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NBA 2K19 Roster Update Details, Includes Notable Badge Updates (2-1)

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NBA 2K19 Roster Update Details, Includes Notable Badge Updates (2-1)

A new NBA 2K19 roster update is available. Check out the changes below, including notable badge updates.

  • James Harden: 97 OVR (+1)
  • Nikola Jokic: 93 OVR (+2)
  • Paul George: 92 OVR (+1)
  • Kemba Walker: 88 OVR (-1)
  • Ben Simmons: 88 OVR (+1)
  • LaMarcus Aldridge: 88 OVR (+2)
  • Jimmy Butler: 88 OVR (-1)
  • Donovan Mitchell: 87 OVR (+1)
  • Nikola Vucevic: 87 OVR (+1)
  • Luka Doncic: 87 OVR (+1)
  • DeMar DeRozan: 86 OVR (-3)
  • D’Angelo Russell: 86 OVR (+2)
  • Andre Drummond: 86 OVR (-1)
  • Kyle Lowry: 85 OVR (-2)
  • Eric Bledsoe: 85 OVR (+2)
  • Steven Adams: 85 OVR (+1)
  • Zach LaVine: 84 OVR (-1)
  • Marc Gasol: 84 OVR (-1)
  • John Collins: 84 OVR (+1)

  • Buddy Hield: 83 OVR (+1)
  • Malcolm Brogdon: 83 OVR (+1)
  • Louis Williams: 83 OVR (+1)
  • Khris Middleton: 82 OVR (-1)
  • Montrezl Harrell: 82 OVR (+1)
  • Derrick Rose: 82 OVR (+1)
  • Gary Harris: 81 OVR (-1)
  • Brook Lopez: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Gordon Hayward: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Trae Young: 79 OVR (+1)
  • Tim Hardaway Jr.: 79 OVR (-1)
  • Ricky Rubio: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Joe Ingles: 78 OVR (-1)
  • Thaddeus Young: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Kelly Oubre Jr.: 78 OVR (+1)
  • Kris Dunn: 77 OVR (-2)
  • Ivica Zubac: 77 OVR (+2)
  • Malik Beasley: 77 OVR (+3)
  • Kenneth Faried: 77 OVR (+1)
  • Alex Len: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Taurean Prince: 76 OVR (-3)
  • Bismack Biyombo: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Josh Hart: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Dennis Smith Jr.: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Elfrid Payton: 76 OVR (-1)
  • Jahlil Okafor: 76 OVR (+2)
  • Derrick White: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Jerami Grant: 76 OVR (+1)
  • Rodions Kurucs: 75 OVR (+2)
  • Rondae Hollis-Jefferson: 75 OVR (-1)
  • Jake Layman: 75 OVR (+1)
  • Corey Brewer: 74 OVR (+1)
  • George Hill: 74 OVR (-2)
  • Collin Sexton: 74 OVR (-2)
  • Cedi Osman: 74 OVR (+1)
  • Kyle Anderson: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Kevin Huerter: 74 OVR (+3)
  • Rodney McGruder: 74 OVR (-1)
  • Stanley Johnson: 73 OVR (-1)
  • Torrey Craig: 72 OVR (+2)
  • Marquese Chriss: 72 OVR (-2)
  • Luol Deng: 72 OVR (+1)
  • Shake Milton: 70 OVR (+2)
  • Channing Frye: 70 OVR (-2)
  • Jaron Blossomgame: 69 OVR (+2)

