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Madden 21 Broadcast Cam - A Scorned Camera Awaiting Its Time to Shine

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Madden 21 Broadcast Cam - A Scorned Camera Awaiting Its Time to Shine

Playing from the Madden 21 broadcast cam (known usually as Coach Cam) is simultaneously beautiful and frustrating. It’s jarring and wonderful. It’s annoying and magnificent. But in a grand sense, to me it’s just agonizing. It’s been so close to being so good for so long, and yet it has gone untouched for years now.

Madden is being taken through the wringer right now, and part of that frustration comes from a general stagnation in multiple areas of the game. Legacy issues have remained legacy issues, and certain features that are half-baked have remained under-developed or passed over year after year.

There are some obvious under-developed areas that have received most of the publicity this cycle, but one area that goes overlooked right now relates to the Madden 21 broadcast camera.

It’s an open secret on OS that the broadcast camera in Madden is a special weapon of sorts. It simultaneously totally changes the gameplay and unlocks a level of beauty in Madden that goes overlooked far too often. Madden really does not get talked about as being a “pretty” game in many circles. The nature of the default camera being a “behind the QB” camera does not provide the game ample opportunities to look like a real TV-style broadcast. Its best chances to show off come from pregame, pre-play cutscenes and other moments where you’re not in control of the action.

However, if you rotate the camera into the broadcast view — and remove the HUD elements — I think you could fool some people into thinking Madden 21 looked like the real thing if they just gave it a quick glance.

madden 21 broadcast camera

Now, this is not a unique trait to Madden. NBA 2K, FIFA, MLB The Show, NHL all can look photo-realistic at a glance, but all of those games also have a fully functional “broadcast” camera in a way Madden still has not quite tried to embrace in the same way. That’s a missed opportunity.

NHL putting the broadcast camera into the game was one of the best changes the series has made in recent years. It was in the same position as Madden with the “behind the action” view, and giving folks a broadcast camera gave the audience a chance to take notice and say “okay, wait this game actually does look pretty good” — again, not talking how it even plays, just in terms of graphics.

When MLB The Show put in the realistic stadium cameras for all 30 teams, it changed the perspective on pitching. Hitting is another story, but you can in theory play from that pitcher view when hitting — I know some on OS and beyond do it. FIFA has a broadcast camera, but that’s probably the closest comparison to Madden still where both these games are pretty, but you have to play from so far out that it hampers the appreciation for the player models. (It’s also a reason their trailers are generally exciting yet a bummer at the same time because you don’t play the game from these zoomed-in views.)

Then we have NBA 2K, and basketball games in general, and they go without saying here as broadcast cameras have been standard (along with 2K cam) for the longest time. That being said, NBA 2K is also the best example of the gameplay differences that come out when you switch between 2K cam and the broadcast camera.

You See The Game Differently

Madden 21 TV camera

Speaking of NBA 2K, long-time fans know there’s a clear difference between how people play on broadcast versus the 2K cam. 2K cam players throw way more long outlet passes and see more passing lanes than broadcast players. Broadcast players tend to understand the spacing on the interior a bit more and utilize the baseline more. It’s a perspective switch doing its job (horizontal vs. vertical), and the same holds true in Madden. When playing behind the QB, the field looks narrow at times. You see different run lanes, and you just fall into patterns that you’ve become accustomed to through muscle memory.

But then you switch to broadcast view and new avenues open up. You start using the “high” side of the field more than the low side because you can see the top of the screen better than the bottom part of your screen. It now feels like things are more open sideline to sideline. The field just looks wider and bigger. Admittedly, I generally only like the broadcast cam on running plays most of the time, but it absolutely changes everything about how you play, again, due to perspective.

On top of that, the game is just way more visually appealing. Cam Fam on the forums explains why he likes the Madden 21 broadcast cam:

It’s a beautiful challenge of mastering routes and timing while also mastering pre-snap reads. In certain coverages, the safeties are closer to the line of scrimmage — tipping off the type of coverage. In conjunction, you also have to pre-read whether the corners are pressing. It’s a very real-life strategy played out in the game. In addition to all this, if I notice press coverage, it alerts me to begin to shift WRs or even RBs in motion (to see if my thinking is correct and to ultimately create an unbalanced alignment to my advantage). That’s the cat and mouse beauty of playing with this camera. That’s why it will always be my choice of view.

The Madden 21 Broadcast Camera Workaround

The problem with the “default” broadcast camera in Madden 21 is that, again, it’s not ideal for passing plays. However, another person on the forums by the handle Ram209 has been working with the broadcast camera to make it more functional for years. The issue with the default broadcast camera is you just don’t see enough of the field. It’s still more daunting on passing plays even with this workaround, but there is a way to mostly make it work. Ram209 posted a video in the recent thread detailing the workaround that goes back to Madden 18:

Cam Fan comes back to explain the general way to do this if you don’t want to watch the video:

What you do is, once you call your play, you cycle and click LS twice for player lock (generally a WR). Then before you snap the ball click LS twice again to unlock and the cam zooms out. As it begins to slowly zoom back in, let it zoom in enough for your liking while still being able to see the entire field and then snap the ball.

OS slider guru Mike Lowe shows off how it looks on defense here as he makes a pick:

There are no doubt some issues with this workaround. It’s 100 percent annoying to have to do the player lock thing every time. The camera can get touchy and not work if you get pre-play cutscenes that activate before you player lock. Even at its most zoomed out, the camera still can not do its job if players run far enough up the field on deep pass plays. In short, it’s usable but not to a degree where everyone is going to be sold on it. The development team would need to alter the camera so it either tries to keep everyone on the field on camera at all times, or it would need to find new objects to lock onto in order to rotate as needed depending on if it’s a pass play, run play or special teams.

Of course, we also have a modding scene out there on the PC now.

The Modding Scene

On some level this goes beyond just discussing a broadcast camera. In general, I’m championing custom cameras and new ways to play Madden.

With the PC modding last year, I played a lot with a custom “Zoom” camera and there were some other interesting camera mods out there. The PC community generally understands that these cameras all have “event” stages to them. There’s transition events, pre-play events. etc. so you need to mod multiple cameras to get what you want, but it also provides multiple chances to change the camera depending on the state of the play — something that is unique to Madden and football games due to their stop/start nature.

All videos below come from TheBleedingRed21 — the person who detailed how to use the camera mod tool in Madden on OS.

This is a “Wide” base with “Zoom” pre-play and “Zoom” post-play:

Here is “Zoom” base with “Broadcast” FG in flight (To avoid further confusion, Madden calls the “Coach Cam” what we would call a normal TV broadcast camera, so “Broadcast” here does not mean TV-style. I have been calling the “Coach Cam” a broadcast camera throughout this article because it’s just easier to understand, but just realize the naming conventions are different in-game.):

Here is a look at a camera that starts in a TV-broadcast style, flips to All-22 for the start of the play, then flips back to broadcast when the ball is in flight:

There’s a nice variety of options here, and really what people want is a custom camera option. PC modding is helpful enough, but this could be a much more helpful user tool, and it’s one of the various areas where Madden has sort of fallen behind the times in terms of providing versatility to its game. NBA 2K and The Show do great work here providing many more camera options — and ways to customize them — and while Madden is trickier due to their camera changing based on pre-play, during play and post-play, The Show has figured out how to provide more options when hitting, pitching and fielding, which is the closest comparison.

