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MLB The Show 21

MLB The Show 21 Information So Far

On Monday, San Diego Studio announced MLB The Show 21 will come to PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, and for the first time ever, the game will debut on a console outside of the Sony in Microsoft’s Xbox Series X and Xbox One. The game will launch April 20 with San Diego Padres star Fernando Tatis Jr. gracing the cover.

The Tatis Jr. news should come as no surprise as the album artwork was leaked via GameStop over the weekend.

The April 20 release date is newsworthy and confirms the delay many anticipated, keeping in ‘tradition’ with San Diego Studio pushing the release of The Show with the jump to a new console generation. The delay represents a three or four week pushback from the ordinary end-of-March release window.

Alongside the cover art and release date, some new features were teased.

  • For the first time, take your Ball Player from Road To The Show and use him in other game modes. Now your Ball Player can be a 2-way star.
  • Enjoy Franchise improvements and updates to March To October which empower you to better make decisions on the future of your club.
  • Our live content now streamlines programs to provide clearer goals, faster paths to rewards based on how you play, and welcomes a new class of Legends to build your dream squad.
  • New to MLB The Show this year is gameplay styles alongside new gameplay onboarding tutorials to expand gameplay for all playstyles and skill levels.
  • New pitching mechanic
  • Complete fielding overhaul
  • New player onboarding experience
  • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future
  • DualSense and 3-D audio integration

Taking your Road to the Show player into different modes, most notably as the created player inside Diamond Dynasty, will be a very nice addition to The Show.

The loudest feature listed here, at least amongst the die-hard community, might be “franchise improvement.” That side of the community has been clamoring for a franchise overhaul for what feels like an entire console generation, so that will certainly be something to track as the game approaches. “New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future” could mean a number of things. Are we getting a revamped scouting system? Revamped contracts? Is the progression system evolving? More tools for online leagues? Time will tell.

The new pitching and fielding experiences should be a welcome tease. The community has been pretty vocal about the potential for a “perfect-perfect” pitching system. Following the introduction of “perfect-perfect” hitting in 2020, might that be the next step in user-input evolution?

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One thing not being included so far in MLB The Show 21 is year-to-year saves, a staple from the previous console generations and arguably one of the best features of any sports game out there. San Diego Studio wasn’t able to provide any new information on this subject today, though it will certainly be a hot button topic as release approaches. If year-to-year franchise and Road to the Show saves won’t transfer, the question also becomes how the Vault — with logo and roster saves — might be impacted as well.

The studio also teased the ability to play cross-gen. The potential for Sony users to square off against Microsoft owners will certainly pique the interest of the community. Of course, this perhaps also means PS4 players going against PS5 players (and vice versa for Microsoft) also matters just as much to another sect of people.

Finally, while the standard version of the game is immediately available for pre-order, more versions of the game, including the Collector’s Edition, will be explained further on February 3. The standard version is available for $59.99 on PlayStation 4. The standard version is available on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X for $69.99.

More information on the game’s features and improvement will become available through “Feature Premieres” from the studio. Like the developer streams from the past, Feature Premieres will broadcast simultaneously across Twitch, YouTube, and Facebook Live. SDS plans on releasing “around six” Feature Premieres with the first one being released in March.

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  1. These 4 things intrigue me the most...

    • New pitching mechanic
    • Complete fielding overhaul
    • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future
    • DualSense and 3-D audio integration
    Steve_OS
    These 4 things intrigue me the most...

    • New pitching mechanic
    • Complete fielding overhaul
    • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future
    • DualSense and 3-D audio integration

    Return of MLB2K's gesture-based pitching perhaps? :y11:
    bcruise
    Return of MLB2K's gesture-based pitching perhaps? :y11:

    Loved that mechanic if I’m honest. Felt like more room for error and gave me a challenge
    Steve_OS
    These 4 things intrigue me the most...

    • New pitching mechanic
    • Complete fielding overhaul
    • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future
    • DualSense and 3-D audio integration

    Complete fielding overhaul and new franchise tools are extremely intriguing to me. While I think the fielding has improved over the course of time, the outfield play, especially dives and jumps and playing the ball near the wall all need re-working/re-written/re-animated or new animations added.
    Obviously Y2Y saves is a big blow, at least to me, but depending on what the new franchise tools, and improvements to franchise as whole, turn out to be, will likely determine if I make the jump this year or wait a year to move to the next consoles of games.
    Very curious to see what the differences are feature wise between the next gen and current gen versions of the game.
    In the article, it says, “The studio also teased the ability to play cross-gen. The potential for Sony users to square off against Microsoft owners will certainly pique the interest of the community. Of course, this perhaps also just means PS4 players going against PS5 players — and the same goes for Microsoft.”
    In the FAQ on The Show website it says, “online cross-play is available across platforms (PS5 to Xbox Series X & PS4 to Xbox One) as well as within console ecosystems (PS5/PS4 and Xbox Series X/Xbox One)”
    So there will definitely be cross play, but the way it’s worded looks like PS4 can’t play with Series X and Xbox One can’t play with PS5.
    I'm really hoping some of the new tools are more sliders for franchise mode. Imagine the possibilities if they open up sliders like 2k.
    1. Trade quality, trade value, contract adjustments, progression, draft quality you name it.
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    Juzbee
    Did they specifically say no year to year saves? Or is it something that just wasn't mentioned?

    They specifically said no year to year saves in '21
    got a lot to mull over now, and with just a little more news, we'll be able to get that ''what's the first thing you're going to do?'' thread up and running for 21
    Steve_OS


    • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future

    This sounds interesting but only if they intend to bring back y2y saves. I play every pitch of all 162 plus some minor league games. In my case I wouldn't be doing much planning for the future as I wouldn't get as deep into a franchise as someone who only plays every 5th game.
    bcruise
    Return of MLB2K's gesture-based pitching perhaps? :y11:

    that would be great news. I absolutely loved the potential of that feature.
    if teh show can have that type of feature and tie it into pitcher windup, movement and release point.. man.
    no pc. so Im a bit disappointed. but I have to see the graphics on the PS5 before i make an investment for a PS5.

    Looks like no Negro League integration this year. Especially with the (probable) Jackie Robinson special edition, was hoping this was the year that we saw some integration. At least the NL uniforms with some baggy pants and such. Maybe someday..
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    Since they are doing the whole casual/sim/competitive gameplay maybe that means when using sim they'll make the guy at first actual cover first. Instead of letting the pitcher with a 3 speed rating safely reach on a shallow ball hit to the outfield.
    Okay definitely intrigued by the “complete fielding oberhaul”. I love analog pitching so I don’t really need a new way to pitch but another option to pitch is fine to have.
    I also love that they put an emphasis on integration of the Dualsense capabilities. Really curious what they have in store for us.
    Having said that I really wish they threw us a bone with a little sneak peak of how the game will look on the new console. I mean now we have to sit out whole febraury to get a taste?!
    Steve_OS
    These 4 things intrigue me the most...

    • New pitching mechanic
    • Complete fielding overhaul
    • New Franchise and MTO tools to better plan for the future
    • DualSense and 3-D audio integration

    I sure hope that New pitching mechanic means no more robotic looking deliveries/windups.
    I'm probably going out on a limb here, but I hope they expanded on the "rebranding" feature within franchise with more classic stadiums - Ebbets Field, Old Tiger Stadium, and Comiskey Park come to mind - and provide some decent generic stadiums that we can accessorize with team colors/logos, or allow us to create our own stadium. And the ability to re-align the divisions would be a great addition.
    jimmy13
    What does player onboarding mean? Like marketing to gamers?

    Probably geared towards all the Xbox newbies who have no idea what the heck to do (like myself!)
    LastActionHero
    Okay definitely intrigued by the “complete fielding oberhaul”. I love analog pitching so I don’t really need a new way to pitch but another option to pitch is fine to have.
    I also love that they put an emphasis on integration of the Dualsense capabilities. Really curious what they have in store for us.
    Having said that I really wish they threw us a bone with a little sneak peak of how the game will look on the new console. I mean now we have to sit out whole febraury to get a taste?!

    They said that the feature premieres will begin in March, so I supposed there may be a chance that they release a gameplay or teaser trailer in the weeks to come. They usually market the game pretty well so I doubt they go radio silent for a whole month.
    I did my part to help move the needle in franchise mode analytics this year. Every minute was spent in franchise and I do not believe this includes ps5.
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    Grey_Osprey
    I'm probably going out on a limb here, but I hope they expanded on the "rebranding" feature within franchise with more classic stadiums - Ebbets Field, Old Tiger Stadium, and Comiskey Park come to mind - and provide some decent generic stadiums that we can accessorize with team colors/logos, or allow us to create our own stadium. And the ability to re-align the divisions would be a great addition.

