NBA 2K19 Roster Update Details (2-21)

a lot of drops this time around.
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Not for them Pacers :59:.

2k logic: Brandon Ingram has imporved every state line there is since lebron injured. pts, fg%, ft%, ast and rebs... lets give him a drop :y9::y9::y9:

earned! still #3 in the east even without oladipo and one of their 5 man (without dipo) lineups one of the Best of the League.

Definitely expect them to lose in the first round, but they will be a tough out.
The Pacers organization is probably the most underrated one in the league. Last pick inside the top 10 was 1989 and they've been to the conference finals 8 times since. They just refuse to tank and I respect that.
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We can finally stop hearing about the Siakam 42 speed with ball and speed rating. Both were addressed. 67 and 80 respectively now.
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Saw that in another thread. It won't be enough though lol
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+2 for PG? Definitely here for it! :y220e:

The only meaningful stat that went UP for Ingram in LeBron's absence was MINUTES per game
(31 MPG from Oct-Dec / 36 MPG since)
His Usage rate actually didn't even move w/ LeBron out, which is quite telling (and damning).
Brandon Ingram 2019 (47 gms, 34 MPG)
12.6 PER
54 TS% on 23 USG%
13 AST% on 1.28 ATR
3 ORB% / 13 DRB%
0.8 STL% / 1.4 BLK%
-2.44 RPM (-1.68 ORPM / -0.76 DRPM) - WOOF
Shooting
Rim: 143-275 (68%)
Close: 104-252 (41%)
Mid: 40-94 (43%)
3pt: 22-80 (28%) - BARF
FT: 170-255 (67%) - For a SG????
Ingram has hit as many threes this year as Rajon Rondo (22)...... in TWICE AS MANY GAMES (47 to 24). Folks complaining about his rating are proof that ppl on OS will complain about literally anything. He's essentially the first wing in NBA history that LeBron didn't make a better shooter.
The reality is he's not very good. He's average in a few areas and below average in others. There's a reason the Pelicans are holding out for Tatum.