Moving Forward

I don’t have any grand ideas about the broadcast camera being a paradigm shift for everyone. Folks are going to want to play from the view they’re used to or the one that gives them the best chance to succeed. After all, the 2K cam has a large amount of support because many folks think it gives them a competitive advantage. On top of that, the 2K cam has also continued to thrive simply because it was the default option way back when. (Even today, you’ll still see people creep out of the shadows to remind you you’re not a “true” 2K player if you don’t play from 2K cam.) The Madden broadcast camera has a steep hill to climb in those ways.

However, there is no doubt custom cameras should exist by now in Madden. There’s also an argument to be made that EA should try to push people towards playing from a broadcast camera by default. These companies talk so much about how to engage and bring in more people to a game and not scare them off. I would argue new users who come in and play Madden for the first time will see a game that does not look like what they see on TV. If users get by the grueling tasks of figuring out how to call plays and the base-level controls, they’re still then going to be in this foreign camera view.

Madden 21 all-22

I don’t know about you, but I strongly dislike when games on TV use a “Madden” sort of camera during plays. I have no actual insight into how TV broadcasts work, but there’s probably a reason the “Madden” view is sparingly used during broadcasts. In that same way, the All-22 camera is certainly great as an analysis tool, but it’s not a casual viewer’s preferred way to watch full games live.

So what if EA had inserted a prompt this year that just said “would you like to try out the new and improved Madden 21 broadcast camera?” Or what if the “first game” experience you were dropped into just showed the game off from that broadcast camera. Would some people stick with it from there? Would the user rate with that camera creep up?

Lastly, if the focus on franchise mode and more types of gamers is going to be a talking point once more for EA, a broadcast camera is simply something logical to look at improving. There’s no question that some invested in a franchise mode are invested in it based on the dynamic of being lost in a virtual NFL they care as deeply about as the one they read about and watch every week on TV. So if love and care is going to go into franchise mode itself, then the same love and care should go into presenting the game the way it shows up on TV every Sunday.

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  1. Tar Heel I’ve been asking for this for years.
    It’s how you read (horizontal plane) and how you watch the game being played on TV.
    So much of the games hiccups are hidden when playing from this view.
    I just don’t understand why there’s a reluctance to provide this view or improve the current Broadcast View.
    I did it for PC with zoom in on running plays and zoom out on passing plays.
    TarHeelPhenom
    Has anybody tried playing User vs. CPU on Broadcast Cam...at least for running plays? Playing this way really feels good and more natural to me for some reason. Of course it's not really a viable option on passing downs. I wonder what EA could do in order to make it playable completely? Like after the snap maybe have the camera pan out to a blimp level? They need to make this happen for real.

    The only problem with broadcast cam, which I totally would love by the way, is that in Football players get too far downfield to play like this. And zooming out to a wider view is just messy and wouldn't show you the offensive line clearly enough. I love it but it's impractical in football. Every other sport it works great.
    TarHeelPhenom
    Has anybody tried playing User vs. CPU on Broadcast Cam...at least for running plays? Playing this way really feels good and more natural to me for some reason. Of course it's not really a viable option on passing downs. I wonder what EA could do in order to make it playable completely? Like after the snap maybe have the camera pan out to a blimp level? They need to make this happen for real.

    That is all I play on. It’s very playable on passing downs, as long as you know your routes, and read the safeties and backers at the snap. I rarely go default camera. I wish they would let us set our own angles though. The replay camera that they play is PERFECT! But typical Madden fashion, they won’t do that.
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    I love the broad cast camera . I just learn the tours and the timing . If they are out of picture , I time it and let it rip. Sometimes you get some nice animations this way. I try to play on pro.
    khaliib
    Tar Heel I’ve been asking for this for years.
    It’s how you read (horizontal plane) and how you watch the game being played on TV.
    So much of the games hiccups are hidden when playing from this view.
    I just don’t understand why there’s a reluctance to provide this view or improve the current Broadcast View.
    I did it for PC with zoom in on running plays and zoom out on passing plays.

    That's perfect right there. I wish they would!
    Brooke2011
    I love the broad cast camera . I just learn the tours and the timing . If they are out of picture , I time it and let it rip. Sometimes you get some nice animations this way. I try to play on pro.

    I find it easier to follow my lead blockers on run plays and it eliminates the eye in the sky advantage. I'll use it for passing downs inside the 15; but have found it difficult otherwise due to not being able to see my receivers. I may just keep playing on it every down. I've been using it on pro too.
    khaliib
    Tar Heel I’ve been asking for this for years.
    It’s how you read (horizontal plane) and how you watch the game being played on TV.
    So much of the games hiccups are hidden when playing from this view.
    I just don’t understand why there’s a reluctance to provide this view or improve the current Broadcast View.
    I did it for PC with zoom in on running plays and zoom out on passing plays.
    Holy crap, didn't even occur to me that on PC we can just add a camera mod. Does it work well?
    JasonZimmerman
    That is all I play on. It’s very playable on passing downs, as long as you know your routes, and read the safeties and backers at the snap. I rarely go default camera. I wish they would let us set our own angles though. The replay camera that they play is PERFECT! But typical Madden fashion, they won’t do that.
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    This.i cant play any other way now. You can get a pretty good idea who will be open by reading if its press coverage, man or zone and when you snap the ball the first steps of the linebackers. Like you said know the routes.
    My favourite is letting it fly when the corner is pressing with no safety help over the top but that is extremely rare.
    tinpanalley
    Does anyone know what the mod is for PC that permits setting the camera at a specific difference?

    It was for last years madden. But it was in the forum with pc released mods here on OS.
    CujoMatty
    This.i cant play any other way now. You can get a pretty good idea who will be open by reading if its press coverage, man or zone and when you snap the ball the first steps of the linebackers. Like you said know the routes.
    My favourite is letting it fly when the corner is pressing with no safety help over the top but that is extremely rare.

    Yes! I love that too!
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    TarHeelPhenom
    Has anybody tried playing User vs. CPU on Broadcast Cam...at least for running plays? Playing this way really feels good and more natural to me for some reason. Of course it's not really a viable option on passing downs. I wonder what EA could do in order to make it playable completely? Like after the snap maybe have the camera pan out to a blimp level? They need to make this happen for real.

