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Madden NFL 19 Graphics Blog

EA has just posted their Madden NFL 19 graphics blog and we’ve posted some bullets below. Head on over to the official Madden site for more.

  • Dialed in skin tones, worked on likeness, and added more scans
  • In Year Two working with Frostbite, the team was able to deliver more detail around the skin and eyes, as well as player sweat
  • Added new player models
  • New uniforms added this year for the Jacksonville Jaguars, Tennessee Titans, Chicago Bears, San Francisco 49ers, Miami Dolphins, and Pittsburgh Steelers
  • Added a wide selection of facemasks, gloves, and cleats
  • In-game lighting has been adjusted to make things pop and help bring a next-level realism to the gamer
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  1. Wow, I’ve been playing the Beta and I think they could have talked about a few more things in the blog than that!! Terrible!
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    They do give you a little clue in that first pic though. It’s a small thing that most people won’t care about, but it’s something visual that hasn’t worked in the past that actually is working very well this year....
    It’s something I complained about last year that they seemed to have addressed.
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    If you watched the stream at 19:26 he said he believes mouth guards are in this year. And at 25:03 he said he doesn't know about mouth guards. He believes he heard they were in but he's not 100% sure.
    Cato06
    They do give you a little clue in that first pic though. It’s a small thing that most people won’t care about, but it’s something visual that hasn’t worked in the past that actually is working very well this year....
    It’s something I complained about last year that they seemed to have addressed.
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    Nameplates ?
    Rams_3
    If you watched the stream at 19:26 he said he believes mouth guards are in this year

    Said he heard but we haven't seen any game play footage with mouth guard equipment and or on any of the equipment options. Would be shocked if it is in. Would have to be a last second add in.
    dvdsaba
    Said he heard but we haven't seen any game play footage with mouth guard equipment and or on any of the equipment options. Would be shocked if it is in. Would have to be a last second add in.

    Yeah I know I'd be shocked too. But kane wouldn't want it to be shown. He probably wanted it to be a surprise. Especially since people have been wanting it for so long now.
    Rams_3
    Yeah I know I'd be shocked too. But kane wouldn't want it to be shown. He probably wanted it to be a surprise. Especially since people have been wanting it for so long now.

    It would be a great surprise:D
    I really don't like the way the lighting looks this year. Everything just looks washed out. I'll have to wait until I see the retail copy in person, but as of now 18's lighting was way better for me.
    SageInfinite
    I really don't like the way the lighting looks this year. Everything just looks washed out. I'll have to wait until I see the retail copy in person, but as of now 18's lighting was way better for me.

    See, I think it's much better this year, colors spark and pop on this end.
    We'll see.
    roadman
    See, I think it's much better this year, colors spark and pop on this end.
    We'll see.
    I think the colors pop better this year but the daytime lighting looks 3 hours later than the time of the game almost. That 4 pm lighting looks like 630 or 7 pm
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    scitychamps87
    I think the colors pop better this year but the daytime lighting looks 3 hours later than the time of the game almost. That 4 pm lighting looks like 630 or 7 pm
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    I feel like a lot of the Frostbite games have this issue, namely Battlefield. Less realistic and more dramatic I guess.
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    I mean, it was a blog I guess. The visuals look great as they almost always do. Hopefully the gameplay works well with the level of detail they're going for. I did notice some clipping issues here an there in Mills stream. Hopefully that stuff gets fixed before release.
    That's the blog? Honestly if I was them I wouldn't have even bothered releasing a blog if that's all they were going to do. Seems like a waste of someone's time. A couple of screen shots of the "new player models" differentiation between the types could have been helpful.
    I am not too worried though. I've heard in other threads the shoulder pad issue was fixed, and from what I've seen the graphics look pretty good.
    The only thing that looks slightly weird to me is the way jersey wrinkles/fits on the front of a player are rendering from camera angles that are a little further away. Up close, they look like real NFL jerseys. Further away for some reason it looks like the Madden 17 textures again.
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    TB5XSBW
    Graphics are superb this year. No complaints on that front.