    1st yr PS5 im just hoping for Generic Stadiums that we can add our own touch and Colors too.
    Id be ok with Create A Stadium in year 2
    I agree plus I hope the face tool got some love. One simple idea is the lips are restricted and too thin. Open the up and down thickness.
    Skin tone in night games needs work.
    The ability to move the eyes nose and mouth as one unit on the face would be beneficial.
    Hopefully this tool has been improved. Can't wait.
    tabarnes19
    I'm really hoping some of the new tools are more sliders for franchise mode. Imagine the possibilities if they open up sliders like 2k.
    1. Trade quality, trade value, contract adjustments, progression, draft quality you name it.
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    tabarnes19
    I did my part to help move the needle in franchise mode analytics this year. Every minute was spent in franchise and I do not believe this includes ps5.
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    How did you get that data? Curious to see my own.
    tabarnes19
    I'm really hoping some of the new tools are more sliders for franchise mode. Imagine the possibilities if they open up sliders like 2k.
    1. Trade quality, trade value, contract adjustments, progression, draft quality you name it.
    Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk

    If the gameplay is as good and also allows us to continue to play the way we want (Clean screen, classic pitching, directional hitting, auto fielding, manual throwing, absolutely no visual aides, annoying cursors under fielders, dots on my screen while pitching...you know what I mean) and they really give us those kinds of tools (franchise mode sliders, full customization tools) then we have something here for 21.
    I am waiting for information and videos on the “revamped” franchise mode.
    Let’s hope and pray.
    If there is a developer who can come through it is SDS.
    tabarnes19
    I did my part to help move the needle in franchise mode analytics this year. Every minute was spent in franchise and I do not believe this includes ps5.
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    Damn, just checked mine. 576 all franchise! Really hoping it gets some real improvement. Super pumped despite the later date
    Armor and Sword
    Same here. Not loading. Fudge!!!

    Worked on mobile for me A&S.
    1642 hours for me...helps that my job and school got shut down.
    Baseball is Better!
    Jeffrey Smith
    Everybody here over 300 hrs...
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    I'm 40 years old, been gaming since the mid 80s. I d put the Show up there as one of the best sporting games ever. Tecmo Bowl, Fight Night, The Show, NFL 2k5, PS2 Madden and EA NHL Sega era.
    That's why I play it so much. Lol
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    53 years OLD, this month. Retired at 49 and with the pandemic have too much time on my hands at home! LOL.
    873 hours 48 minutes offline DD (I am a late participant in DD, only the past 3 or 4 iterations, so up until I recently stopped playing DD and went back to franchise it actually felt pretty fresh to me).
    O hours 1 minute Play Now. Don't even know how I did that! LOL
    151 hours 38 minutes Franchise. What I've played exclusively in every iteration of this game (and I have them all) until '17 IIRC.
    2 hours 4 minutes HR Derby. Had never played until this year. Killed a couple hours and hit some hr's with legends.
    All of the off topic irrelevance above notwithstanding, I have to say...I am actually quite heartened that '21 doesn't appear to be a cut and past of '20....I really didn't plan on buying '21 (and certainly won't be pre ordering for the first time since I can remember), but I have to admit I am actually now intrigued, at least enough to watch some of the reveals. Likely still won't buy until it's on sale and some of the early bugs are worked/patched out (if at all), but the announced changes are quite pleasantly surprising to me to be honest.
    Since I've rambled on here anyway, and I haven't posted in a while, I want to finish this by saying a sincere THANK YOU to all the content creators, slider gurus, SotS experts and everyone else who have shared their knowledge, creations, time and suggestions with me over many years of gaming and lurking on this site. '21 may be the first year ever that I don't buy, but you've made my experience with this franchise immensely more enjoyable than it would have been out of the box (no disrespect intended to SDS who put out the single best sports game around IMHO, and the last game that I actually play out of a collection that for many years included Madden, NHL, FIFA, etc). Thank you community. Thank you SDS.
    Be healthy and happy, all.
    g22
    guinness22
    53 years OLD, this month. Retired at 49 and with the pandemic have too much time on my hands at home! LOL.
    873 hours 48 minutes offline DD (I am a late participant in DD, only the past 3 or 4 iterations, so up until I recently stopped playing DD and went back to franchise it actually felt pretty fresh to me).
    O hours 1 minute Play Now. Don't even know how I did that! LOL
    151 hours 38 minutes Franchise. What I've played exclusively in every iteration of this game (and I have them all) until '17 IIRC.
    2 hours 4 minutes HR Derby. Had never played until this year. Killed a couple hours and hit some hr's with legends.
    All of the off topic irrelevance above notwithstanding, I have to say...I am actually quite heartened that '21 doesn't appear to be a cut and past of '20....I really didn't plan on buying '21 (and certainly won't be pre ordering for the first time since I can remember), but I have to admit I am actually now intrigued, at least enough to watch some of the reveals. Likely still won't buy until it's on sale and some of the early bugs are worked/patched out (if at all), but the announced changes are quite pleasantly surprising to me to be honest.
    Since I've rambled on here anyway, and I haven't posted in a while, I want to finish this by saying a sincere THANK YOU to all the content creators, slider gurus, SotS experts and everyone else who have shared their knowledge, creations, time and suggestions with me over many years of gaming and lurking on this site. '21 may be the first year ever that I don't buy, but you've made my experience with this franchise immensely more enjoyable than it would have been out of the box (no disrespect intended to SDS who put out the single best sports game around IMHO, and the last game that I actually play out of a collection that for many years included Madden, NHL, FIFA, etc). Thank you community. Thank you SDS.
    Be healthy and happy, all.
    g22

    Love the positivity! Too much hate and distrust in the world today. I'm happy that we can all rally around our love of MLBTS. We may have our small disagreements here and there on Operation Sports, but it's because we love and care for this series, and wish for the best future with the it's releases. Let's remember this is why we're all here.
    Also, congratulations to all Xboxers! You'll finally be able to enjoy (in many people's opinions here) the best all-around sports simulation title by far.
    :cheers:
    Armor and Sword
    If the gameplay is as good and also allows us to continue to play the way we want (Clean screen, classic pitching, directional hitting, auto fielding, manual throwing, absolutely no visual aides, annoying cursors under fielders, dots on my screen while pitching...you know what I mean) and they really give us those kinds of tools (franchise mode sliders, full customization tools) then we have something here for 21.
    I am waiting for information and videos on the “revamped” franchise mode.
    Let’s hope and pray.
    If there is a developer who can come through it is SDS.

    Didn't you already proclaim that you ARE NOT buying? lol
    jimmy13
    What does player onboarding mean? Like marketing to gamers?

    Onboarding a device generally means when a device joins a network for the first time. So I would assume it’s for when somebody starts up the game for the first time and it goes through the ‘choose your favourite team, are you experienced, here’s a few cards to get started’ bit.
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    lemarflacco
    Didn't you already proclaim that you ARE NOT buying? lol

    Yeah I am not buying it for the PS4.
    Easy decision with Y2Y gone.
    Whenever I move on to PS5 hopefully the game is getting big improvements that would inspire me to walk away from 1000’s of hours from my carryover file.
    Remains to be seen. May not happen till 2022 or 2023 who knows.
    But I love the series and I am a positive person.
    Just because I am passing on it for the current console does not mean I can’t have opinions and share thoughts.
    Lighten up.
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    Collectors Edition information coming today.
    Really looking forward to seeing what it entails (know you get both current/next gen versions), but wondering what else it has and really really really hoping its the Jackie Robinson Edition that has been floating around and even more, really hope that its not GameStop Exclusive.
    countryboy
    Collectors Edition information coming today.
    Really looking forward to seeing what it entails (know you get both current/next gen versions), but wondering what else it has and really really really hoping its the Jackie Robinson Edition that has been floating around and even more, really hope that its not GameStop Exclusive.

    dang! I didn't think that the Collectors Edition would be a GameStop exclusive. Now I'm worried. lol. but I know that MLBTS and GameStop have had a special relationship over the past half decade or so. guess we'll find out soon enough. I always buy from Best Buy personally
    There's information overload right now, so I may have missed it, but ....
    If I start a franchise on the PS4 version of MLB 21 will I be able to continue that franchise on the PS5 when I upgrade later?
    LowerWolf
    There's information overload right now, so I may have missed it, but ....
    If I start a franchise on the PS4 version of MLB 21 will I be able to continue that franchise on the PS5 when I upgrade later?

    I've been wondering this myself and thus far, unless I missed it, I have not seen this question answered/addressed.
    metoposcopy
    Does anyone think there will be difference in graphics between the previous Gen and next Gen Consoles?
    I will buy a new XBox Series X if this is the case

    Well if you by history" PS2 to PS3 to PS4 I would say yes but sadly not as big of a face lift as most here really want :(
    But I am still leaving out hope that this time things will be very different in a good way thanks to the amazing power of the PS5 and X Box Series X.
    Seriously though how can anyone of us long timers of this great game not be very disappointed if we don't at the very least get 100% brand new Grass,Dirt and player models just to name a few things that really need updating!!!!
    “For the first time, take your Ball Player from Road To The Show and use him in other game modes. Now your Ball Player can be a 2-way star.”
    Does this mean they fixed 2-way players?
    Fingers crossed!
    The Kid 24
    I think it's very likely we don't hear anything until March now.... Hope I'm wrong tho.

