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NBA 2K19 Screenshot - DeMarcus Cousins (Overall Rating - 90) Overrated, Underrated or Just Right?
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2K released a new NBA 2K19 screenshot. This one featuring DeMarcus Cousins, in his new Golden State Warriors uniform, with an overall 90 rating. Let us know what you think.
Below are some of the other NBA 2K19 screenshots and player ratings that were recently released.
LeBron is the NBA 2K19 20th Anniversary Edition cover athlete releasing on September 7, while Giannis Antetokounmpo is cover athlete for the NBA 2K19 Standard Edition, releasing on September 11.
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
No one coming back doing the below.
https://youtu.be/a5hmTrhtVlQ
He basically is going to be in the same offense. But those dribbling says are going to close.
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- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
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What do you mean? I need to relax or people in general? If you're saying I need to relax then you're wrong. Do you really feel that a lot can be changed graphically in the next month? Gameplay wise obviously things can change, but graphically I doubt it.
I personally don't think the graphics look bad, I just see all these people on here saying improvements have been made when there clearly hasn't been any.
I personally don't think the graphics look bad, I just see all these people on here saying improvements have been made when there clearly hasn't been any.
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- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
There was some off screen gameplay released. It was decent enough to see that the lighting is basically unchanged from NBA 2k18.
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I highly doubt it. They wouldn't be releasing screenshots of the game if the artwork/graphics weren't set in stone.
I'll come back here in a couple months and everyone will be complaining again. Never ending cycle over here, you all get fooled every year.
Gameplay wise we don't really know yet, so we'll have to wait till we get the prelude in our hands.
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
Yo Peaceman, I'm definitely skeptical too about them improving anything. I don't know if you've seen this, but I posted it in another thread. On the 2K reddit they're taking feedback on the player model issues and giving it to the art team. It may not help, but it's our best shot at getting something done. Link: https://old.reddit.com/r/NBA2k/comments/900fcb/rnba2k_2k19_player_models_feedback_thread_will_be/
For the people who mod 2K like I do on PC, you will know that there are only like 4 body types in the game and they're all copied onto eachother player (this is the reason everybody looks the same).
There is no significant body scan for each player, the only thing the body scans do is scan the textures of their arms to get tattoos, stretch marks or scars etc. The actual size of the body/arms/legs aren't taken into account.
They could technically do it but for some reason they don't (my guess is because it would take up a lot of space) so giving everyone the same body type to keep continuity is a lot easier for them. I will be extremely surprised if they change this mindset leading into this games release.
Added tattoos/arm textures is possible but the actual body models, no way they're going to change a system they've been following since they release 2K on the newer gen consoles.
Lighting is usually the last thing they change before they shipped the game out. In some gameplay videos they made the lighting on the court brighter but the crowd is the same
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There is no significant body scan for each player, the only thing the body scans do is scan the textures of their arms to get tattoos, stretch marks or scars etc. The actual size of the body/arms/legs aren't taken into account.
They could technically do it but for some reason they don't (my guess is because it would take up a lot of space) so giving everyone the same body type to keep continuity is a lot easier for them. I will be extremely surprised if they change this mindset leading into this games release.
Added tattoos/arm textures is possible but the actual body models, no way they're going to change a system they've been following since they release 2K on the newer gen consoles.
I go to the 2K modding site from time to time, even though I don't play on PC, just to see how good 2K could look. It's really a shame that regular people who mod for fun can make players look 100x better than the professional artists who are getting paid. Not saying they are lazy, but how does this make any sense?
No they're not lazy, it's just a business and also it's done for practical terms. If you were to give 100's of players unique player model sizes with unique accessory dimensions etc. it would take up a lot of space, time and resources. They could probably do it but why do it when the current system looks fine and isn't a MAJOR flaw in the game? They could improve the base four models but then your giving certain players muscles that are too big so it's a lose lose situation. They tend to keep the body models as mild as possible and keep it in between muscular and skinny to fit both categories. From the looks of things however, no changes have been made to the 4 body models at all.
Player models are obviously an issue for many, but that's not what I'm even complaining about. I just see all these people coming in here and saying improvements have been made, when all these screenshots are posed in way to make you think so.