    Another thing you can do as well is turn on coach cam, and allow the AI to pass the ball. I don’t usually have it on, but something to try.
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    All I play on is broadcast cam since Madden 12 but man that PC cam mod looks amazing. Hell I wanted Madden to just copy and past the Fifa broadcast cam for the longest but once you understand the timing of routes and just knowing the match ups the passing game is very nice on broadcast cam. But it does give Madden a nice little difficulty that the regular behind the Qb camera doesn't in my opinion.
    cthurt
    Nice find but does it work for the current Madden since the walk-up to the line of.scrimmage animation was taken out the game.
    Yes it does, all you do is once you are out of the huddle switch off the QB, then do player lock and you will see the screen kind of zoom back. Once it does that release the player lock and it will be the zoomed out view...Couple of things obviously you have to be in broadcast view and it does not work when you are on defense
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    Ram209
    Yes it does, all you do is once you are out of the huddle switch off the QB, then do player lock and you will see the screen kind of zoom back. Once it does that release the player lock and it will be the zoomed out view...Couple of things obviously you have to be in broadcast view and it does not work when you are on defense
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    Nice definitely going to try it out.
    Ram209
    Yes it does, all you do is once you are out of the huddle switch off the QB, then do player lock and you will see the screen kind of zoom back. Once it does that release the player lock and it will be the zoomed out view...Couple of things obviously you have to be in broadcast view and it does not work when you are on defense
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    Going to def try this tonight. I don't care about the cam not zooming on defense because I control a DL with no switch. Great find man.
    Ram209
    Yes it does, all you do is once you are out of the huddle switch off the QB, then do player lock and you will see the screen kind of zoom back. Once it does that release the player lock and it will be the zoomed out view...Couple of things obviously you have to be in broadcast view and it does not work when you are on defense
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    Just tried it. It works and it looks great!
    Ram209
    It changes the game !
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    I just played a full 15 minute game and it was the most fun I've had with Madden in years. The cool thing is you don't even have to rush. You can get to the LOS...make adjustments and then do player lock and unplayer lock and it'll still zoom out. Thanks Ram!
    Anytime!!!! One thing I wish they would add though is custom cams ... hopefully for next gen they can do this.
    TarHeelPhenom
    I just played a full 15 minute game and it was the most fun I've had with Madden in years. The cool thing is you don't even have to rush. You can get to the LOS...make adjustments and then do player lock and unplayer lock and it'll still zoom out. Thanks Ram!

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    Broadcast cam is what I play on almost every sports games. It just brings out the realism and immersion in the game. If you acclimate yourself to it, you'll find you'll love it and won't ever go back.
    Madden 25 I believe had the best Broadcast Cam. It was different. I can't explain it, but if you see gameplay from broadcast cam on Madden 25, you'll notice the difference.
    One thing I like to do for offense is for pass plays, i'll aim for the wide receivers on the top of the screen. If you pass to the bottom, you might get intercepted. I only pass to the bottom receivers if my receivers on top aren't open or I can't scramble.
    For running, i'll run towards bottom of the screen. When i'm lined up on the hashmarks on the bottom, i'll either pass or run it through the middle according to down and how far.
    For defense, i'll play around with the DE on the bottom of the screen for possible run plays (QB under the center). I'll bring in my DBs, crash the LB. For pass plays or shotguns, i'll play either the Safety, DB or MLB closest to the top of the screen.
    There's an entire legion of broadcast camera players out here (trust me it's real). We petitioned Ian Cummings years ago to patch it into Madden 10 and he delivered.
    Like it's been stated, this view hides all of the quirks played from vertical view, and actually allows all of the great animations to show. I honestly love Madden's overall game flow from this angle.
    So I dont understand, how do you guys do it so you can see more of the field on a pass and make an actually intelligent pass? Is there a mod that works for Madden20 that helps set zoom levels for this camera?
    There are some PC mods like the "zoom" cam that create some cool camera angles, and while I commend the peeps playing on the broadcast cam, it really should be better by now. Some mixture of All-22/broadcast cam should exist and change itself around based on the situation and where the ball is/what type of play it is.
    Yeah, it's easy enough to argue you can run from the broadcast cam, passing is not as straight forward -- but it should/could be I think with some testing and prototyping.
    The game is BEAUTIFUL from broadcast, really I genuinely think that, and so much of the beauty is sucked out of the game playing from behind the QB in the standard view. EA is only hurting itself not trying to find a way to make this work better to me.
    ChaseB
    There are some PC mods like the "zoom" cam that create some cool camera angles, and while I commend the peeps playing on the broadcast cam, it really should be better by now. Some mixture of All-22/broadcast cam should exist and change itself around based on the situation and where the ball is/what type of play it is.
    Yeah, it's easy enough to argue you can run from the broadcast cam, passing is not as straight forward -- but it should/could be I think with some testing and prototyping.
    The game is BEAUTIFUL from broadcast, really I genuinely think that, and so much of the beauty is sucked out of the game playing from behind the QB in the standard view. EA is only hurting itself not trying to find a way to make this work better to me.

    It's a beautiful challenge of mastering routes and timing...while also mastering pre-snap reads. In certain coverages the safeties are closer to the line of scrimmage...tipping off the type of coverage. In conjunction, you also have to pre-read whether the corners are pressing. It's a very real life strategy played out in the game. In addition to all this, if I notice press coverage, it alerts me to begin shift WRs OR EVEN RBs in motion (to see if my thinking is correct and to ultimately create an unbalanced alignment to my advantage). That's the cat and mouse beauty of playing with this camera. That's why it will always be my choice of view.
    I've taught this to all my relatives and friends and now we all play from this view. They love the art of trying to master all these components.
    tinpanalley
    So I dont understand, how do you guys do it so you can see more of the field on a pass and make an actually intelligent pass? Is there a mod that works for Madden20 that helps set zoom levels for this camera?

    As stated in this thread, my man Ram found a workaround that works great. What you do is, once you call your play, you cycle and click LS twice for player lock. Then before you snap the ball click LS twice again to unlock and the came zooms out. As it begins to slowly zoom back in, let it soon in enough for your liking while still being able to see the entire field and then snap the ball. The cam will stay zoomed out. I'm not even joking when I say it was the most fun I've had playing the game in years. It's a game changer for me and just feels/looks way more natural IMO.
    Cam Fan
    It's a beautiful challenge of mastering routes and timing...while also mastering pre-snap reads. In certain coverages the safeties are closer to the line of scrimmage...tipping off the type of coverage. In conjunction, you also have to pre-read whether the corners are pressing. It's a very real life strategy played out in the game. In addition to all this, if I notice press coverage, it alerts me to begin shift WRs OR EVEN RBs in motion (to see if my thinking is correct and to ultimately create an unbalanced alignment to my advantage). That's the cat and mouse beauty of playing with this camera. That's why it will always be my choice of view.
    I've taught this to all my relatives and friends and now we all play from this view. They love the art of trying to master all these components.

    Yeah, again, I don't disagree with you, I think it changes the gameplay as well. It just should be easier to pull off so it's friendlier for a broader audience.
    prey2god
    Broadcast cam is what I play on almost every sports games. It just brings out the realism and immersion in the game. If you acclimate yourself to it, you'll find you'll love it and won't ever go back.
    Madden 25 I believe had the best Broadcast Cam. It was different. I can't explain it, but if you see gameplay from broadcast cam on Madden 25, you'll notice the difference.
    One thing I like to do for offense is for pass plays, i'll aim for the wide receivers on the top of the screen. If you pass to the bottom, you might get intercepted. I only pass to the bottom receivers if my receivers on top aren't open or I can't scramble.
    For running, i'll run towards bottom of the screen. When i'm lined up on the hashmarks on the bottom, i'll either pass or run it through the middle according to down and how far.
    For defense, i'll play around with the DE on the bottom of the screen for possible run plays (QB under the center). I'll bring in my DBs, crash the LB. For pass plays or shotguns, i'll play either the Safety, DB or MLB closest to the top of the screen.