    I think I said it earlier in this thread (or maybe one of the others about 21), but I'd be a little surprised if they went full radio silent until the first stream.
    I'm not that sure if we will see the normal marketing videos--often times they release those along with their streams so even if we do get "Gamestop Mondays" (or whatever it was called) those probably wouldn't happen till March, but I think there's a decent chance we get a trailer of some sort some time in February
    I don't know if this has been posted or not (so much discussion on various topics in different threads), but here is a brief overview of the new gameplay styles:
    New to MLB The Show this year is gameplay styles alongside new gameplay onboarding tutorials to expand gameplay for all playstyles and skill levels.
    Casual: An easier, fun, pick-up and play experience with an emphasis on learning the game.
    Simulation: Authentic MLB experience that plays true to player and team ratings. A balance between stick skills and player attributes.
    Competitive: User stick skills reign supreme, greater emphasis on user input over player ratings. Our new online H2H default.
    countryboy
    I don't know if this has been posted or not (so much discussion on various topics in different threads), but here is a brief overview of the new gameplay styles:

    Thank you for posting I had not seen that. I've always been a hybrid player, but heavily leaning towards simulation. Looks like that's what I'll be picking (If I get 21).
    All of this is very intriguing. Along with improvements, I’m hoping they don’t remove any features from current offerings such as sounds of the show.
    That happened in MLB 14 going from PS3 to PS4 cause PlayStation didn’t allow the PS4 to read mp3 files.I’m thinking this won’t be an issue but it’ll be certain come April.
    That feature alone could be decisive in me going next gen or not. It just adds so much immersion to the game.
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    I'm pumped to see what they do for the Duelsense on the Ps5.
    Madden 21 on that thing is so cool. Between the QB cadence and tackle sounds coming from the controller to the haptic feedback when pulling turbo. Amazing.
    hockeyyt988
    All of this is very intriguing. Along with improvements, I’m hoping they don’t remove any features from current offerings such as sounds of the show.
    That happened in MLB 14 going from PS3 to PS4 cause PlayStation didn’t allow the PS4 to read mp3 files.I’m thinking this won’t be an issue but it’ll be certain come April.
    That feature alone could be decisive in me going next gen or not. It just adds so much immersion to the game.
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    I don't see how SOTS wouldn't be in considering that you can use it on The Show 20 with the PS5.
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    Anyone think we get a mlb the show advertisement for the superbowl this year?
    If so do you think it is just that Tatis video or will we get a 3 second glimpse of what it will look like on the next gen systems?
    If i remember in years past there might have been a year or two we have got an commercial during a superbowl.
    zbundy3
    Anyone think we get a mlb the show advertisement for the superbowl this year?
    If so do you think it is just that Tatis video or will we get a 3 second glimpse of what it will look like on the next gen systems?
    If i remember in years past there might have been a year or two we have got an commercial during a superbowl.

    Nope not a chance!!!
    zbundy3
    Anyone think we get a mlb the show advertisement for the superbowl this year?
    If so do you think it is just that Tatis video or will we get a 3 second glimpse of what it will look like on the next gen systems?
    If i remember in years past there might have been a year or two we have got an commercial during a superbowl.

    Nope not a chance!!!
    Has SCEA ever talked about why they don't allow image uploads for logos? I was so stoked when the DD uniform creation suite was introduced, but I feel like I've been waiting on it to expand to a CAT feature, or expansion feature, and include logo uploads. Call me lazy or call me unartistic, but having to create logos from scratch, piece by piece really limits the use of the suite for me.
    I feel like those things would really unlock the potential of that suite, but the fact that it's been relatively unchanged for the past couple years and doesn't have these things, makes me wonder if they're not allowed for some reason?
    I can't help but reference NBA 2k's expansion and uniform suite and it's amazing. It's nearly limitless.
    beau21
    Has SCEA ever talked about why they don't allow image uploads for logos? I was so stoked when the DD uniform creation suite was introduced, but I feel like I've been waiting on it to expand to a CAT feature, or expansion feature, and include logo uploads. Call me lazy or call me unartistic, but having to create logos from scratch, piece by piece really limits the use of the suite for me.
    I feel like those things would really unlock the potential of that suite, but the fact that it's been relatively unchanged for the past couple years and doesn't have these things, makes me wonder if they're not allowed for some reason?
    I can't help but reference NBA 2k's expansion and uniform suite and it's amazing. It's nearly limitless.

    And 2K takes it all away from guys who do not move on to the next game. Once they shut the servers down you lose all of it. You can’t save it offline.
    It is ridiculous.
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    Archie56
    I don't see how SOTS wouldn't be in considering that you can use it on The Show 20 with the PS5.
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    Ya me neither. The reason it didnt make the jump initially last gen switch was because the PS3 handled SOTS externally from the game. You imported the mp3s to the PS3 then youd go in game and edit and assign.
    PS4 didnt have the ability to import mp3s into it which threw a huge monkey wrench into the plan.
    Sony San Diego came up with the idea of importing them from in the game and into the app not the PS4s operating system. That fixed any issue and I cant see any reason why that would change.
    CujoMatty
    Ya me neither. The reason it didnt make the jump initially last gen switch was because the PS3 handled SOTS externally from the game. You imported the mp3s to the PS3 then youd go in game and edit and assign.
    PS4 didnt have the ability to import mp3s into it which threw a huge monkey wrench into the plan.
    Sony San Diego came up with the idea of importing them from in the game and into the app not the PS4s operating system. That fixed any issue and I cant see any reason why that would change.

    Amen Cujo. If any guy was to reply and calm that fear, it would be you. Your work is fantastic and have brought lifelike ballpark ambience to this awesome game we all love. Much appreciated.
    I had a feeling it wouldn't be an issue cause I saw in the SOTS thread others reply they have the PS5 and have been able to import SOTS. I also know that sometimes developers don't tell you something until after launch date haha.
    Thanks for the clarity as I didn't know that's how it worked. Looking forward to using your awesome SOTS in MLB 21 and beyond!
    Armor and Sword
    And 2K takes it all away from guys who do not move on to the next game. Once they shut the servers down you lose all of it. You can’t save it offline.
    It is ridiculous.
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    Yea that always bugged me that it can’t be saved offline.
    The Kid 24
    Mills said on Twitter, SDS removed the "revamped" phrase on preorder page.
    The PS store doesn't have revamped any more so far the Xbox store still shows "revamped". Maybe somebody was like "oh crap were making the over promising mistakes EA does quick take it down." The potential for a revamped franchise was the only thing keeping y2y saves fans sort of calm.
    *Movie trailer voice* On the horizon ladies and gentlemen a console war is brewing did xbox ruin The Show, will the community fracture. Will the debut of a multi-platform The Show be the series downfall! Coming soon!
    jrnlgrn
    The PS store doesn't have revamped any more so far the Xbox store still shows "revamped". Maybe somebody was like "oh crap were making the over promising mistakes EA does quick take it down." The potential for a revamped franchise was the only thing keeping y2y saves fans sort of calm.
    *Movie trailer voice* On the horizon ladies and gentlemen a console war is brewing did xbox ruin The Show, will the community fracture. Will the debut of a multi-platform The Show be the series downfall! Coming soon!

    LOL funny stuff man.
    Yeah it is gone on the PS blog.
    Hmmmmmmm.
    The Kid 24
    Mills said on Twitter, SDS removed the "revamped" phrase on preorder page.
    Dang. That's pretty strange. Probably just as silly to overreact to it now while we still hardly know anything about the game as it was to make assumptions about what "Revamped" meant when they first posted it, but still strange
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    So is the thought we will get Y2Y back starting with ‘21?
    If so, I can make that sacrifice. I’ll have to do some work with the rosters to get ‘my team’ back... but it will be okay.
    swatkins1978
    So is the thought we will get Y2Y back starting with ‘21?
    If so, I can make that sacrifice. I’ll have to do some work with the rosters to get ‘my team’ back... but it will be okay.

