MLB The Show 21 Stadium Creator Leaked Via SDS YouTube Page

This would be simply Amazing!

Can’t wait! Been waiting for this mode for many years... but I bet it will be a next-gen only feature... or at least that’s what I think.

I can't see the screen shot, what is it?
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OMG hot news! This is the #1 thing everyone has been asking for since MVP 2005!
A bit wary on what the source is though.

Just saw this on reddit! Big news...

The news source is literally SDS... lol

What source leaked it? Are they credible? I can't see the pic either. I take whatever is said on Twitter with a huge grain of salt
Edit* just saw that someone above said the source is SDS. Thats awesome!
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well the leaks were 100% correct about release date and Jackie Robinson Edition. and it was accidentally put in a youtube description by SDS that's how it happened

Feel bad for whatever SDS employee screwed up. But I’ve been waiting for this feature for quite some time, so I’m super excited. I would love it if there’s some sort of vault so people could create and share classic stadiums. Opens up a world of possibilities.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. But hey, awesome news on create a stadium though!
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Who knows, maybe it was "accidentally" put out there by SDS for us all to find and get excited about. This seems like too big of a feature for a whoopsie moment to happen. Wouldn't be surprised if it was done on purpose
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This is great news!
I'm a little apprehensive as to how limited it would be, but then, everyone loved MVP 2005's one and there was only like 4 field shapes right? Hopefully the dimensions and fence height are customizable to a degree. Can't wait to see what it'll be like!
Wonder if it'll be part of the Franchise stream or the next-gen stream.

What would really be cool is if you can create a stadium and upload it to the community so other people can download your stadium. That would be awesome for someone like me who isn't very creative when it comes to building stuff
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If this is true and hopefully it is, and they fix the drafting and progression in franchise this cycle, my 1 year DD venture is over and im returning to franchise

I'm hoping if it's true, that the editor isn't locked behind a stub or xp wall.
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my first hunch is this is next gen. and if true I have to reassess whether to wait till spring/summer 2022 to get a ps5.

Hopefully SDS hey don't go all EA evil empire.
FIFA career mode players had been asking for a stadium creator for years. They finally added it for FIFA 20 buuuuuuut added it only for their ultimate team mode. Their reason being license issues despite 80% of the teams in the game not having real stadiums.
SDS seem a bit smarter than that though. So hopefully this is a feature across the all modes if it is indeed in the final product.

Watch it be for only Road to The Show!
Damn people would be pissed

There would be MASSIVE competitive balance issues (the type that aren't present for a regulation soccer pitch) if it's introduced into DD so I'd be pretty surprised if it shows up there at least in year 1. That's one thing on my mind regarding this leak, and the other is whether it will be a next-gen only feature. I know cross-save exists so that would have to be taken into account if it's a next-gen only thing.

so far they're exceeding all our expectations. it's been fabulous!

If the Stadium Creator is detailed and customizable enough for people to really be able to go crazy creating unrealistic weird stadiums I would assume SDS would just put in restrictions for custom stadiums for online play. They could put caps on how much you can edit stadium dimensions, wall height, etc, to keep people from doing anything too crazy in DD.
I’m sure the devs realize that would be an issue and I don’t see why it would take an extra cycle to put something in place to prevent it. Seems like it would be a missed opportunity to leave it out of DD, I’m sure a lot of DD players would be upset.

I'd be surprised if created stadiums would be usable online unless they are made from customizable templates. If you are able to make super unique stadiums, it would take a lot of time for the other player to download prior to an online game. It wouldn't surprise me if you are given a choice of a few templates, and you can choose wall color, premade backdrop options, and where to place logos.

I wonder how customizable park dimensions will be.

I see it as a lego blocks construction kit with some variable parameters like walls distance and height. Everybody’s having the same building blocks on their own console, the information exchanged would be minimized enough to be manageable for online or through a vault.
We’ll see but devil’s in the details ;-)

Create A Stadiums usage will be similar to Create A Team/Uniform in MLB 20. No online whatsoever, entirely offline.

Do we still get to play the same interleague schedule every year in our created stadium? Will the CPU still use a fifth starter in the playoffs in our new stadium?

Hopefully it's in one day, but I'm going to be skeptical about this 'leak' for now, and my skepticism comes down to grammar.
"Fire up the new Stadium Creator mode and build the next great ball park and for the first time ever MLB The Show is available on Xbox consoles and features crossplay with PlayStation consoles."
First, I feel like they would just use the term 'Stadium Creator' and not refer to it as a mode. Next, ballpark is one word, not two. A small difference in everyday life, but I think a proofreader would catch that when putting info in promotional work. Finally, it's just one long run-on sentence. Someone would've caught that and added a comma, semicolon, or (most likely as the a stadium creator and crossplay are different topics) broken it up into separate sentences.
Maybe I'm wrong though. :nocomprende: It'd be cool if I was.