Notable Badge Updates

  • D’Angelo Russell: Clutch Performer
  • Luka Doncic: Gold Difficult Shots
  • Trae Young: Gold Dimer
  • Myles Turner: Gold Rim Protector
  • De’Aaron Fox: Gold One Man Fastbreak
  • Damian Lillard: Gold Long Range Deadeye
  • Pascal Siakam: Gold Defensive Stopper
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  1. I think badges got major updates. Haven't really been paying attention this season but Luka Doncic started the year with 3 badges and now has 18.
    If that's the case I wish this would be something 2K would take to advertise about their own damn game. If they're going to put in a substantial effort, why not take the same lengths to let people know about it?
    There has to be something they can do, right? Maybe a YouTube segment they could clip and add to a future episode of 2KTV? If 2K is going to be doing roster updates on a limited basis (every 3 weeks) then just figure out what those dates are and you can work with the producers for when those blocks of time would be.
    (We usually get a big badge update once a year, around this time - that's easy enough to plan a 3-minute segment that highlights the significant changes)
    As far as the ratings:
    Half of them are good/great. The other half are atrocious.
    75 - Raymond Felton: 10.8 PER, 44 TS% on 22 USG%, 15 Games Played, 11 MPG
    75 - D.J. Augustin: 15.2 PER, 63 TS% on 17 USG%, 51 Games Started
    75 - Trey Burke: 15.9 PER, 50 TS% on 26 USG%, 35 Games, 20 MPG
    70 - Jalen Brunson: 10.8 PER, 50 TS% on 18 USG%, 43 Games, 10 Starts, 17 MPG
    Felton is within 3 OVR of Dennis Schroder who is miles better and the reason he has barely played.
    The Magic have been starting a player all season (apparently) on-par with OKC's 3rd string.
    As per usual, the guys at the top get a ton of attention, but the players ranked 100-300 have mainly depressed ratings when in most cases they aren't that far off from being starters themselves.
    Nobody in their right mind is putting Raymond Felton on par with Andre Iguodala (literally identical OVRs, yet here we are in 2K19 at the All-Star break)
    Really hoping that the legacy issue of strange historic badges has finally been resolved. I swear if we have one more iteration of this game wherein 90-91 Alton Lister has Silver Corner Specialist and Bronze Limitless, I'm going to scream. Lol
    mb625
    Really hoping that the legacy issue of strange historic badges has finally been resolved. I swear if we have one more iteration of this game wherein 90-91 Alton Lister has Silver Corner Specialist and Bronze Limitless, I'm going to scream. Lol
    I don't know if it was done earlier, but they completely stripped badges for some players. Vince Carter, Noah, and Chandler for example.
    Rashidi
    As far as the ratings:
    Half of them are good/great. The other half are atrocious.
    75 - Raymond Felton: 10.8 PER, 44 TS% on 22 USG%, 15 Games Played, 11 MPG
    75 - D.J. Augustin: 15.2 PER, 63 TS% on 17 USG%, 51 Games Started
    75 - Trey Burke: 15.9 PER, 50 TS% on 26 USG%, 35 Games, 20 MPG
    70 - Jalen Brunson: 10.8 PER, 50 TS% on 18 USG%, 43 Games, 10 Starts, 17 MPG
    Felton is within 3 OVR of Dennis Schroder who is miles better and the reason he has barely played.
    The Magic have been starting a player all season (apparently) on-par with OKC's 3rd string.
    As per usual, the guys at the top get a ton of attention, but the players ranked 100-300 have mainly depressed ratings when in most cases they aren't that far off from being starters themselves.
    Nobody in their right mind is putting Raymond Felton on par with Andre Iguodala (literally identical OVRs, yet here we are in 2K19 at the All-Star break)
    He is my thing with this kind of about bench players. I'm not saying Felton rating shouldn't be lower. Do you drop a guy because he's not playing?
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    Sooooo Embiid is a legitimate elite player on both sides of the ball, just got selected as eastern conference player of the month and is posting career-highs in all major categories buuuuuut now he's the 2nd-highest rated Center in the NBA.
    To Nikola Jokic.
    INTERESTING.
    I want to play with KP on the Mavs through Play Now. If I select injury free roster, it still has KP on the Knicks as if trade never happened. Do they need to update the injury free roster too?
    Kushmir
    Sooooo Embiid is a legitimate elite player on both sides of the ball, just got selected as eastern conference player of the month and is posting career-highs in all major categories buuuuuut now he's the 2nd-highest rated Center in the NBA.
    To Nikola Jokic.
    INTERESTING.