    It’s more the hope I think at this point
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    Hope RTTS isn’t the same pre draft games and cut bad scenes re-printed crap. It’s like they put no time into it. Not buying it until a couple days after release.
    CBoller1331
    Dang. That's pretty strange. Probably just as silly to overreact to it now while we still hardly know anything about the game as it was to make assumptions about what "Revamped" meant when they first posted it, but still strange
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    Revamped is a strong word. And can imply big changes.
    “Updates” to franchise mode is a different perception than revamped.
    March we will find out what all this means.
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    Revamped was removed because right as they were about to finalize the code, someone mistakenly hit the delete button
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    I know it was never explicitly stated, but to throw preorders up and have franchise "revamped" and then pull it is not a good business practice.
    I am sure that the wording was ran by every suit possible. To change that out now is not a good look.
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    Franchise is going to be what it was going to be regardless of what adjectives they use to describe it.
    We will know what it involves in the coming weeks and people can determine then if the game is still worth keeping/earning a preorder or not.
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    One thing I'm really hoping they update, is that god awful looking 2d baseball when you're batting and there's a foul at the plate or a pitch in the dirt. It's just an eyesore especially when the rest of the game is so detailed and beautiful. And let's hope the dirt and the grass get updated too. I'm so excited though for '21. Got the Jackie Robinson collectors edition pre-ordered for both my PS5 and my Series X.
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    beau21
    Has SCEA ever talked about why they don't allow image uploads for logos? I was so stoked when the DD uniform creation suite was introduced, but I feel like I've been waiting on it to expand to a CAT feature, or expansion feature, and include logo uploads. Call me lazy or call me unartistic, but having to create logos from scratch, piece by piece really limits the use of the suite for me.
    I feel like those things would really unlock the potential of that suite, but the fact that it's been relatively unchanged for the past couple years and doesn't have these things, makes me wonder if they're not allowed for some reason?
    I can't help but reference NBA 2k's expansion and uniform suite and it's amazing. It's nearly limitless.

    I don’t think it was explicitly stated but it’s a guarantee it has never gotten past the idea phase. You only have to see some of the CAP names and team names in DD to realise how image uploads would be abused and potentially harm the E classification.
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    countryboy
    Franchise is going to be what it was going to be regardless of what adjectives they use to describe it.
    We will know what it involves in the coming weeks and people can determine then if the game is still worth keeping/earning a preorder or not.
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    Exactly. I'm not afraid of what the changes in wording mean. It's SDS that needs to be afraid that I won't find the changes worthy of my time. If I'm stuck playing 20 in 2021, I'd hardly call that a great loss.
    Yeah, I'm going to be vocal if the hardcore franchise crowd is ignored and marginalized yet again, but again it's SDS that should fear that, not me. What will be, will be, and I'm feeling calm about whatever 21 brings.
    countryboy
    Franchise is going to be what it was going to be regardless of what adjectives they use to describe it.
    We will know what it involves in the coming weeks and people can determine then if the game is still worth keeping/earning a preorder or not.

    If there ever was a year not to pre-order the game, this is the year.
    I have bought the game every year since MLBTS 12 and for years I have been saying "what I really should do is play last years game this year and then upgrade to this years game in the fall when it goes on sale during something like a Black Friday sale". But I never do it because SDS has always made some sort of change to their game that interested me. But not this year. The only change that has me curious is what they have done to fielding. Other than that, there is nothing new in MLBTS 21 that interests me coupled with the fact that SDS has purposely made my existing MLBTS 20 RTTS players obsolete outside of MLBTS 20. No this is the year to sit on the fence and wait to see what is actually in the game versus buying all the media hype.
    My993C2
    If there ever was a year not to pre-order the game, this is the year.
    I have bought the game every year since MLBTS 12 and for years I have been saying "what I really should do is play last years game this year and then upgrade to this years game in the fall when it goes on sale during something like a Black Friday sale". But I never do it because SDS has always made some sort of change to their game that interested me. But not this year. The only change that has me curious is what they have done to fielding. Other than that, there is nothing new in MLBTS 21 that interests me coupled with the fact that SDS has purposely made my existing MLBTS 20 RTTS players obsolete outside of MLBTS 20. No this is the year to sit on the fence and wait to see what is actually in the game versus buying all the media hype.
    In all fairness, we don't have any real information to base a decision to buy or not buy this year's game. No features have been officially announced. We'll see what is going on with this year's game in March.
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    dbekoscke
    In all fairness, we don't have any real information to base a decision to buy or not buy this year's game. No features have been officially announced. We'll see what is going on with this year's game in March.
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    I was going to say the same thing. We don't really know much at this point to say "oh they haven't made any significant changes". Now by the end of March, we should definitely have a better idea. I'm excited no matter what.
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    dbekoscke
    In all fairness, we don't have any real information to base a decision to buy or not buy this year's game. No features have been officially announced. We'll see what is going on with this year's game in March.

    Yes of course once the developer streams surface, more will be known. But the developer streams are very controlled. They choose what they want us to see and what they want to hide. It won't be until the public actually has their hands on the game in late April when we will have a true understanding of what is and is not in the game. If people choose to pre-order the game in March during/after the streams, then at least then they will be making a somewhat educated choice. But to pre-order it now based on media hype makes little sense, at least to me. The only thing ordering now does is protect you against possible hyper-inflation to our fiat currencies. But when hyper-inflation hits (and it will hit sometime in the not too distant future), the price of a computer baseball game will be the least of our worries. :y3:
    My993C2
    Yes of course once the developer streams surface, more will be known. But the developer streams are very controlled. They choose what they want us to see and what they want to hide. It won't be until the public actually has their hands on the game in late April when we will have a true understanding of what is and is not in the game. If people choose to pre-order the game in March during/after the streams, then at least then they will be making a somewhat educated choice. But to pre-order it now based on media hype makes little sense, at least to me. The only thing ordering now does is protect you against possible hyper-inflation to our fiat currencies. But when hyper-inflation hits (and it will hit sometime in the not too distant future), the price of a computer baseball game will be the least of our worries. :y3:
    I pre-ordered two copies of the game, not bc of media hype, but bc SDS has always put out an incredible game of baseball. In my opinion, they put out the best sports game out of them all and they have my trust and deserve my money. And I can't ever recall them "hiding" anything while promoting the game. Just my two cents
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    Assuming SDS properly does the casual, sim and competitive game-play styles that might be one of the bigger additions this year.
    Trends and tactics change in baseball but the core of what the sport is doesn't change on a whim like a summer breeze. They could pretty much nail sim straight away and we would not have to worry if a patch broke something all the time. No longer being subject to the game-play needs of DD/online players would be great. Of course this assumes they approach it correctly and don't apply changes across the board based on one group
    Offline/Franchise players aren't worried about someone exploiting the games mechanics. So if they truly separate out the different styles and only adjust each according the feedback of the respective groups within the community that would be a major positive.
    I’ll never understand why people are so concerned with how someone else spends their money.
    If you don’t want to preorder now then don’t. But to insinuate that those who preorder now are “uneducated” is bush league.
    And you can make your point while leaving the political bs at the door
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    Archie56
    I can't ever recall them "hiding" anything while promoting the game. Just my two cents

    You don't remember when they turfed season mode? It wasn't that long ago and we were never told about this during the developer streams. It was only after the game dropped when the public realized what SDS had done.
    I have plenty of other examples of features that SDS took out of the game and/or altered and never told us about it ahead of time. One other example is how they changed the dugout camera view in MLBTS 20 (used in MoM as well as RTTS games when you play complete games) or the year when they release MoM games where the pitchers only threw strikes, they never threw balls. It took them close to two months to get around to fixing that issue.
    Don't get me wrong, MLB The Show is a great game. But SDS is not immune from making some less than popular choices and hiding these change. At least this year they warned us ahead of time that they turfed the year-to-year carry over saves in Franchise and RTTS modes. Imagine what would happen if we had to wait to the release date to find this out. Yikes ...
    My993C2
    You don't remember when they turfed season mode? It wasn't that long ago and we were never told about this during the developer streams. It was only after the game dropped when the public realized what SDS had done.
    I have plenty of other examples of features that SDS took out of the game and/or altered and never told us about it ahead of time. One other example is how they changed the dugout camera view in MLBTS 20 (used in MoM as well as RTTS games when you play complete games) or the year when they release MoM games where the pitchers only threw strikes, they never threw balls. It took them close to two months to get around to fixing that issue.
    Don't get me wrong, MLB The Show is a great game. But SDS is not immune from making some less than popular choices and hiding these change. At least this year they warned us ahead of time that they turfed the year-to-year carry over saves in Franchise and RTTS modes. Imagine what would happen if we had to wait to the release date to find this out. Yikes ...
    SDS has done a ton more things right then they have wrong. You are correct about season mode, as I had forgotten about that. But their track record still speaks for itself. I understand, you don't want to preorder yet which is completely fine, but for me, like I said before, they have my trust and the fact that they put out the best sports game year in and year out, earns my preorder. I'm not uneducated, I have years worth of playing this game to know what I'm getting.
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    I understand that this does not pertain exclusively to MLB The Show, but I hate the notion of pre-order being available before even a screenshot of the game is available.
    dbekoscke
    In all fairness, we don't have any real information to base a decision to buy or not buy this year's game. No features have been officially announced. We'll see what is going on with this year's game in March.
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    I'm sure plenty of people learned what they needed to know in holding off on 21 with carry-overs not possible from 20 to 21. I'm not in that number but that's definitely an understandable dealbreaker IMO
    Archie56
    SDS has done a ton more things right then they have wrong. You are correct about season mode, as I had forgotten about that. But their track record still speaks for itself. I understand, you don't want to preorder yet which is completely fine, but for me, like I said before, they have my trust and the fact that they put out the best sports game year in and year out, earns my preorder. I'm not uneducated, I have years worth of playing this game to know what I'm getting.