Keep in mind that you're talking about the same people that misspelled Cincinnati in the Reds stadium at release and had to fix it in a patch.

This leak was posted on the official SDS Youtube page, then removed. Hard to imagine someone was willing to lose their job to intentionally post fake info on the official page.

This is a good point. :lol:

I don't think someone at SDS intentionally posted fake info on their official video - I think there's zero chance that happened. I'm looking at it as 50/50 odds (admittedly based entirely on poor grammar) that some random person online posted a fake leak to get people worked up.

How would a random person get access to the official SDS Youtube account?

At this point, all Franchise NEEDS is 3 things (maybe 4).
1) Create-A-Stadium, which will be in.
2) Rotating Interleague Schedules
3) Expanded Minors/Rosters
*4*) Ability to make logos in photoshop and upload them into the game.
If all 3/4 of those make it in, MLB console franchise will be the greatest it has ever been.
Also, maybe this means we can move in/out fences in our custom stadiums (ala Detroit)?????

...they wouldn’t. But it’s 2021, it’s incredibly easy to fake text on an image if someone wanted to.
Again, not saying it’s definitely a fake, just saying it’s doable. Hopefully my skepticism ends up being misplaced. :waytogo:

cant wait to make a few minor lg stadiums should make playing AAA fun

It still would need a lot more than that

I skeptical that it would only be on next gen. Which would be highly disappointing considering no one can get a PS5 right now and it most likely won’t be any better by April

Haven't they already said that they can't do create a stadium stuff on PS4 due to tech limitations? I see this, if true, as next gen only.
Also, as others have said, my guess is, if true, you will not be able to upload and share your stadium. So, if some classic junkie guy were to make old Tiger Stadium, only he could use it. Hoping my assumptions are wrong, but something tells me this is not going to be as open, accessible, and robust as people hope for.
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Yeah man. I am very happy for those who have been pining for this feature. But like Y2Y saves being dropped is a non event for some here....this is a total non event for me.
Never ever cared about “create a ballpark”.
Far more interested in franchise mode logic such as the two things you mentioned.
But the logic improvements that are so desperately needed are not back of the box features that get people excited.
No doubt this is a next gen feature and also strictly offline.
The only cool thing I could see with it, is if they have more than one custom park slot and you can recreate some “classic” parks like the Astrodome, or old Candlestick or old Tiger stadium to use with potential new created classic rosters down the line.
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Wording is way too dodgy. I’m calling BS on that text.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that write up were fake but the actual feature were real as predicted.
It will be a jigsaw puzzle type creator. Called it last February: https://redtedisback.blogspot.com/2020/02/mlb-show-21-create-stadium-prediction.html
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Yeah I'm also heavy on the skepticism. There are a lot of ways this could be fake. Account hacking, angry employee trying to mess with the company, or the most likely, a person doing a mock-up and then posting it claiming they saw it in order to bring attention to their social media.
There's also the fact that they've talked specifically about this feature in the past, and how they'd have to basically not do anything else to get it done in a cycle. It's possible they've been working on it in the background for a few cycles, but asking me to believe that this feature is on the way in a year where they've added a new pitching mechanic, rebuilt fielding, actually gave franchise attention, programmed for the first time on multiple platforms, and had to do all of that while having to transition the nature of their production pipeline (read:coronavirus)?
Yeah, my skepticism is maximized.

dont put the cart before the horse buddy.

If this isn't true, this forum will implode.

Apparently when you clicked on the game to pre order it, it said on the bullet points that create a stadium was in there. It is gone now. So I’m starting to believe the rumors..
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According to whom beyond the original person who made the claim?

I dunno. If it’s true it might be really, really limited. Don’t know how possible it would be to manipulate things when collision detection is necessary.

As much as I would like to get excited about this.... by now I know better.
Honestly, I would just be happy with an actual relocation feature with about 4-6 preset stadiums to choose from. You don’t really need collision detection for the background, so if you can customize background like city scapes, stadium eccentricities I.e. big glove in SF or pool in Arizona, I would honestly be cool with that. But I feel like even that if being fairly optimistic

Wow! Great news if true hope they also offer carry over rosters or commit to franchise and or roster carry over in 2022. If so I'm good to put in the effort creating rosters in 2021.
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I would even rather have 1 unique relocation stadium based on something unique like Tampa Bay was planning. If it's just a bunch of lego pieces from the way too similar stadiums in the game, I mostly won't even bother.