But what about Ball and the other let it other players. They held out because they didn't want to be controlled lol. Now everyone is ****ed up. Dell is out of a job. The Pels have this awkwardness that can be cut with a knife lol. Tatum hasn't been playing as good as he was last year. So I don't see the reason for waiting
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Analysis of NBA 2K19 Top 10 Players by position
*Denotes Incorrect Positions in NBA 2K19
POINT GUARDS
96 Stephen Curry: 25.9 PER, 66 TS%, 30 USG%, 24 AST%
93 Kyrie Irving: 24.9 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 35 AST%
91 Damian Lillard: 23.7 PER, 59 TS%, 30 USG%, 29 AST%
91 Russell Westbrook: 20.6 PER, 48 TS%, 31 USG%, 47 AST%
89 John Wall: 18.1 PER, 53 TS%, 29 USG%, 39 AST%
88 Kemba Walker: 21.5 PER, 56 TS%, 31 USG%, 28 AST%
88 Ben Simmons: 20.1 PER, 58 TS%, 22 USG%, 35 AST%
86 D'Angelo Russell: 18.8 PER, 53 TS%, 31 USG%, 39 AST%
86 Chris Paul: 19.4 PER, 56 TS%, 22 USG%, 39 AST%
85 Mike Conley: 20.4 PER, 55 TS%, 27 USG%, 34 AST%
Westbrook lead the league w/ 30 PER just two years ago.... he's fallen off a cliff at age 30.
Wall hasn't been All-Star caliber in two years, even though he got the nod last season... reason the Wizards struggled even when he was healthy. He won't be same physically when he comes back a year from now....
No wonder Mike Conley wants to go to the Eastern Conference, where Kyle Lowry (16.9 PER) just made his 5th consecutive All-Star team....
SHOOTING GUARDS
88 Klay Thompson: 16.7 PER, 57 TS%, 26 USG%, 10 AST%
87 Bradley Beal: 19.8 PER, 58 TS%, 28 USG%, 23 AST%
87 Victor Oladipo: 17.8 PER, 52 TS%, 28 USG%, 25 AST%
87 Donovan Mitchell: 15.9 PER, 52 TS%, 32 USG%, 21 AST%
86 Devin Booker: 18.6 PER, 57 TS%, 32 USG%, 34 AST%
85 Jrue Holiday: 19.5 PER, 55 TS%, 25 USG%, 32 AST%
85 C.J. McCollum: 16.8 PER, 55 TS%, 26 USG%, 13 AST%
84 Zach LaVine: 18.3 PER, 57 TS%, 30 USG%, 23 AST%
83 Malcolm Brogdon: 17.7 PER, 61 TS%, 21 USG%, 16 AST%
83 Buddy Hield: 17.5 PER, 60 TS%, 25 USG%, 11 AST%
Harden is listed at SF (Eric Gordon has started at SG all year, and continues to start w/ CP3 back), which is why he's not here.
Klay Thompson is overrated. More on this later.
Beal, Booker, and Holiday are the best SGs in basketball (non-Harden) by a fair margin. Oladipo is in the same group when healthy (shooting was down this year).
Donovan Mitchell was a bit of fools' gold and I'd take the sharpshooters like Brogdon/Hield over him.... his long-term position is likely PG, due to his size, need for the ball, and poor off-ball shooting.
SMALL FORWARDS
98 LeBron James: 25.6 PER, 60 TS%, 31 USG%, 36 AST%
97 James Harden*: 30.5 PER, 62 TS%, 40 USG%, 40 AST%
96 Kevin Durant: 25.1 PER, 63 TS%, 30 USG%, 26 AST%
95 Kawhi Leonard: 26.1 PER, 61 TS%, 30 USG%, 16 AST%
94 Paul George: 24.9 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 18 AST%
88 Jimmy Butler*: 21.4 PER, 59 TS%, 22 USG%, 18 AST%
87 Luka Doncic: 19.2 PER, 55 TS%, 29 USG%, 29 AST%
86 DeMar DeRozan*: 18.6 PER, 52 TS%, 29 USG%, 27 AST%
85 Jayson Tatum: 16.2 PER, 56 TS%, 23 USG%, 9 AST%
83 Danilo Gallinari: 19.7 PER, 63 TS%, 23 USG%, 12 AST%
Harden leads league in PER and has the highest USG% in NBA history. He has the best TS% by far of any player that has exceeded 35 USG% (multiple Michael Jordan seasons, Kobe, Iverson, Westbrook, Wade).
Career year for Paul George.... he's reason OKC is winning despite Westbrook's train wreck season... basically on par w/ what Kawhi's been doing last couple years but good that PG13 is fully back from injury and finally realizing the potential he was pegged with a decade ago.
Look no further than Jimmy Butler, Jayson Tatum, and Danilo Gallinari for a quick synopsis of how overrated Klay Thompson really is (in video games and life)...
POWER FORWARDS
95 Giannis Antetokounmpo*: 30.3 PER, 64 TS%, 30 USG%, 32 AST%
88 Kristaps Porzingis (2018): 20.4 PER, 54 TS%, 31 USG%, 6 AST%
87 Blake Griffin: 21.7 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 27 AST%
86 Tobias Harris: 18.6 PER, 61 TS%, 23 USG%, 13 AST%
85 Julius Randle: 21.7 PER, 61 TS%, 27 USG%, 15 AST%
85 Pascal Siakam: 18.6 PER, 63 TS%, 20 USG%, 13 AST%
85 Kevin Love (7 games): 15.5 PER, 50 TS%, 31 USG%, 15 AST%
84 John Collins: 21.4 PER, 64 TS%, 24 USG%, 12 AST%
84 Kyle Kuzma: 15.0 PER, 56 TS%, 24 USG%, 11 AST%
84 Draymond Green: 13.2 PER, 51 TS%, 13 USG%, 29 AST%
Of course Giannis drops a bunch of points if you actually make him a PF
Kuzma's rating is a bonafide joke compared to John Collins.
CENTERS
95 Anthony Davis: 30.5 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 19 AST%
93 Nikola Jokic: 27.0 PER, 59 TS%, 28 USG%, 38 AST%
92 Joel Embiid: 25.5 PER, 59 TS%, 33 USG%, 18 AST%
90 Karl-Anthony Towns: 25.6 PER, 62 TS%, 27 USG%, 16 AST%
89 Rudy Gobert: 24.5 PER, 68 TS%, 17 USG%, 11 AST%
88 DeMarcus Cousins: 19.4 PER, 54 TS%, 28 USG%, 22 AST%
87 Nikola Vucevic: 25.6 PER, 58 TS%, 28 USG%, 23 AST%
87 LaMarcus Aldridge*: 22.6 PER, 57 TS%, 27 USG%, 13 AST%
86 Clint Capela: 24.1 PER, 64 TS%, 19 USG%, 7 AST%
86 Andre Drummond: 22.4 PER, 54 TS%, 24 USG%, 6 AST%
Gobert leads the league in TS%.... it's ridiculous he was left off the All-Star team while Klay Thompson went again for the glorified 3/D role he's not even that good at...
Cousins has played about as well as expected since returning from torn Achilles but it's time to drop his rating.... players like Vucevic are outperforming what Cousins was doing when healthy.