    It's not my intention to get into a pissing match with anyone here and I am 100% wrong if folks think I am telling them they should not pre-order now (which I guess I did a few posts ago). Also if some here already have a PS5 (or the equivalent XBox console), then it is perfectly understandable that they would want to pick up MLBTS 21 for their new console. But I don't fall into that category, plus I have invested hundred and hundreds and hundreds of hours into my RTTS players (some of which were started in MLBTS 17). So now that I know that I will not be able to play with them in MLBTS 21, buying a new console (if I could even find one), buying a new TV/monitor to support the enhanced graphics of the new consoles and then buying MLBTS 21 this spring makes little sense to me especially with the economic #### show the world is in these days. Plus I am not so sure I want to wait until the end of April. Spring Training in MLBTS 20 for the 2021 season is set to start in a little over two weeks from now.
    jrnlgrn
    Assuming SDS properly does the casual, sim and competitive game-play styles that might be one of the bigger additions this year.

    Trends and tactics change in baseball but the core of what the sport is doesn't change on a whim like a summer breeze. They could pretty much nail sim straight away and we would not have to worry if a patch broke something all the time. No longer being subject to the game-play needs of DD/online players would be great. Of course this assumes they approach it correctly and don't apply changes across the board based on one group

    Offline/Franchise players aren't worried about someone exploiting the games mechanics. So if they truly separate out the different styles and only adjust each according the feedback of the respective groups within the community that would be a major positive.

    This all sounds great in theory. But it has not worked for Madden (in fact it has failed miserably) and to lesser degree it is plaguing the NBA 2K series as well.
    If anyone can pull it off it is SDS. They have earned that from me as well.
    I hope it works out. But for me and some others who are sticking with the PS4 Pro and are immersed in our carry over franchises......it was a deal breaker to pick this game up at release.
    I am open minded. I love the Show Franchise and if the game is knocking peoples socks off (people that I trust here on OS) who say’s we cannot pick it up year end to have some fun with a new franchise.
    But I am far to invested in my Yankees chise. And that is cool. I can pass on a game when I have a version that is simply incredible like 20.
    We are extremely curious to see what these “updates” as they now term it, to franchise mode are.
    I think most people here who pre-order the game do it because of trust in SDS and excitement every year. I think the game generally lives up to expectations year after year after year.
    But let's not forget, it come March, we are underwhelmed or disappointed with this year's title, we can cancel our pre-orders.
    We're not locked into anything until the game ships. No worries!
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    I preordered the Jackie Robinson deluxe edition because whether I play the game or not, I want that in my collection.
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    I do t understand the pre order debate and ect ire ordering is a thing it’s not the 1990s where it sells out you can literally by the game and download at midnight that night. Pre order 2 months in advance I don’t get it
    ninertravel
    I do t understand the pre order debate and ect ire ordering is a thing it’s not the 1990s where it sells out you can literally by the game and download at midnight that night. Pre order 2 months in advance I don’t get it

    Couple of things
    1) If there are collectors editions and you want one then it’s best to preorder because they are typically limited print
    2) there are at times perks for preordering the game
    3) if you preorder at GameStop then you can treat it like lawayay and make “payments” until the game releases
    4) if you pre order digitally then it downloads prior to release date so it’s ready to play at midnight on release
    5) if you live out like I do, preorder and ship for release day is beneficial because I don’t have to drive into town to pickup
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    countryboy
    Couple of things
    1) If there are collectors editions and you want one then it’s best to preorder because they are typically limited print
    2) there are at times perks for preordering the game
    3) if you preorder at GameStop then you can treat it like lawayay and make “payments” until the game releases
    4) if you pre order digitally then it downloads prior to release date so it’s ready to play at midnight on release
    5) if you live out like I do, preorder and ship for release day is beneficial because I don’t have to drive into town to pickup
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    All true, but none of those things really make any sense as to why anyone would pre-order now, before any information has been released, instead of about 1 week before the game comes out. There is, as far as I can tell, no reason to pre-order months in advance?
    It is just risk without any reward as far as I can tell. (although I'm sure most are happy to buy whatever SDS release so it's not really a "risk" to them) It's other peoples money so they can do what they want with it, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me to buy something blind, when you can wait for more information at zero cost in order to make a more informed decision (while also not tying up money months in advance for no reason)
    I’m done
    Some of you guys.....wow!
    Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?
    Damn
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    countryboy
    I’m done
    Some of you guys.....wow!
    Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?
    Damn
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    I'm with you man. I don't get it. If I want to preorder 2 months in advance, that's my business. It's not hard to figure out what kind of a product SDS is going to put out. It's baseball. And they've been doing it at a high level for many many years. I get it, we all have differing opinions, but some of you seem to have an agenda with those of us that like to preorder. That's the last thing I'll say on this.
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    countryboy
    I’m done
    Some of you guys.....wow!
    Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?
    Damn
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    I'd like to suggest getting off "to pre-order or not to pre-order" topic and yes I was wrong yesterday for briefly suggesting people should not pre-order at this time. I am a Libertarian "live and let live" sort of person and what I did yesterday without much thought on my part was not very Libertarian. With that said, some of us have valid concerns about what we have been told to date about the 2021 iteration of the game and we do want to know more details before we commit to buying it. Yes MLB The Show is a great game, but SDS should not be immune from criticism when they do wrong. :wave:
    Oh and I was playing a RTTS game yesterday with one of my pitchers and was quickly reminded at how useless bunting is in MLBTS 20 when I was faced with a sacrifice bunting scenario when my pitcher came to bat. I guess I forgot as it had been a couple of months since I last played with one of my pitchers. I got to tell you, buying MLBTS 21 might be worth it if SDS were to actually pay one ounce of attention to the offline users and fix bunting in their game. I may have been wrong for suggesting pre-ordering at this time may not be the thing to do, but I am not wrong in telling offline users, don't bother trying to bunt because bunting is a waste of time in MLBTS 20. :y1:
    ....while also not tying up money months in advance for no reason.

    I've found the best way for me personally is to get whatever bills I'm expecting paid and out of the way ASAP. I'd also like to believe if someone is hard up for $10 in February, they'd spendthe rest of their money wiser come April, than on a video game no matter even if it's the best video game in the history of forever. but realistically, I know that isn't true.
    I've also been playing the Show long enough to know that even if at the most it's a roster update (and that's never been the case for me, I've always enjoyed the yearly release, whatever else new was added), I know I'm getting my money's worth.
    on the other foot, there have been other games that got great reviews but after I bought and started playing, I'd be done with it after a month because it just didn't do it for me. different strokes and all that jazz, makes the world go round lol
    Caulfield
    I've found the best way for me personally is to get whatever bills I'm expecting paid and out of the way ASAP. I'd also like to believe if someone is hard up for $10 in February, they'd spendthe rest of their money wiser come April, than on a video game no matter even if it's the best video game in the history of forever. but realistically, I know that isn't true.
    I've also been playing the Show long enough to know that even if at the most it's a roster update (and that's never been the case for me, I've always enjoyed the yearly release, whatever else new was added), I know I'm getting my money's worth.
    on the other foot, there have been other games that got great reviews but after I bought and started playing, I'd be done with it after a month because it just didn't do it for me. different strokes and all that jazz, makes the world go round lol

    I pay all my bills as they come in also and not wait. That way I know what I got for other things.
    countryboy
    I’m done
    Some of you guys.....wow!
    Is it really that ****ing bothersome to you that you have to try to educate those who choose to preorder now when it literally has no ****ing consequence or effect on your life?
    Damn
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    This is where your wrong I hate when
    People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
    “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect
    So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
    It won’t effect you.
    ninertravel
    This is where your wrong I hate when
    People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
    “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect
    So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
    It won’t effect you.

    You realize there are separate teams that work on DD and Franchise, don't you?
    Scott
    You realize there are separate teams that work on DD and Franchise, don't you?