Could the main reason carry over saves were not in 21 is because they had to re-write the code so you could carry over your stadium and two way player into 22?
One can dream.
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If its fake wouldn't they come out and say so right away?

Think of it like this. Why would SDS create the custom team feature and not introduce create a stadium with it or soon after?
That would he begging people to rip them for having an incomplete feature. Dev teams not named EA don’t typically do that.
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I love how unlike Facebook we have one topic on here where everyone can share their thoughts on that particular topic. Every other post on Facebook is about this stadium creator.
I hope I can make one of those artificial cookie-cutter ballparks such as Riverfront or the old Busch. And then really party like it's 1989! Now all they need to do is add fights so that I can relive that moment Frank DiPino threw at Mark Grace at Busch Stadium.

This is cool provided:
1. Ballparks can be shared in the vault
2. Ballparks can be assigned to MLB/MiLB teams and used in Franchise/RTTS
3. Templates/options allow for creation of realistic modern and classic stadia
I feel better about the first two than I do the third. I suspect it will take a few years to build up the assets and incorporate the kind of community feedback that can only be gathered once it's out in the wild.

Can finally put the Rays in a nice stadium, hopefully.
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I don't anticipate much more than what we get with Madden. Some very basic templates that we customize to some degree.
Even The Golf Club was weary of allowing users to customize actual courses like Augusta. Fortunately for golf, there are so many real courses that fly under the radar that not all can be flagged. In the past you could play Augusta as a user created course but it had to be named differently.
I'll need to be fact checked on this one because I haven't played in awhile due to my time but I believe once they were published by 2k they had to start pulling those well known courses due to licensing concerns.
I wouldn't expect to be able to create old stadiums that aren't already in the game. I expect a pretty simple, basic stadium creator.
(TO BE CLEAR: I am NOT complaining, even that is a welcome addition to me)

coulda done that in 20, relocate Tampa to Oakland Coliseum :y1:
but what would be great is if we could just blow the lid off the Trop and make it an open air park

In pga 2k22 you can play Augusta, pebble and at Andrew’s you just have to know how to find them. If there is a create a stadium in the show I doubt it will be any near the level of detail PGA 2k has

Thank you, so am I wrong in saying they’ve made it more difficult or is Augusta still playable as Magnolia? I thought I had read the gig was up on that one.
(Not meaning to take this thread off topic but I do think it’s relevant to a stadium creator in the Show)

Theyve made it more difficult forsure, but its still playable.

Social media in RTTS; inside the show; ambidextrous pitchers; rebranding your team (to a stadium with another team’s logo); contracts; morale; jump/dive buttons don’t work; check swing animations; double switch logic; quick manage mode; breaking records; increased roster sizes; player regression...
That’s all off the top of my head :)
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I just hope there are a few decent generic stadiums and backgrounds that we choose from and possibly accessorize with team logo's, colors, etc. I always rebrand the Tampa Bay Rays as the Montreal Royals and one of the biggest frustrations is choosing a stadium. Unless you overlook a lot things, there just aren't that many suitable stadiums.

I'm cautiously optimistic this year is bringing some REAL change and new evolution. Extremely excited about cross-play, xbox consoles, and the stadium creator. With new consoles added, we can hope sales will be much greater and SDS can invest more into each year's development. PUMPED!

Is this just one person providing one screen-capture or are there actually lots of people who saw this?

Just curious why do you rename them the Royals as that name is already taken by KC.

I'm not a huge fan of the Expo name and after doing some research, found out that the Montreal Royals (Royales) were a minor league baseball team in Quebec and the top farm club of then Brooklyn Dodgers. Jackie Robinson actually played 2nd base for them before going on to break the color barrier in MLB. ..... that probably answers your question. Here's were I get long winded and showcase my wikipedia nerdness. ;)
They played at Delorimier Downs/Stadium ( left 341 / center 441 / right 293 or 320, depending on reference material). And there may have been a 12' high wall surround the outfield. The Los Angeles Dodgers dropped the Royals as an affiliate in 1960. Jarry Park Stadium was built in hopes of swaying the ownership of the Montreal/Royals franchise to stay, but upon completion of the stadium, they decided to relocate to Syracuse, NY. Jarry Park would go on to become the temporary home of the Montreal Expos while Olympic Stadium was being built. At any rate, the Royals changed their name to Chiefs and subsequently went on to be affiliates of several MLB clubs - Twins, Mets, Senators, Tigers, Yankees, Blue Jays, and.....since 2008, the Washington Nationals. How's that for irony? :)
Like many baseball teams, the Royals/Expos have a fascinating, rich history that I wish MLB did more to showcase. They could make documentaries on every team and their affiliates, and have 100's, if not thousands, of hours of baseball history and storytelling.
Sorry to be so long winded! ;)

I am happy for those that wanted this and got it. Though I still question the source.
For me personally, it was not on my list. I had checked out of buying 21 because of removing year to year carryover.
If this were paired with improvements in scouting, progression/regression, draft class generation, and expanded rosters I would look at the game as a whole and have to think about it and maybe make it a late summer purchase.
Without those changes, I won't be buying. Create a stadium means nothing to me.
Again though I recognize this was a long sought feature and am happy for those that wanted it.