    Career best AST% for Centers
    28.7% Vlade Divac (2004)
    25.8% DeMarcus Cousins (2017)
    24.8% Marc Gasol (2017)
    24.4% Al Horford (2017)
    23.7% Pau Gasol (2006)
    22.7% Nikola Vucevic (2019)
    21.5% Brad Miller (2006)
    19.5% Tim Duncan
    19.3% Arvydas Sabonis (2003)
    18.9% Anthony Davis (2019)
    18.5% Joel Embiid (2019)
    18.3% Hakeem Olajuwon (1996)
    38.6% Nikola Jokic (2019)
    Jokic already had the best passing season for a bigman in history (29.6% in 2018) and then substantially increased his production to double-up on some of the GOATs. We all know you'd feel different if these players swapped uniforms.
    Jokic
    27.7 PER (4th in NBA)
    60 TS% on 27 USG%
    39 AST% (4th in NBA) on 2.49 ATR
    10 ORB% / 27 DRB%
    2.2 STL% / 2.0 BLK%
    8.3 WS (36-16 Team Record, T-1st West)
    6.73 RPM (3rd in NBA, #1 Center), 4.76 ORPM, 1.97 DRPM
    Embiid
    25.7 PER (8th in NBA)
    59 TS% on 33 USG% (3rd in NBA) (49-30-80)
    19 AST% on 1.00 ATR
    8 ORB% / 34 DRB% (3rd in NBA)
    0.8 STL% / 4.5 BLK%
    6.5 WS (34-18 Team Record, 3rd East)
    4.54 RPM (13th in NBA, #5 Center), 2.13 ORPM, 2.41 DRPM
    Both players are pretty clearly in the superstar tier of centers. Feel free to prefer one over the other. Jokic was a 41st pick in the Embiid draft, so you're far from the only one to sleep on him.
    It seems like there were badge updates, though it's difficult to get a good idea without cross checking.
    SIXERS BADGES
    Joel Embiid (24)
    PERSONALITY: Alpha Dog, Clutch Performer, Microwave, Defensive Anchor, Friendly, Extremely Confident, Expressive
    INSIDE: Putback (Gold), Pick & Roll (Gold), Post Spin (Gold), Drop-Step (Gold), Up & Under (Gold)
    OUTSIDE: Difficult Shots (Silver), Pick & Pop (Silver), Tireless Scorer (Silver)
    PLAYMAKING: Break Starter (Silver), Flashy Passer (Bronze)
    DEFENSE: Defensive Stopper (Gold), Rim Protector (Gold)
    ATHLETICISM: Bruiser (Gold), Lob Finisher (Silver), Posterizer (Silver), Brick Wall (Bronze), Hustle Rebounder (Bronze)
    Ben Simmons (17)
    PERSONALITY: Floor General, Microwave
    INSIDE: Relentless Finisher (Gold), Acrobat (Silver), Putback (Silver)
    OUTSIDE: Difficult Shots (Bronze), Tireless Scorer (Bronze)
    PLAYMAKING: Dimer (Gold), Flashy Passer (Gold), Break Starter (Silver), Lob Passer (Silver), Pick & Roll (Silver)
    DEFENSE: Chasedown Artist (Bronze), Pick Pocket (Bronze)
    ATHLETICISM: One Man Fastbreak (Gold), Posterizer (Silver), Lob Finisher (Bronze)
    Jimmy Butler (17)
    PERSONALITY: Alpha Dog, Clutch Performer, Extremely Confident, Laid Back, Microwave
    INSIDE: Tear Dropper (Gold), Relentless Finisher (Silver), Putback (Bronze)
    OUTSIDE: Difficult Shots (Silver), Tireless Scorer (Silver), Catch & Shoot (Bronze)
    PLAYMAKING: Pick & Roll (Gold)
    DEFENSE: Defensive Stopper (Gold), Pick Dodger (Gold), Pick Pocket (Gold)
    ATHLETICISM: One Man Fastbreak (Bronze), Posterizer (Bronze)
    J.J. Redick (9)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    OUTSIDE: Catch & Shoot (Gold), Corner Specialist (Gold), Deep Range Deadeye (Gold), Limitless Range (Gold), Mid-Range Deadeye (Silver), Difficult Shots (Bronze), Tireless Scorer (Bronze)
    PLAYMAKING: Lob Passer (Bronze)
    T.J. McConnell (5)
    PERSONALITY: Expressive, High Work Ethic, Spark Plug
    PLAYMAKING: Pick & Roll
    DEFENSE: Pick Pocket
    Amir Johnson (4)
    PERSONALITY: Expressive
    INSIDE: Putback (Bronze)
    OUTSIDE: Pick & Pop (Bronze)
    ATHLETICISM: Bruiser (Bronze)
    Landry Shamet (4)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    OUTSIDE: Corner Specialist (Gold), Catch & Shoot (Silver), Deep Range Deadeye (Bronze)
    Corey Brewer (3)
    PERSONALITY: Expressive
    DEFENSE: Charge Card (Bronze), Pick Pocket (Bronze)
    Wilson Chandler (2)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    OUTSIDE: Corner Specialist (Bronze)
    Mike Muscala (2)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    OUTSIDE: Pick & Pop (Bronze)
    Zhaire Smith (2)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    ATHLETICISM: Posterizer (Bronze)
    Markelle Fultz (1)
    PLAYMAKING: Pick & Roll (Bronze)
    Jonah Bolden (1)
    PERSONALITY: Unpredictable
    Shake Milton (1)
    PERSONALITY: Laid Back
    Furkan Korkmaz (0)
    Justin Patton (0)
    Haywood Highsmith (0)
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    Everything looks largely the same so it seems like they may have done it on a case by case basis.
    Landry Shamet picked up some badges.
    Corey Brewer gained Pick Pocket so they may have given a league-wide revision to that badge.
    Ben Simmons gained Floor General
    Rashidi
    Jokic already had the best passing season for a bigman in history (29.6% in 2018) and then substantially increased his production to double-up on some of the GOATs. We all know you'd feel different if these players swapped uniforms.

    NOPE. I pride myself on being objective--and I haven't slept at all. Thats really nice....but passing isn't one of the key tenets for the position, its nice to have but the center position prioritizes last line of defense as its primary responsibility. Its offensive strengths have evolved but that remains the case.
    Rashidi
    Both players are pretty clearly in the superstar tier of centers. Feel free to prefer one over the other. Jokic was a 41st pick in the Embiid draft, so you're far from the only one to sleep on him.

    No one's doubting Jokic is a star but you're presenting this as a contest between equals and its not. His passing might be historic but it simply isn't a priority at the position--and Embiid is a good passer as well while Jokic is an average defensive player at best. That's a pretty big hole in his game and THE priority at the position.
    I'm sorry but Embiid and Jokic are indeed equals to me. Jokic may not be the defender Embiid is but he's solid on that end and by no means a liability - he holds his own weight there. If you pair him up with defenders like Butler and Simmons, he'll look even better. All in all you can definitely make the case for Jokic being better than Embiid. He has the far superior impact on the offensive end.
    Kushmir
    His passing might be historic but it simply isn't a priority at the position