    Graphics have never been a concern with Madden
    It's the actual gameplay that seems to always be inconsistent
    scitychamps87
    It's only in certain situations in daytime lighting it appears to look more sun washed hence the"dimness" comments
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    I am Sooooooo glad I'm not the only one who noticed the washed out/dim look in daylight games. It is only when going a certain direction of the field though, for example:
    My offense has the ball, it looks great. When on defense it looks washed out. Change of quarter, the opposite happens.
    SageInfinite
    I really don't like the way the lighting looks this year. Everything just looks washed out. I'll have to wait until I see the retail copy in person, but as of now 18's lighting was way better for me.

    I agree the lighting is a big issue in the clips we've seen so far. It looks like there's a tint, almost like the user is wearing sunglasses, during day games. The grass on some fields looks like it hasn't been watered in a month.
    The lighting in 18 is fantastic. Everything is dark and dull in the '19 clips outside of dome games.
    After seeing the trailer and those early screenshots I was worried. It looked like some ill-conceived filter was put over everything (like M09 and the blue filter). I'll just say that the game doesn't seem to have any trace of that, and I think has surpassed 18. The colors are exceptional this year, and some of the player models and subtle uniform and accessory details are just phenomenal. Bright sunlight can look a little too high contrast in some contexts like dome light mixed with sunlight beaming in imo, and it gives a bit of a muddy look in spots, but overall the art side of Madden has been outstanding on Frostbite. Kane and co have put a ton of love in, and I'm offering up my praise.
    pimpycraig
    I am Sooooooo glad I'm not the only one who noticed the washed out/dim look in daylight games. It is only when going a certain direction of the field though, for example:
    My offense has the ball, it looks great. When on defense it looks washed out. Change of quarter, the opposite happens.

    Its different depending were the sun is. Which I dont really care for, but I suppose its realistic. I dont think its washed out though.
    The CFM blog was underwhelming, now this Graphics blog seems pretty light. For me, the only thing Madden 19 has going for it is being back on PC. Everything else seems like pretty light year of upgrades.
    But I AM excited about Madden being back on PC.
    Cato06
    They do give you a little clue in that first pic though. It’s a small thing that most people won’t care about, but it’s something visual that hasn’t worked in the past that actually is working very well this year....
    It’s something I complained about last year that they seemed to have addressed.

    Larger nameplates/fonts...
    ehh
    I agree the lighting is a big issue in the clips we've seen so far. It looks like there's a tint, almost like the user is wearing sunglasses, during day games. The grass on some fields looks like it hasn't been watered in a month.
    The lighting in 18 is fantastic. Everything is dark and dull in the '19 clips outside of dome games.

    Precisely. I like the player models and the details alot this year, but the lighting is AWFUL form what I've seen.
    pimpycraig
    I am Sooooooo glad I'm not the only one who noticed the washed out/dim look in daylight games. It is only when going a certain direction of the field though, for example:
    My offense has the ball, it looks great. When on defense it looks washed out. Change of quarter, the opposite happens.

    Again, I have not experienced that at all, in any situation or any time of day. Looks consistently excellent at all times.
    What console/TV are you using?
    SageInfinite
    Precisely. I like the player models and the details alot this year, but the lighting is AWFUL form what I've seen.

    Lighting looks nearly identical to what you'd see in a game on TV. By far the most realistic it has ever looked.
    TB5XSBW
    Lighting looks nearly identical to what you'd see in a game on TV. By far the most realistic it has ever looked.

    I 100% agree with this. People just need to wait till release & see it for themselves on their own TVs would be my advice..
    And as far as the brightness....there will likely be options to increase/decrease it like there was on M18....it's buried on M18 in the accessibility options...assuming M19 will be the same at launch.
    Cato06
    They do give you a little clue in that first pic though. It’s a small thing that most people won’t care about, but it’s something visual that hasn’t worked in the past that actually is working very well this year....
    It’s something I complained about last year that they seemed to have addressed.
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    loose sleeves do look good this year :smirk:
    DaReal Milticket
    I 100% agree with this. People just need to wait till release & see it for themselves on their own TVs would be my advice..