The Celtics can be STINGY and make a better offer than any Lakers package. The Lakers aren't offering anyone who projects as a long-term starter on a quality playoff team. Ball/Ingram/Kuzma all have significant warts.
Tatum is 20 years old, lead a team in the Conference Finals as a rookie, and is the prototype for everything you want from a modern SF. He may not be a franchise player but he's a safe bet for the Klay Thompson tier over the next decade. The Pelicans have literally been starting 6'4" E'Twaun Moore at SF the last few years so a young player without question marks (except how good he'll be) is exactly what they're looking for.

The only reason it's "awkward" is because the Celtics weren't allowed to acquire Davis via trade due to Kyrie's franchise tag (whom they acquired via trade). Unintended consequence from the new CBA.

This isn't actually true.
Jayson Tatum 2019 (59 gms, 31 MPG, Age 20)
16.2 PER (+0.9 from last year)
56 TS% on 23 USG%
9 AST% on 1.27 ATR
3 ORB% / 18 DRB%
2.0 STL% / 2.4 BLK%
1.04 RPM (0.23 ORPM / 0.81 DRPM)
Shooting
Rim: 137-196 (70%)
Close: 81-210 (39%)
Mid: 48-139 (35%)
3pt: 93-245 (38%) - Notably, not 22 3PM on 28%
FT: 162-188 (86%)
The most important take away from this is Tatum blows Ingram out of the water. He is by far a better prospect than anyone the Lakers can offer. The Celtics can also offer more and better draft picks.
His biggest "weakness" is Kobe got in his ear over the summer which lead to poor Mid-range shooting numbers early in the year (that he since reined in).
Oh, that and he doesn't draw much contact, which is fine because he's hit as many FTs as Ingram in 70 fewer attempts because that's how trash Ingram is by comparison.