    You might note that most of those career seasons posted were from recent history (the last 3 years). For my own benefit, going to post the Assist% of starting centers in 2019 and 1994 to gauge how much the league has evolved in 25 years.
    2019
    38.8% Nikola Jokic
    25.2% DeMarcus Cousins
    23.0% Marc Gasol
    22.7% Nikola Vucevic
    19.2% Al Horford
    18.9% Anthony Davis
    18.3% Joel Embiid
    17.8% Jusuf Nurkic
    16.2% Karl-Anthony Towns
    13.4% Willie Cauley-Stein
    12.9% Enes Kanter (using as NYK starter due to recent trade)
    12.8% LaMarcus Aldridge
    12.5% Cody Zeller
    12.2% Marcin Gortat
    11.3% Tristan Thompson
    11.2% DeAndre Ayton
    11.1% Wendell Carter Jr
    10.9% Rudy Gobert
    9.5% DeAndre Jordan (using as DAL starter due to recent trade)
    8.9% Myles Turner
    8.7% Jarrett Allen
    8.4% Thomas Bryant (alternate: 2.6% Dwight Howard in 190 minutes)
    8.1% DeWayne Dedmon
    7.6% Serge Ibaka
    7.5% Clint Capela
    7.4% Steven Adams
    7.2% Ivica Zubac (alternate: 5.3% JaVale McGee)
    6.2% Andre Drummond
    5.7% Hassan Whiteside
    4.9% Brook Lopez
    Many of these players (14!) are producing career highs this season. That figure doesn't include the 4 rookie/sophs (DeAndre Ayton, Wendell Carter, Jarrett Allen, Thomas Bryant). That includes Marcin Gortat (in his 12th NBA season), DeAndre Jordan (in his 11th), Serge Ibaka (in his 10th), and Tristan Thompson (in his 8th).
    As teams rely on the three-ball more than ever, having centers who can find the open man has never been more important.
    The lowest ranking player, Brook Lopez, produced 11.6% in 2018 and a career high 14.6% in 2017. This reflects his transformation into a total spotup shooter (while his 3pt rates were also high those seasons, he is staying out of the paint entirely to give Giannis room to operate).
    Heading off to the mid-90s, an era regarded by most as the pinnacle of the center position (it's today's NBA, and not remotely close, but the old-heads can have their fantasy).
    1994
    21.6% David Robinson
    17.1% Chris Webber (was a PF in subsequent years)
    16.4% Hakeem Olajuwon
    13.0% Rik Smits
    12.9% Brad Daugherty
    11.3% Patrick Ewing
    11.1% Shawn Bradley
    11.0% Shaquille O'Neal
    10.6% Vin Baker (was a PF in subsequent years)
    10.5% Bill Cartwright
    8.9% Clifford Robinson (was a PF in prior seasons and a SF in subsequent seasons)
    8.8% Rony Seikaly
    8.7% Kevin Willis
    7.4% Sam Perkins
    6.6% Alonzo Mourning
    6.6% Dikembo Mutombo
    6.3% Robert Parish
    6.3% Sean Rooks
    5.7% Elden Campbell
    5.6% Elmore Spencer
    5.5% Kevin Duckworth
    5.4% Mike Brown
    4.6% Greg Anderson
    3.8% Benoit Benjamin
    3.6% Mark West
    2.8% Felton Spencer
    2.6% Olden Polynice
    18 starting centers are eclipsing 10% in 2019 (60% of starters). Only 10 achieved this in 1994 (37% of starters).
    9 starting centers are generating 16% or more in 2019 (this roughly equates to a 60 Passing rating by 2K scale). Only 3 accomplished this in 1994, two of whom were first ballot hall of famers in the middle of their primes.
    TLDR: Passing is important for centers in the modern NBA.
    What has also changed: teams largely figured out that feeding bigs in the post is inefficient unless that big is historically gifted.
    Patrick Ewing has one of the highest center assist rates in 1994. His 179 assists were respectable for a center - except he also committed 260 turnovers (0.68 ATR). Ewing demanded the ball on offense for years, but was a team killer on this end. He was an elite defensive player, but his teams were always capped by his offensive limitations.
    This is Patrick Ewing we're talking about. A Hall of Famer who took his team to the Finals that year. Not to be confused with guys like Benoit Benjamin and other stone-hand types who were getting significant touches in this era. Most NBA teams were essentially playing 4-on-5 back then (if not worse).
    Nikola Jokic (51 gms): 394 assists, 159 turnovers (2.47 ATR)
    Nikola Vucevic (52 gms): 199 assists, 107 turnovers (1.85 ATR)
    Anthony Davis (41 gms): 179 assists, 82 turnovers (2.18 ATR)
    Joel Embiid (49 gms): 176 assists 177 turnovers (1.00 ATR)
    1994
    David Robinson: 381 assists, 253 turnovers (1.50 ATR)
    Hakeem Olajuwon: 287 assists, 271 turnovers (1.05 ATR)
    Shaquille O'Neal: 195 assists, 222 turnovers (0.87 ATR)
    Patrick Ewing: 179 assists, 260 turnovers (0.68 ATR)
    Alonzo Mourning: 86 assists, 177 turnovers (0.43 ATR)
    Embiid clearly measures out well compared to 90s hall of famers. Jokic is simply on another planet, and what he does on the court is the future of the center position in the NBA. He's the Steph Curry of centers. Once upon a time passing was more important than 3pt shooting for a PG. Times change.
    Kushmir
    NOPE. I pride myself on being objective--and I haven't slept at all. Thats really nice....but passing isn't one of the key tenets for the position, its nice to have but the center position prioritizes last line of defense as its primary responsibility. Its offensive strengths have evolved but that remains the case.
    No one's doubting Jokic is a star but you're presenting this as a contest between equals and its not. His passing might be historic but it simply isn't a priority at the position--and Embiid is a good passer as well while Jokic is an average defensive player at best. That's a pretty big hole in his game and THE priority at the position.
    Embiid also turns over the ball way too much and shoots too many threes.
    And sure passing isn't a priority for most bigs... because they are utilized in a traditional way.
    Jokic is in a system that has him as the primary distributor.
    You can't compare players like it's 1995. Roles and positions are blended more than ever.
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    I'm on the fence about this Embid vs Jokic. I really couldn't find one thing that makes one better at something else. I love both of them. What's the rating difference?
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    Pretty much every dude got badges, only Derrick White (who played really well for the Spurs this season and got bumped by 2k twice) doesn´t get any.
    At least pickpocket, midrange deadeye, corner badges (dude is shooting 55% from the corners) and hell even lockdown perimeter would be well deserved.
    I wouldn´t argue about bronze/silver, but since a walking air-ball like trae young just got several gold shooting badges, at least show some little love for White badges-wise.
    Last night's matchup:
    Nikola Jokic: 27 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 turnovers (11-22 FG)
    Joel Embiid: 15 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 turnovers (4-17 FG)
    LOL
    Rashidi
    Last night's matchup:
    Nikola Jokic: 27 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, 3 turnovers (11-22 FG)
    Joel Embiid: 15 points, 12 rebounds, 1 assist, 4 turnovers (4-17 FG)
    LOL