    Do you realize there is basically one guy who works on franchise and several who work on DD
    I mean are you trying to imply that franchise has received the same attention as Diamond Dynasty?
    I am not pounding sand about franchise mode. I happen to think it is very good for “me”.
    But let’s not sit here and imply the same amount of resources have gone into franchise mode.
    Lets not insult our intelligence on this particular subject.
    They added small things for a few years to franchise mode:
    Radio Show
    Player Morale
    Player quirks
    Phases
    3 presentation themes (then down to two in MLB 20)
    Quality of life improvements to Sounds of the Show
    But the amount of attention Diamond Dynasty has gotten over the same cycle is two fold.
    And I expected that. It is a revenue producer.
    So yeah the resources have overwhelmingly been allocated to online (server overhaul) and Diamond Dynasty vs Franchise mode.
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    Armor and Sword
    Do you realize there is basically one guy who works on franchise and several who work on DD
    I mean are you trying to imply that franchise has received the same attention as Diamond Dynasty?
    I am not pounding sand about franchise mode. I happen to think it is very good for “me”.
    But let’s not sit here and imply the same amount of resources have gone into franchise mode.
    Lets not insult our intelligence on this particular subject.
    They added small things for a few years to franchise mode:
    Radio Show
    Player Morale
    Player quirks
    Phases
    3 presentation themes (then down to two in MLB 20)
    Quality of life improvements to Sounds of the Show
    But the amount of attention Diamond Dynasty has gotten over the same cycle is two fold.
    And I expected that. It is a revenue producer.
    So yeah the resources have overwhelmingly been allocated to online (server overhaul) and Diamond Dynasty vs Franchise mode.
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    I was under the impression it was more than one person. I'm definitely not saying that Franchise has gotten the same attention, because it hasn't. I hope that changes this year.
    We went from people going back and forth about pre orders to people talking about franchise v. DD
    I'm confused whats happening in this thread.
    Scott
    I was under the impression it was more than one person. I'm definitely not saying that Franchise has gotten the same attention, because it hasn't. I hope that changes this year.

    Yeah basically one guy. Which hey....if that is all they can do it is what it is.
    I think they have added (slowly) almost every year.
    For 20 they greatly enhanced the AI in fantasy drafts. A very underrated improvement for those who like to do fantasy draft franchises (yours truly).
    Let’s hope they do make a leap with even more features for franchise mode on the PS5.
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    ninertravel
    This is where your wrong I hate when
    People say “stop complaining about what others do doesn’t effect you” the fact that sports game make millions off DD and ultimate team modes is why it effects us because people buy it or ore order in months in advance for the DD extra and
    “Cards” so they won’t work on franchise ect
    So enough of the “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you nonsense” that’s like saying anti maskers don’t effect you if you wear a mask who cares what’s others do
    It won’t effect you.

    Did you just compare the effects of disregarding prevention of an infectious disease transmission to preordering a video game? Brah. Lol.
    Keirik
    Did you just compare the effects of disregarding prevention of an infectious disease transmission to preordering a video game? Brah. Lol.

    I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.
    If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?
    ninertravel
    I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.
    If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?

    That’s why you pre order the cheeseburger lol. Just kidding just kidding.
    ninertravel
    I’m trying to say “who cares what others do it doesn’t effect you” Is a load of crap. Simple economics tells you that.
    If you are the only one buying a cheeseburger at a shop and everyone is buying a beef burger then they met stop selling cheeseburgers so me saying “who cares what your eating I’ll enjoy what I’m eating” doesn’t work is that a better comparison?
    But does me preordering a game affect you in any way whatsoever? No, so why do you care so much about those of us that do it?
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    I believe the "franchise" dev also works on other areas. They usually are across many different areas.
    The problem usually is the programmers. They are limited. The year they did y2y saves it took a programmer the entire year to make it work, hence why there were no other changes to franchise that year.
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    Archie56
    But does me preordering a game affect you in any way whatsoever? No, so why do you care so much about those of us that do it?
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    Think about cyberpunk for a minute and those who pre ordered 7 years ago and why the game was full of bugs.
    I give up my points not getting across. I studied economics believe it or not what others do does effect you with purchases.
    ninertravel
    Think about cyberpunk for a minute and those who pre ordered 7 years ago and why the game was full of bugs.
    I give up my points not getting across. I studied economics believe it or not what others do does effect you with purchases.
    It's true that others purchasing habits should be of some concern, but preorders are a tricky subject.
    On one hand, fear-of-missing-out (FOMO) is a real thing, and part of the human condition, and companies that capitalize on FOMO are scummy and (more importantly) anti-consumer. And video game pre-orders are the empitome of FOMO abuse, especially when they package in exclusive content with a pre-order (the worst practice IMO).
    However, on the other hand, there is a convenience factor to pre-ordering. Pre-loading is one example, but I have another one.
    I knew I was going to like Cyberpunk 2077. I knew it was going to launch as a buggy mess, and hit way lower then the majorities expectations (that game for way overhyped by fans). I preordered it, which allowed me to avoid all media and pre-release content and go into the game with fresh eyes, at the moment of release. That has value to me.
    I have a firm grasp of what factors I need to know or see before clicking the pre-order button, so I've found pre-orders to be more of a boon then a negative to my life. However, yes, abusing FOMO is an anti-consumer practice, especially on a virtually limitless product like a digitally downloadable video game.
    It's a multi-fauceted issue, which I am personally torn on. Mind you I rarely pre-order.
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    tabarnes19
    The problem usually is the programmers

    The problem isn't with the programmers, it's with the SDS brass. They are the ones who decide what the programmers do. If SDS can pull off the cross-platform online game play between Play Station and XBox users without noticeable defects, then this will be a major win for SDS and one I will tip my hat to even though the feature will have absolutely no effect on me since well I am not nor will I ever be a Diamond Dynasty player. But it will still be an impressive feat for SDS if they can do it. In the mean time I really would like SDS to be honest with us on why they pulled the y2y carry over saves from the game. If its because they have radically altered the player models, then I am willing to forget about my existing RTTS players and I might even give up the mode all together since you can do player lock games in the franchise mode and have a very compatible gaming experience as you would with RTTS. But I have a hard time believing they would under take such a radical change to their code base in 2020, of all years. But who knows, perhaps the project to radically alter player models began prior to 2020.
    But as I said early, please please please fix bunting in your game SDS. You have something really good in your MLB The Show series. But as long as bunting is borked with the rocket bunts all to cater to the Diamond Dynasty peeps, your game will continue to have a huge hole in it.
    dbekoscke
    Not sure if it was in this thread, or if this was already shown... But confirmation that MLBTS21 disc is required to play Collector's Edition on PS5.
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    Yeah I believe it was mentioned in one of these threads. Hopefully people remember this when they go to buy the PS5. They'll have to buy the disc version and not the digital PS5, otherwise they'll have to buy the game again.
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    IHateDuke32
    So if you have the Digital PS5, buying the digital Jackie Robinson version is a complete waste of money? I don't get this at all haha, so weird.
    I have a disc PS5 and I still pre-ordered the digital Jackie Robinson edition mainly bc I don't care about getting the hat
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    IHateDuke32
    So if you have the Digital PS5, buying the digital Jackie Robinson version is a complete waste of money? I don't get this at all haha, so weird.

    No because the JR digital versions comes with digital PS4 and digital PS5. So all versions are digital not requiring a PS4 disc to play PS5.
    Ok, so if you have the digital PS5, don't buy the physical JR edition that comes with the PS5 code, because that version still needs the disc to play the game, even though it comes with a digital code?
    IHateDuke32
    Ok, so if you have the digital PS5, don't buy the physical JR edition that comes with the PS5 code, because that version still needs the disc to play the game, even though it comes with a digital code?
    Yes that is correct!
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    Turned on my XSX today and their was an ad to Pre order MLB The Show 21, i was shocked. I had no idea it was no longer exclusive to the PS. Looking forward to playing it on next gen Xbox Series X.
    tabarnes19
    I'm really hoping some of the new tools are more sliders for franchise mode. Imagine the possibilities if they open up sliders like 2k.
    1. Trade quality, trade value, contract adjustments, progression, draft quality you name it.
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    I would love this too but I would keep my hopes down.
    Just wanna see a couple of videos to make up my mind and pre-order for my PS5. Hopefully there are a few graphical and physics improvements. Fingers crossed.:y220::y220::y220::y220:
    tree3five
    That’s why you pre order the cheeseburger lol. Just kidding just kidding.

    that's why you learn to make your own cheeseburger. I'll take a Eddie Murphy house burger over a mcd's anytime.
    "I got McDonald's!"
    Americas Team
    Turned on my XSX today and their was an ad to Pre order MLB The Show 21, i was shocked. I had no idea it was no longer exclusive to the PS. Looking forward to playing it on next gen Xbox Series X.

    The question then becomes how watered down will the ps version be with the developers spread thin to produce a game on multiple platforms?
    tessl
    The question then becomes how watered down will the ps version be with the developers spread thin to produce a game on multiple platforms?

    That will all depend on how portable their code is. If they have common code (which I am sure they do) that can be used on different platforms, then that really won't have much of an effect, However they are going to need to dedicate more QA resources to test all the platforms.
    tessl
    The question then becomes how watered down will the ps version be with the developers spread thin to produce a game on multiple platforms?
    they already got strike one called with no carry-over saves (not by my me but plenty of others already decided on a no-go for 21). I guess they believe they'll more than make that up in xbox sales of 21. but 2 more strikes could be the biggest whiff since the Mighty Casey.
    so the $64 ? now is how much joy in Mudville come this summer
    My993C2
    But as I said early, please please please fix bunting in your game SDS. You have something really good in your MLB The Show series. But as long as bunting is borked with the rocket bunts all to cater to the Diamond Dynasty peeps, your game will continue to have a huge hole in it.