    Madden 25 was definitely the best! I still have a copy just to play that view!
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    I remember playing Football on the colecovision with the Sports Action Controller. It was the side view similar to broadcast but not 3D. There was a wheel on the one part of the controller you used for distance. Anytime you went deep you just had to hope your guy was open. Same on the intellivision nfl football game. I remember that being the first game I played you could pass on. Same deal. Half the time you couldn’t see your receivers. Broadcast view always looks great just really hard to throw on.
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    I’ve been playing on broadcast cam and it’s amazing. It makes the game play and look realistic. Looking back I don’t know how I used to play with madden cam as it made the game just look fake and terrible.
    If you want a realistic game play try broadcast cam. I got used to it in 1 game and never looked back.
    We all want a sports game to look and feel realistic and no matter what sports game you play you should always set the camera to broadcast, just like it is on tv.
    Celtic4Life
    I’ve been playing on broadcast cam and it’s amazing. It makes the game play and look realistic. Looking back I don’t know how I used to play with madden cam as it made the game just look fake and terrible.
    If you want a realistic game play try broadcast cam. I got used to it in 1 game and never looked back.
    We all want a sports game to look and feel realistic and no matter what sports game you play you should always set the camera to broadcast, just like it is on tv.

    I've always dislike the behind the player view in all games except baseball where the behind the pitcher view is my favorite. The 2k Cam is most hated for me and I've always just tolerated the Madden Can because I never saw broadcast can as a viable option. But Monday night for some reason I just decided to try it out and now I'm hooked. With Rams workaround, I can't go back.
    Love seeing more and more people talk about how much better the game looks using broadcast cam. It's the only way I've been able to play for a few years now.
    I learned how to get good at it having to pass blind but I always new the camera could be improved. I also accepted the fact that basically very few people played using broadcast cam and that EA didnt have a lot of incentive to improve it.
    The positive feedback it's getting hopefully grabs the attention of the developers and maybe they will work on improving the experience.
    Mike Lowe
    Sometimes I can't get the zoom to happen. That's a challenge when you've selected a pass play.
    Anyone else?

    Ya just switch to the next player and player lock again. I think it doesn't work sometimes if you try it before the team is up to the line and "set"
    Mike Lowe
    Sometimes I can't get the zoom to happen. That's a challenge when you've selected a pass play.
    Anyone else?

    The only time I've seen were it doesn't work like it should is when motion is built into a play. By the time motion has taken place the cam has already zoomed back in. I'm also having to train my mind to make sure to switch to a WR each time before player locking. If you don't switch it wont work either.
    You know it works when you do a player lock and it "zooms out", if you do a player lock and the camera doesn't zoom out it won't work. Unclick the player lock and switch to another player and do it again ....hope that made sense
    Mike Lowe
    Sometimes I can't get the zoom to happen. That's a challenge when you've selected a pass play.
    Anyone else?

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    Ok... finally figured it out and it is...amazing. Only thing is that I have certain sliders in place that don't play right on this view but I can tweak those (any recommendations for realistic looking sliders?)
    Only thing is, some players don't allow the camera to zoom far out enough when double clicking back the second time. Are there certain players to go to for locking? I mean, I select some player that isn't the QB and then do the double click but on the second double click it doesn't start from far enough out. And also is there not ANY way to bring up play art in this view?
    tinpanalley
    Ok... finally figured it out and it is...amazing. Only thing is that I have certain sliders in place that don't play right on this view but I can tweak those (any recommendations for realistic looking sliders?)
    Only thing is, some players don't allow the camera to zoom far out enough when double clicking back the second time. Are there certain players to go to for locking? I mean, I select some player that isn't the QB and then do the double click but on the second double click it doesn't start from far enough out. And also is there not ANY way to bring up play art in this view?

    I think the original person said to go to a WR to make it zoom out far enough. I'm not sure about the play art aspect.
    ChaseB
    I think the original person said to go to a WR to make it zoom out far enough. I'm not sure about the play art aspect.

    Ok cool. It really is awesome though. But weird that the sliders I was using look WAY too fast on broadcast view.
    tinpanalley
    Ok cool. It really is awesome though. But weird that the sliders I was using look WAY too fast on broadcast view.

    Yeah it's interesting to me as well how different the game can feel from broadcast vs. QB view.
    ChaseB
    Yeah it's interesting to me as well how different the game can feel from broadcast vs. QB view.

    Same with NHL actually, what looks and feels perfect on broadcast feels like molasses on 3/4 view. Perhaps something to do with perspective and how much of the ice/field looks like it's being covered at any moment.
    tinpanalley
    Same with NHL actually, what looks and feels perfect on broadcast feels like molasses on 3/4 view. Perhaps something to do with perspective and how much of the ice/field looks like it's being covered at any moment.

    Yeah, don't want to send this too off-topic but it's REALLY noticeable in NHL. You can get the game looking what appears to be a real-life speed in Broadcast and then switching to top down it looks so much slower. It's not - it's the same speed and stopwatch-timing a player from blue line to blue line will confirm that - it's just the perspective that makes it look that way. NBA is probably the same - only baseball and soccer escape this because the playable default cameras are mostly from the same perspective as the real-life ones.
    Speed-matching from real-life footage to the game's broadcast cam and then applying it to top-down is actually really helpful to getting these games to "feel" right. Because the tendency on top-down views is to make the game speed different than what would be considered normal.
    Best thing to do is capture some clips and send/post to Clint/Ben and other devs requesting the Broadcast Cam to be tuned to do similar and/or have it zoomed out and running parallel to the sideline from endzone to endzone.
    Seeing the stadium crowd as it zooms into the action really draws you in.
    The main two Cam Events that need tweaking is the 1) PrePlay 2)QB Pass
    PrePlay because it uses the Coach Cam where when the ball reaches the 35yrd line, it will start to angle the Cam.
    QB Pass because it zooms in to QB transitioning to Ball Carrier Event instead of pan outward to see WR downfield.
    khaliib
    Best thing to do is capture some clips and send/post to Clint/Ben and other devs requesting the Broadcast Cam to be tuned to do similar and/or have it zoomed out and running parallel to the sideline from endzone to endzone.
    Seeing the stadium crowd as it zooms into the action really draws you in.
    The main two Cam Events that need tweaking is the 1) PrePlay 2)QB Pass
    PrePlay because it uses the Coach Cam where when the ball reaches the 35yrd line, it will start to angle the Cam.
    QB Pass because it zooms in to QB transitioning to Ball Carrier Event instead of pan outward to see WR downfield.

    I'm putting up a news story this upcoming week on broadcast cam, just a heads up.
    ChaseB
    I'm putting up a news story this upcoming week on broadcast cam, just a heads up.