    tsk, tsk...Did you just trot out empty numbers in a LOSS where Jokic barely cracked even in plus/minus? While Embiid was +13?....Defense matters--even moreso in the playoffs when you dont get to match up with patsies. Guys who can dribble/shoot/pass will always have tremendous value but discounting defense? Ummm....
    The guy with holes in his game will never, ever be the equal of the legitimate two-way superstar. You literally just compared prime CP3 to prime Rondo.
    Embiid was sick and had a bad night shooting and STILL provided elite level defense (4 blocks) and rim protection which easily cancelled out what was a good shooting night by Jokic--who was a sieve on defense (as usual) and the literal definition of empty stats.
    Until such a time as defense isn't a priority at Center and the key tenet in actual winning basketball acting like this is a debate is comical. I like Jokic--I dont want to seem like i'm hating on him, but comparing him to a superstar (Embiid has more 30-10 games this season that Jokic has in his entire career ) who's solid in every aspect of the game AND excels where he's weak? Come Now....thats just silly.
    The empty stats hyperbole might make sense if you were talking about Timberwolves Kevin Love. The Nuggets are 2nd in the west despite a slew of injuries the entire year (for ex: they were missing two starters against a fully healthy Sixers squad. LOL oh wait Embiid had the sniffles).
    Jokic had just clowned the Sixers for 32-18-10 w/ Embiid out of the lineup in a blowout win so I'm sure you understand.
    Jokic trounces Embiid in RPM so I'm not sure why you'd bother bringing up +/-
    8.12 James Harden
    8.06 Paul George
    6.78 Anthony Davis
    6.57 Nikola Jokic
    5.75 Giannis Antetokounmpo

    5.54 Stephen Curry
    5.40 Kyrie Irving
    5.29 Kevin Durant
    5.10 Rudy Gobert
    4.98 LeBron James
    4.94 Kyle Lowry
    4.71 Eric Bledsoe
    4.68 Nikola Vucevic
    4.55 Joel Embiid
    4.16 Jusuf Nurkic

    "Superstar" needs to step his game up because last I checked his supposed greatness on both ends hasn't vaunted his team ahead of an injury-riddled Pacers team in the standings.
    FYI the Sixers are 13th defensively to the Nuggets 15th LOL man what an impact Embiid is having. Keep the bias at home.
    Rashidi
    The empty stats hyperbole might make sense if you were talking about Timberwolves Kevin Love. The Nuggets are 2nd in the west despite a slew of injuries the entire year (for ex: they were missing two starters against a fully healthy Sixers squad. LOL oh wait Embiid had the sniffles).
    Jokic had just clowned the Sixers for 32-18-10 w/ Embiid out of the lineup in a blowout win so I'm sure you understand.
    Jokic trounces Embiid in RPM so I'm not sure why you'd bother bringing up +/-
    8.12 James Harden
    8.06 Paul George
    6.78 Anthony Davis
    6.57 Nikola Jokic
    5.75 Giannis Antetokounmpo

    5.54 Stephen Curry
    5.40 Kyrie Irving
    5.29 Kevin Durant
    5.10 Rudy Gobert
    4.98 LeBron James
    4.94 Kyle Lowry
    4.71 Eric Bledsoe
    4.68 Nikola Vucevic
    4.55 Joel Embiid
    4.16 Jusuf Nurkic

    "Superstar" needs to step his game up because last I checked his supposed greatness on both ends hasn't vaunted his team ahead of an injury-riddled Pacers team in the standings.
    FYI the Sixers are 13th defensively to the Nuggets 15th LOL man what an impact Embiid is having. Keep the bias at home.

    Clowned? Oh you mean when they had 3 starters out on the road? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.
    For a “stats” guy you’re not very good at this. The Sixers starting five grades out as the best in the league. I’m sure you can guess why as Embiid is the constant. The bench was really bad the last two years and it drags down their ratings.
    Better RPM than Embiid doesn’t mean much when he loses the matchup AND the sixers have played one of the hardest schedules in the league. As usual, the playoffs will tell the tale.
    Touche’. PRO TIP: You may want to step your game up along with Embiid. Bias? No sir....You’re confused. We certainly haven’t forgotten your proclaiming Jeremy Lin a superstar when he played for NY.
    Not your finest moment to be sure.
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    Oh well. I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again. One of us can admit to it.
    If the best you've got is something from 7 years ago I think I'll live. I don't need to smear other people/players to enhance my arguments; they stand well enough on their own.
    Jokic is demonstrably elite and there is little to suggest Embiid's on-court production leads to more Ws. If Jokic were a bad defender (which he was in PRIOR seasons), they wouldn't be where they're at.
    Rashidi
    Oh well. I've been wrong before, and I'll be wrong again. One of us can admit to it.
    If the best you've got is something from 7 years ago I think I'll live. I don't need to smear other people/players to enhance my arguments; they stand well enough on their own.
    Jokic is demonstrably elite and there is little to suggest Embiid's on-court production leads to more Ws. If Jokic were a bad defender (which he was in PRIOR seasons), they wouldn't be where they're at.