    They'll never do it. Sadly.
    Caulfield
    they already got strike one called with no carry-over saves (not by my me but plenty of others already decided on a no-go for 21). I guess they believe they'll more than make that up in xbox sales of 21. but 2 more strikes could be the biggest whiff since the Mighty Casey.
    so the $64 ? now is how much joy in Mudville come this summer

    and wait when they start chasing bugs on the 4 platforms. :bil:
    We have 2 teams where i work, one specialized in Xbox series and one for the PS consoles. Hope their small team received some help or it will be no fun for them ( for us on the rebound). We think having 90% of the code in common between the platforms will make it easy but it's just not the case. That 10% was almost killing us.
    That's why my expectation is on some quick-win features for this year. I may be wrong but working remotely cause of the pandemic was adding to the problem of a transition year not only to support a PS4 + PS5 but the Xbox series as well.
    Maybe the work restrictions were not that bad in SD as here on North side of the border but I can't imagine by example they were able to record as much mocap sessions ( new animations) as they used to.
    So what about carry over sliders in 21?
    Also I'm pleased with 20. If the 21 PS4 version doesn't add any throwback uniforms or make corrections (94 Angels/98 Mets/70's Phillies & Royals) then I'll just stick with 20 and wait a couple of years when the PS5 finally comes down in price.
    405Cowboy
    So what about carry over sliders in 21?
    Also I'm pleased with 20. If the 21 PS4 version doesn't add any throwback uniforms or make corrections (94 Angels/98 Mets/70's Phillies & Royals) then I'll just stick with 20 and wait a couple of years when the PS5 finally comes down in price.

    I don't look for slider carry-overs in 21, but I never saw the need anyhow. those are extremely easy to replicate w/o being time consuming
    I'm honestly quite excited, I am every year. I'm hoping this is my last year with a ps4 though. Hopefully they'll port it to pc or I'll be a looking at getting a series S. I found a fun new way to get into my franchise and get through multiple years and I love DD so I'll get my money's worth.
    Very interested in seeing what's new with franchise and I'm hoping the new pitching mechanic is like the old 2K one. Regardless, April 16th can't get here fast enough!!
    Every day that goes by where we see nothing at all on the PlayStation 5 makes me think that the difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions will be very minimal.
    Their marketing strategy, imo, plays little into the amount of content provided. Based on capability alone, you should expect more than a “minimal difference” between the PS4 version and ps5 version.
    Gagnon39
    Every day that goes by where we see nothing at all on the PlayStation 5 makes me think that the difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions will be very minimal.

    Only speculating here, but I suspect the real PS5 release won't be until MLBTS 22. That's why I am not in a huge rush to try and secure a PS5 this year. But as I said I am only speculating. I am sure we will know more once the DEV streams begin.
    My993C2
    Only speculating here, but I suspect the real PS5 release won't be until MLBTS 22. That's why I am not in a huge rush to try and secure a PS5 this year. But as I said I am only speculating. I am sure we will know more once the DEV streams begin.

    I suspect that it would all depend upon the Engine for the game. PS5 "enhancements" could include higher framerate or something like that over a base PS4 version using mostly the same version as the PS4 version.
    For additional things like Ray Tracing, It would likely depend on whether the existing engine could include it or if the engine would need to be re-worked or replaced entirely to accommodate such features, and how well they would work.
    Knowing absolutely nothing about how SD Studio operate or work with Sony, the only thing I could speculate on is that support for these features and a dev kit would at least have been as accessible to this studio as it would have for a studio like Insomniac Studios, and support of these features likely not a secret, so, they could have had time to prepare updates like that in the existing engine if it were possible.
    Next, we have the global pandemic situation and it's affect on development. For an annual title, that could really slow down inclusion of features.
    I remember the PS3 to PS4 upgrade didn't really start to take advantage of the added power of the PS4 until the second year, however, even that was a different situation.
    The PS3 was a completely different architecture than the PS4. The PS4 couldn't play PS3 games as a result and the PS4 version needed to be coded for the PS4. PS5 doesn't really have that same situation over the PS4. So, that makes things easier there.
    My current guess is that this game will be much like last years game, with some enhancements on PS5 in regards to Framerate, Higher Poly models on players and in the stands, perhaps better grass.. things like that. Things that don't require a rework of the code as much as just turning up the existing code to 11 and letting the horsepower of the new systems do their thing.
    For XBOX, I don't know how much code had to be recreated, so there is that. Perhaps it's all new code. So, that really makes things super hard to predict. I also then have to wonder, would a 1st party Sony studio want parity between platforms, or allow the XBOX version to possibly perform better if it can which would then lead to many console warriors for XBOX to go nuts about that. Soooo much to wonder, and all will be known soon, relatively speaking.
    My993C2
    Only speculating here, but I suspect the real PS5 release won't be until MLBTS 22. That's why I am not in a huge rush to try and secure a PS5 this year. But as I said I am only speculating. I am sure we will know more once the DEV streams begin.

    yeah, until more info comes down the pike, I've been doing a ton of speculation myself. another possible scenario lending to the carry-over being obsolete is expanded rosters. and from there one could surmise another difference between the ps4 & ps5 Show 21 would be the ps5 Show only getting expanded rosters. also, again, pure speculation on my part. anxious as hell for more news. Sony got me salivating like Pavlov's dog lol
    The Show did not start to feel next gen on the PS4 till 17.
    I have gone back and played 14-17 and 14,15 and 16 were better PS3 versions.
    Not until 17 did I feel the more butter smoothness for lack of a better term and also the 4K enhancements we finally got on 17.
    As far as speculation on 21 for the PS4?
    No expanded rosters and nothing new for franchise mode at all on the PS4 to write home about.
    PS5 IMO is getting expanded rosters (that is the hope).
    I feel MLB The Show if it follows it’s PS4 path (and that is also a big unknown at this point). Will really take off 2023.
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    Why can't they just give us a small tease of the PS5 version?
    Maybe one screen shot of the new grass and dirt? :y220:
    Having to wait until March to get any new info on PS5 version is rough. lol
    Hopefully it's worth the wait!
    Gagnon39
    Every day that goes by where we see nothing at all on the PlayStation 5 makes me think that the difference between the PS4 and PS5 versions will be very minimal.

    Afraid this means we will get a similar Madden like "next gen upgrade" :y2:
    ninertravel
    Think
    They will go with that stupid extra innings rule this year in the game ? It is here to stay now

    Having a customization suite is really critical for those of us who play classic roster baseball.
    On 20 we look past the 3 batter rule....but that is all we can really tolerate. If we do not have real extra innings during the regular season.....that will be incredibly lame playing rosters from the past.
    Again full customization to do realignment, reduce the number of teams, customize divisions (think AL East and AL West...no wild cards old school baseball).
    Doubt it ever happens.
    baconbits11
    Afraid this means we will get a similar Madden like "next gen upgrade" :y2:

    Like I stated earlier....typically takes several cycles to really feel next gen. The time crunch of a yearly release is very difficult especially for a smaller studio like SDS. Plus add in the pandemic.
    Temper your expectations.
    If they are exceeded that is a bonus.
    Armor and Sword
    Having a customization suite is really critical for those of us who play classic roster baseball.
    On 20 we look past the 3 batter rule....but that is all we can really tolerate. If we do not have real extra innings during the regular season.....that will be incredibly lame playing rosters from the past.
    Again full customization to do realignment, reduce the number of teams, customize divisions (think AL East and AL West...no wild cards old school baseball).
    Doubt it ever happens.

    Yep couldn't agree more!
    sadly though I think the DH rule will be coming for next year 100% sure of it and I reckon they might even get it in last minute for this year.. they did last year as well. I can live with the DH rule but the expanded playoffs and extra innings runner on base rule can go to hell! they clearly want that rule regardless of Covid.
    Armor and Sword
    Like I stated earlier....typically takes several cycles to really feel next gen. The time crunch of a yearly release is very difficult especially for a smaller studio like SDS. Plus add in the pandemic.
    Temper your expectations.
    If they are exceeded that is a bonus.

    I understand the time-crunch of an annual release, however, I disagree that it should take several cycles to really feel next-gen; when it comes to the very first release on next-gen, yes, one can argue it takes time to understand the new hardware...but this is what they do...they are supposed to be the best-of-the-best...they have most likely had their hands working on this since early 2020 or even sooner...(especially coming from a previously Sony product), so I don't buy the "temper expectations" card...
    ...take a look at Madden VS NBA2K...
    ...one hit the mark as far as "next-gen" and the other did not...
    Let's hope they deliver...I'll be buying regardless, because the studio always provides an excellent experience and I'm forever a fan. :nchuck:
    #SCEA
    I think that if the Ps5/X version is $10 more and not a free upgrade the leap from the 4 will be noticeable and significant. Just me?
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    The big question for me is will sounds of the show work on the xbox one X? If so, I'll get it for the next gen. If not? I'd rather then just get it on the PS4.
    TecmoZack
    I think that if the Ps5/X version is $10 more and not a free upgrade the leap from the 4 will be noticeable and significant. Just me?
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    No, all games on the new consoles are $10 more.
    LastActionHero
    No, all games on the new consoles are $10 more.