    Thx Chase.
    I’ve tried over the past several years to get some of the content creators just to try playing from the angle, esp those that promote Simulation, only to get a big no go.
    The angle hides so many of the warts our eyes are drawn to that playing behind the QB causes.
    We read and write on an horizontal plane, not vertical.
    There’s a reason TV cameras follow the same logic, because it doesn’t cause a disengagement from the action/flow.
    When the NFL tried the behind the QB Wire Cam during a couple of games, I changed the channel because i was trying to process the game from this odd/weird angle, thus not enjoying it.
    Look forward to your write up!!!
    bcruise
    Yeah, don't want to send this too off-topic
    I don't wanna send this too off topic either but I think it does come back to the broadcast cam arena, if you will. What I do, which is gonna sound nuts but it works for me, is that I watch footage in CPU vs CPU and, wait for it, I squint. The graphics are good enough now that it's not hard to imagine you're watching a real game. And squinting helps blur the "gaming" look to what could conceivably be a real broadcast. Particularly if the angle is realistic. And then I keep track of what's wrong: do players turn too easily, is their pivot too quick or too easy, is their acceleration reasonable, is their top speed too robotic, etc. And then I adjust until I see something that, well, 'looks' like real life. Then once that's taken care of I worry about actual player trait sliders. But I find that that's where one has to really know the sport well because you need to know what kind of range, accuracy etc athletes have.
    This also highlights really quickly and evidently when a game isn't engineered well. Because no matter what you do, it just doesn't fit. Anyway, this is just a tiny trick, use it if it helps to get this broadcast cam to look good. Because right now, when I hike the ball, the players all go 1920s 16fps footage on me.
    My two cents. Consequently this is the kind of thing I was hoping to write when I took the gig to write short pieces for OS months ago which I didn't have time for because of a job I'm now never going to be going back to. Covid, as always, the great leveller of life.
    tinpanalley
    I don't wanna send this too off topic either but I think it does come back to the broadcast cam arena, if you will. What I do, which is gonna sound nuts but it works for me, is that I watch footage in CPU vs CPU and, wait for it, I squint. The graphics are good enough now that it's not hard to imagine you're watching a real game. And squinting helps blur the "gaming" look to what could conceivably be a real broadcast. Particularly if the angle is realistic. And then I keep track of what's wrong: do players turn too easily, is their pivot too quick or too easy, is their acceleration reasonable, is their top speed too robotic, etc. And then I adjust until I see something that, well, 'looks' like real life. Then once that's taken care of I worry about actual player trait sliders. But I find that that's where one has to really know the sport well because you need to know what kind of range, accuracy etc athletes have.
    This also highlights really quickly and evidently when a game isn't engineered well. Because no matter what you do, it just doesn't fit. Anyway, this is just a tiny trick, use it if it helps to get this broadcast cam to look good. Because right now, when I hike the ball, the players all go 1920s 16fps footage on me.
    My two cents. Consequently this is the kind of thing I was hoping to write when I took the gig to write short pieces for OS months ago which I didn't have time for because of a job I'm now never going to be going back to. Covid, as always, the great leveller of life.

    Are you saying you get frame drops in Madden or NHL when in the broadcast cam right now?
    One thing I noticed with Madden broadcast cam is just the field feels so much wider so it feels like I can run more sorts of plays vs. QB cam.
    It's just a beautiful thing... especially in the passing game...being able to see routes progress all over the field...throw the high pass over zone defenders. Being able to see the WR beat their man off the press. I'm glad Chase is going to give it some shine and hopefully the devs take it to heart and make it a viable option. If nothing else give us a custom cam that we can adjust similar to 2k.
    ChaseB
    Are you saying you get frame drops in Madden or NHL when in the broadcast cam right now?
    One thing I noticed with Madden broadcast cam is just the field feels so much wider so it feels like I can run more sorts of plays vs. QB cam.

    What I mean is that old 1920s sports footage was usually shot at about 12-16 fps. So played back at the industry standard 24fps, it's why footage from the early 20th Century has the sped up look. I meant it feels like that.
    The field feels more wide or open because on the 3/4 view, they've created a bit of a long lens feel where foreground and background are compressed so despite the fact that the field never changes size, it feels like you have less space to move around. That combined with the 3/4 angle distorting the perspective of how much space there actually is accounts for the wider open feel of the broadcast angle which is truer to life or to what our eyes see. This is the reason the Field Goal camera has always annoyed me. It does the obvious job of showing whether a ball is sliced or hooked but doesn't in any way successfully demonstrate distance or velocity of the ball.
    That's what I want is the custom cam!!!! It's been over 15 years since we have been able to adjust the camera!
    TarHeelPhenom
    It's just a beautiful thing... especially in the passing game...being able to see routes progress all over the field...throw the high pass over zone defenders. Being able to see the WR beat their man off the press. I'm glad Chase is going to give it some shine and hopefully the devs take it to heart and make it a viable option. If nothing else give us a custom cam that we can adjust similar to 2k.

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    ChaseB
    I'm putting up a news story this upcoming week on broadcast cam, just a heads up.

    Yes!!!!!!! Thank you so much. Interested to see how it turns out. Will be posted on the OS homepage?
    TarHeelPhenom
    As stated in this thread, my man Ram found a workaround that works great. What you do is, once you call your play, you cycle and click LS twice for player lock. Then before you snap the ball click LS twice again to unlock and the came zooms out. As it begins to slowly zoom back in, let it soon in enough for your liking while still being able to see the entire field and then snap the ball. The cam will stay zoomed out. I'm not even joking when I say it was the most fun I've had playing the game in years. It's a game changer for me and just feels/looks way more natural IMO.

    Awesome. Gameplay much smoother too. Thx!!
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    CujoMatty
    I don't want to be a jerk but I am pretty sure that wide angle work a round was a thing last year as well. Or did you figure that out last year Ram?

    Based on the video he showed it may have been 2019 because the game still had the walk to the LOS.
    CujoMatty
    I don't want to be a jerk but I am pretty sure that wide angle work a round was a thing last year as well. Or did you figure that out last year Ram?
    I accidentally discovered it playing Madden 18. It was pure luck, don't ask me how I stumbled upon it. But it works for all the Madden's that have player lock
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    Ram209
    I accidentally discovered it playing Madden 18. It was pure luck, don't ask me how I stumbled upon it. But it works for all the Madden's that have player lock
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    I knew I heard about it before this year I just couldn't remember who or when it was. It really is a terrific find. Good Job.
    CujoMatty
    I don't want to be a jerk but I am pretty sure that wide angle work a round was a thing last year as well. Or did you figure that out last year Ram?

    It has been in the game for a while the youtube video he posted in this thread I believe was from madden 19.
    edaddy
    Lol got a question is this the same Tarheel from back in the day that created a broadcast cam thread?

    Hey man, Ive been around these parts for about 18 years now lol; so it very well could have been me lol. I don't remember though lol.
    Armor and Sword
    I really have to give this a go. I love the view. It is a totally different experience.
    It is. Just really tough to know who is where of you don't know the plays perfectly because you can never double check play art
    tinpanalley
    It is. Just really tough to know who is where of you don't know the plays perfectly because you can never double check play art

    You can always switch views to check the play art and then switch back before you zoom out if you like. That's what I do.
    TarHeelPhenom
    You can always switch views to check the play art and then switch back before you zoom out if you like. That's what I do.
    If you have those kinds of reflexes, yeah
    tinpanalley
    If you have those kinds of reflexes, yeah

    lol na man you don't have to rush. It can be done at any time. If you are already in Broadcast mode, once you get to the LOS switch to the behind the cam and check the play art. Then switch back to broadcast and zoom out. Of course if you use accelerated clock like I do then it all has to be done in 15 seconds lol.
    You could check it in broadcast mode while it's zooming back in but you have only seconds to do it. Makes it kind of rough. I check it before I start my switch
    tinpanalley
    It is. Just really tough to know who is where of you don't know the plays perfectly because you can never double check play art

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    I will never understand why they don't just use the broadcast can for highlights. In-game and halftime, instead of the fake nausea inducing highlights we have now.
    Steve_OS
    Cool, what is that work around?

    When you are at the line of scrimmage switch players from your QB then player lock by double clicking the left stick. The game will change from broadcast cam to zoom on the player you player locked. Then switch off player lock by double clicking the left stick again. When the game goes back to broadcast cam it gives you a nice slow view of the field in broadcast view that is zoomed out enough to see receivers down field.
    Steve_OS
    Cool, what is that work around?