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
#Big Facts, it's funny tho someone always come to save 2k when the truth is smacking them in the face. #sameol2kDENIERS lol
Player models are obviously an issue for many, but that's not what I'm even complaining about. I just see all these people coming in here and saying improvements have been made, when all these screenshots are posed in way to make you think so.
My bad, wasn't even talking about body types here just the improved face textures, skin tones, hair, lighting, etc. with the mods. I understand that every single player can't have the perfect body type. Anyways back on topic, Cousins looks like he might have gotten a beefier body type compared to last year so that's a good thing and I think his rating should be a little higher at 92.
Do you some of you just stare and look at the players all day like you have a mancrush or something?
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
Exactly what they doing bro
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Do you some of you just stare and look at the players all day like you have a mancrush or something?
You guys seriously need to just worry about yourselves. If you don't care about graphics that much that's totally fine and up to you. The graphics aren't terrible and obviously aren't going to make or break the game, we just want them to fix some of the issues that they've had the last couple years and as peaceman said to stop deceiving people into thinking they're making all of these improvements when they're really not.
Do you some of you just stare and look at the players all day like you have a mancrush or something?
Did I say the graphics were bad? No.... I said people are being deceived.
I don't give a damn what you're talking about, "man crush" or some ****. What I care about is all these people on this forum claiming players have been improved when they're clearly the same (apart from a few players like Giannis and LeBron).
Can’t believe how toxic this place has become in the past few years. Later, fellas.
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Can’t believe how toxic this place has become in the past few years. Later, fellas.
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Thank 2k and the gaming industry not the consumer who has the right to speak on how they feel about the games good or bad.
Can’t believe how toxic this place has become in the past few years. Later, fellas.
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You think this is toxic? I'm not harassing anyone, I'm just stating my opinion. Why can't people criticise 2K's practices on a forum dedicated to sports gaming? Why has this forum become such a safe space... christ.
Any bit of criticism is shot down immediately and shunned upon right before a games release, but then all of sudden only after the game has been released a couple months in criticism is A okay.
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
I don't think they're really trying to hide anything. It's just that this formula is the best way to capture a player's aesthetic. It shows the player model in their best light. It's simply the most aesthetically pleasing angle.
My biggest issue is that they're showing screenshots predominantly of sweat; I love the way the sweat glistens, but it doesn't show how realistic the player looks when they're completely dry. In their dry state, they look more plastic and waxy with less muscle tone -- that's the biggest problem.
The following two image is the same exact pose of Gordon Hayward. One looks amateurish and tacky; the other looks better more "professional." The black background allows for heavy color contrast to make things pop.
Gordon Hayward 2k18 - black ceiling background
Gordon Hayward 2k18 - crowd background
Gordon Hayward 2k18 PS4 screenshot
Do you some of you just stare and look at the players all day like you have a mancrush or something?
It's not as simple as that. People simply have expectations for this current gen. I would also like to say I do too.
Glistening with sweat captures the players' skin tone best; it shows more muscle definition because of the way light hits the skin and muscle contours. The player resembles himself better in this light. When they're flat and dry, even in these release 2k19 footage, the player look more plastic and waxy and less self-like.
In the below racing footage, if you didn't tell me which game was which, I could mistake either one of them for real life footage. That's basically it. At least, that's what I was hoping for after the 2k14 reveal trailer. I was expecting the PS4/XB1 to bring up graphics closer to realism where I would do double, triple and quadruple takes.
I don't give a damn what you're talking about, "man crush" or some ****. What I care about is all these people on this forum claiming players have been improved when they're clearly the same (apart from a few players like Giannis and LeBron).
OBVIOUSLY, they're working from a picture or model, and they're not working from memory. I agree that some players need better face models or should have an their tattoos on their body. However, I'm not going to get worked up over shades of color or a player is lacking a certain level of muscle definition.
My biggest issue is that they're showing screenshots predominantly of sweat; I love the way the sweat glistens, but it doesn't show how realistic the player looks when they're completely dry. In their dry state, they look more plastic and waxy with less muscle tone -- that's the biggest problem.