    Really wish I could comment about my beta experience with the lighting. Playing on an Xbox one with a 1080p monitor. I’ll say that I’m on the other side of your position in the discussion
    I know it's difficult to not give any info from the beta, but this is just a friendly reminder, that until EA releases the beta tester from the NDA, we should honor and respect that from an OS point of view. I think all of us would like the opportunity, if EA continues down that path, to keep our privileges moving forward.
    I think this build is from EA play(maybe I'm wrong) vs the beta.
    TB5XSBW
    Lighting looks nearly identical to what you'd see in a game on TV. By far the most realistic it has ever looked.

    Not from what I've seen. I would love it if it did tough. Hopefully I'll feel more like you when the retail is released.
    I want to see what type of difference the visual settings make to the game before I comment if I do or don't like the lighting, but the lighting I saw in one of the Eaplay videos during a rain game in Seattle was pure horrible super dark field with high contrasted greens popping off the Seahawks jerseys is far from realistic.
    cthurt
    I want to see what type of difference the visual settings make to the game before I comment if I do or don't like the lighting, but the lighting I saw in one of the Eaplay videos during a rain game in Seattle was pure horrible super dark field with high contrasted greens popping off the Seahawks jerseys is far from realistic.

    I commented in that video thread, it was like Madden 15 all over again, as if the Seahawks forgot to pay the Century Link Field light bill :y16: Absolutely terrible. Hopefully it was just because it was beta and they are throwing in all the little bells & whistles at the end.
    iLLWiLL
    I commented in that video thread, it was like Madden 15 all over again, as if the Seahawks forgot to pay the Century Link Field light bill :y16: Absolutely terrible. Hopefully it was just because it was beta and they are throwing in all the little bells & whistles at the end.

    Man I hope so or it will be a year of me skipping rain games smh.
    SageInfinite
    Not from what I've seen. I would love it if it did tough. Hopefully I'll feel more like you when the retail is released.

    What are you basing this on? The online videos?
    TB5XSBW
    What are you basing this on? The online videos?

    I will let Sage answer, but I think it's online videos plus the graphics stream from last evening, which I think was an EA play build.
    We just can't (beta testers) confirm one way or the other if this is still in the beta game.
    Reading the reddit beta testers reviews has me all messed up on how this game will look, some say its a downgrade graphically, some say it looks a lot better then Madden 18, some say its too dark with the lighting and even the visual settings within the game cant help it look better.
    cthurt
    Reading the reddit beta testers reviews has me all messed up on how this game will look, some say its a downgrade graphically, some say it looks a lot better then Madden 18, some say its too dark with the lighting and even the visual settings within the game cant help it look better.

    One thing to keep in mind is that not everyone is playing it on the same system or using the same TV. So obviously people will have different experiences.
    Just look at Madden 18. I remember reading this forum and seeing complaints from PS4 owners (both base and Pro) about the game looking dim and washed out. However, those on the Xbox One X were very pleased with how it looked.
    TB5XSBW
    One thing to keep in mind is that not everyone is playing it on the same system or using the same TV. So obviously people will have different experiences.
    Just look at Madden 18. I remember reading this forum and seeing complaints from PS4 owners (both base and Pro) about the game looking dim and washed out. However, those on the Xbox One X were very pleased with how it looked.

    I think a large part of that was Xbox one x just having insane HDR and 4K capabilities. But yea it’s an annoying inconsistency across all platforms. Really wish 1080p gamers don’t suffer from the HDR intended lighting
    Sparkles
    I think a large part of that was Xbox one x just having insane HDR and 4K capabilities. But yea it’s an annoying inconsistency across all platforms. Really wish 1080p gamers don’t suffer from the HDR intended lighting

    I think that will only happen if they don't add the ability to turn off HDR in the game, forcing a tone mapped HDR signal to 1080p displays. Then the image could look dim.
    TB5XSBW
    One thing to keep in mind is that not everyone is playing it on the same system or using the same TV. So obviously people will have different experiences.
    Just look at Madden 18. I remember reading this forum and seeing complaints from PS4 owners (both base and Pro) about the game looking dim and washed out. However, those on the Xbox One X were very pleased with how it looked.

    So is it a situation that since I have a xbox one X I have nothing to worry about? Because you are right I did have the ps4 pro version first last year and when the One X version released the graphics alone gave Madden new life for me.
    cthurt
    So is it a situation that since I have a xbox one X I have nothing to worry about? Because you are right I did have the ps4 pro version first last year and when the One X version released the graphics alone gave Madden new life for me.