    AGAIN: I’m not bashing Jokic, I started this by saying he’s a very good player. What I’m saying is you using words like bias is...........cute. oh.....and that your declaring someone elite doesn’t mean what it used to.
    Welp. I think my work is done here so i’ll be off. You have fun doing your lil’ roster or whatever....
    Rashidi
    Feast your eyes as grown man with 300 Twitter followers and 30 YouTube subs engages in lil' irony

    Oh My. This just got GOOD.
    You don't really think pretending to make lil' rosters on the interwebz is a real thing....do you? HILARIOUS. I've heard stories of people that make ZILCH on social media but imagine Twitter followers/Youtube subs are a thing--but I never actually thought i'd like, SEE one. WOW.
    Most of us use things like that for you know...FUN. I actually work a REAL JOB (and get paid jaw-dropping amounts of money to do it) Hell, i'm on vacation in the Caribbean as we speak--thinking of going back to the states in a month or so. NO RUSH, Obviously. https://www.instagram.com/p/Bt1UJJMhpK_/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1udmx4cu84d94
    And as long as we're posting my "stats" you be sure to include that F430 I drive on the weekends when its nice out. OOOPS.
    I'll clue you in on a lil' secret. Most of us have thought your "2K Insider" thing was funny—but harmless. We've tolerated you playing PRETEND Roster Maker on the internet because its cute. *Whispers* Here's the thing tho: If you were any good at it?...you'd have been working at 2K loooooong ago lol. Jeremy Lin a superstar? COME NOW. "Real 2K Insider?" Seriously John? #cutitoutman
    Alas, This was sooooo much fun. We HAVE to do it again sometime soon....i'll be sure to sip a few of those drinks with the funny little umbrellas for you, mmkay? *waves hand dismissively* TA-TA for now.
    MoneyOvaHuds
    Lauri Markkanen is averaging 23 points and 14 rebounds over his last 8 games, recording double-doubles in 7 of them.

    Lauri is kinda capped because those are the only two dimensions of basketball he's good at.
    He's averaging 2.0 APG, 0.4 SPG and 0.4 BPG in the same stretch.
    While his numbers might "seem" gaudy (over this 8-game stretch), slot it next to any Kevin Love season from the past 5 years and it quickly falls apart.
    I have him at 82 OVR (+1). He'd probably rate 84 OVR if not for the crappy 2K formula.
    2018 Kevin Love (59 gms, 16/11/3 in 28 MPG)
    22.4 PER
    61 TS% on 25 USG%
    10 AST% on 1.14 ATR
    7 ORB% / 30 DRB%
    1.3 STL% / 1.2 BLK%
    3.40 RPM (1.81 ORPM / 1.59 DRPM) - PF Rank 4th
    2019 Lauri Markkanen (34 gms, 18/9/1 in 32 MPG)
    17.0 PER
    56 TS% on 25 USG%
    6 AST% on 0.72 ATR
    4 ORB% / 25 DRB%
    1.2 STL% / 2.0 BLK%
    -1.08 RPM (-0.71 ORPM / -0.37 DRPM) - PF Rank 57th
    Love Shooting 2018 (80 games - BBRef combines season/playoffs)
    Rim: 157-246 (64%)
    Close: 86-243 (35%)
    Mid: 27-83 (33%)
    3pt: 173-446 (40%)
    FT: 293-330 (89%)
    Markkanen Shooting 2019 (34 gms)
    Rim: 71-115 (62%)
    Close: 53-133 (40%)
    Mid: 15-40 (38%)
    3pt: 85-224 (38%)
    FT: 93-107 (87%)
    Markkanen is a better Close/Mid-range player than Love was last season, though he doesn't exactly stand out in this department either.
    Love was a tick better at the rim and 3pt percentage-wise, but also draws nearly twice as many fouls (more high percentage freebies at the line).
    So while there are some similarities here, there are some deficiencies that Lauri needs to fill just to be on par with... a fringe all-star with likewise documented deficiencies.
    Kushmir
    FUN. I actually work a REAL JOB (and get paid jaw-dropping amounts of money to do it) Hell, i'm on vacation in the Caribbean as we speak

    And yet, here you are on Operation Sports, getting baited by a guy you can't stand, because all the money and status in the world couldn't buy you emotional security. Are you going to drunk text your ex's next?
    Rashidi
    And yet, here you are on Operation Sports, getting baited by a guy you can't stand, because all the money and status in the world couldn't buy you emotional security. Are you going to drunk text your ex's next?

    Again: OS is for fun, don’t take it so seriously dude. Now do “some” people use it to bolster their low self-esteem by imagining a make-believe world where they’re more important than they really are? CERTAINLY. PRO-TIP: When you’re a winner in REAL LIFE you don’t trifle in such things. You’re the guy who brought twitter followers into this like that’s really a thing lol. i’m just making sure you know what the actual score is Anytime you need a reminder your life sucks i’m here for you.
    Well, I’m pretty sure that concludes this episode of “It’s better to be silent and THOUGHT a fool.”—thanks for playing tho.
    I find these posts hysterical.
    I'm sorry I struck a nerve and have you in your feelings lashing out on what is supposed to be a relaxing vacation for you.
    With that said, for the sake of your short and long-term dignity, I'm gonna have to ask you to save your personal venom for the DMs and try to stick to topic. If there's one thing you know less about than basketball, it's anything about me personally and professionally.
    Anybody care to explain why Kawhi has a 95 Ovr and Paul George has a 92 Ovr when statistically (at least on the surface ) they have fairly equal numbers .
    Is PG getting his respect ?
    Rashidi
    I find these posts hysterical.
    I'm sorry I struck a nerve and have you in your feelings lashing out on what is supposed to be a relaxing vacation for you.
    With that said, for the sake of your short and long-term dignity, I'm gonna have to ask you to save your personal venom for the DMs and try to stick to topic. If there's one thing you know less about than basketball, it's anything about me personally and professionally.