It might just be a style they're going for, but it seems a bit fishy considering most of the screenshots taken last year looked perfectly fine from the front. Even the way they've added the 4th quarter sweat for EVERY screenshot just seems like too much of a coincidence, when last year they didn't do it all. I don't know, just screams to me that they're trying to make the game look different.
I personally don't think the graphics look bad, I just see all these people on here saying improvements have been made when there clearly hasn't been any.
Except there clearly HAS been improvements. Muscle definition and skin texture, 2 of the 3 weak points of 2K18s graphics (the third being lighting), have been notably improved.
I personally don't think the graphics look bad, I just see all these people on here saying improvements have been made when there clearly hasn't been any.
You need to relax...
I'm pretty relaxed though. I'm just pointing out something that no one here is talking about.
Aye man don’t go back n forth with these dudes, your observation is correct and they know this, that’s why they feel the need to engage with you.
People with blue screen names may as well be part of 2k advertising.
This forum is part to blame for the direction 2k has taken, you can't criticize the game or say the developers are lazy simply because they used to post here and you can't even say NBA Live by name, you gotta talk about it like Lord Voldemort and say " the other basketball game that shall not be named".
And (brace for thrown fruit and veg) I actually don't think about dark arenas so it isn't a thing for me haha...... but I feel for the folks that do because I see it aswell.
I thought 2K18 looked good. I think 2K19 is looking like it looks better. That's enough for me :)
This forum is part to blame for the direction 2k has taken, you can't criticize the game or say the developers are lazy simply because they used to post here and you can't even say NBA Live by name, you gotta talk about it like Lord Voldemort and say " the other basketball game that shall not be named".
LMAOOOOOOOO.
I understand it's a bit of a stretch and people will obviously disagree with it, but when they've done for like the 9th time in a row and will probably do it again today, do you really think that it's just a big coincidence?
The argument that it's just a style they're going for is completely valid, the only problem is they never did this last year. All of the screenshots were taken from different angles with different levels of sweat (sometimes no sweat)... to me it just feels like this sudden format they're using is too much of a coincidence.
So today when they will probably release another screenshot, if they follow the same format for the 10th time in a row I hope people might take it into account.
Yep. Plus it's kind of understood that the game is gonna look a lot like 2K18, just with touched up effects. The arenas are gonna be pretty close to 2K18; so are the models (and presentation, which I'm not a fan of...). There's really nothing to hide.
Do you some of you just stare and look at the players all day like you have a mancrush or something?
No, but if I'm paying $60 for a game, I expect noticeable improvement over the game I spent $60 on last year. So I don't think it's too much to ask for it to look better, especially when the PC modding community can make it look that much better simply for the love of the game. People are doing it in their spare time for free, and we should be happy that the huge company that we pay doesn't do as good of a job?
Again, it's the same price, and it's not a hardware limitation at this point. Better DoF, higher resolutions/framerates, etc. may be a hardware limitation, but improved body types and face scans are definitely not.
That's great for you, but for a lot of people, it is a major part of the immersion.
A few things wrong with this. First, they have players come in to be scanned. So they're not just working from a picture. And even if they were, they are incredibly high resolution pictures from the perfect angle. Second, PC modders are just working from pictures, and they are producing better results. And the pictures they are working with are usually just what they can find online, not captured in a studio with a ridiculous rig designed for just that purpose.
Again, it all comes down to the cost. They charge full price for the game every year, so we should expect a fully improved game every year.
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Graphics in terms of player model and proportioning are important to me. I didnt play the Lakers as Fisher was too awful, or the Pistons with big alien head Joe Dumars. Shaq ... look funny overall in 18 too though he's on cover. Praying hard to see improved versions this year.
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Graphics in terms of player model and proportioning are important to me. I didnt play the Lakers as Fisher was too awful, or the Pistons with big alien head Joe Dumars. Shaq ... look funny overall in 18 too though he's on cover. Praying hard to see improved versions this year.
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Some of this could be minimized if they would just give us the ability to edit body, arms length for all players again... No idea why they took that out, along with adding/removing headbands.
Never understood why it was taken out either esp. since its still available in the create a player section. Hopefully it returns this year for edit player.