By the way I was completely kidding lol. Sorry
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"The Real NBA 2K19" (PS4 Roster)
TOP 10 POINT GUARDS
93 (-3) Stephen Curry (GSW): 25.9 PER, 66 TS%, 30 USG%, 24 AST%
93 (NC) Kyrie Irving (BOS): 24.9 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 35 AST%
92 (+1) Damian Lillard (POR): 23.7 PER, 59 TS%, 30 USG%, 29 AST%
92 (+1) Russell Westbrook (OKC): 20.6 PER, 48 TS%, 31 USG%, 47 AST%
89 (+1) Kemba Walker (CHA): 21.5 PER, 56 TS%, 31 USG%, 28 AST%
89 (+3) Chris Paul (HOU): 19.4 PER, 56 TS%, 22 USG%, 39 AST%
88 (NC) Ben Simmons (PHI): 20.1 PER, 58 TS%, 22 USG%, 35 AST%
87 (+2) Mike Conley (MEM): 20.4 PER, 55 TS%, 27 USG%, 34 AST%
87 (+2) Eric Bledsoe (MIL): 19.0 PER, 58 TS%, 23 USG%, 27 AST%
87 (+2) Kyle Lowry (TOR): 16.9 PER, 56 TS%, 19 USG, 37 AST%
TOP 10 SHOOTING GUARDS
89 (+4) Jrue Holiday (NOP): 19.5 PER, 55 TS%, 25 USG%, 32 AST%
89 (+2) Victor Oladipo (IND): 17.8 PER, 52 TS%, 28 USG%, 25 AST%
88 (+2) Devin Booker (PHX): 18.6 PER, 57 TS%, 32 USG%, 34 AST%
87 (NC) Bradley Beal (WAS): 19.8 PER, 58 TS%, 28 USG%, 23 AST%
85 (-2) Donovan Mitchell (UTA): 15.9 PER, 52 TS%, 32 USG%, 21 AST%
84 (NC) Zach LaVine (CHI): 18.3 PER, 57 TS%, 30 USG%, 23 AST%
84 (-1) C.J. McCollum (POR): 16.8 PER, 55 TS%, 26 USG%, 13 AST%
83 (NC) Malcolm Brogdon (MIL): 17.7 PER, 61 TS%, 21 USG%, 16 AST%
83 (NC) Buddy Hield (SAC): 17.5 PER, 60 TS%, 25 USG%, 11 AST%
83 (-5) Klay Thompson (GSW): 16.7 PER, 57 TS%, 26 USG%, 10 AST%
TOP 10 SMALL FORWARDS
99 (+1) LeBron James (LAL): 25.6 PER, 60 TS%, 31 USG%, 36 AST%
98 (+2) Kevin Durant (GSW): 25.1 PER, 63 TS%, 30 USG%, 26 AST%
95 (-2) James Harden (HOU): 30.5 PER, 62 TS%, 40 USG%, 40 AST%
94 (-1) Kawhi Leonard (TOR): 26.1 PER, 61 TS%, 30 USG%, 16 AST%
93 (-1) Paul George (OKC): 24.9 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 18 AST%
90 (+2) Jimmy Butler (PHI): 21.4 PER, 59 TS%, 22 USG%, 18 AST%
90 (+3) Luka Doncic (DAL): 19.2 PER, 55 TS%, 29 USG%, 29 AST%
89 (+3) DeMar DeRozan (SAS): 18.6 PER, 52 TS%, 29 USG%, 27 AST%
88 (+5) Danilo Gallinari (LAC): 19.7 PER, 63 TS%, 23 USG%, 12 AST%
86 (+1) Jayson Tatum (BOS): 16.2 PER, 56 TS%, 23 USG%, 9 AST%
TOP 10 POWER FORWARDS
95 (NC) Giannis Antetokounmpo (MIL): 30.3 PER, 64 TS%, 30 USG%, 32 AST%
88 (+1) Blake Griffin (DET): 21.7 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 27 AST%
86 (-2) Kristaps Porzingis (DAL): 20.4 PER, 54 TS%, 31 USG%, 6 AST%
85 (+2) Paul Millsap (DEN): 18.6 PER, 57 TS%, 20 USG%, 10 AST%
85 (NC) Kevin Love (CLE): 15.5 PER, 50 TS%, 31 USG%, 15 AST%
84 (-1) Julius Randle (NOP): 21.7 PER, 61 TS%, 27 USG%, 15 AST%
84 (NC) John Collins (ATL): 21.4 PER, 64 TS%, 24 USG%, 12 AST%
84 (+4) Derrick Favors (UTA): 20.5 PER, 61 TS%, 19 USG%, 7 AST%
84 (-1) Pascal Siakam (TOR): 18.6 PER, 63 TS%, 20 USG%, 13 AST%
84 (-2) Tobias Harris (LAC): 18.6 PER, 61 TS%, 23 USG%, 13 AST%
TOP 10 CENTERS
95 (NC) Anthony Davis (NOP): 30.5 PER, 60 TS%, 30 USG%, 19 AST%
92 (-1) Nikola Jokic (DEN): 27.0 PER, 59 TS%, 28 USG%, 38 AST%
92 (NC) Joel Embiid (PHI): 25.5 PER, 59 TS%, 33 USG%, 18 AST%
92 (+2) Karl-Anthony Towns (MIN): 25.6 PER, 62 TS%, 27 USG%, 16 AST%
90 (+1) Rudy Gobert (UTA): 24.5 PER, 68 TS%, 17 USG%, 11 AST%
88 (+1) Nikola Vucevic (ORL): 25.6 PER, 58 TS%, 28 USG%, 23 AST%
88 (+6) Jonas Valanciunas (MEM): 24.9 PER, 64 TS%, 26 USG%, 11 AST%
87 (+2) Jusuf Nurkic (POR): 23.0 PER, 56 TS%, 25 USG%, 18 AST%
86 (-1) LaMarcus Aldridge: 22.6 PER, 57 TS%, 27 USG%, 13 AST%
86 (NC) Andre Drummond (DET): 22.4 PER, 54 TS%, 24 USG%, 6 AST%

I hope one day Myles Turners ratings will reflect his on court production. He is a good defender ingame, but in real life he is an elite defender!

No doubt, Pacers been holding teams under 100 points when he plays he has been really going under the radar this year.

Does anybody know if they ever alter player tendencies? They are just as important

They don't, I wish they would because Luka Doncic has poor shooting tendencies and won't average a lot of points around 16/game. If you up it to 90 shot tendency then you get more in line with his actual point per game numbers around 20/game.

I'm reviewing these, are there any others that stand out?