    Not as funny as I do I’m not often laughing out loud when I type lol—but every once in awhile...
    You’ll never find me bragging about stuff but the moment you want to bring up real life it’s my sworn duty to remind you i’m probablynot the guy you wanna do that with. As painful as it must be for you there’s a difference between internet and REAL success.
    Even funnier? Now you’re all sorry/backing down/wanna talk basketball. 🤣 just lol...this is better than stand-up.
    Rockie_Fresh88
    Anybody care to explain why Kawhi has a 95 Ovr and Paul George has a 92 Ovr when statistically (at least on the surface ) they have fairly equal numbers .
    Is PG getting his respect ?

    The OVR formula being awful? Plus Kawhi's D being rated like it's his DPOY season?
    TheFinalEvent97
    The OVR formula being awful? Plus Kawhi's D being rated like it's his DPOY season?

    And is he really deserves the HoF defender badge?
    This season he is playing good but not top defense, IMHO...
    Rockie_Fresh88
    Anybody care to explain why Kawhi has a 95 Ovr and Paul George has a 92 Ovr when statistically (at least on the surface ) they have fairly equal numbers .
    Is PG getting his respect ?

    Kawhi Leonard
    26.1 PER (5th in NBA)
    61 TS% on 30 USG%
    16 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.6 STL% / 1.0 BLK%
    Paul George
    24.9 PER (13th in NBA) - Career high by large margin
    60 TS% on 30 USG%
    18 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.9 STL% / 1.1 BLK%
    These guys are practically identical.
    Rather than bashing Kawhi we should be giving more credit to George.
    PG leads the league in RPM. He's 1st among SFs in ORPM and DRPM
    RPM for SFs with 30 MPG
    8.44 Paul George (4.98 ORPM / 3.46 DRPM)
    5.46 Kevin Durant (4.76 ORPM / 0.70 DRPM)
    5.19 LeBron James (3.35 ORPM / 1.84 DRPM)
    4.14 Jimmy Butler (2.93 ORPM / 1.24 DRPM)
    3.04 Joe Ingles (1.16 ORPM / 1.88 DRPM)
    2.66 Kawhi Leonard (2.79 ORPM / -0.13 DRPM)
    2.65 Robert Covington (-0.48 ORPM / 3.13 DRPM)
    2.45 Danilo Gallinari (2.99 ORPM / -0.54 DRPM)
    2.01 Luka Doncic (2.83 ORPM / -0.82 DRPM)
    2.01 Josh Richardson (1.62 ORPM / 0.39 DRPM)
    1.88 Khris Middleton (1.42 ORPM / 0.46 DRPM)
    1.04 Jayson Tatum (0.23 ORPM / 0.81 DRPM)
    0.70 Joe Harris (2.14 ORPM / -1.44 DRPM)
    0.36 DeMar DeRozan (0.26 ORPM / 0.10 DRPM)
    -0.42 Bojan Bogdanovic (0.89 OPRM / -1.31 DRPM)
    -0.42 Nicolas Batum (-0.13 ORPM / -0.29 DRPM)
    -0.53 Harrison Barnes (-0.18 ORPM / -0.35 DRPM)
    -1.14 Trevor Ariza (0.38 ORPM / -1.52 DRPM)
    -4.24 Cedi Osman (-1.13 ORPM / -3.11 DRPM)
    Rashidi
    Kawhi Leonard
    26.1 PER (5th in NBA)
    61 TS% on 30 USG%
    16 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.6 STL% / 1.0 BLK%
    Paul George
    24.9 PER (13th in NBA) - Career high by large margin
    60 TS% on 30 USG%
    18 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.9 STL% / 1.1 BLK%
    These guys are practically identical.
    Rather than bashing Kawhi we should be giving more credit to George.
    PG leads the league in RPM. He's 1st among SFs in ORPM and DRPM
    RPM for SFs with 30 MPG
    8.44 Paul George (4.98 ORPM / 3.46 DRPM)
    5.46 Kevin Durant (4.76 ORPM / 0.70 DRPM)
    5.19 LeBron James (3.35 ORPM / 1.84 DRPM)
    3.04 Joe Ingles (1.16 ORPM / 1.88 DRPM)
    2.66 Kawhi Leonard (2.79 ORPM / -0.13 DRPM)
    2.65 Robert Covington (-0.48 ORPM / 3.13 DRPM)
    2.45 Danilo Gallinari (2.99 ORPM / -0.54 DRPM)
    2.01 Luka Doncic (2.83 ORPM / -0.82 DRPM)
    1.88 Khris Middleton (1.42 ORPM / 0.46 DRPM)
    1.04 Jayson Tatum (0.23 ORPM / 0.81 DRPM)
    0.70 Joe Harris (2.14 ORPM / -1.44 DRPM)
    -0.42 Bojan Bogdanovic (0.89 OPRM / -1.31 DRPM)
    -0.42 Nicolas Batum (-0.13 ORPM / -0.29 DRPM)
    -0.53 Harrison Barnes (-0.18 ORPM / -0.35 DRPM)
    -1.14 Trevor Ariza (0.38 ORPM / -1.52 DRPM)
    -4.24 Cedi Osman (-1.13 ORPM / -3.11 DRPM)