Watch it be for only Diamond Dynasty, like team creation...

If you have an interest in the Expos history tryout the book Up, up and Away by Jonah Keri. Very good read.
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No problem. I didn't know any of that. Thanks for sharing.

As a kid I went to a couple of Expos games and sat in the bleachers at Jerry Park (either the summer of '73 or maybe it was '74) and that place wasn't even big enough to even be considered a dump. Haha ... Rusty "Le Grand Orange" Staub and a young rising star named Gary Carter played for the team back then.
Carry on ... :wink:

this was one of Sony's best kept secrets to make it well into February before this news broke. and frankly after announcing no y2y saves for 21, they needed something big like this to put the snap back in their turtle. I know this won't make it a must buy for those that will hold off on 21 because of the y2y thing but it will be enough to get back the sales of a lot of those that haven't bought in for last 2-3-4 years. on the downside, I've been thinking to pull off a thing of this magnitude, the Studio may have also had to cut corners and drop all the fake minor league parks and classic stadiums too, in that what we may be left with are 30 real big league stadiums and this create-a-stadium too.
and I'll gladly accept

Lord I hope not. I would hate to loose those minor league parks. I love them. The only appeal for me with this rumored Creator would be to create enough parks so that there were 30 total minor league parks.
If they follow their usual pattern of a new feature being bare boned to start. I would expect nothing more than having spots for only a ball park for a rebranded team. I would be very surprised if this was a fully fleshed out addition in its first year. Not to mention all of the new legacy issues this will bring to the table. Wall Clipping issues anyone?
Still not enough to get me to buy unless at least rosters can carry over.

Last year, my DD team was the Boston Braves and I desperately wanted to play in a vintage-era Fenway park. If I can make that happen this year ... yeah ... that'd be amazing.
To get this mode operating at a new level, as others have said, they really do need to allow talented graphic designers to make logos and artwork outside of the game and import it in. I could see these really old school advertisements adorning the green monster and it would really make you feel like you were playing in the early 1900s.
To that end, I hope all 30 stadiums are editable so you can modify existing parks or build off of them.

So with you on the "Cookie Cutters" and fights. I want to play in my beloved Vet and have my all Phillies DD team have a bench clearer with an all Mets DD team.
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I’m someone that has been pining for this for years and remember devs mentioning it would only be possible for the next gen cycle so I definitely think it would be a next gen feature. I’m all for it. Everyone should be. It’s the kind of thing that makes other games take notice too. SMB would benefit from a stadium creator too. I imagine it could be a little bare bones first year but I’m hopeful. Just makes so much sense in the baseball world as stadiums really play such an important part of the actual game rather than background like in every other sport.
Please please do this right.

They’ve always said if this feature gets implemented, it would be the only major feature added so not feeling very optimistic about franchise updates if this is true. We’ll see.

this is cool.
Hopefully we can create parks similar to those in Baseball simulator and Dusty diamonds softball.
I want some really unique parks.

Would love to see them add functionality to share stadiums and auto-download community stadiums created for specific teams. This is in AO Tennis where you have the option to play in a generic stadium or in a community created stadium and it will give you the opportunity to rate the stadium after the match. That would be massive for minor league parks.

This could be kinda fun to play around with if it's well implemented. That's a big "if" though. I never understood the desire for a ballpark creator because the dev team is never going to be able to give us the same tools they use to create nice looking parks. Whatever editing tools we get will likely be quite limited. It's possible after you create a few, you start to realize they all kinda look the same, as with CAPs. It would be better if they just made more parks on their own.
Anyway, I'm happy for the people that wanted this, just hope they won't be disappointed.

I'm with ya. It's exciting that they're adding this feature in, and I really hope it's not too bare bones for the creative people out there that are good at building stuff out there. For me, I'm more excited about seeing what people create and I'd love to be able to play at other people's created ballparks. I may fiddle with creating a park myself, but I definitely won't spend tons of time doing it. Really glad they added this in though for the people that have been asking for it for ages.
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While its not a feature I foresee myself using (I may dabble and make a stadium or two simply for minor league all-star/spring training games) I am extremely happy for those who have requested/waited on this feature for years and like others, look forward to seeing what creative people can do with the tools they are given.
I'll be curious to see how its implemented as to whether its tied to DD or if you're able to use it within franchise mode, to coincide with rebranding your team.
Again, while not a feature I will utilize, I'm intrigued and look forward to hearing more about it.