    What it is is a transitioning between Cameras and Play Events.
    It’s actually the Coach Cam listed under Broadcast View.
    Every Cam View has a TransIn/TransOut Event.
    What’s happening is you have 2 different Cam Views changing/transitioning during the PrePlay Event.
    - Coach_1
    - WR_Player_Lock
    The TransIn always zooms back in to the initial PrePlay Cam View (ie Coach_1) on a .5 timer (zoom speed)
    For 2019 PC I used the OnsideKick_InAir Cam during PrePlay Event for this
    TarHeelPhenom
    You can always switch views to check the play art and then switch back before you zoom out if you like. That's what I do.

    Holding L2 button plus right stick up will show play art.
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    tinpanalley
    But not in broadcast cam which is what we're talking about.

    Yes. I’m playing it now. Just figured it out. Works on D too.
    *Make sure you hold L2 while moving right stick. Sometimes takes a sec to pick it up.
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    Godeep24
    Yes. I’m playing it now. Just figured it out. Works on D too.
    *Make sure you hold L2 while moving right stick. Sometimes takes a sec to pick it up.
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    Ok, wow, just did it. That definitely helps.
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    Godeep24
    Yes. I’m playing it now. Just figured it out. Works on D too.
    *Make sure you hold L2 while moving right stick. Sometimes takes a sec to pick it up.
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    I also can confirm this works. Just keeps getting better.
    Running the football has never felt so good; and now that I have the hang of it, passing is fun too in Broadcast Cam. One thing that it has forced me to do though is add more time to my Accelerated clock to combat when the zoom doesn't work right away. I started out at :15 seconds on Accelerated clock and now I'm at :18. Those 3 seconds are crucial to me. But there is no way I can go back to playing Madden with the behind the QB after playing on Broadcast. It's truly beautiful.
    Shogunreaper
    watching is one thing playing on it makes no sense to me though.
    unless you are trying to give yourself more of a challenge.

    I actually find it easier to play offence this way. Ball really zips out of QBs hands and such a different feel on deep routes.
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    gonna try my hand at this tonite. Always loved broadcast look of games..
    My biggest problem right now is the reduction of customization regarding visual feedback. Sure it looks much prettier in broadcast, but why can't I remove these pass rush move and block shedding pop ups? They drive me nuts. I understand they are part of the rush move feature but It seems very unnecessary if you do not want it up.
    Same goes for the QB feedback on the bottom of the screen. That was the one thing that began last year that limited our ability to remove everything on the screen via the visual feedback option menu. I prefer to have everything gone except the scoreboard... madden no longer gives us that option
    lfg1212
    gonna try my hand at this tonite. Always loved broadcast look of games..
    My biggest problem right now is the reduction of customization regarding visual feedback. Sure it looks much prettier in broadcast, but why can't I remove these pass rush move and block shedding pop ups? They drive me nuts. I understand they are part of the rush move feature but It seems very unnecessary if you do not want it up.
    Same goes for the QB feedback on the bottom of the screen. That was the one thing that began last year that limited our ability to remove everything on the screen via the visual feedback option menu. I prefer to have everything gone except the scoreboard... madden no longer gives us that option

    I thought you could remove all visual aids on menu? Honestly haven’t looked but I think it’s there.
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    Godeep24
    I thought you could remove all visual aids on menu? Honestly haven’t looked but I think it’s there.

    Nope. Pass rush move pop ups do not turn off and the QB feedback at the bottom of the screen doesn’t either. It’s so annoying. I’ve tweeted them endlessly about it but never get responses.
    ChaseB
    Front-page article is now live, first post in this thread re-directs to it, and the article itself links to this thread now.
    Appreciate all the hard work by y'all on this one.

    Thank you Chase for your attention to our cause. So many of us have championed this feature for over a decade. Former Madden producer Ian Cummings once PATCHED the broadcast cam into M10. He also went on to say that our original thread requesting the patch was "the greatest OS thread ever".
    For those looking for a unique and new Madden experience, I dare you to try this camera.
    great article.
    like the author/writer of this article I use the broadcast for run plays.. then I switch to wide view/all 22 for pass plays.
    That work around where you press the stick twice to widen the view also triggers some sort of interception bug. Ive thrown 5/6 pics in a row using this work around.
    EA just needs to back the line of scrimmage more to teh far left or far right pending which direction the offense is going. EA wastes too much real estate with teh current broadcast camera.
    Another thing the could do is with broadcast cam is zoom out after the ball is in play . the deeper the pass play the more the camera zooms out. like TEcmo
    or EA could just bring back the old school madden feature where you'd have little pop up screens of the receivers as they run their routes. (would get annoying though)
    What a magnificent article Chase...the detail is top notch. You've managed to capture the ENTIRE essence of what we've been crusading for. Thank you for quoting me as well...I've extremely honored.
    The thing the could do is with broadcast cam is zoom out after the ball is in play . the deeper the pass play the more the camera zooms out. like TEcmo
    or EA could just bring back the old school madden feature where you'd have little pop up screens of the receivers as they run their routes. (would get annoying though)
    Bring back the passing windows! They could even make them dynamic depending upon how open the receiver is
    It's like bizarro world here. If you mention broadcast cam on 2k forums it turns into a big debate lol Is there a new broadcast cam mod for Madden 21 PC?
    Great article. Along with sliders, camera angle is the biggest factor in trying to recreate a sim experience within the limitations of the game engine, that goes for any sports game. Perfect example is FIFA, which becomes a completely different game altogether on Pro cam.
    My preferred camera in Madden Human vs CPU has been Zoom cam (Passing Cam ON). Unlike Madden, Classic, All-22, etc. where games turn into big-play fests full of 80 yard TDs, the games on Zoom cam have a real "10 yard fight" feel to them where you're building drives and scrapping for every yard. That said, all the Madden games (at least since Frostbite) animate so poorly and look so ugly with the behind QB cam, Zoom or otherwise.
    I've never even given a second thought to Broadcast cam in Madden, but I'm gonna give it a try. Once again, great article!
    GREAT article....not sure why i never gave this much thought. really got more into 2K once they changed their default camera to broadcast view. not sure why madden never made the switch. heck, even tecmo super bowl made this work beautifully. i'll give it a try and see what happens. this view also came to my mind back in NFL 2K5 because of their wonderful halftime highlights would be shown in this broadcast view and it's much more realistic. 
    "However, there is no doubt custom cameras should exist by now in Madden."*