    If you didn't have any issues with the One X last year, you should not have anything to worry about.
    TB5XSBW
    Lighting looks nearly identical to what you'd see in a game on TV. By far the most realistic it has ever looked.

    Are you basing this on videos or playing the beta?
    Rhudey
    Are you basing this on videos or playing the beta?

    That is a loaded question that can't be answered with playing the beta because of the NDA in place.
    Material that we pretty much knew about already. Graphics is pretty much at its potential for this console. Besides Lighting, colors, and weather, not much they can do with Graphics.
    One thing I would have liked them to implement the EA GameFace from NBA Live. I remember spending hours trying to get a decent render from 2k. But with Live's Gameface, I instantly had a good render on 1st or 2nd try. The gameface with Maddens current graphics and visuals, would have added good immersion. Like putting your face on a created player or even a coach/owner.
    roadman
    That is a loaded question that can't be answered with playing the beta because of the NDA in place.

    Sure it can. Just create a new account on a public computer that cannot be traced back to you.
    illwill10
    Material that we pretty much knew about already. Graphics is pretty much at its potential for this console. Besides Lighting, colors, and weather, not much they can do with Graphics.
    One thing I would have liked them to implement the EA GameFace from NBA Live. I remember spending hours trying to get a decent render from 2k. But with Live's Gameface, I instantly had a good render on 1st or 2nd try. The gameface with Maddens current graphics and visuals, would have added good immersion. Like putting your face on a created player or even a coach/owner.

    It would also solve the problem of players not having face scans, assuming you could put faces on existing players.
    JoshC1977
    And as far as the brightness....there will likely be options to increase/decrease it like there was on M18....it's buried on M18 in the accessibility options...assuming M19 will be the same at launch.

    You can also always adjust the contrast on your own monitor/tv. I do this every year to get things looking as good as possible. Had to up the tint a bit to the green side for Madden 18 due to the 49ers pants being a bit too brown. But I got it looking perfect.
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    Sure it can. Just create a new account on a public computer that cannot be traced back to you.

    A little extreme don't you think? Game comes out in a month.
    DaReal Milticket
    A little extreme don't you think? Game comes out in a month.

    Well it depends on how badly you want to throw the finger at lawyers and big companies. Or how badly you want internet fame.
    With footage from the Beta you could get millions of internet dollars.
    How about gameplay speed,  ball physics,  players and the ball clipping through objects.  Footprints in the snow but no body prints from falling players.  New player models mean nothing of they all have the same animations.  I am not very excited about this madden project.  I still think madden 25 is the best madden this far. You can't keep adding graphical fidelity and keep the same animations.  Its causing a huge disconnect. If Barry Sanders and Orleans Darkwa have the same running animations,  it really means little to me how the graphics look.
    49UNCFan
    How was night games bad? they were gorgeous

    In Madden 15? The lighting in night games was extremely drab. Same went for indoor games. The only games that looked good were the sunny & clear day games.
    iLLWiLL
    In Madden 15? The lighting in night games was extremely drab. Same went for indoor games. The only games that looked good were the sunny & clear day games.

    Oh my bad lol I thought you were talking about 18. I agree Madden 15 was horrible, almost unplayable.
    ehh
    I agree the lighting is a big issue in the clips we've seen so far. It looks like there's a tint, almost like the user is wearing sunglasses, during day games. The grass on some fields looks like it hasn't been watered in a month.
    The lighting in 18 is fantastic. Everything is dark and dull in the '19 clips outside of dome games.

    Absolutely this! It looks way too dark to me.
    Brooke2011
    Don’t go by the clips.... I think people will be happy with all conditions this year .

    I wasn’t happy with it on my end during the beta
    Brooke2011
    Don’t go by the clips.... I think people will be happy with all conditions this year .

    Sparkles
    I wasn’t happy with it on my end during the beta

    eek!
    DaReal Milticket
    It really shouldn't matter what other people think of a game. You, yourself are the only critic that matters.

