goat when people have games like Doom, Resident Evil:Biohazard, Outlast, etc on high brightest where they can see everything. I have my settings close to dark, but I can still see the details of the environment, but I feel immersed when I play those games in the dark with my headphones. I want my heart to race when I play those games. Another example, I love using the "Cinema" mode on my TV, because I think it makes that movies I watch more realistic. My girlfriend absolutely hates the mode, because she thinks it makes the colors too dull.
    ksuttonjr76
    To me, the simplest solution is just change the settings according to what you want to see. I'll never understand this belief that everything has to be "perfect" out of the box. Anytime I buy a new electronic device the FIRST thing that I'm doing is tweaking the settings to my personal preference. I don't see how anyone can merely plug in or begin using their new device without making changes to their device. In my eyes, there's no such thing as universal settings.

    **had to add, I didn't really say what you're saying I said - I don't think things would be perfect out of the box and not to change anything, I'm saying if things are to your liking or calibrated correctly that it should work across the board - you should never had to change TV settings drastically from one game to the next on the same system
    I think that's exactly how it SHOULD work. I'm in film/tv and shoot all the time. When I shoot, I record LOG format which is a flat profile which is then colour graded and finished. It's the same thing with HDR and games... you are either 'exporting' to a REC.709 standard colour/contrast space or wide gamut 2020 spec for example.
    Those standards exist for a reason and that would mean that my export of an 90% exposed image would be 90% exposed on your calibrated monitor.
    So if one games looks perfect (in my case NBA 2k21 did out of the box), other games should too as they are all working in the same defined limitations.
    Sure you have room for personal preference as well as the rare 'outlier' (think the dark game of thrones episode), but overall a good image should translate time and time again using the same device. Different games shouldn't have to alter picture settings unless something weird is going on.
    In this case, something weird IS going on between living rooms, but there shouldn't be a massive shift in image quality BETWEEN games in the same living room if they are both HDR 4k optimized games.
    allBthere
    I think that's exactly how it SHOULD work. I'm in film/tv and shoot all the time. When I shoot, I record LOG format which is a flat profile which is then colour graded and finished. It's the same thing with HDR and games... you are either 'exporting' to a REC.709 standard colour/contrast space or wide gamut 2020 spec for example.
    Those standards exist for a reason and that would mean that my export of an 90% exposed image would be 90% exposed on your calibrated monitor.
    So if one games looks perfect (in my case NBA 2k21 did out of the box), other games should too as they are all working in the same defined limitations.
    Sure you have room for personal preference as well as the rare 'outlier' (think the dark game of thrones episode), but overall a good image should translate time and time again using the same device. Different games shouldn't have to alter picture settings unless something weird is going on.
    In this case, something weird IS going on between living rooms, but there shouldn't be a massive shift in image quality BETWEEN games in the same living room if they are both HDR 4k optimized games.

    Oh no. I meant universal TV settings out of the box. No, I agree with you. If I tweak my settings for one game, than those settings should be "universal" for my other games. I might make some slight tweaks to the in-game settings, but TV settings are definitely set at the moment.
    This just shows current gen and last gen is the same game just one with and without HDR . Graphically that is, gameplay looks the same too . Too bad you didn’t record this with a Series X , the Auto HDR would’ve made them identical 🤦🏿🤦🏿
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    DayshawnDaBeast
    This just shows current gen and last gen is the same game just one with and without HDR . Graphically that is, gameplay looks the same too . Too bad you didn’t record this with a Series X , the Auto HDR would’ve made them identical 🤦🏿🤦🏿
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    You think the PS4 version looks the same as the PS5 version!? Fair enough.
    allBthere
    I think that's exactly how it SHOULD work. I'm in film/tv and shoot all the time. When I shoot, I record LOG format which is a flat profile which is then colour graded and finished. It's the same thing with HDR and games... you are either 'exporting' to a REC.709 standard colour/contrast space or wide gamut 2020 spec for example.
    Those standards exist for a reason and that would mean that my export of an 90% exposed image would be 90% exposed on your calibrated monitor.
    So if one games looks perfect (in my case NBA 2k21 did out of the box), other games should too as they are all working in the same defined limitations.
    Sure you have room for personal preference as well as the rare 'outlier' (think the dark game of thrones episode), but overall a good image should translate time and time again using the same device. Different games shouldn't have to alter picture settings unless something weird is going on.
    In this case, something weird IS going on between living rooms, but there shouldn't be a massive shift in image quality BETWEEN games in the same living room if they are both HDR 4k optimized games.