    Well there was a time when the custom camera did exist.* Suspended memory is what is holding this game back.
    "?These companies talk so much about how to engage and bring in more people to a game and not scare them off. I would argue new users who come in and play Madden for the first time will see a game that does not look like what they see on TV.*"
    Why must the primary efforts be focused on the new user and mollifying their experience? This is ridiculous.
    Great article. I completely agree with tv screen's now rectangular vs square that Broadcast view should be the way to go. Where the solution is with the old Tecmo Super Bowl games. Essentially it's Broadcast view, however, tilted.
    They would also have avoid any zoom in feature which would minimize the field. Players still look too small even with modifications people have made to Madden camera angles.
    Just take a look at the old Tecmo Super Bowl games on YouTube and imagine that camera angle on Madden. The only modification that would have to be made are the downfield blindspots when throwing the ball deep. Again since the tv screens are now rectangular this shouldn't be a difficult issue to fix.
    why is madden's cam SO zoomed out? comapred to 2k football which isn't so far - to me that's one of the bigger issues - Idk why, maybe the FOV is wider in 2k? I hate seeing 1/2 screen as backfield.
    broadcast looks way better
    exactly, hamburgerpimp97.......the TVs now are widescreen, USE IT!!!! if they can let you customize the broadcast view, it would be great.  i tried all the cameras. all-22 is nice, but a little too far away for me. but it works. would work  better if i could customize it. broadcast didn't work for me since i couldn't see down the field for passing and defending pass plays. BUT if you could have somehow all-22 combined with broadcast view, it would be perfect.?
    here's a suggestion EA, include a tecmo super bowl mode, where it has an old-school graphics option AND up-to-date graphics option (sort of like MLB the show did). fans would eat it up. the yard is no NFL street, that's for sure. just another cash grab for microtransactions and NFL blitz (even though loads of fun) won't be touched by the NFL anymore due to the violence.
    Great article Chase! Love it! Now if we can get EA to at the very least add this as a camera option and hopefully give us custom cam!
    ChaseB
    Front-page article is now live, first post in this thread re-directs to it, and the article itself links to this thread now.
    Appreciate all the hard work by y'all on this one.

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    Brooke2011
    I love the broad cast camera . I just learn the tours and the timing . If they are out of picture , I time it and let it rip. Sometimes you get some nice animations this way. I try to play on pro.

    I do too I tried to find some sliders on pro that make sense anyone got ideas
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    Madden has always looked fantastic from broadcast view.
    But this article is dead on....it's so annoying trying to pass from it. So I end up having to go away from what's probably the game's main enhancer.
    Mike Lowe
    If anyone's curious to see this view in action long-term, I'm doing an entire streaming series as the Lions. Week 1 1st half was rough.
    Week 2 is processing on YouTube now and should be up soon.
    https://www.youtube.com/c/MikeLowe47

    With this work-around no Madden gamer should ever play with a vertical camera again.
    CujoMatty
    Ya just switch to the next player and player lock again. I think it doesn't work sometimes if you try it before the team is up to the line and "set"

    can you do thaT WORKAROUND IN MADDEN 21? I AM ON PC
    The funny thing is that the TV networks talk about possibly going to a "Madden" camera in the future. Remember the fog game in New England a couple years back? Nevertheless, I think this is a great idea and one I'm going to have to try out sometime.
    Pretty sure this just made my morning. I love the broadcast cam and since I've picked Madden 15 back up, might good addition to my franchise. I'm 'gonna try the workaround when I get back into the lab. 
    BriansWorldLive
    Pretty sure this just made my morning. I love the broadcast cam and since I've picked Madden 15 back up, might good addition to my franchise. I'm 'gonna try the workaround when I get back into the lab.*

    The work around makes this game so addictive. Next gen will look beyond amazing with this.
    Suddenly having issues with the work around. It doesn't work as frequently anymore.
    I am not sure if it is one of the latest patch updates, or if switching from all-pro to all-madden makes a difference?
    Any thoughts of similar experiences?
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    PTownpipers
    Suddenly having issues with the work around. It doesn't work as frequently anymore.
    I am not sure if it is one of the latest patch updates, or if switching from all-pro to all-madden makes a difference?
    Any thoughts of similar experiences?
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    A couple things I've noticed will cancel it out and thats not allowing it to zoom all the way out before double clicking the right stick,and also checking the play art before you do the workaround check it after you do the work around and it works just fine you just have to check it quickly while it is zooming in. Hope that helps
    cthurt
    A couple things I've noticed will cancel it out and thats not allowing it to zoom all the way out before double clicking the right stick,and also checking the play art before you do the workaround check it after you do the work around and it works just fine you just have to check it quickly while it is zooming in. Hope that helps

    Add hot routes to that as well. You will have to pick a different guy to lock on in order for it to work.
    Some of these more recent suggestions are a bit off...
    The simplest way to explain it is the you can't player lock onto the same guy twice in a row on the same play. You also have to start the lock fairly soon after switching on. But otherwise it can be a WR, TE, or even a RB and it'll work the same.
    I go over it at the very start on this video:
    https://youtu.be/OJhyTmg66o4
    I too have been asking for this for years and it always got some supporters but then died in a sea of higher priority posts. But the Broadcast CAM functions that I am looking for are very similar to the PES/FIFA Camera dashboard that quite simply lets every user customize the tilt, zoom, and perspectives as well so that way it can satisfy everyone's tastes
    I dont know why we simply have never gotten customized CAM abilities in MADDEN, as the NBA, NHL, and Soccer games have had it...forever!
    I will say this about the Broadcast CAM, for me, I truly enjoy Madden in this view (altho wish we had the above customization) because the game takes on a totally more realistic look and feel. And even the control feels different. There just seems to be more fluidity to the gameplay. Maybe it is because you dont see all that rubbery, robotic, & wonky movement between player transitions that you do at the closer views.
    To me, I feel there is a more organic player spacing and separation to routes and angles from this view. I can pull off sweeps and inside runs thru holes, that for some reason, I cant complete from the Madden Cams. Watching and Reacting to the entire field and seeing it unfold from this perspective makes it feel so much more like an NFL game.
    I just wish we had the ability to zoom it back a little further and tilt the field a bit more to see it more like the FIFA/PES fields to get an even more entirety of all the action unfolding.
    Come on EA.....listen to the people
    uggh yes, I cant tell you how much that bothers me on both the Madden 22 and Broadcast Cams. These missing tackling sound fx just doesnt make sense....Its as if the designers are trying unintelligently to intelligently add spatialized sound that is louder the closer you get with the CAMS. but it feels more like glitched and missing sounds. From these angles you should hear all the same sound fx for gameplay enjoyment.
    If the user wants to silence them, they can by just lowering the field fx.....but dont just completely remove them from the Broadcast and All 22 CAMS!
    Here is some gameplay footage from one of my Franchise games. I'm not greta at Madden by any stretch; but just to show off some footage using Broadcast Cam and Rams workaround.
    Mike Lowe
    Some of these more recent suggestions are a bit off...
    The simplest way to explain it is the you can't player lock onto the same guy twice in a row on the same play. You also have to start the lock fairly soon after switching on. But otherwise it can be a WR, TE, or even a RB and it'll work the same.
    I go over it at the very start on this video:
    https://youtu.be/OJhyTmg66o4
    Appreciate the navigation to the video! Can't wait to try this out again after your tips. You made it look so easy to get that view.
    Side note - huge fan of all your work on sliders and maximizing our game experience. Grew up watching Barry too, and a lifetime Detroit fan!
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    I havent bought 21 for the first time in 20 yrs.Broadcast camera is the only way i play this game. I want a custom broadcast camera so bad and its ridiculous that its not included. We got to keep up the pressure for the developers to patch it in.
    Background....I've been playing video game football for over 30 years (yes I'm old..lol) And I've always played the traditional behind the QB mode.
    But tonight. Something happened. I had fun playing Madden!
    You can check my history. I've been so critical of this game for the longest.
    This month, I haven't been this depressed about football gaming since the death of NFL 2k.
    I've bought Backbreaker. I've bought Maximum Football recently. Just to try to find some joy in football gaming.
    I was ready to dump Madden for at least 3 more years. Still might if they don't fix some of the bugs and do something with franchise.
    But tonight. I tried broadcast cam and I raised off up off the couch with amazement. It looks and felt so much better. I've seen the topic bounced around more lately so i thought I'd give it a try, attempting to save Madden 21.
    The passing game looked crisper. The running game was great. The QB drops and animations were prettier. The lighting, the game as a whole just looked beautiful in motion. I didn't notice a lot of eye sour animations or things that lookd wonky. There were still some hiccups, but I mainly saw a beautiful game that reminded me of REAL football for the first time in a long time.
    WHY ISN'T MADDEN DOING MORE WITH THIS VIEW? It makes their game so much more appealing to me now. I've been awaken. This might have just saved Madden in my household.
    Like others said the passing game is difficult due, but it you are passing to the top of the screen or immediate middle, it is so much fun to see now to me.
    If they can adjust the camera some, so you can pass with more consistency, then you might have just made a Madden fan, rather than someone that barely tolerates the game.
    Please for the love of everything football EA....you screw me over so much with this game. It almost makes me more upset that you haven't allowed the camera to be adjustable now....
    Please EA adjust the camera some so we can play it full time without workarounds to pass.
    I think I could love you if you do this.
    Broadcast cam is great. Thank you for the article.
    Enigmatic52
    Background....I've been playing video game football for over 30 years (yes I'm old..lol) And I've always played the traditional behind the QB mode.
    But tonight. Something happened. I had fun playing Madden!
    You can check my history. I've been so critical of this game for the longest.
    This month, I haven't been this depressed about football gaming since the death of NFL 2k.
    I've bought Backbreaker. I've bought Maximum Football recently. Just to try to find some joy in football gaming.
    I was ready to dump Madden for at least 3 more years. Still might if they don't fix some of the bugs and do something with franchise.
    But tonight. I tried broadcast cam and I raised off up off the couch with amazement. It looks and felt so much better. I've seen the topic bounced around more lately so i thought I'd give it a try, attempting to save Madden 21.
    The passing game looked crisper. The running game was great. The QB drops and animations were prettier. The lighting, the game as a whole just looked beautiful in motion. I didn't notice a lot of eye sour animations or things that lookd wonky. There were still some hiccups, but I mainly saw a beautiful game that reminded me of REAL football for the first time in a long time.
    WHY ISN'T MADDEN DOING MORE WITH THIS VIEW? It makes their game so much more appealing to me now. I've been awaken. This might have just saved Madden in my household.
    Like others said the passing game is difficult due, but it you are passing to the top of the screen or immediate middle, it is so much fun to see now to me.
    If they can adjust the camera some, so you can pass with more consistency, then you might have just made a Madden fan, rather than someone that barely tolerates the game.
    Please for the love of everything football EA....you screw me over so much with this game. It almost makes me more upset that you haven't allowed the camera to be adjustable now....
    Please EA adjust the camera some so we can play it full time without workarounds to pass.
    I think I could love you if you do this.
    Broadcast cam is great. Thank you for the article.