Graphics in terms of player model and proportioning are important to me. I didnt play the Lakers as Fisher was too awful, or the Pistons with big alien head Joe Dumars. Shaq ... look funny overall in 18 too though he's on cover. Praying hard to see improved versions this year.
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Haha I’m the same way. If certain players on a given team look really off, I won’t use them. Harden and CP3 looked so off, I couldn’t use them even though I’m a rockets fan.
I really hope they touch up some retro players and unis.
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You don’t have to buy the game. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.
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You don’t have to buy the game. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.
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Of course not. But we like the game. And we want it to be the best it can be. That's why we're offering up constructive criticism, so that the issues can hopefully be fixed and make the game even better.
That’s fair, even though I don’t see much constructive criticism. From my perspective and after fifteen years of sports gaming, though, sports games will never be “good”. Why? They don’t have nearly enough time to produce a perfect product. Each year seems to have a glaring flaw, whether it be Madden with its’ robo QBs or 2K18 with its’ micro transactions and/or online play.
I’m probably just cynical, though. I’m tired of EA’s BS as well as the other “respected” gaming companies. Regardless, more power to those that want a better game.
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I thought I saw in a video
Steph 96
Klay 90
KD 96
Draymond 87
Boogie 90
I doubt it. I don’t think Draymond is a 90 player. Probably about 86-88.
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Hopefully 2K can fix their lineups. Was watching Chris Smoove’s MyCareer playoff series and they almost never ran their Death Lineup.
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88 Overall (-2)
Position: C
Regular Season: All-Around Superstar (from Offensive Superstar)
OFFENSE
85 Standing Layup (-13)
85 Driving Layup (-4)
80 Post Fade (-14)
85 Post Hook (-10)
85 Post Control (-5)
99 Draw Foul (+11)
86 Shot Close (-3)
71 Open Shot Mid (-4)
71 Contested Mid (+1)
71 Off-Dribble Mid (+4)
81 Open Shot 3pt (-1)
73 Contested 3pt (+3)
73 Off-Dribble 3pt (+9)
75 Free Throw
70 Ball Control (-2)
69 Pass Vision (-2)
75 Pass IQ (-9)
60 Pass Accuracy
59 Offensive Rebound (-1)
80 Standing Dunk (-17)
70 Driving Dunk (-12)
65 Contact Dunk
99 Shot IQ (+4)
95 Hands
DEFENSE
99 Defensive Rebound (+6)
68 Block (-8)
80 Shot Contest (-4)
76 Steal (+7)
85 On-Ball Defense (+15)
90 Low Post Defense (+11)
85 Reaction Time (+2)
ATHLETICISM
99 Boxout (+1)
65 Lateral Quickness (+16)
70 Speed
70 Ball Speed
65 Acceleration (-1)
70 Vertical (-1)
95 Strength (-2)
95 Stamina (-3)
80 Hustle (-10)
80 Durability (-15)
75 Left Foot Durability (-10)
80 Right Foot Durability (-6)
INTANGIBLES
80 Pass Perception (+3)
70 Defensive Consistency (-5)
80 Pick & Roll Defense (+5)
80 Help Defense (+1)
90 Offensive Consistency (-8)
90 Intangibles (+5)
95 Potential (+2)
GRADES
Inside Scoring: A- (from A+)
Mid-Range Scoring: C (from C+)
3PT Scoring: B
Playmaking: B- (from B)
Perimeter Defense: B (from C)
Post Defense: A (from A-)
Rebounding: A (from A-)
Athleticism: C+
Basketball IQ: A
NOTE
These ratings are for Cousins' production in the 2018 season and are not projecting his post-injury ability. We're still 6 months away from him taking the court.
STRENGTHS
A high IQ player with a premium skill set. Perhaps the most talented center in NBA history.
WEAKNESSES
Not an elite shot blocker. His Achillies injury will affect him the most defensively. Even in a diminished role, how many minutes will he be able to handle in the 82-game NBA grind moving forward?
EDITOR'S NOTE
Cousins is such a high skill/IQ player that his injury won't impact him very much. His scoring efficiency will likely tank due to his athletic decline, which means he becomes a Vlade Divac type of player... we're taking that player and putting him on a team that has Stephen Curry, Klay Thompson, and Kevin Durant instead of Mike Bibby, Doug Christie, and Peja Stojakovic (one that started Zaza Pachulia over the last two years).