Pretty much all rookies besides Trae Young have low shooting tendencies. I have to tweak for a majority to get semi accurate ppg numbers.
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Luka Doncic's tendencies in 2K:
Step-back 3PT: 0
Ok...
I'm working on my personal roster, editing every player's attributes and tendencies and there are loads of mistakes.

That would make sense, as rookies had no NBA data to go off of and it's largely a guess based on their college numbers. Most NBA players have little differential in their shooting tendencies from year to year.
For example, here are some of my notes on the Warriors
Kevin Durant
+5 Close / -5 3PT (example of the slight yearly variance most NBA players have)
DeMarcus Cousins
-15 Shot / -10 Mid (3rd/4th option compared to 1st/2nd w/ Pels - no reason to ever take mid w/ Curry/Durant/Klay out there)
Shaun Livingston
-15 Close (indicates fewer postups - IIRC he had highest rate among guards last season so he still takes a lot from here)
Quinn Cook
More aggressive across board (I think he's +5 everywhere)
Jordan Bell
-15 Inside / +15 Mid (this is what a substantial difference in playstyle looks like - basically the only player on the team to have one)

The Bulls are still 30th in ORTG so I mean I doubt the validity of the "top 3 offense" statement. Maybe they're top 3 in Points Scored (which is nowhere near the same as being a top 3 offense - and serves to make Lauri's numbers LESS impressive if that's the case)
I have Lauri at 84 OVR (+2) so he should be trending upward in the official roster.

Top 3 in ORTG for February

Are accessories no longer in updates?

:jpshakehe:jpshakehe:jpshakehe

Bulls have have the 3rd best offensive rating in the nba in the month of Feb . Their ortg is still bad based off how horrible they were months prior it was that bad
https://twitter.com/bulls_jay/status/1101005598802497537?s=21

I see that now looking over their schedule.
I do think that data is a bit of fool's gold because they had a very soft schedule this month (i.e. how they managed 5-5). The Bulls defense has likewise been atrocious over this stretch - they're just trading baskets and getting into shootouts with teams.
For example against the Hornets: They had a 129.9 ORTG (great right?) and an unfathomable 137.6 DRTG (WOOF)
They got checked hard in both games against the Bucks (including one w/o Giannis). The Celtics and the 32-31 Nets are the only other .500 teams they faced this month.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure they are playing much better (call it the Otto Porter effect), there's just a bit of evidence suggesting "top 3 offense" is misleading and isn't indicative of what the current roster would do over a more substantial period of time
TLDR: Lauri is playing better but still can't stop anyone.

It’s not suggesting thats who they’ going forward it’s just saying they have been over the time span which is accurate the tweet wasn’t implying anything more than that. All The Bulls 5 wins came with Otto playing , but yes they’re still bad defensively. Nobody asking for a team update was just posting stats of a player performing well tho defensively very meh

Bucks Tendency notes
Brook Lopez
The team's only center has the lowest "At Rim" shot rate of anyone on the team. He had the highest 3pt rate before they picked up Mirotic. Lopez was an All-Star interior player just a few years ago. This is all historic
Giannis Antetokounmpo
He has the highest mid-range rate on the team. Which isn't to say he takes a lot (he still takes 10x as many shots at the rim). The Bucks do not take this shot, but it's still quite the growth for a player who shot 22% as a rookie.
Khris Middleton
The only Buck with an above average "Close" (3-15 feet) rate.
Malcolm Brogdon
Actually gets to the rim at a high rate (2nd behind Giannis) and only Giannis has a lower 3pt rate.
Eric Bledsoe
Getting to the rim more than last season while also upping his 3pt rate (i.e. erasing mid-range from his game)

They been able to win without Giannis which had been huge.
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Tendencies just need to be updated slightly during the season to account for the outlier rookies and people who come on and have a strong season like Siakam from Toronto. When they don't update any tendencies it makes it really hard to play certain modes like mycareer that forces you to use the default roster.

Can we get Lauri a speed boost a lil
https://twitter.com/therendernba/status/1099523352337747969?s=21

He's a 70 Speed and isn't exactly jetting down the court here.

Is he running without a ball?
His speed with ball is a 48 , think it should be more than that . His straight line is good for a 7 footer , should be prob closer to what Siakam has which is a 67

New roster is out

I'm guessing there's no major changes since there's no new thread :y5:

Lavine an 86 and Lauri an 83 no accessory updates of course because why pay attention. Dude really dropped the ball this year compared to last year I’ve been requesting the same crap since nov and it’s March