    Hello Rashidi, could you analyze the defensive side of these players?
    For example opponent FG% (3FG%), steals, deflection and blocks...
    Having just scored 44 points I expect Siakam's ball handling (42; which is two less than Gasol) and speed w/ball (58) to be increased to what his MyTeam card is (I believe 77 and 78--which are the same as Draymond Green's)
    Rashidi
    Kawhi Leonard
    26.1 PER (5th in NBA)
    61 TS% on 30 USG%
    16 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.6 STL% / 1.0 BLK%
    Paul George
    24.9 PER (13th in NBA) - Career high by large margin
    60 TS% on 30 USG%
    18 AST% on 1.57 ATR
    4 ORB% / 19 DRB%
    2.9 STL% / 1.1 BLK%
    These guys are practically identical.
    Rather than bashing Kawhi we should be giving more credit to George.
    PG leads the league in RPM. He's 1st among SFs in ORPM and DRPM
    RPM for SFs with 30 MPG
    8.44 Paul George (4.98 ORPM / 3.46 DRPM)
    5.46 Kevin Durant (4.76 ORPM / 0.70 DRPM)
    5.19 LeBron James (3.35 ORPM / 1.84 DRPM)
    3.04 Joe Ingles (1.16 ORPM / 1.88 DRPM)
    2.66 Kawhi Leonard (2.79 ORPM / -0.13 DRPM)
    2.65 Robert Covington (-0.48 ORPM / 3.13 DRPM)
    2.45 Danilo Gallinari (2.99 ORPM / -0.54 DRPM)
    2.01 Luka Doncic (2.83 ORPM / -0.82 DRPM)
    1.88 Khris Middleton (1.42 ORPM / 0.46 DRPM)
    1.04 Jayson Tatum (0.23 ORPM / 0.81 DRPM)
    0.70 Joe Harris (2.14 ORPM / -1.44 DRPM)
    -0.42 Bojan Bogdanovic (0.89 OPRM / -1.31 DRPM)
    -0.42 Nicolas Batum (-0.13 ORPM / -0.29 DRPM)
    -0.53 Harrison Barnes (-0.18 ORPM / -0.35 DRPM)
    -1.14 Trevor Ariza (0.38 ORPM / -1.52 DRPM)
    -4.24 Cedi Osman (-1.13 ORPM / -3.11 DRPM)

    Yeah man I feel like pg should be rated on par with all the other mvp candidates. At least on par with Kawhi . That’s why I brought this up . Thanks for the input
    Rashidi
    I find these posts hysterical.
    I'm sorry I struck a nerve and have you in your feelings lashing out on what is supposed to be a relaxing vacation for you.
    With that said, for the sake of your short and long-term dignity, I'm gonna have to ask you to save your personal venom for the DMs and try to stick to topic. If there's one thing you know less about than basketball, it's anything about me personally and professionally.

    Just wanted to say, that this exchange made my night. He got so personal after you started using statistics and superior basketball knowledge. Way to keep it civil. Also, your rosters are amazing.
    Rockie_Fresh88
    Yeah man I feel like pg should be rated on par with all the other mvp candidates. At least on par with Kawhi . That’s why I brought this up . Thanks for the input

    I think what ultimately suppresses his OVR are his shooting splits.
    Paul George (56 gms)
    Rim: 152-240 (63%)
    Close: 96-236 (41%)
    Mid: 63-156 (40%)
    3pt: 218-537 (41%)
    LeBron James (39 gms)
    Rim: 206-277 (74%)
    Close: 55-158 (35%)
    Mid: 41-84 (49%)
    3pt: 81-228 (36%)
    Kevin Durant (57 gms)
    Rim: 158-207 (76%)
    Close: 186-378 (49%)
    Mid: 105-203 (52%)
    3pt: 105-286 (37%)
    Kawhi Leonard (43 gms)
    Rim: 130-187 (70%)
    Close: 186-283 (48%)
    Mid: 55-127 (43%)
    3pt: 77-212 (36%)
    George is by far the worst finisher, but also the best 3pt shooter by a mile (200+ threes at the ASB!!!). He's a slightly above-average mid-range player but certainly not elite.
    That 3pt shooting has more basketball value than the mid-range game (esp for a SF, really it's only PGs who are taking the shot nowadays), but 2K probably weighs them equally.
    i'm currently looking at the open 3pt rating vs the actual nba stats for 3pt% (as of 18 Jan 2019).
    Klay Thompson, 94, 0.369
    Marcus Morris, 90, 0.446
    Stephen Curry, 99, 0.459
    Joe Harris, 92, 0.474
    Davis Bertans, 90, 0.48
    Seth Curry, 92, 0.487
    would u adjust downwards for Steph or upwards for Marcus, Joe, Davis and Seth?
    If I play at HOF, I am very inclined to adjust it downwards for Steph and Klay bcos anything in the 90s range is almost a guarantee make at HOF and SS. If I were to use the Spurs (offline myleague), I'll probably want Bertans to be on par with Joe Harris at 92 or Steph at 99.
    I've seen some impressive players improved on their shooting range eg. Terrance Ferguson who has a pathetic 70 open 3pt rating and yet having a solid 0.371 (3pt%) this season. Other players having the same 3pt% like him includes Rodney Hood (82), and Justin Jackson (80). He's definitely a better shooter than Justin Jackson imo and I'll probably bump his open 3pt rating to 82.
    Thoughts?

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