And here’s a pic I found of the 1950 Delorimier Park where Robinson played.

If stadium creation is real and they combine it with the ability to pick pre-set uniforms I am going to be very excited about bringing back the Expos.

While I'll definitely create a stadium or two I'm really hopeful that creations can be shared. Some of us aren't as creative as others and would be awesome to be able to download other's creations.
I'm sure there will be since we've seen that in the past but any new feature is an unknown of course. I just can imagine, assuming the system is expansive enough to create some classic ballparks we might be in for some treats from our more creative friends.

This is.... An interesting development.
Depends on how in depth it is, or at least how much variety can be had.
If there’s a lot of variety... :o:
If not... Meh.

Will it be for PS4 as well?

Why chance this could be tied to an expansion mode in franchise?

Probably not, the developers have said before that it couldn't be done on this generation of consoles, so that is why they didn't make a stadium creator.

Almost definitely will be next gen only. Honestly, if you won’t be getting a PS5 in time for 21 you might as well just stick with 20 until you have a PS5 unless updated rosters and a fresh menu look is that important to you. Most if not all of the significant improvements to the game going forwards will be next gen only.
You’ll probably have some of the smaller changes on PS4, but it’ll be more like buying The Show 20.5 then The Show 21 that next gen players are getting. Next gen is the focus now.

I disagree, gameplay again has been a big focus point this development cycle and all that applies to the ps4 version as well.

I didn't figure create a park would be in PS4 version. I'll gladly pick up 21 if more throwback uniforms are added otherwise I'll ride the storm out with 20 and wait a couple more years till the PS5 comes down in price.

I’m gonna see your probably not and raise you a yes it will (if it is indeed coming). Despite them saying it, there is no way it was a hardware issue preventing it being done on PS4. It would simply have been opportunity cost vs benefit and it not having been part of the plan for the pre-PS5 cycle. They would have budgeted seven or so years ahead where the resources were being spent and stadium creator wouldn’t have made the cut back in 2013.
So if it is coming, there would still be a massive number of their player base who want the feature that will be stuck on PS4 through no fault of their own for the first three months of the game’s release (eg demand > supply, or loss of income since last year). It would not be well received by them if it were PS5 exclusive.
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This could bite then in the butt considering no one has a PS5

Thats a bit of a stretch, theres plenty on here who have one, myself included.
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If CAB is "Next Gen" only, that'll stink, but I'll understand why.
Either way, I don't think it's going to be as big as people think. Im thinking it's going to be a bare bones kind of editor with already implemented options. Like for example, you'll have the option of the taking one of the minor league parks and raising the fences, changing the distance to the fences, and moving the bullpen around from foul territory to behind one of the bleacher sections in the outfield. Change around the grass pattern from a diamond cut to a swirl cut, chose dirt or clay for the bases, circle or a square section around the batters box...stuff like that. Nothing to elaborate this year.
It'll be next year, MLB The Show 22 where that feature really starts to come to life.
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Remember what they did when transitioning from PS3 to PS4? PS4 had some features that PS3 didn't have, I think it will be the same this time. But that didn't happen until MLB 16, so if they plan on keeping the PS4 version around a few more years, then it may not happen right away where features are different.

I think this console generation transition is not comparable to last time.
Considering the huge shortage of chips that effects the production of so many things including the manufacturing of the next gen consoles I think they will have to keep their focus a little more on the PS4 next year than they would’ve wanted.
Pure based on the PS4 install base under consumers, there just aren’t that many PS5 in homes yet and by the looks of it that’s not gonna ramp up anytime soon...
Soooo there’s more money to me made (sold copies and then DD transactions) on PS4.

There are over 5 million ps5 sold globally and 3 million Xbox series x with numbers growing constantly. No one is buying a current gen going fwd either for the most part.
https://www.vgchartz.com/article/447408/ps5-vs-xbox-series-xs-vs-switch-launch-sales-comparison-through-week-12/
If you think there aren’t enough units to justify a next gen only feature then you seriously are kidding yourself imo

You’ll usually hear this statement from the folks who don’t have a next gen console. They want to believe that not many people have one because they couldn’t snag one
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Probably and I can understand the frustration. It certainly was a pain in the *** to get one, but I have both thankfully so all is well in my world.