    Welcome to the club brother. It's what we've been preaching for a over a decade. P.S. once you use the workaround trick, all your concerns are put to rest.
    Cam Fan
    Welcome to the club brother. It's what we've been preaching for a over a decade. P.S. once you use the workaround trick, all your concerns are put to rest.

    Lol thanks.
    I use the work around when possible.
    I gotta get used to when to exactly snap the ball, because too far way, looks like a blimp mode and not a big fan of that.
    So working on when to time it, to where I can pass downfield and still appreciate the view.
    But yes. A lot more enjoyable.
    All they simply need to do is add a Customizable Broadcast cam like FIFA so everyone can adjust the CAM sliders t o their personal liking...Done deal!
    Oh and they should also fix the missing sound fx from the All 22 and Broadcast cams....its very annoying and unengaging to hear no tackle sound fx when someone gets hit from this view (only big haymaker hits are heard)
    Does anyone know if the developers are going to add a custom broadcast camera? We should tweet the developers to add this. We got ian cummings to add it back in madden 15.
    seanjohnnyc
    Does anyone know if the developers are going to add a custom broadcast camera? We should tweet the developers to add this. We got ian cummings to add it back in madden 15.
    They r more focused on mouth pieces.
    seanjohnnyc
    Does anyone know if the developers are going to add a custom broadcast camera? We should tweet the developers to add this. We got ian cummings to add it back in madden 15.

    With all the options on watching instant replay you’d think it would be an easy add for development team. If had the ability to zoom in and center the cam a bit and get some views that replay has it would be a game changer.
    Came across this thread, read the article (great job to the author btw!) and had to give this a try as I had a few hours to play M21 yesterday (had the day off from work, wife at work, kids at school...glorious day! lol).
    To repeat the sentiments of others in this thread, WOW!! I thoroughly enjoyed playing M21 from this view a lot more than I thought I would! It really does give a different feel to the game. I really wish they would make this more playable! I love the work-around, but it still can be too far zoomed out at times. The view also limits you on extended plays when your QB escapes pressure and you still want to look downfield to make a play...by that time WRs are out of view.
    But other than that, man...what a great view to play the game from...this game in particular where a breath of fresh air was sorely needed to the series for 'classic' franchise mode players like myself. I decided to start my Eagles Franchise in this view and I am having a blast so far. There's still a steep learning curve playing from this view. I got to play 3 games and lost all 3. 2 of the 3 games were really close and came down to the last 2 minutes. There were key moments in each game where the view cost me (either missing a sack completely because my guy would fly right by the qb, or having to use a timeout or taking a delay of game when the work around didn't work correctly at a key moment in the game, or taking a sack in the pocket because of not being able to properly navigate due to players being so small on the zoom out). THIS is what makes me wish EA would make this view more playable! We are so close here lol.
    I feel like I am paying more attention to the game, adjustments, reads, etc. Maybe its because my concentration is higher playing on this view for the first time and really focusing on the plays i call.
    Anyway, great call on this. Glad I found this thread for the work-around. Broadcast is the only way I play NBA 2K, and it may become the only way I play Madden now.
    Godeep24
    One thing I discovered is if you use the slim playbook call up vs the enhanced it seems to zoom out better. Cleaner screen.

    Interesting, I'll scope this out.
    Godeep24
    One thing I discovered is if you use the slim playbook call up vs the enhanced it seems to zoom out better. Cleaner screen.

    what exactly do you mean cleaner screen? Are you able to provide any pics?
    Also, I guess I should ask what exactly are slim playbook call ups lol
    The camera in general looks great, but I can't help but think that game speed in tad bit high when viewing the game from that angle. Could easily just be me as I was always a "slow" speed player back when we had the option.
    Elite Virtual Hockey
    The camera in general looks great, but I can't help but think that game speed in tad bit high when viewing the game from that angle. Could easily just be me as I was always a "slow" speed player back when we had the option.

    I agree with this. I wish we still had that option to turn game speed down. However, even with the game speed being high, animations and just overall feel of the game feels so much smoother. But yea, you're right, would be perfect if we could adjust the game speed.
    K_rob11
    what exactly do you mean cleaner screen? Are you able to provide any pics?
    Also, I guess I should ask what exactly are slim playbook call ups lol

    I may have misspoke. I think what it really did was just move the score banner down a bit. Somehow made my screen look different. Honestly not the find I thought after playing more games.

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