    Good advice. Hopefully everyone will like it.
    Idk I just feel like all these frostbite games don’t keep 1080p monitors in mind and just 4K TVs and stuff. Ever frostbite game I’ve had just doesn’t do a good job with them. Brightness is too low and uneven with contrasts. That’s just my opinion
    pimpycraig
    Roadman's gonna get you. Surprised he hasn't responded yet.

    Busy week of the 4th.
    Yeah, Sparkles, let's not jeopardize OS and Steve's standing in receiving the Beta for the future. We need to keep it confidential until the NDA is lifted.
    There isn't a peep on Twitter and there shouldn't be one on here, either.
    Thanks.
    ForUntoOblivionSoar∞
    Sure it can. Just create a new account on a public computer that cannot be traced back to you.

    Maybe, but out of respect for the site I would ask that people don't follow this advice. Steve was given a very generous amount of codes.
    I get that you want info, but I would ask that you stop promoting people to violate the NDA.
    It's a straight up disrespect to this site. Thanks....
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?
    To me, it still feels like there’s a disconnect with the fans inside these beautiful rendered stadiums.
    I’d rather see more fan base reactions during gameplay vs player/coach shots.
    There seems to be no connection between the gamer and fan base whether positive or negative, at all.
    Just curious of others take on this since it’s dealing with graphics.
    **I’m talking more of what’s already in the game vs a wishlist component being added.
    khaliib
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?
    To me, it still feels like there’s a disconnect with the fans inside these beautiful rendered stadiums.
    I’d rather see more fan base reactions during gameplay vs player/coach shots.
    There seems to be no connection between the gamer and fan base whether positive or negative, at all.
    Just curious of others take on this since it’s dealing with graphics.
    **I’m talking more of what’s already in the game vs a wishlist component being added.

    If they worked on living worlds and had a lot more fan animations like the Show added this year then yeah I would like to see more shots of fans in the stands.
    Since there was no mention of improved living worlds in any blog I would like to see more broadcast camera angles after a play instead of the close up shots.
    khaliib
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?
    To me, it still feels like there’s a disconnect with the fans inside these beautiful rendered stadiums.
    I’d rather see more fan base reactions during gameplay vs player/coach shots.
    There seems to be no connection between the gamer and fan base whether positive or negative, at all.
    Just curious of others take on this since it’s dealing with graphics.
    **I’m talking more of what’s already in the game vs a wishlist component being added.

    I would love for them to just straight copy ncaa 14 and make the atmosphere feel more alive. Almost all of the games tend to feel the same, in ncaa big games felt big to me. In madden, the super bowl feels like any other game.
    khaliib
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?

    Good question. I'd rather have a mix of everything, but for it to feel organic and less scripted. This is going off of previous Madden titles, but it's always a matter of time before you see all presentation elements the game has to offer in terms of camera angles and cut scenes, and more often than not, you'll get to see all of them within a short period. Once you can guess with absolute certainty which cut scene they'll show or what exactly triggers a replay (and from what angle), then things become incredibly stale for me.
    One thing that can certainly help is making the play call screen much smaller, or just have it occupy the bottom/side portion of the screen so they can show off more of the graphics. I read an article recently that was very critical of modern sports broadcasts and how some of them (ESPN, CBS) use more real estate than necessary on the screen for their score bugs; so much so that it detracts from the action that's going on in the game (things like NBA FINALS GAME 2 that occupy like 1/6th of the screen). Madden is no different, but it suffers the most between plays. I've always wondered why EA chooses to go with such LARGE font and play-call screens when they would benefit so much from a minimalist menu.
    Just look at the difference between a CPU-CPU game and a USER game. There's so much presentation and pretty graphics lost with the huge play call screens.
    kehlis
    Maybe, but out of respect for the site I would ask that people don't follow this advice. Steve was given a very generous amount of codes.
    I get that you want info, but I would ask that you stop promoting people to violate the NDA.
    It's a straight up disrespect to this site. Thanks....