    Pretty much this, though, there are games with a PS5 upgrade without charge. I'm pretty sure that all 1st party Sony titles so far have had the $10 additional cost for a PS5 version though.
    I'm still sticking with there are too many unknowns with this years release to know what I expect from this year's PS5 or XSX version release as far as adding features which are for the new gen. Primarily, I don't know whether the game needed to be re-worked from the ground up or the existing code could be used with inserted new hardware features. Even more complicated to guess on that with the introduction of an XBOX/XSX version, though, they use similar graphics hardware, they use different toolsets.
    Aeonix01
    Primarily, I don't know whether the game needed to be re-worked from the ground up or the existing code could be used with inserted new hardware features. Even more complicated to guess on that with the introduction of an XBOX/XSX version, though, they use similar graphics hardware, they use different toolsets.

    All the consoles starting with the PS4 era are basically the same architecture - low wattage laptop-like (but powerful) PCs. The game doesn't need to be reworked from the ground up for any of these consoles. They're basically all the same at this point.
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    LastActionHero
    I must say I’m very much intrigued by the haptic feedback integration from the Dualsense in The Show.

    Having both the PS5 and Series X, I constantly struggle to decide which controller I like more. The haptic stuff in the Dual Sense is crazy when implemented. I got the platinum for Astro's Playroom because the game is so fun, but also the way the Dual Sense works in that game is just amazing.
    On the other hand, I just love the way the Series controller feels in your hands. It feels like a natural fit. I also like that the sticks aren't right next to each other like the Dual Sense.
    But again, the haptic stuff is so cool lol. So I guess when it comes to games like these, when choosing a platform the controller will play a big part. But at the same time, I love both so how do I choose lol.
    In case others havent seen this..........
    Rounding out the news of the morning, San Diego Studio’s new “Feature Premiers” will air Thursdays at 3 PM PT starting March 11. Here’s the presumed schedule for the premiers to come:
    March 11: “Tailored Gameplay, Pinpoint Pitching, and Hitting engine updates”
    March 18: “Complete Fielding Overall”
    March 25: “Ball Player introduction, more variety, and ways to play and ever before”
    April 1: “Franchise and March to October empowers you to make decisions for the future”
    April 8: “MLB The Show goes Next Gen”
    April 15: “Diamond Dynasty streamlined with new paths to rewards”
    The Kid 24
    Mills retweeted something that stadium creator is in 21!
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    Apparently was leaked in the info section on the YouTube clip.
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    405Cowboy
    So will the pitching feature be all different in 21? I prefer the previous meter/button version. PLEASE say that will still be in 21...!!!

    Every other time they have added a pitching mechanic (I think pulse pitching is the most recent addition, but I could be wrong) they have left all the others in as options as well.
    They already broke the bad news of no y2y saves, then removed the words revamped from advertising. So here's me reading to much into the "feature premiere" schedule dates. Franchise/MTO being in the middle is because whatever they are doing to the modes has a high chance to not be received well. So they build the hype with the first few videos. If the Franchise/MTO news goes down like a lead balloon they bank on next gen and DD news being able to drown out and distract from the potential negativity that would have been created.
    Or it could be great news who knows it's all specualtion. To bad these folks leaking info can't leak some info about Franchise. Either way April 1st can't come soon enough.
    jrnlgrn
    They already broke the bad news of no y2y saves, then removed the words revamped from advertising. So here's me reading to much into the "feature premiere" schedule dates. Franchise/MTO being in the middle is because whatever they are doing to the modes has a high chance to not be received well. So they build the hype with the first few videos. If the Franchise/MTO news goes down like a lead balloon they bank on next gen and DD news being able to drown out and distract from the potential negativity that would have been created.
    Or it could be great news who knows it's all specualtion. To bad these folks leaking info can't leak some info about Franchise. Either way April 1st can't come soon enough.

    I think you're reading too much into it honestly. SDS typically does gameplay first (usually 2 streams), mode-specific streams, and then DD content reveals at the very end. The next-gen stream is obviously unique for this year; but the general info release progression is otherwise pretty standard for SDS.
    My two cents...hoping for Expansion Team mode.
    With the ability to customize teams and now the leaked stadium builder option, I'm really hoping they add an MLB Expansion Team mode. For me, the most fun I've had playing Franchise was in an older game (don't recall which year/game) with Expansion Team mode where I went through an expansion draft and then tried to take that team to greatness.
    All of the pieces are there, and being able to create a team from scratch and try to compete in Franchise mode would be awesome. (Way better, IMO, than DD mode where every team has the same players, and every player on your team can be an All-Star or HOFer.)
    esmeet7
    My two cents...hoping for Expansion Team mode.
    With the ability to customize teams and now the leaked stadium builder option, I'm really hoping they add an MLB Expansion Team mode. For me, the most fun I've had playing Franchise was in an older game (don't recall which year/game) with Expansion Team mode where I went through an expansion draft and then tried to take that team to greatness.
    All of the pieces are there, and being able to create a team from scratch and try to compete in Franchise mode would be awesome. (Way better, IMO, than DD mode where every team has the same players, and every player on your team can be an All-Star or HOFer.)

    I would love this. Expansion has been on the top of my wish list for several years now.
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    esmeet7
    My two cents...hoping for Expansion Team mode.
    With the ability to customize teams and now the leaked stadium builder option, I'm really hoping they add an MLB Expansion Team mode. For me, the most fun I've had playing Franchise was in an older game (don't recall which year/game) with Expansion Team mode where I went through an expansion draft and then tried to take that team to greatness.
    All of the pieces are there, and being able to create a team from scratch and try to compete in Franchise mode would be awesome. (Way better, IMO, than DD mode where every team has the same players, and every player on your team can be an All-Star or HOFer.)

    Completely agree.
    Expansion + logo upload tool for uniform creation would lead to big big hours from me.
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    JoshC1977
    I think you're reading too much into it honestly. SDS typically does gameplay first (usually 2 streams), mode-specific streams, and then DD content reveals at the very end. The next-gen stream is obviously unique for this year; but the general info release progression is otherwise pretty standard for SDS.
    I know, it was a joke, a obviously a poorly received one.
    My993C2
    Only speculating here, but I suspect the real PS5 release won't be until MLBTS 22. That's why I am not in a huge rush to try and secure a PS5 this year. But as I said I am only speculating. I am sure we will know more once the DEV streams begin.

    Lol I used to say this too when they were about to release the next gen consoles and I missed out on the pre orders......but playing other games on Series X compared to current gen........ it’s night and day bro lol the show 21 will be unbelievable compared to 20 on last gen consoles I have no doubts
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    Well I have all the show games, not my point, but I was on PS4 PRO from PS4 and that was a better experience. I now have the PS5 and XBOX X and MLB 20 looks better on PS5 which was not made for it, even 17 looks like an upgrade, But what they showed the other day MLB 21 PS4 version on PS5 I was not slightly impressed at all. It looked a step back to be honest, not a finished product I know and they don't put the finishing touches on until 2 weeks before launch, but you think like EA and 2K showed off NEXT GEN right away, why is SDS delaying that?
    From my experience with this company your not going to be overly impressed, jaw dropping moment or you would have seen that the first video.
    Expect pretty much of the same, players models did not upgrade until 17, I don't expect 2k Models, Fifa Models anytime on thus game. They really need to hire Take 2 as far as scans go, player models etc...
    The entire cycle of PS4 baseball was behind 2K and Madden, now don't get me wrong I liked the changes from 17 until now (hated the removal of online franchise) but there still ages away from catching up graphically. The eyes, skin tones, the mouth movements and face reactions was a much needed addition, but still years behind other sports titles.
    In closing, I live for this, live baseball and it's a nice looking game. It needs work still on base running, recording errors correctly especially online where I only play in leagues, but they need to allow using broadcast mode online. The latency issues for the longest time still exist on this game and will only be worse with the addition of XBOX and eventually Nintendo Switch.
    Now was 2k as beautiful game compared to the Show? Not even close, but the latency, connections while playing online 100 times better vs. the show online.
    I really hope there can be League Options within a franchise. If I want a DH after 1 year of a franchise or take out the extra innings rule after year 5. Rather than being stuck with the MLB settings throughout the entirety of the franchise
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    Jatt96
    Man I'm just waiting to see just one screenshot to see what baseball looks like on next-gen.

    I think there's a very real possibility the tech test will be our first taste of actual next-gen content.
    Got the Xbox Series X I had sold back once they confirmed the game was going to be multi platform so what I'm looking forward the most for next gen is player models and stadium ambiance. I still have the PS4 Pro and enjoying Padres season full 162 game every pitch of every game. I do hope we are all impressed with next gen.
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