Yeah but if you look just at The Show sales it gets tricky. The Show sold around a million units the past couple of years with a ps4 install base of a little over 100 million so that’s 1%. Take 1% of 8 million next gen consoles and you only come to 80.000 units. Ok by the time the game out there will be a little bit more consoles sold but still.
Don’t get me wrong I hope we will get great (graphical) improvements for the next gen consoles this year but the ps4 version will still be the most important this year sales wise.

Did you get it for retail value or did you pay over 1000 on eBay ?

Ok, so I don't want people to freak out over this, because I still think this is fake, but it is possible that the PS5 and Xbox Series made it way easier to implement a custom stadium creator.
Keep in mind that I'm more of a hardware expert, and know very little about the software side of things.
The SSD on both systems could make creating this feature easier.
On the PS4, assets that the user assembled into a custom stadium would have to be rendered and pre-baked into a large file or else load times would be insane. Lighting would either be terrible or again would have to be rendered, which would take the PS4 hours, or maybe even days, and would probably still look terrible. This stuff was possible back in the olden days because things like light sources, shadows, and reflections didn't exist. They were all faked using textures, and they'll always looked tacked on or fake, no matter how high the resolution is.
Now, on the PS5/Series, the SSD is fast enough to not have to pre-bake assets. Instead custom assets could be loaded to a small save file that just contains coordinate data. Lighting, Shadows, and Reflections don't have to be pre-rendered because both systems are capable of Ray Tracing. All you need is a light source/sources identified and the material properties of each surface (which each custom asset would contain) and the Ray Tracing system takes care of the rest.
Now just because it can, doesn't mean it will, or even should. Just because the PS5/Series CAN ray trace doesn't mean they are any good at it. For those systems to do globally ray traced illumination, it would come at a severe framerate cost. I'm pretty sure the series S would explode. There is a reason why developers are pissed it exists.
Fun tangential anecdote: apparently working on lighting is a huge bottleneck for video game development. You may or may not care about ray tracing, but developers care a LOT. Usually, lighting, shadows, and reflections had to be faked, and meticulously hand done across an entire video game. With ray tracing, all you need to do is add it your light sources, make sure all of the material values in your surfaces are correct, and the ray tracing system takes care of the rest.
TL;DR: it is possible that the new generation of consoles allowed this feature to be made thanks to ray tracing and their SSDs, but I still think this "leak" is fake.
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I got both my Series X and PS5 at retail price through GameStop. Was able to preorder both of them.
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I definitely think the feature will be better in a year two or three. But I'm not sure they'll do a barebones on it either. You might end up being right but part of my reasoning is listening to their streams the past several years. They have said many times they didn't want to just put in a feature that was bare. That's been one of the reasons they've used against putting it in on the past streams.
But we'll all find out when and if it is announced.

Also keep in mind when you compare PC spec hardware to the original PS4 that the PS4 in 2013 was basically a bottom end PC that was already outdated when it first arrived and the new consoles are well above average / top end PC's component wise. There's a pretty big performance capability gap between any of the PS4's and the PS5. Technology has come a long way since then.

Retail on both. Xbox preordered on launch and the ps5 a month later from Walmart.

Well, every other leap in console has outsold the older generation console by double if Wikipedia is correct. It’s not that the ps4 version won’t be important and it’s not whether ps5 will be a giant leap. It’s just whether this specific feature would be in both and I find it hardly unlikely due to generational constraints and devs knowing which versions typically outsell the other ones. Either way we will eventually find out.

I'm hoping they pour resources into the new-gen. I know this here there's a lot of $ to be made catering to last-gen, but having both Xbox/PS platforms should help make up for that.
There's enough new systems (especially when you combine both) and a severe lack of new-gen games. I feel like this bodes well for 21.

SDS has never disappointed me yet, I'm sure next-gen will be awesome. I can't wait until the 16th of April.

What sort of stadia would you guys make? I'd want one with 600' walls to all fields. Or perhaps no walls at all! I'd put trees in the outfield as well, just to make things interesting (there was once a cricket stadium in England with a tree in play).

I'm afraid I'd be boring and just make various spring training facilities that matched or were near the dimensions of the home team's real stadium.
I will admit though, as much as I'm glad it's gone in real life for the sake of player safety, I do miss Tal's Hill. Unique stuff like that would intregue me.
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Cookie cutter type stadiums like the Vet, Riverfront, etc etc.
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I would push the walls as far back as possible, and raise the walls to the highest point possible, and create an "Arena Baseball League" of sorts, where the only home runs are inside the parkers.