    I’m actually just joking around but I will stop going forward. Seriously though it was just joking. I don’t feel it’s that crucial to get inside info given that the game releases in a month and then we will all have access to first hand reviews from people with the product we will actually buy.
    khaliib
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?
    To me, it still feels like there’s a disconnect with the fans inside these beautiful rendered stadiums.
    I’d rather see more fan base reactions during gameplay vs player/coach shots.
    There seems to be no connection between the gamer and fan base whether positive or negative, at all.
    Just curious of others take on this since it’s dealing with graphics.
    **I’m talking more of what’s already in the game vs a wishlist component being added.

    Me personally? Remove every shot that isn’t seen on Sunday and replace them with shots that are.
    This include the “bling yolo” on field intros. I skip them every time, and apparently they are sill in. *vomits*
    khaliib
    Here’s a graphics/presentation question I want to pose to the OS community.
    Would you rather have more shots of the crowd/fans during cut scenes as opposed to the plethora of up close player/coach shots?
    To me, it still feels like there’s a disconnect with the fans inside these beautiful rendered stadiums.
    I’d rather see more fan base reactions during gameplay vs player/coach shots.
    There seems to be no connection between the gamer and fan base whether positive or negative, at all.
    Just curious of others take on this since it’s dealing with graphics.
    **I’m talking more of what’s already in the game vs a wishlist component being added.

    Never been a fan of cuts to the fans because of how bad they are usually rendered. Zoomed out shots or clever shots were they look good would be nice, but every sports game’s fan gfx are just so bad that I’d prefer the player shots.
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    TexasFan2005
    Good question. I'd rather have a mix of everything, but for it to feel organic and less scripted. This is going off of previous Madden titles, but it's always a matter of time before you see all presentation elements the game has to offer in terms of camera angles and cut scenes, and more often than not, you'll get to see all of them within a short period. Once you can guess with absolute certainty which cut scene they'll show or what exactly triggers a replay (and from what angle), then things become incredibly stale for me.
    One thing that can certainly help is making the play call screen much smaller, or just have it occupy the bottom/side portion of the screen so they can show off more of the graphics. I read an article recently that was very critical of modern sports broadcasts and how some of them (ESPN, CBS) use more real estate than necessary on the screen for their score bugs; so much so that it detracts from the action that's going on in the game (things like NBA FINALS GAME 2 that occupy like 1/6th of the screen). Madden is no different, but it suffers the most between plays. I've always wondered why EA chooses to go with such LARGE font and play-call screens when they would benefit so much from a minimalist menu.
    Just look at the difference between a CPU-CPU game and a USER game. There's so much presentation and pretty graphics lost with the huge play call screens.

    You pose something I’ve never thought of, but hits on something if you think about it.
    Why does the playcall/play selection screen has to be so big and in your face?
    When I see the initial shot of the stadium, and all the work that’s put into, I just wonder why it doesn’t play a larger role dealing with the presentation package?
    I guess I’m just curious to what Madden would look like beyond the whole up close/ in your face aspect of how everything seems to be presented before the gamer.
    khaliib
    You pose something I’ve never thought of, but hits on something if you think about it.
    Why does the playcall/play selection screen has to be so big and in your face?
    When I see the initial shot of the stadium, and all the work that’s put into, I just wonder why it doesn’t play a larger role dealing with the presentation package?
    I guess I’m just curious to what Madden would look like beyond the whole up close/ in your face aspect of how everything seems to be presented before the gamer.
    Madden 08 had a decent way of solving this problem. Basically you had the playcall screen and a box that showed what was going on during the paly with camera cuts. I think they had some stats on there as well.
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    thatmanGriffin
    Does this include kareem hunt as well? I think these two were that wore it on a consistent basis.
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    Derrick Henry has worn it before, not regularly though I dont believe. not to beat a dead horse or anything but I would much prefer mouthpieces be added before arm tape, half the fricken league wears the things it seems.
    thatmanGriffin
    Does this include kareem hunt as well? I think these two were that wore it on a consistent basis.

    It appears KANE's tweet was in response to there being an equipment deep dive -- not whether they are adding turf tape.
    reverend_heat
    Derrick Henry has worn it before, not regularly though I dont believe. not to beat a dead horse or anything but I would much prefer mouthpieces be added before arm tape, half the fricken league wears the things it seems.

    We already know the issue with mouthpieces is that the faces and mouths of players are animated. While i still beg for mouth pieces i think the turf tape is a way easier/more likely addition
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