The best-case scenario is if Cousins recognizes his limitations and reigns in his shot selection. The worst-case is if he transitions to Chris Webber and hurts his teams by attempting to be the player he was before the injury. Given that Cousins is the fifth "star" on a team that has already won championships, that isn't particularly likely.
Rashidi Ratings vs NBA 2K19
97 LeBron James (-1)
96 Kawhi Leonard (+2)
93 Giannis Antetokounmpo (-1)
89 DeMar DeRozan (NC)
88 DeMarcus Cousins (-2)
87 Kemba Walker (+1)
86 Ben Simmons (-1)
86 Donovan Mitchell (-1)
85 Jayson Tatum (-2)
81 D'Angelo Russell (-2)
- Screenshots from taken underneath the player to avoid showing other parts of the game, for e.g the crowd or other aspects of the game.
- 4th quarter sweat to make screenshots look different from last year.
I could be wrong but I feel like they're trying to hide from the fact that things haven't really changed that much. Each screenshot is posed the exact same way, and a lot of people are falling for it thinking improvements have been made (graphically of course).
Improvements have been made graphically. They look better than last year's promo pictures of players.
Not showing other parts of the game, like the crowd, etc., is not what these are about. They are about the players just like very game.
There is no conspiracy, and I don't understand why people year after year complain about this.
The game is updating yearly, which means there aren't gonna be drastic changes. The game doesn't change THAT much every year, so I don't think it's fair of you to say that they are doing this to HIDE THE FACT that the game hasn't changed that much.
The game is updating yearly, which means there aren't gonna be drastic changes. The game doesn't change THAT much every year, so I don't think it's fair of you to say that they are doing this to HIDE THE FACT that the game hasn't changed that much.
while it costs same 60 bucks as others that spend years in development.
But you don't have to buy it. We all know the conditions, it's up to us to decide if want to spend the money or not.
You buy it if you want.
Feel free not to do it.
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you pick the wrong examples. COD, Madden etc.. they are the ones coming out yearly just like nba2k. What's your point?
well, actually Madden changed its game engine entirely although it's coming out yearly.
Feel free not to do it.
still doesn't make any difference that it's 60 bucks every year with little changes.
pointless.
pointless.
Not liking the game is fine, that's an opinion, but saying that they don't make major changes to the game is 110% false.
then talk to the guy who said 'The game is updating yearly, which means there aren't gonna be drastic changes.'
Graphically speaking you aren't going to see major changes, but if you're buying yearly released titles and expecting huge strides in graphics every year, you're going to be disappointed every time.
Not showing other parts of the game, like the crowd, etc., is not what these are about. They are about the players just like very game.
There is no conspiracy, and I don't understand why people year after year complain about this.
The game is updating yearly, which means there aren't gonna be drastic changes. The game doesn't change THAT much every year, so I don't think it's fair of you to say that they are doing this to HIDE THE FACT that the game hasn't changed that much.
I think you'd be surprised how much they factor these screenshots into getting people to pre-order the game. I mean just recently they've completely screwed up their ratings system, inflating a crap ton of ratings (Tatum and Mitchell come to mind) just to appease to fans/players online who have this huge expectation for high ratings.
They 100% use these screenshots to influence people. It's all about building the hype, and what much hype would screenshots build if it didn't look different from last year. Anyone looking at these screenshots can tell there has been barely any improvements from last year, apart from some face scans. It’s just too much of a coincidence for all these screenshots to be taken the exact same way. I don't know, I just feel like the people who praise the "improvements" are being fooled. I guess we'll see in a couple of months when everyone is complaining about body types, big heads and innacuracies again. :jpshakehe
well, actually Madden changed its game engine entirely although it's coming out yearly.
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No one is arguing that a longer development time means the game won't still have issues. Their initial comment was regarding the price. 2k is a yearly title, and costs $60 for the standard edition. Games that take 4-5 years to develop are also being released for $60. So when 2k (and any company that releases a title every year) charges the same price as a game with 4-5x the development time put into it, it's understandable that we might be frustrated that things haven't been fixed that have been complained about for years.