If it's a full fledge feature, which I doubt it is, I would like to try and create Ebbets Field, Old Comisky, Old Tiger Stadium, and if possible, I'd love to make some changes to some existing classic and minor league stadiums like dimensions, seating, adding upper decks, name, logo, advertising, etc.
That being said, I would be pleasantly surprised if the feature is anywhere that deep.
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Make some very pitcher friendly parks and then try the extremes and make some very hitter friendly parks. I'd probably also try to recreate RFK. I would try to build a team of sluggers in a pitcher friendly park and see how they do and try to field a team of strong pitching and some very bad offense in a hitter friendly park.
I don't play DD but I can see why custom stadiums would be a concern in DD guys would make crazy dimensions in DD and just hit bombs.

take the Trop, blow the lid off that sucker. make it open-air.
put a dome on Wrigley.
make an almost exact replica of Fenway, sans the Green Monster & push the new 9 foot high Little Monster back 30 feet.
tear down Mount Davis in Oakland.
build a new Olympic Stadium for Washington.
take all the seats out of Miami, no ''stadium'', just a ballfield set against a South Beach ocean backdrop.

Moving the light posts inside the wall and building the grandstand in RF at Forbes would be the very first thing I'd do.

I'm thinking if this feature does exist I'm not expecting anything to in depth. At best will probably get to mix and match pieces that exist from the minor league ballparks plus a few additional options to add for the outfield stands. Field dimensions will probably have to adhere to MLB stadium rules.
Obviously any existing stadium current or past won't be able to modified for licensing/legal reasons. Also think if its available for both DD and offline modes they'll limit any weird stadium adjustments to prevent online foolishness. I can see them kneecapping the feature rather than creating separate online and offline creation rules.
I'm also interested in how they handle the cityscapes. Would they just be generic buildings or if would you be able to just plunk down a created stadium within the existing cityscapes.

I can see that being the case, especially since online rocket bunts bleeds into offline. I'm really surprised they didn't fix this a fews years back by introducing a global bunt slider

All that they would need to add to curb so called online foolishness, would be a minimal and maximum wall length for down the lines and CF, as well as maximum and minimal foul territory. Besides that I don't see how this would be able to be exploited in any way. I mean yes, if allowed some folks may create stadiums that are 600 ft to dead center and 150 feet down the lines, or 150 feet to dead center and 600 feet down the lines for example. Now admittedly both those would be pretty fun to play in, but would be a major exploit. Especially for DD...
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I can guarantee they won't lock their biggest and most exciting feature behind offline modes in the first year where they are advertising cross play as a huge thing. Those 2 things don't mix, if it was only offline they would have scrapped it. It isn't that difficult to place caps on distances and wall sizes, where it's mostly just cosmetic differences.

oh man, I love playing exhibition friendlies @Polo Grounds but that 150' to center & 600' to the corners, well, I'm picturing that in my mind and now I so much badly want. you'd basically need 2 CF'ers, both with the arm of a RF'er as well. and you could stick any fool in center. heck, Dave Kingman could play CF there.
please Sony, make it so :y220:

Yeah, I love Polo Grounds for that same reason. I want even more extremes. With a big enough outfield and a 9-man team, you'd almost need to play everyone to their spray chart and put one of the infielders in the outfield.
Makes you think...what if baseball had developed with huge outfields and 5 or 6 outfielders; you could have 11 or 12 starting players. There would then be less at bats per player, making each at-bat more important. Keep rosters the same size so bench guys play regularly and pitchers have to be used as hitters more.
Come to think of it, the risk-reward of shifts could be leveraged even higher. Put 5 guys in right field to a dead-pull lefty slugger, but if he goes oppo, it's a triple or inside-the-parker. Would be more like cricket in that way (i.e., player positioning would be a big part of defense, pitcher needs to work based on his field setting).
Man, I would watch the heck out of that.

Allow me to do a fairly realistic Olympic Stadium and I'm happy.
It's not that complicated. Needs the black area in CF and ads/video wall above it.
As such:

It's not like you ever see the outside of it, which you'd never be able to make.

It's playing surface might murder knees, but that is an iconic building right there. Can't mistake it for anything else on Earth, this is Montreal's Olympic Stadium or an alien spaceship.