    All totally valid and fair. For some reason though some games do just struggle with HDR. Red Dead Redemption 2 I remember being weird and not looking quite right. The Resident Evil 2 Remake I felt was a little hard to find something that worked too. I don't know enough about any of this to quite know why, but we have seen some games in the past just not quite handle HDR right regardless of how well your actual TV and all that are calibrated.
    ChaseB
    All totally valid and fair. For some reason though some games do just struggle with HDR. Red Dead Redemption 2 I remember being weird and not looking quite right. The Resident Evil 2 Remake I felt was a little hard to find something that worked too. I don't know enough about any of this to quite know why, but we have seen some games in the past just not quite handle HDR right regardless of how well your actual TV and all that are calibrated.

    yes I fired up RDD2 just last week on my OG ps4 and it looked terrible w/ HDR. I didn't even bother to read up on if OG's can do HDR or not, I just shut it off as I was essentially killing time waiting for the SX to show up.
    I do remember that being an issue, and it seemed to be a problem universally?
    With 2k21, people are reporting wildly different experiences depending on their TV's ... here I have to admit I don't know the process developers use to 'finish' and don't know how involved it is.
    In video its incredibly simple using all the established software
    I have tried 3 methods
    HDR
    HDR to SDR
    and then non HDR
    Non-HDR looked the best to me. 2K will need to have in game settings like other big games when it comes to HDR so people can play it accordingly
    The ps5 version looks great but the solid jersey colours are a bit off for some reason. The reds really do look pinkish and the blacks are greyish (but only on the jerseys, not elsewhere)
    Rmm80
    The ps5 version looks great but the solid jersey colours are a bit off for some reason. The reds really do look pinkish and the blacks are greyish (but only on the jerseys, not elsewhere)

    Yeah that's been a 2K thing for as long as I can remember, at least on HD consoles.
    DayshawnDaBeast
    This just shows current gen and last gen is the same game just one with and without HDR . Graphically that is, gameplay looks the same too . Too bad you didn’t record this with a Series X , the Auto HDR would’ve made them identical 🤦🏿🤦🏿
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    Have you actually played the next-gen version of the game? Looks MUCH better than last gen.
    I will say some of the skin tones and faces are so lifelike in replays it could fool you as a real game . The jerseys just need more pop themselves . Maybe the courts slightly as well.
    ChaseB
    Yeah that's been a 2K thing for as long as I can remember, at least on HD consoles.

    Even on PS3/360. As a Chicago bulls fan it hurt to wear our away jerseys bc that def was not anything close to red lol
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    EccentricMeat
    Have you actually played the next-gen version of the game? Looks MUCH better than last gen.

    I’ve noticed that a lot of the comments like this are coming from people that haven’t played the next gen consoles and I was one of those people until I actually got one. The game feels and plays different. It has a lot of elements from current gen but IMO it’s a lot better especially graphically but that’s obvious. I was basing my opinion off YouTube videos which even in 4K don’t produce actual gameplay quality so once I got it I immediately said Idk why I was frontin like next gen isn’t 10 times better. Now I’ll say this, next gen does have major improvements to make which mainly refers to online and maybe some fixes offline they can make but other than that I’m happy with what we have. A lot better than current gen for me. Just waiting on this post draft roster to hit and MyNBA is gonna be so lit lol. In regards to the topic itself about HDR, I turned my off immediately as it makes a lot of colors look dull on my tv, or as if it had a fog aesthetic to it and I wasn’t feeling that so I took it off and the game looks much better that way
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