I just get a little peeved when all you ever see/hear from these is that your backdrops consist of:
- City
- Metropolis
Okay, those are good ones! Almost all baseball stadiums are built around or near a major city of some sort, that's good to see! I know there are some that feel like they are on the outskirts (Royals), but that's a few and far between kind of example. At least most are relatively populated, and of course have diverse versions of that same kind of populated locale.
But then they'll give you:
- Beach
- Farm
- Town
- College
- Village
- Farm
- Urban
- Plains
- Valley
- Desert
- Farm
- Mountains
- Bay
- Residential
- Slums
- Farm
- Prairie
- Knoll
- Swamp
- Hills
- Countryside
- Farm
It's like... I get having those, but you really need a lot of city diversity. I'm not saying you always need to see downtown or anything like that, but what would be really cool is if they had a pre-built area of sorts and you could place the block/area where you want it so it has a unique backdrop. At least then if they only have one or two generic cities, then everyone's look is unique.
I can't wait to get five options of farm, though. :y8:

They should give us a Space backdrop, with adjusted gravity, so we can simulate that stadium in Baseball Simulator 1.000.
Anything that would make it to the middle of the outfield normally would hit the space station out way up high in left field.

sounds like the catwalk at the Trop lol
except there might be a bigger crowd in space

That does seem like a great concept. A moon stadium. Would have to have insane dimensions otherwise every hit would be an 800 foot HR...
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Hopefully stadium creator lets me create this


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Looks great! If so, hopefully they can be uploaded to a vault. It would be fantastic to play home games somewhere other than the Oakland Mausoleum.

IMO.....you need to hope there is even a Stadium Creator to begin with.
I am now finding it stunning they are not hyping this at all. This is a back of the box feature.....and nothing has been officially said at all regarding it.
Just saying......
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Yea its really looking more and more likely that a damn good hacker got into their YT account some how and added that.

If that were the case one would think they would quell the hype before it got put of hand.
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They are....the silence is speaking loudly.
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A social media post clearing the air would speak louder though lol
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We know as much or as little as we did two weeks ago. Without additional info one way or the other, it's not more and more likely in either direction at this point.
And again, it's 2021. If someone wanted to fake a screenshot like this, they wouldn't need to hack anything.

It would, but they have no reason to alter their marketing schedule by commenting now. If it ends up being true, they get to highlight it however they plan to. If this ends up being bull****, it's not really their fault people bought into it.
In the end, all it would show is that people want a stadium creator - something we know from previous years' streams the developers are already well aware of.

Maybe it was being worked on and they expected to have it ready for '21 but couldn't meet the deadline for various reasons. It's possible the screenshot was from an earlier draft of a feature list.

Yeah I am going to go out on a tiny limb and call total BS it is even happening.
People are getting really duped here on this thing.
If I am wrong cool. People have wanted this feature for over a decade.
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Fake a screenshot and then claim SDS must have noticed the leak then removed it? Seems like a stretch to me.

I'm with you tbh. I don't realistically see any reason they wouldn't have already mentioned it if it was in and I don't really think so much of them that I don't think they'd willingly let a false rumour spread without denying it if they thought it might get a few more pre-orders or a but more hype.

Just wait for the uproar there will be when 21 is released and it's not in... Jesus

I don't know if I've shared this with you all before, but starting from about fifth grade onward I've been a fan of just drawing MLB stadiums. I would often draw existing stadiums, but every so often I would draw made up stadiums... some for specific teams.
When the Mets first announced they were going to build a new stadium (back when I was in high school), this was my proposal:

The apple is brought over from Shea, and the scoreboard is a smaller version of the original.
When the Marlins announced theirs, this was my proposal:


That Marlins one was inside a scrapbook, so it definitely faded a lot faster over time.
Basically, I'd of course like to make these for real. I know we probably couldn't get this unique, but I would love to get extra creative with these.
This is of course a pipe dream, as it seems that this might not actually be a thing yet.
EDIT: The Marlins one is so old, I just realized I have an Enron logo on the CF scoreboard. :lol:

These are great.

yessir, those are absolutely wonderful. more please & thank-you Blzr. ever do the leftfield at Fenway or the Wrigley ivy, and still have?

I drew both in the past before their renovations. I’m sure those found a recycling bin back in middle school, haha. Those seem to be the only two drawings I have left that survived anything.
I should get back into it again though. Those were always drawn “from memory,” so I would botch a bunch of things but that was kind of the lure of it: that I could do as much detail as I could without looking at any photos of them haha.

Why are people expecting such a hasty announcement from them on this?
It’s more than likely a next gen only feature and they wanted to save the feature reveals for next gen at a later date .
They’ve barely started to market the game but people want them to throw out one of their biggest features?
Unfortunately, the people who are going to be disappointed the most are PS4 and Xbox One users I feel.
Again, this is just my opinion but it seems like the most logical answer.
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I don't have an overwhelming need for a ps5 so I was going to wait till March 2022 to get one but if the Show does indeed have build-a-park, I might just accelerate the upgrade from my ps4 ASAP especially if it is next-gen only, which is what I already presumed immediately when rumor first broke